Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, this is Steve. How's it going on?
Speaker 2: This has gone good? How are you doing, Steve Greed?
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm a fucking fan of you, dude. Nah, Steve, Steve, Steve,
Speaker 2: what's going on with you today? Steve?
Speaker 1: Well, I come to you, mister ghek. I like I
Speaker 1: go by froud Wood Steve on the internet, so I
Speaker 1: can kind of relate to you as a fellow Greenman. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: Never here now, nervous. It's just us here on the computer.
Speaker 1: Exactly, just us on the computer. So my problem is,
Speaker 1: I've been for the past couple of weeks now, I
Speaker 1: have been talking with this girl on the internet, and
Speaker 1: I felt like we made a pretty strong connection. But
Speaker 1: as things have gone I am feeling as if I
Speaker 1: may not be anything more than just a wallet to her.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel that way?
Speaker 1: Well, it seems there's times when I feel like I
Speaker 1: can only get any sort of reciprocation when or any
Speaker 1: kind of attention away from her other friends, is when
Speaker 1: I buy her something.
Speaker 2: Okay, have you met this woman in real life before?
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 2: Okay, what kinds of things have you been buying for her?
Speaker 1: Well, she's into like kpop stuff, so I bought her.
Speaker 1: They have like these photo card collections that people correct,
Speaker 1: and I bought a whole bunch, a whole collection of
Speaker 1: this one girl that she's into for her. That's one
Speaker 1: thing I bought her stuff on, like video games that
Speaker 1: we play, like Legal Regions Islant. I brought a bunch
Speaker 1: of skins stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've spent probably upwards of close to one thousand dollars already.
Speaker 2: Okay, have you ever video chatted with her?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this. Why do you think
Speaker 2: you are doing this?
Speaker 1: I can give you an honest answer. I can do it.
Speaker 1: I do it because I think I'm desperate for a
Speaker 1: woman detention, and I think I cring on to the
Speaker 1: first sign of interest in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Have you always been like that.
Speaker 1: For the last few years of my life? Probably? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think as I get older it becomes worse. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Why do you think it gets worse as you get older?
Speaker 1: Ah, I don't have very much success meeting people in
Speaker 1: real life. I work from a home and I don't drink,
Speaker 1: so I don't like go out to bars or anything.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just it's hard to meet people in
Speaker 1: real life.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Would you say you have low self esteem? Where do
Speaker 2: you think that comes from?
Speaker 1: Uh, my own insecurities as a as a human. I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm an I'm an overweight man, and self image mostly.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: That and I feel there hasn't been a whole lot
Speaker 1: of times in my life where I've been I've had
Speaker 1: reasons to feel confident. I feel like no one else
Speaker 1: has really had confidence in me, So it's hard to
Speaker 1: instill that upon myself. I know that I should. I
Speaker 1: just don't really know how.
Speaker 2: What kinds of things do you think would give you
Speaker 2: more confidence?
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. I'd like to see myself, you know,
Speaker 1: start losing some weight. I've been kind of doing that
Speaker 1: a little bit this year, but I think if I can,
Speaker 1: if I can knock that out, it would help my
Speaker 1: at least my self image and self esteem in that
Speaker 1: regard a little bit. But you know, they say you
Speaker 1: can't love anybody, so you love yourself, So I guess
Speaker 1: that's really what I'm working on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, So this is a really this is really
Speaker 2: interesting stuff that you're bringing up here because and this
Speaker 2: is a lesson I had to learn myself that I'm
Speaker 2: telling you here is you're trying to fix an internal
Speaker 2: issue through external means, having the validation of other people,
Speaker 2: having the validation of this girl. It may fix your
Speaker 2: issue temporarily in the moment, but it's not a sustainable
Speaker 2: solution because their validation is fleeting. It is what's the
Speaker 2: word I'm looking for. It is inconsistent and it is
Speaker 2: not a thing that you want to be dependent on.
Speaker 2: Instead of finding the solution to your problem of insecurity
Speaker 2: by trying to get other people to like you, you
Speaker 2: need to go one eighty and find that through means
Speaker 2: that are completely in one hundred percent within your control.
Speaker 2: It is a harder and longer road because sometimes it
Speaker 2: feels like it's a it's a shorter cut to you know,
Speaker 2: pay a girl, you know, for Valoris Skins or for
Speaker 2: whatever else it is, to get her to like you.
Speaker 2: It's like, I think one of the reasons why you
Speaker 2: might feel inclined to do that is because it's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a short cut, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if I do this, then I don't have to do
Speaker 2: the internal work and walk the long road of building
Speaker 2: internal confidence. And I get that, man. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's something you need to be ashamed of or or
Speaker 2: feel like you're an inceell for or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It's it's a really understandable impulse. But I think that
Speaker 2: if you you got to just really understand that that
Speaker 2: the only sustainable solution to your problem is to walk
Speaker 2: the long road of building internal confidence.
Speaker 1: I agree, I I definitely recognize that obviously, Like you said,
Speaker 1: it's easier said than done, but uh yeah, I couldn't agree.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree anymore dred percent.
Speaker 2: It is easier said than done. Dude. When I was
Speaker 2: in college, I was like obsessed with Tinder, and I
Speaker 2: was really I was really obsessed with like trying to
Speaker 2: get validation through like you know, other people like me,
Speaker 2: you know, or things like that. And it's just it's
Speaker 2: just not the correct way of going about that. You know,
Speaker 2: you really have to find things within yourself that give
Speaker 2: you self esteem. I mean, now it's and it's weird, man,
Speaker 2: because you know you're saying you're overweight. I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm the most overweight I've been in my life. But
Speaker 2: I feel confident in myself and what gives me confidence
Speaker 2: in myself lately is that I just I know when
Speaker 2: I wake up in the morning that I fucking try.
Speaker 2: You know, that's all that matters. I don't get I
Speaker 2: don't I don't get confidence or validation from people dm
Speaker 2: ing me that you know I've helped them with this podcast,
Speaker 2: or from some girl liking me, or from any of
Speaker 2: that stuff. It's it's lately just been you know what,
Speaker 2: fuck it. I wake up and I do the best
Speaker 2: I can with however limited of energy.
