1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Mommies, a myth and Bullshit, a radio 2 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by Malamn. Welcome back to 3 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: local Radio. Thanks for tuning in. As always, we are 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: keeping brown girl our. So this podcast is for brown Girls, 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: by brown girls, and today we're going to talk about 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Internet womenism and online blue, something that brought Mala and 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I both together, So she's going to introduce that topic 8 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: to y'all. So, Mala, do you want to go ahead 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: and do that? Yeah? Thank you. So. Our idea for 10 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: today's um Our second episode, I think really came from 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: our own individual experiences with the Internet, with connecting with 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: other mohere um online, and with connecting with women who 13 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: are practicing like their own Native Indigenous Afro Indigenous spirituality 14 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: or bruhia or consciousness. And so we wanted to take 15 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: this time on this episode, on this couple to kind 16 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: of talk about the intersections about being a feminist, being 17 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: a woman is being a mohair and also having our 18 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: own roots, our own spiritual roots, our own indigenous practices 19 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: or fragments of Indigenous practices and spirituality. And so what 20 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna do today is talk about our own you know, 21 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: diosa and I our own individual experiences and connections with Bruheia, 22 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: what Bruhia means to each of us. But then also 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: talking about our favorite our favorite Instagram, Twitter brujns. Yes, 24 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: and that's and and the reason why we bring up 25 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter and also, um, I mean any other 26 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: online you know platform where women come together and can 27 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: freely share and talk to each other and share you know, 28 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: our practices, our pain, our history, all that stuff. And 29 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: Tumbler as well, because that's where I see all these 30 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: more heads converging and creating and sharing. It's all online. 31 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: There's a coven on social media, absolutely, and I think 32 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: that you know, everybody can fit into that coven in 33 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: their own way. And the we're going to get into 34 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: our faves later. But all the people that that we love, 35 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: I think contribute differently, you know, and they add something 36 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: unique to that coven, to this online Bruhia. Yeah. I 37 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about that later. Um. So to 38 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: get started, we're going to share, like Mama said, our 39 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: own experiences with Bruheedia or our own spiritual practices. So 40 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: do you want to get started? But we can just 41 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: have so san I mean for me. You know, I'm 42 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: a third generation Mexican American at third generation Chicana. My 43 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: mom is from l a Um, my grandmother is from Mexico. 44 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: My dad and his mother and his whole side of 45 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: the family are all from Bakersfield, California, right, But each 46 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: of us have retained on some level, some semblance of 47 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: indigenous or Afro Indigenous spirituality coming from Mexico, right. And 48 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: I have memories of being very young and like my grandmother, 49 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: for example, who's from Jalisco, Um, she leaves candles right 50 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: burning like all night, you know, for a couple of 51 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: days until they burn out on their own. And that's 52 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: very intentional, you know, there's always LEAs in the house constantly. 53 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: And then on my father's side of the family, when 54 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: we were born, each of us, my siblings and I 55 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: my dad, he and his family, what they do is 56 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: they save the umbilical courts from the newborn bay these 57 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: and my dad buried all of our bilical cords under 58 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: a tree in the back of the house, in the backyard. 59 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: And the intention behind that is to you know, ground 60 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: your child like literally like in the earth in the pierra, 61 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: but also to encourage your child to always come home, 62 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: to find their way back home, whatever home is, you know, 63 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: maybe not to that physical location, but back to family, 64 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: back to community. And for me, I think that's so special, 65 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: Like that's so beautiful, that beautiful, you know, like anybody 66 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: could have a birthday party, but to have a parent 67 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: intentionally right, try and connect you back with the earth 68 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: and on a spiritual level, connect you back with your family, 69 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I think is so great. And then my dad the 70 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: other thing that he did for us is he gave 71 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: us all a one week birthday party. And so I 72 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: don't know what exactly the roots of that are. That 73 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: could be considered just superstition, right, because back in the day, 74 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: like lot of babies didn't live, right, there's a lot 75 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: of infant mortality, especially if you think about like my 76 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: dad comes from a very very low income, like farm 77 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: worker background in Bakersfield, California. So in that context where 78 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: you have a lot of poor farm workers, um, poor Mexicans, 79 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: poor Mexican Americans, por Latinos, poor Filipinos right working in 80 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the fields and not having access to health care, being 81 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: exposed to pesticides. You see, you saw back in the 82 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: day a lot of infant mortality that children were