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Speaker 1: Oh right here, Hey, Kim, Shannon wanted me to tell

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Speaker 1: That's how you do it, all right, No, Kim, I

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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle Price,

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Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shah. I am

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Speaker 2: your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of Club

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Speaker 2: Sha Sha. Stopping by the conversation or the drink today.

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Speaker 2: With a career spanning two decades, he's of the best

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Speaker 1: We do you right, we do. You're out there Troup.

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Speaker 1: When you was reading it down, I'm like, who is

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Speaker 1: You're trying to take care of our family, make a

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Speaker 1: You know, about ten years ago this question would have

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Speaker 1: What was what was your childhood? What was your childhood like?

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Speaker 2: At some point time of me, you know, you just

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna really look at that. His love though, game,

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Speaker 1: It put up a wall. You put up a wall.

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Speaker 2: You just said, you know what, because they really wanted me,

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Speaker 1: What I think happened with me was you end up

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Speaker 1: But I definitely know she wasn't with the hide and

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Speaker 1: Right man? What advice would you give kids today?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm sure you're an activist. Now, kids that come

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Speaker 1: I think it had a lot to do with me,

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Speaker 2: That night and ripping the family apartment.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm talking about we had it, Man, the first

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Speaker 1: chance to be more of a son and him more

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00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: of a father right before he passed. I'm talking about

433
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: within the last forty five days. And when I woke

434
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: up and I woke up one day to like thirty

435
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: forty text messages and the first one I saw was

436
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: from my older brother. He was just like Dad is dead,

437
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: and I just I've never been told that my dad

438
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 1: was dead before, so you can imagine what that felt like.

439
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: It was weird. And I tell people all the time,

440
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what relationship you have with your parents, right,

441
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's a strange or whatever. We're

442
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: all balls of energy, right, all of us, everybody in

443
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: this room, Me and you were balls of energy. When

444
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: part of your creators, right, one half of your creators

445
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: dies or perishes, or goes to somewhere that is not

446
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: in this earthly realm, you feel it. Yeah, you feel it.

447
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: You could never talk to your father in your life

448
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 1: if he died, you would feel a little off that day, right,

449
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: And that's just how the universe works. So for me

450
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 1: when he died, man, it hit me hard for some reason.

451
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: It hit me hard because like I said, he was there,

452
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: he was just in and out. He gave me wisdom,

453
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 1: but I couldn't appreciate it when I was that young,

454
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: I didn't really even give a shit about it. But

455
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: now I hear his voice ten times a day, like, nah,

456
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be like that, which, in toa has

457
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: helped me be a remarkable fall because my kids, it

458
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: was like, at this point in life, you get to

459
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: forty six, you know we are on the other half. Yes,

460
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: my children are everything and it's all about them and

461
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: about nothing else. And like I told you know, we

462
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: first started like I pour into them so much. I'm involved.

463
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on. I want to

464
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: be transparent. I want to know, you know, the first

465
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 1: time my daughter feels like she likes her boys, cool,

466
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: tell me, let's sit down, let's talk about it. I

467
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: want to know what year my sons feel like they're

468
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a kid, so I'll know when I'm gonna

469
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: be grandpa. Game. Let me know. And I also told him,

470
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: I say, you know, either one of y'all get somebody pregnant,

471
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, you financially cut off because now you have

472
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: to be a man. You got to figure it out

473
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: like I did. And they're like, yeah, we think we're

474
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 1: gonna chilly man, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, man,

475
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: I think that indirectly his fatherhood was what it was,

476
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: but it ultimately made me a better person.

477
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: So you wanted to do You wanted to be everything

478
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: as a father that he wasn't exactly, And this is

479
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: why you are how you are with your kids because

480
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: of how he wasn't with you.

481
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: Exactly, and I was his favorite and I got again,

482
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: I got seventeen siblings, So imagine how everyone else feels.

483
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: Your father Normally you said your dad would didn't do

484
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: drugs at first and like recreational, okay, you go party

485
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 2: or something like that. But there was a tragic incident

486
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: in which your brother was killed and you felt that

487
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: that might have led him down that path.

488
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I was thirteen, my brother, who was sixteen,

489
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: he ended up getting killed. Terrible blow to my family.

490
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: That was, you know, my other It's gonna be like, man,

491
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? But that was my brother. You know,

492
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: I loved him to dev He made sure that I

493
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: had everything that I needed. For everything that my father lacked,

494
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: he carried right to the doorstep and he and we

495
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: got different moms, you know, so he was there. So

496
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: that was not my first blow as far as death

497
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: is concerned, somebody you care about, because I've lost friends.

498
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: I lost my first friend when I was in kindergarten

499
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: to a drive by walking home. But yeah, my brother died. Man. Again,

500
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: I was hated the world nothing And remember when you

501
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: asked me what sent me to into the streets. I

502
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: think that did, because after that, I just didn't care

503
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: if I lived or died. Again, I was young, I

504
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: was thirteen years old and hand no kids, and I

505
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, like this was it. Did your

506
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: brother bang he did? Yeah? So that didn't.

507
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: That didn't because like you know now, I mean you

508
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: probably knew then there was a chance that me being

509
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: in this part of life, doing this in life, there's

510
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: a good chance that one day I'm this fate can

511
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: befail me.

512
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, here's a psychology from us as adolescent

513
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: gang members in La or across the globe. Right just

514
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: from me sitting here talking to you, I can tell

515
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: you straight that I didn't care if I died. I

516
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: was walking outside to die every day and I didn't care.

517
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: But my thing was I have to I gotta have

518
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: the upper hands. So I always had my head on

519
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: the swivel. I mean, obviously I'm sitting before you, but

520
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: I always played defense when I walked outside. But I

521
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: woke up and walked outside with my rag in my

522
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: pocket every day knowing that I was gonna bang it.

523
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: In Compton or in La period, it's a different gang.

524
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: Every block of blocks, yeah, every five blocks a game changes.

525
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: So imagine walking two miles of school, how many times

526
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: you get asked where you're from? And how many times

527
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: you got to make the decision to lie or stand

528
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: on it and face whatever is in front of you. Damn.

529
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: I mean you have like broy, Hey, bro, I ain't

530
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: bout this, man. I'm just trying to go to school,

531
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: get me a little education.

532
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: Go sit man. But you know what, when I was young,

533
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: I was fearless as well. You know, I was feelings

534
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: as well.

535
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Man.

536
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: I would either tell them where I was from or run.

537
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm too little, they too big. The crazy I

538
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: told my son, it's this story not too long ago.

539
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: I was maybe nine or ten years old getting banged

540
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: on by adults. I mean, I mean kids that were

541
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: like nineteen twenty asking a ten year old like where

542
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: you're from, and you would have to answer that or

543
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: it would be consequence. So it would either knew them

544
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: and you would be like you know if you Calvin

545
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: and then run, or you would just get beat up

546
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: as a kid. And that that that is crazy. Man.

547
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: When I think back about you know how how I

548
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: came up.

549
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, man, real talk. When

550
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: did we stop throwing these I've been fighting all my life.

551
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: But it used to be you took an ass cutting dude,

552
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: got the best of it. That was the end of it.

553
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't a situation where you got beaten and you

554
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: went and had to go home and get that fire

555
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 2: right again.

556
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: Man. I never seen it in that change that. I've

557
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: never seen anybody of anybody from the hood, whether it

558
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: be Hispanic or African American or any other race that

559
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: is in the hood. I've never seen them put a

560
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: gun together. So I'm saying, where are the weapons coming from?

561
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I feel like at some point, man,

562
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: it was a you know, a big you know, some

563
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: big crates and they dropped them off and the crate,

564
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, the wood fell and you could add everything

565
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: you want because we were not manufacturing these things. Man.

566
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: Well for some reason, everybody got them, I think in

567
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: the eighties. And I think it was employed by the

568
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, the American government at that time too, you know,

569
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: infiltrate the black neighborhoods. And it's still happening today, and

570
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't I think we we are very very far

571
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: from a place of where we can just rectify the

572
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: situation to be honest man, and so but we can't

573
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: give up either. Like I said, I'm with my sons,

574
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, I know you got you know, family and

575
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: young casting your family who you're talking to, and like

576
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: this is you know it should be like this, you know,

577
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: nephew or son or whatever. But yeah, everybody gotta do

578
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: their part.

