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Speaker 2: spread stay the same, the Eagles getting six giving six
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Speaker 4: Yeah, our one we put up there. This one was
Speaker 4: from Marvin the Super Bowl matchup.
Speaker 3: You're rooting for?
Speaker 4: Your options are Bill's Eagles, Bills, Commanders Chiefs, Commander's Chiefs Eagles.
Speaker 4: You want to guess who people are rooting for? Commander's Bills.
Speaker 4: Commander's Bills right now has fifty seven percent of the vote.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You want to know the one that they're least
Speaker 3: looking forward to, Chiefs Eagle, Chiefs Eagles. Yeah, what the heck?
Speaker 3: Why am I surprised by that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Those are two great teams, they are, but we want
Speaker 2: something fresh.
Speaker 3: One of them has a chance to go to win
Speaker 3: three in a row.
Speaker 5: I know, I know.
Speaker 2: We'll give you our most must win game of the
Speaker 2: weekend coming up a little bit later on.
Speaker 4: We switch Just to be clear that they've all been
Speaker 4: must win games for several weeks now.
Speaker 2: This is the most most must must win win even
Speaker 2: more than last week.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: There there are coaches or players that this is the
Speaker 2: most must win game of the weekend. It may not
Speaker 2: be the team, it may be the person. So I'll
Speaker 2: have that for you coming up, Rick Stroud. We didn't
Speaker 2: think we'd ever talked to Rick Stroud again when Tom
Speaker 2: Brady left he retired, And here he is Rick Stroud,
Speaker 2: the Bucks writer, NFL beat writer for the Tampa Bay Times,
Speaker 2: And here we are.
Speaker 3: Rick.
Speaker 2: Tell me what happened over the last forty eight hours
Speaker 2: with the all of a sudden object of desire.
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Dan.
Speaker 6: We're the land of runaway brides man. Bill Parcells did
Speaker 6: it twice. Chick Kelly did it once. So keep your
Speaker 6: receipt on the crystal stemware around here. But you know, look,
Speaker 6: Liam Cohen did a great job last year in his
Speaker 6: first season with the Bucks on offense obviously, and so
Speaker 6: they didn't want to leave lose him. And they knew
Speaker 6: that he was had one interview with Jacksonville. Virtually he
Speaker 6: was supposed to go up there on Wednesday. Bucks got
Speaker 6: him to agree to a really a record contract, one
Speaker 6: of the highest paid coordinators in football, something like four
Speaker 6: and a half million dollars a year, but it was
Speaker 6: contingent on him not going back to Jacksonville, and they
Speaker 6: thought he was going to come in. There was some
Speaker 6: talk about a zoom call with him and all this.
Speaker 6: He didn't come in on Wednesday, and they didn't hear
Speaker 6: from him from about two thirty on Wednesday till about
Speaker 6: five o'clock on Thursday. He was zero dark thirty on him,
Speaker 6: so I think they got a little suspicious. And finally
Speaker 6: he did call Todd Bowles around five o'clock on Thursday
Speaker 6: to let him know that his kid was in fact sick.
Speaker 6: He had been with him sometime that day. But oh,
Speaker 6: by the way, I'm going to look back into the
Speaker 6: Jacksonville situation, when in fact, I think that deal was
Speaker 6: all but done. So they were they were pretty pretty
Speaker 6: upset in Tampa Bay, as you can imagine, and now
Speaker 6: they need.
Speaker 7: A new coordinator.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I know that people have brought up his son went
Speaker 2: to the hospital, but in the court, I mean, this
Speaker 2: just looks messy. Yeah that he maybe his son, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously has something going through something. His wife just posted
Speaker 2: something an hour ago. But you still got on a
Speaker 2: plane and went to Jacksonville.
Speaker 6: Correct, Absolutely he did, he didn't say he did not
Speaker 6: tell the Bucks he was there. You know, I've talked
Speaker 6: to many of those guys over there. They're just very upset.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: It's just not the way you do business. You didn't
Speaker 6: have to sign the contract per se, and nothing was
Speaker 6: going to, you know, really prevent you from interviewing for
Speaker 6: a head coaching job. You can't block a guy to
Speaker 6: do that. But you know, the whole uh interpersonal thing
Speaker 6: that that you know, just kind of flying up there
Speaker 6: without telling people he was gone and then not really
Speaker 6: being you know, fortright. When he did tell Todd Bowles that,
Speaker 6: you know, he's kind of looking back into him it
Speaker 6: at that point, I think he'd already been to Jacksonville.
Speaker 6: So the timeline is bad. You know, it's like a
Speaker 6: few good Bucks and we're trying to see check the
Speaker 6: tower logs and see, you know, when he left and
Speaker 6: all that stuff. It's just it's just a mess. And
Speaker 6: in the bottom line is the Bucks will now have
Speaker 6: their fourth offensive coordinator in his many years and for
Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield it might be eight. I'm not sure I've
Speaker 6: lost count, but so it affects them obviously next season.
Speaker 3: What's Jacksonville getting.
Speaker 6: Well, they're getting a guy that they better anchor down
Speaker 6: because he's only you know, he's been to like five
Speaker 6: different places in the last five years. But he's a
Speaker 6: hell of a play caller, he really is. He did
Speaker 6: a nice job schematically. You know, he runs an offense
Speaker 6: that was similar to what he did in Los Angeles
Speaker 6: with Sean McVay. He never called place till he got
Speaker 6: to Tampa in the NFL. But he's a great teacher.
