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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody? It's your girl s Rika

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Speaker 1: Foster Brasby, what's up y'all?

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Speaker 3: It's your girls Shayl Swoop.

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Speaker 4: And this is levels to this season two. What we

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Speaker 4: are back for season two and yes, this is the

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Speaker 4: show where we talk about all the things that women

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Speaker 4: go through and listen. If y'all thought season one was fun,

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Speaker 4: season two is absolutely going to be a great time.

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Speaker 4: We certainly have a good show lined up for you today.

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Speaker 4: But first, Happy New Year show.

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Speaker 3: Happy New Year, Boom boom New Year.

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Speaker 1: Same shit, oh grow same? How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great. I was on a cruise for New

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Speaker 4: Year's and.

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Speaker 1: I had a ball. I had a fucking ball, Like

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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 4: You stay on a cruise, and you know what, I

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Speaker 4: realize why I love cruising. Do tell the flexibility of

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Speaker 4: being able to visit different countries without the need to

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Speaker 4: book a room, book a hotel, without like trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out what my itinerary is going to be listening.

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Speaker 4: I can go visit five different places. I've got eight

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Speaker 4: hours in each place. Whatever I want to do. That

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Speaker 4: is plenty of time for me to get sun, go

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Speaker 4: do an excursion, eat some food, and then take my

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Speaker 4: ass back to the boat and I can say I've

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Speaker 4: been there.

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Speaker 1: I do like that hard like that, like that said,

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Speaker 1: like that's it. I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it, love it each and every time, each

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Speaker 4: and every time.

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Speaker 3: How long was this cruise?

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Speaker 1: This time?

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Speaker 4: This one was technically four days, but it was five.

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Speaker 4: So we left on Monday and came back on a Friday.

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Speaker 4: But we don't really count the Friday because you get

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Speaker 4: back at like eight in the morning, so you're like

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Speaker 4: off the boat. But this one was four days. The

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Speaker 4: one before was five days. I've got three that I'm

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Speaker 4: doing this year. The longest is seven days, so I

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Speaker 4: can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Aruba's on day. I don't know. I just came in

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Speaker 1: island this day. I had this discussion.

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Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy is it might be better.

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Speaker 2: For me to start doing cruises versus flying and things

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Speaker 2: like that, because yeah, we know all the stuff that's

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Speaker 2: going on with airplane.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, how maybe to.

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Speaker 3: Sit my ass down and stay home.

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Speaker 1: How far is Galvinston from you in Houston? Not far.

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Speaker 2: It's from from where I lived to you know, I

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Speaker 2: used to live in Galveston.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I live there.

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Speaker 2: I lived there for two years. I actually liked living there.

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Speaker 2: So it's probably a good.

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Speaker 1: Hour and a half drive.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's not bad because I'm bad. It's not a

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Speaker 2: bad drive at all.

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Speaker 4: Okay, No, because there's a cruise that I want to

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Speaker 4: take and it's leaving from Galveston, Texas, and I ain't

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Speaker 4: never been to Galveston, So I was like, is that

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Speaker 4: a place that I want to This cruise is in June.

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Speaker 3: So here's what I would tell you. Yes, you would

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Speaker 3: enjoy Galveston.

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Speaker 2: So okay, So my husband and I we got married

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Speaker 2: in Galveston. So we got married at Tillman Fertita's Hotel

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Speaker 2: in Galveston, the Saint Luis. So if you're going and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be there for like a couple of days,

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Speaker 2: I would say, absolutely stay at the Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's like.

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Speaker 2: Just bars, restaurants, everything right along the pier, Like would

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Speaker 2: and stay for a couple of days. I'm gonna come

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Speaker 2: hang out with you, not gonna do the cruise. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll come hang out with you, Okay on land.

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Speaker 4: Land, Okay, on land. We're not gonna put you on

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Speaker 4: the water. You're gonna get you on lands. Okay, got it.

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Speaker 4: That's what we and that's that's not a it's not

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Speaker 4: a bad place. That's and that's why I was asking.

