WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Rick Stroud, Clay Matthews

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dan Patrick Show. All right, we'll update the

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<v Speaker 2>poll results, and we got a situation here with Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 2>in Tampa. Does Jacksonville finally have their coach? And exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. We'll retrace the last forty eight hours with

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Stroud coming up here in a moment. Clay Matthews

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<v Speaker 2>will join us, coming up a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 2>this hour. Booger McFarlane next hour, and Ohio State head

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<v Speaker 2>coach Bryan Day will stop by as well. The points

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<v Speaker 2>spread stay the same, the Eagles getting six giving six

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<v Speaker 2>to the Commanders, and the Bills are getting one and

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<v Speaker 2>a half against the Chiefs. Whether for both cities should

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<v Speaker 2>be around the same, no snow acted temperatures in the thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously with the Chiefs game, it'll get a little colder

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<v Speaker 2>than that as the evening progresses. That kickoff is at

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<v Speaker 2>six thirty The Commanders and the Eagles at three Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>dot com twitter handle at DP show pull question for

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<v Speaker 2>hour two and recap hour one if you can, Seaton.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, our one we put up there. This one was

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<v Speaker 4>from Marvin the Super Bowl matchup.

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<v Speaker 3>You're rooting for?

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<v Speaker 4>Your options are Bill's Eagles, Bills, Commanders Chiefs, Commander's Chiefs Eagles.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to guess who people are rooting for? Commander's Bills.

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<v Speaker 4>Commander's Bills right now has fifty seven percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You want to know the one that they're least

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to, Chiefs Eagle, Chiefs Eagles. Yeah, what the heck?

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<v Speaker 3>Why am I surprised by that? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are two great teams, they are, but we want

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<v Speaker 2>something fresh.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them has a chance to go to win

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<v Speaker 3>three in a row.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you our most must win game of the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend coming up a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 4>We switch Just to be clear that they've all been

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<v Speaker 4>must win games for several weeks now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the most most must must win win even

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<v Speaker 2>more than last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>There there are coaches or players that this is the

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<v Speaker 2>most must win game of the weekend. It may not

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<v Speaker 2>be the team, it may be the person. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have that for you coming up, Rick Stroud. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think we'd ever talked to Rick Stroud again when Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Brady left he retired, And here he is Rick Stroud,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bucks writer, NFL beat writer for the Tampa Bay Times,

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what happened over the last forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 2>with the all of a sudden object of desire.

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<v Speaker 3>Liam Cohen, Dan.

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<v Speaker 6>We're the land of runaway brides man. Bill Parcells did

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<v Speaker 6>it twice. Chick Kelly did it once. So keep your

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<v Speaker 6>receipt on the crystal stemware around here. But you know, look,

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<v Speaker 6>Liam Cohen did a great job last year in his

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<v Speaker 6>first season with the Bucks on offense obviously, and so

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't want to leave lose him. And they knew

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<v Speaker 6>that he was had one interview with Jacksonville. Virtually he

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<v Speaker 6>was supposed to go up there on Wednesday. Bucks got

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<v Speaker 6>him to agree to a really a record contract, one

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<v Speaker 6>of the highest paid coordinators in football, something like four

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<v Speaker 6>and a half million dollars a year, but it was

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<v Speaker 6>contingent on him not going back to Jacksonville, and they

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<v Speaker 6>thought he was going to come in. There was some

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<v Speaker 6>talk about a zoom call with him and all this.

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<v Speaker 6>He didn't come in on Wednesday, and they didn't hear

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<v Speaker 6>from him from about two thirty on Wednesday till about

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<v Speaker 6>five o'clock on Thursday. He was zero dark thirty on him,

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<v Speaker 6>so I think they got a little suspicious. And finally

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<v Speaker 6>he did call Todd Bowles around five o'clock on Thursday

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<v Speaker 6>to let him know that his kid was in fact sick.

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<v Speaker 6>He had been with him sometime that day. But oh,

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<v Speaker 6>by the way, I'm going to look back into the

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<v Speaker 6>Jacksonville situation, when in fact, I think that deal was

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<v Speaker 6>all but done. So they were they were pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 6>upset in Tampa Bay, as you can imagine, and now

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<v Speaker 6>they need.

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<v Speaker 7>A new coordinator.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that people have brought up his son went

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital, but in the court, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>just looks messy. Yeah that he maybe his son, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously has something going through something. His wife just posted

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<v Speaker 2>something an hour ago. But you still got on a

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<v Speaker 2>plane and went to Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct, Absolutely he did, he didn't say he did not

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<v Speaker 6>tell the Bucks he was there. You know, I've talked

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<v Speaker 6>to many of those guys over there. They're just very upset.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just not the way you do business. You didn't

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<v Speaker 6>have to sign the contract per se, and nothing was

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<v Speaker 6>going to, you know, really prevent you from interviewing for

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<v Speaker 6>a head coaching job. You can't block a guy to

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<v Speaker 6>do that. But you know, the whole uh interpersonal thing

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<v Speaker 6>that that you know, just kind of flying up there

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<v Speaker 6>without telling people he was gone and then not really

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<v Speaker 6>being you know, fortright. When he did tell Todd Bowles that,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, he's kind of looking back into him it

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<v Speaker 6>at that point, I think he'd already been to Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 6>So the timeline is bad. You know, it's like a

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<v Speaker 6>few good Bucks and we're trying to see check the

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<v Speaker 6>tower logs and see, you know, when he left and

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<v Speaker 6>all that stuff. It's just it's just a mess. And

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<v Speaker 6>in the bottom line is the Bucks will now have

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<v Speaker 6>their fourth offensive coordinator in his many years and for

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<v Speaker 6>Baker Mayfield it might be eight. I'm not sure I've

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<v Speaker 6>lost count, but so it affects them obviously next season.

