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Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot I

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 3: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Bacon.

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Speaker 4: That is Marty Jertsen. We're here in the tour truck

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Speaker 4: with a guy coming off a real heater. Victor Hoblin

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Speaker 4: is with us coming off a win, and I would

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Speaker 4: say one of the best rounds of golf I've seen

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Speaker 4: in quite some time. Where does it rank in your lifetime?

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Speaker 4: Those last nine holes at the BMW, Yeah, that was.

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Speaker 2: That was pretty special.

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Speaker 1: I think is as far as playing a tournament round

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Speaker 1: got to be the best best round I've ever played,

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Speaker 1: by far, the best nine holes I've ever played. It

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Speaker 1: felt like every shot that I hit was was like

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Speaker 2: So that was that was fun.

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Speaker 3: Victor, how did things build up to like Sunday where

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Speaker 3: swing that kind of culminated. Did you feel awesome on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say I'm a pretty tough critic on myself,

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Speaker 2: I am absolutely playing lights out.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and shoot sixty four, especially over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: So I don't have like one particular shot that stands out.

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Speaker 4: But the draw on eighteen, I mean that has to

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Speaker 4: the whole process of that round, and it went from

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Speaker 4: to oh my god, he's gonna win this thing out right,

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Speaker 4: I mean the way you played seventeen to eighteen. But

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Speaker 2: No, that that was pretty cool when you when you

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Speaker 4: Got that in the middle.

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Speaker 2: That one was not a miss, No, it was not.

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Speaker 1: So I could really just feel like, Okay, I can

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Speaker 4: And you go, you know what, I'll just take the

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Speaker 3: Unlucky on seven should have been sixty have been sixty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was amazing. Now, when you have your iron

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Speaker 2: You're on It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, when you hit a lot of good

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Speaker 4: When you say not being so hard on yourself mentally,

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Speaker 1: Because it gets to a point where I think it's

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Speaker 2: Stack system for example. Nice, but you know that that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a really good lesson because we

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's funny because I mean, this is a very

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Speaker 4: What sports do you want? It's nothing?

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Speaker 4: Do you watch golf?

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Speaker 1: I just listened to podcasts like this one Big Deal?

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Speaker 1: It's embarrassing, but I've probably only read about five books

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Speaker 1: I've never been good in math in school or anything,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I've been impressed by you. Victor

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Speaker 4: I'm I've listened to that album.

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Speaker 2: Now this this band just released a new album.

444
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Speaker 1: I'll listen to that and and then yeah, I wouldn't

445
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish it upon my worst endmy in that car,

446
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun. But now I've just

447
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 1: kind of I still listen to music, but not as

448
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 1: much anymore. Now I've basically just I mean I listened

449
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,239
Speaker 1: to some days. I mean I might listen to three

450
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: or four podcasts a day, just spend like literally six

451
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: hours just keeping in the background and and you know,

452
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 1: do whatever. So I'm just constantly listening and trying to

453
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 1: learn some stuff.

454
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Speaker 4: So you grew up in Norway, you go to college

455
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 4: and Stillwater, Oklahoma. What was that two week stretch like

456
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 4: when you got there for your freshman year, You're like,

457
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 4: this is where I live? Now? What was that?

458
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:10,959
Speaker 3: Like?

459
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 4: How is that kind of a smack in a real

460
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 4: world phase?

461
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it is very different.

462
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think what would really help me was

463
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 1: that I went for a visit about a year and

464
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 1: a half before I started and visited four schools.

465
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State was the last school I visited, and one

466
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: of my high school.

467
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: I shouldn't call it teammates because we didn't have a

468
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: golf team, but we went to the same school in

469
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 1: high school where we had a golf program. Christopher Ventura

470
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: went there, and when I just visited and he explained

471
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 1: his schedule, He's like, yeah, I go to school a

472
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: couple hours and then we're just at the golf course

473
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Speaker 1: all day.

474
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, sign me up. Sweet. So when I committed

475
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 2: and came back there.

476
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Speaker 1: In uh, what year would have been, twenty sixteen, I

477
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: guess it was just it was awesome from the from

478
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 1: the get go because it was very simple. Even though

479
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm from Oslo, the biggest city in Norway, I'm

480
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: a I'm a city boy. But when I come over here,

481
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, moving all the way from Norway to come here,

482
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: and let's say I would have gone to Georgia Tech,

483
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in Atlanta, right middle of Atlanta, a huge city.

