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Speaker 2: tonight as we kick over to Carson and Logan, I

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Speaker 2: am this draft is loaded with a bunch of interesting storylines. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: There's some good ones. I kind of think that you

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is exceedingly rare that you see a

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Speaker 1: Honestly, if I'm the Nets, I'm going volume shooter mode.

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Speaker 2: have to. Make. Well Cooper flag is officially A Dallas.

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Speaker 2: MAVERICK i am particularly, excited even though this roster makes

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Speaker 2: how to play basketball at his own. Pace if you

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Speaker 2: did that To, cooper he would go, insane like he

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Speaker 2: Cooper moore as a ball, handler WHICH i think is

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Speaker 2: About let's kick To jackson for a. Second, jackson what

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Speaker 4: MAVERICKS i think that HE i think for the short

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Speaker 4: term it's definitely a little awkward the fact that they HAVE. Pj,

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Speaker 4: Washing Cooper, Flag Anthony, Davis Daniel, gaffard And Derek, lively

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Speaker 4: AWESOME i, Mean i'm extremely as high On Cooper flags

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Speaker 4: as everybody else. SAYS i do think his best position

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Speaker 4: like how quickly does that happen for them on that

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Speaker 4: DEFENSIVELY i think you want him as more of a

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Speaker 4: i think is the only sort of question For dallas

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Speaker 4: and for his. Development BUT i completely agree that he.

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Speaker 4: Is it's crazy how ready he. Is it seems like

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Speaker 4: Rookies right he is a child basically as. Eighteen he

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Speaker 4: should not even be in THE nba this coming, season

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Speaker 4: and he it feels, like by all, accounts he's going

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Speaker 2: I that's specifically a trait that we've noticed With cooper

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Speaker 2: it's just every time you put him into a higher leverage,

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Speaker 2: that he's not theoretically ready, for but like he just

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Speaker 2: Ass like he's just he's been putting a bunch of

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Speaker 2: really tough. Spots he like straight up competed WITH nba

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Speaker 2: players over the summer in The olympics. Prep i've been

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Speaker 2: super super impressed by. Him, logan what are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: DALLAS i want to touch on some of The jackson

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Speaker 1: just Mentioned with their roster, CONSTRUCTION i Think dallas is

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Speaker 1: in a really enviable. Position you, know you're talking about

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Speaker 1: that kind of clogged up front cork That dallas, has

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about them not having ball handlers one

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Speaker 1: which you just Mentioned. JASON i think it's going to

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Speaker 1: opportunity presents. Itself but there's never a problem having this

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Speaker 1: much talent because Ultimately dallas gets to flip these guys

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Speaker 1: for whatever they. WANT i think the long term, answer

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Speaker 1: like you guys have Mentioned flag at the four ad

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Speaker 1: at the, FIVE i think it's the best and just

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Speaker 1: easiest fit for, switchability for spreading out the offense to

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Speaker 1: Flip gafford AND.

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Speaker 1: WASHINGTON i, mean that seems like the most logical thing

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Speaker 3: Bended gafford though for three years sixty.

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Speaker 2: Million well that means get a bit of clarification on that,

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Speaker 2: front that it's like actually fifty four and that the

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Speaker 2: other six million are unlikely, incentives and so his contract

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Speaker 2: is still. Tradeable i'm not one hundred percent sure about,

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Speaker 2: that BUT i believe he is still. Tradable but, anyway go,

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Speaker 1: ANSWER i think you flipped these they're very valuable commodities

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Speaker 1: and they're expendable to you now that you Have, Cooper

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Speaker 1: flag And ad like they lucked out in this, situation

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Speaker 1: BUT i think they're gonna BE i think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a really easy time flipping these guys into assets

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Speaker 1: that they need BECAUSE i think a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: should be interested in WHAT. Pj washington brings to the,

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Speaker 1: table What gafford brings to the. Table and now for the,

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Speaker 1: future you've Got flag And, lively who are one hell

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Speaker 1: of a front court, duo and you've Got ad And

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Speaker 1: kyrie who can help you. Win, NOW i just think

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Speaker 1: And clay. TOO i think the mass of lucked, out

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Speaker 1: some people are expecting filling out the rest of this.

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Speaker 1: Roster so let's start.

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Speaker 2: Here, Cars i'm gonna kick it to you like. This

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Speaker 2: it's like this scene From The Dark knight where The

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Speaker 2: joker breaks the POOL q in half and hands it

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Speaker 2: to the two. Dudes Both cooper And ad want to

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Speaker 2: play power. Forward who ends up winning the battle for

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Speaker 3: Dallas it should Be flag at the four And ad

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Speaker 3: at the. FIVE i know That ad has this obsession

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Speaker 3: with playing the, four BUT i just think he is

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Speaker 3: so much more effective offensively when he can play in

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Speaker 3: that spaced out environment and he's not forced to play

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Speaker 3: from the perimeter. More and then, defensively this guy has

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Speaker 3: shown a million times over that he's more than capable

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Speaker 3: of being an elite anchor at the. Five SO i

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Speaker 3: totally agree with What logan was. SAYING i think it

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Speaker 3: should Be flag at the four And ad at the,

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Speaker 3: five and that's gonna be one of the best defensive

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Speaker 3: duos in basketball, immediately even when they Go flag at the,

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Speaker 3: Three ad at the, four and one of these bigs

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Speaker 3: at the. Five, like is there outside Of Oklahoma city

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Speaker 3: going to be a better defense in basketball next year Than?

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Speaker 3: DALLAS i don't think. So like that, length that, size that,

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Speaker 3: rebounding that aggregate rim protection in the front, court it is.

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Speaker 3: Stupid And flag obviously has all the mobility to guard

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Speaker 3: on the. Perimeter he's most impactful as that helper In,

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Speaker 3: romer but just a freak all around.

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Speaker 2: Talent.

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Speaker 3: MAN i totally agree with, You jason when you say

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Speaker 3: he is uniquely well, equipped even for a number one overall,

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Speaker 3: that do it all wing for a team that wants to,

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Speaker 3: contend because he checks all the. Boxes he has the field,

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Speaker 3: offensively he has the off ball, scoring he has the,

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Speaker 3: transition he has the ball handling and playmaking and doses

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Speaker 3: at the very, least and then defensively is going to

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Speaker 3: be so insanely. Impactful the guy's just a. Winner the

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Speaker 3: floor is crazy, high and the ceiling is really high,

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Speaker 3: too but it's that floor that is immediately going to

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Speaker 3: be so. IMPACTFUL i think it'll be a top fifty

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Speaker 2: Dallas, yeah to your, point we've seen number one overall

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Speaker 2: picks Like Anthony Edward words who are bona fide won't

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Speaker 2: number one overall types of talent that, has you, know

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Speaker 2: come to fruition over. Time but it would have been

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Speaker 2: a terrible option In dallas as a. Rookie he would

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Speaker 2: have been such a poor. Fit you, know he's so

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Speaker 2: undisciplined off ball as a defender and so screenable on

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Speaker 2: ball and all that kind of Stuff cooper can right,

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Speaker 2: Away Like cooper could legitimately start for any team in

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Speaker 2: THE nba, tomorrow like he's so he's so. Versatile, POSITIONALLY

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Speaker 2: i do agree with all the points That jackson's, making

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Speaker 2: essentially that like when you play the three instead of the,

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Speaker 2: that you're putting to, bigger, slower less skilled players in

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Speaker 2: front of him in the front. Court and SO i

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Speaker 2: think that's ultimately where it. Goes but what'll probably end

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Speaker 2: up happening is it'll Be Anthony davis in one center

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Speaker 2: they kind of oscillate back and forth between the. Two

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Speaker 2: but then they'll close games routinely With cooper And ad

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Speaker 2: at the. Five when the time, comes our number two

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Speaker 2: overall pick is, In Dylan harper has gone to The

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Speaker 2: San Antonio. Spurs so we conceptualize this idea That San,

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Speaker 2: antonio even though they're making the talent play, here going

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Speaker 2: for the best player. Available AND i Had Sam vessini

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Speaker 2: on the show On, tuesday And sam had talked about

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Speaker 2: how he sees a substantial drop off from number two

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Speaker 2: to number three moving forward in the draft from this

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Speaker 2: point in terms of just you, know risk associated with

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Speaker 2: some of these guys reaching their top. End but there

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Speaker 2: is a window of opportunity for San antonio over time

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Speaker 2: to continue to pivot to make changes along the. Way

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Speaker 2: they have another pick coming later in the first. Round

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Speaker 2: so my question for you will go to You, logan

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Speaker 2: if you're Keeping dylan in the short, term how does

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Speaker 2: this work in terms of the basketball trying to work Alongside,

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Speaker 2: fox Alongside victor Wemban yama in this, system it's.

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Speaker 1: The question after you make this. Pick me And carson

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Speaker 1: have talked about this recently on a couple of our.

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Speaker 1: make it viable with all of them all downhill guards

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Speaker 1: who need the ball in their, hands and you've got

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Speaker 1: questions maybe About castle's, Jumper you've got questions About harper's.

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Speaker 1: Jumper to, me it's kind of what you were saying

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Speaker 1: before we got this thing, Started. JASON i think you're

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Speaker 1: and move off of one of these. GUARDS i think

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Speaker 1: the odd man out Is Dearn, fox and it's nothing Against.

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Speaker 1: FOX i think he's a very talented. PLAYER i think

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Speaker 1: he's A i think it was a good move For

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Speaker 1: San antonio to do what they did last, Season LIKE

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Speaker 1: i think it made, Sense BUT i Like harper And

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Speaker 1: castle's long term upside. MORE i think that they're going

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Speaker 1: to be ready to go and win quicker than people,

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Speaker 1: expect AND i just think those are the guys That

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Speaker 1: i'd rather build. AROUND i Think, fox as much as

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Speaker 1: we can look at the raw, NUMBERS i Think fox

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Speaker 1: has his own. Flaw if it's defensively really being. Committed

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Speaker 1: and you know, What i'll give him some grace with.

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Speaker 1: That right he was In. Sacramento that's not the best.

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Speaker 1: SITUATION i think San, antonio he can be committed to

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Speaker 1: actually working on that. End But fox doesn't get downhill

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Speaker 1: as much as he used. TO i cided this stat

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Speaker 1: on our last shows his rim attempts have had since

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Speaker 1: the peak that they were at in twenty. Twenty he's

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Speaker 1: so relyingt on that. JUMPER i just don't think he's

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Speaker 1: as impactful as he could be if he really weaponized

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Speaker 1: JASON i don't really know how it's viable with all

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Speaker 1: three of these. GUYS i don't think it really works right.

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Speaker 1: NOW i think it's going to be clunky and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to pick who you go. With BUT i

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Speaker 1: don't think you can pass Up Dylan. Harper And i'm

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Speaker 1: just higher On harper And castle long term Than. Fox

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Speaker 4: OUT i Think fox is the odd man out because

431
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 4: of it feels Like castle also is the one who

432
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 4: needs the ball in his hands the. Least it feels

433
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: like he could fit the best alongside either of the

434
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 4: Of harper Or, fox so he feels like he's squarely

435
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 4: as part of their, core unless, that you, know there's

436
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 4: A yiannis. Trade BUT i ALSO i think that IT'LL

437
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 4: i think it'll be really interesting to see what happens

438
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 4: in the first half of the, season because if they're

439
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 4: good right, away if they're, like, okay we're above five hundred,

440
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 4: immediately then it's kind of hard to move off Of Darren.

441
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 4: Fox but if they're kind of around five hundred or

442
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 4: and then if The bucks sort of aren't as good

443
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 4: and The yiannis trade becomes more available than it seems

444
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 4: like it is right, NOW i actually Think fox could

445
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 4: be an interesting player to in a trade for Ge,

446
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 4: honest if The bucks end up end up making a

447
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: move like. That because The bucks don't own their picks

448
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: for a few, years they need to be semi not,

449
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: terrible and so Darreon fox would at least along with

450
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 4: a bunch of other. Picks, obviously it's not Just Darren

451
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 4: fox would would sort of accomplish that better Than harper

452
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 4: Or castle.

453
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: Would there are some numbers with uh With, harper specifically

454
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: with unguarded catch and shoot shooting that are. Good it's

455
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: part of the reason Why i'm encouraged about his ability

456
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: to become a better jump. Shitter we've seen this archetype

457
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: so many times in the past where the dude who's

458
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: the ball handler can knock down off the dribble jump,

459
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: shots but he can't hit off the catch because he

460
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: just never practiced off the catch in his entire. Childhood

461
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: he had to create every shot for. Everybody there's never

462
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: an opportunity for him to like really learn how to

463
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: be an off ball catch and shoot. Player Dylan harper's

464
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: kind of the exact, opposite where he's an on ball,

465
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: player but his shot release is so in front of

466
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: his face and it's a little drawn out and it's

467
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: a little, hitchy and so off the dribble he's his

468
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 2: energy transfer is poor and every shot looks a little,

469
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: different and so he's not very consistent. There but then

470
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: when he's wide opening catch and shoot, situations he hit

471
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: over half of his threes this, year which is a

472
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: sign of a very good touch in those sorts of.

473
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: Situations so that's going to be really the key is

474
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: whether or not he can actually figure out the off

475
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: ball piece and then in the short term and then

476
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 2: in the law long term put together on the ball.

477
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,680
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Speaker 2: Channel, carson what's your take On Dealan harper fitting with

488
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: the Spurg just to.

489
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: Add to that point a little, BIT i also think

490
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: that we've seen flashes of him off, ball attacking close.

491
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: OUTS i think we've seen flashes of him. Cutting so

492
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 3: obviously this is a guy who is primarily going to

493
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: play with the ball in his. Hands that's where he's

494
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: at his most. Lethal BUT i do think there are

495
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: some positive indicators for him being solid off, Ball and

496
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: then in terms of the pull up. Jumper agree with.

497
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: YOU i also do think That we've definitely seen the

498
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: shot creation, ability the ability to create, space the, footwork

499
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 3: the step, backs, like that's all. There so it's really

500
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: just the mechanics and the consistency of the pull up jumper.

501
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: Itself but, man he just does so much THAT i. Love,

502
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 3: yeah the fit is definitely. Weird one of these three

503
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: guards is going to be. GONE i would be fine

504
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: with it being Either fox Or. Castle i'm not as

505
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 3: high On castle as some, maybe even THOUGH i do like,

506
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: HIM i just think there's still a lot of questions.

507
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 3: There you make a good, Point jackson in that he

508
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: is the guy who is going to do the most

509
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: things to impact the game without the, ball being an

510
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: elite rebounding guard, talent having the defensive potential that he.

511
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: Does but until he becomes a dramatically better catch and,

512
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 3: shooter if he ever becomes, that, like you're still gonna

513
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: have some questions about playing him off ball and what

514
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: kind of value he can deliver. There But harper's the

515
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: guy Who i'm going all in. On like, again just

516
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: this level of rim, pressure, finishing foul, drawing, playmaking protecting the.

517
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: Basketball at the level he, DOES i think he'll become

518
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: an average pull up shooter and a solid overall jump.

519
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: Shooter and if he gets, there you're looking at An All.

520
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: Star you're looking at a guy who maybe could be

521
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: on the fringes of ALL nba, conversations and there's not

522
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: another talent like that in this. Class after obviously flag.