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<v Speaker 3>What's Jacksonville getting.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they're getting a guy that they better anchor down

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<v Speaker 6>because he's only you know, he's been to like five

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<v Speaker 6>different places in the last five years. But he's a

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<v Speaker 6>hell of a play caller, he really is. He did

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<v Speaker 6>a nice job schematically. You know, he runs an offense

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<v Speaker 6>that was similar to what he did in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 6>with Sean McVay. He never called place till he got

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<v Speaker 6>to Tampa in the NFL. But he's a great teacher.

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<v Speaker 6>And these young players, you saw them get better each week.

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<v Speaker 6>Bucky Irving, Jalen McMillan, guys that had to step in

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<v Speaker 6>when they lost Mike Evans, when they lost Chris Godwin

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<v Speaker 6>for the season, and you know, he just he gives

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<v Speaker 6>the quarterback answers, you know, and talking to Baker Mayfield.

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<v Speaker 6>He had some success with Dave Canalis the year before.

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<v Speaker 6>He called him an optimist bully, which is what, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>sort of what he needed, right. But from a schematic

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<v Speaker 6>standpoint and play calling, Liam was at a different level.

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<v Speaker 6>He could go to the line of scrimmage, get him

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<v Speaker 6>out of bad place. And you saw what Baker did right,

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<v Speaker 6>forty one touchdowns, forty five hundred yards, seventy one percent.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, he was he was.

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<v Speaker 6>Lights out except for too many interceptions. But you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I just think that they're going to miss his ability

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<v Speaker 6>to teach and develop and really, you know, the schematics

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<v Speaker 6>were so good for this football team.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he a head coach though?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, you know, And and the thing about

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<v Speaker 6>that is as great as he was as an offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, that's a different job. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>there's gonna be five things a day that you're not

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<v Speaker 6>prepared to have to deal with, you know, anything from

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<v Speaker 6>you know, your girlfriend broke up with you, your mom sick,

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<v Speaker 6>whatever it is, and so that's going to take away

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<v Speaker 6>from his game planning. I assume he's going to continue

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<v Speaker 6>to try to call plays. But if you've got Trevor

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<v Speaker 6>Lawrence and you're trying to you know, turn him around,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I think that he'll he'll find a way

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<v Speaker 6>to protect him. If they could add some players on

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<v Speaker 6>the offensive line, get a run game going, he's going

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<v Speaker 6>to do great things offensively. But you know, that's that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's the job. The job is much different. You're addressing

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<v Speaker 6>the entire team, You're setting the tone for the franchise.

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<v Speaker 6>And from what I understand, Dan, he's going to have

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<v Speaker 6>control over who they bring in there to to help

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<v Speaker 6>him with personnel. So this is not just the head

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<v Speaker 6>coaching job, but I think in many ways he's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be more involved in a lot of the player

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<v Speaker 6>acquisitions and things like that. So it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 6>big lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you say, look, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>come in under Trent Bulkey, I get it. So you

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<v Speaker 2>go back, they give you this extension. Then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden they fired Trent Maulke. Why can't you just

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<v Speaker 2>say to Tampa, look, things have changed here. They're letting

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<v Speaker 2>me have total autonomy here. I'd be crazy not to pass,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to pass up this opportunity. What would the

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<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers have rescinded their offer, Like, would they have moved

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<v Speaker 2>on from him?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know that they would have. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 6>think they would have hung in there and let him

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<v Speaker 6>do what he wanted to do. You know, the offer

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<v Speaker 6>was contingent on him not taking the second interview. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, possession is the biggest thing here, right,

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<v Speaker 6>don't let the guy out of the building. And so

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<v Speaker 6>that was the Bucks intent where it like, we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to make you the highest paid offensive coordinator, but you

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<v Speaker 6>can't take that second interview. So the minute he decided

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<v Speaker 6>to do that, he kind of avoided what was going

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<v Speaker 6>to be his new contract, which he never signed. So

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it was just it was just a game

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<v Speaker 6>of subterfuge. It just it didn't make sense that you

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<v Speaker 6>would kind of sneak around like this. I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>what most people are upset about in the organization, and

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<v Speaker 6>believe me, they're pretty upset about it, but they'll get over.

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<v Speaker 6>It's going to make those joint practices with the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 6>really entertaining next next year, next summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Rick is always great to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Good to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Rick Strown, bucking NFL beat writer for Tampa Bay Times,

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<v Speaker 2>co author of The Players Coach with Tom Moore, from Bradshaw, Manning,

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<v Speaker 2>Brady and Beyond, host of Sports Day Tampa Bay podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, a couple of phone calls in here, got

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<v Speaker 2>our poll question for hour two Seaton.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we had the one.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know if we were going to go back

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<v Speaker 4>to figuring out unlikable teams that had become likable.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, because right Now you kind of have.