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Speaker 4: I've never been to Galvenston, and so like if I'm

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Speaker 4: I don't got shit I want to do there. I

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Speaker 4: But I've never been to Galvenston. So I would like

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Speaker 4: to be in the city like a day or two

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Speaker 1: Just so that I can experience what Galvinston is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you should, Yeah, a couple of days, and you

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Speaker 2: don't need more than a couple of days because you're

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Speaker 1: For twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, one day there twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: Are you're good?

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Speaker 1: I love that. I will keep that. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. What did you do?

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Speaker 1: What you do? I mean, I know what you did,

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Speaker 2: I say this a lot. I don't know if people

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Speaker 2: believe me, like I'm I'm very simple and kind of boring.

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Speaker 3: I was, but it wasn't boring to me. It was

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Speaker 3: like the best time.

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Speaker 2: I literally stayed in my pjs all day. I got

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Speaker 2: on my nice big sofa, I watched Game of Thrones,

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Speaker 2: and at about eleven I'm gonna say eleven twenty, my

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Speaker 3: To just get up and we went sat outside, popped the.

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Speaker 2: Bottle at midnight, and that was that. That's beautiful, so amazing,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to deal with traffic, I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to deal with people. I didn't want to I didn't

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Speaker 1: I love that, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I had to protect my dolls because they were

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Speaker 2: afraid of the fireworks that started at about six pm.

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Speaker 1: But now it was good. It was good for me.

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Speaker 1: That's good I loved that. I actually told her that

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Speaker 2: She asked me, well, she you know, they made big

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Speaker 2: plans and plus she's younger. But I said, listen all

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Speaker 2: when I was younger, though, the thought of staying at

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Speaker 2: home on New Year's Eve never entered my mind.

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Speaker 3: Like the more people, the better, the bigger the better.

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Speaker 2: I spent so many New Year's Eves in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: I just yeah, I'm like, naw, girl, just let me

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Speaker 1: And I love it hosted that, believe it or not.

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Speaker 4: Like I have spent plenty of New Year's Eves in

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Speaker 1: It was like where like where.

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Speaker 4: I'm finna go, you know what I mean, Like I

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Speaker 1: So I would then just bring the party to my house.

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Speaker 4: And I don't necessarily mean like inviting other people, but

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Speaker 4: I would legitimately like set up like I had the food,

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Speaker 4: Eve parties because I want to party on New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 4: But I just party by myself, like or if Greg,

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Speaker 1: So I always party on New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 4: However, I've never been opposed to the party being at

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Speaker 4: my house and considering that I.

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Speaker 1: Am the party, I don't need a lot of people

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Speaker 1: like two of us.

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Speaker 2: Fact, two of us is not the party. That's only

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Speaker 2: the party we late. Fact question for you, question for you.

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Speaker 2: So do you do?

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Speaker 1: Do you do black eyed peas on New Year's Day?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 4: And that was the one thing that pissed me off

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Speaker 4: is that I didn't get black eyed peas, collar greens

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Speaker 4: or corn bread. So Lord knows, I better still be

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Speaker 4: even if my stomach wasn't.

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Speaker 2: So I think you will be because I don't do

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Speaker 2: black eyed peas ever, like, not even on New Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: I never have. But I did do the corn.

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Speaker 2: Bread and the green bean. I mean the corn bread

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Speaker 2: collar greens you don't make.

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Speaker 2: It's give me some red beans.

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Speaker 4: And I and I take pickle juice. You gotta get

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Speaker 4: and pour it on them. It's it like lightens the

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Speaker 4: bitterness of the of the peas. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Well, maybe maybe I don't.

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Speaker 2: I've never eaten them, even younger with my mom, even

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Speaker 1: Because my mom was like, oh no, you're gonna take

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Speaker 2: So I at least took a bite and I girl

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Speaker 2: my face, I was like, this shit so nasty.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say ship to my mama. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't like them.

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Speaker 4: I do know that nowadays I see people eat them

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Speaker 4: with white rice, Like I don't like, you know how

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Speaker 1: And rice or remons peas and write these.