484
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: I would have been so lost. So for me, it

485
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: was perfect that I.

486
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Speaker 4: Just the college town made the cost sense to you.

487
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, college town was awesome, and everyone on the golf

488
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: team just had a vision that Okay, we're here to

489
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: play golf and get better and win the national championship.

490
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: And just that environment was was awesome to be in.

491
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Speaker 3: Victor tell us about just like the golf season in Norway,

492
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: where did you play their sports growing up? Was it

493
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: like summertime only golfing? What'd you do in the winter

494
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 3: and what did your childhood of playing golf look like?

495
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I started pretty early.

496
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Speaker 1: My dad worked in Saint Louis for a year, uh

497
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: and just brought a golf set back home. So I

498
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: was about four or five years old when I started playing.

499
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: Uh. But when I was around eleven or twelve. That's

500
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Speaker 2: when I said, okay that I I.

501
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: Kind of want to play golf in indoors in the

502
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: winter because I would just play in the summer and

503
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: then for the you know, last five six months, I

504
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: just wouldn't touch a club. But I also played soccer

505
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: and I did take one no as well, so martial arts,

506
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: and so I kept pretty busy. But when I was

507
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Speaker 1: when I was about twelve or thirteen, I was like, okay,

508
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I want to pursue this golf thing a little bit.

509
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Speaker 4: And you, I mean, you'd get you'd get six months

510
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 4: of golf. Would you get seven months of golf? Like

511
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Speaker 4: how long with the season?

512
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Speaker 1: I'd say seven months. It's very comparable to you know,

513
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 1: someplace in the Northeast or something like, yeah, or in

514
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: Canada or you know, it gets it gets cold. But

515
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: what's what's different is, you know, even though there's snow

516
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: and there's a it's a short season in some places

517
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: in the States as well, at least when the golf

518
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: courses opened they're in pristine shape.

519
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: But that's not the case.

520
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 4: In normal take a couple of months to get it.

521
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Never get there.

522
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 4: You've made a trek back the last couple of years.

523
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 4: I feel like, like around the Open where you've go

524
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 4: on back and played some golf, what is it like

525
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: being a twenty five year old going back to where

526
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: you grew up and you're now this like, you know,

527
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: national superstar. People are wanting to come out and watch

528
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 4: you play as you're out there with buddies and family

529
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Speaker 4: and things like that.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's surreal. It is a little bit wild. Yeah.

531
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Speaker 2: I just remembered a couple of years ago.

532
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Speaker 1: I was just gonna play with a couple of buddies

533
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Speaker 1: of mine and we have this, uh the software online

534
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: that everyone has to register U to put down.

535
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Speaker 2: The tea time. Okay, so my buddy just put it

536
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: all downlands Yeah. Yeah, and then you know the night before.

537
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like this was planned a week in advance,

538
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: so it was just the night before and then we

539
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: show up the next morning and you know, there's a

540
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Speaker 1: couple of hundred people on the first tea.

541
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Speaker 2: What is going on? So, I mean, that's.

542
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: Pretty cool to see what that that a lot of

543
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: people are paying attention and they have gotten into the

544
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: sport because they're watching me play on the on the

545
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: PGA tour.

546
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: It's that's pretty that's pretty cool.

547
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 1: But it is it is a little bit weird as well,

548
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: because sometimes I just want to go out there on

549
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: a Friday night and just play with my buddies, and

550
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: it's it always feels like, you know, it's it's a

551
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: show kind of but it's you know, that's just how

552
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: it is.

553
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: And are we talking like top five most popular people

554
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 4: in Norway right now? Is that fair to say?

555
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna answer it, but we will.

556
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 4: You know what we'll say.

557
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: You'll say, you guys there through the research.

558
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Speaker 3: Victor, I want to I want to ask you a

559
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 3: question about like just improving your game. You know, I've

560
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: heard you have you have the interview you did where

561
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: you talking about kind of compound interest and in making

562
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: those little improvements day after day. How do you evaluate

563
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: you know, from my standpoint, you've done some things like

564
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: you know you're playing great and you switch coaches, or

565
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: you tink with your clubs, you try longer driver we

566
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 3: see with the double pump on the driver back in

567
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: the day.

