1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast dropped out of the School 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks. Welcome back to another edition of the 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hands, and 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm joined by a room filled with heroes, Chris Wessling 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. No, Mark Sessler a little bit under 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: the weather. Not as full of heroes as usual. No, 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: we're missing thirty three. No, we're missing of our heroes. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Uh if I include myself and um, which I don't 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: normally do, but Mark hanging there, you know, never give up, 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be planning to benefit for your recovery. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: And you missed the game of the year. Is that 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: the game of the year Broncos Cowboys so far? I 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: think it absolutely is. Yeah, I think so. I think 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: that's a game that you will remember ten years from now, 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: not maybe as some type of iconic game, but you'll remember, oh, 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: that shootout game that was crazy because it was it 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: was wild game. It was you know, it flirted with 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: a potential double fifty burger which had never happened. The 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: final score ultimately was the Broncos move to five and oh, um, 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: you know there's so many storylines with this with the 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Broncos right now, But to me, the biggest storyline is 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Tony Romo because he was having the game of his life. 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: He was actually having one of the greatest games of 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: all time. He threw for five yards, uh five touchdowns, 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: and then he did it. He threw an interception at 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: the end of the game that cost him and that 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: led to all sorts of hell breaking loose on Twitter 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: as expected. What do we take out of this for 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: poor Tony Romo. Well, I I can't kill him for 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: making that pass. We were talking about this in the 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: news room. He's tripping over an offensive lineman's feet while 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: he decides to throw the interception. How do you process 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: that information that quickly to say, oh no, maybe I 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't throw this pass. So I can't really kill him 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: for that. He thought it was a bad pass, that 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: he should have led the receiver more. It was a 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: bad throw. I mean, it's a bad decision, I think 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: more than anything. Uh, But he played such a great game, 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: and let's give Danny Trevathan some credit. That was an 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: incredible interception. I don't think that play is intercepted more 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: than once out of twenty times. When he throws that pass. 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he dove, he cut across the receiver after 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: the ball is thrown. But of course it all comes 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: back to before the possession even started. You know, people 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: are saying, oh, in our news room, it's Romo time. 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: Here's where the big mistake comes. And then the big 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: mistake comes first of all, Um, uh, Danny Trevathan. All 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: he has to do is make like seven more plays 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: like this year, like that this year, so we could 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: forget about the drop six. But yeah, he's a good player. 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, that was not a terrible pass. But 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: on the other side, on the other side of the ball, 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, he's doing it again. He actually throw an interception, 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: so he's not perfect. They're five and oh now they 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: have what I like to think of as a half 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: by next week against the Jacksonville Jaguars at home. Him, um, 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: that will make them six. And oh, are we started 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: to get excited yet? Because winning a game like this 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and Greg, you know this very well from the two 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: thousand seven Patriots, winning a game like this, you have 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: to win a couple like this, and this is one 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: of them. It doesn't excite me that much because it's 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: only you know, five games into the season, and this 64 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: showed what I've thought it's gonna show up, which is 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: that the defense is mediocre. Now, they were missing a 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: lot of people in this game, but they haven't been 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: great this year. They've been Okay, They're not going to 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: get all these special teams touchdowns and trendon holiday going 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: crazy all year. They are a great, great offense. I 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: don't know if we've seen an offense like this, They're 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the best of all time. I 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna challenge going you don't know, I 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: don't think so. That's just this is what happens. Uh, 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: you lose a couple along the way. They easily could 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: have lost today, but they didn't. Yeah, and this offense 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: is a cover all for so much. You could be really, 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: really dreadful on defense like they were today and they 78 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: could still win. I have to bring it back to 79 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Rome Mo though for a minute, just because I I 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: don't think the narrative of him choking late in games 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: is fair at all. But I do think if you're 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan and you're a Romo apologist and Romo defender, 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: you have to admit lately it's an organizational thing that 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: they can't close out big wins. They have a chance, 85 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: and they get close to having that big win and 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. You know, the regular season ended last 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: year with Romo throwing picks week one, uh not week 88 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: one this year, but the game against the Chiefs. I 89 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: thought he played great for three quarters, had a really 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: bad fourth quarter, and then he throws the interception today. 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: So that's a trend. That's three of your most recent 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: losses that they haven't been able to finish out. Here's 93 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: one thing also with Romo, and I agree there's a 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: trend here, but they are in this game. Toll tells 95 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: you that this is the best team in the NFC East. 96 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: There's no reason why the Cowboys should not win this division. 