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Speaker 4: I've seen people put their black eyed peas on top

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Speaker 4: of some white rice and like, if that's what works

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Speaker 4: for you, that's I mean, like, if that's what it takes,

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Speaker 4: that's cool, Like but I've never needed that. Like we

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Speaker 4: I love it, but I didn't have it this year.

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Speaker 4: But everything else I did. I made sure my house

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Speaker 4: was clean before I went to went on vacation. I

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Speaker 4: even and this is I never do this, but I

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Speaker 1: So you didn't bring dirty flue around with y'all.

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Speaker 4: With these superstitions are for real, you don't bring No,

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Speaker 4: you don't have no dirty clothes in New Years?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I did all of that. So I didn't

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Speaker 1: do all of that.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I didn't have for black eyed peas.

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Speaker 2: But this isn't the first year that I didn't have

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Speaker 2: black eyed peas. And I feel like my my luck,

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Speaker 2: my fortune and all that has been okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean throughout the years. Well guess what, you

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Speaker 4: know what we tend to Let me tell you about this.

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Speaker 4: I love us in the way that we have our

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Speaker 4: superstitions and we have our things, our traditions, like these

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Speaker 1: No matter who you are, where are.

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Speaker 4: You from, I'm gonna go on a limon say most black,

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Speaker 1: She ain't y'all wife. She my wife. And honestly, you know, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Acting like y'all ain't never been nowhere because y'all ain't

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Speaker 4: You're talking about my wife in his dress, so fast forward.

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Speaker 1: Keep my wife name right now. He did.

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Speaker 3: He didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: He didn't say the way he's the way he defended

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Speaker 2: of course there was some folks, yeah, who ain't like

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Speaker 1: But there were some people who spoke out.

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Speaker 1: That's what that man said. That's what that man said.

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Speaker 2: He did say that.

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Speaker 1: That man called that man's wife a two dollar hole.

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Speaker 1: Well you know what he said.

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Speaker 2: He said, I didn't call her looking like that. I

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Speaker 4: So here we are to the end of this saga

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Speaker 4: And the problem that y'all have is that y'all want

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Speaker 1: I make that what it is.

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Speaker 4: And so essentially, y'all caun gets my ass because I'm

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so sure as I broke all of that down,

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Speaker 1: Broke it down. You broke it all down.

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Speaker 4: You know, what were your initial thoughts and where are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you broke it down.

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Speaker 1: You broke it down.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, I got an opportunity to meet

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Speaker 3: And Florida called to accelerate her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like had a very small conversation with him.

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Speaker 2: He is one of the main reasons why we boycotted

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Speaker 2: okay right, like using his voice, his platform. So we

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Speaker 1: But when I saw the dress, honestly, I was like.

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Speaker 4: Did him, Okay, you wearing that dress?

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Speaker 1: Same thing in the exact same way. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Yes, And like she said on the Tameron Hall show.

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Speaker 2: She felt the dress was appropriate. Her husband felt the

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Speaker 3: And I love what If y'all haven't listened.

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Speaker 1: But what I really loved was when.

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Speaker 3: They ain't talk about the four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: We raised for the HBCUs because that ain't gonna make

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Speaker 3: All taught that the pastor's wife who's the first lady,

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Speaker 2: But I also will say times have changed, things have changed,

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Speaker 2: And I think that's exactly what doctor Carry did. But

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Speaker 2: Like she said, she said, my ego ain't that big

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Speaker 2: I put the dress on. I like the dress. My

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I tried my best to not really

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Speaker 1: Sure, right, but sure, yeah, I'm a PK.

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Speaker 4: I quite literally grew up in the church and in

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't have mattered what she put.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't have mattered a day. And I say that she

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Speaker 4: hear me, It didn't matter if she put on that

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Speaker 4: white dress. It didn't matter if everything was a two piece,

442
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: it didn't matter. There was nothing she was gonna wear

443
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: that was gonna have that booty. The booty was where

444
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 4: it was. And yet there were still going to be

445
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 4: people to police what she wore and how she wore it,

446
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 4: just because you're the first lady. First lady ain't supposed

447
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 4: to do this. Show me, where in the Bible does

448
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: it say that the first lady is required to wear

449
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 4: a certain thing or not a certain thing? Show me,

450
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: where in the Bible does it say because we want

451
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: to always bring up modesty, and we all like, sure

452
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 4: people saw doctor carry Turner's dress and assume that the

453
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: sheer part of the dress was nudity, and that's what

454
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Speaker 4: there was.

