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Speaker 1: and uh. We had a lot going on today because

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Speaker 1: friend of the show, John Schneider just extended his former

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Speaker 1: first round pick JSN to a massive, massive contract. The

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Speaker 1: implications and the ripple effects this will have on a

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Speaker 1: We have some other stories floating around Kelsey. You know,

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Speaker 1: some numbers came out. We have a player at Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: questions at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms?

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Speaker 1: Get your questions answered here on the show, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'll that'll be the show. We had. We had a

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Speaker 1: Sunday podcast. We will have maybe even do a little

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Speaker 1: golf podcast tomorrow. We're a couple of weeks away from

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Speaker 1: the Masters. Do some gambling. I was looking kep because

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Speaker 1: got the Sweet sixteen. We got a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: This is I like this time of year. I'm a

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Speaker 1: So you guys know the drill. If you listen on

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Speaker 1: checks that out out. Let's just dive right into the

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Speaker 1: breaking news, the JSN contract, and I think the key

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Speaker 1: Every GM says this. Every new coach in GM when

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Speaker 1: Of course, you want to draft players and then extend them.

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Speaker 1: That is the goal. And John Schneider has a history

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Speaker 1: we were, don't have salary caps. If I want to

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Speaker 1: Perty went in the seventh round. The last pick of

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Speaker 1: the draft was mister irrelevant. So when you're drafted on

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Speaker 1: the third day as Nuss Myers and Drew Allers and

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Speaker 1: Carson becksar a lot of times. And I was going

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Speaker 1: to these forty nine ers camps at the time, Brock

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Speaker 1: Perdy had to win, let me repeat, win the third

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Speaker 1: string job for the forty nine Ers had to win

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Speaker 1: the job, which he did. I forget the quarterback they had.

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Speaker 1: They had four quarterbacks coming into camp, Trey Lance, Jimmy Garoppolo, Perdy,

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Speaker 1: and one other guy. But the other guy they had

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Speaker 1: guaranteed a salary at a couple millions, and they either

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Speaker 1: cut him or traded him right before the end of

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Speaker 1: training camp, which kind of was a light into like

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Speaker 1: brock Perty's probably gonna make the team. And after he did.

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Speaker 1: I remember Trent Williams like a year ago, gave an

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Speaker 1: interview that was like I went up to Purdy before

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Speaker 1: week one and I said, I don't think you realize

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Speaker 1: how incredible of accomplishment what you just did was as

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Speaker 1: the last pick in the draft, when we already had

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Speaker 1: a bunch of quarterbacks on the roster, one guy being

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Speaker 1: the third overall pick, another guy being the guy that

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Speaker 1: had been our starter for years, and another guy that

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had paid and they chose you

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Speaker 1: for that spot to make the team. But again he

448
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Speaker 1: started as a third stringer and needed broken ankles and

449
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: broken feet to ever get on the field. So to me, historically,

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Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins, a lot of these guys that were

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Speaker 1: drafted a little bit later, they got an easier landing

452
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Speaker 1: spot in the start of their career when you overdraft

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Speaker 1: in this quarterback inflation, and listen, everything is really expensive now, right.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a buddy today about plane flights,

455
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Speaker 1: plane flights just you know, depending on where you live,

456
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Speaker 1: you could find for whatever number you got pretty accustomed

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Speaker 1: to do, especially if you're my age and you've been

458
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Speaker 1: flying for a couple decades. Hey, you know, I can

459
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: always find a cheap flight for a couple hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: to fly here, to fly there. Obviously, there are some

461
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Speaker 1: flights that are always a little bit more expensive, but

462
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: now like the bare minimum flight of what you were

463
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Speaker 1: used to, like, you almost have to double it, and

464
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Speaker 1: it's part of the deal. Most things, beside televisions, for

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00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: whatever reason, are way more expensive now than they used

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Speaker 1: to be. But I still don't understand how the profile

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Speaker 1: of a player has changed, Like he either has the

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Speaker 1: attributes or he doesn't. We have seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys historically that were one year starters blow up in

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Speaker 1: our face. Like playing and reps in college have proven

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Speaker 1: to be a really big deal. Just look at all

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Speaker 1: the top guys. Right, Joe Burrow, somewhat of an outlier, right,

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Speaker 1: didn't play that much, was a multiple year starter, but

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Speaker 1: like by a second year he threw sixty plus touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and they were the greatest team we'd ever seen. But

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Speaker 1: most guys Patrick Holmes multiple year starter, Josh Allen multiple

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Speaker 1: year starter, Lamar Jackson multiple year starter. And then you

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Speaker 1: get into the Purdies, the Dacks, the Cousins. These guys

479
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Speaker 1: had a ton of reps. So if you're talking about

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, three year starter, if you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: non super high draft picks and you go to the

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Speaker 1: middle rounds, they played a lot of football. So listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that Ty Simpson is some scrub, but

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Speaker 1: to me, historically guys like that went like past pick