568
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: Like about that? How so cool?

569
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: How do you evaluate maybe taking a risk, uh, in

570
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: order to get better?

571
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: Right?

572
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 3: Because we've seen a lot of players in the history game,

573
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: make a change like that and maybe not you know, regress.

574
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: You know, so what is your calculus there? How much

575
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: courage does that take? Like what is that process for you?

576
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

577
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I would say some of it is is maybe not

578
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: always calculated. Some of it is just kind of for

579
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: the chaos of it, and then just see.

580
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: You know, what's going to happen is kind of exciting.

581
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.

582
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: Most of the time, I'm not going to try.

583
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Something completely new at the biggest events.

584
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: You know.

585
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: But if I'm playing, you know, just a regular tour

586
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: event and I want to try something, I'm going to

587
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: try it out. Yeah, and it might not work, but

588
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: that's fine if I can learn from it and and

589
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: kind of okay, why did not why did it not work?

590
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: Okay?

591
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, across that all the list

592
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well it didn't work because of this,

593
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: Well what if we change it.

594
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: And try this instead? And you know, so it's it's

595
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: easy to go down rabbit holes that way.

596
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it goes back to the

597
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: question that Joe and I talk a lot about, and

598
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: we like to play poker a lot. So a lot

599
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: of the discussion is in terms of, Okay, where's the

600
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: equity going to come from? Like the way that I

601
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: drove it last week, There's probably not so much tinkering

602
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: that we need to do with the driver, because the

603
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: driver is you know, if I need a game more

604
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: shots off the tee, well I probably need to hit

605
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: it further. That's kind of where my my equity, if

606
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: you will, it's going to come from. So, just on paper,

607
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: short game was where I lost the or that's where

608
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: I had the most room for improvement. So okay, well

609
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: we got to do something in the short game, and

610
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: then that process starts. Okay, what is specifically holding me

611
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: back in the short game? Well, inconsistency in contact. I

612
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: can't predict how the ball is going to come out. Well,

613
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: why can't I predict how it's going to come out? Well,

614
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not controlling the bottom. Why am I

615
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: not controlling the bottom? I'm getting too shallow in the chipping.

616
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I gotta get steeper, get the right spin loft.

617
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: And then it just kind of goes on like that.

618
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: That's kind of like this a scientific process, you know,

619
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: he just asked, asked why at least five times. Yeah,

620
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: you see where alitsa what's the story of how the

621
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: double pump started? Was that something you tried or coach

622
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: or how it was?

623
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: I kind of wish, why don't you? You're playing way

624
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: too good right now, Like the first t at the

625
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: Ryder count just double pumps one, three, seventy.

626
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: Well at the time, I remember, like when I first

627
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: came out, I was in quote marks, I was battling

628
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: this slice you can call it, which was a good

629
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: thing in a way because I could just aim it

630
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: down in the left roof on every single hole because

631
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: I knew it was cutting back, And in one way,

632
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: that's pretty It's it's pretty nice to have that feeling

633
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: of Okay, I could just aim at there, it's never

634
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: going left, you know.

635
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: That's that's a pretty nice feeling. But at the same time,

636
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: it would always.

637
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Be a certain hole where okay, it's a dog leg

638
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: right to left, the fairway slopes left to right, and

639
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: the wind is off the left, So it's like, how

640
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: am I gonna fit this cut into that T shot?

641
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: I just can't and that would bother me a lot.

642
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: So I would kind of constantly try to even out

643
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: the left to right shot off the tee, which now

644
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot straighter, but at the time I didn't

645
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: have that shot. So what I would do is I

646
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: would kind of pause in the back swing to feel

647
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: that I can get my left arm a little deeper,

648
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: because my problem would be if I if I go

649
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: in one, it just hit it really hard and in

650
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: one swing my left arm would get so far out

651
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: and I would have to tilt back so much to

652
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: try to shallow the club out, but it would always

653
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: just produce a little cut, which was great.

654
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: But if I needed a ball to go straighter, I had.