579
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: Is game culture celebrated too much? Do we glorify it?

580
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: Do we glamorize it too much?

581
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: I think we do, and I think I'm part of

582
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: the problem. But my my story, my history, my life,

583
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: my childhood, my upbringing.

584
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: That's but you live that life though, Yeah that was that,

585
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: ain't I mean that ain't No, you ain't no studio games.

586
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: You actually walk these streets as that, right, And a

587
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: lot of people now pretend like they walk the street

588
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: as that and they're not. But they're celebrating something and

589
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: they're glamorizing. And it's just like an athlete. You see

590
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: the lebron James and you see somebody or your favorite

591
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: rapper talking about this, Well, that's what I want to be.

592
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: I want to be just like that. Yeah, that happened

593
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: the same for me. I think that these days it's

594
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: just a little not even a little a lot more

595
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: non authenticated. You know, it's just it's social media. Man.

596
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: You could be wherever you want to. You can be

597
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: whatever you want to be looking into your phone. You

598
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: know anything. You can be Lebron James only on your phone.

599
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: If you go on if you're not that skilled at basketball, right,

600
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: but you go to the park and set your phone down,

601
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: record yourself, make it about five six jumpers. You might

602
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: miss a hundred, but you're not gonna put the missus

603
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: on right. So then your friends come on there, they

604
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: double tap. Now you got a hundred likes and you

605
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: hitting five, but you really shot one hundred. Everybody think

606
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: you Michael Jordan what I'm saying. So it's just like you.

607
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: You could be anybody you want to be. On hand

608
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: on that man, nobody has to be authentically them. Hey,

609
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: what's up, y'all? Is your favorite UK proud partner of

610
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: Roe Sparks. Have you ever had one of those nights?

611
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: Maybe you're watching a movie, it's laughing, she's snuggles in

612
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: closer on the couch and boom it's on. Now in

613
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: these moments, you can't get caught slipping. You gotta be

614
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: ready to perform like it's the big game, you hear me.

615
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: And that's what Roae Sparks come in. These bad boys

616
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: dissolved right under your tongue.

617
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: No water, no worries. And here's the kicker.

618
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: That dual action formula stays active for up to thirty

619
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: six hours.

620
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: Now you ain't hard.

621
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: For thirty six hours, Let's get that straight. But when

622
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: the moment strikes again or again, you're ready to rise

623
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: to the occasion. With roast Sparks, you get harder, you

624
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: get more control, and everybody's leaving the room with a smile.

625
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: And that's what I call a dub baby. And check

626
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: this out. If you prescribe the new sexual health patient

627
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: and get fifteen dollars off the first order of roast

628
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: Sparks on a reoccurring plan, just go to ro dot

629
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: co slash shay shape to find out if prescription road

630
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: sparks are right for you. Again, that's ro dot Co

631
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: slash shay shape. Now you know you got a huture straight.

632
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: Road Sparks is a compounded drug that means it's allowed

633
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: to be prescribed on the federal law, but it isn't

634
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: FDA approved and it doesn't go through their reviews. For

635
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: the full safety info hit up ro coo slash safety info.

636
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: So fellas, stay confident, stay ready, and let them sparks

637
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: fly when the moment is right. You were shot five times,

638
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: spent three days in a coma. I guess was a

639
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: robbery attempt. Correct, Yeah, you were trying to rob somebody else.

640
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: You was getting robbed?

641
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I was getting robbed.

642
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: Did you know that? I mean they run down how

643
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: they get you? Say, you ken't be handle swivels? So

644
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: how do you get run down? I made a mistake.

645
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: I was. I was playing Madden and it was longer

646
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: in three days by the way, man, I was. I

647
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: was down for almost a month. He wasn a call

648
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: before almost a month. Most Yeah. Yeah. My mom didn't

649
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: come to see me either, but she said she wasn't.

650
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: She was like you ever, you know.

651
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: If you if something ever happened to you, you know

652
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: what this life entails, and if it happens.

653
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: To you, I'm not gonna I'm not coming. Yeah, I

654
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: told you so. What happened was I was playing Madden

655
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: late night and we had rules in the you know

656
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: in the dope house that after midnight all sales ceased

657
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: because you know, you know, bullshiting at me. So I

658
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: heard a knock on the door. I must have looked

659
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: at the time, and it was like maybe like twelve thirty,

660
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, nobody else was, you know, in

661
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: the dop bob of me. And so if you're in

662
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: the dough, if you ever sold dope, when there's a

663
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: lot of guys or a lot of homies in the

664
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: dope spot, every knock on the door is the other

665
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: person's turn until it gets back to you, right, And

666
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: that's how you know everybody makes you know, even money.

667
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: So with this on this particular night, my brother was

668
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: with his kids, mom, and my other homie, Veil, who's

669
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: no longer with us, was somewhere else gone, and then

670
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: I think my boy ad was gone. Everybody was gone.

671
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: So you had to put up that night. Yet I

672
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: cleaned up that night, and so I was like, what

673
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: is one more knock on the door? I looked through

674
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: the peepole. It was this little scrawny kid that always come,

675
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, so you knew him, So that's why you

676
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: let your guard. Yeah, I knew him from coming before,

677
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: but I knew him like that as soon as I

678
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: opened the door for him. Two more dudes came behind him,

679
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: and then I was in for you know, a fight

680
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: for my life just like that that. I swear it

681
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: felt like it happened in twenty seconds. Man. So I

682
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: ran immediately to the table, which was probably right here,

683
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: to get my gun off the table, but he got

684
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: he got he kind of got to it before me,

685
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: So we ended up rolling on the ground for what

686
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: felt like a lifetime. His homies couldn't shoot me because

687
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: we were rolling him. For some reason, I was kind

688
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: of getting the gun, you know, like getting the edge

689
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: on him, so he just fired it and it went

690
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: through my chest and through my stomach and through my

691
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: leg and through my arm. Do you think your life

692
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: was over? Yep? I thought my life was over. I

693
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: can remember them leaving. After that. I crawled down the

694
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: hallway to the bathroom that was on the right. I

695
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: turned on the light. I lifted myself up by my

696
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: elbows and I pulled my my tank top back and

697
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: blood just splattered on the on the mirror. I fell down.

698
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: I had a nextail chirp, so I called down with

699
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: one myself and next thing I woke up, my aunt

700
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: was right there and she was like, you know, you've

701
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: been in here for a minute, and damn, yeah, you

702
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: weren't worried about the cop coming to the house. Man

703
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: when you get shot, man to the house of Jesus.

704
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: Man that hey, the cub they take all this, but

705
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: you can saved my life or this WK.

706
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think whoever was the investigat officers, because

707
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: they came to see me once I woke up from

708
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: the coma, they didn't even They didn't bring up the

709
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: drugs at all, man. So I kind of think that

710
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: they probably saw that I was young and probably was

711
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: just you know, let it go. When you you wake up,

712
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: you're like, you've been in there almost thirty days, and

713
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: that now.

714
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: What's going through your head? You're like, I'm done with

715
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: this issue. I don't dodge the bullet. God, thank you

716
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: so much. I appreciate you. I'm out.

717
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I want to tell you what happened. Man. You know,

718
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: we always had these coming to God. If you get

719
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: me out of this, I will never do it again.

720
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: I went to my grandmother's house. She prayed over me

721
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: every day in the bed while I was because I

722
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: had to learn how to I was shot in my leg.

723
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: I had to learn how to walk again and all

724
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: of that. So I stayed at my grandma house for

725
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: like two months. I said, as soon as I get

726
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: out this bed, man, I'm going to church. Man changed

727
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: my life, right, We always want to run a church

728
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: because I mean the church doors over. God has always this.

729
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: So I went to church with my grandma and I

730
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: was like, man, fall asleep in that thing. Man. I

731
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't know. You know, God gonna

732
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: have to catch me outside. So I left there and

733
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: I went back to my grandma. Something another two weeks past,

734
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I was hanging one of my boys. He was in

735
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: the streets like me. His older brother is Cam the rapper.