not 83 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: living past a week past two weeks, so for us, 84 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: we came out of that kind of tradition. So we 85 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: all got a one week birthday party. So for me, 86 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's certain aspects of growing up 87 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: where you could call that activity or that behavior is superstition, 88 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: or you can look at that superstition and say, actually, 89 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: this is something that maybe is deeply connected to an 90 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: ancestor and ancestral knowledge and tradition. So I like to 91 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: believe that the things that my father and that my 92 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: grandmother and my mother have done for us are not 93 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: just born out of thin air, but that they come 94 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: from a specific like indigenous you know, place in history, 95 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: and like on my dad's side where Yakima Indians you know, 96 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: from the north, And I just I just have to 97 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: believe that that has not all been in race, that 98 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: it's still there, that we still carry all of that 99 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: with us, all that energy and that power. So for me, 100 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: like I have taken those examples that my parents and 101 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: my grandparents have given me and I kind of ran 102 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: with it and I wanted to learn more. So for me, 103 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Bruhetia has a lot to do with taking those fragments 104 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: that we've been left with, you know, post colonization, post genocide, 105 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: post migration and displacement, and taking those fragments and trying 106 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: to make them whole again or piece them together. And 107 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: I've been able to do a lot of that online 108 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: and connecting with other latin As, other women of color, 109 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: other people from an Indigenous background who are living there, 110 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: Indigenous or Afro Indigenous spirituality today in that's really beautiful. 111 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: I like what you said about UM stuff or practices 112 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: that may be seen as superstitious UM, but really believing 113 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: and knowing that there is a connection. There's a historical connection. 114 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: And I feel like my exposure to any type of 115 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Indigenous practices or ancestral practices that have been passed down 116 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: I always connected them with a type of superstition growing up, 117 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: and I didn't really I didn't realize until now as 118 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: an adult, and now that I'm in my own consciousness 119 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: of what Bruheia is and what Indigenous practices are UM, 120 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: now I can see it differently, you know. And for me, 121 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: you know what you said about your grandmother, um leaving 122 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: VELAs on all night for days, right, my dad would 123 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: do this thing. And I think my exposure to any 124 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: type of spiritual practices was definitely on my pervian side. 125 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: So on my dad's side, Um, I know he probably 126 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't like that I share this, but he like his 127 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: own you know that he visits and it's very is 128 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: very low key about it because that's not something that 129 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: we that he may be because he considers himself to 130 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: be very Catholic or very religious, that type of like 131 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: traditional organized religion. Right. But I'm like, okay, well there's 132 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: something there if you you feel like the need to 133 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: to seek out something outside of the church and a 134 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: healer that's a woman outside of the church, right, So 135 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: there's definitely something there. Um. So my exposure was also 136 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: him leaving velitas on for days. You know, he would 137 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: put them in the bowl so in case of balls, 138 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: you know there's water, so he would put it in 139 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: a bowl of water and very intentional, very intentional, um, 140 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: and they would burn for days. Um. So that yeah, 141 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: definitely like realitas using stage um, any type of limpia's 142 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: with with withl you know, my grandmother would practice that 143 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: with her children, like to protect from the cure you 144 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: from the ma. You know, that was something that a 145 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: conversation that was always had with me, um, my father, 146 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: He's like mantra form for my entire life is trust nobody. 147 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: And it's so funny because my dad has a really 148 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: thick accent when he speaks English, but he doesn't say 149 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: like nonnati, it's trust nobody like that in those exact words, 150 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: like in English, trust nobody. And when I'm leaving he 151 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: goes yes, and I'm like sea Poppy, trust nobody, you know, 152 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: And so I already know what he's getting at. And 153 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: it's and it's like, you know, his way of like 154 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: protecting me and being like remember like all these things 155 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: that I've taught to you, like you can't trust anybody. 156 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: So I think for me, it's really I think it's 157 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: a really interesting place that, um, that are a connection 158 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: that I have with any type of bruhidia or ancestral 159 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: knowledge is through my father. Um. But then the women 160 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: and fems that I've conjured with obviously our women and 161 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: fem centered but who has. But my connection to any 162 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: type of spiritual spirituality outside of like the religious norm 163 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: is through my father. So I think that that is 164 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: really that's a really interesting connection that I didn't really 165 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: think about until now now that I like having a 166 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: conversation with you. I'm like, oh, that's interesting because you 167 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: know my mom she um, she was born in Mano 168 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: Um but pretty much grew up here UM. And I 169 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: don't think she has that she's aware of, doesn't have 170 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: any type of connection or doesn't practice any type of 171 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: UM indigenous spirituality or any type of you know that happens. 