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 2: To figure stuff out to try and be nice to people,
Speaker 2: to exert some kind of energy out into the world.
Speaker 2: And if anyone wants to give me shit, go ahead.
Speaker 2: But I fucking tried. That's that's what gives me confidence,
Speaker 2: more than anyone externally telling me anything, you know, And
Speaker 2: it took it took a really long time to get
Speaker 2: to that point. But if you can find something like
Speaker 2: that for yourself, that you can really cling to and
Speaker 2: that you can really believe in, not just like try
Speaker 2: to get yourself to believe in, but that you can
Speaker 2: poke around at all the angles and be like, no,
Speaker 2: this is true, I really I did. I tried, And
Speaker 2: that's my rock of self esteem. Then you'll just be
Speaker 2: happier man's and and I just I know from experience,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if any of that resonated with you, but.
Speaker 1: I think very insightful shit. I think I just wanted
Speaker 1: to throw one one thing and then I kind of
Speaker 1: left this out because it's probably the biggest insecurity I have,
Speaker 1: and I don't admit it to many people, but especially
Speaker 1: the climate, and not climate, but the society, the male
Speaker 1: dominated size society we live in these days where everything's
Speaker 1: about you know, who gets the most bitches or whatever,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Like sex is a lot of big part
Speaker 1: of this world. I'm twenty six years old and I'm
Speaker 1: a virgin, and that drives me insane a little good
Speaker 1: sometimes to think about. You know, I'm not getting any younger.
Speaker 1: My friends they all have they have families like the
Speaker 1: children I have little nephews like and it makes me
Speaker 1: sit here like I'm twenty What am I doing?
Speaker 2: Hmm? Well, first of all, you're not. You're definitely not alone.
Speaker 2: There are lots and lots and lots and lots and
Speaker 2: lots of guys out there who are also Uh. I
Speaker 2: guess you could say, you know, virgins at an age
Speaker 2: where most people aren't. But I mean, tell me, okay,
Speaker 2: tell me more about your personal relationship with that. I
Speaker 2: want to dive a little bit deeper into that. Do
Speaker 2: you feel like an embarrassment? Do you feel you know,
Speaker 2: what is your relationship with that aspect of your life?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely something I'm embarrassed about. I think I've
Speaker 1: only told I've only explicitly told like two or three
Speaker 1: people in my life about it, because you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it comes up sometimes. I don't feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm hanging with the boys and everyone's talking about
Speaker 1: like ill, you know, just like sex stuff, I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting there with my my sumb up my ass, not
Speaker 1: knowing any of them that I feel left out. I
Speaker 1: feel embarrassed, I feel ashamed, I feel like I'm behind.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel I'll feel a lot of
Speaker 1: things about it.
Speaker 2: M why do you feel like you're well, Okay, let
Speaker 2: me ask yourselfing take away if we could for a second,
Speaker 2: take away the boys you know talking about sex. Take
Speaker 2: away the general societal expectation that you lose your virginity
Speaker 2: at a certain age. Take away, the shame take take
Speaker 2: take it all away then just for a second, like
Speaker 2: what's important to you in your life? How does being
Speaker 2: a virgin compare to just what's important to your life
Speaker 2: in general?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Like is sex? Is it really important to you? And
Speaker 2: by the way, completely okay if the answer is yes,
Speaker 2: very but I just want to know what the answer is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I mean, to be honest,
Speaker 1: something there. I don't think it's like, it's not super
Speaker 1: important to me. It doesn't define you know, who I am.
Speaker 1: I'm not out there looking to you know, stick my
Speaker 1: dick into anything that moves, obviously, but I just think
Speaker 1: it's not it's it's more of just a crutch. I
Speaker 1: guess at this point it's like a milestone that I
Speaker 1: feel like I should have reached, even until as it sounds,
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, it's not super important.
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, that's what I wanted to know, and
Speaker 2: it would be fine if it is. If you're like, no,
Speaker 2: I really want to know what sex feels like. I
Speaker 2: really want to like if that was your truth, then
Speaker 2: that would you know, It's totally fine. But I was
Speaker 2: just wondering if, if, if that is important to you
Speaker 2: and from what you've told me. Just now you're saying
Speaker 2: it is not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't. I mean, obviously I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I wouldn't mind. But it's not like
Speaker 1: it's not top priority because I'm my life.
Speaker 2: Okay. But althoughkay, okay, But so all the other things
Speaker 2: that we've been talking about, though, finding a sense of
Speaker 2: security within yourself. That sounds like, and again, tell me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, but that sounds like that is important
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to kind of like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, when you wake up and you're confident in
Speaker 1: yourself that you're trying and you're doing your best every day.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to be able to feel
Speaker 1: that about myself.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. By I don't feel that every day. Sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, I was a piece of shit today,
Speaker 2: you know. But even even then, even you know what
Speaker 2: I'm I lately, my thing is, you know, even then,
Speaker 2: even the days where I'm like fuck, I just slept
Speaker 2: all day, I didn't do the things I was supposed
Speaker 2: to do. Try to be less hard on myself and
Speaker 2: just be like, okay, well that's a version of trying
Speaker 2: the best I can in a sense, in a weird way.
Speaker 2: I'm still not working on that, but m dude, I
Speaker 2: feel like walking the path of finding security within yourself.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's the most important thing for you
Speaker 2: to do right now. And losing your virginity I think
Speaker 2: will happen as a result of that, right, because you'll
Speaker 2: become more attractive if you're more secure in yourself.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But but you know, it's another thing, man. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I was just talking about like losing your
Speaker 2: virginity and sex, and well, it's just another It's just
Speaker 2: another external thing. It's just another fucking external thing that
Speaker 2: is not a sustainable way of building self confidence. I
Speaker 2: would look at it like that, It's just another fucking
Speaker 2: external thing. Like like I don't know, dude, Say you
Speaker 2: got to a bar one day and you meet a
Speaker 2: girl and she happens to be into you, and you
Speaker 2: guys have sex and then boom, now you're not a
Speaker 2: virgin anymore. Like is that really gonna change your life?