523
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: The shooting is actually they just get our first.

524
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: Shams our first shams were going, here and then the

525
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: pick was in as. Well that The sixers are keeping

526
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 4: the pick and they're DRAFTING Vj edge right.

527
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: On so no, trade no trade to get off of

528
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: The george really, Quickly carson before we move on TO VJ.

529
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: H the separation is the more important. Piece there are

530
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: a lot of guys who can shoot in THE, nba

531
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: and they can't get to their. Spots and LIKE i,

532
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: mean if we haven't seen that on display in this,

533
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: postseason like the guys that can get to their spots

534
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: against athleticism and physicality is just so. Valuable and the

535
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: touch is, there the footwork's, there the handles. There he's

536
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: just got to improve his you, know energy transfer from

537
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: the ground up a little bit, quicker a little. Bit

538
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: crisper shoots the ball up a little bit more instead

539
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: of out so far AND i think he'll put it all.

540
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: TOGETHER i think that potential is. There SO. Vj edgecombe

541
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: to The philadelphia seventy Six, ers a team that already

542
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: Has jared McCain And Tyrese Maxey. Logan what's your take

543
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 2: on getting? This, uh you, know obviously not an on ball,

544
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: guard but a guy who, plays in my, opinion at

545
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: THE nba level of two to fit inside The sixers

546
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: big picture.

547
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: Plans So i'll preface this by SAYING i agree with

548
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: whoever said there's a little bit of a drop off

549
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: between two and, three BUT i still LOVE.

550
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: Vj.

551
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: Edgecombe the question marks with him is going to be

552
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: how great he can be in the half court and

553
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: what he does for your. Spacing he shot forty three

554
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: percent on unguarded catch and shoot, jumpers SO i think

555
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: there is shooting. UPSIDE i don't hate to. STROKE i

556
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a good shooter one, day

557
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: but like you, mentioned he does everything. Else it's such

558
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: a high level That i'm confident he's going to have

559
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: a winning impact where, DEFENSIVELY i think he's going to

560
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: be a. Problem he's a supreme. Athlete the dude has

561
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: springs attached to his, shoes just ridiculous bounce WHERE i

562
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a really good transition. Score

563
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: and then the big thing is defense and, rebounding a

564
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: tremendous rebounder for a. Guard and so WHEN i look

565
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: at what The sixers have right, NOW i just think

566
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: they're in best player available. Mode i'm gonna be, Honest

567
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: i'm not super optimistic About philadelphia being competitive in this window.

568
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: Whatsoever you guys know. ME i gave up On Joel

569
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: embiid a long time. Ago i'm pretty much out On Paul.

570
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: George SO i don't think That philadelphia really has a

571
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: real opportunity to compete in The east unless everything falls their.

572
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: Way SO i think they should take the best player,

573
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: available AND i do think That's, edgecombe BUT i do

574
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: think he can do some winning things for. Them they've

575
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: got the scoring punch With. Embiid, theoretically If Paul george

576
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: returns to what he can, be he could be a solid.

577
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: Three maxi is a beast and he's a. Score so it's,

578
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: like you don't need more scoring. Punch you need guys

579
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: who can do the little, things AND i Think edgecomb

580
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: can immediately do, that but does have long term all

581
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: star upside with his athletic, Profile i'm concerned about him

582
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: being an on ball creator in. Score that's not really

583
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: his role to. ME i think he's gonna be a

584
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: really good closeout attack or an off ball. SCORE i

585
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: think that's more his, role, cutting, relocating dribble hand off

586
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: stuff like. That BUT i think you kind of get

587
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds WITH. VJ i think that

588
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: he can give you a little bit of a winning

589
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: impact now with the little things that he, does but

590
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: he does have all star upside long term For.

591
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 4: Philadelphia, yeah you know after, WHAT i, Agree, NO i

592
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: was gonna, SAY i. Agree but the question for their

593
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: FUTURE i think is, what, like how does these these

594
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: three small guards all fit. TOGETHER vj is the biggest

595
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: and the he's a super, athlete he's long, arms BUT

596
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: maxi is small and McCain is, small which is why

597
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: you're probably not saying those two are our back court

598
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: of the, future just those, two but considering how good

599
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: McCain was before he got, hurt he was unbelievable before

600
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: he got, hurt and so it is a little bit of,

601
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 4: like how do these three players fit in two? Spots

602
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: kind of BECAUSE i don't THINK. Vj we'll, see BUT

603
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 4: i don't Think vj's athleticism is enough to make up

604
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: for him only being six or four in terms of

605
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: playing the three alongside those. Guys but, OVERALL i do

606
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: think he's PROBABLY i. DO i agree that he was

607
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: the third best player in the, draft SO i think

608
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: you gotta just go best, player AND i do think

609
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: he's a very.

610
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: Real quick would you would you slot McCain in at

611
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: the sixth man? SPOT i feel like that's kind of

612
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: the LOGICAL i WOULD i.

613
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: Do it does feel like it's he's the sixth man,

614
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: there like from a long term, perspective and it feels

615
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: like his game is kind of six, many but it's

616
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: it's a little that will be the big question for

617
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: their for their second of the. Timeline not the.

618
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Two small guards that are looking to score the basketball

619
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: can't really share the floor in a, serious big picture,

620
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: context and maybe that's a big picture of the decision

621
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: they have to make with respect To TYRESE. MAXI i

622
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: THINK vj is a Player i'm particularly excited about after

623
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: having watched this last, postseason and we just see how

624
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: important it is to have a guard who can guard his.

625
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: Position but also guard up a little. Bit it can

626
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: cover ground in, rotation crack, down, rebound fly up and

627
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: down the, floor and. TRANSITION i actually do Think vj's

628
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: got some high level close out attacking moves that he

629
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: will be able to. Access over the, Years we've seen

630
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: flashes of, it you, know a euro step, there turn,

631
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: around fade away. HERE i after we just Watched Aaron

632
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: nesmith fell a very valuable role for An Indiana pacers

633
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: team that made it deep into the, postseason you, know

634
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: one win away from the championship and be like downright

635
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: super impactful at. Stretches, Now aaron's, bigger BUT i think

636
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: that edgecomb kind of just fits that mold of to

637
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: do everything wing in THE nba at the two guard.

638
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: Spot he just has to fit into the two guard.

639
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: Spot what's your, Take?

640
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: CARSON i, AGREE i think that short, term long, term

641
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: this is the right. Pick this is just the best

642
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: talent on the board and kind of something of a

643
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: life raft For. PHILLY i still think that they're in

644
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: a tough, spot but this was the safest. Pick this

645
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: is the guy, who, yeah can do things to contribute

646
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: now in that all around wing archetype that you're talking About.

647
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: JASON i, mean he's like a uniquely good offensive rebounding,

648
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: guard great springing, this and really good feel like you

649
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: see the connective. Passing that's exciting for a guy who's

650
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: gonna be playing for a team, that, ostensibly if they're,

651
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: healthy is trying to, win and he's gonna be in

652
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: a scale down. Role BUT i think that suits him

653
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 3: because of the clothes out, attacking because of the shooting

654
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: off the, catch and then, defensively he's good defending at

655
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: the point of. Attack he's really good forcing. Steals he's

656
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: pretty darn good as a rim protecting guy for his,

657
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: size so he's gonna make plays in every phase of the,

658
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: game gonna get to the rim a hell of a,

659
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: Lot and, yeah there are things that he needs to,

660
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: refine got to be more efficient as a. Finisher he

661
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: shot forty four percent on, layups so that's obviously not

662
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: gonna cut. It and THEN i do think that you

663
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: want to see the, handle you want to see the

664
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: pull up shooting improve for sure in terms of his

665
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: long term, upside but that's not really gonna be his

666
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: role in the short. Term he's going to be trying

667
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: to do those winning things AND i think that he

668
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: can do. That BUT i do really like. HIM i

669
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: think he is a real quality starter with fringe star

670
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: kind outside and just a really good all around wing

671
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: prospect for a team that desperately needs.

672
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: That if you're in a position Like philly's in where

673
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: you're kind of old and banged up in your star,

674
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: corps you want to be anchored by younger players that

675
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: can play smaller roles and, athletes and THAT'S vj just

676
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: crosses all of those. Boxes and then you add the

677
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: legitimate upside that he. Has and, again LIKE i Don't

678
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: i'm with, you, GUYS i don't think he's going to

679
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: be some you, know super high volume on ball. GUARD

680
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: i think that's unlikely at this, point but there is

681
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: some upside there with his. Athleticism you Can i've said

682
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: this About Jalen, Green i've said this About Jonathan. Kminga

683
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: it's really hard for me for me not to bet

684
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: on like LEGITIMATE a plus. Athletes and that's not to

685
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: say that guys Of green Or commed like GUYS A

686
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: green or comingo would be much better off in THE

687
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: nba if they were to embrace more of A. Vj

688
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: edgecombe role player type of, archetype but there is legitimate

689
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: upside in a player that can get to his. Spots

690
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: the number four pick is in, me The Charlotte hornets

691
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: Taking Kank nipple from do big, shooter off ball scoring,

692
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: weapon underrated defensive player on a team that has a

693
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 2: lot of guys that like to have the ball in their,

694
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: hands it seems like it makes a lot of. Sense,

695
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: jackson what's your take on con going To? CHARLOTTE i

696
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: think he.

697
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: Is he has a lot OF nba ready. Skills is

698
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: he ready for THE? NBA i don't. Know he has

699
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: a lot OF nba ready, skills and in that, SENSE

700
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: i ALMOST i thought he would have been actually a

701
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: good fit With philly as, well and The hornets feel

702
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: like they're a long ways away from being a relevant basketball.

703
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: Team BUT i do think he's very. Solid watching, him

704
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: and you, know his sort of archetype of white shooter type.

705
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: Player they're not as commonly six, seven so the fact

706
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: that he's six to SEVEN i think goes a long.

707
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: WAY i like his Patience, offensively he does a lot

708
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: of that playingoff two feet pump. Faking it's Not Jalen

709
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: brunson really, ish but it has some sort of. Similar

710
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: once he gets his feet in the, pain he's going

711
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: to be very patient.

712
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: Make the right.

713
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: PLAY i think he has a lot OF i think

714
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: he's going to be a really, impactful winning basketball, PLAYER i,

715
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: think AND i think he's sort of you, know with

716
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: his basketball. Family it feels like he's a little bit

717
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 4: more of an adult than some of the other guys

718
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: on The hornets roster and guys of their you, know

719
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: GUYS i like to, Draft so from that, SENSE i

720
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: think it's a good fit for.

721
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: Them it's a little.

722
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: Hot this feels like a, yeah this feels like a

723
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: really safe pick For. Charlotte carson AND i did our

724
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: mock draft not that long, ago and we mocked his

725
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: duke Teammate maluwach to The, hornets WHICH i thought made more.

726
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: SENSE i guess The hornets are holding on to This

727
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: mark William stock and they think he's going to be

728
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: their big man of the, future is WHAT i glean from.

729
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: This like, yeah, yeah Like Carmelo Anthony Atlanta hawks. LEGEND

730
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: i Think kannupple's really. SOLID i think he is an

731
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: uber talented off ball. Score the way this guy finds,

732
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: space he is constantly moving and relocating great when the

733
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: defender turns his back to him and cutting off of

734
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: that coming off, screens some of the ghost screen. Stuff

735
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: he does pick and, popping and he's a really good

736
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: spot up, player an elite catching. SHOOTER i think he's

737
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: got tremendous coordination and footwar and he's got a quick.

738
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Trigger he shot forty one percent in the mid, range

739
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: just under forty one percent from. Deep he shot ninety

740
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: one percent from the line and had a true shooting

741
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: percentage of sixty four. Percent, like the guy's got elite,

742
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: touch AND i think he's got a little bit more

743
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: on ball juice than some people give him credit.

744
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: For.

745
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: Now he's not like special, there BUT i THINK i

746
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: think he's got a little bit of juice. There he's

747
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: slow and, Methodical i'll say. That you, know he's not

748
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: got a lot of, pop but he's. Crafty he's got

749
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: some change in. Pace in, college it was using quickness

750
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: against bigs and then strength against smaller. Defenders and you,

751
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: know he's got pump, fakes. RIPBRUS i think he's got

752
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of feel out of pick and, roll

753
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: SO i think there's some upside. There and then the fit. Here,

754
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: yeah another good shooter off ball For LaMelo. BALL i

755
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: just my thing with this pick, again it's very. SAFE

756
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: i Think kannupple is gonna be a, good SOLID nba.

757
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: PLAYER i come back to two questions with The, hornets

758
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: who the hell is going to play defense for? Them

759
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: and why they keep passing up rock solid defensive prospects

760
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: Like clinging last year AND i really Liked malu watch this.

761
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: Year for, them it's just getting a defensive. Anchor SO

762
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: i like the, pick BUT i don't love it. Certainly,

763
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: YEAH i think.

764
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: That's safe is a good word for. IT i think

765
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: that con is an extremely high floor offensive, Player like

766
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: he's a top two shooter in the, class and he

767
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: knows how to weaponize that you guys have mentioned if

768
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: it's screening for other, guards if it's, relocating and he

769
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: really knows how to leverage that shooting threat, Too like

770
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 3: this is a guy who playing off the, catch playing

771
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: coming around to, screen is capable of knocking down those

772
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: two point jumpers getting into the lane playing off two

773
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: feet like you Mentioned, Jackson and, yeah he does have

774
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: pretty solid passing. Feel there's a lot that you know

775
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: is going to translate. Offensively is the ceiling high enough,

776
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 3: though when you're looking at now a defensive back court

777
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: Of LaMelo ball and Con kannepel, LIKE i don't like

778
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: that long term. Now the one thing that they have

779
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: is solid size as a, backcourt but still Like kannepple six'

780
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: five with an, even wingspan basically. SLOW fet i do

781
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: think he's A high iq. EFFORT defender i just think

782
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: that there are some core physical limitations there where you

783
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: see him struggling to, navigate screens where you see him

784
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: susceptible to, blow bys And then LaMelo is very. Problematic

785
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: defensively so the couple guys who you could have argued

786
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: if they were going to take a perimeter player are

787
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: probably higher risk in Like A trey johnson Or An,

788
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: ace bailey because those are guys where you might question the.

789
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: Shot Selection With, TREY johnson i think that you definitely

790
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: have the same issues about a, defensive backcourt if not

791
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: more so trying to put Him. ALONGSIDE LaMelo i do

792
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: think the offensive ceiling is higher. For him i'm really

793
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: Conflicted On. Ace bailey i'm not a big fan, of

794
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: his and so for, THAT reason i can't be overly

795
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: Critical like logan, WAS saying i would have taken, malawatch

796
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: Here but i'm a lot Higher On malo watch. Than

797
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 3: most it's not super common that you're seeing him mocked

798
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: number four. RIGHT now i think he could have been

799
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: a really nice anchor big for them defensively when they

800
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: already kind of have their franchise guard In franchise Wing

801
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: and LaMelo And. Brandon miller if those guys can stay

802
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: healthy and refine some stuff that would have BEEN where i.

803
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: HAD gone i can't hate. This pick it's just a

804
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: little high. FOR me i don't think the ceiling is.

805
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: Quite there.