172 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, like you said, those fragments, UM, we definitely 173 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: practice in the in what we can remember, what we 174 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: can gather through people that we know, through what we learned, 175 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: and it's a lot of it is in fragments, right, UM. 176 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,239 Speaker 1: So that's you know, she respects any type of practices 177 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: that I do, UM, and she respects that she asked questions. 178 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: So it's an interesting exchange with my mother and I 179 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: have where she doesn't necessarily um t to me per 180 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: se um. But we're we're both learning together in a way. 181 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: So that's really nice. That's nice. That's beautiful. Yeah, that's 182 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: really nice. And she asked questions. You know, when she 183 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: sees my dad, she's like, so what is that? What 184 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: are you doing? It's going on? Like and she'll just 185 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: like randomly walk by when she sees me letting it Relia, 186 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: She'll be like, okay, so it's like it's kind of 187 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: a joke, but it's kind of serious at the same time, 188 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: you know. So she gets it, and it's nice that 189 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: she can respect it, even though she may not understand 190 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: it or connect to it completely, but she gets it. 191 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: That's great. And I am so interested in what you 192 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: just said about, you know, your father as a as 193 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: a man right and as a man of color, like 194 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: seeking some type of spiritual guidance from a fem a healer, 195 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: which is so interesting because for Catholics, which so many 196 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: Latinos come from a Catholic background, and even if you're 197 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: not from a Catholic background, if you're from some type 198 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: of a Christian background, it's likely that the church leaders 199 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: are going to be men exactly either exclude civilly are 200 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: predominantly right. And so I come from a Catholic background also, 201 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: and so all the church leaders are or men, the 202 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: people who are allowed and ordained and allowed to actually 203 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: like touch the sacrament and perform the ritual or men. 204 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: So it's so interesting that he goes to a woman 205 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: for that additional that outside what he's not getting, and 206 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting too to me that like where I live, 207 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: which is the Pico Union area of l A, which 208 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: is predominantly Central American and very very very strong like 209 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: religious community. So on Pico Boulevard you will see two 210 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: churches on every block, three churches and very active and 211 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: there's always a service going on, especially on a Friday night, 212 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: a Saturday night, that's where the community is at church. 213 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: But at the same time you have two to three 214 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: churches on every block, but you also have a botanica 215 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: and every block it at the same time, same time, 216 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: Pico Boulevard is full of botanicas. You Alvarado is full 217 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: of botanicas. But so that's where you have that mix 218 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: of like the ultra religious, but the Afro indigenous is there. 219 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: That's so that's so beautiful and so um such a 220 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: good example of like how resilience and how resilient our 221 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: communities are because even though um Catholicism or Christianity is 222 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: so rooted in our culture, that's really not something that 223 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: you can escape. If you're Latino Latina Latin x Um, 224 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: you can't really escape it. But at the same time 225 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: you can see the pockets of resistance, like a botanica 226 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: which even the botanica itself is mixed with like religious 227 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: items exactly. And then also you can see things from 228 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: the African diaspora as well. Absolutely, there's there's a botanica 229 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: in Pico Union again, which is predominantly Central American, and 230 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: it's called Botanica ya Ya, right, and so yama Yeah, 231 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: you think of yama Ya in terms of like, yeah, 232 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: like global like African diasporic like Santeria, right or Gandombla 233 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: or you know, and so and she is really associated 234 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: as this like feminine goddess energy having to do with 235 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: the ocean and with water. And her color is yellow. 