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Speaker 1: seventy five and the other thing that allowed that guy

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Speaker 1: to do one it brought more teams into play, typically

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Speaker 1: the good teams. So you could go and have a

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Speaker 1: soft landing spot and got to sit, got to learn,

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Speaker 1: got to get more reps in practice, got to play

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Speaker 1: a bunch of preseason reps. When you get drafted in

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Speaker 1: the top thirty or forty picks, the pressure on you

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Speaker 1: to either start immediately or like once you get your opportunity,

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Speaker 1: like let's say even the Rams picked them, you better

494
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Speaker 1: be damn good because if Stafford retires, their goal next

495
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: year would be to win the NFC West, would be

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Speaker 1: to win playoff games like that. The bar is fucking high.

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Speaker 1: And if one of the shitty teams that needs a

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Speaker 1: quarterback like Arizona the Jets, you know, one of those

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Speaker 1: type teams draft you godspeed, because I would bet on

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Speaker 1: you to fail. So I think this Ty Simpson talk

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Speaker 1: is just classic quarterback inflation. Now I'm a little jaded.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I need to go back and watch watch him

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Speaker 1: a bunch down the stretch of the season. I know

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Speaker 1: he's a little banged up. I didn't think he was

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Speaker 1: that talented. I have a hard time with guys with

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Speaker 1: limited traits who just haven't played that much to take high.

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Speaker 1: Like I've just seen too many Mac Jones, too many

508
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Speaker 1: Kenny Picketts. The pressure on those guys to immediately compete

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Speaker 1: within a couple of years to be a top ten quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're like, is this

511
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Speaker 1: guy even a starter? And then you get in weird spots.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time seeing it. I think good gms would not draft

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Speaker 1: this guy in the first round. Could be wrong. Maybe

515
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: a good team ends up taking them. But where I'm

516
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Speaker 1: sitting based on what I've seen to me historically, like

517
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Speaker 1: he's a Day three pick. Some other stories around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think sometimes this back to the JSN thing.

519
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: These contracts, they're very they're confusing, and we had learned

520
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce signed like a one year twelve million deal

521
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Speaker 1: with the chances to win fifty or make fifteen million,

522
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it comes out today

523
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Speaker 1: he got three years like fifty plus million dollars. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the guarantees of the contract changed, like they're

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Speaker 1: guaranteeing them one year a lot like Mike Evans. It

526
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Speaker 1: was like Mike Evans got three years sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: It turns out he got one year sixteen million. The

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Speaker 1: reason you give a multi year contract is because of

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Speaker 1: the signing bonus and the guaranteed money. The money that

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Speaker 1: you pay up front you can amortize over the course

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Speaker 1: of the life of the deal, and even if the

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Speaker 1: guy retires or you cut him, you can push the

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Speaker 1: money back and manipulate the salary cap. So I think

534
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: we make a bigger deal over sometimes when these numbers

535
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: come out, like the big numbers are the big numbers,

536
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Speaker 1: like Jalen Phillips. The Panthers are in bed with him

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00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, Like, they're gonna need him

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00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: to be good if there. If he's not, it would

539
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: blow up in their face. Right, Remember when the Buffalo

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00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Bills gave von Miller a bunch of money after he

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Speaker 1: had won. He had been on the Super Bowl team

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00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: with the La Rams and like he had a sack

543
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: in every playoff game. He looked really good and then

544
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Speaker 1: it just he got injured for him and it was

545
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: a disaster. I mean, they were carrying a number for

546
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: him last year, Like he got to be very careful

547
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: with that with the signing bonuses and guaranteed money. But

548
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: I think the Kelsey thing is more like for show

549
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: than it is in reality the impact of what it's

550
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Speaker 1: gonna do to like their books. One thing that I

551
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: found kind of interesting and listen, I'm buddies with Daniel

552
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Jeremiah will have to have him on over the next

553
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, is you know NFL network. It's crazy.

554
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Speaker 1: I maybe I'm the wrong person ass, but historically I've

555
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: watched a lot of NFL Network. I used to watch

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Speaker 1: back when I was living in the Bay, a lot

557
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Speaker 1: of NBA TV. I watch a ton of Golf channel.

558
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean a ton of Golf channel. But the reality

559
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: is these networks don't do that well. Now the NFL

560
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: network carry some games. NBA TV, I don't even know

561
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Speaker 1: if NBA TV is still around used to carry games.

562
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Speaker 1: Golf Channel carries events on Thursday and Friday and sometimes

563
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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday on the weekends, so they have some

564
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Speaker 1: inventory of the sport. But a lot of it is

565
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: like people talking bs and hanging out right, and for

566
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, they don't do that well. And part of

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Speaker 1: it is the cord cutting, and you know, habits have changed.

