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Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast,

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Speaker 3: and we're in the divisional Mitchell, Wow, what a weekend.

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Speaker 1: Richard, what a weekend it was? Ah Ah, i'm't fired

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Speaker 1: up to say the least.

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Speaker 2: Bet you know.

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Speaker 1: You know I am Richard, and I want to get

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to discuss the triple We got

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Speaker 1: to start with San fran San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: pull off an absolute, gut wrenching victory against the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Richard, did you see this one playing out

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Speaker 1: the way it did? An absolute squeaker at the end

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Speaker 1: for the San Francisco forty nine ers twenty four to

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Speaker 1: twenty one, huge win, Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: I expected it to be a dogfight.

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Speaker 3: I did. I expected them to trade blows back and forth.

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Speaker 3: But I did not expect San Francisco to be trailing

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Speaker 3: going into the fourth quarter. Because going into this game, Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers, when trailing by seven

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Speaker 3: points or more entering the fourth quarter under Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 3: were zero to thirty Mitchell. They were down twenty one

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Speaker 3: to fourteen going into the fourth quarter. When they're in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, if they're ever down by five plus

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Speaker 3: points Mitchell. They were two and forty one, Mitchell. They

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Speaker 3: were down most of it. And this team showed something

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Speaker 3: they had not shown all all season are ever under

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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan, the ability to make a fourth quarter comeback

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Speaker 3: win down more than a score, and they did that,

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Speaker 3: and that, like, it was really cool because rock Party

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Speaker 2: Anytime it rains, you're kind of nervous.

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Speaker 3: For the San Francisco forty nine ers, they just have

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Speaker 3: not played well under those conditions. So as soon as

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Speaker 3: I saw that on the forecast, and I'm sure every

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Speaker 3: sitting there very very stressed. Their anxiety level went up substantially.

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Speaker 3: But Brock Party last drive of the game, twelve plays,

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Speaker 3: sixty nine yards, capped off by a CMC five yard

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Speaker 3: run for a touchdown metro. For the fourth time in

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Speaker 3: the last five years, the San Francisco forty nine Ers

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Speaker 3: are in the NFC Championship. Third year in a row.

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Speaker 3: Is to it's becoming common practice. They expect to be there.

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Speaker 3: They should be there, But you got to give a

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Speaker 3: lot of credit to the Green Bay Packers and what

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Speaker 3: they were able to do. Jordan Love played a solid game.

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Speaker 3: He turned the ball over to so you know, you

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Speaker 3: last interception was kind of a head scratcher. Where was

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Speaker 3: he going with the ball while it was first down?

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Speaker 3: It was unnecessarily forced play. It wasn't like he had

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Speaker 3: to have it at that time. They had time on

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Speaker 3: good game. You got the concerns about Depot and his

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Speaker 3: But Juwan Jennings third, and Juwan deserves a ton of credit.

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Speaker 3: He didn't He stepped into a moment he wasn't expected

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Speaker 3: Deebo went out. He made huge play after huge play,

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Speaker 2: Mitchell, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Rich I mean, this game, for all intense purposes, did

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Speaker 1: folks thought it would go. Green Bay had their fair

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Speaker 1: shared chances to put this one away. Darnell Savage should

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Speaker 1: I mean, green Bay exceeded expectations. You got to tip

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Speaker 1: your hat to this team. They gave San Francisco hell, Richard,

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Speaker 1: I think you they gave him hell. And they looked

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Speaker 3: But that's that's where you get concerned, because I don't

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Speaker 3: trust playoff performances like I used to, Mitch Well, you

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Speaker 3: used to. It used to be a great indicator, a

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Speaker 3: great Barama or a future success. You could say, hey,

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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguar situation where you're like, okay, they started

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Speaker 3: and weren't even a playoff team after, you know, making

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Speaker 3: that big comeback against the Chargers. They looked good against

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Speaker 3: a playoff team next year. So while you got to