97 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: And he's gonna get a chance to uh fix his reputation, 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: hopefully for Tony's sake in January, but already a big 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: run in the playoffs. This is always who he's gonna 100 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: be known, how he's gonna be known, And he doesn't 101 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: do himself any favors because he always chooses the biggest 102 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: moments to make these one players that wipe out usually 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: stellar performances before that. Jason Garrett called it the best 104 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: game of Tony Romo's career, and you can make a 105 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: case that's true, but that kind of says a lot 106 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: because you could say that after a game where you 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: had such a bad ending. Yeah, I think one last 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: point on Peyton Manning. I was covering the Carolina Arizona 109 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: game while also watching this game, and the difference between 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: Manning and Newton was striking. He's got the cannon, and 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: he's so athletic, and he's so inaccurate, and he doesn't anticipate, 112 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: and he's got that Brandon Weeden problem where there's no 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: touch on his passes. And then we were talking in 114 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: the newsroom about what would the draft nicks say about 115 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's arm if he was coming out of the 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: draft this year. His arm is I think it's now 117 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: the weakest in the NFL of any starter. But he's 118 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: winning with you know, blitz, recognition, time, mean accuracy, touch, 119 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: and he's just playing like he's playing quarterback like we've 120 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: never seen before. He's playing like Chad Pennington dreamed of ever, 121 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: playing like the greatest Chad Pennington of all time. He's 122 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: a rich man's Chad Pennington is the richest man in 123 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: the world's Chad Pennington. Yes, okay, so we have a 124 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of games to get to on Sunday. Uh, Let's 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: let's start in Chicago where uh Drew Brees was nearly 126 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: perfect again. Jimmy Graham continues as an historic pace right now, 127 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: four straight one yard games a tight end. The Saints 128 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: are five and oheen win over the Bears. Greg, you 129 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: watched it. Just another you know, piece of evidence that 130 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: this Saints team is great. That there, it's weird to 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: think about there, but they're one of the most complete 132 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, which is strange because they don't 133 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: have a running game, but unlike the Broncos, they have 134 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: a difference making defense. And we kept waiting for it, 135 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: uh to you know, turn into a pumpkin and it's 136 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: not as great. But today they were dominating in that game. Now, 137 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: in the end, if you look at the box score, 138 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Cutler put up numbers Alison Jeffrey goes over to h yards. 139 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: But the Saints defense dictated that game for three quarters. 140 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: They didn't blitz much most of this season, but they 141 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: blitzed a ton today and it really worked well. Cutler 142 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: got hit a lot, he was confused, and the Saints offense, 143 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: even though they don't have a running game, controls the 144 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: ball this short passing and at time of possession. They 145 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: entered this game number one in the league. They had 146 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: They held the ball for thirty six minutes. They played 147 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: keep away today and it just shows they can win 148 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: different sorts of games. This is on the road, on 149 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: grass against a tough opponent, and it really wasn't that close. 150 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: I was excited to see after the game, we got 151 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: our chance to see Brandon Marshall, talent evaluator, called all 152 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Sean Jeffrey uh could be one of the best receivers 153 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: ever and expects him to break all the Bears receiving records. 154 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: This is the same Brandon Marshall who also said last 155 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: year that Devin Hester was going to be the best 156 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver on the Bears team that he was on. 157 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: You can take some positives if you're a Bears fan. 158 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Jeffrey was sensational in this game. He is so good 159 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: at taking the ball out of the air on a 160 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: tough on a tough throw by Jake Cutler. Uh. So 161 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: that's the positive there. They didn't take the ball away 162 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: at all. This is the first game this year that 163 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: the Bears defense didn't force at least three turnovers, didn't 164 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: force any. This is what kind of happens to the 165 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: Bears defense when they don't first turnovers. They're not that great. 166 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask a question of both of you guys. Um, 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of an unfair question, but you know whatever, Um, 168 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: who do you think deserves more credit for this five 169 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: and oh start Sean Payton being back or Rob Ryan 170 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: coming in and kind of redoing this defense. Of those 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: two options, I'd say rob Ryan. I can't disagree with that. Now, 172 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: I would say Drew Brees and Jimmy Grant is there 173 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: the most credit. I mean, Graham, how many tight ends 174 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: are the biggest vertical threats on the team. They can't 175 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: throw it to anyone deep. They started Robert Meetchum and 176 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: uh Kenny Stills today. I believe you know Nick Tune 177 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: and Robert meets Um we're in the starting lineup today. 178 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: This is not a good wide receiver group. Graham's the 179 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: only guy that made any play is down the field. 180 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: And yet there's still Dominie. Yeah. I mean we talked 181 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: about it before the season. I remember thinking that if 182 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: they could even become a middle of the pack, defense. 183 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: Rob Ryan. That's that will be a huge career boon 184 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: to him. And if he has any any hopes of 185 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: being a head coach in this league, I mean he's doing. 186 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: None of us ever pictured that the Saints would forget 187 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: about being mediocre. They're legitimately a good defense right now. 188 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm shocked. You guys know I doubted them, 189 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I don't do that anymore. But they've proven 190 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: they've proven me wrong. Kenny mccarro is another key guy 191 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: for them. He had a sack today, another past defensive 192 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: tackle for loss. He's making plays. He he might be 193 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the best player other than Cameron Jordan on that defense. 194 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: And I'm done picking against the Saints and I'm I'm 195 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: totally sold on them now. This was a really nice 196 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: win for them. So congratulations, guys, I'm on your side. 197 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: Uh let's move on to Indianapolis. Here's another here's a 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: nice win. I watched this game the Andrew Luck, uh 199 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: their teams to be reckoned with they handed the Seahawks 200 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: their for this loss of this season. Uh. Luck's only 201 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: been around for less than the season and a half, 202 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: but this was his ninth fourth quarter comeback at the 203 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Culture now four and one, and I think they're a 204 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: worthy true a f C contender factor fiction. Oh that's 205 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that's a fact. Yeah, I thought that going into the week, 206 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: although I picked him to win. Tell us a little 207 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: bit about the Richard Sherman, t Y Hilton, Reggie Wayne factor. 