Speaker 6: And these young players, you saw them get better each week.
Speaker 6: Bucky Irving, Jalen McMillan, guys that had to step in
Speaker 6: when they lost Mike Evans, when they lost Chris Godwin
Speaker 6: for the season, and you know, he just he gives
Speaker 6: the quarterback answers, you know, and talking to Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 6: He had some success with Dave Canalis the year before.
Speaker 6: He called him an optimist bully, which is what, you know,
Speaker 6: sort of what he needed, right. But from a schematic
Speaker 6: standpoint and play calling, Liam was at a different level.
Speaker 6: He could go to the line of scrimmage, get him
Speaker 6: out of bad place. And you saw what Baker did right,
Speaker 6: forty one touchdowns, forty five hundred yards, seventy one percent.
Speaker 7: I mean, he was he was.
Speaker 6: Lights out except for too many interceptions. But you know,
Speaker 6: I just think that they're going to miss his ability
Speaker 6: to teach and develop and really, you know, the schematics
Speaker 6: were so good for this football team.
Speaker 3: Is he a head coach though?
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, And and the thing about
Speaker 6: that is as great as he was as an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 6: you know, that's a different job. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: there's gonna be five things a day that you're not
Speaker 6: prepared to have to deal with, you know, anything from
Speaker 6: you know, your girlfriend broke up with you, your mom sick,
Speaker 6: whatever it is, and so that's going to take away
Speaker 6: from his game planning. I assume he's going to continue
Speaker 6: to try to call plays. But if you've got Trevor
Speaker 6: Lawrence and you're trying to you know, turn him around,
Speaker 6: you know, I think that he'll he'll find a way
Speaker 6: to protect him. If they could add some players on
Speaker 6: the offensive line, get a run game going, he's going
Speaker 6: to do great things offensively. But you know, that's that's
Speaker 6: that's the job. The job is much different. You're addressing
Speaker 6: the entire team, You're setting the tone for the franchise.
Speaker 6: And from what I understand, Dan, he's going to have
Speaker 6: control over who they bring in there to to help
Speaker 6: him with personnel. So this is not just the head
Speaker 6: coaching job, but I think in many ways he's going
Speaker 6: to be more involved in a lot of the player
Speaker 6: acquisitions and things like that. So it's a it's a
Speaker 6: big lead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2: You know, if you say, look, I don't want to
Speaker 2: come in under Trent Bulkey, I get it. So you
Speaker 2: go back, they give you this extension. Then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they fired Trent Maulke. Why can't you just
Speaker 2: say to Tampa, look, things have changed here. They're letting
Speaker 2: me have total autonomy here. I'd be crazy not to pass,
Speaker 2: you know, to pass up this opportunity. What would the
Speaker 2: Buccaneers have rescinded their offer, Like, would they have moved
Speaker 2: on from him?
Speaker 6: I don't know that they would have. I mean, I
Speaker 6: think they would have hung in there and let him
Speaker 6: do what he wanted to do. You know, the offer
Speaker 6: was contingent on him not taking the second interview. I mean,
Speaker 6: I think, you know, possession is the biggest thing here, right,
Speaker 6: don't let the guy out of the building. And so
Speaker 6: that was the Bucks intent where it like, we're going
Speaker 6: to make you the highest paid offensive coordinator, but you
Speaker 6: can't take that second interview. So the minute he decided
Speaker 6: to do that, he kind of avoided what was going
Speaker 6: to be his new contract, which he never signed. So
Speaker 6: you know, it was just it was just a game
Speaker 6: of subterfuge. It just it didn't make sense that you
Speaker 6: would kind of sneak around like this. I think that's
Speaker 6: what most people are upset about in the organization, and
Speaker 6: believe me, they're pretty upset about it, but they'll get over.
Speaker 6: It's going to make those joint practices with the Jaguars
Speaker 6: really entertaining next next year, next summer.
Speaker 3: Rick is always great to talk to you.
Speaker 7: Good to see it.
Speaker 2: Dan Rick Strown, bucking NFL beat writer for Tampa Bay Times,
Speaker 2: co author of The Players Coach with Tom Moore, from Bradshaw, Manning,
Speaker 2: Brady and Beyond, host of Sports Day Tampa Bay podcast.
Speaker 2: All right, a couple of phone calls in here, got
Speaker 2: our poll question for hour two Seaton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we had the one.
Speaker 4: I didn't know if we were going to go back
Speaker 4: to figuring out unlikable teams that had become likable.
Speaker 3: Okay, because right Now you kind of have.
Speaker 4: The Eagles in there, who, based on our poll results,
Speaker 4: seem unlikable.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't really know why, though it might be
Speaker 3: their fans.
Speaker 4: Okay, no offense, Maybe some may Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Are the LA Dodgers entering that category or in that
Speaker 9: category with how they are overspending in comparison to the
Speaker 9: rest of baseball? The Yankees had that generation ago that's cooled,
Speaker 9: But the Dodgers feel like they're entering that Geez, these
Speaker 9: guys won't give anyone else a chance category?
Speaker 3: Do you care if people don't like you? If I'm
Speaker 3: a Dodger fan, I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you have to embrace this like Yankee fans
Speaker 2: did in a previous generation.
Speaker 3: There are dynasties where you just say, you're.
Speaker 2: Not going to like us, deal with it, like, I
Speaker 2: don't think that the Chiefs aren't apologizing for anything, Like, okay,
Speaker 2: you don't like.