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Speaker 1: But I've always been a consumer, Like throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of my life, I was right down their wheelhouse. I

570
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: was like, if I would have liked tennis, I probably

571
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: would have watched Tennis channel. I like individual channels on

572
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Speaker 1: the sport, even if some of their stuff stupid. I'm

573
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Speaker 1: not really getting up watch a good Morning Football though.

574
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: I like Schreeger and Kyle Brandt, But like I think

575
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: they've they've tried to do good programming, but it hasn't worked,

576
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: and they offloaded it. The NFL wanted out of the business,

577
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Speaker 1: and disneylands it, and now there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk of like, you know, what's gonna happen the other

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Speaker 1: stories about rap sheets contract being up. It's like, is

580
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: ESPN gonna want schefter and rap sheet or Schefter is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to grind my whole life.

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00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm almost sixty years old. I want to be breaking

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: stories for the next twenty years. I want to spend

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Speaker 1: time with my family. So who knows how it all

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Speaker 1: plays out, but for an office Sports reported that the

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Speaker 1: NFL network this year is gonna carry the draft like normal,

587
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: because I was like, what's gonna happen here? So ESPN

588
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: will have their draft coverage, McAfee will have draft coverage,

589
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: and the NFL network will have draft coverage. But I

590
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: think there's a chance this is the last year that

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00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: the NFL network like it does now ever, just has

592
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Speaker 1: its own draft coverage with Rich Eyes and Daniel Jeremiah,

593
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Charles Davis kind of that crew. Now, they've kind of

594
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: been cross pollinating over the course of the last couple

595
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Speaker 1: of years. You know, Klatt's been doing some stuff. But

596
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I would get ready for this all to be under

597
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: the one umbrella in twenty twenty seven and they can

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Speaker 1: utilize NFL Network for preseason games and other stuff. I

599
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: don't think the channel's going away. But I was always

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00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: a fan of like going back and forth, going back

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00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to when DJ first got the gig with Mayok to

602
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: when Gruden used to be on the booth screaming about

603
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: Johnny football. I think we are headed toward and this

604
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: is just kind of the way society works of just

605
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: like one like one version, it's just gonna be one desk. Now.

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00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: I think McAfee will always have his thing going because

607
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: it's a different vibe. But I don't think that rich

608
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Eisen going up against I don't even know Rhys Davis

609
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: who have Greenberg. Maybe rich Eisen just goes into that

610
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: seat and starts hosting on ESPN in twenty twenty seven

611
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah melkiper some version of that. But I

612
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: think we should enjoy it while we have it, because

613
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: we don't have it from a longer. One story I

614
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: found pretty interesting. I didn't know much about this guy,

615
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: Owen Heinike linebacker for Oklahoma. He went to the Combine

616
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: and worked out, and he is currently suing the NCAA

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00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: for a year of eligibility stories. Pretty interesting. Started his

618
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: career in twenty twenty one at Ohio State, but he

619
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Speaker 1: didn't play football. He played lacrosse that he transferred Oklahoma,

620
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: where he redshirted in twenty two, played twenty three, twenty four,

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Speaker 1: twenty five, And you know, goes, I've only played three

622
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: years of football that one year of lacrosse, so he's

623
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Speaker 1: basically suing for that one year of lacrosse not to count,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't necessarily bother me. I was like, yeah, I'm

625
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Speaker 1: not gonna get caught up in that. I have no

626
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Speaker 1: problem hope he wins. I've always said this, though, you

627
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Speaker 1: should be able to if you do have the eligibility,

628
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: go to the combine, go through the process and see, like,

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Speaker 1: let that thing play out. And then after it's like, hey,

630
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Speaker 1: you know, we told you were gonna be a second

631
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Speaker 1: round pick. Maybe you're going to be a fourth round

632
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Speaker 1: pick or vice versa. We thought you were gonna be

633
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Speaker 1: a third day pick, but I think you're a locked

634
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: second rounder now. And I think that can influence the

635
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: decision on guys, because there used to be that rule

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Speaker 1: of the hard date either the middle of the end

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Speaker 1: of January or essentially you had to declared for the

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Speaker 1: draft and there was no turning back. Well, now that

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Speaker 1: the NCAA has little to note juice. I think we

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Speaker 1: need to rethink this, and I think there's been some

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Speaker 1: change over the course of the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: But I would just have a pure get as many

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Speaker 1: people to the combine as possible, even if guys are like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm probably not gonna come out, go there

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Speaker 1: and maybe you can hurt, you know, improve your stock,

646
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you can turn around. Now

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Speaker 1: college coaches wouldn't love this because you get a guy's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we think we're keeping this guy. All of a sudden

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Speaker 1: he goes from a fifth rounder like hey, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go on the second day of the draft, It's like,

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Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm out. And even with the nil so,

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Speaker 1: I I would imagine the way everything has been going

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Speaker 1: that Owen Heinike will be back at Opa Lahoma and

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Speaker 1: then potentially next year have another good season and being

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Speaker 1: the NFL in two years. Okay, before we died for

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Speaker 1: my friends at Toyota. And I saw Michael Pittman, who