208 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I haven't got to see this. Well, I wouldn't say 209 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: that Sherman played a terrible game, although I it should 210 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: be said, maybe another look at the game tape, maybe 211 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: he did have a bad game. What I do know 212 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: is that t Y Hilton went off t Y Hilton, 213 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: who were big fans of here and around the league. Uh, 214 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: he went for a hundred and forty yards. Targeted six 215 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: times at five catches for a hundred and forty yards 216 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. This guy is a star. Uh. He 217 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: might even be the best wide receiver on this team 218 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: at this point. Easy, easy there. He hasn't done anything 219 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: this year before now. No, I think he's just a guy. 220 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: I've got to watch him a lot. I really, I 221 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: really do think he's on the verge of just exploding 222 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: for a long stretch of big games. And uh, you know, 223 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Sherman talks a big game, but he got beat on 224 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: a key third down conversion for to Reggie Wayne as well. 225 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean that that was It was just a great 226 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: game by the by the Colts, and it was a 227 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: great quarterback battle between Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck. They 228 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: both made a ton of big throws. Russell Wilson ran 229 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: for over a hundred yards for the first time in 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: his career, and I was really impressed by his ability. 231 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: He just has an uncanny sense to win, to bail 232 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: on a pocket and he killed the Colts all all 233 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: day that way. So this is just a great game 234 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: between two very good teams. And uh, you know, the 235 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Seahawks are still good on the road, but they're not 236 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: great like they are at home. They can't pass rushers. 237 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: Can't have a more uh frustrating matchup right now than 238 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. You get pressure on him and he just 239 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: leaves the pocket and gets the first down. I know 240 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you are a big Trent Richardson fan, Dan, What is 241 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: the Trent Richardson update? Dan? Dan loves to tell us 242 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: all with glee and his eyes about how poorly Trent 243 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: Richardson is doing week after week that, well, that's not 244 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: quite accurate, Greg, because I do I'm fascinated by the 245 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: Trent Richardson trade because I think it's one of the 246 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: more interesting mid season moves in recent NFL history. And 247 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: the funny thing about richards And he did actually, for 248 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: the first time in a long time, get to the 249 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: second level on a defense a couple of times. I 250 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: think he had a sixteen yard run, which was almost 251 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: a little bit jarring to see happen because it's been 252 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: so long. But at the end of the day, you 253 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: look at the stat line, eighteen carries, fifty six yards, 254 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: three point one yards per carry. I feel like he 255 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: runs with three point one yards per carry every game. 256 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: It's and I understand it gets the Seahawks defense. What 257 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: do you what do you expect? But wait a second, 258 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: you traded a first round pick to get him. We 259 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: have that's three games now where he's a three yard 260 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: per Carrie rusher. I will just say that he would 261 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: kill to have the running lanes that no Sean Marino 262 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: has with McCoy. Yes, um, okay, let's let's move on. 263 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: Chris Westling. You watched the Carolina path just continue to 264 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: go down in flames. Cam Newton sacks seven times, including 265 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: once for safety. He got picked off three times. Cardinals 266 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: win twenty two six. What are we supposed to take 267 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: from this game? Well, on the Cardinal's side, you know, 268 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: they're defenders came out this week and I kind of 269 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: raised my eyes at this that they said Daryl Washington 270 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: is the best player in their defense, over Patrick Peterson, 271 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: over clay As Campbell, Darnell Dockett, and Daryl Washington made 272 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: a big impact today. He had two sacks, He had 273 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: a really athletic interception in the red zone that basically 274 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: kept the Panthers from any hope of coming back in 275 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: the game. They this defense is the reason why the 276 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Panthers are only one game out of first place in 277 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: the West. And on the Panthers side, Cam Newton started sharp. 278 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: They dropped Steve Smith, dropped the touchdown, Brandon Lafel dropped 279 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: the fourth down in the red zone, and then after 280 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: that Newton uh kind of went in the tank. He 281 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: just didn't pass well at all in the second half 282 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: of the game. With Rod Rivera watched that has to 283 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: be arting up soon, right right. They he this team 284 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: isn't really doing anything on offense. The defense played fine, 285 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer had a bad game, but Newton I mean, 286 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: I think probably more more quickly than we expected. We're 287 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: gonna start to hear about whether he should be benched 288 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: or not. Wow, come on, I don't think he's playing 289 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: well well. I'm just impressed that the Cardinals managed to 290 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: survive the Levi Brown trade. I mean, it's like the 291 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: emotions for them. Palmer was only sacked twice. So the 292 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense, so were they any better at all? I mean, 293 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: I still feel even though the Cardinals are three and 294 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: two in areas doing great job, I feel like the 295 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: Panthers are the story here at one in three. The 296 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense was terrible to do. They didn't do anything. 