655
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: To kind of get that pause in there to feel

656
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: my left arm coming a little bit more from the inside,

657
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: and at the time it actually gave me a little

658
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: bit more speed. Uh So it was like, okay, if

659
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: you know on the on certain holes, I'll like, okay,

660
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: this is a this is a double pumphole, you know.

661
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: And then yeah.

662
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: I ended up playing I think, uh the pole the

663
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: playoff three years ago. So in twenty twenty, I think

664
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: I played one or two whole events. Literally every single

665
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: drive was a double pump, which wasn't a good thing,

666
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: but I at least made it work that week.

667
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: So Marty.

668
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: This is a you know, you guys have talked about tinkering,

669
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: and I think something that pro golfers floor me by

670
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: all the time is their willingness to tinker.

671
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

672
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you think about like Phil Michelson

673
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: back the day placed two drivers, right, I mean, you know,

674
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: Adam Scott a few years ago at the PGA Championship

675
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: used two putters. The will willingess to use it into

676
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: tournament round is I feel like something that amateur golfers

677
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: aren't willing to do as much. That's okay, I'm making

678
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: I'm missing it here, I'm not making this swing, I'm

679
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: not doing the right thing here. But they don't change

680
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: anything about it. They just keep pushing and keep trying

681
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: to kind of make the same mistake.

682
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

683
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's one of the things I admire aboute Victor

684
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: is just that that that willingness to take that little

685
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: bit of risk.

686
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, and the risk is fun. But at

687
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: the same time, it's like.

688
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: There's there's got to be a reasoning behind the risk

689
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: or or the willingness to change, because I do see

690
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: a lot of I don't think the message would be

691
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: go out there and change stuff every single day. That's

692
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: that's stupid, right, Like, and honestly, I'm I'm surprised when

693
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: I see world class players out here. It's like, oh,

694
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: I putted it back, Give me a different putt, right,

695
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: It's like, what, okay, why did you put it bad?

696
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: Did you? Are you not starting to ball online? Or

697
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: is your being it wrong?

698
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: Right?

699
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

700
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: It's like, I I'm pretty confident with my putter. I

701
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: start the ball online almost every single time. Like, if

702
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: I have a bad putting day, it's not because I'm

703
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: not starting the ball online. And okay, if it's a

704
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: speed issue, well we've got to deal with that. It

705
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: might be just the greens or is the putter not

706
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: allowing me to have good speed control? Well, generally my

707
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: speed is pretty good, So why would I ever try

708
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: a different putter. It just doesn't make any sense, you know,

709
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: either it's my my green reading or like I just

710
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys I put it a bat.

711
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Give me a different putter. Well what if it's a

712
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: completely different makeup, because you know it's going to change

713
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: your stroke and.

714
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Now you don't have any idea how fast, you know,

715
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: how hard you have to hit certain putts. So that's

716
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: that's just changing stuff just to change stuff, and hopefully

717
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: it works out. There needs to at least be a

718
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: good theory and and and prediction of how the change

719
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: is gonna work.

720
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: Victor, I was gonna bring up your putter, because you've

721
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: used the same putter I think since we played and

722
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Open together and what was that in twenty twenty?

723
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: Okay?

724
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: But is that is that?

725
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: Has it been in the back three years longer?

726
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Four years?

727
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, four years, same exact putter, right, And so it's

728
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: DS seventy two. And you have a line in the

729
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: on the flange and on the top and on your

730
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: iping data, which you're on our lead aboard at the

731
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: proving grounds there on our ipin consistency score. You we

732
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: see a lot of folks aim to even the best

733
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: players in the world aim a little bit left, aim

734
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: a little bit right. You were you were perfectly zeroed out.

735
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: Is that something you work on and try to do

736
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: in terms of like your green readom green reading? Do

737
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: do drills to kind of work on your aim and

738
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: things of that nature.