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Speaker 1: I actually think twofold. I think the way he plays

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Speaker 1: is perfect for Pittsburgh was just traded this offseason from

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts after they gave Pierce the big deal

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Speaker 1: and two. I've seen a lot of guys like Michael Pittman.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's these guys like to a tee,

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Speaker 1: but it does feel that Mike McCarthy has had a

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Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers that played in his style. You know,

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Speaker 1: going back to Jordan Nelson, you know, DeVante is different,

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Speaker 1: but just a big, physical guy, good route runner, great

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Speaker 1: at the point of you know, the catch point in

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Speaker 1: terms of making contested catches. I know he's had a

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Speaker 1: down year and some of my friends in the league

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Speaker 1: think he's slipping a little bit. I would expect for

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Speaker 1: him to have a bounce back season. I like their duo,

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Speaker 1: you know, Pittman and DK Metcalf, like pretty good one

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Speaker 1: two combination. Really probably two two's, but like that's solid,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the tight ends. If they can somehow

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Speaker 1: figure out the running back. Caleb Johnson, the running back

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Speaker 1: they drafted from Iowa, who's disaster last year. I liked

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Speaker 1: him in college, but maybe I was wrong. Problem is

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Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback and Pittman today I saw

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Speaker 1: some quotes saying like, hey, I'm giving Rogers a space

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Speaker 1: he can still play. We still want him, but I

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Speaker 1: have not talked to him, and I think sometimes this situation.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I got it like you just left the Jets,

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Speaker 1: you were cut for the first time, but now you're

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Speaker 1: kind of putting this team unless there's some handshake deal

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Speaker 1: under the table, like what are we waiting for? And

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that you make this trade, you either

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Speaker 1: are pretty confident he's coming back if you're the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: because you don't acquire another wide receiver when you have

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Speaker 1: no quarterback. Right even last year, I thought it was

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Speaker 1: like you're gonna acquire DK Metcalf, you don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I think there was a little bit of another

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Speaker 1: the table deal. I don't know if there is this year,

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Speaker 1: watching Aaron a couple of weeks ago go on McAfee,

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Speaker 1: but I think if if you get any feeling that

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Speaker 1: he's not coming back, you got to pull the trigger

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Speaker 1: in trade for one of these backups, whether it's McKee

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles, who, according to reports, how he wants

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Speaker 1: a second round pick, whether it's Tyson with the Bears, which,

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Speaker 1: according to reports, the Bears would like a second day pick,

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Speaker 1: so they're not giving these backups away. Same thing with

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones. You need a starting quarterback. You can't have

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Speaker 1: these two wide receivers, this bunch of guys on defense

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Speaker 1: making a lot of money and no quarterback. What's the

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Speaker 1: point in acquiring Michael Pittman if you got no one

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Speaker 1: to throw to them? So I think the change of

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Speaker 1: scenery for Michael Pittman. I like the fit with McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: Like if you would have told me you would have

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Speaker 1: added Pittman when McCarthy wasn't Dallas, this is awesome, Like

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Speaker 1: this is a good He likes these type players, but

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Speaker 1: got to get someone to throw them the ball. So

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Speaker 1: Toyota reminds us that when people are the destination, it's

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Speaker 1: let's bang out some mailbag questions at John Middlecoff. At

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, is the Instagram fire in those dms very

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Speaker 1: easy to get involved in the show. Do you have

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Speaker 1: a way too early AFC playoff prediction? Think about it? Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Bills, Patriots, Texans, Jacks, Bengals, Ravens.

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Speaker 1: That's nine, not even counting the Steelers and maybe the

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Speaker 1: Colts with a healthy Indiana Jones. What's your way to

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Speaker 1: early seven? Why would go Bills in no order? Bills, Chargers, Denver, Texans, Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs, we just got to know about

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Speaker 1: Patrick health. I think they would be a major if

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Speaker 1: you tell me he's healthy, I think they'd go right

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Speaker 1: back in with a good draft. So I think the Jags.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they lost some players in free agency. ETN

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Speaker 1: was big for them. This Travis Hunter thing, how's that

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Speaker 1: gonna play out? Like? Could they trade Brian Thomas during

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Speaker 1: the draft, like their coaching staff, like their head coach.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not at they don't have the first round

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Speaker 1: pick this year because of the trade they made last year.

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Speaker 1: But to me, the Ravens and the Jags, I got

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Speaker 1: some questions. Ravens obviously from a personnel standpoint, lost a

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Speaker 1: bunch of players, got a brand new coaching staff. And

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Speaker 1: the Jags like, Okay, now you're kind of the hunted,

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Speaker 1: you know, last year they kind of got to be

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Speaker 1: the hunter, fly under the radar a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a little bit different when everyone's gunning for you.