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<v Speaker 4>The Eagles in there, who, based on our poll results,

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<v Speaker 4>seem unlikable.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't really know why, though it might be

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<v Speaker 3>their fans.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, no offense, Maybe some may Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Are the LA Dodgers entering that category or in that

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<v Speaker 9>category with how they are overspending in comparison to the

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<v Speaker 9>rest of baseball? The Yankees had that generation ago that's cooled,

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<v Speaker 9>But the Dodgers feel like they're entering that Geez, these

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<v Speaker 9>guys won't give anyone else a chance category?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you care if people don't like you? If I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a Dodger fan, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like you have to embrace this like Yankee fans

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<v Speaker 2>did in a previous generation.

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<v Speaker 3>There are dynasties where you just say, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not going to like us, deal with it, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that the Chiefs aren't apologizing for anything, Like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>Us, So did the Patriots apologize? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Now you might say, are the Dodgers ruining baseball? Now

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bigger topic. But that's a topic really for

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<v Speaker 2>the commissioner. That's a topic for these owners of what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sport do you want to run?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can spend all this money, you can defer money.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got all these billions of billions of dollars with

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<v Speaker 2>the ownership group there, you got a pipeline to players

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<v Speaker 2>in Japan. I mean, they're taking advantage of everything that

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<v Speaker 2>they have, all of their assets.

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<v Speaker 3>But why wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I may not like it because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see these other you know, like I'd like for Paul's

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<v Speaker 2>schemes to maybe pitch in a playoff, Gamers or the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Reds, you know, to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the postseason. You know, to see Dela Cruz

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<v Speaker 2>on a big stage. I would like to see that,

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<v Speaker 2>But the odds are will see them on a big

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<v Speaker 2>stage in another uniform. I'd like to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>see teams have that opportunity. I mean, the NFL goes

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<v Speaker 2>out of its way to make sure you have parody.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying their best. You have salary caps, They change

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule. If you finish in first, your schedule's tougher.

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<v Speaker 2>If you finish in last, it's easier. They go out

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<v Speaker 2>of their way to keep the fan bases engaged. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only thing I worry about because the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>are the Dodgers over under for next season. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the It might be the highest over under win total

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<v Speaker 2>in recent history.

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<v Speaker 10>Arbon one hundred and eight and a half Paul one

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<v Speaker 10>oh two and a half, ton won eleven and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Seaton dang eleven?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh Paul, you said one O two and a half?

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<v Speaker 4>Yuh one O three and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloop Yes, one O three and a half. And according

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<v Speaker 2>to UH DraftKings sports book history, that's the highest over

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<v Speaker 2>under total for a team.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, poet, So the Dodgers are frustrating, but they're not

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<v Speaker 9>dislikable because they're players. Everyone loves Otani, he's transfixing, he's fun,

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<v Speaker 9>Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts. There's not dislikable people on their roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Roberts their manager, right, love their uniforms gorgeous?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, don So when do they.

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<v Speaker 11>Become as likable as they may be the new evil empire?

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<v Speaker 11>Or are they already there? And the Yankees are in

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<v Speaker 11>the rearview mirror in the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're a likable empire, like a dictator ish Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't know if you dis I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>you may dislike the method to becoming an empire.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean they bought those rings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, But the same with the Yankees, like go

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<v Speaker 2>Yankees wore that a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they were that one a lot.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah yeah, Mark, can we stop with the I know

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<v Speaker 10>see it was making a joke buying those rings. No

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<v Speaker 10>one plays for free, like you get you get what

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<v Speaker 10>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So nobody plays place for free.

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<v Speaker 5>I checked that he's right?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that okay?

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<v Speaker 10>Like when somebody says, oh, they bought those rings, I

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<v Speaker 10>mean I would, but the Union won't let me.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just got to take this money.

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<v Speaker 5>Like what does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 12>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>It means you spent more than everybody.

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<v Speaker 10>Else, so stupid, go ahead, But they did, but you're

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<v Speaker 10>supposed to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well not everybody has the money.

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<v Speaker 5>Make more money at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have a war chest of over thirty billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars I think. And if you can say to Otani,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you defer all of this money?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean how much does he need? And then you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say that to somebody else and somebody else, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're all in it together. You got a chance to win,

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<v Speaker 2>You got to play. You can play in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just taking advantage of what is in front of them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not changing loopholes here. Now you might say the

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<v Speaker 2>deferred money might be, but still that's business strategy. When

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<v Speaker 2>the Yankees were spending more money than everybody else, they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing it, and they were making money.

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<v Speaker 3>From the Yes network.

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<v Speaker 2>They did something nobody else, and then everybody else tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get their own network. The Yankees did a wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>job with that, and whether you liked it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>it was still musty TV and they embraced being the

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<v Speaker 2>evil Empire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes time.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's legal, it's legal.

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<v Speaker 11>It's like when a quarterback pretends to slide but then

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<v Speaker 11>they reach for that extra yard and they're not quite

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<v Speaker 11>that a bounce yet. Certain quarterbacks in the AFT title.

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<v Speaker 3>No I got it. I'm not sure what that has

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<v Speaker 3>to do with God.

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<v Speaker 9>It's very cryptic, Todd, who are you referencing?