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Speaker 3: give him a lot of credit, but sometimes these kind

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Speaker 3: of losses are back breaking. Sometimes these kind of losses

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Speaker 3: you never even get close again.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: But Jordan loves look looks like an elite quarterback. The

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Speaker 3: strong young receiving corps that that are very unselfish. Aaron

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Speaker 3: Jones played his best game against the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 3: Whatever a win is a win and winners advance and

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Speaker 2: That's the playoffs, Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: It's the tournament, and for the third time in the

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions. But we'll get there when we get there, Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: because speaking of your Detroit Lions, mitchells in a championship Richard.

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Speaker 1: I was in ford Field today and much like last weekend,

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Speaker 1: it was absolutely electric. That city was a buzzin' and

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Speaker 1: this city, Richard, speaking candidly, we deserve it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's been it's been decades. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: This city embraced this team, this mentality, this gritty mentality.

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Speaker 1: This game wasn't pretty, but Detroit got it done. And Richard,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, you know, this is a guy that had

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Speaker 1: For the second game in a row, his name is

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Speaker 1: throws for twenty seven, two touchdowns, no turnovers. They beat

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Speaker 1: the Bucks. Richard, I gotta know your thoughts about this team.

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Speaker 1: I know they're going to be playing your San Francisco

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a great performance.

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Speaker 3: I thought they would stood Baker Mayfield because he was

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Speaker 3: I'm on Ross Saint Brown, your boy Jamier Gibbs played

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's one of those things. You got

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at our guy, and I don't

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Speaker 2: But I got to every once in a while, Richard.

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Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson, Richard, I gotta know you were a trash

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Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson got into it a little bit with Baker

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Speaker 3: Man, Oh, Mitchell, it's it's it's liberating, Mitchell. It's it's invigorating.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's hard to describe when you when

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Dbo's playing, but I think this

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Speaker 1: Well, Richard, I know you had your eyes on this matchup.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't. Richard, you called this going into this week.

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Speaker 1: You said there's no way Josh Allen overcomes Mahomes, and

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Speaker 2: Camp I will not. I will refuse.

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing it because you have not shown me

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Speaker 3: these big arm quarterbacks and everything they do well. He

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Speaker 3: you can't beat Patrick Mahoons like that. You're not beating

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahons by playing not to lose the game, because

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Speaker 3: But until they're slay, they are champions. And they were

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Speaker 3: not going to go home without a fight. Buffalo had

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Speaker 3: played by Patrick Mahones. You played too conservatively. Yeah you

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Speaker 3: You look like you were playing not to lose the game,

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Speaker 2: And that's what he lost his game, There's no question

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Speaker 1: And Richard also, you know, we were talking about it

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Mitchell. I don't know if it's confidence.

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Speaker 3: there's no like, oh man, that was a tough play.

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Speaker 3: We're having a conversation for the sixth year in a

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Speaker 3: that's not changing anything for them. Their defense travels, they

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Speaker 3: an opponent that Baltimore could see and feel comfortable about.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a game Baltimore should still be favorite.

435
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Speaker 3: They're still a great team. They should still expect to

436
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Speaker 3: win this game. But when Patrick Mahomes is out there, Mitchell,

437
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: you do not bet against him. And I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: I'm betting against them, Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: I don't blame you.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Baltimore, because they took it to Houston.

441
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Speaker 1: Houston was riding high. I mean CJ. Stroud looked like

442
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Speaker 1: I mean he is I would assume the rookie of

443
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Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 2: He looks like a.

445
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Speaker 1: Future MVP candidate for sure. Houston got steamrolled but for

446
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: a punt return touchdown. They were held off the board offensively,

447
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: and Baltimore took it to him. Lamar Jackson one hundred

448
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: rushing yards, two pass touchdowns, two rush touchdowns, one hundred

449
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Speaker 1: plus pass rating.

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Speaker 2: Richard. Has he proven himself to you as an MVP

451
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Speaker 2: worthy candidate?