736
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: Come on Muhammed, So he follows, uh you know, Minister

737
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: uh Faara Con and he's part of the FOI. So

738
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: Minister fair Con was coming to the Convention Center, so

739
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: was Russell Simmon Snoop Dogg for a hip hop summit.

740
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: I hadn't really rapped that much yet at that point.

741
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: I was just like a fan of rap. But I

742
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm gonna go. I'm about to be

743
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: a Muslim, right because then you know, they dressed up

744
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: nice proud give me the bow tie. Man changed my

745
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: life and I'm gonna just be out here with the

746
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: bean pods like in the in the Final call, like brother,

747
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, went to see Minister fair Con speak, met

748
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: uh Minister Tony Muhammad and he was like what brings you?

749
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I just got shot long

750
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: not long ago. I want to change my life. He

751
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: was like, you know what what are you into? What

752
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: do you do? I was like, I rapped live that

753
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: I hadn't. I hadn't rapped that all. But he was like,

754
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't a uh you know after this,

755
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, you go next door man and they having

756
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: a no hip hop convention. So man, I go next

757
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: door after I see Minister fericnd. Now, after hearing Minister

758
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: fair Con speak, I was, I was mind blown, right,

759
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: but it was like I was. Minister fer CON's speech

760
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: made me angry for some reason. I wanted to go

761
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: out and just hurt white people. I was like, ah,

762
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, like I want to

763
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: be a Muslim, but like, and I'm not saying that

764
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: that's what he preaching. I'm just saying that's how it

765
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: made me feel. Individually, I wanted to go out and

766
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: get revenge for Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, whoever right, minister

767
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: because he powerful man? Yes, and so he spoke to

768
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: me and I was like, man, well, that ain't it.

769
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: I can't just go out and like, you know, start

770
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: a war white people, because how I feel. So I

771
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: went over. Russell Simmons was talking about upcoming artists and

772
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: I saw Snoop Dogg walking out and I was like, Yo, Snoop,

773
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: what's up man? My name game, I'm from Compton. I rapped.

774
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: He was like, that's all right, that's right, nephew, stay up,

775
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: and then he did and I'm like, damn, he ain't

776
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: even gonna you know, you want to spit a few

777
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: bars for it. I wanted to try, but he was like, yeah,

778
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: cuz tell your thing. So uh he left. But there

779
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: was a freestyle battle. And so at that time, it

780
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: wasn't no internet. Oh yeah, actually it was internet, but

781
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: the only two websites was like dictionary, dot com and Google,

782
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: and you couldn't surf the web. So I was I

783
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: knew all like jay Z and Biggie Rhymes and nas

784
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: by Heart because I was I was like East Coast

785
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: and Florence. I listened to West Coast stuff, of course

786
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: because I'm from here. But I was like intrigued by

787
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: like the word play from like you know, J and

788
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: Nas and KRS one and all them. So I spent it.

789
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: I spent a jay Z versus a freestyle, and no

790
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: one didn't know. You know what I'm saying. They didn't

791
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: know it. And so they was like, yo, you dope.

792
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: And it was a cat in there named JT, the

793
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: Bigger figure and his boy Fat Rat, and they was like,

794
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: I want to fly you to the bay. And I

795
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: was like, find me to the bay. Like you know,

796
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: I know my in my head, this ain't my rap.

797
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: This is jay Z rap. You know what I'm saying.

798
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: But I'm like, yo, they want to fly me to

799
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: the bay. He's like, in the morning, I'm gonna call

800
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: you and I'm gonna fly you out to the bay.

801
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: He called. I went to the airport. I only been

802
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: on the plane twice at that point, once when my

803
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: grandma had going to Vegas. When my cousin stay at

804
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: circuit circuits and you don't know about the old circuit circuits, DA.

805
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: It was crazy for kids. Man, it's like home alone

806
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: for black people, you know what I'm saying. But so yeah,

807
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: it's my second time on the plane. Scared the ship.

808
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: But I land, I get to meet E forty, I

809
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: get to meet someone, you know, the outlaws. Yeah, call me.

810
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I got to meet Wrapping Forte. I'm at too short.

811
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: And my engineer that was recording my demo is now

812
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: the owner Empire Ghazi. So it's like I recorded my demo,

813
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: I brought it back. I was just passing it out.

814
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: I would go to like right Egg get some CDs.

815
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: I bought a CD burner from Fries and I was

816
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: just every time I sold some weed, I went, Oh,

817
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: by the way, I forgot to tell you, I went

818
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: back selling weed. I see, but you said, God, would you?

819
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: Hey man?

820
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: I was, you know, made a problems to God and

821
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: it left it two weeks you hey man.

822
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to figure it out. But so yeah,

823
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: I was. I went back selling weed, and with every

824
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: person that bought, you know, like you know, a twenty

825
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: sack or something like that, I would just give them

826
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: my CD. Somehow that got to doctor Dre's sister and

827
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: my homie d Mac and k Dog was like, yo, Dre,

828
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: want to meet you, And then we end up going

829
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: to come into the valley and I had never been

830
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: to the valley in my life ever. And I went

831
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: to the valley and I was like, damn, it's the valley.

832
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: It's only twenty minutes away. So that's how small LA is, right.

833
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: So I went to the valley, walked in. Dre was

834
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: like you game. I was like yeah. He was like

835
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: welcoming after math, and I was like, what all I

836
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: really got is this demo that I recorded and like

837
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: kind of got myself through on the you know, on

838
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: the go, and it's one jay Z verse that I

839
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: spent at this freestyle. But here I am signed the aftermath.

840
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: So I went home. I told my mom. I was like,

841
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm signing to doctor Dre. And she was like, what

842
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: do you do? A rat? You know? And had he ever?

843
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: Had he ever heard you rap? She kicked me out

844
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: the house for saying that I wanted to rap when

845
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: it was just an idea. Kicked me straight out, locked

846
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: the doors, and I never went back. So I was like, yeah,

847
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: manor wrap worked out? And she didn't. I don't think

848
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: she believed me, right, But I was like, I'm gonna

849
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: make this happen, man. And at that time, my oldest

850
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: son's mom was pregnant with him, and I was like,

851
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: I promised her mother that before this kid was born

852
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: that I would have a million dollars, and I made

853
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: it happen. Wow, And I thought a million dollars was

854
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, not to knock nobody, but a million dollars

855
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: is not really as much as you think it is.

856
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: When you get to taking care of people in handling business,

857
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: Well what half of that? Because what's Sam get his cut? Right? Well,

858
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: you know the you know it was a subsidiary company, right,

859
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: the people that signed me to after Math get they

860
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: took the thirty percent, The lawyer's gonna take three percent,

861
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: management takes eight percent. And then I saw I was

862
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: probably left with about four or five hundred thousand. I

863
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: did some you know, real young black shit. I went

864
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: to Jacob bought me a watch, because you know that's

865
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: what you get times five times though, right, Yeah, you know,

866
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: I bought me a So I was down about a

867
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand. I bought my girl a little band's truck.

868
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: I put them out here in the valley, and then

869
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: I did some stuff with my mom and then before

870
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: you knew it, man, I was like, I didn't have

871
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: nothing damn.

872
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you said your mom, you told your mom

873
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: that you wanted to rap, she said, nah, you can't

874
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: do that here, you know.

875
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: She said, get out, get out? Yeah, where did you go?

876
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: I just went to the streets. I ended up meeting

877
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: this girl, and I never really talked about this before.

878
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: I met a girl named Rachel on Crenshaw because we

879
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: used to go to Crenshaw like the movies, We used

880
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: to go to Crenshaw. Kick it. You meet a girl,

881
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, he rode the windown window down, You holler

882
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: at it, you lean over the window. Yeah, you know,

883
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: spit your game. And so I met a girl named Rachel.

884
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: She was in college. She came. We got this thing

885
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: in our hood we call, you know, the girls from

886
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: two parent home two pieces. So it's like, you know,

887
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: me and homeys were like, yo, she had two ps, Yeah,

888
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: she had two peaces. How she going to college? She

889
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: from a two parent home. So I end up getting

890
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: into her apartment with her and kind of moving in slowly,

891
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: and I ended up being an apartment that I end

892
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: up getting shot in because her parents made her move out.