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<v Speaker 3>Anything that's legal is legal?

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<v Speaker 11>You're allowed to do this, even though the current president

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<v Speaker 11>of the United States has admitted to certain tax loopholes.

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<v Speaker 11>And people do whatever they can do as long as

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<v Speaker 11>it's within the law.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened? Where are we going?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm whether it's money or politics or anything whatever. If

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<v Speaker 11>something is legal, take it all the way. You could

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<v Speaker 11>take it all the way to the line, whether you

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<v Speaker 11>are quarterback looking for that extra yard or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 11>or you could spend your allowed to spend one hundred

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<v Speaker 11>billion dollars on your team, then you go do it

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<v Speaker 11>if you haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like a guy walk out of a store and

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<v Speaker 9>not getting charged for dishes and plates exactly going back.

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<v Speaker 9>It's not cheating or stealing, but it's crossed.

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<v Speaker 3>That was stealing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that wasn't exactly a loophole that took advantage. That

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<v Speaker 4>was just straight up we forgot to pay for this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You and your wife and then you you know, screeched

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<v Speaker 4>out of there.

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<v Speaker 11>For a moment, we considered going back, and then we

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<v Speaker 11>rationalize there at least I did by these plates are

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<v Speaker 11>probably so overpriced.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, we're not getting any bar me.

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<v Speaker 3>You broke the rules. He broke the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically take them back and steal it. They gave it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'd take a break. I just looked over and

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<v Speaker 2>on my monitor, I see Clay Matthews there.

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<v Speaker 11>I didn't grab the box and run out of the store,

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<v Speaker 11>and all the lights went on and there was alarms

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<v Speaker 11>going off.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Clay Matthews looks like he's about thirty three, frustrating, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let me take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>The most must win game of the weekend, I have

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<v Speaker 2>that for you coming up as well. Ryan Day, Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>state head coach in an hour from now. The Jags

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<v Speaker 2>they lost their possible head coach, then they got their

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, and Liam Cohen going to the Jacksonville Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>after saying he wasn't going to go there, then went

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<v Speaker 2>back to Tampa. Then they fired the GM Trent Bulke,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he went back to Jacksonville, and now I

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<v Speaker 2>guess he's agreed in principle to be their new head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>So that leaves Cowboys, Raiders, and the Saints. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if anybody's looking for somebody who's still in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>But that might be the case, except for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>might be hiring Brian Schottenheimer, although I guess they reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll was Clay Matthews coach

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<v Speaker 2>at US City. In fact, Pete Carroll said, the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>mistake at SC was not starting you until your fourth

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<v Speaker 2>game of your senior year.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 7>That's right?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did it take that.

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<v Speaker 2>Long for him to realize what he had in you?

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<v Speaker 15>They were they we at the time had you know,

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<v Speaker 15>littered with five star recruits, blue chip ap athletes. In fact,

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<v Speaker 15>my senior year, Everson Griffin came in and Pete had

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<v Speaker 15>named him or he had said that Everson could be

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<v Speaker 15>playing in the NFL as a freshman, so he was

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<v Speaker 15>playing in front of me. So I think it was

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<v Speaker 15>just you don't see a walk on go from being

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<v Speaker 15>a walk on to starting for the number one ranked

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<v Speaker 15>defense in the country.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think that was the ultimate hang up.

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<v Speaker 15>And it took a loss to Oregon State on Thursday

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<v Speaker 15>night for me to actually break the lineup. And if

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<v Speaker 15>we had never lost, that was our only loss of

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<v Speaker 15>the season. Who knows what the history books you know,

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<v Speaker 15>who knows what would have happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you walk on at USD?

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<v Speaker 7>I had no offers. I had no offers.

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<v Speaker 15>I lied to a few people when I got to

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<v Speaker 15>SC because I wanted to fit in. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 15>you know where did you have offers to class? And

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<v Speaker 15>I picked some lowly packed ten schools. I said, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 15>Arizona State. Even I even ventured to say Idaho, but

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<v Speaker 15>I didn't have any.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when did you realize you could play at a

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<v Speaker 3>high level?

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<v Speaker 15>It was probably my third year there. So my red

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<v Speaker 15>shirt sophomore year, I started getting on some special teams

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<v Speaker 15>and making some plays kickoff, punt, just kind of had

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<v Speaker 15>a knack for it and ended up winning Special Teams

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<v Speaker 15>Player of the Year that year as well as the

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<v Speaker 15>following two years. So after that year, I felt like

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<v Speaker 15>I could play. But you know, to say that I

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<v Speaker 15>would have been a first round draft pick, I would

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<v Speaker 15>have been lying to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a six time pro bowler and the Packers' all

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<v Speaker 2>time sack leader.

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<v Speaker 3>Has your name been mentioned for a Hall of Fame?

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<v Speaker 7>I'd like to think so.

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<v Speaker 15>So this year I was I was shocked when my

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<v Speaker 15>name wasn't one of the one hundred and seventy guys

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<v Speaker 15>or however that works. And I had my agent look

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<v Speaker 15>into it because I thought I at least deserved the

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<v Speaker 15>opportunity to be within that group of gentlemen. And apparently

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<v Speaker 15>you have to have somebody nominate you.

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<v Speaker 7>And the person who.