236 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: But you see both and Pico Union, which I think 237 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: is so interesting and so cool. You know that she's 238 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: embraced in that way. Um. And then yeah, like you're 239 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: saying about the Catholic Church, like it would if I 240 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: were to completely try to extract myself from Catholicism or 241 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: the Catholic calendar, then I would be excluding myself from 242 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot of my own cultural activities because they're so 243 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: intertwined that I must sort of negotiate that relationship. And 244 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one that we we do negotiate. Um. Yeah, 245 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I for for that exact reason, I don't identify as Catholic, 246 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: but a lot of my cultural practices, uh can can 247 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: come back to this kind of calendar, like you said, right, 248 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: and a lot of our our family get togethers are 249 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: also centered around this type of calendar, This revolve around, 250 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: evolve around it. And I mean, you know, obviously for 251 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot of different Latinos we can talk about which 252 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: is like kind of for me as a Chicana, I 253 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: consider the other those mortals to be that sort of 254 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: like epitome of Catholicism needs the indigenous, yes, which is 255 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about it in that way 256 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: because that's how it's manifested, you know. It's it's like 257 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't I can't really imagine like like Vatican City, 258 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: like the Vatican, like you know, all the folks over there, 259 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: all those men really understanding, you know, well, what is this? 260 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I love the other because it's so it's such a 261 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: prime example of what we remember and what remained post colonization, 262 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, because hundreds and hundreds of years later, it's 263 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: still being practiced and it's it's a known tradition, you know. 264 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: And and while the history of it, like maybe it 265 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: gets mixed. You know. I was talking actually with no 266 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: one from Shotmi Viva. Um. We were actually having this 267 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: conversation because she was space painting at an event and 268 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: she was like hearing conversations of you know, people that 269 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: she was reading as Latino, maybe Mexican, maybe Chicano. Um, 270 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: and they when they were telling their children about what 271 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: the others Montos is, it was it wasn't right, it 272 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: was incorrect, you know. Um. So even though not everyone 273 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: may know the actual history or no, the actual historical origins. Yes, um, 274 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: it's something being practiced um. And then something that a 275 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: lot of people can partake in. And no, it is 276 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: not Halloween. It's not Halloween. It is not like Mexican 277 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: Halloween or whatever. People Halloween. Yeah know that. And not 278 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: only Mexicans, right, so not really Mexicans celebrated. I think 279 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: probably every Latin American country might have their own take 280 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: their own version. Yeah. I will say that when I 281 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: was in bed or two years ago, I went to 282 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: a a cemetery on Theos and it was so beautiful. 283 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: It was what was it like? Tell us? It was 284 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: so beautiful? It was um, definitely it was in in Lima. 285 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: It was in maybe like an like an hour like 286 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: outside of the center of Lima centro um. And it 287 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: was interesting because it's like a cemetery but also like 288 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: in a neighborhood at the same time. And it was 289 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: like very traneous, like you had to of course, like 290 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: it was very hilly, um and there were just tombstones everywhere, 291 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: but then you look over and there's like houses, you know, 292 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: and really the only way to get into is like 293 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: byo by foot or by a moto taxi. Um. So 294 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: that was really interesting to see, like the way literally 295 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: folks or communities are like living among you know, the 296 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: remains of like a left one, you know. So that's 297 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: really interesting. Um. And it was definitely it was for me. 298 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: It was like a mix of a lot of feelings obviously, 299 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: like in the tradition of these mentals were celebrating folks 300 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: that we've loved and you know, they made longer be 301 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: with us, but we're remembering them. So it's definitely a 302 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: mix of feeling sad, right because you missed someone, and 303 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: also feeling like not content, but feeling sweet and feeling 304 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: like loving because you remember them and you you were 305 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: able to love them and they were able to love you, 306 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: right um So it was definitely like a mix of 307 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: a mix of emotions. Um yeah, the little moncess is great, 308 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: it's great. And then I think of like just the 309 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: fact that there are so many Latinos. And then again 310 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: like from the from like a you know, like a 311 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: Mexicana Chicana perspective, like we have this like tradition. We're like, 312 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, going to the cemetery like once a week. 313 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: It's very normal. It's so normal for a lot of 314 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: families when hanging out at the sement. I was about 315 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: to say that hanging out on the grave. Yeah. When 316 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: I was young, you know, I never got to meet 317 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: my maternal grandmother. Um So, my grandfather and I were 318 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: so close. We were like he was basically my father 319 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: growing up. Um So, once a week he would take 320 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: me to see my grandma, you know, and we would 321 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: like have lunch there and we would talk and the 322 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: day and we would spend the day there. You know. 323 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: He would pick me up from school and we would 324 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: go and this was in a Rose Hills and Whittier, 325 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: So on our way or on our way back, we 326 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: would like stop because there's the whereas. So they're like 327 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: a strawberry field, you know, so we would stop