806
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: We've seen, this archetype this kind of like big shooter

807
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: who's not very mobile succeed IN, the nba but they

808
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: have to be very good playmakers and they have to

809
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: be very. Smart Defenders joe ingles is a guy that

810
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: comes to mind, for me is a guy that has

811
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: kind of been, like this just big smart wing that's not,

812
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: overly fast but because he, has size size is half.

813
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: The battle and this is kind of the Thing With

814
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: luka Doncic that i've been complaining about over the last couple, Of,

815
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: years like when you're big and, you could you don't

816
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: have to be the. Fastest dude in, the world and

817
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: you can be a useful defensive player as long as

818
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: you're smart and, you're committed and so those are just

819
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: going to be the things that they have to watch with.

820
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: His development it's just his ability to make decisions coming

821
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: off of. Screening actions if he's a high level playmaker in,

822
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: those situations he will be a useful offensive player and

823
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: then obviously the. Positional defense the number five pick Is In.

824
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Ace bailey, no slippage no no falling deep back into.

825
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: The Draft The utah jazz Are Taking ace bailey at.

826
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Number five anybody got some snap judgments for. This one.

827
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: IT'S interesting i would have Slightly Preferred trey. JOHNSON here

828
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: i do Think that i'm more confident in his offensive skill,

829
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: SET translating i just think he's such an elite shooter

830
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: and he really knows how to, weaponize it and he's

831
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 3: a super effective shooter off. The dribble that, being said

832
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: Like With, ace bailey you absolutely have to see, the

833
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: upside and the upside is not what some people. Have

834
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: advertised it's not The Next, kevin. Durant right he is

835
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: not that level of shot. Creator whatsoever he's not that

836
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: level of ball handler he's not that level of. Rim

837
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: pressure he's very limited as a. Ball handler he plays

838
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: pretty stiff, and upright and he really doesn't get to,

839
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: the rim and he doesn't handle the ball, very well

840
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: and he doesn't play well, through physicality and you can

841
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 3: really force him into taking a lot of tough shot

842
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: after tough shot when he is trying. To initiate not,

843
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: to mention he's a very bad passer and a very selfish,

844
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: Player fundamentally so for all, those reasons that's not going

845
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: to be his role.

846
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: For cars that's like, you're describing you're listing off, the

847
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 4: side but.

848
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: The medication could also Be Like Michael porter junior offensively with,

849
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: plus defense because that's going to be the Mold for ace.

850
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: To succeed it's going to be embracing a scale down

851
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 3: roll where It's, JUST okay i am six s EIGHT

852
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: and i am one of the most gifted shot makers on.

853
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: The planet i'm gonna do it coming, around screens, off

854
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: contest off. The catch i'm going to be an effective

855
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: cutter because he's a really good above the. Rim athlete

856
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: he doesn't have that like functional burst to get value off,

857
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: the bounce but as an above the. Rim athlete he,

858
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: is impressive and that's, where defensively seven, foot wingspan very good.

859
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Positional rebounder the stock rates. Are impressive if he buys

860
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: into that knockdown threes and play my role, defensively role

861
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: this can be a really. Impactful player my concern with

862
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: as is all the indications are he thinks that he

863
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: is The Next. Kevin durant he goes out and, he

864
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: says maybe that's a bad shot. For you you don't practice.

865
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: THAT shot i practice. That shot he's turning down workouts.

866
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: With teams that to me is very concerning when like

867
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: the whole appeal with, the guys the talent's there if

868
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: he sees the vision and plays the, right role and

869
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: he doesn't seem to be seeing the vision or playing the.

870
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 3: Right ROLE so i would Have Preferred trey. Johnson Here

871
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: if i'm Utah.

872
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: To, carson's point like when their agents are actually out

873
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: and about like telling everybody he wants to be, the

874
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: scorer and he's openly. Admitting it it's just that there

875
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: was some risk for, him sliding and he didn't slide

876
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: at the end of, the Day and i'm, With, you

877
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: like the big thing for Me is i've just seen

878
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: this archetype a lot over, the years which is like

879
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: the big, lanky athlete like in terms of measurables like height,

880
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: and wingspan but that just brings almost no physicality to.

881
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: The position. It's brutal like that's the thing like you

882
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: With A Michael. Porter junior it's a, Perfect example like

883
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: he has to come clean off of a screen because

884
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: he's not the kind of guy that's going to bump

885
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: a defender off to get separation or fight for his

886
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: spot in terms of physical. Positional strength that was using

887
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: this Example With sam vassini the. Other day but like

888
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: he when he spins into his, like turnarounds like a

889
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: physical big will bump with that right shoulder and just

890
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: shoot a. Turnaround, jumper No like ace is turning into

891
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: this wild, step back, one legged crazy shot because he's

892
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: not attacking with physicality in. Those moves And so i'm

893
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: more worried about the physical tools just not being as

894
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 2: valuable as they look. On paper.

895
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put On My bill simmons fake conspiracy hat

896
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: just for. ONE moment i. Am one i'm Wondering If

897
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: adam silverer Was Like Charlotte. Washington brooklyn you guys can't.

898
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: Draft it we cannot let this behavior. Be successful you

899
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: gotta let this tank, the. DRAFTS workouts i want to

900
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: go to these, three teams only you guys cannot, take

901
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: him so someone else must. Take him and they exiled

902
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 4: Him To Salt. LAKE city i think it's hilarious that

903
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: he's going To, SUN mister i want to be, a

904
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: superstar sign me Up For. Superstar class and, they said

905
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: Go To saltake Welcome.

906
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: To, utah yeah and then is There A lori markin

907
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 2: in trade lined up or? Something like that's the other,

908
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: thing too because it kind of felt like he was

909
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: trying to shoehorn his kind of situation to a place

910
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: where he can have the basketball in his hands and

911
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: he's gonna be fighting for It With deontay George And

912
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: colin Sexton And lorii markinen and all. THESE guys i

913
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: JUST don't i don't really see the. Natural fit but

914
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: at the, same time maybe it's a bet on the culture, and,

915
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: like hey we bring him in here and we'll, Convince,

916
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: him hey you're not getting, the ball so you better

917
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: work on these. Other things so maybe that's. The move

918
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: i'm not. Entirely sure any, THOUGHTS logan i.

919
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Mean you said to. TWO words i saw your breakdown the,

920
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: other day. BLACK hole i mean that's what, scares me.

921
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: Is uh, You Know.

922
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: Alex caruso had a really. GOOD quote i couldn't think

923
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: of a more different player from the Guy Like. Ace

924
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: Bailey but, caruso says teams are looking for a guy

925
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: to clean, the bathrooms NOT. A ceo and, to me

926
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: it's just a fundamental misunderstanding of what teams are. Looking

927
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: for and so the upside's. All there but my mom,

928
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: told ME if i got nothing nice, TO say i

929
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: ain't gonna. Say IT so i AIN'T got i ain't.

930
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: GOT it i ain't got a ton nice to Say.

931
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: ABOUT ace i see. The. UPSIDE uh i THINK he

932
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: i think he needs to get his head screwed. On

933
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: straight the beauty of going to a Place, like, utah

934
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: THOUGH is i like, THEIR system i like, their coach

935
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: and there's AT least i feel like a little more

936
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: structure With a utah than if he would go to

937
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: one of these. Other destinations if It's. A brooklyn so the,

938
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: talent's there it's all Mental With, ace bailey the talent is.

939
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: All there it's all about if he can his willingness

940
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: to play a role and his, his cerebralness like his

941
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: commitment to to playing. SMART basketball i want to, BE

942
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: clear i don't think this this is a. Disaster PICK like,

943
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: i understand we're focusing on the.

944
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: NEGATIVES here I Had a's bailey six on, my board

945
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: so obviously the intangibles are going to be a huge

946
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: deciding factor for. Him here but the talent is definitely

947
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 3: one of the best on. THE board i would Have Preferred,

948
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: trey johnson But Like ace bailey's talent is Better, than

949
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: conkineples the ceiling is, significantly Higher and Lord knows utah.

950
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: NEEDS talent, i mean they really don't have any foundation

951
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: for their rebuild. Right Now It's walker kessler and we'll

952
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: See What Like taylor Hendrix And isaiah Callier And, Kyle,

953
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: philipowski like they don't have any of those real upper,

954
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: echelon Talents And ace bailey at least could be that.

955
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: For them it's an. Upside play i'm with you. ON

956
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: That I trey johnson was my favorite PLAYER that i

957
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: watched in my. Draft prep he has this like kind

958
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: of unique combination of size for the position but shooting

959
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: ability mixed with like all the THINGS that i think

960
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: you need to naturally be a, good score which is

961
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: like kind of an audacity or, a confidence a creativity

962
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: in terms of the, you know different dribble combinations and

963
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: footwork pieces that he's added to. His game and then

964
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: also just like the ability to kind of adjust angles

965
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: and be, you know fluid on the ball in order

966
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: to be that type. Of scorer, AND like i like

967
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: the shots that he takes more within the context OF an,

968
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: Nba Offense like i'm fully Okay With trey johnson leading

969
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: a bench unit and coming off of a ball screen

970
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: and him having a drop coverage big too far back

971
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: and him taking a pull. Up three that to me

972
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: is A good nba shot for a, good shooter in

973
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: the same way that like seventy percent of the shots

974
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: that you See a spalley take your when he has

975
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: the ball in, His hands, you're like this feels like

976
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: a wasted possession in. Many cases and so like the

977
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: dirty little secret about, those shots those super super, tough

978
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: shots is you really only want to take them in

979
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: the last few seconds of the, shot clock or like

980
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: in a, switching scheme playoff, tight environment you got a

981
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: good match up against a smaller player against a switch

982
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: and you go to a turnaround fad way but closer

983
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: to the basket where it's. More reliable there's just a

984
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: lot Of As trey johnson has just been Picked, by,

985
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 2: washington like, To me trey represents LIKE real nba offense

986
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: in the form of an, aggressive score like his ability

987
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: to hit up pull up threes coming off, of action

988
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: his ability to hit threes running off of off, ball

989
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: action both moving to his right and moving to, his

990
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: left adding some of that. SCORING flair i still Think,

991
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 2: with trey my biggest like like hang Up, With TREY

992
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: and i shouldn't even say. Hang up it's JUST something

993
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: i think he's got to. Work ON but i believe.

994
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: He will is he's just a little bit rushed right

995
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: now by the speed of. The GAME and i think

996
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: that once he figures out that like change of pace

997
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: and using physicality and strength to set guys up for

998
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: screens and then like moving in, these quicker, shorter bursts

999
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: that that kind of manifest in, THESE shots i think

1000
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: that'll help him be better at. Getting separation we saw

1001
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: In the xavier game that he kind of just got

1002
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: lock and trailed out of, the game and so there's

1003
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: a certain amount of like just like additional veteran savvy

1004
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: that he can add to become. Even better but, to

1005
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 2: me he just makes sense as a off ball scorer

1006
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: right away IN the nba and then a potential on

1007
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: ball score depending on how some of his specific fundamentals.

1008
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: RAN out I think trey's the best scorer in. THE draft,

1009
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean i really like what he put. On tape

1010
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: my only concern on top of which, You, said jason

1011
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: he was sub sixty percent in field goal attempts at,

1012
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: the RIM so i think he needs to become a better.

1013
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: Rim finisher but the guy has, PHENOMENAL touch i mean

1014
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: at all. Three LEVELS and i think some of the

1015
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: percentages are a little bit MISLEADING because i think the

1016
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: difficulty of some of the shots that he's, putting up

1017
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: like he's a sub thirty eight percent shooter in the,

1018
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: mid range but he's got. Great touch all the shots

1019
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: he's taking. Are tough the Only thing i'd add on

1020
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: to what you were saying TOO is i love his

1021
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: back to the basket in his post. Game too tray

1022
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: showed a little bit of. That too he was an

1023
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: eighty six percentile post score. Last SEASON so i just

1024
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: think he's got a really, high FLOOR and i think

1025
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: there's some real upside to tap, in too like you,

1026
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: WERE saying I just i'm more Confident that trey is

1027
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: going to be a reliable PLAYER Than A so i

1028
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: just think the floor is. Higher there then he's gonna.

1029
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: Step in he's gonna get. YOU buckets i think he's

1030
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the best score in. THE draft i also mocked Him,

1031
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: to UTAH but i really like this Pick. For washington,

1032
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: THEY'RE uh i don't know what to make Of the, middleton,

1033
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: McCollum like, I think i'm glad they have some veterans.

1034
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: In, there yeah it's.

1035
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: It's interesting it's. Very interesting i'm glad they've got some

1036
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: veterans in. The room, BUT uh i really do like

1037
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: this Pick. FOR washington I like trey.

1038
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: A LOT jack i like.

1039
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 4: It too this IS almost i feel like this is

1040
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: the first time in A while i've, Been, Like okay

1041
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: washington seems to be doing some of the. RIGHT things

1042
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 4: i think getting Off The jordan poole thing. WAS smart

1043
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 4: i think not To see jim m not they're gonna

1044
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Or ANYTHING but i do feel like

1045
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: You got sarr now You Got, trey johnson why not

1046
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 4: see if what that looks like with some veterans who

1047
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: can try to cause a LOT of nba players talk

1048
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: about the lack of vets across, the league and now

1049
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: maybe they got. Too many they got three of them

1050
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 4: all of. A SUDDEN but i do feel like, the

1051
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 4: situation all of a sudden feels a little more thought,

1052
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 4: out THERE and i feel like it's a, better play

1053
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: a better environment for some of these younger raw Players

1054
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: like Sar.

1055
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 3: And, johnson yeah and he's an extremely, Gifted scorer like

1056
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: he is definitely the most intriguing offensive Talent in washington now.

1057
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: By far but they do have some other pieces, you,

1058
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: like Right obviously sarre with his two, way potential Cool

1059
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: of bali with his two, Way potential but they need

1060
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: somebody who can kind of bring team. Open, offensively, WELL

1061
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: yeah I, like bubb but like we're talking about a

1062
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 3: different level of a talent Here With. TREY johnson i

1063
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: think that you, Said, IT jason, i mean just an

1064
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: elite off a, ball score best shooter in the class in,

1065
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: My opinion not often you see a guy knock down

1066
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 3: forty percent of his seven and a half three point attempts,

1067
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 3: per game and everything indicates that this is a legitimate.

1068
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: Elite shooter the free, throw shooting but it's the ability

1069
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 3: to do it off, the catch, off screens, in transition,

1070
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: off movement off, the dribble with the step back like

1071
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: lethal lethal jump shooter knows how to. Weaponize it and

1072
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: if you're comparing him to an ace, like this this

1073
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: is a, guy, who yes has a very score. First

1074
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 3: mentality he is a scorer, for sure but he can

1075
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: make the, basic reads the, pocket passes he can find

1076
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: the roll or he can actually occasionally make some skip

1077
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: passes for you and some. Laydown passes so like he's

1078
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: much more effective weaponizing his scoring threat even though he

1079
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: is still a. Basic playmaker he's still definitely jacked up

1080
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: some tough shots AND definitely i agree With you logan

1081
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: about the. Rim, Finishing also i'm not optimistic about. His,

1082
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: defense like he has decent enough tools at sixty six

1083
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: with a six to, ten wingspan but a lot of

1084
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: bad defensive effort and lapses in focus and really brought

1085
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: you no defensive playmaking at the. College LEVEL so i

1086
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: think he is going to be a, negative defender but

1087
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 3: not like a terribly. NEGATIVE defender i just think like

1088
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: kind of below average, for sure but you can see

1089
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: him having that great offensive impact that justifies him being

1090
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: picked HERE because i think that the ceiling is absolutely

1091
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: there and even the floor offensively just with that shooting

1092
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: is pretty high.