Speaker 2: You know, like, Okay, maybe you won't feel like so
Speaker 2: whatever about being a virgin, But is that really gonna
Speaker 2: sustainably change your life for the better in a long
Speaker 2: term way? It's not. That's the that's the truth. The
Speaker 2: only way to sustainably change your life for the better
Speaker 2: and long term way is to do all the other ship.
Speaker 2: We've been talking about it about looking inwards. So I
Speaker 2: just hope you recognize that, because because it took me
Speaker 2: a while to recognize that too.
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, I definitely I don't agree with that,
Speaker 1: But I think going back to the original point, then,
Speaker 1: do you think I should stop talking to this girl?
Speaker 2: Yes, you should definitely stop talking to this girl.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. I tried. I actually did try, but she had
Speaker 1: to me back and then I felt free to again.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I did. I. Look, don't don't be
Speaker 2: so hard on yourself. I know that. You know, at
Speaker 2: the beginning you said the chat was calling you or whatever,
Speaker 2: but like you know, it's Look, it's it's tempting. Man.
Speaker 2: You have a you have this like problem, and here
Speaker 2: here is an easy solution to the problem. It's fucking
Speaker 2: fucking tempting.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Like, I get it. I'm gonna sit here and be like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why why is he doing it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I get it, man, Like it's a tempting band aid
Speaker 2: to the self esteem problem. It's fucking tempting. I totally
Speaker 2: get it. You know, try your that's dude, try your
Speaker 2: best to resip the to resist the temptation. But when
Speaker 2: you give in, don't spiral out of control as beating
Speaker 2: yourself up. It's understandable. You're working on this thing and
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get it perfect the first time, but
Speaker 2: as long as you keep working on.
Speaker 1: It, right well, uh yeah, that was awesome, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, I really appreciate the time today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and good good luck to you. I'm I I,
Speaker 2: like I said, it's a it's a hard path and
Speaker 2: everyone kind of has their own thing that builds their
Speaker 2: internal self confidence. And it's something I'm fucking working on
Speaker 2: every day still. But you know, it's it's it's kind
Speaker 2: of I think the only way to do it. And
Speaker 2: and and good luck to you and Steve, thanks for
Speaker 2: I know this is something you don't talk to a
Speaker 2: lot of people about, so thanks for, uh you don't
Speaker 2: having the courage to talk to us about.
Speaker 1: It, one hundred percent, it helps kind of having that.
Speaker 1: And I'm m Toby, I can't say that word that
Speaker 1: well of the internet, but you know, a huge fan
Speaker 1: of the therapy gected watching you for a while, so
Speaker 1: figured i'd give it a shot and see if I
Speaker 1: can get on.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, Steve, talk too soon, take care a while.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Yeah, everything I was talking to Steve about
Speaker 2: is the thing that took me a while to realize.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's there's and and everyone this. I
Speaker 2: don't think this is specifically like, you know, a guy issue.
Speaker 2: I think this is just a general human being thing,
Speaker 2: like the struggle for finding internal validations so that you're
Speaker 2: not looking to other people or to events or you
Speaker 2: know whatever, sex or likes on the internet or whatever,
Speaker 2: whatever the fucking thing is for validation. It's a struggle
Speaker 2: that a lot of people have, and I'm not a
Speaker 2: master of it by any means. It's something I've been
Speaker 2: struggling with for a while. Everyone has that struggle to
Speaker 2: some degree, and it's hard. It's really hard to build
Speaker 2: that internal rock. But I think the first step to
Speaker 2: it is to is to snap the fuck out of
Speaker 2: the mindset of Okay, well, if I finally have sex,
Speaker 2: i'm not a virgin, then I'll feel validated, you know.
Speaker 2: Or Oh, if I have a girlfriend or a boyfriend,
Speaker 2: I'll feel validated. Oh if I make this thing on
Speaker 2: the Internet, and lots of people tell me every day
Speaker 2: how much they they love this thing. I'll feel validated.
Speaker 2: It's it's just not. It doesn't fucking work like that.
Speaker 2: It really doesn't. And I've been really lucky to kind
Speaker 2: of be able to experience all the things that I
Speaker 2: thought would make me feel validated if I were to
Speaker 2: experience them, because that, for me, was the only way
Speaker 2: to then realize, oh, okay, that's not the answer to
Speaker 2: then go back and go okay, you actually have to,
Speaker 2: as I was just talking to Steve about do the
Speaker 2: one eighty and look within for for validation. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for that, but if I can tell you now,
Speaker 2: you know, if you the first is to realize you're
Speaker 2: not going to find it anywhere other than within. You
Speaker 2: are on a wild goose chase. Otherwise, all right? That
Speaker 2: was That was That was my little gecko talk. That
Speaker 2: was my little gecko talk. Sometimes I forget that I'm
Speaker 2: streaming and I just talk to myself. Thank you again, Steve. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 2: how are you h what's going on?
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 2: I am? I'm a gecko, You're a gecko. What's going
Speaker 2: on with you?
Speaker 4: Nothing? I'm just showing in bed, I was smoking waiting
Speaker 4: again on the show hopefully the weed of course.
Speaker 2: How how stone are you right now?
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I'm not really that stoned.
Speaker 4: I smoke every day. So more so like, let's chill
Speaker 4: and see if I get on the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know I wanted to. I'm gonna. I know
Speaker 2: you have a thing you want to talk about it,
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you this real quick. How
Speaker 2: how does smoking weed make you feel? Because I feel
Speaker 2: like it affects everyone super differently, and I have my
Speaker 2: own way that it makes me feel, and it's I'm
Speaker 2: very interested in how how differently it affects people.
Speaker 4: Well. To be honest with you, I've been smoking every
Speaker 4: day for the past four years, I'd say, like consistently, sure,
Speaker 4: so to be honest with you, it's not so much
Speaker 4: of a like, oh, like I'm so big, like I
Speaker 4: don't even know how to handle myself. It's not like
Speaker 4: a drug to me. It's more so like, let's just chill,
Speaker 4: smoke a bowl, calm down. It just calms everything down.