297 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Andrea Ellington was the only player that stood out. Uh, 298 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: they're using him pretty well. I imagine he will eat 299 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: into Mendenhall's touches soon. With with the Panthers, you kind 300 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: of see why bad organizations are bad. Because Ron Rivera 301 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: has done a great job building the defense that he 302 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: always wanted. It's taken him a few years and now 303 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: he's a defensive coach. And now that defense is there 304 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: and it's ready, and it's ready to win a Super Bowl. 305 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the defense is good enough to do that. 306 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: But he has no clue what to do with the offense, 307 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna get fired because of it. And then 308 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the next guy is gonna come in and he'll switch 309 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: everything around, and then three years later we'll be in 310 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: the same place. It reminds me of the Lovey Smith 311 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: or Chicago Bears, Yeah, which Rivera was part of that 312 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: coaching staff, and the Bears never could figure out their 313 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: offense during that era. And this seems exactly what's going 314 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: on with the Panthers. You know, I was wondering why 315 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler came down ill, but then I just realized 316 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: one of the games he watched, he had he had 317 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: to watch the Jaguars, And it's becoming something within the 318 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: A t L Group dynamic. Nobody wants to be stuck 319 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. He too. He fell on the grenade though, 320 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: and look what happened to him though he's bedridden. Uh, 321 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: and this was a particularly grim Jaguars afternoon. They lost 322 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: the Rams. We expected that, but you know, it even 323 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: gets blame. Gabert injured his hamstring, you know, so Mr 324 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: Glass has hurt again. But even more importantly, they trade 325 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: Eugene Monroe in large parts so they can move Luke 326 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: jokel from right to left tackle and what happens. Jocol 327 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: breaks his ankle. He's out for the year. It's just 328 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: like everything they do turns to hell. I feel bad 329 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: for Jaguars fans. They deserve better. Chad Henny came in 330 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: for Gabbert, but after the game UM got Gus Bradley. 331 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: The coach said Gabert will remain the starter if he's healthy, 332 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: So I just I don't know how this is gonna change. 333 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: Justin Blackman gave him a shot in the arm. That's good. 334 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I guess Zach Stacy is the big hot fantasy pickup 335 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: if you didn't grab him before the game. The Rams 336 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: starting running back at an okay game. I don't know 337 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: if we learned too much from this one. The first 338 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: time all year the Rams have been able to run 339 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: the ball, so I imagine we will see Zack Stacy 340 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: going forward. First, Zack Stacy mentioned on the podcast The 341 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Jack It's clear the Jaguars are gonna be an a 342 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: lixer for a lot of teams. The Rams needed this win, 343 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: but I'm not ready to get back on the Rams 344 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: span wagon at this point. It Um all right, let's 345 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: move on. Greg This is a tough one for you. Uh. 346 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: The New England Patriots lost their first game of the season. 347 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady lost his streak of fifty two straight games. 348 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: Throwing a touchdown past the Bengals snapped that six win 349 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. What did you take out of it? See? 350 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: This was the opposite of the Broncos Cowboys game. It 351 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: was all defense, no offense. But I thought it was 352 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: a great game. No one's gonna say this was a 353 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: great game because it was. No one scored until a 354 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: couple of minutes left in the first half. But the 355 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: two defenses were just dominated. It's one of the better 356 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: Patriots defensive performances in a while. But the Bengals just 357 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: physically overwhelmed the offensive line early. Mike Zimmer threw a 358 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: lot of blitz is at them. Brady got hit early 359 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: and often reminded me a little bit of the Super 360 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Bowls where he gets rattled. He missed a lot of 361 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: throws when they were there. He missed the throws. And 362 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: no one's gonna give Andy Dalton any credit in this 363 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: game because the stats weren't unbelievable. But he made three 364 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: or four really big plays, one with his feet a 365 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: couple throws on third and long in the second half, 366 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 1: and those were the game winning type of play, So 367 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: I give him credit. I give Marvin Lewis credit for 368 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: going fourth and goal at the half yard line, and 369 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: it was a great win for the Bengals. Do we 370 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: think the Bengals are just one of those teams that's 371 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: much better playing at home because they've given Aaron Rodgers 372 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady basically the worst games they've had in 373 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: the past few years at home, but then they loose 374 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: to the Browns on the road. Well, the defense played 375 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: pretty well against the Browns. Did not have and it 376 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: wasn't quite this not quite this great, But the defense 377 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: has been consistent. So if I was a Bengals fan, 378 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: I'd pretty pretty encouraged after this. One was a kind 379 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: of a win they needed to get and they got it. 380 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: And I think for Brady, this is a couple of 381 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: games he hasn't played too well. He didn't play great 382 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: in the win against the Bucks. I thought he's missed 383 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: some throws earlier this season. Uh, you know, they need 384 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: Gronkowski back. They're a different team with him, are there. 385 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I remember the game the Jets game was a great 386 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: example of this where Brady was very visibly upset. Where 387 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: there are a lot of miscommunications with the receivers today 388 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: or is it just he was off? Yeah, there was 389 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: a few of that on the last drive. There was 390 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: one with Dobson. He went one way, Brady expected him 391 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: to go to another. But there were more mis throws, 392 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: There was a couple of drops. It was a little 393 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: bit of everything. Uh, But I think this one was 394 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: more on Brady. He he called it, you know, inexcusable 395 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: execution errors. I think he was really talking about his throws, 396 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: are my guesses. But he probably was frustrated with the 397 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: young guys too. And you know, they can't wait till Gronkowski. 