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<v Speaker 15>Was the packers, you know, who heads the packers, wasn't

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<v Speaker 15>aware that my five years since retiring was up, so

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<v Speaker 15>I just got skipped over.

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<v Speaker 7>And he is sure.

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<v Speaker 15>He assured my representatives that next year that wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 15>an issue. But that leads to another conversation, which is,

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<v Speaker 15>you know the process of nominating people. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 15>it's let's just say, cooler heads, you know, prevail. Just

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<v Speaker 15>because I was a little I was a little hot

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<v Speaker 15>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's tricky though, because it should be. If somebody

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<v Speaker 2>says your name and then you go, yeah, hall of famer.

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<v Speaker 2>But now we see it where you're not a Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Famer now, but in four years you might be

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<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Famer. You didn't play any more games.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I don't know how that worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Sterling Sharp. I think Sterling Sharp's a Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he if we're going to put Terrell Davis

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<v Speaker 2>in injury shortened career or Gail. I mean, he was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>He won the Triple Crown. I think maybe the first

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<v Speaker 2>guy to win the receiving triple Crown.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Dan, we went through this with my dad. As

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<v Speaker 7>a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 15>So my dad nineteen year career, you know, four time

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<v Speaker 15>Pro bowler, just most games.

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<v Speaker 7>Played by a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 15>I might have the most tackles by a linebacker up

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<v Speaker 15>there with seou But he played for a small market

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<v Speaker 15>in Cleveland for sixteen years and never won a championship.

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<v Speaker 15>And wasn't you know, big on promoting himself and ultimately

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<v Speaker 15>for the first twenty four years he would make you know,

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<v Speaker 15>the top seventy five, top twenty five. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 15>until the last couple of years when my sister really

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<v Speaker 15>I got to give her credits. He really started campaigning, politicking.

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<v Speaker 15>Where the last year, the twenty fifth year, my father

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<v Speaker 15>finished sixth. The voters came out, you know, they told

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<v Speaker 15>her confident, like hey, he was just he was in

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<v Speaker 15>that top ten but finished six So, like you had said,

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<v Speaker 15>he didn't play anymore games. He didn't do anything different

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<v Speaker 15>within those twenty five years. Since retiring in ninety six.

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<v Speaker 15>Yet somehow he was, you know, a couple of votes

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<v Speaker 15>away from being enshrined into the you know, the Hall

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<v Speaker 15>of Fame, but he didn't for you know, the twenty

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<v Speaker 15>years before that. It's it's an odd process, but I

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<v Speaker 15>do understand what you're saying. There's guys who are you know,

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<v Speaker 15>sure doubt or excuse me, no doubt, surefire Hall of famers,

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<v Speaker 15>and then there's those who you know, kind of have

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<v Speaker 15>to wait a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>What did it break your dad's heart? Now?

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<v Speaker 15>He's uh, he's always said that he's at peace with

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<v Speaker 15>his career, and he means that, you know. And fortunately

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<v Speaker 15>I got to model, you know, my game after his.

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<v Speaker 15>And so when I got out of the game, we

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<v Speaker 15>none of us ever, you know, we're always ushered out,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, never on our own terms, very rarely.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I think that has allowed.

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<v Speaker 15>Not only myself not to make this about myself, but

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<v Speaker 15>just watching him and how he left the game so

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<v Speaker 15>to speak, you know, conduct himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Really talking to Clay Matthews, super Bowl champ with the Packers,

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 2>six time Pro bowler joining us on behalf of Colt.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that here in a moment. Last time

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<v Speaker 2>you talked to Aaron Rodgers was when.

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<v Speaker 7>Well he text every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 15>I want to say it was it was the latter

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<v Speaker 15>part of uh this season, but it was nothing, nothing

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<v Speaker 15>more than you know, inside jokes and humor.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure he needed that at that point in this season.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a close relationship.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean it's it's close, but I mean I'm not

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<v Speaker 15>I'm not gonna ask him in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 15>season or the latter parts of the season, like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 15>what are you thinking for next year? Are you gonna

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<v Speaker 15>stick with the Jets? You going to the Vikings? I mean, what,

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<v Speaker 15>you know what's going on here? So I'm sure I'll

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<v Speaker 15>find out like everybody else. But you know, as we know,

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<v Speaker 15>he's an enigma.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he that way? Though? In Green Bay? We just

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't put on, you know, a national stage for us.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, when you say was he that way? What are

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<v Speaker 7>you what are you referring to in enigma? Yeah? No,

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 7>he was.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, different in difference, not I don't mean that in

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<v Speaker 15>negative connotation. He's always been different. I've always said, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>you you compare him to some of these other quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 7>The uh, these the I'm gonna call them the raw

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<v Speaker 7>raw guys. And I don't mean that in a negative.

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<v Speaker 15>Way, but you know leaders of team who you know,

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<v Speaker 15>bring the huddle together. Drew Breeses, the Peyton Mannings. I

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<v Speaker 15>always compared him growing up in La to Kobe. You know,

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<v Speaker 15>if you wanted to be great and you wanted to

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<v Speaker 15>be better, you would gravitate towards him and and he would.

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<v Speaker 7>Bring you in.

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<v Speaker 15>And that's why you saw the relationships he had with

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<v Speaker 15>Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Greg Jennings. You know, they they

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<v Speaker 15>were elite at the time, and he was able to

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<v Speaker 15>form that chemistry because those guys had such a strong bond.