Speaker 3: Us, So did the Patriots apologize? No?
Speaker 2: Now you might say, are the Dodgers ruining baseball? Now
Speaker 2: that's a bigger topic. But that's a topic really for
Speaker 2: the commissioner. That's a topic for these owners of what
Speaker 2: kind of sport do you want to run?
Speaker 5: Is it.
Speaker 2: You can spend all this money, you can defer money.
Speaker 2: You've got all these billions of billions of dollars with
Speaker 2: the ownership group there, you got a pipeline to players
Speaker 2: in Japan. I mean, they're taking advantage of everything that
Speaker 2: they have, all of their assets.
Speaker 3: But why wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: Now, I may not like it because I want to
Speaker 2: see these other you know, like I'd like for Paul's
Speaker 2: schemes to maybe pitch in a playoff, Gamers or the
Speaker 2: you know, the Reds, you know, to be able to
Speaker 2: be in the postseason. You know, to see Dela Cruz
Speaker 2: on a big stage. I would like to see that,
Speaker 2: But the odds are will see them on a big
Speaker 2: stage in another uniform. I'd like to be able to
Speaker 2: see teams have that opportunity. I mean, the NFL goes
Speaker 2: out of its way to make sure you have parody.
Speaker 2: They're trying their best. You have salary caps, They change
Speaker 2: the schedule. If you finish in first, your schedule's tougher.
Speaker 2: If you finish in last, it's easier. They go out
Speaker 2: of their way to keep the fan bases engaged. And
Speaker 2: that's the only thing I worry about because the Dodgers
Speaker 2: are the Dodgers over under for next season. This is
Speaker 2: the It might be the highest over under win total
Speaker 2: in recent history.
Speaker 10: Arbon one hundred and eight and a half Paul one
Speaker 10: oh two and a half, ton won eleven and a half.
Speaker 3: Seaton dang eleven?
Speaker 4: Uh Paul, you said one O two and a half?
Speaker 4: Yuh one O three and a half.
Speaker 2: Bloop Yes, one O three and a half. And according
Speaker 2: to UH DraftKings sports book history, that's the highest over
Speaker 2: under total for a team.
Speaker 9: Yeah, poet, So the Dodgers are frustrating, but they're not
Speaker 9: dislikable because they're players. Everyone loves Otani, he's transfixing, he's fun,
Speaker 9: Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts. There's not dislikable people on their roster.
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts their manager, right, love their uniforms gorgeous?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, don So when do they.
Speaker 11: Become as likable as they may be the new evil empire?
Speaker 11: Or are they already there? And the Yankees are in
Speaker 11: the rearview mirror in the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: I think they're a likable empire, like a dictator ish Yeah,
Speaker 2: I I don't know if you dis I mean you
Speaker 2: you may dislike the method to becoming an empire.
Speaker 3: But I mean they bought those rings.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But the same with the Yankees, like go
Speaker 2: Yankees wore that a lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah they were that one a lot.
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, Mark, can we stop with the I know
Speaker 10: see it was making a joke buying those rings. No
Speaker 10: one plays for free, like you get you get what
Speaker 10: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So nobody plays place for free.
Speaker 5: I checked that he's right?
Speaker 3: Is that okay?
Speaker 10: Like when somebody says, oh, they bought those rings, I
Speaker 10: mean I would, but the Union won't let me.
Speaker 4: So I just got to take this money.
Speaker 5: Like what does that even mean?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 3: It means you spent more than everybody.
Speaker 10: Else, so stupid, go ahead, But they did, but you're
Speaker 10: supposed to.
Speaker 3: Well not everybody has the money.
Speaker 5: Make more money at me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a war chest of over thirty billion
Speaker 2: dollars I think. And if you can say to Otani,
Speaker 2: why don't you defer all of this money?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: I mean how much does he need? And then you're
Speaker 2: gonna say that to somebody else and somebody else, and
Speaker 2: you're all in it together. You got a chance to win,
Speaker 2: You got to play. You can play in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They're just taking advantage of what is in front of them.
Speaker 2: They're not changing loopholes here. Now you might say the
Speaker 2: deferred money might be, but still that's business strategy. When
Speaker 2: the Yankees were spending more money than everybody else, they
Speaker 2: were doing it, and they were making money.
Speaker 3: From the Yes network.
Speaker 2: They did something nobody else, and then everybody else tried
Speaker 2: to get their own network. The Yankees did a wonderful
Speaker 2: job with that, and whether you liked it or not,
Speaker 2: it was still musty TV and they embraced being the
Speaker 2: evil Empire.
Speaker 3: Yes time.
Speaker 5: If it's legal, it's legal.
Speaker 11: It's like when a quarterback pretends to slide but then
Speaker 11: they reach for that extra yard and they're not quite
Speaker 11: that a bounce yet. Certain quarterbacks in the AFT title.
Speaker 3: No I got it. I'm not sure what that has
Speaker 3: to do with God.
Speaker 9: It's very cryptic, Todd, who are you referencing?
Speaker 3: Anything that's legal is legal?
Speaker 11: You're allowed to do this, even though the current president
Speaker 11: of the United States has admitted to certain tax loopholes.
Speaker 11: And people do whatever they can do as long as
Speaker 11: it's within the law.
Speaker 3: What happened? Where are we going?