1093
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: With the play making piece like this is another difference

1094
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: to me between Him And, ace bailey where it's Like,

1095
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: with ace you're, basically like, HEY dude i know you're

1096
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: posting on the, left block but can you please like

1097
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: look at the floor and see what's happening around you

1098
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: and try to find a. Read there Whereas Because trey

1099
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 2: johnson TAKES real nba shots that you SEE real nba

1100
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: scores regularly take like the kinds of shots that you'd

1101
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: be comfortable with them taking at any point really in the.

1102
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: Shot clock because he takes a lot of, those shots

1103
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: you can really lay out basic reads, for, him, like,

1104
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 2: hey dude look at the tape when you come off

1105
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: the screen and they're at the level that literally means

1106
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: the pocket is open every. Single time, you know like

1107
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: you can you can teach him like these kind of,

1108
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: basic reads and, you know especially with him being surrounded

1109
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: by as many vets as he's been surrounded by like

1110
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: you DON'T. Think cj mccollin can, be, like, hey dude

1111
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: you will make your life easier if you start making.

1112
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: This pass you start making, this pass they won't even

1113
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: show at the. Level anymore they'll see if they'll give

1114
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: you'll get more, open looks you'll get more of. These

1115
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: opportunities and so, To, me Trey Like trey johnson just

1116
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: follows much more of like a p prooven mold for

1117
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: what works IN. The NBA and i mean we literally

1118
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: just saw a Player And buddy healed get finally moved

1119
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 2: into a competent five out system where he was playing

1120
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: with some real talent and being guarded by the second

1121
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: best defender in every situation and immediately be useful and

1122
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: like the volume is, The key like it's not when

1123
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: everyone knows you're a great shooter and you're still getting

1124
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: seven to seven and, a half three is off. A

1125
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: game those are the tricks of. The trade good shooters

1126
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: know how to, get open and he knows how to

1127
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: get open. In ACTION and i just think there's a

1128
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: lot of like really translatable stuff with him, Right away

1129
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: and as far as the defensive end of the, floor

1130
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: goes like we saw buddy within a system become a

1131
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: useful defender because it's. Culturally demanded and that doesn't Mean

1132
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: that trey's gonna Go to washington and suddenly learn how

1133
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: to be a. Great defender but they are slowly sort

1134
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: of building out some defensive culture with some. Defensive talent,

1135
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: and Again and i'm a big believer that anyone's people

1136
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: under the right. Surrounding circumstances as the number seven pick

1137
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 2: is in And The New orleans pelicans Are Taking, jeremiah

1138
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: fears anybody got, a take.

1139
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: IT'S exciting, i mean definitely very high upside kind of

1140
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 3: boom or bust because there's a Lot That jeremiah fears

1141
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: does need to refine and. Figure out but he is

1142
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: definitely one of the most dynamic offensive talents in, this

1143
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: DRAFT and i like him going. Top ten there are

1144
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: a lot of PEOPLE who i think were kind of

1145
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: out on him to the point where they didn't see

1146
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: him as a. LOTTERY talent i had him eight on my.

1147
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: Big board so the sales pitch here, is basically this

1148
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: is a guard who is going to live in, the

1149
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: paint who has, the quickness who has, the physicality who

1150
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: has the change in pace as a driver who has

1151
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: the footwork navigating, the paint fantastic, ball handler nasty, hesitation move,

1152
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 3: really shifty and then once he gets into, that paint

1153
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: nice float. Or touch he's also got a nice little

1154
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: mid range pull up game and gets to the line

1155
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: a ton over six free throw attempts, per game and

1156
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 3: with all of that, rim pressure he just draws so

1157
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 3: much defensive attention that he can playmake off of at pretty.

1158
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: High level he can make the laydown passes and the

1159
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: kickouts and the, wrap rounds and he can make those

1160
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: adjustments in mid air to find. His teammates he can

1161
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: make the occasional, skip pass so really was quite, an

1162
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: efficient high volume pick and. Roll creator that's everything that

1163
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: you love about, the offense because when you can just

1164
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: get into the paint like that and make, the reads

1165
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 3: that's incredibly appealing to build any offense Off of the

1166
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 3: concerns and the swing factors for him are the three

1167
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 3: point shot just over twenty eight percent. From deep that's

1168
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: what he was in high school, as well but you

1169
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: see the indicators of like elite free throw shooter eighty.

1170
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: Five percent he's got really good touch in the paint

1171
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 3: from the. Mid range he shot thirty six percent off

1172
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 3: the catch, from deep so that's a. Better number, and

1173
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: again he has the, space creation he has all the

1174
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: handling and the footwork to get those. Shots off just

1175
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: has to be more consistent there. The, finishing also he

1176
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 3: only shot fifty three percent at, the rim so you

1177
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: want to see that. Number improve and he was a

1178
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: high turnover GUY that i probably attribute a fair bit

1179
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 3: of to just him having a crazy. OFFENSIVE load i

1180
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: also do think though sometimes he did make some. Questionable

1181
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: decisions and then the, DEFENSIVE issues i think that that's

1182
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: just a reality whenever you're trying to build around a

1183
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 3: small guard six two and a half with a six

1184
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: y five wing span IN, today's, nba like your offensive

1185
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: value has to be so great that it outweighs your

1186
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: defensive issues in an era where everybody is trying to

1187
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: target defensive week points and bring those small guards into

1188
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 3: the action over and, over again and that's a more

1189
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: significant concern than. Ever before but the guy doesn't turn Nineteen.

1190
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 3: Until july he's so talented and if he just figures that,

1191
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: shot out he's one of the few guys who does

1192
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: have star potential in. This class And For New orleans

1193
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: man what do you have going? For you everything's, A

1194
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: disaster like you might as well take on the high.

1195
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: Upside talent could the case for like trying to get

1196
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: a THREE and d GUY who i guess could help them,

1197
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: Win now but you're not, Winning NOW so i lean

1198
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: on the side of liking this.

1199
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: FOR them i think fears is?

1200
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 2: This.

1201
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: OKAY sorry i think he's the biggest boom or bust

1202
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: guy in. The class it's funny because like you're reading

1203
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: out kind of the laundry list of, the concerns like

1204
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: he's a tenth percentile guy protecting the basketball in, this

1205
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: draft he's sixteenth percentile and finishing at. The rim but

1206
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: you do see. The UPSIDE so i think it's a very,

1207
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: high risk high reward play Here For. New orleans but

1208
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: there's legitimate. Star upside he's. SUPER shifty i think he's

1209
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: got the best handle in. The draft great change. In

1210
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: pace it's like taking a, big uppercut. YOU know i

1211
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: think this is a big Swing For. New orleans they're

1212
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: either going to leave themselves susceptible for a nasty counter

1213
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: knockout punch and maybe lose. It all But like, CARSON said,

1214
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: i mean you're not there's no timeline. Right NOW like

1215
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: i like them taking the risk and taking a big,

1216
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: WING here i do like, fears upside but there also

1217
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: is a chance where he maybe just doesn't cut it

1218
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: in the league because of.

1219
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: His archetype, FOR me i am a, big fan and

1220
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: the guy he reminds me most of is a guy

1221
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 4: who's taken a little bit later something there wasn't as much.

1222
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: Risk Involved But tyre's maxie a guy who is, lightning

1223
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 4: quick and there were a lot of indicators that his

1224
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: jumper was gonna, be okay even though the numbers in

1225
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 4: college weren't. That good and that's what it reminds me,

1226
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: of too with a mid range pull up the free. Throw,

1227
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 4: shooting aesthetically it looks like like it should be a,

1228
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: good jumper and he just didn't hit it at a

1229
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: super high rate. In COLLEGE so i would just be

1230
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: comfortable betting that his three point jumper sort of develops

1231
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 4: in a very, similar way maybe not As. Good max

1232
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 4: he's has become kind. OF elite i don't know if

1233
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: it becomes, that good but his similar, ultra fast great change,

1234
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: of pace small point guard that there were some shooting

1235
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 4: questions and he figured.

1236
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: Us, out yeah We've seen we've been talking so much

1237
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: over the course of the last couple of months about

1238
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: dribble penetration in, the value especially against teams that, can

1239
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: switch especially when teams can switch with their Big Like

1240
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: chat holmgren And The Olahoma city series is along, the

1241
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: way and, you know WE saw tj McConnell take on

1242
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: a great deal of value because of his ability to

1243
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: get into. THE paint i think it's a big part

1244
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 2: of what Made The cleveland cavaliers so dynamic this year

1245
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: was the Idea That darius garland was healthy and he

1246
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: could just get into the paint. At will there are

1247
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: pieces that come attached. To That darius garland is an

1248
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 2: example of a guy who can get into the paint

1249
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: at will and that has all, the playmaking but there

1250
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: have been, issues defensively there have been issues, with health

1251
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: and there have been issues with his ability to actually

1252
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: knock down jump shots when he gets into, the postseason,

1253
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: because inevitably when you get into, the postseason you just encounter.

1254
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: Tougher CIRCUMSTANCES so i think that'll ultimately be the biggest

1255
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: swing factor, is that, you know, the shooting, the playmaking and.

1256
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: The defense but, you know we talked about It With,

1257
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: John moran we talked about it with a lot of

1258
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: some of these other guys around. The league it's a

1259
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: really strong foundation when you have something that other teams

1260
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: can't really, mess with and if you've got old to,

1261
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: make quickness the ability to beat your man off, the

1262
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: dribble that brings a great deal of value IN, the

1263
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: nba as long as you can build the rest of

1264
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: the construct. Around that waiting on pick number eight For The,

1265
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: brooklyn nets what the hell Are The brooklyn?

1266
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: NETS doing i can't believe it in, TRADE out i

1267
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 4: can't believe that the.

1268
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: Best player on the Board that's malu watch, to ME

1269
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: but i am really HIGH on i just Think. TRADE

1270
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: claxton i Think that claxton is kind of misaligned with.

1271
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: Your timeline he's on a. MOVABLE contract i guess he

1272
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 3: didn't have his, best season so it's a little bit

1273
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: on the. Big SIDE but i just don't Think the

1274
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: nets are really in a position to be doing anything

1275
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: other than best player, Available, here like who are they

1276
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: really prioritizing and, saying no we won't draft to replace

1277
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 3: you if we think that guy's the. Best talent and,

1278
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: To Me mala watches quite clearly the best talent on

1279
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: the board at. THIS point I.

1280
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 4: Like balla watch this video of Inside the nets. War

1281
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: room they. Seem it it's.

1282
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: Super stoke on the crazy howick for a, long Night Like.

1283
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: MALO watch.

1284
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: I Like. Malo watch I'm A Queen derek. QUEEN fan

1285
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 4: i think he'd be. Fun There but i'm A Big mala.

1286
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: Watch guy i'm A Big derek queen. GUY too i

1287
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: do have some concerns about. Him defensively that was what

1288
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: Me and carson. Talked About when queens fit with a lot,

1289
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: of teams we'd like to see him go to a

1290
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: team With like i'd like to see him Go To

1291
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: san antonio because ideally you'd like to put him at

1292
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: the four alongside of five that can one protect the

1293
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: rim and also space. The FLOOR but i Do like

1294
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: queen's game. A lot he just feels like a bit of.

1295
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: A TWEENER but i.

1296
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: Don't Know the.

1297
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: Nets seem like they got, their guy whoever it.

1298
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: May Be byu oh, My gosh.

1299
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh the worst pick of the draft, so far.

1300
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 2: BY far i was, GONNA say i haven't even gotten

1301
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: to an Eval of.

1302
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 4: IGOR yet i Actually, like demon But that's i'm very SKEPTICAL.

1303
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: Of, U look demon's, got UPSIDE but i have a

1304
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of red Flags. ABOUT demon i mean, primarily, LIKE

1305
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: defensively i think this guy is a weak point where

1306
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: EVERY game i FELT like i watched him on tape

1307
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: he's getting blown by somebody's big. Bodying him like he's

1308
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: tall and long, AND like i see the playmaking upside

1309
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: in the, ball handling but he's gonna be a primary

1310
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: ball HANDLER that i don't really trust as. A SCORE

1311
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: so i think his value is. Limited today or WHY

1312
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: would i put the ball in the hands of a

1313
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: guy who can't really create advantages for himself and he's

1314
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a. Defensive liability i'm not gonna lie, to.

1315
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: YOU guys I liked demon like as a pick in.

1316
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: THE twenties i didn't like him as.

1317
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: We're talking about archetypes that you can see succeeding and

1318
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 3: players who have a path that they can follow and

1319
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 3: they do things that translate. Into me this is the

1320
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: epitome of the archetype that people fall in love with every,

1321
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 3: draft cycle and it. Doesn't work the big guard who

1322
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 3: is a super gifted passer but cannot score the basketball

1323
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: and is going to be attacked. Relentlessly defensively those guys

1324
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: don't succeed as like actual building blocks as a bench, ball,

1325
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 3: handler sure but there's just way too much. Clunkiness there

1326
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: you can't entrust a guy with being responsible for your

1327
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: offense if you cannot trust him to consistently threaten the

1328
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: defense with, his scoring which he can then leverage. Into

1329
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: playmaking you have to be respected as a scorer first

1330
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: to be a super, impactful PASSER and i just have

1331
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: major questions in red Flags with demon as. A scorer

1332
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: he's a good. Ball handler he does have really, good

1333
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: size but he doesn't get to the rim or the line.

1334
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: Very much he doesn't get super low or explode on.

1335
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: His drives he's not a real one on one. Advantage

1336
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 3: CREATOR and i think that he can struggle with. Ball

1337
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 3: pressure he can struggle to play and finish Through contract

1338
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 3: and the shooting numbers are, Not good like the shot mechanics,

1339
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: look solid but twenty five percent on jumpers off, the

1340
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: dribble under seventy per cent from, the line and in,

1341
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: conference play this is a guy who averaged nine point

1342
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: eight points, per game three point two turnovers on forty

1343
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 3: seven percent. True shooting While like, LOGAN says i do

1344
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: think he is going to be. Attacked DEFENSIVELY like i love,

1345
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: Beautiful passing demon is the best passer in, THIS class

1346
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: i don't think he can leverage that enough to nearly justify.

1347
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 3: This Pick like, LOGAN said i would have taken Him

1348
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: twenty THAT'S when i would have been comfortable with the risk.

1349
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: Reward here there's a number of GUYS who i would.

1350
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: Have preferred.

1351
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: So we. Did see we did see the draft room get.

1352
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: Very stoked so what's the upside?