398 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: They needed a guy like Veren today, uh, and they 399 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: just didn't have him alright. Moving on in Miami, the 400 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: Ravens had a nice bounce back win over the Dolphins, 401 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: who three and oh seems like a long time ago 402 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: already now. Uh, this is typical resilience for the Ravens 403 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: and the John Harborough era. There now one and seven 404 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: after losses. Win The biggest takeaways from me U Both 405 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: offensive lines are crappy, m especially you know Ryan Tannehill 406 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: and Greg you gotta be a little nervous about this. 407 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: The only things that could stop downe Hill from continuing 408 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: to progress as a quarterback is if he takes an injury. 409 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: And you know, he got sex six times today. That's 410 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: eighteen in five games. Excuse me, twenty four and five games. 411 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: That's a recipe for disaster. UM. Two other takeaways. Terrell 412 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: Suggs is all the way back. He had three sacks today. 413 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: He's got seven for the season, and he has won 414 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: in at least every game. That's a franchise record. UM 415 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: and ray Rice. He's playing with a bad hip behind 416 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: a bad line. He's not himself right now. But he 417 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: did get in the end zone twice. But he lost 418 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: another fumble, and that's five lost fumbles in the Ravens 419 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: last eight games. I see Ray Rice's longest run went 420 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: for seven yards on seven carries. Yeah, he came into 421 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: the game averaging three yards per carrying four yards per reception. 422 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: Do we think that's all the hip there? There's just 423 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: not a lot of there's not a lot of movement 424 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: on that line. There's not a lot to go from. 425 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: And then when you you factor in that, he's not 426 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: Bernard Pierce, who Greg and I chatted a little bit, 427 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: so we saw a negative twee about Piers that he's 428 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: not hitting holes. Well, I mean, they're just not getting 429 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot of movement on the ground in the ground game. 430 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: Flacco had a nice bounce back game after his five 431 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: pick performance. He didn't throw a touchdown um and did 432 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: throw a pick six, but that was on Brian McKinney 433 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: who got killed on a on a rush and it 434 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: led to a deflection. I mean, it was a nice 435 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: win for the Ravens and and on on the Dolphins 436 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: side of the ball. You know, you have to wonder 437 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: now after that three and I start as his team, 438 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, gonna really go on the tank right now, 439 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: because I'm not that sold on him right now. Also, 440 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: one more thing, camera win every game. Though they mean 441 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: they lot they got killed in in New Orleans, this 442 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: game to me isn't any different than their wins. Basically 443 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: came down to the last possession, right Yeah, no, it's 444 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: it certainly did, but uh you know, yeah it did. 445 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: It actually came down to a field goal attempt. Uh. 446 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: Tannehill through a beautiful pass like a forty eight yard 447 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: passed to Brandon Gibson that got them around the thirty 448 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: five and then the drive sputtered out and then they 449 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: missed the fifty seven yard or so. Yeah, it wasn't 450 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: a terrible performance by Miami, but at home, you gotta 451 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: protect the her if and they didn't. What are you 452 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: seven rushes and your longest is seven? That's not the 453 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean that's hard to do. Let me 454 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: ask you guys this, Since Dan you watched this game, 455 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: and Gregg you've watched a lot of Tannehill this year. 456 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: He's on pace to break David Carr's record for most 457 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: sacks absorbed in a season. Is this all on the 458 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: offensive line or is he holding the ball too long? 459 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: Is his pocket awareness not good? Well? Today there was. 460 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: He He did not have a lot of help on 461 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: that line, for sure, but the last sack, which was 462 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: particularly costly because it it made a very tough field 463 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: goal almost impossible, where he kind of stepped into the 464 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: rush and got brought down. So I think there's that 465 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: part of his game. If there's one aspect of his 466 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: game that needs a lot of work, it's there. It's 467 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: that awareness in the pocket. Yeah, it's largely him. It's 468 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: always largely about the quarterbacks, or it's a function of 469 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: both the offensive line, but he has to take a 470 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of that blame. Um. I picked the Giants again 471 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: this week. That was five weeks in a row and 472 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm oh and five on Giants games. They they at home, 473 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: They had to lead late in the third quarter against 474 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: the Eagles, but then Eli just completely uh self combusted, combusted, 475 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: and they lost thirty. Michael Vick also got hurt. Nick 476 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: Foles came in and led the Eagles and fourth scoring drives. 477 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what that says about Nick Foles or 478 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: just the Giants being absolutely dreadful. Well. I saw after 479 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: the game, Chip Kelly said that Vick will get his 480 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: job back. But I also saw a report from Howard 481 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Eskin before we came up here that they expect Vic 482 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: to be out at least one game. Yeah, we'll see. 483 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Vick said he's had a similar injury like this before 484 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: and he missed one game. He didn't think it was 485 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: too serious. I mean, for the Eagles, they're right there 486 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: tied for the first place in in the NFC East, 487 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: so it's a get healthy win for them, and I 488 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: think everyone can finally admit, like you, Dan, I was saying, 489 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: this is the worst team in the NFL, them in 490 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and they continue to do it week after week. 491 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: They've completely created And this was one of Mark games also, 492 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: so I didn't get a chance to watch it closely, 493 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: but which I will later in the week. But I 494 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: am a little bit I don't know like this this 495 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin and Eli Manning. We can't take the two 496 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: titles away, but if they completely create her and go 497 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: to and fourteen this year, that says all sorts of 498 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: bad things about both those guys, right, And again, I'm 499 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: not trying to take anything away from these guys, And 500 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: I know Giants fans especially are hyper hyper sensitive about criticism, 501 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: especially with Eli because of what he's done. You mean, 502 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: because he has