Speaker 4: Like that's really the best way.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like after getting high every day for
Speaker 2: four years, it's it's almost like it's your baseline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, I mean even in my fucking license photo,
Speaker 4: we got might be bigged in there. So if I
Speaker 4: get BIGGD colled over out looks the same in my
Speaker 4: license photo.
Speaker 2: You know what. I I want to say that that's
Speaker 2: a smart move, but I feel like that would be
Speaker 2: responsible of me to say, so I'll imply it indirectly. Autumn,
Speaker 2: what's that? What's what's going on? How how can I
Speaker 2: get you today?
Speaker 4: Well, I am in love with somebody that I met
Speaker 4: less than a month ago, and I truly believe that
Speaker 4: it's love it first night. And I know it kind
Speaker 4: of sound stupid, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what makes you believe that it is love at
Speaker 2: first sight?
Speaker 4: Well, to think about it though, is like I truly
Speaker 4: believe in like human connection and like soul connections, twin flames, soulmates,
Speaker 4: all of that. Like I can feel somebody's energy while
Speaker 4: talking to them, I can read somebody's body language like
Speaker 4: the whole fucking nine yards, And it's like, just with
Speaker 4: this one specific person, I've never felt more of a
Speaker 4: like a connection almost like I really don't I really
Speaker 4: do know how to describe it, Like the first time
Speaker 4: I hugged him when I first met him, like it
Speaker 4: was unreal. It's there's no words to describe it. That's
Speaker 4: why I feel like love at first sight is really
Speaker 4: a true thing when I don't have any words to
Speaker 4: describe it.
Speaker 2: Is this something that you felt before?
Speaker 4: No, that's the thing. I've never felt it before. And
Speaker 4: now there has tea and we've had like long conversations
Speaker 4: about this too.
Speaker 2: So so are you It says here that you are
Speaker 2: planning on getting married to this guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's something that really caught my mind because
Speaker 4: it was kind of a joke, like I had like
Speaker 4: a bunch of rings on and I put my left
Speaker 4: hand out and my left hand didn't have a ring finger,
Speaker 4: I mean a ring on my ring finger. And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, look it's missing something. As a joke,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like saying that like it's
Speaker 4: missing a wedding ring. I joke all the time. I'm
Speaker 4: a fucking sarcastic person. And he kind of looked at
Speaker 4: me differently, and I was like, what, you actually want
Speaker 4: to get married to me? And he was like that
Speaker 4: wouldn't be a bad option though, And I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: would you actually like like we kind of just like
Speaker 4: got into a full conversation about it, and we realized, like, no,
Speaker 4: like I would actually get married to you, Like I've
Speaker 4: never felt this type of emotion towards somebody, The type
Speaker 4: of energy towards somebody, Like it's undescribable. That's the problem,
Speaker 4: because there's no way to like actually put it into words.
Speaker 2: So it is an indescribable energy that you are feeling.
Speaker 2: What exactly are you looking for? Let me let me
Speaker 2: rephrase this question. Why is love important to you?
Speaker 4: If I'm being truly honest, I feel like I never
Speaker 4: received it in the way that I've always wanted to
Speaker 4: receive love like past relationships. Wise, I'm not talking about
Speaker 4: like my family, like my mom or grandparents or any
Speaker 4: of that type of shit. Like I'm talking about like
Speaker 4: true love, like just wanting to find my true love.
Speaker 4: And I don't know why. Maybe that's just because I've
Speaker 4: always been on like the search for it. But I
Speaker 4: hopped on bumble and I was just like, fuck it,
Speaker 4: let's go get some free dinners.
Speaker 2: And I mean so well, so so so hold on
Speaker 2: top because I want to. I want to, I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to answer you this real quick because because
Speaker 2: you said to me that you want love in your
Speaker 2: life because you've just been searching for You've just been
Speaker 2: searching for it for so long that you haven't even
Speaker 2: stopped to think about why you're searching it or or
Speaker 2: you know, ever asked yourself that question.
Speaker 4: Well, see, that's that's the thing, though I haven't. It's
Speaker 4: not that I haven't stopped, like I have stopped. I've
Speaker 4: stopped and really thought, like, how do I want to
Speaker 4: be treated? How do I want somebody to like really
Speaker 4: treat me in a relationship? How do I want somebody
Speaker 4: to show love towards me? How do I want somebody
Speaker 4: to truly understand me? Can they deal with my depression
Speaker 4: and my anxiety? Like somebody who is one hundred percent
Speaker 4: the person that I imagine them to be and the person
Speaker 4: that I met, Like, he is that, and that's weird.
Speaker 4: So it's weird to find somebody who shows me true loves.
Speaker 2: So you you have imagined this person and you say
Speaker 2: that this is somebody who is exactly who you imagined
Speaker 2: them to be. Basically, Yeah, so let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: You said you've known them for a month.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. That's the that's the that's the catch there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how long do you believe that it takes to
Speaker 2: really get to know a person.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I mean, it really depends on
Speaker 4: like the conversation. I don't think there's really like a
Speaker 4: time limit. Like you could spend weeks and weeks working
Speaker 4: with somebody and not know a single fucking thing about
Speaker 4: them because the only thing to talk about is work,
Speaker 4: or they don't talk at all, they're not a social person.
Speaker 4: But when like the other day we sat down and
Speaker 4: watched the stars and smoked the blunt and fucking cuddled
Speaker 4: on the beach and we were talking about life and
Speaker 4: like like goals and like it's just it's not just conversation,
Speaker 4: it's just like really really getting to know somebody. Knowing
Speaker 4: somebody's like true emotion, true feeling Like this, Sam, what else?
Speaker 2: Tell me? What else was going on in your life
Speaker 2: at this moment?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 4: Nothing? I mean I was going out of college, I
Speaker 4: was in a job. I was really just making money
Speaker 4: to pay for college. So it was kind of just like, oh,
Speaker 4: let's just hop on bumble and have some fun. I mean,
Speaker 4: I was in a past relationship a little before that,
Speaker 4: But okay, what was.