1353
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: The inside it would make, your say why the upside

1354
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 3: is there's more there as a jump shooter off, the

1355
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 3: dribble that's. Basically it or he basically finds an ability

1356
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 3: to get downhill more effectively and then he can make

1357
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: the most of all. The shooting like if you were

1358
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 3: to think of a Comp, for demon it would kind

1359
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: of have To Be, josh Giddy And josh giddy if

1360
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: he can make forty percent of his threes and do

1361
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 3: it with some volume off, the dribble is a very

1362
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 3: different Player Than, josh giddy who makes twenty eight to

1363
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: thirty percent of his threes at. Low volumes so where

1364
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: does that jump shot? End up is the swing factor,

1365
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: For sure i'm just not optimistic. ABOUT that.

1366
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: I think kiddy just Went For alex crusoe. STRAIGHT up.

1367
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 4: I was, GONNA say i feel like the floor ceiling

1368
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 4: comp is maybe, not floor but he Feels like giddy

1369
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 4: has an archetype for. His floor but the Upside Is.

1370
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 4: Tyres halibert if you're making, the case, YOU'RE like, i

1371
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 4: mean he was. LIKE playing i don't think his jumper

1372
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 4: is ever going to get to. THAT point i don't think.

1373
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 4: He has he has sort of like the overall the

1374
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 4: floor managing abilities. That him but if you're trying to

1375
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 4: pitch yourself on what does big guard best passer in

1376
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: the class, look like it's sort of it's almost like

1377
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: they just watched, the finals, were like that's how did

1378
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 4: we get one? Of those and it, FEELS yeah, i mean.

1379
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 3: Don't get is such a. Big question whereas It's like

1380
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: hallie knew he was one of the best shooters in

1381
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: the class and had already proved himself as a really

1382
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: good off ball player and all this Stuff that giddy

1383
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: Hadn't and. Demon hasn't.

1384
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: It's really rare for a guy to be this tall

1385
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: and long and to be, this skilled like he's legitimately

1386
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: like six' nine with a six, to eleven wingspan but

1387
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: he's not a. High end. ATHLETE he's slow i really

1388
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: think his ceiling and maybe floor is solely dependent on

1389
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: like his off the dribble shooting and. Three point Shooting,

1390
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: SHOUT out brooklyn. I guess man i mean.

1391
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 2: Time will tell so at number nine We Have, the

1392
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: toronto raptors a team that was the second best DEFENSE

1393
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: in The Nba Post. All star break they always gotta

1394
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: be a little wary of that kind of thing once

1395
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: we get into, the you Know kind of february on,

1396
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 2: with the numbers but this is a team that has shown. Some,

1397
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: defensive upside obviously they have their big Picture Star. In

1398
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: scottie Barnes who does toronto take yere? At Number, Nine

1399
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: malow watch.

1400
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep pitching.

1401
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: And then a.

1402
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: YAKA pearl trade I think a. Yaka pearl trade you

1403
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: lean into this sort of, like super huge super athletic

1404
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 4: defensive identity, if you're.

1405
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: THEM but don't. I don't know just the catch and

1406
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: finish Thing with malaw watch is what everyone's scared about

1407
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: after what happened. In the tournament is there anybody who's

1408
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: Willing to play devil's advocate There and defend malawatch? FOR

1409
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: what Happened.

1410
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 4: I like MALAWATCH i think i THINK he's got i

1411
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 4: think he's got surprisingly, good TOUCH actually and i think

1412
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 4: that the free throw numbers. ARE like shot i was

1413
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 4: kind of shocked at how good of a free throw.

1414
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 4: SHOOTER he is i think that is some just he

1415
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 4: he needs a. Little more time he is kind of

1416
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 4: a raw prospect on the offensive end, of the floor

1417
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: but exactly he is one of those which feels very

1418
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 4: RAPTORS and so i DO think that i do think

1419
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 4: that he is going to develop considerably more on the

1420
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: Offensive en than I'm not something. I'm worried about not

1421
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: that he's, going to, be you know ever going to

1422
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: be a go, TO offensive player. I DON'T think but

1423
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 4: i think the catch and finish ability is gonna is

1424
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 4: not an.

1425
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: Issue at all, AND he, SAID i think i mean

1426
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: he's a, real defensive, Anchor immediate impact like put him

1427
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: in the middle and he's gonna make you a. Really

1428
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: Good defense Like i'm also i'm really excited about, Him

1429
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: offensively too like very very, small sample size but he

1430
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: was sixty three percent out of. The mid range he

1431
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: was seventy seven percent. At the rim like some of

1432
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: that is a byproduct of, his SHOT selection but i

1433
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: like that the guy takes shots he's confident, going up

1434
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: with and his defensive floor. Is so high and maybe

1435
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: PEOPLE have like ptsd of the slow, footed BIG men

1436
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: but i really like how he moves his, feet IN

1437
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: space and i think he defends well. And drop, COVERAGE

1438
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: like again i had him number four, on My, Board

1439
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: like carson i'm really surprised that he. HASN'T gone yet

1440
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: i think this guy is one of those big men

1441
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 1: that's just gonna immediately come in and be. A STUD

1442
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: defensively like i Pointed to, kling in earlier that's not a,

1443
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: one for one but it's kind of THE guy that i.

1444
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: Would point to. It's really similar just, a high floor

1445
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: a medio.

1446
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: In impact big seven to one with a seven to,

1447
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 3: seven wings span already two point fifty at, eighteen years

1448
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 3: old who can. MOVE like this i mean he was

1449
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 3: a ninety ninth percentile efficiency finisher Off the role he

1450
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: had a true shooting percentage of ninety one as. A role, man,

1451
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: so like yeah the above the rim stuff finished so many.

1452
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: Lobs this year, but Then also, LIKE jackson said i

1453
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 3: think one of the most intriguing aspects is the legitimate

1454
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: flashes of touch, that we've seen not even saying he's

1455
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 3: ever going to be like, a stretch big but just

1456
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: having that little push shot float or, hook shot game

1457
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: being able to knock. Down free throws we know that

1458
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 3: that's a. Legitimate difference maker and then the defensive versatility

1459
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 3: and knowing that he's only been playing for four years

1460
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 3: and he's one of the younger players. In, THIS draft

1461
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 3: like i Just think the florida ceiling ratio here in

1462
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 3: an archetype that we know, is really valuable that sort of.

1463
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 3: Two way big. I'M all in i. Love the talent.

1464
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: This is interesting Toronto Just Took colin, murray boyles instead

1465
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 2: a guy who Kind Of plays, scottie barnes's, position a big,

1466
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 2: lefty hybrid, forward power player good, around the rim underrated

1467
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: defensive players, From versatility there what do you Guys? Think

1468
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: about colin they.

1469
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 3: Got tocraft in these, Rangey, wings.

1470
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: Man like yeah how many of these guys can They they.

1471
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 3: Get it's ridiculous. THIS is high i do like a

1472
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 3: lot of what You Get From. COLIN murray boyles i

1473
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: think that he's one of the best defensive talents. IN

1474
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 3: this class i think that you're getting extreme versatility. From,

1475
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,839
Speaker 3: HIM there offensively i think you have more questions about

1476
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: where is he going to fit in because he's going to. Be,

1477
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 3: a four like he is a very good rebounder. For

1478
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 3: his size he's a, good rim protector but he's not.

1479
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: A defensive anchor it's more his versatility that's the. Selling

1480
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 3: point there so you have to find a role for

1481
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 3: him that is going to be, more perimeter centric and

1482
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: that's where the jump shot is a big. Question and

1483
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: concern he's a seventy percent. Free throw shooter he made

1484
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: nine to, threes all year shot twenty six, Percent FROM

1485
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: deep so i think he's going to be below average as.

1486
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 3: A jump shooter he has to get into that sort

1487
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 3: of a average range to. Justify this value and then

1488
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: he does DO things that I like offensive like he's,

1489
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 3: got good feel he's a pretty, Good rim finisher he's

1490
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: got good instincts. As a cutter he has some mismatch

1491
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: attacking potential as a, post, up player like he definitely.

1492
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 3: HAS game there i just don't know how much. He'll

1493
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: be utilized but he's, got a nice little skilled. Face

1494
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: up game he's got some good passing feel like he

1495
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: does a lot of. Connective winning stuff this is just

1496
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: high FOR me when i do have questions about his

1497
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 3: OFFENSIVE role and i don't really see. The ceiling there

1498
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: if they were gonna take a wing and he's not,

1499
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 3: really a wing he's more, of a forward like he's more.

1500
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 3: Of a four there WERE guys who i liked more

1501
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 3: and if they wanted like a, DEFENSIVE minded big i

1502
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: Would Have, taken mala watch and he's kind of like

1503
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 3: walking the line between those. Two roles almost he's, A

1504
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: nice player but this is too. HIGH for, Me.

1505
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: I mean na've Gift wrapped mally Watch.

1506
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: To.

1507
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: The suns man, oh, my god, right you're.

1508
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: Right you're right if they, mess this up an award

1509
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 3: of some kind.

1510
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: That.

1511
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 3: WOULD be incredible.

1512
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: I think we've we've seen so many kind of guys

1513
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: that come through that fit this mold where it's like

1514
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: they're looking for, that like undersized big slash forward who's

1515
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 2: a good playmaker and a versatile Defender ever since. Draymond

1516
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: HAD success but I do think colin has, real physical

1517
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: tools WHICH is Something i think draymond was contending with

1518
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: at his. In His Time but i'm i'm a big.

1519
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: Believer in power i'm a big believer in physical power

1520
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: that can. Move, its feet yeah it's when you can

1521
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: move your feet and you. BRING real power i think

1522
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: that there's. Real VALUE there and i think, that you

1523
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: know big guys that can play out, of the role that,

1524
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: can beat switches that can also guard multiple positions and be.

1525
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: A backline defender i think. THERE'S value there i think.

1526
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: There's CERTAINLY upside but i can't get my mind off

1527
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: The idea Of phoenix having malawatch fall right into their lap.

1528
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 4: And watch them. MESS it up i was, about to

1529
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 4: say we haven't and until the, pick is In wait

1530
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: for phoenix. To, do something.

1531
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 2: Okay who does phoenix Take? INSTEAD of malwatch.

1532
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 4: I don't know it's, gotta, BE him, right I mean

1533
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 4: he's i beel he's.

1534
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: The best player what about what about?

1535
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 4: Best player available and they've been talking About?

1536
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: What about Coward What? About carter bryant like a role

1537
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: player wing, that's an athletic physical player To Be alongside

1538
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: dylan brooks and at a physical identity.

1539
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: TO the team i, Wouldn't hate that but like just

1540
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: considering the circumstances they were in last YEAR with big

1541
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: nrk at the five and not being able. To play

1542
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: defense it's just foolish to me to not center is

1543
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: where you can have, the most, impact you know as.

1544
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: A DEFENSIVE player and I think maldu watch is. An

1545
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: elite defender the is gonna be really GOOD at the.

1546
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: NBA level immediately i think the funniest pick is if

1547
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: they went With Somebody like derek queen or something, and,

1548
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: is like yeah we're gonna run some offense through him on.

1549
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 4: The Low block so mishbia is kind of a, college basketball,

1550
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 4: head you Know As a michigan state person SAID that

1551
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 4: would i really hope he keeps.

1552
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: His hands, OFF you know I wouldn't HATE bryant or

1553
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: i like both. OF their games I Definitely. LIKE coward

1554
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: more i just think he's gonna. Be a winner but

1555
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: they've got so many guys on, The wings already like

1556
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: their entire roster Is Like, Book Jayalen, Green Dylan, Brooks

1557
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: ryan Dunn It's. Like brad beale you can only have

1558
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 1: so many twos and threes. ON your roster i just

1559
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: think it would be really foolish to allocate your. Most

1560
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 1: valuable asset, this, is again guys they got ONE Pickback.

1561
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: For kd man you gotta make. This, THING worthwhile like

1562
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: i think this is a huge misstep if They.

1563
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 4: Don't.

1564
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: Take malu watch.

1565
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: Do you Guys think that phoenix is gonna at least

1566
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: have some bit Of hesitation with malatch in some of,

1567
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: his rebounding issues given that they were Such A terrible

1568
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: rebut i.

1569
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 3: Think the rebounding stuff probably has more to do with

1570
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 3: the amount he was playing out, In SPACE defensively and

1571
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 3: i think that that's an indicator of like one of,

1572
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 3: his cool abilities which is that he is this massive

1573
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 3: human being who can, move his feed who isn't necessarily

1574
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: going to switch a ton but will switch some and

1575
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 3: can play up. At THE level like i think he's

1576
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 3: going to be. A good rebounder i also think he's

1577
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: a better shot blocker than some of the raw numbers.

1578
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: Would indicate it even, like per, forty you know his rebounding.

1579
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: Numbers aren't bad he's a really, good offensive rebounder which

1580
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 3: is part Of the reason i'm encouraged about the defensive

1581
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 3: rebounding being better. THAN the, numbers i mean two point

1582
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 3: seven offensive, rebounds a game and. Twenty one minutes that's.

1583
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 3: Pretty damn good you got to.

1584
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: Be a physical lass kicker to get that. Many offensive

1585
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: rebounds i'm with. You on that are we annoyed At

1586
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: All the houston rockets. On the screen.

1587
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 4: It's so dumb. It's so dumb it confused me for

1588
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 4: a second of prep. Making a, graphic, oh wow okay

1589
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 4: we got. A sham's report. Wow A Trade the charlotte

1590
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 4: Hornets Are trading mark Williams To the phoenix suns for

1591
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 4: the number twenty nine pick and a twenty twenty nine. First,

1592
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 4: round pick wow you could have.

1593
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: Had the better you could have. Had the Better duke

1594
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 1: big man without.

1595
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: Going up on the pick is. Still coming in they

1596
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: Might Take. Both Mark williams mark, WILLIAMS to me i

1597
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: did a deep e val into Him, for the lakers

1598
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: so we could talk about him. IN a minute i

1599
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: have to see what. This pick is this is. GONNA

1600
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: be interesting.

1601
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 4: I do like getting a way out in the future First.

1602
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 4: From the suns that way like a savvy move from

1603
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: then They got the sons gave the number twenty nine

1604
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: tonight and a twenty twenty nine to twenty twenty.

1605
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: Nine, first round yeah but is that one of the

1606
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: three first that, they got back it might not, be

1607
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: their pick. That's the thing it might because remember they flipped.

1608
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: That one pick. They had picks they don't even.

1609
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: Have that from twenty six to thirty. One, ghost sons

1610
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 3: okay here.

1611
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 2: Comes adam self.

1612
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 4: Funky deal to happen while you're. On the clock that's

1613
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: got to be like defense for not taking.

1614
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: Them all Away it took why are?

1615
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 4: You making much what in the world? Is going on.

1616
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 2: Here's The Thing. With mark williams this is a team

1617
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 2: that's been bad at center for, a long time so

1618
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 2: they're probably trying. To stock up but they've Got The

1619
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: entire charlotte hornet center rotation in house now that that they.

1620
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 2: Can Rely On the mark williams is a very, good

1621
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: role man a very, good offensive rebounder but he is

1622
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 2: legitimately atrocious on defense and apparently the medical. Was really,

1623
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: NASTY so like i wouldn't want To Rely on mark

1624
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 2: williams as. A starting center do you think this is

1625
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 2: mostly an attempt to essentially offer insurance, at the position

1626
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 2: or taking a young player to play center in a

1627
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: dead serious team that's got a bunch, of win Now Guys,

1628
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: In Devin, Booker Bradley. Beal dylan brooks you've got some young,

1629
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: talent In House, like ryan dunn but it's not exactly a.