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Speaker 1: So I would say the Bills, Chargers, Broncos liked them

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Speaker 1: a lot. Texans really liked them. If CJ can just

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Speaker 1: kind of find his stride, I gotta know who the

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Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback is the Pats, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I they're gonna be solid because again, they got good coaches,

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Speaker 1: but the schedule was so easy last year. Who's he

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Speaker 1: throwing to? I think the AFC is pretty open like,

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Speaker 1: this is a this is if you're Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: the Bills, like time is now, if you're Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers, time is now. It's why Denver just

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Speaker 1: traded for Jalen Wata because like, we can win it now.

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Speaker 1: Still salty never answered my dumb aunt and Edwards question,

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Speaker 1: I did I think I said he'd played tight end.

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Speaker 1: Could a hypothetical billionaire and Niners fan buy Seattle and

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Speaker 1: tank their franchise? Or would the NFL step in? The

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Speaker 1: Allen family would have to sign off, so the billionaire

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Speaker 1: would have to be undercover. Why would you spend You'd

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Speaker 1: have to be so filthy rich to spend ten eleven,

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Speaker 1: twelve billion dollars to ruin the team. The whole fun

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Speaker 1: of the team or to make any big purchase is

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Speaker 1: to be in charge and win, like why would you?

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is this is a gig that

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Speaker 1: you are a very public figure. So local radio, national

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Speaker 1: radio podcasts, you know, the athletic bloggers, all sorts of

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Speaker 1: people that talk about football would start shitting on you. You know,

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Speaker 1: ask Jimmy Haslam what it's like in Cleveland. It ain't fun.

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Speaker 1: It's way more fun to be like, we love this guy,

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Speaker 1: Like what this is awesome? So, I I guess in

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Speaker 1: a hypothetical world, sure, but that's I don't see that

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Speaker 1: happening now the JSN is extended, who do you think

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Speaker 1: ends up with a bigger deal him or Puka? Given

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Speaker 1: his bit of a meathead? Do you think the Rams

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Speaker 1: have hesitation about handing out I say this earlier that

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Speaker 1: I just think that it's there's more risk there than

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Speaker 1: jays N. There's more risk there than obviously justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: It just it's one of those where you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: it and anytime there are some guys like you don't

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Speaker 1: even think about it, like what's the cost? Boom pine Sewel,

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Speaker 1: this is what it costs? Right? You know you just

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Speaker 1: get great players in them. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: like all time great players, uh in their prime right

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Speaker 1: now that you just Jamar Chase pine Sewell, you know

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Speaker 1: the Eagles with DeVante Smith. There are certain players it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a cost, Pam or let's get in front

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Speaker 1: of it, ceedee Lamb. You know Jerry always waited, but

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Speaker 1: typically Michael Parsons. Uh. So I think that I don't

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Speaker 1: know my guess would be they end up just paying them, right,

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Speaker 1: because I do think it's risky. They're in win now mode.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to win the super Bowl this year. That

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Speaker 1: if you just make him play out another season on

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Speaker 1: the fourth year of his rookie deal, does that fuck

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Speaker 1: him up mentally if you're gonna do that when you

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Speaker 1: just trade him now? But the problem is they want them,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know. I don't have a great feel

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Speaker 1: for that one. They're pretty quiet about it, you know,

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Speaker 1: And when their stories coming out that he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to wait a minute, I think that shows you they're

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Speaker 1: working this. They're workshopping this thing as they should. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you're talking these huge numbers, you better feel pretty confident, right,

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Speaker 1: you better feel pretty confident clearly. You know, the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: for example, bizarre operation because of Jerry, but he's like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I think they'd be the first tell you Mike is

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Speaker 1: a freak talent. He's a special pass rusher. But him

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Speaker 1: getting fifteen sacks for us ain't gonna lead us to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl and giving them all this money when

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Speaker 1: we're already paying Dak and CD and we're gonna eventually

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Speaker 1: have to pay some of these other guys doesn't make

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Speaker 1: that much sense. It actually makes more sense if we

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Speaker 1: can turn him into some first round picks and hit

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Speaker 1: those picks. So there was some logic behind it, right,

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Speaker 1: even if you disagree, like the whole point of a

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Speaker 1: draft is to draft of Michael Parsons then extend him.

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Speaker 1: The problem is Jerry had built the top heavy team

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Speaker 1: and their defense was so shitty that they had to pivot.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to justify it because I think Mike,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there were times this year even maybe I

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Speaker 1: underestimated him a little bit. I don't think he's a

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Speaker 1: perfect player by any means. But when you're that elite

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Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, you know, and you're on a

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Speaker 1: team that's winning a lot, which the Packers would have

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Speaker 1: been up until he got injured, your value is extremely high.

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Speaker 1: Question for the pod TB twelve looked pretty good playing

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Speaker 1: flag football. He's now forty eight, it has been out

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Speaker 1: of the league for three years. Do you think he'd

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Speaker 1: have another Super Bowl by now if he had never

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Speaker 1: stopped playing. It's a good question. The one movie made

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Speaker 1: where he juked out the dude and threw the dime.