Speaker 2: What was that past relationship?
Speaker 3: Like see.
Speaker 4: That's the thing, though, is that was really shitting probably
Speaker 4: about like two weeks, and not even two weeks two days.
Speaker 4: It was an argument after an argument after disagreement, after
Speaker 4: he didn't like the fact that I was going out
Speaker 4: with an old guy best friend who actually has a boyfriend,
Speaker 4: and I tried explaining that to him, and he said
Speaker 4: that he could still hit on me. He didn't like
Speaker 4: that I was going out with my guy cousins, like
Speaker 4: he wouldn't like the fact that I would wear a
Speaker 4: crop top and a skirt, that it wore a lot
Speaker 4: of makeup, that I wore a big, chunky platforms, that
Speaker 4: I didn't mind yelling at somebody on the street who
Speaker 4: would say something back to me. It was very controlling,
Speaker 4: and I am not one to be controlled. I am
Speaker 4: the last person to be controlled. Immediately when it started,
Speaker 4: I mean not immediately, within like two weeks.
Speaker 2: But well, that's good. I'm glad to hear. I'm glad
Speaker 2: to hear that you have at least a baseline of
Speaker 2: what you know is not acceptable to you in this realm.
Speaker 2: And you know, oh look it says okay, it says
Speaker 2: he you're twenty one years old. You're thinking about getting
Speaker 2: married to a guy that you met a month ago.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, conventionally, I'm sure that everybody in your
Speaker 2: life who you've discussed this with is totally telling you
Speaker 2: that that is a terrible idea. Is that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Basically okay, And you know, I'm thinking about it. I'm
Speaker 2: really thinking about I've been thinking so much lately about
Speaker 2: what the point of fucking life is in general. Is
Speaker 2: it to find love? Is it to love yourself? Is
Speaker 2: it to have an impact on the world? Is it this?
Speaker 2: Is it that every one really gets to kind of
Speaker 2: decide in their own way what's important to them. And look,
Speaker 2: you're twenty one years old, and really at this point,
Speaker 2: the only way you could irreversibly change your life is
Speaker 2: if you went to jail, or got pregnant or got
Speaker 2: seriously injured. So look, if you want to go ahead
Speaker 2: and marry this guy who you met a month ago,
Speaker 2: I mean, look, is it a good idea? Isn't a
Speaker 2: bad idea? What does that even mean? A good idea
Speaker 2: or a bad idea? In in this case? I mean,
Speaker 2: you kind of get to decide what's important to you, right,
Speaker 2: And so you're here and you're deciding.
Speaker 1: That love is important to you.
Speaker 2: You're deciding that this connection is important to you, and
Speaker 2: if you want to go ahead and map your actions
Speaker 2: at this point in your life to what's important to
Speaker 2: you right now, and then you know if later you
Speaker 2: decide that, oh, that actually is not what's important to me, Oh,
Speaker 2: this actually wasn't the great decision. You know, you can
Speaker 2: change the course. So I don't think that you're about
Speaker 2: to do anything that's completely irrational and crazy. Do I
Speaker 2: personally believe that this is going to work out forever?
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know. I'm sure that there are plenty
Speaker 2: of people out there who've been in similar situations that
Speaker 2: have made them very happy, and really, not me or
Speaker 2: anyone else in your life can tell you for sure
Speaker 2: whether or not this is going to work out. But
Speaker 2: I think you should do you know, whatever maps to
Speaker 2: what's important to you in life right now, and know
Speaker 2: that if what's important to you changes later, then that's okay.
Speaker 2: You can always change the course.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: I needed that, Adam. Is there anything else you want
Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer before.
Speaker 3: We go.
Speaker 4: Smunk a lot of weed? It'll help.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling, Autumn.
Speaker 4: Of course, do you have a great one.
Speaker 2: That was interesting. I feel like I'm about to repeat
Speaker 2: everything I just said, but like, I've really been thinking
Speaker 2: a lot about what the point, like I said, with
Speaker 2: the fucking point of life is. And I have a
Speaker 2: complicated relationship with relationships. We get a lot of relationship
Speaker 2: stuff on this podcast. A lot of people having problems
Speaker 2: or having whatever the opposite of problems are with their
Speaker 2: romantic life. And some people's romantic lives make them very happy.
Speaker 2: Some people's romantic lives make them very sad. But I mean, look,
Speaker 2: if this girl goes and gets married to this guy,
Speaker 2: if she has a kid with him, that's a whole
Speaker 2: other thing. But if she just gets married to him,
Speaker 2: uh fuck man, I don't know. Maybe it makes her happy,
Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't. But if anything I think is important
Speaker 2: for her to know is that she can always change
Speaker 2: the course no matter what. So go with your gut.
Speaker 2: I suppose I don't know. Hello, Hello, Hey is this Jordan?
Speaker 3: They say, that's right?
Speaker 2: What's going on, Jordan?
Speaker 3: Nothing much? Just got off from a long day at work.
Speaker 2: What do you do for work?
Speaker 3: I actually work at a dispensary in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: They have dispensaries in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a medical dispensary.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, really, because how easy is it to get
Speaker 2: the med card?
Speaker 3: So it's honestly not that hard. You have to apply
Speaker 3: through the state and like prove that you have a
Speaker 3: medical need, and then once you apply with the state,
Speaker 3: you go to a doctor and then get certified through them.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's basically just a two part process
Speaker 3: where you get pay twice.
Speaker 2: What is the least severe medical issue I could claim
Speaker 2: to have to get a med card to Maryland?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I heard somebody just say back pain or headaches,
Speaker 3: even if they haven't had it like consistently. It ranges,
Speaker 3: But I think the least severe would either be like
Speaker 3: consistent knee pain or something like back pain something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess they can't really make you prove a
Speaker 2: headache because they can't like go into your head. Yeah, exactly, Jordan.