893
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: Once I infiltrated the spot and I went in there

894
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: and damn to ruin this girl's life.

895
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: Man.

896
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, her name Rachel. I've never seen her again

897
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: after that. You don't know if you're still alive or anything. Huh,

898
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: hopefully she's alive, Shannon.

899
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: You are to reach out, you got that kind of

900
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: I mean, just just have a p I say. Look,

901
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: I know, hey, I just wanted to say thank you

902
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: for what you did because when I didn't have anywhere

903
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: to go, you open up your you open up your

904
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: door to me, and I really want to appreciate it.

905
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably saved my life. Yeah, live, man, she

906
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: gave me it. She gave me a shot. Right.

907
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: You're like you like basketball and you tell the story

908
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: about like bro I go hoop. I'm trying to how

909
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: you hoop with iron on you.

910
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: So that was my thing. Man, Like I said, I

911
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: told you, when I leave a house, I play on defense.

912
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: I always thought that every time I left the house,

913
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: that was the day I was gonna die. And for

914
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: good reason, because I have you know, dead siblings. I

915
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: also have witnessed so many of my friends die, right,

916
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: you know. I remember I was my auntie Betty, who

917
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I love dearly, when I died when my friend got

918
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: killed on the way home in kindergarten, she I could.

919
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: It took her maybe a week to explain to me

920
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: where what happened. I was like, I'm not going to

921
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: my number one question. Her was like, so I'm not

922
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: going to see him again, and she was just like, no, baby,

923
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: he's with Jesus. And I just couldn't understand that for

924
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: the life of me. How somebody gets erase off the

925
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: earth and you just never see him again, which you

926
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: know in the interim, Really it's some tough psychological warfare

927
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: to put on a five year old. Yeah, but yeah,

928
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, speaking back into the future, man, I would

929
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: always play basketball with my gun on with a host.

930
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't got a hoster from Big Five, so I

931
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: made like the real Holster, so I can like so

932
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: it wouldn't fall off on the dunk or anything. But

933
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: I had to keep it on because I played basketball

934
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: at some of the worst basketball courts in LA.

935
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: But then you can't get into the argument because you

936
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: know you ain't the only one they got that stick

937
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 2: on them.

938
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to see I know I got mine,

939
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: hopefully you got yours. So I ain't never had to

940
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: really pull it out on the basketball court, but I

941
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: always had it on me, right, So the game, how

942
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: did you come up with the name the game? Who

943
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: gave you that name? I got that from my grandmother

944
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: when I was younger, because I remember I told you

945
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I had the first I was the first person on

946
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: the block with the Nintendo. And it's funny because when

947
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: I got that Nintendo, all my homies wanted to come over.

948
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: They couldn't wait till Friday. Man, So we would have

949
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: our like I had a heat Man sleeping bag. Homies

950
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: would have the Nintendo joints and we just we'd be

951
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: up all night man playing Track and Field, Duck Hunt,

952
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: Mario Brothers. And yeah, so my grandmother from Texas, originally

953
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: she would just be like, boy, that boy he gamed

954
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: for anything, you know, game this game that, and so

955
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: it was just it was just baby game. And I

956
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: got bigger little game than just game. And so when

957
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: when I when I had to choose a rap name,

958
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: I went through. I had a notebook with about ten names, man,

959
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: and the one that stuck out was Mike rock Well.

960
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: And it's gonna this's gonna be funny to you. So, yeah,

961
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: I called myself Mike Rockwell cuz I thought I rocked

962
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: the Mike Well. So I thought that was I thought.

963
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: Cause you do know, there's a there's a guy named

964
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: rock Well, bad Gordy's son. I always feel like somebody's

965
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 2: watching me. Yeah, his name was rock Well. Oh dang, Yeah,

966
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: I thought I came up with something that was a game.

967
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, my sister was like, that's stupid. That's just stupid.

968
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, what's wrong with Mike Rockwell? She

969
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: said it's stupid. She said, why don't you just use

970
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: your regular name and just put like mister ord And

971
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: I was like, mister Gang sounded like a porn star.

972
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: And she was like, what about like a doctor game?

973
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it's Doctor Dre. Man. She was

974
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: just like, you's duh And I was like the game

975
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: and then it's stuck man. So yeah, my sister Sharona

976
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: helped me out. Man.

977
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: So you uh, you meet Doctor Dre, you get signed

978
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: the aftermap, you get a million dollars, you go through

979
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: that in a little of no time.

980
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: No time. My boy be, my boy BD helped me

981
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: out though. He boy he gave me a range. He

982
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: he was going to get a range. Rover told me

983
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: if I came with him. He would give me a

984
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: Range Rover. He was like, man, we can get two.

985
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: And so we went down there bed when he was

986
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: playing with Charlotte Baron Davis. Yeah, I grew up with

987
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Baron Davis. Get with the Rains, Tyson Chandler like these

988
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: all my homies went to the NBA. You know, spt me.

989
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, you chose a different life. Yeah, d

990
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: he took me, not took me. We went together to

991
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: a Range Rover dealership. We left with two Range Rovers

992
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: and he gave me a hundred thousand man damn because

993
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: he was proud of me, you know, because BD grew

994
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: up in uh you know, in the seven nine I

995
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: think seven nine Swans, which is a blood neighborhood, and

996
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: he went to uh No, I went to Freemont for

997
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: a little bit, which is the high school in Baron

998
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: Davis neighborhood where he grew up. But of course he

999
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: got he went to Crossroads because he was Yeah, because

1000
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: he was excellent in basketball. But I think it was

1001
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: I never even asked him why he did it, I think,

1002
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: but I for real think that it was just because

1003
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: he was proud of me.

1004
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

1005
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: I read that doctor dre is a professionist in the

1006
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: studio and that if that thing ain't on point, it

1007
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: ain't you, ain't it ain't getting about. Ain't nobody gonna

1008
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: hear it? Nah, it's not gonna leave those walls. Is

1009
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: that true?

1010
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: It's true, man, Dre will have you in the studio

1011
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: for two days saying it the right way, you know

1012
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: what you said it. He'll be like, nah, you got

1013
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: to say it, and I'll be like it and he'd

1014
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: be like, nah, man it and I'll be like, I'm

1015
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: gonna smoke it, and he'll be like, nah, that's not it,

1016
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: and we'll just stay going back and forth, back and forth.

1017
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: And I had patience. You know, of course he's a doctor,

1018
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: and you know he's supposed to have patients. But yeah, man,

1019
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: we would just go back and forth, back and forth

1020
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: until I got it. And then at the end he

1021
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: would love the one that I said in the beginning.

1022
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: He'd go back and pull it and be like, you

1023
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: know what, this was gonna work, And then.

1024
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: Like, man, out of win, don't spend a day. We'll

1025
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: spend five hours, ten hours a day and a half.

1026
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: And you've took the first one.

1027
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: Anybody that worked with doctor Dre will tell you the

1028
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: same thing. What's the number one thing that you learned

1029
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: from Drake? The number one thing I learned from Dre

1030
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: was patients. I think patients in the game. Man. So

1031
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: I've never really rushed through anything, which is you know,

1032
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, which is probably why

1033
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: I've had longevity in my career. While I'm still here,

1034
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: my you know, fans are still intact, and I'm able

1035
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: to put out projects, you know, and I'm and I'm

1036
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: never lazy. I put out I put out full projects

1037
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: of music that sound collectively great, you know. And I

1038
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: got that from Dre. Beat Drake, give you beat beat

1039
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: selection man, Yeah, Man, anything that Dre puts his hands on.

1040
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: He got a plethora of producers and whatnot. But there's

1041
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: two people in this game, uh. And I never worked

1042
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: with Quincy Jones before, but I have worked with or

1043
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: three people I have worked with for real, DJ Quick

1044
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: and Doctor Dre kind of uh Swiss beats, and I

1045
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: guess it's it's we got a lot of times that guys.