and 328 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: we would buy like a like and then we would 329 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: like go go back home, you know, and that was 330 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: like our weekly thing together. Um. So even that like 331 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: there's I guess death is so intertwined with our culture 332 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, they're definitely the way 333 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: death is perceived manifest differently in Latin America than it 334 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: does here in the U S. I agree. And even 335 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: just like aesthetically, like a cemetery in Latin America is 336 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: like a site. It is so beautiful. Yeah, like I've 337 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: been to. I was in Mexico City once when I 338 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: was in high school, and the cemetery is over there 339 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: are so beautiful and ornate and colorful. I was in 340 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: Guatemala in when was it was recently? Yeah, in like 341 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: May of this year in and Um I wasn't Antigua, 342 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: and we went to a cemetery there in out right 343 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: outside of Antigua in like the mountains, and oh my god, 344 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: that cemetery was so beautiful, you know, and you can 345 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: just see that like a Latin American servants cemetery. You 346 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: know that there are always people, there's there's always fresh flowers, 347 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: there's food, and you don't see that here. It's it's 348 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: like a place, it's like a site to like mourn 349 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: in a way, you know what I mean. And I 350 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: think here, a lot of cemeteries are far away. You 351 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: have to travel to go visit your loved ones where 352 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: maybe you know, in Latin America, the cemetery is in 353 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: the middle of the neighborhood or it's closed, so it's 354 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: not a big deal to go visit you know, Grandma, 355 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: Grandpa wherever you're visiting after church or whatever it is. 356 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think our connection with death is very unique. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 357 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: You know, my my mom and my my mother now, 358 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: they like are very open about death, Like they always 359 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: talk about like when when I die, and and this 360 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that maybe you don't want to hear 361 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: your mom talk about. You know, no one wants to 362 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: think about their mother not being here, right or their 363 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: loved one not being here. Um, but my family is 364 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: very open about it. You know. My mom is like, 365 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I have my funeral paid off. I 366 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: have a list of what I want. I'm doing it 367 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: like I'm getting it big, like when last time, you know, 368 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: And she's like, I have my list of songs and 369 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: everything and this is my explanation for each song. And 370 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: that's also beautiful because it's like she took She's like, 371 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: I recognize this is going to be impossible for you, 372 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: so I'm like taking the time to plan this all 373 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: out to make it easier for you. So once again, 374 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, being set right. I know it's it's too much, 375 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: but it's sweet in that like morbid exactly, it's such 376 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: a morbid thing, but it's such a Latino thing and 377 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: kind of dark. Absolutely it is what it is. My 378 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: grandma walks around and she, oh my god, like she 379 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: does things like I remember once she was putting on 380 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: like someple so like she was cooking, and then she 381 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: was like talking about she was happy with it, happy 382 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: the way it was coming out. And then she just 383 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: everyone's in a good wound and she casually goes, who knows, 384 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: maybe this is the last Sola I'll ever make. I 385 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: died tomorrow, that is, And that is such a common 386 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: thing to say, I know, I might be dead tomorrow. 387 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: My mom's all the time, or my Momdina, like they'll 388 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: say things like that, you know, like, well maybe I 389 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: won't be here next year. Yeah, you know my mom, 390 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, she loves to decorate, like for holidays. You know, 391 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: today we're recording at my house, so you can see 392 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: like the Halloween decorations everywhere everywhere. So for like Christmas 393 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: and you know, those kinds of holidays, She'll be like like, 394 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: in case I'm going to here next year, like this 395 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: is where it is, because I'm gonna want you to 396 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: decorate like I do. Um, okay, mo, I'm sure you know. Yeah, 397 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a very morbid thing. But death is 398 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's we can't avoid it, right, yeah, like 399 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: our loved ones. And so definitely I think, like, because 400 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: that whole attitude that we have towards dead is so 401 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: different from a US attitude, I have to believe that 402 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: it's connected to the ancestor even if we don't, you know, 403 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: in one way, like there's a there's like a feeling 404 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: that you have around it, right that you can't really 405 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: explain or maybe you don't know why, but you know 406 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: that it's there. You know that it's there. And I 407 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: definitely think agree with you that it's like an ancestral connection. 