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Speaker 3: Well, Mitchell, it's one of those situations where he's going

453
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Speaker 3: to get it. He's going to get it by what

454
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Speaker 3: I would say, default Mitchell, he was. He had twenty

455
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Speaker 3: nine total touchdowns in a regular season. That'll be the

456
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Speaker 3: least amount of touchdowns for an MVP I think since

457
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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven, at least for a quarterback, and so

458
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: it's just a different year. You'll think there would be

459
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: a chance for he and Christian McCaffrey to split it.

460
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: Christian steal had a fantastic year. They wore the number

461
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: one seed in their in their conference. But he'll get it.

462
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Speaker 3: He deserves it. But in these playoffs he's played really well,

463
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Speaker 3: and he's gonna have to play well because right now

464
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Speaker 3: he's one in three versus Patrick Mahomes one in three,

465
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Speaker 3: and now he's gotten his second playoff win. But he's

466
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Speaker 3: been you know he was. Now he's two and three

467
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, he's one in three. If he beats Mahomes,

468
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Speaker 3: you've earned everything you get. You go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You feel very confident going through the the reigning Super

470
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Speaker 3: Bowl champs to get there. But it's not gonna be

471
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Speaker 3: an easy game. I don't think it's gonna be like

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Speaker 3: any of the playoff games, all regular season games that

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Speaker 3: they've had.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a dogfight.

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Speaker 3: Kansas City knows since urgency, Andy Reid is one of

476
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Speaker 3: the best play callers and drawing them up, and I

477
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Speaker 3: think they're gonna Mike munch I mean much check much

478
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Speaker 3: much munching.

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Speaker 2: Always it was mess his name up. I was mess

480
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Speaker 2: his name up.

481
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Speaker 3: And Mike McDonald on the defensive side are going to

482
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Speaker 3: do a great job drawing it up. This is going

483
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Speaker 3: to be a definite chess match and I can't wait

484
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Speaker 3: to see this game. It looks like they're going in

485
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Speaker 3: as the favorites. The Ravens are three point favorites at home,

486
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Speaker 3: which is standard. You know, that's that's just home field.

487
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: That's Vegas is saying. If it's a neutral site, it's

488
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Speaker 3: even with a three point spread, and that's about the

489
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Speaker 3: way I see it. Kansas City can play with them,

490
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: Baltimore can play. They both can score, and any given Sunday,

491
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: anything can happen. This is one of those games. The

492
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Speaker 3: Lions are playing at the forty nine ers. Mitchell, I

493
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Speaker 3: think it's going to be a dogfight. I think the

494
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Speaker 3: concern I would have for Detroit is their secondary. You know,

495
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Speaker 3: they're mostly at the corners, Mostly at the corners. The

496
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Speaker 3: corners are the spots that they've been vulnerable. The pass

497
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Speaker 3: rush has gotten hotter than they than they had been

498
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Speaker 3: earlier in the season. Aiden Hutchinson, I think, has gotten

499
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Speaker 3: a sack in just about every game in the last

500
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Speaker 3: four or five games. Offensively, they've run the ball well.

501
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: Their offensive offensive line has done a great job opening

502
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: holes for Jamier Gibbs, Ben Johnson drawing it up. It's

503
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: been great and it looks good. But I think San Francisco,

504
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they're six and a half point favorites for

505
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: a reason in this game. I think they match up

506
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: really well with the Detroit Lions. But any given Sunday,

507
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: and this team has shown a lot of fight, a

508
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: lot of grit and found ways to win. So we'll see,

509
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Speaker 3: we shall see.

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Speaker 1: And Richard, the last few weeks I've asked you with

511
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Speaker 1: underdog teams, if the Lions are to go into San

512
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Speaker 1: Francisco and get a win, how is that going to happen?