Speaker 11: I'm whether it's money or politics or anything whatever. If
Speaker 11: something is legal, take it all the way. You could
Speaker 11: take it all the way to the line, whether you
Speaker 11: are quarterback looking for that extra yard or whatever it is,
Speaker 11: or you could spend your allowed to spend one hundred
Speaker 11: billion dollars on your team, then you go do it
Speaker 11: if you haven't.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes.
Speaker 9: It's like a guy walk out of a store and
Speaker 9: not getting charged for dishes and plates exactly going back.
Speaker 9: It's not cheating or stealing, but it's crossed.
Speaker 3: That was stealing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't exactly a loophole that took advantage. That
Speaker 4: was just straight up we forgot to pay for this stuff.
Speaker 4: You and your wife and then you you know, screeched
Speaker 4: out of there.
Speaker 11: For a moment, we considered going back, and then we
Speaker 11: rationalize there at least I did by these plates are
Speaker 11: probably so overpriced.
Speaker 5: Anyway, we're not getting any bar me.
Speaker 3: You broke the rules. He broke the rules.
Speaker 2: Technically take them back and steal it. They gave it,
Speaker 2: but I'd take a break. I just looked over and
Speaker 2: on my monitor, I see Clay Matthews there.
Speaker 11: I didn't grab the box and run out of the store,
Speaker 11: and all the lights went on and there was alarms
Speaker 11: going off.
Speaker 2: By the way, Clay Matthews looks like he's about thirty three, frustrating, Yeah,
Speaker 2: thirty three.
Speaker 3: All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Clay Matthews Junior the third and we'll
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Speaker 2: The most must win game of the weekend, I have
Speaker 2: that for you coming up as well. Ryan Day, Ohio
Speaker 2: state head coach in an hour from now. The Jags
Speaker 2: they lost their possible head coach, then they got their
Speaker 2: head coach, and Liam Cohen going to the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 2: after saying he wasn't going to go there, then went
Speaker 2: back to Tampa. Then they fired the GM Trent Bulke,
Speaker 2: and then he went back to Jacksonville, and now I
Speaker 2: guess he's agreed in principle to be their new head coach.
Speaker 2: So that leaves Cowboys, Raiders, and the Saints. I don't
Speaker 2: know if anybody's looking for somebody who's still in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But that might be the case, except for the Cowboys
Speaker 2: might be hiring Brian Schottenheimer, although I guess they reached
Speaker 2: out to Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll was Clay Matthews coach
Speaker 2: at US City. In fact, Pete Carroll said, the greatest
Speaker 2: mistake at SC was not starting you until your fourth
Speaker 2: game of your senior year.
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 7: That's right?
Speaker 3: Why did it take that.
Speaker 2: Long for him to realize what he had in you?
Speaker 15: They were they we at the time had you know,
Speaker 15: littered with five star recruits, blue chip ap athletes. In fact,
Speaker 15: my senior year, Everson Griffin came in and Pete had
Speaker 15: named him or he had said that Everson could be
Speaker 15: playing in the NFL as a freshman, so he was
Speaker 15: playing in front of me. So I think it was
Speaker 15: just you don't see a walk on go from being
Speaker 15: a walk on to starting for the number one ranked
Speaker 15: defense in the country.
Speaker 7: So I think that was the ultimate hang up.
Speaker 15: And it took a loss to Oregon State on Thursday
Speaker 15: night for me to actually break the lineup. And if
Speaker 15: we had never lost, that was our only loss of
Speaker 15: the season. Who knows what the history books you know,
Speaker 15: who knows what would have happened.
Speaker 3: Why did you walk on at USD?
Speaker 7: I had no offers. I had no offers.
Speaker 15: I lied to a few people when I got to
Speaker 15: SC because I wanted to fit in. They're like, oh,
Speaker 15: you know where did you have offers to class? And
Speaker 15: I picked some lowly packed ten schools. I said, Arizona,
Speaker 15: Arizona State. Even I even ventured to say Idaho, but
Speaker 15: I didn't have any.
Speaker 3: Well, when did you realize you could play at a
Speaker 3: high level?
Speaker 15: It was probably my third year there. So my red
Speaker 15: shirt sophomore year, I started getting on some special teams
Speaker 15: and making some plays kickoff, punt, just kind of had
Speaker 15: a knack for it and ended up winning Special Teams
Speaker 15: Player of the Year that year as well as the
Speaker 15: following two years. So after that year, I felt like
Speaker 15: I could play. But you know, to say that I
Speaker 15: would have been a first round draft pick, I would
Speaker 15: have been lying to you.
Speaker 2: You're a six time pro bowler and the Packers' all
Speaker 2: time sack leader.
Speaker 3: Has your name been mentioned for a Hall of Fame?
Speaker 7: I'd like to think so.
Speaker 15: So this year I was I was shocked when my
Speaker 15: name wasn't one of the one hundred and seventy guys
Speaker 15: or however that works. And I had my agent look
Speaker 15: into it because I thought I at least deserved the
Speaker 15: opportunity to be within that group of gentlemen. And apparently
Speaker 15: you have to have somebody nominate you.
Speaker 7: And the person who.
Speaker 15: Was the packers, you know, who heads the packers, wasn't
Speaker 15: aware that my five years since retiring was up, so
Speaker 15: I just got skipped over.
Speaker 7: And he is sure.