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Speaker 1: Listen Dan Marino can still throw a dot. I bet

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Speaker 1: Farv can still throw a ninety five million hour fastball.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is gonna throw a beautiful ball until he's

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Speaker 1: seventy years old. Definitely in his sixties, no problem. I

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Speaker 1: do think the way Tom plays is he couldn't move.

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Speaker 1: So one thing that's hard to happen in Tampa is

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Speaker 1: like he didn't really want to get hit. So do

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Speaker 1: I still think that Tom right now? If you could

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Speaker 1: block form in a given game in like you know,

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Speaker 1: river style, could throw you three or four touchdowns and

847
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: win you a football game. Obviously, could win you a

848
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: playoff game. Could he do the course of a season? Though,

849
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: Because if you don't want to get hit, it's really

850
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: hard to play when that's your style of sitting in

851
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: the pocket, especially now there's less good offensive lines, there's

852
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: more pass rushers. It's inevitable you're gonna get hit. So

853
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. Do I think he can

854
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: still throw dots on a post route or the timing

855
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: on an out route, or chain shit the line of

856
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: scrimmage and gets you into the right like he could die.

857
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: He's playing everyone's playing checkers, he's playing chess. I just

858
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: think that that last year in Tampa, like he wanted

859
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: no part of getting hit. Even Rogers this year and

860
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: again he had a broken hand. You can just tell it, like,

861
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: do I want to get crushed right now? I'm worth

862
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars. I've already a champion, My

863
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: legacy's already set. It sucks all of a sudden, Danille

864
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Hunter's coming around the edge. You're like, what am I doing?

865
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: There's a question about Kelsey. I saw the he signed

866
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: the three year, fifty four million dollars deal. Is the

867
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs getting caught up in nostalgia? There's no way he

868
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: plays three more years again, I said this earlier. It's

869
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: about the extension of pushing the money down. You're just

870
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: manipulating the salary cap. That's all I think modern day

871
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: football is for the good teams manipulating the cap. I mean,

872
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: that's that's all it is with contracts, manipulating as much

873
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: as humanly possible, and pray that it doesn't bite you

874
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: in the ass. I was listening to talk about the

875
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA and how NIL has changed the game for

876
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: the big schools to get high end players. It seems

877
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: the new quote diamond in the rough is getting the

878
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: new suite coach, like Indie with Signetti. Even in the NFL,

879
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: like Cohen with the Jacks, how do coaches find quote

880
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: diamond in the rough. Well, the difference in college than

881
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: the pros is, like Liam Cohen's a good example in

882
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: the NFL. If I sign you to whatever, a four

883
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: or five year contract for Liam Cohen, so he gets

884
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: five years, we'll say, you know, we'll say he got

885
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: six or seven million dollars. It's not like he's making

886
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: Andy Reid money. He's never been a head coach. A

887
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: year in you're like, god, we got a gym, right,

888
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: we got something special. In college, Liam Cohen, all these

889
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: other colleges would have been trying to get his services,

890
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: like Kenny Dillingham with ASU. All of a sudden, Michigan's

891
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: like he has to turn them down. He has to

892
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: turn down, like LSU's calling him, Florida's calling him. In

893
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: the pros, you don't have to worry about that. Once

894
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: you got a guy, you just kind of keep them.

895
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: As long as you're winning, he's gonna stay and you

896
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: just extend him in college, like Signetti is a gem

897
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: and he's a dominant coach. They pay him thirteen million dollars.

898
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: He's a highest paed coach in the country, so they

899
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: had to pay him a premium and do a good

900
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: job building around him. So the difference in college is

901
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: like coaches can leave. In the pros, you're kind of

902
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: stuck if it's going well, Like Liam Cohen can't just

903
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: pimp out his services. Last year, when Kevin O'Connell wanted

904
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: to raise he had to go through Glazer to be

905
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: like teams might trade for him. It's like, well, the

906
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: Vikings would have to trade him, which clearly they're not

907
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: gonna do. But why did he why did that story

908
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: come out? He wanted a big race in college, Kevin O'Connell.

909
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: The equivalent would have been like Michigan's offering their head job,

910
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Florida's offering him the head job, and they would have

911
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: to give him a race. Happens all the time in college,

912
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: so there are more variables in college with that. Obviously,

913
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: everyone just wants the best coach possible. In the pros,

914
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: in the NBA, in the NFL, if you get the

915
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: right coach, you just keep them in. In college, if

916
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: you're not Ohio State or Oregon or something, and even Oregon,

917
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: it's like Dan Lanning had to be like listen, I

918
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: don't want to leave, and like Alabama's interested in him.

919
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: If he had wanted to go, he could have. So

920
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: that's something that college you don't or in pros you

921
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: don't need to mess with. And just because you leave

922
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the grass is always greener. But like Matt

923
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: Campbell at Iowa State, if that was the NFL, like

924
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, whoever, they they don't have to worry about

925
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: him leaving two Penn State, Ben Johnson is just their coach.