Speaker 2: It says here that you're haunted by one of your
Speaker 2: extra roommates. What's going on with this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I had a friend from high school. We
Speaker 3: had been friends for like ten years, and she when
Speaker 3: I moved home from college, I had started dating. If
Speaker 3: somebody moved in with them, we had been friends hanging
Speaker 3: out like every couple of weekends here and there, and
Speaker 3: when my ex and I broke up, I moved back
Speaker 3: into my mom's like empty house for a little bit
Speaker 3: before I like couch hopped for a bit, and she
Speaker 3: proposed the idea that we get a place together. At
Speaker 3: the time, she said she had an issue with her
Speaker 3: social security and I believed her just because she was
Speaker 3: a high school friend. We had been really close for
Speaker 3: a while, so she said she couldn't get her name
Speaker 3: on the leaf. So I was in a situation where
Speaker 3: I didn't really have anywhere to go. At that point,
Speaker 3: I took up a job at the teature and got
Speaker 3: the apartment, and she said that she would pay in everything,
Speaker 3: get her name Malise as soon as her social security
Speaker 3: issue was cleared up. Six months into it, like she
Speaker 3: moved in. I let her move in without giving me
Speaker 3: anything to start, which was my mistake. I was too trusting,
Speaker 3: and she immediately took the gym fobs. She wouldn't put
Speaker 3: it back on the common hook. She took the mailbox key,
Speaker 3: she wouldn't let me have that. It got to the
Speaker 3: point where six months in she still owed me eight
Speaker 3: hundred dollars, she wasn't really paying rent on time, and
Speaker 3: her cats were tearing the apartment up. And then I
Speaker 3: guess about four months before the end of the lease,
Speaker 3: she had almost called off was paying me out. She
Speaker 3: started acting really crazy, like I had surgery on the
Speaker 3: back of my head, and my family was over and
Speaker 3: she's fits saying they were too out and like how
Speaker 3: dare we come into the apartment like that? And then
Speaker 3: two nights later she had friends over until two in
Speaker 3: the morning on a work night for me, and very
Speaker 3: shortly thereafter, she moved all of her stuff out. She
Speaker 3: stole my mail, a bunch of my stuff, and she
Speaker 3: abandoned the so called lease, which her name really wasn't on.
Speaker 3: I was just letting her learn. And then she used
Speaker 3: the money that she should have paid rent with and
Speaker 3: bought a new Cameron And she's continuing to take pictures
Speaker 3: for all of our friends for like graduation, baby picture's
Speaker 3: weddings with that money.
Speaker 2: So how was this a two bedroom apartments and you
Speaker 2: just put your name on the lease for the whole thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did she ever pay you anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So she started paying me off the eight hundred initially,
Speaker 3: and then she was she was still like owing me
Speaker 3: like five hundred dollars, but she was paying ran consistently
Speaker 3: for a bit. Then all of a sudden she stopped
Speaker 3: paying and ditched.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So, all right, tell me what was your relationship
Speaker 2: like with this person before you moved in with her?
Speaker 2: Were you guys friends for a long time?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So we met in our freshman year of high school,
Speaker 3: and we had been friends since then. She had been
Speaker 3: friends over ten years and fifteen years ish, and we
Speaker 3: had been like we were people who texted every day.
Speaker 3: She was the person I would text and be like, Hey,
Speaker 3: you want to go to Target. We'd jump in the
Speaker 3: car run Target. Like. She was the person I went
Speaker 3: and got groceries with. We're really close. I went to
Speaker 3: all her family stuff. She called my brothers her brother
Speaker 3: like very intertwined, like all of our friends were the same.
Speaker 3: We were really close. And then it just flipped.
Speaker 2: So over the course of your ten year friendship with her,
Speaker 2: it says, you're you're twenty six, you know when you're
Speaker 2: like sixteen. Has she done anything like this at all?
Speaker 2: That found her character at all? This is the first
Speaker 2: time she's she's she's kind of screwed you over.
Speaker 3: This was the first time that she screwed me over.
Speaker 3: But I think, like I think she had more so
Speaker 3: screwed over like ex boyfriends, but never like friends or
Speaker 3: anyone close to her.
Speaker 2: Interesting, what do you what do you think it is
Speaker 2: then that that caused this like shift in personality to
Speaker 2: do this to you.
Speaker 3: Honestly, So the teaching job I took, she encouraged me
Speaker 3: to take that it was at the same school that
Speaker 3: she was in, but she wasn't a teacher. She was
Speaker 3: just an aide to one of the students in this school.
Speaker 3: And I think that when I started doing well there
Speaker 3: and really enjoying it, I don't know if she just
Speaker 3: felt invaded by me working in the same place and
Speaker 3: living with her, But again, she was the one who
Speaker 3: proposed like living together after working together as well, So
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what was going on there, But I
Speaker 3: really do think it is either a jealousy aspect or
Speaker 3: I or maybe she didn't have the money and she
Speaker 3: just thought that I'd be a good person to drag
Speaker 3: into it to take advantage of because a caring though.
Speaker 2: You know, so in the past, like have there been
Speaker 2: situations not where she's necessarily fucked you over, but where
Speaker 2: You've been generous to her, and she's maybe taken advantage
Speaker 2: of it, not that I.
Speaker 3: Can recall honestly, Like it all really started when we
Speaker 3: reconnected once I got back from like college, and after
Speaker 3: the breakup and everything, it just she she really it
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. I mean, I know she had
Speaker 3: some issues again with exes, but never with friends, and
Speaker 3: she was always very consistent with friends usually.
Speaker 2: And at the end of this, did she just completely
Speaker 2: ghost you or was there a moment of explosive tension?
Speaker 3: So she sent me a bunch of text messages and
Speaker 3: basically told me that.
Speaker 4: Like I was the.