739
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: I think it's just for me. I cannot putt without

740
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: a line on the golf ball. So the line on

741
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: the ball is very important for me. And again, as

742
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned, with the putter, I have that double line

743
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: or dual line, and number one, it helps me with

744
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: li angle when I'm looking down at the at the putter, yep,

745
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 1: because I have it tendency of kind of letting my

746
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: wrists get a little flatter. Uh So that will throw

747
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: the two lines off a little bit. So when I

748
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: can kind of feel like my left wrist goes a

749
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: little bit more older, more straight up, that's when the

750
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: lines are are lined up and it's very easy to

751
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: aim with that setup. And when that left wrist is

752
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: kind of locked in like that, it helps produce good

753
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: starting lines as well. So I think it's just it's

754
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: a good putter for me because it makes me check

755
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: a few boxes to get to where I want to be.

756
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I want to go to Pebble Beach real

757
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: quick before we let you go.

758
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: One.

759
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: How many times have you watched the ice plant shot?

760
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: And at what point when you climbed down on the

761
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: ice plant in enameter, did you think, oh, I can

762
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: actually hit this thing.

763
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, watching it quite a few times.

764
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean, just looking at the some of the USM

765
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: coverage from last week, it it popped up.

766
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: I saw aple occasions.

767
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that that was a sweet shot. Uh no,

768
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: I remember, because like I almost hit driver on that

769
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: whole every single day. And I hit it down there was.

770
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: That was doing four? Is that four four?

771
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? And that was in the first round of the final.

772
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: And I just looked down there. I'm like, I know,

773
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: the ice plant is a bat, you know, it's very

774
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: hard to hit at.

775
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just looked at the lion. I'm like,

776
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: it's sitting up perfectly. Now, he's completely blind. And I

777
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: had to go down there thirty five feet But it's

778
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: match play and.

779
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: As well give it a rip.

780
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, might as well give it a go, and and yeah,

781
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: it just worked out and it was It was a

782
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: lot of fun.

783
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild. Twenty nineteen the US Open. Obviously, after

784
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: you win the Amateur you played excellent golf. I believe

785
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: you're Silena Ametery turn pro That next week. You were

786
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 4: talking to a few OEMs kind of looking at some

787
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: different club companies out there. What made you land on Ping?

788
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: I just thought the you know, I've been around some

789
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: of the guys before, just seeing him in college and

790
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I've always really just respected the

791
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: brand and the clubs that they produce, and I actually

792
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: did have.

793
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: Because I played.

794
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Tailor made my whole college career and the year basically

795
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: before I went to college. But I remember one time

796
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I started swinging it.

797
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: So poorly and I actually.

798
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Got fitted for some ping irons and I had a

799
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: pin driver, and I'm like, this, this.

800
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: Stuff is pretty easy to hit.

801
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: So it was always in the back of my mind,

802
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: like when I swung it the worst, I switched to

803
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: pink clubs.

804
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, this is better.

805
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: But I ended up going back to the tailment clubs

806
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: because that's what I had played with. And then obviously

807
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: when it was time to decide what brand I was

808
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna go with for Turning Pro, I really, you know,

809
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: just delved into the stuff a little bit deeper and

810
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I love the driver. Putter's great

811
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: and the irons were awesome. So I'm like, all right,

812
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: this this sounds like a great fit.

813
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, easy switch.

814
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that US opening night was quite impressive. You're

815
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: driving then.

816
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the following week, I remember I think I

817
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: gained maybe fourteen shots or something stupid and two tournaments.

818
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome.

819
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Now your driver, you play that little cut down there

820
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: with your irons. Are you shaping them a lot or

821
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: are you just trying to hit them literally with not

822
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 3: much curve on them, not trying to curve it a lot. Ye,

823
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 3: I would say, I'm hitting a lot of really straight shots.

824
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when that's when I'm hitting the normal full swing.

825
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: So when I'm hitting that full swing iron shot, it

826
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: will go very straight, sometimes even draw a little bit.

827
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: But when I'm absolutely dialed in and I'm trying to

828
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: just hit my yardages and hitting those kind of three

829
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: quarter shots all take off distance by just trying to

830
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: cut it a little bit more. So when I'm really

831
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: swinging it, well, I'm like, okay, a perfect shot goes

832
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: this far, I need to take four yards off of it.

833
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: So I'll put a little bit of a you know,

834
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: more open the baseline, get my hands to feel like, okay,

835
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: they're going a little bit more left, and put a

836
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: little bit more cut spin on it, and that's gonna

837
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: take off a couple of yards. And that's when I'm

838
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: in the zone. That's that's when I'm hitting that just

839
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: a little bigger curve in there, and I know the

840
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: best part about that shot it's never going left, and

841
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: so that gives me a lot of safety and I

842
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: can really attack pins that way.