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<v Speaker 3>So he led by example.

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<v Speaker 15>He led by absolutely, He led by example. I mean

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 15>practice was so competitive, so much fun. I mean he

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 15>was trying to go at us. It wasn't this you know,

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<v Speaker 15>lovey dovey, you know, hey, you'll get him in the game.

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<v Speaker 15>It was we were going after each other.

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<v Speaker 3>But Kobe.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a fear factor there, Like Kobe wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>crush you even if you were his teammate, like.

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<v Speaker 3>You, I want you to be great? Yeah, was Rogers

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<v Speaker 3>like that?

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, it's a little different when you're auditioned out

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<v Speaker 15>ball like you know, like Aaron was to his receivers.

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<v Speaker 15>But yeah, I think you know when is enough enough?

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<v Speaker 15>It's four MVPs enough. I'm sure he wonted five. And

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<v Speaker 15>that's why I truly make that comparison to him, because

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<v Speaker 15>I think he wants to crush you. Now, obviously we're

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<v Speaker 15>on the same team, but in practice that's no different.

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<v Speaker 15>And I'm sure you know, watching him this year, you

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<v Speaker 15>see those glimpses of you know, what he has, And

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know what that means moving forward. I thought

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<v Speaker 15>it was I thought for me it was pretty telling

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<v Speaker 15>when he walked off the field with Davante with his

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<v Speaker 15>arm around him, and we remember when he walked off

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<v Speaker 15>the field with Randall Cobb in Green Bay with that

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<v Speaker 15>meant So we'll see if I'm reading into it too

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<v Speaker 15>much just being a fanboy, or what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But I love it. Do you think he's gonna play

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<v Speaker 3>one more year?

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<v Speaker 7>I think he should play one more year? Do I

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<v Speaker 7>think he will? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you do if Mahomes did what he does

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<v Speaker 2>with the going to the sidelines or I'm gonna slide.

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<v Speaker 3>I might slide of sliding, so you hit them?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, where I did hit people in twenty eighteen, that's

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<v Speaker 15>when the narrative change. We're talking about Aaron Rodgers. It

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 15>wasn't until Anthony Barr broke his collarbone, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 15>in seventeen maybe sixteen, where the shift changed and you

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<v Speaker 15>weren't allowed to hit the quarterback anymore. And you know,

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 15>some would argue that's a good thing for the sport,

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<v Speaker 15>you know, keeping the Mahomes and the Josh Allens and

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<v Speaker 15>Lamar Jackson's, but they've taken full advantage of it, and

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<v Speaker 15>it's it's hard to man, it's hard to watch, you know,

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<v Speaker 15>these quarterback especially with the flopping too. It's guys making

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<v Speaker 15>fifty sixty million dollars getting every call, you know, having

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 15>so much success, and they're still they're dancing around the sideline,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 15>they're sliding when they you know, become a runner. So

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<v Speaker 15>it is hard to watch. And I hope there's a

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<v Speaker 15>you know, an onus on changing that next year as.

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<v Speaker 3>Far as okay, what would you do, what would you

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<v Speaker 3>do the rev you know, create the rule.

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<v Speaker 15>The rule is the refs need to stop calling those plays.

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<v Speaker 15>Until the quarterbacks learned that it's you're going to get hit.

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<v Speaker 15>It's part of the game. It's a tough game. I

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<v Speaker 15>mean the type of hits I used to deliver on

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<v Speaker 15>quarterbacks first eight nine years in my career versus the

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<v Speaker 15>last two. That's how the game should be played. You're

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 15>allowed one step, you give them a hit. If the

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 15>quarterback gets the ball late, you got to let him know.

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<v Speaker 15>It's no different than guys coming across the middle. You

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 15>had dbs who put hits, but now there's defensive defenseless

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 15>receivers and you see quarterbacks. You saw that Josh Allen pass.

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<v Speaker 15>I want to say in the I don't know if

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<v Speaker 15>it's the Wild Carter Divisional game where you know he

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 15>got his receiver or running back knocked out, it was

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<v Speaker 15>that's what's going to happen coming across the middle.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm old school in my thought. I know that

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<v Speaker 7>has to change.

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<v Speaker 15>I just think to answer your question, I think referees

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<v Speaker 15>need to keep, you know, the flags in their pocket

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 15>unless it's truly egregious. And that leads to a separate

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<v Speaker 15>conversation about referees.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever have a sack or a hit on

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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback where he felt bad.

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<v Speaker 7>Where I felt bad about it. Never never, although, no change.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry. I thought about that.

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<v Speaker 15>I didn't have a sack, but I hit Brian Hoyer

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<v Speaker 15>one time and I broke his arm. I broke his forearm,

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<v Speaker 15>and I met him years later, and I apologize. I

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 15>felt I never want to injure anybody. I know everybody

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 15>says that, but truly I felt bad about that.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 3>But how do you apologize if it's part of the game.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh, like, well, I didn't apologize at the time, but

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 15>when you see him face to face and then and

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 15>then you kind of remove the shield, the mask, so

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<v Speaker 15>to speak, and there's a you know, some humility and

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 15>a human element to it. But no, I didn't apologize

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.719
<v Speaker 15>during the game. It wasn't like, yeah, I got him

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 15>out of the game. But you know, you never want

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 15>to hurt anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep saying that somebody's going to hit Mahomes and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to take the penalty, they'll take the fund,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>and like, at some point that's going to happen here.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't like saying that, but the reality

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>is somebody will eventually say this has to stop.