408 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So I think maybe what we can 409 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: do now is get into our song break. Yes, you 410 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: totally read my mind. So I think I've been realizing 411 00:23:36,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: this lately. We are always in sync of it and 412 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: little ship. What we want to do now is talk 413 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: about our favorite more is our favorite bru has online 414 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: doing it talking about their womanism, their feminism and the 415 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: bruia and how it works together. I think Princess Nokia 416 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: is one of those people who is one of my 417 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: favorite online bru has. But I know you also that 418 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: you have a lot of online bru has that you 419 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: really love. I do. I shout out to all the 420 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: online brujas. Y'all have been really um teaching me and 421 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: helping me in my process of learning and learning. So definitely, 422 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: probably one of the first people that I followed in 423 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: this realm of like brujas and feminists would be The 424 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: Hood which so at the Hood which on Instagram she 425 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: is so fabulous. She really like so she's an online shop. 426 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: She's also a blog, and she sells crystals and cords 427 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: and all these different like things that we need, you know, 428 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: in our brua kids, in our having our out that 429 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, must have. Maybe we'll make a list of 430 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: like our must haves. Yeah, so she is. I think 431 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: now it's like a like a team of people, you know. 432 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: But she's definitely like the founder um the hood, which 433 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: she said that her name came from her grandmother, like 434 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: and being in like the barrio, being in like the hood. 435 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: It's like the hood, which you know. So I love that. 436 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: That's so dope. She's like so tatted, and she has 437 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: just like total fem aesthetic femals, you know, like she 438 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: got the law nails. She always has like a fabulous set. 439 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: She got the stiletto nails also good. She posted about 440 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: like she'll talk about like the healing powers of this 441 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: a certain crystal and like the energy that it carries 442 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: and maybe why you need it in your life and 443 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: so really breaking things down for you. Um. And then 444 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: she also will talk about literature, you know, books that 445 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: that she has in her in her library right or 446 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: that you can even find on her store, and maybe 447 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: why you need it, um in your library. So I 448 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: really like that. It's it's like it's very aesthetically pleasing 449 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: her her Instagram, UM, but it's also very informative and 450 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of knowledge being shared. UM. So I 451 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: really like her. She's super dope. She's really intersectional. She 452 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: I want to say, she's also a fil Latina. I 453 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: maybe I'm making the assumption, um, but I feel like 454 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: I saw something somewhere where she she posted about that 455 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: her identity. Yeah, definitely one of my faiths. She's great, 456 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: She's really awesome. And there are so many, but I mean, 457 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: like I don't even know who to talk about next. 458 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's, for example, there's La Loba Loca who 459 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I first started following La Loba Loca on Tumbler and 460 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: and La Loba like everything that that that they put 461 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: together right is all focused and centered on a Wilita 462 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: knowledge and on indigenous knowledge and healing, and so La 463 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: Loba I appreciate because like what they contribute, the range 464 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: is so wide. So everything from like womb wellness to 465 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: making your own moon paths, you know, handmade tom learning 466 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: how to use different types of herbs and plants to 467 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: make you know your oils and your tinctures and your 468 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: teas and your vaginal steams, you know. And La Loba 469 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: really focuses on on feminine health and wellness and wellness 470 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: from like a bruka, from a bru perspective, from a 471 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: South American indigenous perspective, which is so important, which is 472 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: so valuable and I love that Laba really centers that 473 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: idea of abulita knowledge because again the things that people 474 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: tell us that that's just a superstition, well no, that's 475 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: knowledge exactly. That is not being recognized as knowledge, is 476 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: being recognized as a superstition. Right. And then similar to 477 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: La Loba Loca, I really like um you know, lass 478 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: and are mostly I think centered here in l A. 479 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: And the first time that I got, you know, acquainted 480 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: with them in their work was they would put together 481 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: these um full moon circles and I went to one 482 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: with my friend um Don seeing shout out to the 483 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: local artist here in l A. We'll have around the 484 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: show one day, So me and um Thna we went 485 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: to a full moon circle at the In East l A, 486 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: there's this kind of plasa where they have the big 487 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: round you know, image of oil SHACKI, the goddess essentially 488 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: who fell from the skies and chatter her body shattered 489 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: into a million pieces. So in East l A there's 490 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: this plaza where they have the big I don't even 491 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: know what you call it, but her image. And so 492 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: the moms organized this full moon circle. Um and we 493 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: sat around coil Shaky and it was very much just 494 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: like sharing energy, sharing intentions be so beautiful. Um and 495 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: I know that you have others that you really like. 496 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, this list is so long. It's long, 497 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: and this isn't even all of them right now. Yeah, 498 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: mohead is amazed, so dope, and that moon circle sounds beautiful. 