513
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Speaker 1: Lay the blueprint for me, so us Detroit's give me

514
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Speaker 1: some faith back here in Detroit. How are you gonna

515
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Speaker 1: play this game? As Dan Campbell Ben Johnson scripting this

516
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: out for a win for the Lions.

517
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Speaker 3: Well, the only way that the ways that San Francisco

518
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Speaker 3: has been beat or when they turn the ball over,

519
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: you have to force brock Perty to turn the football

520
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: over when they've lost. That's what has happened. They lost

521
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 3: to Baltimore, he had the four interceptions. They lost to Cleveland,

522
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: he had interceptions. They lost to Minnesota. He threw interceptions.

523
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: They lost to Cincinnati, he threw interceptions. Those are the

524
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Speaker 3: games that they find a way to lose. And when

525
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: teams run the ball effectively, So you got to run

526
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Speaker 3: the ball, and that's something Detroit has done really well.

527
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Speaker 3: They have run the ball, run the ball, run the

528
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: ball really well. With these two good backs that they have,

529
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Speaker 3: they got to shorten a game like that, and they

530
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: got to turn the ball over and they got to

531
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Speaker 3: own the time possession. That's something Green Bay did really

532
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: well in this game. They own the time of possession.

533
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Speaker 3: They shortened the game a ton. They made sure that

534
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: that San Francisco didn't have as many possessions that they

535
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: couldn't lap them before the half when they missed the

536
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Speaker 3: field goal, then came out after the half and went

537
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Speaker 3: three and out.

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Speaker 2: Like those huge.

539
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: Things in the ball game, huge parts of the ball game,

540
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: huge reasons why they were leading and why they had

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Speaker 3: a chance to win because they own the time possession,

542
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Speaker 3: so shorten the game. You have to shorten the game

543
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: with a team like this. You can't keep giving them the

544
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: ball back and you definitely can't turn the ball over.

545
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: This defense it has struggled a bit versus the run,

546
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: and if they don't get that corrected, then you guys

547
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: should be able to move the ball down the field.

548
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: But they have been fantastic in the red zone and

549
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: standing up in the red zone. You can't exchange field

550
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 3: goals in this game with this team, or it's going

551
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: to be a long day, Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to avoid a long day, rich and I

553
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Speaker 1: got to ask before we conclude this podcast. I got

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Speaker 1: a no predictions. I know what's fresh in your brain,

555
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a long week for me to

556
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Speaker 1: try to coerce you to the Detroit side. You know, Richard,

557
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I need you to stand up for us on disputed

558
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: and it's at the minimum. Please and I know you will.

559
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Speaker 1: But Richard, what do you see the outcome? Niners Lions, Ravens, Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Who do you like and why?

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Speaker 3: I see the Niners for the Niners Lions game being

562
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: really competitive, in a fun game, physical, both defenses getting

563
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: after it. I think San Francisco's d line finally starts

564
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: to come to life because they've been very pedestrian and

565
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: in the last few games of the season, and in

566
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Speaker 3: his first playoff game, they look kind of rusty, look

567
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: kind of off.

568
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Speaker 2: It was Eric's first game back.

569
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Speaker 3: They didn't record a sack against Jordan Love, and so

570
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Speaker 3: I expect them to get on track and put some

571
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: pressure on Jared Golf because he's not moving around the pocket,

572
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: he's not moving anywhere. He's gonna be where he's supposed

573
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Speaker 3: to be. I expect Detroit to be able to run

574
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Speaker 3: the ball. They'll probably score some points. I don't think

575
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: Jared wi will turn the ball over, but they Kyle Shanahan,

576
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Speaker 3: and this defense is very familiar with Jared Golf. They

577
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Speaker 3: played him for a really long time, so they know

578
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: his habits, they know his tendencies, they know his adjustments,

579
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: they know how to get to them, they know how

580
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: to change his demeanor, so I think that will come

581
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: into play as well. I think San Francisco wins this game, Mitchell,

582
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Speaker 3: but it will be competitive. It won't be any kind