455
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Speaker 1: Two things to me that pissed people off.

456
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: They either assume that this woman who represents the first

457
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: as being a first Lady was out here half naked,

458
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 4: or they don't like Pastor Jamal Bryant because of his

459
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: past transgressions, because of his perceived affairs whatever that he's

460
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 4: had with other women. I don't know them, to be honest,

461
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: I didn't even really know the man like that or

462
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 4: anything about the man like that. So this is all

463
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 4: stuff that I'm reading that you know, he's a he

464
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: cheated on his ex wife and blah blah blah blah

465
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 4: blah and all this other stuff that gota do with me?

466
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 4: How got not do with me? To be honest, ain't

467
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: gotta do with me. And I don't expect perfection from

468
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: those who are in the pool pit. I just don't

469
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Speaker 4: because I grew up a p K and my grandfather

470
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Speaker 4: who raised me, Reverend Joseph E.

471
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Speaker 1: Thompson Senior, was not perfect.

472
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 4: I saw noa is Jesus, and he died on the

473
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Speaker 4: cross to their science like that's all one.

474
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Speaker 2: So I'm so glad you brought that up. So because

475
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Speaker 2: here's two things I want to add to that. First

476
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Speaker 2: of all, would we even I don't mean you and I,

477
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Speaker 2: but I'm talking about all the people who had the

478
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Speaker 2: things to say. Would we even be having a discussion

479
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Speaker 2: about this if doctor Carry didn't have.

480
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Speaker 1: A body like that? That's what I'm saying, right like,

481
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Speaker 1: would we because I don't know. Here's the second thing.

482
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: People in the church.

483
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: Are so quick to pass judgment and to talk about

484
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: people and bring people down. But you want to tell

485
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: the rest of us mm hmmm, it ain't our place

486
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: to judge that. That's not for us to do.

487
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Speaker 3: Well, why are you doing it? And especially as a pastor?

488
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: Why are you out here judging this woman her husband

489
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: talking about him like you really called this woman or

490
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: said this woman looks like a two dollar home?

491
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Speaker 1: You feel me?

492
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Speaker 4: Like?

493
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Speaker 1: Make that make sense?

494
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Speaker 4: There are so many different verses in the Bible that

495
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Speaker 4: talk about judgment that these people don't seem to understand,

496
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Speaker 4: and one of which, specifically if you, if you and John,

497
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Speaker 4: it's specific he says, do not judge by appearances, but

498
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Speaker 4: judge with right judgment.

499
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Speaker 1: In the New International Version.

500
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Speaker 4: If anybody was wondering what translation that was, I'm just

501
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: letting you know I told you I'm a pk okay.

502
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Speaker 4: I might even be borderline, he though, because some of

503
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: the ship that I do or say I know better,

504
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: I know better. I do it any dayn I know better,

505
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Speaker 4: But I mean we all do. It's the hypocrisy of it,

506
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: all right. And and when you add that too, and

507
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Speaker 4: we're going to take a really quick break when we

508
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Speaker 4: come back. There's something else that I really want to

509
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Speaker 4: touch on that I think is being missed in this

510
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Speaker 4: conversation that Pastor Brian did kind.

511
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Speaker 1: Of bring up but really needs to be discussed. We'll

512
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Speaker 1: be right back.

513
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Speaker 4: I saw one of the rationals behind people's uproar about

514
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: this dresses that as the first lady, you shouldn't be

515
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: wearing things that caused men to lust over here. But

516
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, the last time I checked back in Exodus,

517
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: when they dropped them ten commandments, one of them was

518
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: thou shalt not cover that neighbor's wife.

519
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: So why is the onus.