926
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: Question for the bag. I'm twenty five years old. I'm

927
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: set to have my first child in June. Congratulations Casey

928
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: a boy having jacket forty? Are there any life lessons

929
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: that you've learned since you were twenty five that helped

930
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: you prepare for fatherhood? Also, we live right next to Tennessee,

931
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: where I went to college, and I'm curious, is Tie

932
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the draft behind Mendoza? Is he

933
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: better than Pavia and Aguilar? I talked to a scouting

934
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: buddy today. Actually, I was in the car picking up

935
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: my mother in law that I flew her out this

936
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: week because My guy Jack is just he sees sleep

937
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: as the enemy. And you can follow any procedure, any

938
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: book or podcast on ways to train sleep. But for

939
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: this nine week old, he beats to his own drum.

940
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: And it has been Navy seal training around here. Someone

941
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: asked me recently, you know preparing, like, is it crazier

942
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: than what you thought about. I'll be honest, I didn't

943
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: really think much about it. I just I mean, I

944
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: always wanted children. I just had to meet the right

945
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: person and be stable in my life and be in

946
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: a position where I could do it. But I never

947
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: thought about what it was actually gonna be. Like most

948
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: of my friends or brothers, you're around their kids, but

949
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: you're not like every single day when they're infants, right

950
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: or young babies. It is just that there is no preparation, really,

951
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, in the life, lesson stuff

952
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: about you know, what you're gonna teach them stuff you're

953
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: not even You're just trying to get them not to cry,

954
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, and not to burn, you know, try to

955
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: get them to burp so they can lay on their

956
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: back and go to sleep. It's I think that stuff

957
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: is at least for me, me more as you get older,

958
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: which I would say, my core values and morals haven't

959
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: changed since I was like in high school. I would

960
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: say the one thing that I am way more natal.

961
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: I was very selfish, you know. I think all I

962
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: cared about in my twenties and even through my early

963
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: thirties were like myself, my own ambitions, what I had

964
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: to do. I didn't think of other people. And as

965
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: you get older, as you know, a good woman comes

966
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: in your life, you know, you you just get more

967
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: perspective on like things are bigger than yourself, that don't

968
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: be so caught up in your own world, because most

969
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: people don't give a shit. So I would say that

970
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 1: trying to think of others, including my wife going through

971
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: this is something I try to think a lot about.

972
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: One piece of advice that I sectually saw on Instagram,

973
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: which I trust me we've I haven't followed this to

974
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: a tee, but when you're up at three am with

975
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: the baby, don't speak. Yeah, just just don't speak to

976
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: each other because typically the conversations you're tired. It's just

977
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: it's not a happy environment. That would be my recommendation.

978
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: I saw that on an Instagram reel one time. It's

979
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: like piece of advice is for new baby three am.

980
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: Keep quiet now again, I've been guilty of saying things

981
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: because you're just not even thinking straight, you're pissed off,

982
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: you're just in the middle of the night time. You'd

983
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: never be up. Don't say anything, but I would say,

984
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have a you know, much different twenties,

985
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: late twenties than myself. Just think of other people think

986
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: of her, but I didn't. I wouldn't have learned that,

987
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, up until now. And then the thing you're

988
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: gonna teach a child, I think you just teach him

989
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: as they get older and they can communicate and they

990
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: can remember, you know. So I'm not in that face.

991
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get him to you know, I

992
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: don't even know not shit all over me. The Patriots

993
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: reached the Super Bowl after spending the GDP of a

994
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: small nation on free agency last offseason. Do you think

995
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: the Panthers can make a similar type leap after signing

996
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, Devin Lloyd or Shehe Walker. I think it's

997
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: safe to say two things can be true. They overpaid

998
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, like they paid him more money than his

999
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: profile and resume would say he was worth. But when

1000
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: you make it a free agency, you got to pay

1001
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: a premium and essentially like a tax to acquire guys

1002
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: that other teams would want. But I also think they

1003
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: need them and if he can just be a productive

1004
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: pass rusher for them, it's this isn't an apples to

1005
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: apples situation, but I remember people like guys gave him

1006
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money. He traded a high pick for

1007
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: Brian Burns, like you watch Brian Burns for the Giants.

1008
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: Like that guy could play for any team if Jalen

1009
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: Phillips can be that, Like you don't need to be

1010
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: Von Miller in his prime. I don't need to be

1011
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. But can you be a guy when people

1012
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: watch TV and watch your team play, be like, I fuck,

1013
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I want that guy on my squad. It's a gay

1014
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: making a little bit more than I'd like to pay him,

1015
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: But like, that guy's an impact player. He can really

1016
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: rush the passer. If Jalen Phillips can do that. I've

1017
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: like Lloyd since Utah. He obviously had kind of a

1018
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: breakout year last year. Their formula is pretty clear. They

1019
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: don't have Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes. He's gonna have

1020
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: to be a game manager. McMillan's a good player. They

1021
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: got some good pieces on the offensive line. They need

1022
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: to have a good defense, and like that formula can

1023
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: win them ten games. He's gonna have some bad games.