justin Tucks two m v P trophies. Well, 503 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: it depends on how you look at the Giants. If 504 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: you look at them as a two time Super Bowl champion, 505 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: like most two times Super Bowl champions, then that's fine. 506 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: If you look at him a team that goes nine 507 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: and seven every year, or eight and eight, then bottoming, Now, 508 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: isn't that crazy. They are nine win team every year 509 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: even when they win the Super Bowl. So there, it's 510 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: not like they were ever some dominant team, they'll I 511 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: think they'll find a way to win more than two. 512 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: But man, exactly, they're They're not even really competitive and 513 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: it's just amazing. And I'm wondering when Tom Coughlin's had 514 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: a explodes on the sideline. They've given up the most 515 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: right there, that they've given up the most point over 516 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: five games, I think, uh than any team since the Raiders. Yes, 517 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: I think it was there the third they've given up 518 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: the third most ever, which is just just insane. That's crazy. Well, 519 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: maybe Davian Clowney will fix that problem next year, you 520 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: know that would be so typical Giants. By the way, 521 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, I hate this. Watch them creator 522 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: lose thirteen games and then they get Clowney and then 523 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: there once again a superpower or at least a Super 524 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: Bowl contender for another ten years. Whatever. Um kay, Rich, 525 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: how are you behind the glass? You know? My Eagles one, 526 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: so I'm fantastic. Man, Do you have any Giants? Giants 527 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: are own five? How could I not be static right now? 528 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: Is that you're the team you hate most is at 529 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: the Giants? The cow girls? Oh wow, oh girls, because 530 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: they're not boys like that. And Tony oh no has 531 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: proved himself once. Oh wow, Just it's you and Leshan 532 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: McCoy just sending sniper shots all around the NFL today. 533 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but they're not America's team anymore. Did you 534 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: see what Lashaw McCoy tweeted today? He said that no, 535 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Sean Reno sucks. See I can't completely agree with that 536 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: because he's on my fantasy team. Conflicting emotions. Okay, Rich, 537 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: can you get um? Kevin Patra are a t L 538 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: correspondent in Chicago on the line. Yeah, we're gonna pull 539 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: him away from his chess game with Kanye West in 540 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: a park in Sugartown, Chicago. Kevin Patra on the line. 541 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: How are you? Mr? Patra? I don't know much time 542 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: the clock and my time was running. We'll keep it 543 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: quick alright, So we have Kevin watched two games today. 544 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: Why don't we start with in Green Bay the Packers. 545 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: They did not light it up on offense. They settled 546 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: five field goals and one touchdown, but that was enough. 547 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: No Calvin Johnson for the Lions. Bad news win for 548 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: the Packers. Yeah, the Lions just look a good team. 549 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: Shell shocks not having their best offensive weapon on the 550 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: field just didn't look like they they were doing from 551 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: the get go. To be honest with you, Um, they 552 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: got a little it should have been a blo out 553 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot earlier the Packers. You know, it's really struggled 554 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: in the red zone early. Um, it's had to settle 555 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: for field goals like you said, and and we're moving 556 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: the ball pasted to his yard line, but just stalling out. Uh, 557 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: this game should have been over in the first half, 558 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, So was this another up 559 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: and down matt Matthew Stafford performance. To me, this was 560 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: a big test for him because you're playing without Calvin 561 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: Johnson against the defense that I think can be pretty good. Yeah, 562 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: he didn't have much time the offensive. Why he could 563 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: give five stacks? You know what, he just looked to 564 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: me like I'm at the joke. He kind of looked 565 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: like my my four year old niece does when somebody 566 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: takes away her favorite toy, Like I'm gonna do this, 567 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna wish you want me to, but it's 568 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: not gonna be good. Like playing me those top two receivers. 569 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: He didn't make anybody better on the field that toad, 570 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: even to me and that spoke more than anything else 571 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: side of the game. Hey, Kevin, and I know you 572 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: watch every Lion's game. Have you noticed that DeAndre Levy 573 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: is playing at a higher level this year, Like he 574 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: seems like he might be like a Pro Bowl type 575 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: this year. He's all over the field. He made a 576 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: few plays today that you know, kept it close. There 577 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: was a couple of third downs. He made a third 578 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: one they tried they had a swing pass wide open 579 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: and he deflected it. Uh force upon. He's been all 580 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: over the field all I mean, he's got the three interceptions. 581 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: Should have two for touchdown, Uh, not for the sux penalty. Uh. 582 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: He's been all over the field this year. He has 583 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: played at a very very high level. How was the 584 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: matchup between Detroit's defensive line and you know the Packers 585 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: in their offensive line because Rogers, you know, they didn't 586 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: put up a lot of points, but then you look, 587 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: you look in the box scoring. He through for nine 588 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: yards per attempt, which is pretty good, which is great. Yeah, 589 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: he was getting some of those were catching run, slipping, 590 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: flipping tackles, and a few real deep balls like eighty 591 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: three yard touchdown to James Jones. And he had another 592 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: deep ball later in the game. Conscume that that Rogers 593 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: was getting the ball out of his hand pretty quickly, 594 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: especially early in the game. Was a lot of quick, quick, 595 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: quick throws, not letting the pressure get to him. The 596 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: line only had one sack and that was one time 597 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: he held the ball. They didn't They didn't get the 598 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: same amount of pressure they have in other games. But 599 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that had to do with 600 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: Roger's capability as well. So everyone in the division has 601 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: two losses now, so that's it's got