1630
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: Bright bright future but you bring in, a young player

1631
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 2: But You have mark williams as kind of an insurance

1632
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: policy against. THE young players i.

1633
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 3: Just Don't know if i'd be giving up To First, for,

1634
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 3: mark WILLIAMS because like i agree, With, YOUR evaluation jason

1635
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 3: i think clearly, THE offensive, talent i mean the athleticism pops.

1636
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 3: At his size we even saw a little bit of

1637
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 3: passing feel from, him this year but like major. Major,

1638
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 3: availability concerns obviously the trade got Rescinded. With the Lakers Lakers,

1639
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 3: legend mark williams, and then defensively the, Tools are there

1640
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: like we saw it, as a rookie he saw it,

1641
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 3: as a prospect and then it's just like falling off

1642
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 3: a cliff and so how much is he going to

1643
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 3: be able to? Turn that around it's kind of. HARD

1644
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 3: to say I do like mala watch, more long TERM

1645
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,480
Speaker 3: and so i do think that they kind Of Overpaid

1646
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 3: for mark williams if they're gonna have. Both these guys,

1647
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 3: That being said i'm glad That. THEY took malawatch i

1648
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 3: don't think it's crazy for them to invest kind of

1649
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: big in two different. CENTERS this offseason i Do Think

1650
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 3: the mark williams thing is a bit, of AN overpay

1651
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 3: but i mean they needed to retool their, entire center

1652
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: situation and they got the best talent on the board

1653
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 3: here at their biggest. Position of need now they have

1654
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: their offensively. In client center they have their defensively in

1655
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: CLIENT set who i do think has some. Offensive upside

1656
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: too they have their guy who is year four more ready,

1657
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 3: to play now and then they have their rookiees eighteen

1658
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 3: and has played four, years OF basketball so i can

1659
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: kind of. See the vision at the end, Of the

1660
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 3: day i'm just happy They took mala watch and didn't

1661
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 3: mess it up. On that front to watch his.

1662
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: We, pick you need you need somebody to grab. All

1663
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 1: The bricks jalen green's gonna be. Laying Up there.

1664
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 4: The sham's clarified the twenty twenty. Nine first rounder it's

1665
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 4: the least favorable OF.

1666
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 3: So no i was talking about the twenty ninth pick

1667
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: and the twenty something pick in. Twenty twenty nine those

1668
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 3: are two those aren't not, valuable first rounders let's not there,

1669
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 3: when you consider you know what.

1670
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: It COULD be so i actually have a hilarious story to. Tell,

1671
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: you guys so do you guys Remember When the nick

1672
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: richards trade went? DOWN? Last, year I Uh. Because paul

1673
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: farrington you Guys. All know paul he just. Messaged With

1674
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: me paul farrington used to. Produce this. Show he uh

1675
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: he one day, got a legitimate like twenty five minute

1676
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: Like Reaction to mark williams getting Traded to THE suns

1677
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: because i misread THE report and I did all i

1678
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: did all the prep and recorded like a full length

1679
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 2: This Is what mark williams would be able To Do

1680
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:18,919
Speaker 2: alongside Kevin Durant and devin, booker trade Reaction and literally,

1681
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: Paul texts, me he's like Did You? Mean mark williams

1682
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: like are you aware That It's? Actually NICK richards and i?

1683
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Was like WHAT and then i went and read THE

1684
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: report and i felt like, a total BUMBASS and then

1685
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: i told him to scrap it and pretend. It never happened,

1686
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: so maybe somewhere Maybe Somewhere on, paul farrington's computer we can,

1687
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: find the Uh The original mark Williams to. The sun's

1688
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 2: reaction it's a little little dated now since the roster

1689
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: is a, Little atty, Different, But yeah, logan logan's right

1690
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of. Bricks to grab so

1691
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: while We wait for portland to make, their next pick

1692
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 2: what did you Guys make of boston and Them Pivoting

1693
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: to anthony simons and shedding some salary over the course

1694
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: OF the last i think that.

1695
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: THIS was inevitable i think that we all knew that

1696
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 3: they were going to be trying to get OFF of

1697
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: Those kp. And drew contracts it was clear that a

1698
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 3: major priority for ownership was going to be getting under

1699
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 3: the second ape or not having to pay an, egregious

1700
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 3: tax bill and those are the two contracts that you

1701
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 3: look at to. MAKE it happen i, think that overall

1702
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 3: they did it a. Pretty Nice job like i'm NOT.

1703
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 3: The biggest. DNT simon's guy i think that he is

1704
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 3: a difficult archetype to really entrust with a significant role

1705
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 3: or to pay a really. High dollar value and it's

1706
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 3: the same sort of push pull we've. Been talking about,

1707
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 3: very skilled offensively but will he be efficient enough impactful

1708
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 3: as a playmaker to justify that he's a? Terrible defensive

1709
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: player probably, not big picture but, for this. Year why

1710
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: not you. Need more Creation obviously, with tatum out you

1711
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 3: need a guy who can produce some offense for. You

1712
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 3: with volume he, can do that and it's a one

1713
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 3: year trial and then you see where you. GO from

1714
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 3: there i think Getting off the drew contract is a.

1715
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 3: Win for them getting back two second rounders. IS a

1716
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 3: win i thought they really made out nicely. With that

1717
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 3: deal AND then, the kp one it's more just like kind,

1718
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 3: of all right they got, off his contract, like you

1719
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 3: know they get back basically, nothing to Do And it's

1720
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 3: george nang and. A second rounder he wasn't expiring all, the,

1721
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 3: AVAILABILITY questions like i get why he wasn't super coveted.

1722
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: AS an asset i like that a Lot for THE

1723
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: hawks and i like It. FOR the nets i think

1724
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 3: both those teams made out with. More Interesting, packages for

1725
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: boston it's just like. This makes Sense everybody Around white

1726
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: and Tatum And probably jalen brown was. Gonna be expendable

1727
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 3: and Then they've Got prichard and hawser on their really

1728
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 3: team friendly deals and we'll See if al, horford sticks

1729
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: around that's gonna be your. Group going forward but you're

1730
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 3: gonna be transitioning to a pretty dramatically Different era of

1731
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: celtics basketball Around that when. Tatum comes back.

1732
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 2: We haven't really seen a Lead. Guard like anthony simon's

1733
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: a true lead guard that can beat his man off

1734
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: the dribble and kind of provide some real downhill speed

1735
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: with the Ball In this boston celtics System like now kyrie,

1736
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: even you know obviously it was a. MUCH lesser roster

1737
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 2: I just think i think there's a certain amount of

1738
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: like big lead Guard speed that Anthony brings that i'm

1739
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 2: just curious to see what. It LOOKS like and i

1740
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: think it's kind of. An interesting flyer like you you

1741
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 2: could just literally let his contract run out and view

1742
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: it as an opportunity to just shed salary if, You

1743
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: wanted to but in the, in the meantime you get

1744
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 2: to find out what it looks like. In this system and,

1745
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: Like you know portland has been a dumpster fire for

1746
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: a variety of reasons over the, last Several years but

1747
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 2: boston kind of is the quintessential place where people learn

1748
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: how to, play modern BASKETBALL and so i think that

1749
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 2: there's a potential upside there that at least makes it

1750
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: Exciting me and jackson were talking about this, the, other

1751
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: day like at, The very least inferny Being in a

1752
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: celtics jersey kind of makes next season a little More exciting.

1753
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: For celtics fans.

1754
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 4: We did just get The report From shams that i'm

1755
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 4: sure will be COMING across the tv. In A second

1756
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 4: the trailblazers are trading the Pick To, the memphis grizzlies

1757
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 4: and the pick is, Your Guys's Boy Cedric Coward Dylan

1758
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 4: Brooks replacemented. DYLAN brooks replace i.

1759
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY love, IT i mean i think it's a really,

1760
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: Good Value pick like coward is one, of my guys if. Not,

1761
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 3: my guy honestly Probably him and malawatch are the two

1762
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: guys in The lottery who i'm maybe the highest on compared.

1763
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: To the consensus but this is a guy who wasn't

1764
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: really super high on a lot of people's radars because

1765
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 3: he only played six games this year before. He got

1766
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: hurt He Was at washington state and before that He Was.

1767
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 3: At eastern washington but truly one Of the players i'm

1768
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: most confident in translating to being a real quality wing and,

1769
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 3: a quality starter got awesome measurables. For a wing six

1770
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 3: six with a seven. To two wingspan that's just phenomenal

1771
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,440
Speaker 3: length and size at the position and does so many

1772
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 3: of those things that you want from. A, starting wing like,

1773
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 3: first of all the. Efficiency is incredible this guy's basically

1774
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 3: seventy percent on twos and forty percent on threes over

1775
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 3: multiple years. OF college basketball i think he's an elite.

1776
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Three point shooter he's got a mid range pull up

1777
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 3: game when he's attacking close outs playing, off the bounce

1778
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 3: and then he's got good passing feel and. Connective abilities

1779
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 3: there he's just A very, high iq guy takes what the,

1780
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: defense gives him can score inside the ark and is

1781
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 3: an elite shooter. From beyond it and he can make

1782
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 3: the reads as a passer, and then defensively, great screen,

1783
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 3: navigator super, fluid agile mover and obviously the length. Is

1784
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 3: super impactful so he's. Almost twenty two the ceiling, isn't

1785
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 3: the highest but the floor legitimately is. Among the highest And,

1786
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 3: if you're memphis this is what You want right you

1787
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 3: want a wing who can contribute right now on both

1788
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 3: sides of the ball and help you revitalize. YOUR playoff

1789
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: chances i think it's a phenomenal. Pick, FOR them.

1790
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: Yeah i love This move. FOR memphis too i think

1791
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: he's got, Legitimate, upside too like maybe not as high

1792
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: as some of the highest guys, in THIS class but

1793
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: i think there's more. To tap into carson was talking

1794
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: about some of the efficiency numbers over three, years of

1795
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: college because we can't just use his last year over

1796
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: seventy percent, at the rim fifty five percent out of,

1797
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: the mid range and thirty nine. Percent from deep that's a.

1798
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: Legitimate sample size and he's just. The total PACKAGE that's

1799
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: What I. Call cedric cowry, he can score, he, can

1800
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: play make, he can rebound. HE can defend i just

1801
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a really. Immediate IMPACT player

1802
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: And i think memphis. Crushed this pick i'm intrigued to

1803
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: see what, they GAVE up but i really like.

1804
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 4: This for them reporting Is In. From jake fisher he

1805
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 4: said they traded eleven for number sixteen, in this draft

1806
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 4: a future first rounder and. Two second rounders so he's

1807
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 4: exactly what that we.

1808
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: Have, To SEE wow and i mean we Already know

1809
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: that portland is on some sort of weird win now

1810
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 2: Trajectory Going, after drew holliday trying to open up A Spot,

1811
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 2: for scoot henderson and they're kind of loaded up at

1812
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: this athletic forward that can, defend position already and so

1813
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: it makes. SOME sense, there i mean the Big, thing

1814
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 2: for memphis, And you know memphis has kind of always

1815
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: had an eye on this. Sort of thing this is

1816
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: why they keep drafting guys that can help. Them right

1817
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: away but guys that are pretty big, for their position, that, can,

1818
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,839
Speaker 2: dribble shoot pass and defend are so am densely VALUABLE.

1819
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: In the nba, And To me cedric coward just fits,

1820
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: that mold perfectly and he fits a position of direct

1821
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 2: need for next season at the. SMALL forward spot i

1822
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 2: think it makes.

1823
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 3: Price to move. UP five, Spots i, mean, i'm yeah yeah.

1824
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 4: There's got to be real.

1825
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 3: PROTECTIONS on That I love cedric COWARD so and i,

1826
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 3: love the fit but that is.

1827
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: A lot so they're GOING to, be I mean but

1828
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: i do Like.

1829
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: IT for portland i think that's. A, GOOD point, look i.

1830
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 3: Mean why not they're just drafting the draft capital. At

1831
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 3: this Point.

1832
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: So does jalen wells move to the Two with bay

1833
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: gun at that point, probably becomes yeah so It, goes

1834
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 2: Mor well does coward start at the? Three right away i'm.

1835
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 3: Ready for?

1836
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: IT who else i?

1837
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 3: Like HIM starting and i Really Like. THE wells coward

1838
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 3: i mean just that, domination, of shooting defense some secondary

1839
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 3: tertiary ball. Handling and, playmaking for you those are two

1840
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 3: winning basketball players To Pair ALONGSIDE. John TRIPLE j so

1841
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:11,879
Speaker 3: i like. The Vision there.

1842
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: Does memphis have enough ball handling to be? Good, next year.

1843
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 4: No certainly not but.

1844
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they end up? Training OFF them but

1845
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: i don't.

1846
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 4: THINK they will, i WOULD too but i. Don't, think

1847
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 4: so yeah he does feel like A Like a reset news.

1848
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 4: Change of scenery can.

1849
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: This Feels very atlanta, west to me where you've got

1850
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: this lead guard that obviously, has his flaws but anybody

1851
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: could drink the kool aid and talk themselves into thinking

1852
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,520
Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy who. Saves their franchise

1853
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 2: but he's now in this weird holding pattern where he's

1854
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: surrounded by role player talent and good enough to be

1855
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: fighting in the play in, tournament every year but not

1856
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 2: good enough to. Get above it that's what it feels.

1857
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,759
Speaker 3: Like To me and, ATLANTA is different, i know exactly

1858
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 3: and being more. Of a, seller you Know at least

1859
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 3: atlanta now talk to himself into, Big Three TRAY jalen

1860
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 3: johnson kp And. Of course jackson they Are in the

1861
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 3: east where the bar. Is totally Different but actually I'm

1862
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 3: excited for. Atlanta the bar that's.

1863
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 2: An aggressive move that's an Aggressive move from memphis to

1864
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: get up to give up that kind of compensation for

1865
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: a second round pick or for a five spots in.

1866
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 2: The first, Round Uh Yeah. I'M i'm i'm i am

1867
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 2: Excited to watch boston next year just with the with

1868
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: with that. Group of guys i'm Excited To see jalen

1869
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: brown in a lead ball handling role for a good.

1870
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: Amount of time one of the Big things with anthony

1871
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: and his efficiency tanking last year was him getting the

1872
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: primary defensive, assignment every night as Opposed to alongside dame

1873
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: where his. Efficiency was higher celtics fans also got to

1874
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 2: See firsthand as anthony played pretty well against, them LAST

1875
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: year AND i think i think ultimately what it'll come

1876
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 2: down to is Whether or not anthrony can defend. In

1877
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 2: THAT system because i think if he could defend in

1878
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: that system and they could get him at a, ROOM

1879
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 2: respectable number i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to keep. Him,

1880
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 2: On board okay so, at number twelve We Have. The

1881
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: chicago bulls where do You guys think?

1882
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: Chicago's, GOT directions ironically I Really liked Cedric coward for chicago.

1883
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 3: On court right either like A three and d wing

1884
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 3: or turning, defensive minded big Probably Like a carter bran Or. Maybe,

1885
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 3: a SORBER.

1886
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe i don't. Know how, long you know if.

1887
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: They want to you think they're looking for more of

1888
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: A long. TERM i don't i can never wrap my

1889
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: trying to Rationalize what the bulls what are trying to do.