1046
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: But these guys are really really amazing producers. But doctor

1047
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: Dre and DJ Quick are mad scientists, man. And I

1048
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: think Quick is a little bit more of a mad

1049
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: scientist than Dre. Wow. Yeah, how did you? How did

1050
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: you become a part of Gene unity?

1051
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: They because you weren't you? You? You was your own thing,

1052
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: doing your thing. And then I think fifty with with

1053
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: with dre uh brought to Dre by m Yeah, and

1054
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: then how did you? How did you and fifty and

1055
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: that all come y'all became.

1056
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: Gu Jimmy Ivien didn't really know what to do with me.

1057
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: I had a buzz in the streets, but he and

1058
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: he so ultimately he felt like if he put me

1059
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: in g on it, then they would have young Buck

1060
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: from the South Yaloe Banks and fifty from New York,

1061
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: and then me from the West, so we would have

1062
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: America sold up as the members. He would call us

1063
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: the Blake Black Beatles all the time to this day.

1064
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: I see Jimmy Ivan, he say you fucked up the

1065
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: Black Beatles every time man, I see him. But yeah, man,

1066
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: that's how I got in there. I think that they

1067
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: just it was Jimmy's genius idea to just throw me

1068
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: in and make sure that the group was good on

1069
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: all sides.

1070
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: Would we have let me ask you a question, had

1071
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: you not joined g unit. Would the game been able

1072
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: to go solo had he not been, because it seemed

1073
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: like it was a part.

1074
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: You had to become a part of this. I think

1075
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: that I think that I was signed to Doctor dre regardless.

1076
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: I think because of who I am as a person

1077
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: and my determination to be great at things that I do,

1078
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: and once I set my mind or something, I'm gonna

1079
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: achieve it, I think i'd have been I think I'd

1080
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: have been fine. But I do appreciate my short G unit,

1081
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, stint, but I think I'd have been great regardless.

1082
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: How did you and fifty mesh so well at the beginning.

1083
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you put two people

1084
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: together and they're just talented. Man, It's like, I don't know, man,

1085
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of like La and U. I mean you

1086
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: know yeah, Like I remember I watched and I would

1087
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: just be like, man, these dudes, you know, got chemistry,

1088
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: and it was just it was like far than sterling.

1089
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: Same thing, man, like you get you put two people

1090
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: together and we see it all the time. We see

1091
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, Kobe and Shack. We see you know, uh

1092
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: like uh Magic and Kareeman. Like it's just sometimes when

1093
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: you put two very talented, multi facetted people together, You're

1094
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: gonna get greatness. Right.

1095
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever talk because I mean some people think,

1096
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: well they bonded over both getting shot, both almost losing

1097
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: their lives to violence. Did you guys ever talk about that?

1098
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: You know what, man fifty you don't really talk about

1099
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: much but money. Hey, he talk about money, man, he

1100
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: get it. If it ain't about money, he ain't gonna

1101
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: He ain't about it. He ain't about it. Man, he

1102
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: talk about money, but he can he can definitely tell

1103
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: you how to get some money. Man, it's going so well,

1104
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Genie unit is doing. I mean, y'all come out boom boom?

1105
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: How did it? How did up to start so well

1106
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: and so bad? One day I went to uh, I

1107
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: think High ninety seven, talked to phone FLEs or something,

1108
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: and uh they asked me, they were like, fifty got

1109
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: beef with jadakiss In Fat Joe and Nas. And I

1110
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: was like, WHOA, I ain't signed up to beef with

1111
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: guys that I idolized. I had looked up to the

1112
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: locks and kiss they were rapping before me. I used

1113
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: them as you know, guides to like get me to

1114
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: where I was. So Yeah, so I, you know, I

1115
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: came up on listening to Jadakiss and Fat Joe digging

1116
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: in the Crates and the Digging in the Crates crew

1117
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: and then Nas Man that was like my top three

1118
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: rappers ever. And like I said, Fifty don't talk about

1119
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: none of money. So nobody never told me that the

1120
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: group was beef beefing with Nas and Fat Joe and Jadakiss,

1121
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: So I wasn't preppy to it. So I was like, yeah,

1122
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't really got nothing to do with me and

1123
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: I And to be perfectly honest, me and Fifty we

1124
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: were in the group, but I wasn't in it for

1125
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: that long and we weren't friends. They just threw me

1126
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: in the group. And I appreciated the ally you, but

1127
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: we want homies. So a lot of people getting misconstrued.

1128
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: They think that like we were best friends or something

1129
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: and I betrayed this friendship or something like that. But

1130
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: what I did was stay loyal to you know, my my,

1131
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: the people that like I listened to coming up right, like,

1132
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: I just can't beef with Nabs because you before and

1133
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with no right and I

1134
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: don't and I didn't even know you had a problem

1135
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 1: with NOAs till today. So you know, on the fly,

1136
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: I just said what I said. I was like, I

1137
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: can't I'm not beef with with nas and them.

1138
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: And they got back then they felt you being disloyal, right.

1139
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: Because fifty felt like he gave me a shot, which ultimately,

1140
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, being being a part of G Unit did

1141
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: help escalate, you know, my career in the early stages.

1142
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: But I would have got there regardless. I feel like,

1143
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, were you making good money at you Unit? Uh? Yeah,

1144
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: we was making money, but fifty it was making more

1145
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: than everybody. What damn? Yeah?

1146
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: What what's what's the issue with So you feel all

1147
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: y'all should have been on level if it's if it's

1148
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: a million dollars, you get two fifty buck, get two

1149
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: fifty fifty, get two fifty Yeah.

1150
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Nah man, I think that. I think it was just

1151
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: one of those things where he made more money and

1152
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: he should have made more money. I was just saying,

1153
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: speaking for myself, saying that we we was, you know,

1154
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: getting scraps what.

1155
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 2: Scraps one hundred and fifty thousand. The show ain't no

1156
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: scraps game.

1157
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 1: Nah man. It wasn't one hundred and fifty thous okay,

1158
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: one hundred found probably about seventy five hundred. How many

1159
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: shows y'all? How y'all doing the show a week? Two

1160
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: shows a week? Yeah, man? And I wasn't there for

1161
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: them all again, So I felt like I always felt

1162
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: like I was a solo artist, man, And so I

1163
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: was a little honery to the whole situation. Anyway. I

1164
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: didn't like being I didn't want to be in New addition,

1165
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm.

1166
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Saying, like, oh, so you Bobby Brown, you broke off. Man,

1167
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to gill Brian's Bobby broke off. It kicked

1168
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: him back the group. He ain't want to lead.

1169
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing with me. It was different, man.

1170
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I always felt like I was a solo artist. I

1171
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: felt like I was, you know, part of a group.

1172
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: Damn did the b get so bad? You do you

1173
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: fifty to get into a shootout? Fifty one there, But

1174
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: we got into a shootout with like his arm security

1175
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: in New York and they were like coming out the

1176
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: back door. I think fifty was getting the car or something,

1177
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: and then the security came around the front and then

1178
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: you know what happened. Happened happened a little. Yeah, we

1179
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: had a little back and forth. How you how you going?

1180
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Hold on?

1181
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: That's your look. I don't understand y'all. Twenty four years old,

1182
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: no game. You used that when you was fourteen. You

1183
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: can't use that, not twenty four Now you grown grown

1184
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 2: that man, You got a kid and everything.

1185
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was in it, man, But like I was

1186
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: telling you before, it takes you a lot of time

1187
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: to undo things that are second nature, man, like you know,

1188
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: being just being from the streets. It takes a lot

1189
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: of time. But y'all would do it. The press conference. Yeah,

1190
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: they paid me to do that.

1191
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: I know how you going, how you get paid? And

1192
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: did you go? And do you start your bucket?

1193
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: Money didn't change how it felt when I landed back

1194
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: in California then, So I know, man, I got this

1195
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: little I got this early, this early entry bipolar ship

1196
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: sometimes And but I think I tell I tell people

1197
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: all the time, I think that in some form of

1198
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: nature that we're all kind of bipolar, right, because sometimes

1199
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: we feel one way and then we feel another way.

1200
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: And so I think that damn near everybody all the time.