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<v Speaker 15>I you're right, Dan, this might I don't even know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>so I'm the dating on whether and I tell you

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 15>this but in the the two but I will two

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 15>thousand and fourteen NFC Championship game against Seattle, Russell Wilson

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 15>threw an interception and this was right around the time

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<v Speaker 15>they were you know, these crackback hits and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 15>I tried. I tried to give him everything I had

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 15>and fortunately stuck it out. That's when he drank that

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 15>bubbly water that got rid of whatever head injury he had.

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 15>But you're right, that is that is what's gonna happen.

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 3>So you went out of your way. You were you

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 3>were trying to take his head off.

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 15>I didn't go out of my way to go get him.

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 15>You'll see he was naturally in the way. He was

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 15>trying to make the tackle, but I wasn't. I wasn't

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 15>going to because he was a quarterback. I wasn't gonna

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 15>put my hands up. I was trying to put a

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 15>hit on. That's what we're supposed to do.

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, why are you yelling at me?

0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 7>No, I'm you're right, I'm sorry. I'm just till I'm

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 7>taking this out on you.

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 15>But there's this narrative now that you're a dirty player

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 15>if you hit a quarterback, you know, just because the

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 15>rules have changed so much to protect them.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a tackling dummy at the house, So, like, kid,

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>do you need to hit somebody?

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 7>My kids?

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>My kid?

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I tackle them. I wrestle with them. We don't

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 15>hit them, we tackle them. We wrestled.

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>When's the last time you hit somebody?

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 15>Oh, I didn't get my workout in this morning, but

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 15>it's been a while. I help out with my five

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 15>year old flag football team. Hey, we won the championship

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 15>this year. Yeah, I want a championship.

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like it. Does he have a ponytail yet?

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 15>No, no ponytail. He's he's high and tight. He goes

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 15>to a private school, so they frown on that.

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 2>All right, tell me, but you if he wanted a ponytail,

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 2>you'd say all right.

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 15>In fact, I probably petitioned the school and say ponytails.

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:51.719
<v Speaker 15>Why Dan Patrick has me on?

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Dude, you look like you're like in your mid thirties.

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 7>It's that strong hairline.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 3>No, you look at you looked like you could play.

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<v Speaker 15>Well listen, I mean not to I felt like I

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<v Speaker 15>could still play after year eleven with the Rams. But

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<v Speaker 15>you know, this is a separate conversation. I was ready

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<v Speaker 15>to move on to be a dad. It was my

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<v Speaker 15>second you know, second chapter, third chot, whatever it was

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<v Speaker 15>in life. I was ready to be a dad, but

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<v Speaker 15>I felt like I could still play. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 15>right now, but I appreciate the compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to talk to you again. I hope you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>well and we'll work on that Hall of Fame stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, I appreciate it, Dan, thanks for having me on

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<v Speaker 7>always plead.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Bun. We'll take a break. Oh no, can't

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<v Speaker 3>take a break.

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<v Speaker 9>One point emergency fill in the blanked in NFL news game.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to do this quickly. Okay. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 9>From Adam Schefter sources, the Raiders and Blank are aiming

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<v Speaker 9>to work out a deal to make him the next

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<v Speaker 9>head coach the Raiders and blank.

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Carroll. He Carol's correct, what day?

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<v Speaker 12>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me take a break?

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<v Speaker 2>I should bring back I should bring back Clay Matthews

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<v Speaker 2>to asking Pete Carroll going to the Raiders?

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<v Speaker 2>That was Pete Carroll and the ra are in conversations

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<v Speaker 2>about Pete taking over as the head coach of the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there an update, Polly Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Multiple reports from multiple insiders, rap sheet Pealasaro schefter, Pete

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<v Speaker 9>Carroll and the Raiders now have reached an agreement on

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<v Speaker 9>a three year deal with a fourth year option to

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<v Speaker 9>become the Raiders head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a proven commodity. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I note that people will say, well his age,

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, what kind of stability is that? The

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<v Speaker 2>NFL is year to year? That's the way I would

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<v Speaker 2>view I'm not looking at this. It's just like Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick at North Carolina. I don't think I'd sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and go in five years, he's still going to be

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<v Speaker 2>head coach at North Carolina. This is really good. Are

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders better today than they were yesterday? And the

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<v Speaker 2>answer is yes. Maybe they bring in Sam Darnold. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a USC reunion there with Pete and Sam. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Brady is gonna turn this thing around, or he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try because he's the one running the show. You bring

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<v Speaker 2>in Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Marv, Hey, you've talked about this before, you and PAULI.

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<v Speaker 10>Relevance is a big thing. This makes them relevant because

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<v Speaker 10>right before this they were in no man's land, which

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<v Speaker 10>is not where you want to be. They were like

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<v Speaker 10>on part with the Titans.