1890
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Is like impossible but you think they're looking more long term,

1891
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: or short term because LIKE long term i would hear

1892
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Like in a singe Or maybe a bearringer with upside but.

1893
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 1: Like immediate impact i'd probably look be LOOKING at a

1894
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: I do like, sorber to them, and you know give

1895
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: them a little bit of flexibility to Get off. That

1896
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: vooch contract that'd Probably be. Where i'd go we.

1897
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 4: Have another trade we've got, another trade, here but yeah Go.

1898
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 4: Ahead To jackson the hawks are making weird moves all.

1899
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 4: Across the port they're trading them to where one pick,

1900
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 4: after this board they're trading the thirteen Pick to the

1901
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 4: pelicans for twenty three and an unprotected twenty twenty six

1902
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 4: first Most Favorable of New. Orleans, and milwaukee yeah.

1903
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 2: Those those, could both picks depending on what.

1904
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 4: HAPPENS quite, them i mean it's a ten, spot move

1905
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 4: up so you got to need to give, up something

1906
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 4: decent but unprotected twenty twenty six First Potentially From.

1907
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 3: New, orleans milwaukee.

1908
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah and with the with the with the guys that

1909
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: are available, AT this spot i don't see. Anybody that nice.

1910
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 3: They just wanted Add another like rangey three. And d

1911
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 3: wing they arec already, have A few but i don't

1912
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 3: know if you can ever. Have TOO many but i

1913
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 3: just like that as a value, proposition for them they need.

1914
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 4: To.

1915
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 3: Force, it.

1916
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah well and that's the point is we talked about

1917
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 2: how it kind of like flattens out once you get

1918
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: to this point. In the draft they can find a

1919
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:01,919
Speaker 2: role player wing. At twenty, three You Know with Zachary Rissochet,

1920
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 2: and jalen johnson they don't necessarily have a ton of

1921
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: minutes available on the. WING right now i think that.

1922
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 2: Makes some sense some Little.

1923
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 4: Asperious who new orleans is so excited about trading up

1924
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 4: for is the real question in FOR THE Bullets o a.

1925
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 3: SENGA we got i can see. THAT for sure i

1926
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 3: mean we were talking about them wanting to go out

1927
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 3: there and get a wing or somebody in the front

1928
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 3: court who's, more defensive MINDED and a sa is A

1929
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 3: guy who i think there's kind of a split opinion

1930
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 3: on where a lot of people are optimistic about the

1931
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 3: ceiling that he, has JUST athletically and i do think

1932
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 3: he's going to be quite a. Good defensive player he's

1933
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 3: got really good length and versatility on that side. Of

1934
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 3: the ball, he'll play physically he's a decent, secondary rint

1935
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 3: protector and then offensively he can weaponize that athleticism in

1936
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: transition with the cutting he gets to. Line a lot

1937
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 3: he's got some potential as, a closeout attacker and then

1938
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 3: he's got like decent feel as. A connective passer the

1939
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 3: concern for me with HIM is just i definitely see

1940
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 3: an outcome where he's an offensive liability in half court

1941
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 3: because the shot is a. Huge question mark he's twenty five.

1942
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 3: PERCENT from three i don't really like. The mechanics there

1943
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: he has. Some bad Misses.

1944
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 2: Was that mike? Miller? With him though is he working

1945
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:13,600
Speaker 2: out trying to.

1946
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 3: Fix that number miller. Just, WITH him oh i was

1947
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:17,440
Speaker 3: not looking.

1948
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 2: When, he Was Celebrating. Said mike miller that's.

1949
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 3: A good indicator damn. Good for you. This IS fine

1950
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 3: like i Would Have, preferred CARTER bryant but i like

1951
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 3: this philosophically. For the bulls.

1952
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 2: You guys are. Gonna Love this Derek Queen to new.

1953
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 2: Orleans at thirteen.

1954
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 4: He was, really, thinking that like how are they gonna

1955
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 4: what are they Gonna draft? The zion replacement like kind of.

1956
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,799
Speaker 4: This big man that's exactly what's exactly?

1957
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 2: What they did that was.

1958
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Like the least my least favorite Destination. For, for queen

1959
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 1: actually what?

1960
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 3: The?

1961
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: Hell is yeah?

1962
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 3: What's SUPER wed like I do like queen as just a,

1963
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 3: value talent here but he is, like, that big thick

1964
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 3: kind of face up driver who's gonna want to get.

1965
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 3: Downhill a lot and defensively you're trying to find a

1966
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 3: role for him as. LIKE a tweener i don't think

1967
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 3: he can be a five for you defensively. And then

1968
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 3: offensively you got questions, about the jumper big questions. ABOUT

1969
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 3: the jumper i don't think this is the spot for

1970
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 3: him to maximize, His skill set like he Can't. Play

1971
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 3: with zion he can't.

1972
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Play with him do you guys, THINK this, well i

1973
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: mean do you guys think, that this well it kind

1974
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: of looks like they're booting up, for, THE future Right

1975
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: i Mean. Fears, and QUEEN.

1976
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah so i would assume that the new front offense

1977
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: is coming in and, Clean a. House, that's what yeah it.

1978
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 4: Seems, THAT way yeah i would imagine you can't.

1979
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 3: How Are you Playing Zion. AND derek, QUEEN i mean

1980
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 3: i definitely like. The talent here he's a kind of

1981
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 3: boom er buss just because he is in a. Very

1982
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 3: unique mold but you do see that ability to get,

1983
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 3: to the rim, get to line some of the feel

1984
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: and vision. As, a passer like there's definitely a lot

1985
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 3: of offensive upside for him if you can put the

1986
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 3: right infrastructure around him where you can kind of insulate

1987
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 3: him defensively maybe with a great five, alongside him there,

1988
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 3: AND then offensively i think the swing factor is his

1989
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 3: jump shot and what level he can get to there

1990
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 3: if he. Can be, solid but yeah interesting they picked

1991
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 3: two very, skilled offensive players both who have. Jump shot

1992
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: questions that's, a little rickety but it is a fun

1993
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 3: sort of offensive duo to build around if you can get,

1994
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 3: A defensive CENTER i mean i.

1995
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 4: See, the, vision.

1996
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah definitely what do you guys think makes sense as

1997
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: a zion destination. Around the league so this would have

1998
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 2: to be a team that could anchor him with a

1999
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: preferably as a center that can shoot and also. Protect

2000
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 2: the rim so we're already, pretty Limited.

2001
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 1: There San, Antonio, SAN antonio okay i don't Know who's taking.

2002
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 2: And they would have to be a team that really needs, some,

2003
01:35:54,920 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 2: rim pressure yeah or a death for a team in.

2004
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:01,480
Speaker 2: Need of something.

2005
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 3: He's gonna play twenty to. TWENTY five games i don't

2006
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 3: see a. Robust market there.

2007
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: What if you What if like cleveland, did something crazy,

2008
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 2: like you know and put Him Next. To evan mobley i'm.

2009
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 2: Just throwing out i'm grasping, at. Straws here.

2010
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 4: GUYS that's wild i feel like it's gonna end Up

2011
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 4: With THE cleveland when i can see the bones of the, basketball.

2012
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: Fit there that would be that.

2013
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 3: Would be amazing that's, a, Big.

2014
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 2: Risk Yeah, cleveland with cleveland they they didn't really have

2015
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 2: reliable rim Pressure Off. Of donovan mitchell they kind of

2016
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 2: got exposed as like half of their playoff rotation suddenly

2017
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: not looking good. In the Playoffs. THERE'S the cleveland i

2018
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 2: could it would be like a, wild Upside play but

2019
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 2: i'm just. Like, a package Yeah, what about miami but

2020
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 2: they're having the.

2021
01:36:55,560 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 3: RING for anybody.

2022
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 1: I Wonder, About nick phoenix but we Get reporting about

2023
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: miami That they wanted zion but they didn't want TO

2024
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 1: Give up i mayhawks, or like hey, what like.

2025
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah no chance.

2026
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:29,839
Speaker 3: Such, an astronomical talent but even not accounting, for the major,

2027
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 3: major health stuff he's always been a tricky guy to

2028
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 3: kind of figure out how. To build around because, What,

2029
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 3: you said jason like the stretch big who also. Protects

2030
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 3: the rim there's a handful, of those guys and you

2031
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 3: like really want one of Those, guys with zion so

2032
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 3: that in and of. Itself is weird and then like

2033
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 3: you want him to be like your de facto, point

2034
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 3: guard offensively so you want to put a bunch of

2035
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 3: shooting and rangy. Wings around him like it's, a LITTLE

2036
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 3: clunky and i just don't see people taking. On that

2037
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 3: risk what do you?

2038
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Guys think about this isn't. The cleanest fit What, about

2039
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: like detroit.

2040
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 2: That's, an interesting one but. It's the shooting. It's. The

2041
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 2: shooting Big, like with miami at least you could talk, Yourself,

2042
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 2: into like okay well this is the time to GET

2043
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 2: off of bam for. The most value because we know

2044
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 2: we're not, good enough YET we trade bam for. Assets

2045
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 2: in youth We look at zion and kelll where as

2046
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: basically our Stretch five in zion. Type of construct we

2047
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 2: bet on our culture and the Ability to keep. Zion

2048
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: IN shape but I feel like zion Would Be, like miami,

2049
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: miami like yeah like you say what you're.

2050
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 4: TRYING to, say i mean everyone's going to make the

2051
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 4: Same Jokes. About darren, queen and also, FOR the record

2052
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 4: i will not be, making those jokes but someone will

2053
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 4: Be Making These New orleans. New.

2054
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 2: Orleans jokes yeah that's that's that's a. Very good point

2055
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 2: number fourteen is going To Be The san antonio. Spurs

2056
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:49,799
Speaker 2: take here.

2057
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 4: They got some Good Options for carter briant.

2058
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 2: WOULD be Great I think carter bryant makes a. TON

2059
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 2: of sense i.

2060
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 3: Think that's got to be the vision is YOU'RE all

2061
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 3: in i he makes and obviously You, already have fox

2062
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 3: but you just want to stack as many good two

2063
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 3: way wings as you. Can Around that Core GUARD and,

2064
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 3: wemby i think and he's the best guy in that mold.

2065
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 3: ON the board I Do. LOVE meete clifford. I love

2066
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 3: him i, just think like even though he does wing

2067
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 3: stuff and he's, a great reboundary he's got, solid defensive

2068
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 3: tools like he is, still a guard like he's. A

2069
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 3: BALL handler and i don't know if they have room

2070
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 3: for another six six guard who wants to get into

2071
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 3: the paint a fair bit with the ball in his

2072
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 3: hands when they already have as We talked About harper And.

2073
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 3: Fox and castle but if, THEY did that i wouldn't

2074
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 3: BE mad because i. LOVE the talent I Think that

2075
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 3: carter bryant's. A, Cleaner, Fit Though.

2076
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah carter bryant FEELS like very nba archetype that they.

2077
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 4: NEED for sure i do think they're in a unique

2078
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 4: position where, if you're like let's try to take a

2079
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 4: while A slightly wild cardi pick because they have kind

2080
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 4: of so much going on already that that's how you

2081
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 4: talk yourself into A Guy. Like Neet Clifford but carter

2082
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 4: bryant feels like the, perf you know. Tried and true

2083
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 4: there's A Lot of carter BRYANT'S in the.

2084
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 2: NBA right now i like It in during wemby with

2085
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: BIG physical app i like a.

2086
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 3: Lot is a talent among the guys who. HAVEN'T gone

2087
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 3: yet i don't think there's room For Him. In san, antonio,

2088
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 3: and yeah yeah his slide's a little interesting because you

2089
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 3: can see the concerns just, with like, athletically you know

2090
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 3: is he going to be able, To hang defensively he's going.

2091
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 3: To get targeted it's kind of seeming like when you're,

2092
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 3: in that mold and it's kind of the same, thing

2093
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 3: with fears like you probably just need one team to

2094
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 3: be really high on you to take. You number seven

2095
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 3: but if that one, team isn't there you can see

2096
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 3: other teams being concerned about the red flags and then

2097
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 3: you do. Kind OF slide and i think that's Maybe

2098
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 3: happening with yakacona's not that he's, sliding crazy far but

2099
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 3: it's a little bit. Of A slide Rim I.

2100
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Think carter bryant's definitely to play here.

2101
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 3: Any.

2102
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: ANY front court i think they need a three. OR

2103
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: of four i think your guard. Spot's figured out you've got,

2104
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: your Five guy maybe sorber if you wanted like a

2105
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: backup Five, man for wemby but that's not really as big.

2106
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 4: Of a concern. I'm.

2107
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: SO not oh I love how sorber is. A big

2108
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: body i love how. Physical he is he is a

2109
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: he's like a throwback. KIND of guy i Just like

2110
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: his he plays nasty and he's gonna he's gonna be

2111
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 1: like the eighth heaviest dude in the. League day one

2112
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: he's like two hundred and. Sixty three pounds, he's a.

2113
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: BIG nasty. DUDE i liked i want that guy.

2114
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 2: On my team we're obviously going to be calling it

2115
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 2: quits here in, A few minutes so is there any

2116
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 2: other guy that you guys have on your boards that

2117
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,560
Speaker 2: you want to shout out before we call? It a?

2118
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Day any shoutouts any, guys that's, like you know we're

2119
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:29,600
Speaker 2: not going to be on the stream long enough to,

2120
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 2: hit THIS guy but i want to get a chance

2121
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 2: to shout out This guy that. I'm, HIGH on.

2122
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: Yes I Love. Walter clayton junior he may very well be.

2123
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: A bad archetype. I don't care I think PEOPLE i

2124
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: said i Would have taken clayton in the top Ten

2125
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: just because i'm so confident in him being a. REALLY

2126
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 1: good player i know that a lot of people feel like,

2127
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that's a reach but, really good shooter. Really good feel

2128
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: my two concerns with him are obviously defensively is, a

2129
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: smaller guard and then some of. The rim finishing he was,

2130
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,600
Speaker 1: good this year but his Past years At, florida and

2131
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: iona he was like under fifty five percent as. A

2132
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: rim finisher so don't, get me wrong there are red Flags,

2133
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 1: there with clayton but he's. An elite elite he's, A

2134
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: SPECIAL shooter like i think, that GETS overused but. I

2135
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: DON'T know When I, watch walter clayton he makes, Me feel,

2136
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 1: tingly so Yeah. SHOUT out walter i think he's gonna,

2137
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 1: be GOOD immediately but i think there's definitely.

2138
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 3: Some Upside here Yaka Chonas, and neee clifford but those

2139
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,600
Speaker 3: are my two favorite guys left, on the board with

2140
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 3: yakazonas one of the. Higher offensive ceilings this is a

2141
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 3: guy who could potentially be, an elite shooter who is

2142
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 3: definitely an elite space creator for himself as, a jump

2143
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 3: shooter but the shot selection. Can be tough the jump

2144
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 3: shot efficiency really went down later, in the year although

2145
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 3: he did. Have AN injury but i think there's indicators

2146
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: that he's a. Really good shooter and then he's a

2147
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 3: really good below, the rim finisher really, good foul drawer

2148
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 3: gets to the, rim a bunch and one of the

2149
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 3: best passers. In the class the concerns would, be high

2150
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 3: turnover gonna, get targeted defensively how good? Is The shit

2151
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 3: but i'm an. Optimist with him And, THEN he clifford

2152
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 3: i just think is a great du. At all guard

2153
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 3: he's twenty three, and a half so you understand that

2154
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 3: the ceiling, isn't the highest but. He can create he

2155
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 3: can knock down shots, off the dribble, off the catch,

2156
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 3: he can drive. He can facilitate he's a. Great rebounding

2157
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 3: wing so those are my. TWO favorite guys.