Speaker 3: Reason all this was happening, and that I was inconsiderate
Speaker 3: of her. But I've reminded her again how I let
Speaker 3: her move in without paying anything. I let her pets
Speaker 3: live there when they weren't supposed to. She had people
Speaker 3: over all the time. I really kept to myself, and
Speaker 3: she was a very like as soon as anything happened
Speaker 3: in the house, if anything was off, she would immediately
Speaker 3: blow up. So I actually, for the entire period of
Speaker 3: living there, wouldn't even go in the kitchen, Like I
Speaker 3: never cooked there once because I was afraid of anything
Speaker 3: like going wrong with her because she just had a temper.
Speaker 2: Nothing really just fucking ruins a friendship more than living together.
Speaker 2: I've really just found then that to be true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely regret that for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you talk to her at all? Still?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: So she blocked me on everything immediately following that, Like
Speaker 3: she literally took my mail and I had to call
Speaker 3: it the post office and they did a search and
Speaker 3: they actually found it at her own like where she
Speaker 3: was living at the time. I guess where she had
Speaker 3: moved and like, oh, yeah, your old roommate had your mail.
Speaker 3: And I still have things like missing to this day
Speaker 3: that I can't find that I know she took. But
Speaker 3: I've seen my brother has seen her. She goes into
Speaker 3: the jet's office that he works at, but she will
Speaker 3: be real friendly with him, say hi. Nothing else. Nobody
Speaker 3: else really seems to see her besides, like my teacher
Speaker 3: friends still get photos done by her and everything.
Speaker 2: Are is any part of you going to attempt to
Speaker 2: go after her legally or just try to find her
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, you owe me these things or
Speaker 2: you know you don't have my stuff.
Speaker 3: I thought about it, like right now, I have a
Speaker 3: lot like going on health wise and like stress wise
Speaker 3: that I don't know if I could handle the additional
Speaker 3: stressor of it. But if it's given the opportunity when
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more like stable, then I would
Speaker 3: love to figure out my options with that, whether it
Speaker 3: be like small Quan's cord or I don't know what
Speaker 3: that would be. But she's like, because of her, I
Speaker 3: fell for a scammer. I'm like over seventy five one
Speaker 3: hundred dollars in debt because of it. Like I just,
Speaker 3: I was so desperate to pay off my debt that
Speaker 3: I became even more in debt. So I just I'm
Speaker 3: gonna stay under the radar for a bit until things
Speaker 3: clear up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, dude, I feel you. I feel it. I
Speaker 2: feel you when like the going after a conflict or
Speaker 2: or going after retribute becomes more of a of an
Speaker 2: issue than than to just let it be, you know,
Speaker 2: especially because it is it's taxing to hire a lawyer,
Speaker 2: go to the core, gather your evidence, like really build
Speaker 2: a case, do the things. It's a whole fucking thing.
Speaker 2: And I can totally understand weighing that against just dropping
Speaker 2: it and finding that dropping it is is better for
Speaker 2: your piece. I understand where that decision comes from. I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, how do you feel? Are you
Speaker 2: in like a mourning feeling at all? I mean a
Speaker 2: ten year friendship that ends like this just out of nowhere?
Speaker 2: Like how how does that feel? How are you what's
Speaker 2: going through your head about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: From all of this, Like I honestly, this is something
Speaker 3: that literally haunted me day to day, like me thinking
Speaker 3: about like what did I do wrong? Like uh, going
Speaker 3: over why I let her come in in the first
Speaker 3: place without paying things, like going over every action and
Speaker 3: every thought based off of that, and then like moving
Speaker 3: forward thinking about my interactions with people. It kind of
Speaker 3: I mean, it really does haunt me because I just
Speaker 3: don't know who I can trust. I mean I've met
Speaker 3: some really great people since they then, who understand and
Speaker 3: are a lot better friends than her. If I see
Speaker 3: any kind of sketchy behavior, I tend to dip out
Speaker 3: very quickly now. But yeah, it's constant anxiety from from that.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that this is so you're saying that
Speaker 2: this is this is influenced, you know, not just your
Speaker 2: relationship with this person, but just your overall trust levels
Speaker 2: and weariness of being taken advantage of in general.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, again, this is somebody that I
Speaker 3: let into my family, Like she came to all of
Speaker 3: the family birthday party, she came on vacations with us,
Speaker 3: like that was a long friendship. And she watched another
Speaker 3: one of our high school friendships dissolve and was like that,
Speaker 3: I'd never want that to happen to us. So that's
Speaker 3: something that I thought would never happen. But again, like that,
Speaker 3: that's what threw me off so much because of that
Speaker 3: was something I never in a million years. Guest, we
Speaker 3: had literally like not on purpose, but we accidentally have
Speaker 3: matching tattoos because I got mine from my grandmother who
Speaker 3: was born on Saint Pathrick' Day and she was born
Speaker 3: on Saint Patrick's Day. So yeah, like we have tattoos
Speaker 3: that are matching.
Speaker 2: Well well, Jordan, Yeah, it's it's just I mean, this
Speaker 2: is an interesting thing because it's like, on one hand,
Speaker 2: if for you, being generous, being trusting is just important
Speaker 2: to you as you move through life, I feel like it's, yes,
Speaker 2: it's you know, important to stay true to that, but
Speaker 2: it's hard, it's very hard to balance that with Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's important to me to be trusting and generous to
Speaker 2: people to one of my values. But also I don't
Speaker 2: want to get fucked you know. Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 4: It's hard.
Speaker 2: It's hard to balance that, it really is. I don't
Speaker 2: have a solution for that, but I you know, at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, you know, it's good that
Speaker 2: your your it's it's nice that you have that generous spirit,
Speaker 2: and I hope that you find a way to continue
Speaker 2: to tap into that in but in uh in in
Speaker 2: in maybe more calculated ways then letting people live with
Speaker 2: you without being on the lease.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: And Hey, I'm gonna try to come see you in
Speaker 3: d C. So I hope to see you soon. I
Speaker 3: really appreciate you taking my call and everything too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for sharing your story. And I'm hot
Speaker 2: fucking ce in d C too. That'll be that'll be
Speaker 2: crazy with the Miracle Theater, four hundred people. You can
Speaker 2: you can watch me ship my fucking pants directly on
Speaker 2: the stage as I.
Speaker 3: Walk out right there with you, So prep yourself.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go, Jordan.