1201
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: And so it is what it is. And so that's

1202
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: what you know, I did a lot with explaining, you know,

1203
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: my friendship with Yay. I'm like, you know, he have

1204
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: his days, but we all do. And what we got

1205
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: to stop doing is people is judging people when you know,

1206
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: damn well, when you look in the mirror, you do

1207
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: not see perfection. But we all got something to say

1208
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: about somebody like we don't get Yeah, exactly is it

1209
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: true that Michael Jackson tried to end the beef with

1210
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: you in Yeah? Man, that was a weird story. It

1211
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: don't even sound like it's true. Man, So how how

1212
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: does Mike call you? Mike call me? And uh, Jimmy Henchman,

1213
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: who was my manager at the time. Free Jimmy too, man,

1214
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: since we freend puff. But yeah, he called me in

1215
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: my room. I think we was in Vancouver. He's in Canada,

1216
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: he said, Man, Michael Jackson on the phone. He said

1217
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: it so nonchalanty. I was like, huh what, Yeah, Michael

1218
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Jackson said, Michael Jackson on the phone, Pick up your phone,

1219
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: pick up the phone ring and they put Mike through

1220
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: and I picked the phone. It wasn't Mike, it was

1221
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: some British dude. And he was like, yeah, Michael, it

1222
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: be He'll be here in twenty twenty twenty five minutes,

1223
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself, why you just ain't.

1224
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: Calling twenty y'all ex makee me to stay on the

1225
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: room for twenty five minutes.

1226
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: I pushed speaker phone and I left and on and

1227
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: I went, you know, anybody know me knows that I

1228
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: play video games all day. So I'm in the hotel

1229
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: playing video game. And I left it. And it's got like,

1230
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: you know, the Michael wait for Michael Jackson music. It

1231
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: wonn't like beat it or nothing, but it's just like

1232
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: regular music. But yeah, man, he came in and he

1233
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: was like hey, and I was like, that ain't the hey.

1234
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, he

1235
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: didn't have that that that like, hey it's Michael. He didn't.

1236
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 1: He didn't sound like that. He sounded like a regular dude.

1237
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: So but you could tell it was Michael Jackson. So

1238
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, what's up? And he was like

1239
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: He's like, you know what I want to tell you?

1240
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: And I was like what And he was like that,

1241
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: how we do that? How we do magic? It's magical.

1242
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: It's magical. And I was like, yeah, it's a really

1243
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: good song. He was like, no, it's magical. He was like,

1244
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: I was riding in the car the other day and

1245
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: I told my driver, you put on that fifteen game

1246
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: song that how we do? It's so magical, and he

1247
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: was he said it's magical about thirty times. I was like, Okay,

1248
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: it's magical. But then he said, he said, and then

1249
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what you guys did. You followed it up.

1250
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: You came with that how we do, and now it's

1251
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: a whole magic show. You guys are so magical together.

1252
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't understand why you guys are

1253
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: at odds or beefing. He was like, I got an

1254
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: idea we should we should fix the beef on my album.

1255
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: And that's when he lost me. And I was like

1256
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: everything after that was like, why we gonna put it

1257
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: on your album? Why do I put it on by

1258
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't know? It's Michael Jackson number one? But I

1259
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: was just you didn't think he was being truth for

1260
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: you didn't. No. I just was like I hated fifty

1261
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: so much at that time. I just was like, Mike

1262
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: threw me off with that, and I was just like, yeah,

1263
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: he lost me in the conversation. So I ended up

1264
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: hanging up. You hung up on Mike? I did it?

1265
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: Come on game, you can't hang up on Mike. That's

1266
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: the greatest artist album. Yeah, I know, man if I

1267
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: get again Man twenty four, You getting to a beef

1268
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: with with Yah? Yeah, I took that one on with

1269
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: fifty early on because I knew about that one, Okay,

1270
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, right, And I felt odd

1271
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: about that because I was cool with IRV Gotti. But

1272
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: I was on Aftermath and when get Rich of Dot

1273
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: Try and got dropped, Fifty was going straight at Jah.

1274
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: I hadn't had an album out yet, so I kind

1275
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: of like had the pigback. I piggybacked off that one

1276
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: and I didn't have but again, I didn't have no

1277
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: business and that beef, I wasn't even in GENI on

1278
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: it yet. I just went in. But I thought, like

1279
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, after Math, like I gotta I gotta show up,

1280
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: and so I jumped off the I jumped off the

1281
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: ledge of that one.

1282
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: You mentioned Kanye, You and you and Kanye. So Kanye

1283
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: was friendic, but and he's go he goes through some

1284
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: things like like bipolar. I mean one moment he's like

1285
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: extremely there's no denying his talent. We're not here to

1286
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: the fame of the man, and with his talent is

1287
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: second to none. His rap album he produced, he does

1288
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: all that, But don't you think sometime game he goes

1289
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: overboards again.

1290
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where I'm gonna find myself

1291
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: back in, you know, back in that realm of non judgment,

1292
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: you know. And my grandmother, God Rest her soul told

1293
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: me a long time ago, like, you know, you can't

1294
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: be judged by man, you can only be judged by God.

1295
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: So it's like, sometimes I go crazy, and so I

1296
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: can't be like, damn, hey, I think you're going a

1297
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: little crazy like sometimes I do, and so all I

1298
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: can do is be some some ship. Though in my

1299
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: head I'd be like, God, damn it, Yeah, you don't

1300
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: call me this week because I'm gonna have to do

1301
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: it with you, right, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, man,

1302
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm just in full support mode of my brother and

1303
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: me and ye have been down before Rockefeller, before after Math,

1304
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: before all that. We would see each other around l

1305
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: A and we were both trying to get on and

1306
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: just always you know, exchange like words and freestyles and

1307
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: all that. So that been my brother for a long time, man,

1308
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: and I actually like, I actually love him like a brother.

1309
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: That's my guy. But you guys had some had some

1310
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: differences before.

1311
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you and Sterlodna, you know what, I

1312
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: ain't gonna like Gab. I don't think we've ever I

1313
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: mean we you know, we fought like brothers, like because

1314
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: he tried to you know, he tried to get the

1315
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: best of me. I can't let him get the best

1316
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: of me. But now, because that relationship was totally different.

1317
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: Even though he's my brother, he's three years older, he

1318
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: was always more like a father figure, and I treated

1319
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: him as such the same thing. And so why I

1320
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 2: would like somebody that I did that wasn't my brother,

1321
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: I would curse. I never cursed my brother. I never

1322
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: cursed myself. Stop because it's like a father son relationship.

1323
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: It's like a mother son relationship. So I have too

1324
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: much respect to get into it now. My homeboy, Yeah,

1325
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: I've cut some of them out.

1326
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's how it is, except that yay with

1327
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: Yay man, he not he's just not my typical homeboy man.

1328
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: And again, man, he go through you know, his episodes,

1329
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: and so as a friend, as a brother, somebody that

1330
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: actually cares and love and loves them. Should I just

1331
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: leave him by the wayside, nah, man, I should call

1332
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: him like, talk to him. And a lot of people

1333
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: they see what's on the surface. I talked to ya

1334
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, man, and a lot of these situations

1335
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: or sometimes where people might feel like he's diving off

1336
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: the deep end, I mean, diving in the deep end.

1337
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: Like I call him, be like, Yo, it's just you know,

1338
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: it's just what you what we're really doing right now.

1339
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: And then he'll say whatever you say. But then he'll

1340
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: call me back days later and be like, you know what,

1341
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: I feel like this, But again, that's not that bipolar

1342
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: disorder that we may all possess, you know, certain you

1343
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: know amounts of I'm just trying to figure out how

1344
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: this man is supposed to feel.

1345
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be a boy, y'all cool, and then

1346
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: you stay slept with an old lady. You know what, man,

1347
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: I I let me get you twenty four again, hung.

1348
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: I was twenty four now.

1349
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: But you know what, I met Kim before, yea, even

1350
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: though you met her before, Kanye. Even if that even

1351
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying it's true or untrue. But let's

1352
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: just say for the sake of argument, this is true.

1353
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: Why would you bring that up and say it publicly?