2158
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 2: I like those.

2159
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 4: Guys as well it's gonna Be, annoying if okay so

2160
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 4: he gets either one, of those GUYS because either i

2161
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 4: Mean Not that yaka jonas feely fits in, their classic

2162
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 4: archetype but sliding him in a round a bunch of

2163
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 4: great defensive players and it's like. This connective place maybe

2164
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 4: awesome and they. NEED ball handling i think he'd be,

2165
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 4: awesome for okay maybe we should stay on through. The,

2166
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 4: PICK fifteen yeah i got. LIKE those guys i Also

2167
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 4: Like the stanford, BIG right now. I don't know his

2168
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 4: game is so awkward and, funky and weird but he

2169
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 4: doesn't a lot of things. AND he's ginormous.

2170
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 2: I Love it carter Bryant To The. San antonio spurs it's.

2171
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 3: The RIGHT pick and, i, Think That like carter bryant's

2172
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 3: a guy who some people got a little high on,

2173
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 3: for my taste but he ends up, going AT fourteen

2174
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 3: and i think that that's a really good range and.

2175
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 3: A value pick like, he wasn't productive he didn't have

2176
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 3: a big role. As a freshman BUT even though i

2177
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 3: have definitely reservations about what level of offensive player, he

2178
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 3: can be there's. Really no creation but, even, beyond that,

2179
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 3: like you know what level of close out attacker is he?

2180
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 3: Going to be is he gonna have any sort of

2181
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 3: intermediate game playing off of attacking clothes outs playing? With

2182
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 3: an advantage he projects to be a. Pretty good shooter

2183
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 3: he projects to be, an awesome, defender good, cutter good

2184
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 3: feel solid connective pass or. Good transition score like just

2185
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 3: a high floor guy and an archetype. That YOU like

2186
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 3: and i think he's exactly the kind Of player. That

2187
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 3: spurs need we were just talking about a big Athletic

2188
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 3: wings around wemby. IN your guards i think it's.

2189
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: The RIGHT pick so i am loving the idea Of Yakachonas.

2190
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 2: IN oklahoma city i think this makes a. TON of

2191
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 2: sense I think that indiana with, their ball pressure exposed

2192
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 2: A Weakness within oklahoma city's roster in just their ability

2193
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 2: to put the ball on the floor and eight For

2194
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 2: others Beyond Shae, AND ja dubb i think that this

2195
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:07,839
Speaker 2: is just a ball handler that can help set up teammates.

2196
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 2: For quality shots brings a little bit of that. Pull,

2197
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 2: up shooting obviously the jump shot didn't go in at

2198
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 2: the highest rate that he'll need to get TO at,

2199
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 2: the NBA level but i think that makes a lot

2200
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: of sense to anybody else on this board that you

2201
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: guys think Makes. Sense, for okay see and before we,

2202
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 2: get INTO This like i i've talked about, this CONCEPT

2203
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 2: before but I Think as oklahoma city looks, to shed

2204
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 2: salary the way that they'll do it is by not

2205
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: spending on role players. BEYOND rookie contracts i think it'll

2206
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 2: be a, LOT Of chet J dub and shay and

2207
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 2: then just cycling. Through rookie contracts, the, occasional like oh we,

2208
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 2: love this guy so we'll package two or three first

2209
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 2: to trade up in the draft to get the right.

2210
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Kind of guy but, in many cases right here in

2211
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 2: the middle of the first round is where you can find,

2212
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 2: the fourth year fifth year college guy who played in

2213
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 2: a really good system and is ready to play in.

2214
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,560
Speaker 2: A winning context so anybody else Here that Makes OKLAHOMA.

2215
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 3: Lot and i think what A lot of thunder fans

2216
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 3: might Say to, the yakallas pick this is What We have.

2217
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 3: Nikola topich for and, if, you say okay well we

2218
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 3: want to take multiple. SHOTS at that i can see

2219
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 3: that vision because clearly ball handling. IS in need i

2220
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 3: think a lot of them are, high ON him and

2221
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 3: I did like. TOPICH a lot i thought he was

2222
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 3: a really, good value pick so it's always a gamble

2223
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,600
Speaker 3: when you're in trusting a. Rookie with that but the

2224
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 3: same would Be. Said FOR yakachona so i can see that,

2225
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 3: argument for sure and the talent. Is Definitely There, WITH

2226
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 3: nick clifford i just think you got a guy who

2227
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 3: can do some. Handling for you but it's also just

2228
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 3: Like such a thunder, kind of player where he's that

2229
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 3: do it all big guard has the length to be solid,

2230
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 3: defensively IN rebound and i can just see pressed he

2231
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 3: falling in love, with those, measurables that versatility the epitome

2232
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 3: of like pro ready again twenty three. And a half

2233
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 3: you know what you're. Getting with him that was actually

2234
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 3: the pick that. We, mocked to okay, see AT fifteen

2235
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 3: and i would very much like to see.

2236
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 2: Them, take, him okay dude ten rebounds a game as

2237
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 2: a non center in college and.

2238
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 3: Ninety fifth Percentile, Isolation, creator jason like. He's got game

2239
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 3: obviously you could talk, about the competition But he's. Not

2240
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 3: Joe competition colorado state was a good quality tournament team

2241
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 3: and he was part of that in like they won.

2242
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,679
Speaker 3: A tournament game they were very competitive in the second

2243
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 3: they Want a tournament like he's got. The creation juice

2244
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 3: but they're also sort. Of emotion offense there's a lot,

2245
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 3: of ball movements so he can play off, The BALL

2246
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 3: too like i. Really.

2247
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 4: LIKE him yeah i also think speaking of trying to

2248
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 4: draft players that they cannot so they can shed some.

2249
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 4: Of these salaries if a lot of like they're gonna

2250
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 4: have To move up, hartenstein very soon, Talk From them

2251
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 4: so sorber would be a guy who sort of fits,

2252
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 4: this like rookie big body centered type that maybe isn't

2253
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 4: it's gonna they don't want to, Be a starter but

2254
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,839
Speaker 4: if you've got to go Up Against the denver nuggets

2255
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 4: again in two seasons and he's maybe ready for that

2256
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 4: sort of type of battle in a, season there two

2257
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 4: it could. He makes sense it's sort of just like

2258
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,959
Speaker 4: a find a role player big in, the DRAFT type because.

2259
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 3: I DO think that's i think. There's three Archetypes that's

2260
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 3: why i'm not. More ball handling it's, an elite shooter

2261
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 3: or it's a big Who can replace hartenstein and give

2262
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:01,640
Speaker 3: us those. Quality backup minutes.

2263
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 2: So you don't think they're ever going to be looking

2264
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 2: for a traditional foreman, at any point because they still

2265
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 2: don't really have one on The. Roster beyond chet if he,

2266
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 2: becomes THAT guy, like i like who's the guy that's

2267
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 2: gonna feel like if they needed To Throw an aaron

2268
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 2: gordon esque type of, defender at somebody, just, a, big,

2269
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 2: physical strong like are they just counting on JDub to?

2270
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: Be?

2271
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 2: THAT guy like i think that's part of their rebounding

2272
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 2: issues that they have, over the years is that they

2273
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 2: don't have like a six eight to six.

2274
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 4: Ten rangey forward I kind of like. Newell in that,

2275
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 4: spot because of that he Sort Of feels like, brandon

2276
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 4: clark to me is sort of this sort of like

2277
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 4: filling all these stop gaps and be an athlete and

2278
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 4: get a bunch of rebounds and HOPEFULLY one day.

2279
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 3: GROSS i see that i also think like would have

2280
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 3: been a. GUY in that mold i. Did, see him

2281
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 3: mocked okay, see a fair bit but he's OFF the board.

2282
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 3: NOW i see it i just think this would be

2283
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 3: a little high for me in. Terms of the value

2284
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 3: i'm just questioning some of where does he fit, in

2285
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 3: KIND side ball because i do think he's, More OF

2286
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 3: a four like i don't think he can anchor. The

2287
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 3: five for, you and then offensively does he have the perimeter,

2288
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 3: Skill to justify that like there's, the flashes of touch

2289
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 3: but he's not going to be enough to. BE a

2290
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 3: real foundation i have. Some OF those questions but i

2291
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,080
Speaker 3: see what, We're. SAYING for sure jason i mean that

2292
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 3: was my thought last offseason, is go out there get

2293
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 3: that like more powerful big forward, to play the four

2294
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 3: so you keep chat at the, Five because long term

2295
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 3: chet's going to. Be at the five there's not a

2296
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 3: ton of those, guys out THERE though and like i

2297
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 3: would love To See. Them get cam johnson he's not that,

2298
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,680
Speaker 3: kind of power player but he has the size and.

2299
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,799
Speaker 3: Obviously the elite shooting he's not a great positional rebounder,

2300
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 3: Though for his size, so he's a four but. He's

2301
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 3: really a wing.

2302
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 2: You're right that it's a. Rare position like, that like

2303
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 2: this is honestly why a Big part of Why I'm

2304
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 2: excited About. Kevin durant and houston like it's just so

2305
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:50,759
Speaker 2: rare to have a four man that can legitimately play

2306
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 2: offense at a bunch of different, spots on the floor

2307
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 2: but that can get a defensive rebound and that can

2308
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,639
Speaker 2: make a help side. Rotation at the rim like those

2309
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 2: are pretty rare qualities AT. The in, the nba and

2310
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 2: like even at thirty seven years old, Going Into next

2311
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 2: season kevin durant can get a defensive rebound and he

2312
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 2: can protect the rim and out, Of that FOUR spot

2313
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 2: and so i think, there's REAL value THERE and i

2314
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 2: am i am Curious To see if oklahoma city ends

2315
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 2: up ever filling that archetype or if, they just, plan

2316
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 2: on you know a, lot of, It is you know,

2317
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 2: chet's offensive development too like if he speeds up his

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01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 2: release and becomes, a more you know a better ball

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01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 2: handler in traffic and some of the things that really

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01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 2: exposed his offensive issues. IN this postseason run i think

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01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 2: if some of those, things come to fruition then they wouldn't.

2322
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 2: Need to do that. The pick is in We Will get,

2323
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 2: Our oklahoma city pick, we'll react to it and then

2324
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: we will. Call it A day any other nba draft

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01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 2: takes you, GUYS wanted, to unleash i well we.

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01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:45,720
Speaker 3: CALL it a day i feel like there hasn't been

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01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 3: a ton of. SURPRISES outside of that i really. Did

2328
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 3: not like that that.

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01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 2: Was That was the most that was the best celebration we. Saw,

2330
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 2: That all day.

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01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 3: Clearly i'm missing that.

2332
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 2: And as the?

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01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 1: Biggest whoa, FROM us you, know, i do Like uh

2334
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: you like, bearringer a. Little bit big man he's. Only, been,

2335
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: PLAYING bass yeah No i can't say I'm. From the

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01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 1: south man we're gonna were gonna give it a little.

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01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Dirty touch to it he's he defends, like a wild,

2338
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: man like he's uh he's only been playing basketball for.

2339
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 2: FOUR years fifteen case.

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01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 4: I think it's solid that's the KIND of team, That,

2341
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 4: I feel like again I wasn't, a big sober fan

2342
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 4: but that's the.

2343
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 1: Perfect kind, of situation, good defender good, rebounder like defensive

2344
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: playmaker and he's he. Is big and nasty he, is

2345
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 1: BIG and nasty and i think it'll. Translate, TO the

2346
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: playoffs also i, Like, you were saying jackson sorry not, To.

2347
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Cut.

2348
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 1: You off carson uh if they do got To move

2349
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: off the hardenstein money to clear. UP some contract space

2350
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: i think he could be a.

2351
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 3: Good, guy filling can pass you can run handoffs and

2352
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 3: spot cutters and. DO stuff like that i think he

2353
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 3: can do some. Of that for you he's he's a.

2354
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 3: Nice two way player like the, ceiling IS pretty low

2355
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 3: But i don't think okayse really cares about. THAT at

2356
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 3: this point i think they're trying to find a guy

2357
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 3: who can play, that role for them and it's one

2358
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 3: of the. Needs We talked about so. I'm good with, it.

2359
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 2: To your point we had discussed we had discussed the

2360
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:18,799
Speaker 2: idea of like going with more, of like a wing

2361
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 2: But This is an oklahoma city team that has an

2362
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 2: enormous amount of depth, at that position already whereas. At the,

2363
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 2: center position you Know Obviously, they have jalen williams who

2364
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:31,600
Speaker 2: played spottingly, sparingly throughout the postseason but like this is

2365
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 2: a position where like they might actually have some more

2366
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: use use for him, in the short term especially like

2367
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,600
Speaker 2: if you look At a situation where hartenstein is no

2368
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 2: longer on the books in a couple of, YEARS any

2369
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 2: other things.

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01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 3: I wonder How far you, Can oh my god minnesota.

2371
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 3: Could actually be amazing like just take a swing. On,

2372
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 3: a ball handler yeah.

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01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 2: That's a good point, a. Backup ball handler.

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01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 4: Dude, he should be there frankly to be their starting

2375
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 4: point guard. In like two seasons.

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01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 2: And THERE'S like a memphis i would assume Is Still Looking.

2377
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 2: At scottie pippen jr as. Their backup Ball handler they

2378
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 2: Do memphis does need oh they Traded. That, pick To portland,

2379
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 2: okay That's portland's pick and portland just literally got rid

2380
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 2: of a ball handler The Clean, space for scoot henderson

2381
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 2: so they'll probably. Go, a different Direction yeah yakatonas to

2382
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: minnesota is a really interesting. And really, interesting, Option all

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01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 2: right guys that is all.

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01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 4: We have.

2385
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,440
Speaker 2: FOR today almost.

2386
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:34,879
Speaker 3: Too i think that we hold the top ten spots

2387
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 3: for the. Longest shows in history.

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01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 2: We might have. To look into that WE'D have to

2389
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 2: check espn stats. At info real, quick but as always

2390
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 2: we appreciate you guys for supporting us. AND supporting the

2391
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 2: show i plan on recording a mail bag tomorrow, and

2392
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,679
Speaker 2: draft related stuff so we'll take questions. From these YouTube comments.

2393
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 2: Will also take questions i'll send it out a. Tweet

2394
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: asking for questions but tomorrow we're. Recording. A mail bag

2395
01:53:57,439 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 2: again that's all. We have, for today as always we

2396
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys supporting us, and supporting the show and

2397
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 2: we will. See you guys. Tomorrow what's, UP guys as

2398
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 2: always i appreciate you for LISTENING to. And supporting oops

2399
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: tonight it would actually be really helpful for us if

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01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 2: you guys would take a second and leave a. Rating and,

2401
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,559
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01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,000
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01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 2: I'd really appreciate it

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