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<v Speaker 5>Almost.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I kind of feel like, yeah, more than anything,

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<v Speaker 4>it's stability. It's not somebody new, it's not somebody who

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't done this before. It's not somebody who's unproven. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a dude who knows exactly how to run an organization.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows exactly how to fix things, he knows exactly

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<v Speaker 4>how to get going in the right direction. Let's get

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<v Speaker 4>some stability for a couple of years and set up

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<v Speaker 4>the next guy with the solid foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's great. I think it's a great hire.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the Bears were looking at him, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>if you said I could have Pete Carroll or Ben Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>I said I would take Pete Carroll. I've seen him

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<v Speaker 2>do this. I don't know if Ben can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that everybody talks glowingly about it. I want

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who was a proven commoditing and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if there is a downside. He's got the energy of

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<v Speaker 2>a forty two year old. Thirty two year old, that

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<v Speaker 2>won't be an issue. Yes, Marv, is.

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<v Speaker 5>Pete Carroll hall of Famer?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well the football Hall of Fame if I'm combining

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<v Speaker 2>USC with Seattle, but this is about the Pro Football

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame. So I don't know. If he had

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<v Speaker 2>won the other Super Bowl, then probably Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Paulin the Raiders weight room in the morning, there's Brady

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<v Speaker 9>over there in one corner, Pete Carroll in the other.

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<v Speaker 9>Using the band's possible poll question, who looks younger for

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<v Speaker 9>their age? Pete Carroll, Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Pete's trying is hard to look younger as.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom is doing it more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, naturally, yeah, organically Pete. Organically, Pete looks good.

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<v Speaker 3>He looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be chewing that gum on the sidelines. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to booger McFarlane top of the or see what

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks of this. Michael and Oregon. I, Mike, what's

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<v Speaker 2>on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, dplw's going good?

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<v Speaker 7>Good?

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<v Speaker 16>I have a little something for you. So my uh,

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<v Speaker 16>my dad was a huge fan of yours, and he

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<v Speaker 16>was actually deaf and always wanted to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 16>but obviously couldn't. If you guys could give me about

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<v Speaker 16>ten minutes of a moment of silence, I love to

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<v Speaker 16>give you a little sign language to say that he

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<v Speaker 16>loves you and I appreciate what you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Thank you, Michael, thank you anything else?

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<v Speaker 7>Michael?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that was it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I didn't know if you were doing sign language,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't see you, so I didn't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll have him zoom then he could do the

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<v Speaker 2>sign language. Yes Hunt.

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<v Speaker 11>I think he said a ten minute moment of sage

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<v Speaker 11>would have been very difficult for a talk show to

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<v Speaker 11>go that long.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be that would be yes Bally.

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<v Speaker 9>Back in the day, Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh didn't

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<v Speaker 9>get along too well back in the college days. Now

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<v Speaker 9>they're back in the same conference.

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<v Speaker 2>So read Harball, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, how about that?

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<v Speaker 2>You got Hall of Famers in there. Dang, that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Phil and Iowa, Hi Phil, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey?

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<v Speaker 7>What up?

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<v Speaker 11>VP?

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<v Speaker 12>I fix and a sauce one thirty two with the

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<v Speaker 12>Spirit of the Lord blessing today's show.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have a small.

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<v Speaker 12>Small prayer for Buddha and everybody rooting against Kansas City

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<v Speaker 12>that it'll help them get through the fifty to fifty

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 12>calls that Kansas City gets. Something tells me, a small

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<v Speaker 12>portion of your audience already heard this.

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<v Speaker 3>In rehab, but it goes.

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<v Speaker 12>God, grant me the serenity to accept the things that

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<v Speaker 12>I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can,

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<v Speaker 12>the wisdom to know the difference, and when Pat mahomes

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<v Speaker 12>H's Travis Kelcey for a twenty seven yard touchdown bomb.

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<v Speaker 12>Just remember that a wise man once said, you can't

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<v Speaker 12>stop him, You can only hope to contain him.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well, thank you for all Thank you, Phil. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we opened up the show talking religion. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure why we're talking church. It was my Oh that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin left his microphone open, and it reminded me like

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<v Speaker 2>Black churches, where you kind of follow along with the

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<v Speaker 2>sermon and then you're like.

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<v Speaker 5>You're very joyous, Yeah, what God has done for you

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<v Speaker 5>in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you go into a Catholic church, then we're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the most noise I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll play the most must win game of the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend coming on, and Ryan Day will join us coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in about thirty minutes from now, and Booger McFarlane's

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<v Speaker 2>Talk of the hour. The big news there, Pete Carroll

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<v Speaker 2>back in the end NFL head coach of the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Now they just need a quarterback there.

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<v Speaker 2>How about Pete Carroll Russell Wilson reunited? How Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk to Booker. Update the poll results.

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<v Speaker 8>See come on, Russ, come on, lad, you got anything

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<v Speaker 8>from Yeah, due, I'm just checking out.

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<v Speaker 3>And which Super Bowl matchup are you rooting for? Bill's v.

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<v Speaker 4>Commanders right now? Has fifty seven percent of that vote. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this is wishful prediction, That's what it is. Just people

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 4>are hoping, they're really hoping the Bills win.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Commanders be a great, great fun story that continues to roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Final hour on the way on this Meet Friday. Glad

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<v Speaker 2>you're part of the program. The Minister of Humor, Fritzie

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<v Speaker 2>Seat and Marv Paully yours truly in the b RGS.

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<v Speaker 3>Back after this