1354
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: Man? Sometimes I get two No, Nah, I think I

1355
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: was probably thirty then. But you know what, man, sometimes man,

1356
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: you wake up and choose a little violence. Yeah, yeah,

1357
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: for sure. And if I was sitting here and I

1358
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: told you or I try to make up, you know,

1359
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: an excuse for my behavior at times, it just is

1360
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: no excuse. It's just the wrong thing to do on

1361
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: the right day, you know, Like, I don't I don't

1362
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: stand on none of that. I shouldn't have done that,

1363
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: but I did it. And you know what, Yay who

1364
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: was honest as he is. He called me. He was like,

1365
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, I love you, but can we not ever

1366
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: talk about my wife again? And that they were married

1367
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: at this time. Yeah, And I said, you know what,

1368
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: even though I'm bigger and stronger, you got that. So

1369
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: I gave it to him. I was like, man, I'm

1370
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: not gonna do that no more. And I haven't like,

1371
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: did you call her and apologize? Nah? I don't think

1372
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: you gotta apologize to them. Yeah you do. Man. You

1373
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: put that woman business out there like that game. Damn.

1374
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean, her business was out there, but that ain't

1375
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with you.

1376
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: Somebody else do that. I'm talking about you, I'm talking

1377
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: about Game. I ain't talking to them. If I get

1378
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: them and in the cross from me, I'm gonna ask

1379
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: him about that too.

1380
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1381
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: Man, you know what it is with uh, Chris. I

1382
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of love for Chris jenner Man and

1383
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Chloe and and and Kim and Courtney Man still to

1384
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: this day. And uh, you know we we we came

1385
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: up together too. We were when we was going around,

1386
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, party in LA in the beginning of the

1387
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: early stage of my career. It was Paris, Kim, Chloe, Courtney.

1388
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: We was all chilling. But yeah, man, it just you know,

1389
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: sometimes it is what it is. But I'll apologize to

1390
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: Kim today. Yeah, I appreciate it, you know. Oh right, heyo, Kim,

1391
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: Shannon wanted me to tell you that ain't apology. I

1392
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: want you to do that.

1393
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: You say, Kim, I was wrong for what I said,

1394
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: and I want to apologize.

1395
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: That's how you do it, all right, No, Kim, I

1396
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: was I'm apologetic for the way that I displayed, you know,

1397
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: or discussed or interrelations with the public. Okay, I like that.

1398
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: Uh you mentioned that Kanye gave you? Did Kanye give

1399
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: you two maybox?

1400
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1401
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: Man, see that was what Kim was talking about. She

1402
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: was talking about that thing on the special that they like, Okay,

1403
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: where did the ferraris go? Kanye, where did the mailbox go?

1404
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: Where did they go?

1405
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: And you? Why would you take that? I didn't take them, man.

1406
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: I told him not to send them, and I asked him.

1407
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I asked him twenty times. I

1408
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: was like you sure. He was like, yeah, Man, I

1409
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: owe you a lot more than these cars, but it's

1410
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: just I don't need them. I'm gonna just get some more.

1411
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: And then then I got him and I was like, damn,

1412
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: it's like a little small dinner one. So he probably

1413
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: saw that one was dinner and just wanted some new ones.

1414
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, he gave them to me, man,

1415
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: and he you know, he said it was just one

1416
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: of those things, and you accepted him. I tried not

1417
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: to accept him, man, you ain't try very hard. I

1418
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: even try to send him back and he said, no,

1419
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: I give you some us shoes. You willa say, nah, Brown,

1420
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah. They wouldn't really use it they was

1421
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: they were still still brand new. Man.

1422
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: I because she felt that people knew he would have

1423
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: these episodes and would take advantage of his kindness. Is

1424
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: that like she would ask him, like Kanye, where are

1425
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: the cars? And it's like, nah, I gave him such

1426
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: a touch. I didn't know you was just such and such.

1427
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not. I mean she probably talking about

1428
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, his history of like give me yeah, yes, yes,

1429
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: but we don't frown upon you know, Jeff Bezos when

1430
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: he gives away things or you know, people that have

1431
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Man, sometimes they're charitable. And I'm

1432
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: not saying I'm a charity can but I'm saying people

1433
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: that have a master certain fortune may not be as

1434
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: materialistic as the normal person. So it's like they see,

1435
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, cars every day, so it's probably like nothing.

1436
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: Let me just get east the game. Probably you know,

1437
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: did you keep them? You still got them? They over

1438
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: the day they at the house. I don't drive him

1439
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: as much as I would like to, because I like

1440
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: to bring them out together. But I'm only one person,

1441
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 1: So drive away, hey, man, you and she does.

1442
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: I read what you said. You didn't want to be

1443
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: a billionaire. Why would you want to be a billionaire.

1444
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: That's too much money, man, No, you can have some people.

1445
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: So if I was a billionaire, then I wouldn't be

1446
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: a billionaire because then I would be there and gave

1447
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: it all the way. It's too much. They got to

1448
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: give it all the way. But you can. I mean,

1449
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: there are some causes that I'm sure you would like

1450
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: to help. Let me tell you, man, anything above one

1451
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: hundred thousand is one hundred thousand, I mean one hundred million.

1452
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, anything one hundred thousand, that's going you don't

1453
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: know where you're going with that. But anything above one

1454
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: hundred million is just x way too much. Man. You

1455
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: don't No one needs that. I don't know about that game,

1456
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: but I showed like to find out if that's too

1457
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: much shitny rich Man.

1458
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm healthy, I got my life, I got

1459
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: my kids, I've got people that love me. Yeah, I'm okay,

1460
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: but uh, a billion I just think about all the

1461
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: stuff that I could do, like help my university Savannah State.

1462
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: There are a lot of causes that I would really

1463
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 2: luck to get behind it and to really help.

1464
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: Right, which would make you not a billionaire anymore. That's okay,

1465
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. But see if I have a billion.

1466
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: So if I have a billion and I gave like

1467
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: five hundred million away, I still be Okay.

1468
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's still too much money. You're gonna end up

1469
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: giving more away, and you're gonna get back to probably

1470
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: where you are now. No, no, no, don't get that

1471
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: much with it. Yeah me, man, I'm not. I'm not

1472
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: that materialistic. Man. I don't put like, I don't put

1473
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: any love value in. I mean, like any love and

1474
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: two material things. Yeah, I got nice things, but I

1475
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: don't anybody knows me and tell you if my car

1476
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: get broken into or somebody steal something from man, it's

1477
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: like I don't care.

1478
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: What if you called them breaking into your car.

1479
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: Now that's a different issue. It's a material thing. Just

1480
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: a go ahead, go ahead. At that point, man, you

1481
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: are you're challenging my manhood and you're also in violation

1482
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: of my home or my private space. And so I

1483
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: got to get with your ass.

1484
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: I read that when you first started, even though you

1485
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: had all this money, you still lived.

1486
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: In the hood. Yeah, man, I was twenty four. It

1487
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: just really up here for you. But it's a lot

1488
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: of crazy ish. It was because I have money. Man.

1489
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: I had a lot of money at one I remember

1490
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: one point. At one point in time, man, I had

1491
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: four million in the safe right in the hood. And

1492
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: the reason I did that is because every morning I

1493
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: wanted to see it, right, I wanted to open the

1494
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: safe and see and make sure that I was still rich,

1495
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: because I couldn't believe it. And so I never put

1496
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: in the bank until one day my mom was like, boy,

1497
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: you're about to She was like, boy, you're about to

1498
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: stay with this motherfucker I ever rememter my life. Number One,

1499
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: you have number one record on the billboard and you're

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: still living on the block. And number two, you got

1501
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: all that cash over there, they gonna be taking from

1502
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: you any day. Yeah. Yeah, So she made me put

1503
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: it in the bank. Yeah, that had to be a

1504
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: big ass safe because there's a lot of cash. Then

1505
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: I lost thirty thirty six percent of it. How to

1506
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: Uncle Sam man a bro. Come on, man, soon as

1507
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: you put your money in the bank's gone. But first

1508
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: of all, you're gonna have to pay taxes on it

1509
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: when you got it. Anyway, hood ain't gonna pay nothing,

1510
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: you know, as long as I long as I put

1511
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: that combination and open that door, and every time I

1512
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: did it, say.