843
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: We use that curve to control your distance a little bit. Yeah,

844
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: were there any of those shots yesterday? I would say

845
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: I hit a really nice one onto number twelve.

846
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: I hit a nice five iron down there, positioned myself

847
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: well and I had like one hundred and fifty five yards,

848
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: and going back to earlier, I was hitting its really

849
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: far and it was down wind to front right pin,

850
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a perfect kind of cut,

851
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: hold off pitching wedge, and I just you know, aimed

852
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: it left, aimed the middle of the green and just

853
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: hit a nice cut in there, probably five six seven yards.

854
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeahs are pretty close. So I hit numerous of those

855
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: shots in there.

856
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: People are gonna like playing with you at the Ryder Cup,

857
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 4: I believe, especially the way you're swinging at it right now.

858
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: When does the mentality switch, I'm assuming it's some of

859
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: it's already there, i mean, Tour Championship this week, But

860
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 4: when does the mind go Okay, it's Ryder Cup time.

861
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: I'm dialed in, no hats, you know, I'm gonna hit

862
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 4: my haircut and get it all dialed so I can

863
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: I can go euro hatless, you know, I mean it

864
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 4: seems to be a trend. And also, who would you

865
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 4: love to play with in one of the team events

866
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 4: that or one of the partnership events at the Ryder

867
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 4: Cup that you maybe have never played a group like

868
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 4: a team thing with before.

869
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

870
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you can fully be in Ryder Cup

871
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: mode until you get there.

872
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 4: Okay, but like like week of get to Italy and you're.

873
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's when it just hits. There we

874
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: go and here we go, see the bag. Yeah, it's on.

875
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: But we're constantly you know, we have a group that

876
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: thread and constantly in talks with Luke the captain. And

877
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm playing with like for example, I

878
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: played with Rory yesterday and and anytime I'm just playing

879
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: with guys that are gonna be on the team, it's like, man,

880
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: that's gonna be so much fun.

881
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: I mean, like if you talk about it with Rory

882
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: when you guys are playing like yesterday, I mean there

883
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: chatter about the Ryder Cup.

884
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: I said after after I made the plot on eighteen

885
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: and we walked off and I said, man, Ron's gonna

886
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: be fun. And yeah, and he played he played well

887
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: as well. So I feel like our team is really

888
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: starting to shape up, and I think it's going to

889
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: be a blast. In terms of the partners. I got

890
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: to play with a few different guys last time. I

891
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: I haven't played too much with Turrell, but you know,

892
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: ping guy and and I just really love hanging out

893
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: with Turrell, So I think it'd be cool that.

894
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: I think that would be a good pairing. But I

895
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: feel like what's so cool.

896
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: With our team is that we could literally just put

897
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: anyone together and I think we're gonna have just a

898
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: strong lineup no matter what.

899
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's uh. I feel like golf people

900
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 4: just when it's Ryder Cup year, you get through the

901
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 4: Open Championship, you start to get to the playoffs, and

902
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: like the focus just all turns to it and it's

903
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 4: three days. I mean. That's also a crazy thing about

904
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: the Ryder Cup is it's this enormous thing every two

905
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: years and you get three days of it and then

906
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: it's you know, wait two more years and you get

907
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 4: to go at it again. So it's so very exciting.

908
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 4: We're excited about it, just excited about seeing everybody with

909
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: out there, you know, I mean, nobody goes hats. Everybody

910
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: gets the aircut. Everybody puts a little product in it, you know,

911
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 4: especially if it's gonna be a little windy in Italy,

912
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: you know, you gotta gotta add double product. But light

913
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: they're great playing.

914
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Man.

915
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: That was so cool to see. I know, I was

916
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 4: living to breathe on every swinge. I mean literally, like

917
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: my son was yelling at me about the TV. My

918
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: kids were I want he wanted something else on. My

919
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: son's a little young for it. He's four, he's not

920
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: quite into the golf mode yet. But uh, congrats on

921
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 4: the victory.

922
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: You can go. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.

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00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome victor.