520
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: On her to dress a certain type of way to

521
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 4: ensure that men aren't lusting over her? And there are

522
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: no onuses being put on men to maybe keep you up,

523
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: you know what, down to maybe act like you got

524
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: some sense when you see another man's wife. And this

525
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 4: is something that was briefly touched on, but there is

526
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: a whole double standard in the Black church, specifically when

527
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 4: it comes to what is required of women and what

528
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: is required of men. Ain't nobody asking the men of

529
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Speaker 4: the church to dress and look a certain way. Ain't

530
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Speaker 4: nobody asking them to do a certain thing, to hold

531
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Speaker 4: a certain like.

532
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Speaker 1: Nobody's doing none of that.

533
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: But it's up to the woman to make sure that

534
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: she is acting appropriately and accordingly as to not tempt men.

535
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: Tell them, you know what, to get that shit together

536
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: and stop acting food.

537
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Some have some decorum. Well, t here's the thing.

538
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Speaker 2: And as a woman, and in particular as a Black woman,

539
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter what we do. Somebody's always going

540
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: to have something to say, Just say, just say. She

541
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: would have walked out in some sweatpants, some big old

542
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: oversized T shirts, some sneakers.

543
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Speaker 1: They would have talked about that, like, ain't she a

544
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Speaker 1: first lady?

545
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 4: Why would she go to a gallo with that one?

546
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it doesn't really matter.

547
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: My My thing is take care of your house before

548
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: you come over here and try to clean mine up,

549
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: because I know your house ain't spotless.

550
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: There's no way.

551
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: But I just again, if you haven't listened to the interview,

552
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: please go listen to it because there were so many,

553
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: just so many different things that Tameron asked them, that

554
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: they touched on, that they talked about that I think we.

555
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: All could learn a thing or two from.

556
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Speaker 2: And she even said it like, we're gonna make mistakes

557
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: just because he's a pastor and I'm a first lady.

558
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean we're perfect.

559
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna get some things wrong, we're gonna get some

560
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: things right. But I think that's all of us. All

561
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: of us could absolutely relate to that, absolutely.

562
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And we really need to get out of the

563
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: habit of policing women's bodies like we have been doing

564
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: this from the beginning of time. And what I loved

565
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: about what doctor carry Bryant was saying on the tammeron

566
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 4: Hall Show and just in general, is that women have

567
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: the ability to be individuals.

568
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: They have the ability to.

569
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Speaker 4: Self express and they should have self autonomy over what

570
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: they want to wear and what they want to do.

571
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter how much we continue to say

572
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 4: we're evolving as a people, and we're doing this and

573
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: this is an age in which we're giving women freedom

574
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: of expression and all this other stuff. At the end

575
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: of the day, it is still boiling down to this

576
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: patriarchal society that because if you.

577
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: Peek, if you peep.

578
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Even though there was still out rage, some of the

579
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: outrage calmed down a whole lot when Pastor Brian got

580
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: up there and said, I'm the one who bought the dress.

581
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: Oh, so it's cool now, it's cool because Jamal brought

582
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: the dress.

583
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: But when she but if she had gotten dressed because

584
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: she just wanted to wear the dress, that was the problem.

585
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: So granted, it was still some outrage, but a whole

586
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: lot of it took a back seat when he said,

587
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: I'm the one that bought the dress.

588
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: I liked her in the dress, Like that's an issue.

589
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: I still see that issue with women who are ministers

590
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: and pastors and bishops, that there are people who like,

591
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to that church because they

592
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: let this woman in a pul pit, Like I'm sorry,

593
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: it's the word different because it's being delivered from a woman.

594
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: Man. Then if you want to.

595
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: Talk about the basis of Christianity, the bracest of Christianity

596
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: is to help others.

597
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: It's to be of service to others.

598
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: They went to this event, regardless of what she wore,

599
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: to raise money for needy children who want to fight

600
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: to help their people go to college. Because regardless, I

601
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: don't know if they realized it or not, but with

602
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: forty seven slash forty five in office, people are.

603
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Really struggling financially with everything.

604
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: So maybe the little college fund that you put up

605
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: for your kid, now you might need to tap into

606
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: that because some states don't have funding anymore for them

607
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: to put their babies in daycare or have child care.