to be. It's 602 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: they've come back to the pack quickly. Yeah, it's gonna be. 603 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those things like winning 604 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: in the division at home. This key will Packers take. 605 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: Took care of that that today, all right, So let's 606 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: move to your second game. The Chiefs are now five 607 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: and oh um after their best start since two thousand three, 608 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: when they won their first nine games. This came despite 609 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: blowing a thirteen nothing halftime lead, but they ended up 610 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: winning seventeen over the Titans. Yeah. If you like six 611 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: yard and completions, this was a game for you. This 612 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: might have been the least This might have been the 613 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: most ignored game in NFL history between a four and 614 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: oh team and the three and one team. Yeah, and 615 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, Andy Reid's got his first team manifest history 616 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: to go five and oh after losing fourteen or more 617 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: games the year before, so they got that record underast 618 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: for now. But yeah, I thought this game was gonna 619 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: be bought early. The Chief's got a touchdown off of 620 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: a muff pump, but pump that banged off a defender 621 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: who shouldn't have been there for the Titans and went 622 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: in the end zone. And then but you know, Alex 623 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Smith didn't really do anything. They had a bunch of opportunities, 624 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: settled for a bowload of field goals, They had fuel 625 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: position all first half, and they only were up thirteen 626 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: nothing at half. And Ryan Fitzpatrick was just more awful 627 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: the entire first half and for most of the game, 628 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, he actually ended up with 629 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: more yards than Alex Smith, passing by two, but most 630 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: of that came out of like a broken flipped to 631 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: Christ Johnson and took for the house text. The Titans 632 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: offense just really couldn't get any going in in the 633 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: whole game. And then Ryan Fitzpatrick made a few Houdini 634 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: plays where he just scrambled out and he should have 635 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: been swallowed up, and he got it, got free and 636 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: there was nobody spying him, and he ran for first 637 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: some yards. He actually had ended up being a leading 638 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: rusher with fifty yards. This is the thing you need 639 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: to know about Christ Johnson's the game. This is the 640 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: same Ryan Fitzpatrick that signed a sixty three million dollar 641 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: contract a couple of octobers ago. Right, I'm sure Bills 642 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: fans would love to be reminded about that. Chris Johnson's 643 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: longest run went for six yards. I would like to 644 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: hear Lashawn McCoy's thoughts on that. And really had ten 645 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: carries for seventeen yards. He just think there was no 646 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: holes for him at all. Gonna go ashead and say 647 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: it's a bad side when the quarterback from Harvard out 648 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: gains Chris Johnson by thirty three yards. I understand there's 649 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: gonna be more guys in the box when the Harvard 650 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: quarterback is playing. But what happened to the preseason narrative 651 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: about the rebuilt offensive line in Tennessee yielding big results 652 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: for Chris Johnson. Well, well it's been it's been five 653 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 1: games now or the Kansas City chief the best defense 654 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That was really that to me, spoke more. 655 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean the the defensive line. Right, there's Poe Houston. 656 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: We're getting pressure up up the gun, and they just 657 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: didn't They didn't really even get in the ball ten times. 658 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: They just weren't really opportunities. They went three and out 659 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: in their first like five possessions. They didn't get a 660 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: first down until the second half, I mean the second quarter. 661 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry now, I know this might have upset some 662 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs fans, but let's look at the opponents that they faced. 663 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: At least Jaguars, enough said, Titans today with Ryan Fitzpatrick, 664 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: the Giants, those are three or three pretty bad offense. 665 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: Then you got the Eagles and the Cowboys, and they 666 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: played really well against them. I think the Chiefs game 667 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: to game had probably gosh who I would give it 668 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: to Seattle, but the Chiefs are probably number two. Hey, Kevin, 669 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Panthers have a pretty good defense. Panthers would be right there. Yeah, 670 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers would be right there. It sounds crazy, but hey, Patra, 671 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: I have one more stat. I have one more stat 672 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: for you. After a three run Detroit Tigers first inning 673 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: in Game one of their Alds series against the A's. 674 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: They have now been held scoreless for seventeen consecutive innings 675 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: by the Oaklands. Are you nervous? I appreciate you rubbing that, 676 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: and it hasn't been tough enough of a day. I 677 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: appreciate that one. I mean, you can't hit the ball, 678 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: you can't win it. Yesterday was you know, great before 679 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: both sides, but uh, you know I knew that wasn't 680 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna end. Well, can't get guys on base. Yeah, I'm 681 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: just worried. Yeah, I'm just more like a bitter Yankees 682 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: fan that just wanted to throw something in there. I 683 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: got Gregg, he's all overconfident about the Red Sox thrown 684 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: in little digs next to me. You know, West got 685 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: his Red's got beat, so there's nothing going on there. 686 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would be a little worried if I 687 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: were you. This is why you tune into a Round 688 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: the League podcast for analysis, Like, if you can't hear 689 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: hit the ball, you're not gonna win in baseball, alright. 690 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, best best hitters have been been hurt the whole, 691 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, and Prince Feeler hasn't been hitting like one 692 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: twenty in the playoffs in the last two years. It's 693 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: always great. Well, good luck to you with Mr Patra 694 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: and thank you again for joining us, and we'll do 695 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: it again next week. All right, I give back to 696 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: my chest matter. Alright, Okay, so there are two more 697 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Sunday night games. We will talk about one of them now, 698 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: one we won't be talking about. That is the Late 699 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: Late Show. Chris Sling will be watching the Raiders Chargers. Um. 700 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: We wanted to stay and do the podcast during at 701 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: the end of that game, but k Rich's backup singers 702 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: would not would not show up, so we just couldn't 703 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: do it. They charged. We have a very very miniscule budget. 