Speaker 15: He assured my representatives that next year that wouldn't be
Speaker 15: an issue. But that leads to another conversation, which is,
Speaker 15: you know the process of nominating people. I mean, it's
Speaker 15: it's let's just say, cooler heads, you know, prevail. Just
Speaker 15: because I was a little I was a little hot
Speaker 15: about it.
Speaker 2: Well it's tricky though, because it should be. If somebody
Speaker 2: says your name and then you go, yeah, hall of famer.
Speaker 2: But now we see it where you're not a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer now, but in four years you might be
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. You didn't play any more games.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know how that worked.
Speaker 2: Like Sterling Sharp. I think Sterling Sharp's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: I mean, he if we're going to put Terrell Davis
Speaker 2: in injury shortened career or Gail. I mean, he was incredible.
Speaker 2: He won the Triple Crown. I think maybe the first
Speaker 2: guy to win the receiving triple Crown.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dan, we went through this with my dad. As
Speaker 7: a matter of fact.
Speaker 15: So my dad nineteen year career, you know, four time
Speaker 15: Pro bowler, just most games.
Speaker 7: Played by a linebacker.
Speaker 15: I might have the most tackles by a linebacker up
Speaker 15: there with seou But he played for a small market
Speaker 15: in Cleveland for sixteen years and never won a championship.
Speaker 15: And wasn't you know, big on promoting himself and ultimately
Speaker 15: for the first twenty four years he would make you know,
Speaker 15: the top seventy five, top twenty five. And it wasn't
Speaker 15: until the last couple of years when my sister really
Speaker 15: I got to give her credits. He really started campaigning, politicking.
Speaker 15: Where the last year, the twenty fifth year, my father
Speaker 15: finished sixth. The voters came out, you know, they told
Speaker 15: her confident, like hey, he was just he was in
Speaker 15: that top ten but finished six So, like you had said,
Speaker 15: he didn't play anymore games. He didn't do anything different
Speaker 15: within those twenty five years. Since retiring in ninety six.
Speaker 15: Yet somehow he was, you know, a couple of votes
Speaker 15: away from being enshrined into the you know, the Hall
Speaker 15: of Fame, but he didn't for you know, the twenty
Speaker 15: years before that. It's it's an odd process, but I
Speaker 15: do understand what you're saying. There's guys who are you know,
Speaker 15: sure doubt or excuse me, no doubt, surefire Hall of famers,
Speaker 15: and then there's those who you know, kind of have
Speaker 15: to wait a little bit.
Speaker 3: What did it break your dad's heart? Now?
Speaker 15: He's uh, he's always said that he's at peace with
Speaker 15: his career, and he means that, you know. And fortunately
Speaker 15: I got to model, you know, my game after his.
Speaker 15: And so when I got out of the game, we
Speaker 15: none of us ever, you know, we're always ushered out,
Speaker 15: you know, never on our own terms, very rarely.
Speaker 7: And so I think that has allowed.
Speaker 15: Not only myself not to make this about myself, but
Speaker 15: just watching him and how he left the game so
Speaker 15: to speak, you know, conduct himself.
Speaker 2: Really talking to Clay Matthews, super Bowl champ with the Packers,
Speaker 2: six time Pro bowler joining us on behalf of Colt.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that here in a moment. Last time
Speaker 2: you talked to Aaron Rodgers was when.
Speaker 7: Well he text every once in a while.
Speaker 15: I want to say it was it was the latter
Speaker 15: part of uh this season, but it was nothing, nothing
Speaker 15: more than you know, inside jokes and humor.
Speaker 7: I'm sure he needed that at that point in this season.
Speaker 3: So it's not a conversation.
Speaker 2: It's not a close relationship.
Speaker 15: I mean it's it's close, but I mean I'm not
Speaker 15: I'm not gonna ask him in the middle of the
Speaker 15: season or the latter parts of the season, like, Hey,
Speaker 15: what are you thinking for next year? Are you gonna
Speaker 15: stick with the Jets? You going to the Vikings? I mean, what,
Speaker 15: you know what's going on here? So I'm sure I'll
Speaker 15: find out like everybody else. But you know, as we know,
Speaker 15: he's an enigma.
Speaker 3: Was he that way? Though? In Green Bay? We just
Speaker 3: it wasn't put on, you know, a national stage for us.
Speaker 7: Well, when you say was he that way? What are
Speaker 7: you what are you referring to in enigma? Yeah? No,
Speaker 7: he was.
Speaker 15: Yeah, different in difference, not I don't mean that in
Speaker 15: negative connotation. He's always been different. I've always said, you know,
Speaker 15: you you compare him to some of these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 7: The uh, these the I'm gonna call them the raw
Speaker 7: raw guys. And I don't mean that in a negative.
Speaker 15: Way, but you know leaders of team who you know,
Speaker 15: bring the huddle together. Drew Breeses, the Peyton Mannings. I
Speaker 15: always compared him growing up in La to Kobe. You know,
Speaker 15: if you wanted to be great and you wanted to
Speaker 15: be better, you would gravitate towards him and and he would.
Speaker 7: Bring you in.
Speaker 15: And that's why you saw the relationships he had with
Speaker 15: Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Greg Jennings. You know, they they
Speaker 15: were elite at the time, and he was able to
Speaker 15: form that chemistry because those guys had such a strong bond.
Speaker 3: So he led by example.
Speaker 15: He led by absolutely, He led by example. I mean
Speaker 15: practice was so competitive, so much fun. I mean he
Speaker 15: was trying to go at us. It wasn't this you know,
Speaker 15: lovey dovey, you know, hey, you'll get him in the game.