583
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: of blowout or or runaway game. But I think it's

584
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: gonna be a really good game. I think Chiefs that

585
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: Ravens is harder to call because I just need to

586
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: see how this Chiefs defense responds to this Baltimore offense

587
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: and can they block this d line which nobody has

588
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: been able to block them yet. That's the reason why

589
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: they're number one in sacks, number one in scoring, number

590
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: one in all these categories. But Patrick Mahons has done

591
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: it before, and he's done it with less, So I

592
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: I see Baltimore winning in like a field goal game,

593
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: but it's gonna come down to the last possession, last

594
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: drive of the game, and I think Lamar drives them

595
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: down for a game winning Field Gold and they walk

596
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: away with the win, and they go.

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Speaker 2: Meet San Francisco in the Super Bowl in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Viva Las Vega.

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Speaker 1: Well, Richard, I'll tell you this much, the Detroit Lions

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00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: are not going to go out without a dramatic fight.

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Speaker 1: I can promise you that this is the first time

602
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, actually second time, first time that I

603
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: can really be conscious and enjoy it that they've been

604
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 2: And Richard, just what if, my friend? If? What if?

606
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Speaker 2: What if? What if?

607
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: It only it only takes one and God bless it

608
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: any given say it's gonna be Jared Goff that just

609
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: does it. And Richard, I gotta, I gotta have this

610
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: one promise from you when the when that happens. Please,

611
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: can you done the Honolulu Blue and Silver for Super

612
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: War Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Could I can done it? I like Detroit, I like

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Speaker 3: their team. I would have no problem don in that.

615
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't know if they could beat

616
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine. But if they do, Mitchell, I

617
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Speaker 3: can I can give me a sam Laport of Jersey

618
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: and throw it on Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: I much love that much of that, Richard this concludes

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Speaker 1: that the divisional round. You know who's not in this

621
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: discussion the Dallas Cowboys because they were a wild card

622
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: and done.

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Speaker 3: Richard, I will let you sign us off, Mitchell. They

624
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Speaker 3: they found a way to ruin my day, even when

625
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: they weren't even playing the divisional None Mitchell. For a

626
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: second there the San Francisco forty nine ers were struggling,

627
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Speaker 3: and I said, I know they're not going to make

628
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: me do the divisional and done for them. Don't do

629
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Speaker 3: this to me. Don't make me get there vision and

630
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: divisional and done.

631
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Speaker 2: Mitchell. I was concerned.

632
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: I was like, I know you were to go into

633
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: the office on Monday and have to deal with skip

634
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: if they would have lost. Mitchell, I don't even want

635
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: to think about it. Don't even want to think about it.

636
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: But it's just going to be an incredible weekend of football. Unexpected.

637
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: Watch that Kansas City Baltimore game. Do not sleep on

638
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs. I think Baltimore pulls it up.

639
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: But it would not surprise me at all. If the

640
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: reigning Super Bowl champions walk away and go play San

641
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: Francisco in the Super Bowl again, that would not be

642
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: that surprising.

643
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Mitchell.

644
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: They Patrick Mahoons that he's a hard man, the better

645
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: against these days Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I would I'd caution Baltimore fans.

647
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Speaker 3: I know they're feeling it Mitchell, and they may be

648
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 3: walking around with confidence and feeling good.

649
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: They would have rather played Josh Allen than Patrick Mahoons.

650
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Speaker 3: Anybody that's saying they would rather play Patrick Mahoons than

651
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: Josh Allen is lying to your face, and you need

652
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: to call them out on their bs because not a

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Speaker 3: team in this league prefers that, not one.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Rich, but we'll see you lose it.

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Speaker 1: Sign us off, my friend.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week, hull Enjoy your week, Enjoy

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Speaker 3: your week, stay warm, is pretty cold outside, and get

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Speaker 3: ready for a fantastic championship Sunday next week.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you after

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Speaker 1: The volume