704 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: But there was the earlier Sunday night game, what you 705 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: would call the proper Sunday night game. What can you 706 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: say about the Houston Texans. They lost again and you 707 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: know at their quarterback didn't even give them a chance 708 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: match job through another pick six. That's four straight over 709 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: four games, which is almost impossible to imagine happening. Uh, 710 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: they got wiped out. They are now below five hundred 711 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: h t J. Yates came in for shob late in 712 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: the game, and you have to wonder is this something 713 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: where did Matt shob lose his job on Sunday Night. 714 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: Job gave Kubiak no choice. You know, he had the 715 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: two interceptions in the first half. I mean he has 716 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: he scored three points in the last five quarters that 717 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: Shops been on the field, and the Broncos and the 718 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys will be that game, Dan, you you mentioned that 719 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: will remember ten years from now, we won't really remember this, 720 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: but this development, to me might have been the story 721 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: of the day because it went from bad to even worse. 722 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: And this is a team a lot of people thought 723 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: was gonna be a Super Bowl contender. The last thing 724 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: Kubiak wanted was to take Shop out, and he gave 725 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: him no other choice. And you just wonder where did 726 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: the Texans go from here? After seeing this game? Uh? 727 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe I picked the Texans to win. I 728 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: was guilty of one of the things that I always 729 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: try to avoid, which is judging the player's name instead 730 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: of his game. And Shop just hasn't been the same 731 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: quarterback since that blowout loss to the Patriots last year. 732 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: I think he's four and eight now in his last 733 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: twelve games, and that's when a team that's loaded with 734 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: talent on both sides of the ball. He just isn't 735 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: the same guy. Yeah, and I know you would. You 736 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: were saying downstairs West that the possibility that he might 737 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: not be the same guy physically from last season, going 738 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: back as far as around that Patriots blowout in December. 739 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: It Yeah, it makes me wonder if he suffered some 740 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: type of shoulder or elbow injury in that game, because 741 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: he looks now like Carson Palmer did after his elbow 742 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: injury and Jake Dilome did after his Tommy John surgery. 743 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: Where he's throwing these sideline outs, these are the ones 744 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: that are getting picked and he's just not putting enough 745 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: mustard on the ball. And the Texas offense just looks 746 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: a little too predictable right now too. Here's my question 747 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: to both of you guys. Okay, we all understand that 748 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: the Texans a Super Bowl er bust uh? Does t 749 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: J Yates give them a better chance to win the 750 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl or at least get back on track and 751 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. I'm not so sure he does. 752 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: I think you're in a tough spot. He had a 753 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: hard time beating out case Keenum for the backup job 754 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: that was a story in Houston all off season. I 755 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: don't think Kubiak is very happy with yates development. So 756 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: if he had a guy that he was excited about 757 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: on the bench, then I think it's a no brainer. 758 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: You see what he can do. But he's kind of 759 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: in a no win situation here. I do wonder if 760 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: he thinks maybe it would do Shops some good to 761 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: be on the bench for a game or two and 762 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: we'll see what Yates does and we'll try to win, 763 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: and there's always the option you can go back to Shop. 764 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy you gave almost thirty 765 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: million dollars to over two years, just last year, just 766 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: last September. So it's a tough guy to bench for 767 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: the whole season. I hate to say this for Texans fans, uh, 768 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 1: And I think that the playoffs will be more entertaining 769 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: if the Texans were in it, because I think they're 770 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: a good team. But if you don't have a quarterback, 771 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: you're not a playoff contender. And I don't think they 772 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: have a quarterback, and you can't just count on winning 773 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: an easy division anymore either. It's not an easy to vision. 774 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: They might be the third best team in that division 775 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: and then on on the Niners side. It was an 776 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,959 Speaker 1: interesting game because you know, kind of like last week 777 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: with the Niners, I don't know how much I really 778 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: learned about them. At one point, kaepern had completed a 779 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: long touchdown past two Vernon Davis in the fourth quarter 780 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: and the and then now Michaels told us that that 781 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: was his first completion since the first quarter. So obviously 782 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: is an isn't an offense at least that's humming at 783 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: this point. But they're running the ball and they're getting 784 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: back to the things that made them successful when Alex 785 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: Smith was their quarterback. And they're playing good deef and 786 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: granted it was against Bradford and Shop, but that's what 787 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: good defenses do. They stop bad quarterbacks and that's what 788 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: they've done. And their schedule gets a lot easier. So 789 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: I think they have to be thrilled with how they 790 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: came out of this one and to start okay. So 791 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: that does it for tonight's podcast. Thank you for listening. 792 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: We will be back Wednesday, as we will be looking 793 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: ahead to Week six. Uh West, have a enjoyable late 794 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: night watching football. Thank you, Insomnia Insomniac Theater. We'll be 795 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: back Wednesday. This is uh and Mark Sessler feel better. 796 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: I know he's listening. Hanging there, buddy, you will get 797 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: through this. Uh Stan Kansas signing off for the Mailman, 798 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: the Boss and k Rick Rind the Glass and of 799 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 1: course why all the intern to Wedston