608
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: There are still other people who aren't able to recover

609
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: from when they were not getting their assistance benefits at

610
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: the beginning of November to buy food and put food

611
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: on their table. There are so many things that are

612
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: going on in the world as of now that the

613
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: last thing I give a damn about is how this

614
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: woman walked into this event.

615
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Her ass was not out, Like, what do you mean?

616
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: She did not embarrass black women walking into this event,

617
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: Like I don't understand. She did not embarrass her family,

618
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 4: She did not embarrass herself. You really need to get

619
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: over yourself, whoever you are, and if you are truly

620
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 4: a Christian and truly about your word, then you understand

621
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: that our leaders are human just like everybody else. We

622
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: all fall short of God's glory sometime. But this was

623
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: not one of those moments. Friends, This just wasn't one

624
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: of those moments.

625
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: Well, listen, at the end of the day, all of

626
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 5: that you said, at the end of the day. First

627
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 5: of all, I feel this way.

628
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: With this comment she made, she said, when I put

629
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: the dress on, she said, there was nothing in my head,

630
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: my mind anywhere that said this is inappropriate, she said.

631
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty good at like recognizing when something's not

632
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: right with me, she said, But I didn't feel any

633
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: of that right. So you know, sometimes when you put

634
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: something on, do you hear whatever, you'll go back and

635
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: be like this ain't right, or this ain't appropriate, or

636
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: it don't look good whatever. So she was like, I

637
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: didn't feel any of that.

638
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: And so.

639
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, she she is.

640
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: The one that has to answer for everything that she's doing, good, bad,

641
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 2: and different, just like all of us are. But to

642
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: your point, I didn't. It's just me in my opinion,

643
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything wrong with the dress. I thought

644
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: she wore the dress. I thought the dress looked good

645
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: on her. And I want to say something.

646
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: That j Lo said.

647
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: Don't know if you saw this j Lo her last

648
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: little I don't know her tour or her show in

649
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 2: Vegas when she had this outfit on again, people were

650
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: commenting about her and they were like, she should dress

651
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: her age and I loved her comeback when she said

652
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: if you had a booty like this, you be negative,

653
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: I was like, well come on, j Lo, yes ma'am,

654
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: but yes, let's just stop policeing women's bodies and let

655
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: us let us be us and do you know, do.

656
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: What what we really need to do.

657
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: Last point, because you made a good point talking about

658
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: all the things that we have going on Again, Doctor

659
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: Jamal said, why aren't they talking about the four million dollars.

660
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: We raised for the HBCUs And doctor Carrey said, listen,

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Speaker 3: when you finished scrolling and comment, how about you go

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Speaker 3: comment about the healthcare that we're struggling with right now,

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Speaker 3: the medicare that we're losing, all the black women that

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Speaker 3: are unemployed right now, like there are so many other issues,

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Speaker 3: bigger issues we have going on in this country right

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Speaker 3: now than for y'all to worry about.

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Speaker 4: Y'all address at an event that I'm pretty sure none

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Speaker 4: of them ever cared about before, like ever, like you

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Speaker 4: know HBCU product. I've been to several UNCF events. You know,

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Speaker 4: I ain't hardly got day money, but I throw my

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Speaker 4: little fifty one hundred dollars here and there towards because

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Speaker 4: I know very personally what it means to need and

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Speaker 4: what it means to be in a place that is

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Speaker 4: significantly supportive of young black scholars, and I want others

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Speaker 4: to be able to have that experience, right, I'm always

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Speaker 4: pushing people. You know, I got a little little girl

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Speaker 4: little Rowers around here who are always you know, Terika,

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Speaker 4: we love what you do, We love blah blah blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. And I'd be like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're you going to college and they'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we're going to Yukon.

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Speaker 1: And I'd be like, girl, but have you heard of Howard?

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Speaker 1: You're nice, but.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean, I know you live in Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: I know there are in state fees that are much

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Speaker 4: cheaper than out of state fees, But have you heard

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Speaker 4: of Hampton?

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Speaker 6: Like if you are you familiar, like I am pushing

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Speaker 6: Delaware State is right down the street, girl, like let

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Speaker 6: me take you, like I am pushing for HBCUs and

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Speaker 6: so it just it just blows my mind that we

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Speaker 6: are I won't say we in this instance because it

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Speaker 6: ain't me.