Speaker 15: It was we were going after each other.
Speaker 3: But Kobe.
Speaker 2: There was a fear factor there, Like Kobe wanted to
Speaker 2: crush you even if you were his teammate, like.
Speaker 3: You, I want you to be great? Yeah, was Rogers
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 15: I mean, it's a little different when you're auditioned out
Speaker 15: ball like you know, like Aaron was to his receivers.
Speaker 15: But yeah, I think you know when is enough enough?
Speaker 15: It's four MVPs enough. I'm sure he wonted five. And
Speaker 15: that's why I truly make that comparison to him, because
Speaker 15: I think he wants to crush you. Now, obviously we're
Speaker 15: on the same team, but in practice that's no different.
Speaker 15: And I'm sure you know, watching him this year, you
Speaker 15: see those glimpses of you know, what he has, And
Speaker 15: I don't know what that means moving forward. I thought
Speaker 15: it was I thought for me it was pretty telling
Speaker 15: when he walked off the field with Davante with his
Speaker 15: arm around him, and we remember when he walked off
Speaker 15: the field with Randall Cobb in Green Bay with that
Speaker 15: meant So we'll see if I'm reading into it too
Speaker 15: much just being a fanboy, or what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: But I love it. Do you think he's gonna play
Speaker 3: one more year?
Speaker 7: I think he should play one more year? Do I
Speaker 7: think he will? I don't know.
Speaker 2: What would you do if Mahomes did what he does
Speaker 2: with the going to the sidelines or I'm gonna slide.
Speaker 3: I might slide of sliding, so you hit them?
Speaker 15: Yeah, where I did hit people in twenty eighteen, that's
Speaker 15: when the narrative change. We're talking about Aaron Rodgers. It
Speaker 15: wasn't until Anthony Barr broke his collarbone, I want to say,
Speaker 15: in seventeen maybe sixteen, where the shift changed and you
Speaker 15: weren't allowed to hit the quarterback anymore. And you know,
Speaker 15: some would argue that's a good thing for the sport,
Speaker 15: you know, keeping the Mahomes and the Josh Allens and
Speaker 15: Lamar Jackson's, but they've taken full advantage of it, and
Speaker 15: it's it's hard to man, it's hard to watch, you know,
Speaker 15: these quarterback especially with the flopping too. It's guys making
Speaker 15: fifty sixty million dollars getting every call, you know, having
Speaker 15: so much success, and they're still they're dancing around the sideline,
Speaker 15: they're sliding when they you know, become a runner. So
Speaker 15: it is hard to watch. And I hope there's a
Speaker 15: you know, an onus on changing that next year as.
Speaker 3: Far as okay, what would you do, what would you
Speaker 3: do the rev you know, create the rule.
Speaker 15: The rule is the refs need to stop calling those plays.
Speaker 15: Until the quarterbacks learned that it's you're going to get hit.
Speaker 15: It's part of the game. It's a tough game. I
Speaker 15: mean the type of hits I used to deliver on
Speaker 15: quarterbacks first eight nine years in my career versus the
Speaker 15: last two. That's how the game should be played. You're
Speaker 15: allowed one step, you give them a hit. If the
Speaker 15: quarterback gets the ball late, you got to let him know.
Speaker 15: It's no different than guys coming across the middle. You
Speaker 15: had dbs who put hits, but now there's defensive defenseless
Speaker 15: receivers and you see quarterbacks. You saw that Josh Allen pass.
Speaker 15: I want to say in the I don't know if
Speaker 15: it's the Wild Carter Divisional game where you know he
Speaker 15: got his receiver or running back knocked out, it was
Speaker 15: that's what's going to happen coming across the middle.
Speaker 7: But I'm old school in my thought. I know that
Speaker 7: has to change.
Speaker 15: I just think to answer your question, I think referees
Speaker 15: need to keep, you know, the flags in their pocket
Speaker 15: unless it's truly egregious. And that leads to a separate
Speaker 15: conversation about referees.
Speaker 2: Did you ever have a sack or a hit on
Speaker 2: a quarterback where he felt bad.
Speaker 7: Where I felt bad about it. Never never, although, no change.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I thought about that.
Speaker 15: I didn't have a sack, but I hit Brian Hoyer
Speaker 15: one time and I broke his arm. I broke his forearm,
Speaker 15: and I met him years later, and I apologize. I
Speaker 15: felt I never want to injure anybody. I know everybody
Speaker 15: says that, but truly I felt bad about that.
Speaker 3: But how do you apologize if it's part of the game.
Speaker 15: Oh, like, well, I didn't apologize at the time, but
Speaker 15: when you see him face to face and then and
Speaker 15: then you kind of remove the shield, the mask, so
Speaker 15: to speak, and there's a you know, some humility and
Speaker 15: a human element to it. But no, I didn't apologize
Speaker 15: during the game. It wasn't like, yeah, I got him
Speaker 15: out of the game. But you know, you never want
Speaker 15: to hurt anybody.
Speaker 2: I keep saying that somebody's going to hit Mahomes and
Speaker 2: they're going to take the penalty, they'll take the fund,
Speaker 2: and like, at some point that's going to happen here.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like saying that, but the reality
Speaker 2: is somebody will eventually say this has to stop.