1024
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna get overwhelmed. He's also gonna have some good games.

1025
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: He's going to be a very up and down player.

1026
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: To me, the question with them big picture because I

1027
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: think next year they could win the division, But like,

1028
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: how do you handle this situation with his contract? Personally

1029
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: pick up the fifth year option and we just play

1030
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: out his entire rookie contract and we'd figure it out

1031
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: from there. But you cannot do the Tua Kyler thing.

1032
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: That's how you get in trouble. Good question, similar question.

1033
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: They's had a very good uh this on the Panthers

1034
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: between seeing what happened to Kyler and Tua not talking

1035
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: contract extension with Bryce yet, could they be setting up

1036
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: to be the first team to tell a quarterback this

1037
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: is the number we think you're worth, rather than just

1038
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: picking the number up with the quarterback scale. Build a

1039
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: great team that could succeed with Bryce or the next

1040
00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: reclamation project. My question is this, do you want to

1041
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: give him a contract extension? Like let's say, hey, Bryce,

1042
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: we think you're worth like three years seventy million dollars.

1043
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: Do you want to give him three years seventy million dollars?

1044
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: Or you like, do we just want this guy for

1045
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: really cheap? My question is do you want to give

1046
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: this guy a contract extension? I could not say right

1047
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: now I feel comfortable doing that now. Again, I'm not

1048
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: like I've watched every Panther snap. I probably watch more

1049
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: bad than good. I know he had some moments in

1050
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: the playoff games, but I wouldn't even be it wouldn't

1051
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: even be on my top of mind. Like the Texans

1052
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: right now, it's like CJ. We want to build around you.

1053
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: We just need to see more. We know you have

1054
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: it in you, but can you play just a different

1055
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: style of football? Like Bryce? I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: he hasn't in him to be like a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And this you know, technically, this administration, the coach specifically,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he was the guy that drafted him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when on this forty nine or fan here would you

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Speaker 1: rather have or Brock I would say in twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Brock because, especially for the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: there's a athletic element that Dak no longer has. Now,

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Speaker 1: Dak in just a pure passing offense is going to

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Speaker 1: be better than Perty. I mean, part of Purdy's skill

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Speaker 1: set is Kyle's offense. Dak when he played for Mike

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Speaker 1: and now Schottenheimer, there's just like drop back sling it.

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Speaker 1: That's not really Perty's deal. So I think there are

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Speaker 1: skill sets. Dak used to be much more of a

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Speaker 1: hybrid player. He now doesn't move as well, but he's

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Speaker 1: a better I would say, pure pocket passer. He's just taller.

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Speaker 1: He can see that Dak's developed into a really good player.

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Speaker 1: Perty has a element of his athleticism that's a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge addition to the forty nine ers because beside Trent Williams,

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Speaker 1: they're not exactly you know, a bunch of all pros

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Speaker 1: up front, so they need him to move around and

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Speaker 1: he does really well. Dak couldn't do that for the night.

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Speaker 1: He could when he was younger. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: would have got Dak, or if Dak would have got

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Speaker 1: with a guy like Kyle, you know, or you know

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Speaker 1: in La floor Kevin O'Connell or McVeigh when he was

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Speaker 1: young in that offense, I think he would have been

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Speaker 1: could have had a lot of success. He's had a

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Speaker 1: lot of success, but I just wonder if his playoff

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Speaker 1: resume would have looked a little differently. He's obviously had

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Speaker 1: a really good career. I'm much higher on Dak now

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Speaker 1: than I was early in his career. I know, I

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Speaker 1: know he's had a rough stretch there of the playoff games,

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Speaker 1: but I definitely think he's good enough to have playoff moments.

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Speaker 1: They just haven't really come in the big spots. I

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Speaker 1: know he had the one game against Tampa when they

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Speaker 1: were terrible, But I would say I would say it

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Speaker 1: like this if the Cowboys, and obviously money and contracts

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Speaker 1: are complicated, if Jerry Jones called Kyle and John and

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Speaker 1: said Dak for Purdy or vice versa, I think they

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Speaker 1: both just say no. I don't think the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers would trade Brock Purty for Dak Prescott, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys would trade Dak Prescott for Brock Party.

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Speaker 1: So it's one of those It's like they're kind of

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Speaker 1: in the same spot, right, They're in the same world.

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Speaker 1: They're not in that upper tier. They're better than the

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Speaker 1: majority of guys, and they both have a little bit

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Speaker 1: different of a skill set. But I like both guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm higher on Brocked and guys like Colin, and I'm

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Speaker 1: higher on Dacked than people that think he's overrated. He

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Speaker 1: makes a lot right but uh, it's Jerry for you audios.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you tomorrow. The volume