1513
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: But living where you were living and driving nice cars,

1514
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, that brings on resentment. That brings on jealousy,

1515
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: and you have to be careful because people are like,

1516
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 2: oh man, this nizza just trying to show out in

1517
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: front of us, and then you know what that happened.

1518
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,440
Speaker 2: You know what happens. You know, jealousy brings on resentment.

1519
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: Resentment brings on people want to do things to you.

1520
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had several shootouts during the process where the

1521
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: documentary was out. We had a lot of shootouts, but

1522
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: it was normal to me. I was already I remember

1523
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,440
Speaker 1: one specific time, the one that changed. There was two incidents.

1524
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: I went to the documentary album release party with the

1525
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: whole front window shot out my range rover. It was

1526
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have a window, so I was on the

1527
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: one ten Freeway with the wind just coming through the car.

1528
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: Pulled up parks cause I was like, I can't not go,

1529
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, but we had just had a shootout and

1530
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: wanted One of the bullet holes went through my son's

1531
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: car seat and that was the turning point. That's the

1532
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: day I was like, yeah, I can't this, I can't

1533
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: I can't do it over here, no more. You didn't

1534
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: make that was lie until I saw the bullet hole

1535
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: in my son's car seat. Then I knew, I knew

1536
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: who it was. I was tripping. You got episode after that,

1537
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: You like, I'm out. I left everything. I got this

1538
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: problem where when I move, I leave everything that I

1539
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: had in the previous house. I'll just leave it. I've

1540
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: done that about five times in my career.

1541
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: But you brought but you purchased some homes on the block,

1542
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: all of them.

1543
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had the But see that's another thing.

1544
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: Why why us Why it was hard to really take

1545
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: advantage of us in the hood because we lived on

1546
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: a cold desac right, So if you came down there,

1547
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: you was trapped. There was no other there was no out. Yeah,

1548
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: you got it. And so it was one, two, three,

1549
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 1: six houses on the block. We had them all. All

1550
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: the homies lived in all the houses. And before you

1551
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: even made a right on the block, somebody would stop

1552
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: you at gunpoint on the corner, roll your wind up

1553
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: down and ask you who you here to see? Now,

1554
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: had I did that in this day and time, I'll

1555
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: be up in that thing fighting Rico, Yeah for sure. Yeah,

1556
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: But again so I'm Tobauble when I was twenty four, man,

1557
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: it might be Kobe, you know, it's my lucky number.

1558
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: When you look at like what happened to Nipsey. Yeah,

1559
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: Nipsey ended up getting gunned down in his own hood,

1560
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: which is tragic because he tried to do so much

1561
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: to help the community were in which he came, right,

1562
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: and it was someone from the very.

1563
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: Community that took its life. Yeah, when you look back

1564
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: and you think, like, damn, that really really really could

1565
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: have been me. Yeah, the difference between the difference between

1566
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: that situation and I, again, I wasn't I wasn't there.

1567
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: And nip is one of those one of those great

1568
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: humans man that that he he was gonna he was

1569
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna do a lot more, a lot more for a

1570
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: lot for a lot of people, and he was gonna

1571
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: be probably bigger, a bigger structural, structural figure for adolescent

1572
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: youth in Los Angeles then I'll probably ever be. Because

1573
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: my thing was to get out and never go back, right,

1574
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: you know, And that's how I feel. And I felt

1575
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: like Compton took so much for me, La took so

1576
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: much for me. Why do I want to go play

1577
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: reindeer games on the block with the homies. When I'm

1578
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: already I've already made it out, so I limit, I

1579
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: limit my presence in the hood. But when I do go,

1580
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm going thirty and forty deep. And I'm not saying

1581
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: these days you know these I mean, if I do go,

1582
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: it's still the same. But yeah, man, you gotta roll

1583
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: like that in all hood. I mean, or you can

1584
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: roll up to Jesus and tell them why you're here.

1585
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: That's just how it is, man, That's how it is.

1586
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: But but then they get mad and it'say about, well, game,

1587
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 1: don't come back because y'all don't appreciate me.

1588
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: Why why come back to this? I left this? Yeah,

1589
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: and I think you know, y'all should appreciate and be happy.

1590
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: Like man, he was the ones that made it out

1591
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: you see, guys, you can make it out right.

1592
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: Why why are we we us like that? I think

1593
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: I think it's the way the way you come back,

1594
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: you know. And Nit and Nip did it. He did

1595
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: it the right way. I think that it was just

1596
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: one of those things that it was one of those

1597
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: coincidental times where the devil meets a higher power and

1598
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: then they intersect and the outcome was him meeting the

1599
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: untimely demise. I think about that day when I got

1600
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: that call a lot. I also think about times where

1601
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: where situations I put myself in could have rendered me

1602
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: helpless and for sure, like, I'm not gonna sit here

1603
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: and lie to you, There's no way I should be

1604
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,839
Speaker 1: alive today. After everything that I've been through, I've brushed

1605
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: I've had brushes with death multiple mo and I mean

1606
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: multiple times, twenty thirty times in my life to where

1607
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: I've somehow miraculously, you know, made it out. And it's

1608
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: not everybody's story. So is it luck? Is it energy?

1609
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: Is it? I don't know what it is, man, I

1610
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: just I just know that Nip not being here no

1611
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: more is as tragic today as it was on the

1612
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: day that happened. I hate that that happened to such

1613
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: a good person. And I knew him. I was part of,

1614
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, his come up story, you know, And that

1615
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: was the first time in our I think, in our

1616
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: lives that we've seen a rapper get killed and got

1617
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: lose his life on the internet in a video that

1618
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: we could watch. And so that was so impactful that

1619
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: it was it was a death heard around the world

1620
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: and So that's why I think that it's important for

1621
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: his brother Sam, and for his family and for us

1622
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: as you know, friends and fans, to make sure that

1623
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: his legacy is everlasting. Man, because he was a super

1624
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: solid guy.

1625
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 2: You said something very interesting, and I asked you. I said,

1626
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: why can't when we make it, we go back? And

1627
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: you said, it's how you come back game? So you

1628
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 2: mean to tell me if I leave that neighborhood and

1629
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: I come back and I've made it be I'm a

1630
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: an NBA superstar, I'm a rap star, I'm an entertainer.

1631
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: How have I made it? You mean to tell me?

1632
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: I got to come back with those same raggedy clothes.

1633
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: I got to come back in the same raggedy car. No.

1634
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: I when I said it's how you come back, I

1635
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: mean like in a week, I gotta I'm the Grand

1636
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: Marshal of the Compton Parade. Okay, right, I'm going back,

1637
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: but I'm coming back on that type of time. And

1638
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: so I said that. You know, Nipsey nip was an

1639
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: exception because you put the Maratis Marathon store there. He

1640
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: was always back, given to the neighborhood, and he was,

1641
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little bit more present than he

1642
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: should have been. But yeah, I think I think it's hoighed.

1643
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: But then again, man, sometimes man, God has his way

1644
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: with all of us and we can't. I mean, I've

1645
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: never met a human that could question God.

1646
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: Does sometimes I think access. You mentioned that he was accessible.

1647
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes access breed resentment.

1648
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, no, you know you're one hundred percent right,

1649
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, we at that point though, you're at

1650
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: the mercy of negative energy and the powers that be

1651
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter what you

1652
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: do in life. If if something is gonna really happen

1653
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: and it's in the cars for it to happen to you,

1654
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. So that's why your elders in your

1655
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: family or people that are older than you will always

1656
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: tell you, like you better, pray, you know you better,

1657
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: you better give it to God, and stuff like that.

1658
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 1: I think the number one thing in life is having

1659
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: faith because faith will drive you in other things. And

1660
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm not as religious as you know anybody else, but

1661
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: I will say that having faith in yourself and faith

1662
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 1: in the day, and faith in your moves and making

1663
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: conscious decisions will yield better results going forward in your life.

1664
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: If you just take your time.

1665
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 2: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

1666
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 2: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

1667
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

1668
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: simply go back to club profile and I'll see you

1669
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: there