Speaker 15: I you're right, Dan, this might I don't even know. Yeah,
Speaker 15: so I'm the dating on whether and I tell you
Speaker 15: this but in the the two but I will two
Speaker 15: thousand and fourteen NFC Championship game against Seattle, Russell Wilson
Speaker 15: threw an interception and this was right around the time
Speaker 15: they were you know, these crackback hits and stuff, and
Speaker 15: I tried. I tried to give him everything I had
Speaker 15: and fortunately stuck it out. That's when he drank that
Speaker 15: bubbly water that got rid of whatever head injury he had.
Speaker 15: But you're right, that is that is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: So you went out of your way. You were you
Speaker 3: were trying to take his head off.
Speaker 15: I didn't go out of my way to go get him.
Speaker 15: You'll see he was naturally in the way. He was
Speaker 15: trying to make the tackle, but I wasn't. I wasn't
Speaker 15: going to because he was a quarterback. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 15: put my hands up. I was trying to put a
Speaker 15: hit on. That's what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, why are you yelling at me?
Speaker 7: No, I'm you're right, I'm sorry. I'm just till I'm
Speaker 7: taking this out on you.
Speaker 15: But there's this narrative now that you're a dirty player
Speaker 15: if you hit a quarterback, you know, just because the
Speaker 15: rules have changed so much to protect them.
Speaker 2: Do you have a tackling dummy at the house, So, like, kid,
Speaker 2: do you need to hit somebody?
Speaker 7: My kids?
Speaker 1: My kid?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I tackle them. I wrestle with them. We don't
Speaker 15: hit them, we tackle them. We wrestled.
Speaker 3: When's the last time you hit somebody?
Speaker 15: Oh, I didn't get my workout in this morning, but
Speaker 15: it's been a while. I help out with my five
Speaker 15: year old flag football team. Hey, we won the championship
Speaker 15: this year. Yeah, I want a championship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. Does he have a ponytail yet?
Speaker 15: No, no ponytail. He's he's high and tight. He goes
Speaker 15: to a private school, so they frown on that.
Speaker 2: All right, tell me, but you if he wanted a ponytail,
Speaker 2: you'd say all right.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 15: In fact, I probably petitioned the school and say ponytails.
Speaker 15: Why Dan Patrick has me on?
Speaker 3: Dude, you look like you're like in your mid thirties.
Speaker 7: It's that strong hairline.
Speaker 3: No, you look at you looked like you could play.
Speaker 15: Well listen, I mean not to I felt like I
Speaker 15: could still play after year eleven with the Rams. But
Speaker 15: you know, this is a separate conversation. I was ready
Speaker 15: to move on to be a dad. It was my
Speaker 15: second you know, second chapter, third chot, whatever it was
Speaker 15: in life. I was ready to be a dad, but
Speaker 15: I felt like I could still play. I don't know about
Speaker 15: right now, but I appreciate the compliment.
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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again. I hope you're doing
Speaker 2: well and we'll work on that Hall of Fame stuff.
Speaker 7: Hey, I appreciate it, Dan, thanks for having me on
Speaker 7: always plead.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bun. We'll take a break. Oh no, can't
Speaker 3: take a break.
Speaker 9: One point emergency fill in the blanked in NFL news game.
Speaker 3: We have to do this quickly. Okay. Here's the thing.
Speaker 9: From Adam Schefter sources, the Raiders and Blank are aiming
Speaker 9: to work out a deal to make him the next
Speaker 9: head coach the Raiders and blank.
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll. He Carol's correct, what day?
Speaker 12: What?
Speaker 3: Let me take a break?
Speaker 2: I should bring back I should bring back Clay Matthews
Speaker 2: to asking Pete Carroll going to the Raiders?
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Speaker 2: That was Pete Carroll and the ra are in conversations
Speaker 2: about Pete taking over as the head coach of the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Is there an update, Polly Yeah.
Speaker 9: Multiple reports from multiple insiders, rap sheet Pealasaro schefter, Pete
Speaker 9: Carroll and the Raiders now have reached an agreement on
Speaker 9: a three year deal with a fourth year option to
Speaker 9: become the Raiders head coach.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 3: He's a proven commodity. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: And now I note that people will say, well his age,
Speaker 2: what you know, what kind of stability is that? The
Speaker 2: NFL is year to year? That's the way I would
Speaker 2: view I'm not looking at this. It's just like Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick at North Carolina. I don't think I'd sit there
Speaker 2: and go in five years, he's still going to be
Speaker 2: head coach at North Carolina. This is really good. Are
Speaker 2: the Raiders better today than they were yesterday? And the
Speaker 2: answer is yes. Maybe they bring in Sam Darnold. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a USC reunion there with Pete and Sam. You know,
Speaker 2: Brady is gonna turn this thing around, or he's gonna
Speaker 2: try because he's the one running the show. You bring
Speaker 2: in Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Marv, Hey, you've talked about this before, you and PAULI.
Speaker 10: Relevance is a big thing. This makes them relevant because
Speaker 10: right before this they were in no man's land, which
Speaker 10: is not where you want to be. They were like
Speaker 10: on part with the Titans.
Speaker 5: Almost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of feel like, yeah, more than anything,
Speaker 4: it's stability. It's not somebody new, it's not somebody who
Speaker 4: hasn't done this before. It's not somebody who's unproven. It's
Speaker 4: a dude who knows exactly how to run an organization.