Speaker 3: No, everybody, have a good night, stay chill, have a
Speaker 3: good night.
Speaker 2: Thanks calling.
Speaker 3: Thanks gat kind of good night.
Speaker 2: Yes, an interesting one. I've dealt with shit like that
Speaker 2: all the like, not dealt with but like I should,
Speaker 2: I guess possibly sometimes dealt with personally, but gotten calls
Speaker 2: like that a lot where somebody does something nice and
Speaker 2: then fucking backfires on them. And I'm trying to think like,
Speaker 2: because you can go to two ways with that, where
Speaker 2: you can go, Okay, I'm never gonna do anything nice
Speaker 2: for anyone ever again because the last time I did,
Speaker 2: I got fucked over and I'm just done. Or you
Speaker 2: can be like, you know what, actually fuck them because
Speaker 2: they're trying to get me. They win if I do that.
Speaker 2: You know, if I stop being nice to people because
Speaker 2: this one person fucks me over, then they win. I'm
Speaker 2: not giving this person the power to change my character
Speaker 2: toe how I interact with people. I don't think either
Speaker 2: of those two options is the wrong one, but it's
Speaker 2: interesting to think about because I I really don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a tough situation. Hello, Hello, how's it going.
Speaker 5: I'm doing well? How are you wile?
Speaker 2: I am okay? What's going on with you?
Speaker 5: Heck yeah, doing good, feeling good? It's got all A
Speaker 5: bike run by I mean, it's not a run. I'm
Speaker 5: on a bike, so using a bike.
Speaker 2: Okay, that made a little bit of sense. What's is
Speaker 2: there anything in particularly calls that you talk about.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean a particular scenario that I found myself.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've been dating this girl for a while,
Speaker 5: it's like four weeks about a month, really cool, kicking
Speaker 5: it off, been having a good time. But every so
Speaker 5: often we hang out, ends up bringing up that she
Speaker 5: wants to punch my balls, and like, at first it
Speaker 5: was like, oh, okay, ha, like it's funny, like so
Speaker 5: with the demeanor, the delivery awesome. But it's consistently being
Speaker 5: brought up each time we hang out, and I'm unclear
Speaker 5: on whether I should be concerned of a surprise attack
Speaker 5: or she'll respect my boundaries and say until I'm ready
Speaker 5: for such things.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're concerned about whether or not she will just
Speaker 2: surprise attack your balls.
Speaker 5: I mean that, and also just to carry the amount
Speaker 5: of the amount of want to put such an action
Speaker 5: into effect.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, have you expressed to her that you
Speaker 2: do not want her to to punch you in the balls?
Speaker 5: Oh definitely, yeah. Yeah, It's like, yeah, I'll say I'll
Speaker 5: let her. I told her. I was like, Man, until
Speaker 5: I feel I'm ready, I'll let you know for sure.
Speaker 5: Although John, a little surprise attack I'm having me on the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, John, have you told her that makes you uncomfortable
Speaker 2: when she asks you to punch your balls?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know if I'm like totally put
Speaker 5: off because I enjoy hanging out with her.
Speaker 2: John, you're calling a gecko on the internet to tell
Speaker 2: him that you're uncomfortable with this girl, Uh, saying that
Speaker 2: she wants to punch your balls?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I don't want my balls punched.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you so have you really? Yeah? Have you?
Speaker 2: Have you really honestly expressed this to her honestly?
Speaker 5: Like sit down and be like a yo, like I
Speaker 5: don't know if Oh no, I don't know. I definitely
Speaker 5: know that I don't want you to punch me in
Speaker 5: the balls right now, and so I hope you can
Speaker 5: respect that. And I'm sure she could, although like anyone
Speaker 5: else with such a desire, it's still gonna sit in
Speaker 5: the back. So it's just like keeping me all my
Speaker 5: toes is all, keeping me all my toes with it.
Speaker 5: I'm sure she could respect it. Although it's like mm hmm,
Speaker 5: there's definitely a good want to do it for sure, John.
Speaker 5: I mean, as a gecko, do you get hit in
Speaker 5: the ball? I don't know about the getto.
Speaker 2: Thing, John, John, are you are you genuinely afraid that
Speaker 2: this girl is gonna punch you in the balls?
Speaker 5: I'm concerned for sure.
Speaker 2: If she does not respect the boundaries that you have
Speaker 2: set between her fists and your balls. Mm hmm, then
Speaker 2: then she is not the one for you, John.
Speaker 5: Okay, No, yeah, definitely that's a good it's a good
Speaker 5: way of putting it. I just hardly. I just think
Speaker 5: it's someone you're just telling me wholesomely of such a
Speaker 5: scenario because he's trying to bring it up like ha
Speaker 5: ha ha. But no one's like a yo.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is you're and you're you're like
Speaker 2: passing this off as a joke, but you are you're
Speaker 2: afraid that this woman is going to find the balls? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: beyond just be honest with her, John, tell her that
Speaker 2: you will never be interested in that. Tell her stop
Speaker 2: bringing it up, and hopefully she will. Then you know,
Speaker 2: you reevaluate the relationship.
Speaker 5: Most definitely, and it's a good portion of time to
Speaker 5: do that, you know, month in gouts sem my boundaries
Speaker 5: right away, Yes you do. Yeah, thank you John.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to like?
Speaker 5: Ultimately good?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 2: of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm that I feel like you don't get enough
Speaker 5: credit for how handsome you are ultomely.
Speaker 2: That's very sweet that you say, especially as a good group.
Speaker 2: Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 5: Of course, and thank you. Take care of John, you too,
Speaker 5: have a good night, love, bye bye.
Speaker 2: John said he was twenty six on the call screen.
Speaker 2: Anything he is not twenty six. Maybe he is. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know why I said that. I
Speaker 2: don't know what a twenty six year old sounds like.
Speaker 5: EVERYTHNK goes on the line taking your phone calls.
Speaker 2: Every nine ever goes and I'm just teaching you the line.
Speaker 2: But he's not
Speaker 5: Really an expert though,