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Speaker 1: Just blows my mind that.

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Speaker 4: There are so many people who will focus on the

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Speaker 4: most trivial, non important thing. Then to keep your eye

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Speaker 4: on the prize, on the goal, as my girl Asia

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Speaker 4: will say, keep the main thing, the main thing. This

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Speaker 4: just wasn't one of those things that was worth all

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Speaker 4: this conversation, and we adding right into it with the

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Speaker 4: damn podcast, but it.

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Speaker 1: Needed to be said.

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Speaker 3: It's a conversation that Doctor Carry.

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Speaker 2: And then so the last thing she said on Tamar

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Speaker 2: Hall when Tamor said, okay, my last question.

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Speaker 3: Where is the dress?

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Speaker 2: She was a girl that's in the closet. I am

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Speaker 2: getting rid of it, and they laugh. But Doctor Carry,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, you, just thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Girl for Honda down and honey, if you need somebody

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Speaker 4: to wear the dress, I will slide you my address. Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what size the dress is because Doctor

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Speaker 4: Carry looks like she's smaller than me, but also looks

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Speaker 4: like she's got some parts that are much bigger than mine.

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Speaker 1: So I might not be able to fit that dress,

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Speaker 1: but I love to try.

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Speaker 3: You got.

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Speaker 1: Tiny in the waist.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I could fit the dress in

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Speaker 4: the waste, but Lord knows. Anyway, We'll be back, y'all.

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Speaker 4: I just that's it. I just can't even that's the end.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Fans.

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Speaker 4: We always have such a great time on the show.

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Speaker 4: And you know, today's episode just what better way to

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Speaker 4: kick off twenty twenty six and season two than with

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Speaker 4: some Shenan against because that's what the world we own,

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Speaker 4: some damn Shenan against. But I do know that I

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Speaker 4: have a couple of gallons that I need to attend

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Speaker 4: this year, and so don't y'all come for.

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Speaker 1: Me on social media about my dress. Girl, don't matter what.

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Speaker 1: People gonna be like, what was tea?

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Speaker 4: Because I show, it's gonna have some skin shown. She

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Speaker 4: had fake skin shown, mad real skin shown. Sh They

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Speaker 4: gonna be like, Madam basilis, what did you put on that?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I did, Yes, my back all of it was out

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Speaker 4: to the small of it, all of it was out,

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Speaker 4: damn it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the more moretter.

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Speaker 2: Hacking A fool anyway, well, then this this quote, yes.

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Speaker 1: It's for me in level of so on up then yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not not directly for you, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: great to start the new year off with kind of

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Speaker 2: goes along the conversation we just had. It says, nobody

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Speaker 2: watches you harder than people who doubted you, so give

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Speaker 2: them good show.

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Speaker 1: How did give them something to talk about?

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Speaker 2: Girl? Yes, yes, nobody watches you harder than people who

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Speaker 2: doubted you, so give them a good right.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that is right, that that goes. That goes

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Speaker 4: for this too. We in season two, I know what

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Speaker 4: some haters out there who was like, I don't know

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00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: about Hryl and so Rica's show, Well guess what.

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Speaker 1: Guess what? And we appreciate you doing in so you

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Speaker 1: make sure that you.

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Speaker 4: Continue because we know you're listening.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you.

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Speaker 4: All so much for continuing to support Levels this. We

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Speaker 4: will be back next week with more next Level conversation.

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Speaker 4: But guys, remember this is not just our show. It

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Speaker 4: is our show, So leave us a review on Apple Podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Make sure that you leave us an email if you

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Speaker 4: would like at Levels to this podcast at gmail dot

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Speaker 4: com if you haven't followed us on Instagram. Yet at LTTPOD,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you're waiting on you out here playing,

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Speaker 4: and I don't appreciate that. So we're gonna do better

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. Go ahead and follow us on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: And we'll be back next week.

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Speaker 4: So until then, keep your mentals ground level and we'll

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Speaker 4: talk soon.

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Speaker 1: We out of here.

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