Speaker 4: He knows exactly how to fix things, he knows exactly
Speaker 4: how to get going in the right direction. Let's get
Speaker 4: some stability for a couple of years and set up
Speaker 4: the next guy with the solid foundation.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: I think that's great. I think it's a great hire.
Speaker 2: And when the Bears were looking at him, I thought,
Speaker 2: if you said I could have Pete Carroll or Ben Johnson,
Speaker 2: I said I would take Pete Carroll. I've seen him
Speaker 2: do this. I don't know if Ben can do it.
Speaker 2: I know that everybody talks glowingly about it. I want
Speaker 2: somebody who was a proven commoditing and I don't know
Speaker 2: if there is a downside. He's got the energy of
Speaker 2: a forty two year old. Thirty two year old, that
Speaker 2: won't be an issue. Yes, Marv, is.
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll hall of Famer?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, well the football Hall of Fame if I'm combining
Speaker 2: USC with Seattle, but this is about the Pro Football
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. So I don't know. If he had
Speaker 2: won the other Super Bowl, then probably Yeah.
Speaker 9: Paulin the Raiders weight room in the morning, there's Brady
Speaker 9: over there in one corner, Pete Carroll in the other.
Speaker 9: Using the band's possible poll question, who looks younger for
Speaker 9: their age? Pete Carroll, Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: I don't think Pete's trying is hard to look younger as.
Speaker 3: Tom is doing it more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, naturally, yeah, organically Pete. Organically, Pete looks good.
Speaker 3: He looks good.
Speaker 2: I'll be chewing that gum on the sidelines. Well, we'll
Speaker 2: talk to booger McFarlane top of the or see what
Speaker 2: he thinks of this. Michael and Oregon. I, Mike, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 3: Hey, dplw's going good?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 16: I have a little something for you. So my uh,
Speaker 16: my dad was a huge fan of yours, and he
Speaker 16: was actually deaf and always wanted to talk to you,
Speaker 16: but obviously couldn't. If you guys could give me about
Speaker 16: ten minutes of a moment of silence, I love to
Speaker 16: give you a little sign language to say that he
Speaker 16: loves you and I appreciate what you did.
Speaker 3: Well, Thank you, Michael, thank you anything else?
Speaker 7: Michael?
Speaker 3: Oh that was it? Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I didn't know if you were doing sign language,
Speaker 2: but I can't see you, so I didn't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe we'll have him zoom then he could do the
Speaker 2: sign language. Yes Hunt.
Speaker 11: I think he said a ten minute moment of sage
Speaker 11: would have been very difficult for a talk show to
Speaker 11: go that long.
Speaker 3: That would be that would be yes Bally.
Speaker 9: Back in the day, Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh didn't
Speaker 9: get along too well back in the college days. Now
Speaker 9: they're back in the same conference.
Speaker 2: So read Harball, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, how about that?
Speaker 2: You got Hall of Famers in there. Dang, that's impressive.
Speaker 2: Uh Phil and Iowa, Hi Phil, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 7: What up?
Speaker 11: VP?
Speaker 12: I fix and a sauce one thirty two with the
Speaker 12: Spirit of the Lord blessing today's show.
Speaker 2: I actually have a small.
Speaker 12: Small prayer for Buddha and everybody rooting against Kansas City
Speaker 12: that it'll help them get through the fifty to fifty
Speaker 12: calls that Kansas City gets. Something tells me, a small
Speaker 12: portion of your audience already heard this.
Speaker 3: In rehab, but it goes.
Speaker 12: God, grant me the serenity to accept the things that
Speaker 12: I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can,
Speaker 12: the wisdom to know the difference, and when Pat mahomes
Speaker 12: H's Travis Kelcey for a twenty seven yard touchdown bomb.
Speaker 12: Just remember that a wise man once said, you can't
Speaker 12: stop him, You can only hope to contain him.
Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you for all Thank you, Phil. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we opened up the show talking religion. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure why we're talking church. It was my Oh that's right,
Speaker 2: Marvin left his microphone open, and it reminded me like
Speaker 2: Black churches, where you kind of follow along with the
Speaker 2: sermon and then you're like.
Speaker 5: You're very joyous, Yeah, what God has done for you
Speaker 5: in your life.
Speaker 3: But if you go into a Catholic church, then we're
Speaker 3: kind of quiet.
Speaker 5: That's the most noise I heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll play the most must win game of the
Speaker 2: weekend coming on, and Ryan Day will join us coming
Speaker 2: up in about thirty minutes from now, and Booger McFarlane's
Speaker 2: Talk of the hour. The big news there, Pete Carroll
Speaker 2: back in the end NFL head coach of the Raiders.
Speaker 2: I love it. Now they just need a quarterback there.
Speaker 2: How about Pete Carroll Russell Wilson reunited? How Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to Booker. Update the poll results.
Speaker 8: See come on, Russ, come on, lad, you got anything
Speaker 8: from Yeah, due, I'm just checking out.
Speaker 3: And which Super Bowl matchup are you rooting for? Bill's v.
Speaker 4: Commanders right now? Has fifty seven percent of that vote. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is wishful prediction, That's what it is. Just people
Speaker 4: are hoping, they're really hoping the Bills win.
Speaker 3: And then the.
Speaker 2: Commanders be a great, great fun story that continues to roll.
Speaker 2: Final hour on the way on this Meet Friday. Glad
Speaker 2: you're part of the program. The Minister of Humor, Fritzie
Speaker 2: Seat and Marv Paully yours truly in the b RGS.
Speaker 3: Back after this