499 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: It is beautiful. I think that they still still do that. 500 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: I saw one that they had one I think like 501 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: a week like the last full moon toil, like a 502 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: week ago. Right. Um. Yeah, I've never been, but I 503 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: would love to check that out. We should go, should go? 504 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Does the full moon circle? Yes, let's do it. Next one, 505 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. And I love I 506 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: just love that, like you can connect any element of 507 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: our world and you can find its feminine connections. It's 508 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: not that the feminine connections don't exists. I'm just not 509 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: looking from thus. Like being intentional and spending time underneath 510 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: the full moon. That's so beautiful, you know. Yeah. I 511 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: have my own full moon rituals that I do on 512 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: my own, but to be in community, like I would 513 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: love to do that absolutely. Um So going on to 514 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: the next person we have on our that we want 515 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: to highlight Um, that's she is a different type of 516 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: because she creates art, so she creates jewelry, so they're 517 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: all from natural stones. I'm actually wearing one right now. 518 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: It's my Rose Courts ring that I love. And Um. 519 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: She shared something the other day on on her Instagram 520 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: that really resonated with me and what I'm going through 521 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: at the moment in my life. So I'm just gonna 522 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: read it. It's a it's just a text image of 523 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: quote I used to I used to think, which is 524 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: cast spells over people. Now I understand the true which 525 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: is work only to gain power over themselves. They work 526 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: to accomplish self mastery, to achieve healing, wisdom, compassion, and freedom, 527 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: and to liberate themselves from the constraints that the world 528 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: or their upbringing have trapped them in. Magic is part 529 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: of this process of self awareness and liberation. Yeah, that's amazing. 530 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. That really resonated with me and 531 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: the bruhida that I'm trying to do. Right, it's not 532 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: there's such a negative association with bruhidia and being a 533 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: bruha um, but it's it's magic making and it's healing, 534 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: and it's personal and it's claiming and exercising your own power. 535 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: Even if that power is not considered legitimate or recognized 536 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: by the powers that be, I still have it and 537 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm still exercise exactly. So just looking at her Instagram 538 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: right now, her bio is so adorable. It's God goddess 539 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 1: things for God goddesses have made healing arts. UM and 540 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: she's really right. UM. She I met her or I 541 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: heard of her actually through some other in the fem 542 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: community that I'm in. UM. They wear her jewelry. And 543 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: then I stumbled upon her Instagram because she was tagged 544 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: in something UM and she's super great. I told her 545 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: what I what I wanted, you know, I told her, like, 546 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: I want something Rose Courts and I want something amethyst. 547 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: So we talked about it and she was like, Okay, 548 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: I this feels right, like this is what I'm going 549 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: to make you. This feels like what you need and yeah, 550 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: and it was a conversation. You know. It's she does 551 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: have an Etsy shop, so you can do that kind 552 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 1: of like click to buy um or you can have 553 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: a conversation with her because it is because everything is 554 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: custom made, made to order. It's not like this isn't 555 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: fucking forever twenty one, you know, like she's not gonna 556 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: have something readily available. So we talked about it and 557 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: I told her what I wanted and it was beautiful, 558 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: you know, and it was that kind of we were 559 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: having an exchanging energy in that way, even though it 560 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: was online, you know. And then yeah, it was an exchange. Um, 561 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, supporting a fem artist, fem Bruja of Color 562 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: and her work is just so amazing. So really I 563 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: encourage you all to check it out. Um she has rings, um, 564 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: ear rings, bracelets, a ton of things. I think that's 565 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: also something like that's so cool is so many of 566 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: the people that we're talking about not only are their 567 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: feminists or womanist mustas there, but they're also entrepreneurs. And 568 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: I think that talking about like the quote that you 569 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: just read about you know, having mastery over yourself, harnessing 570 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: your own power, I mean power in this world also 571 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: means you know, economic power, you know, harnessing your own 572 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: ability to generate income and serve and feed yourself and survive. 573 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: I think it's so important because if we're talking about 574 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: spirituality or bruer, I think it's not just feeding our souls, 575 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: but like our bodies and making sure that we're good. UM. 576 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: And somebody else that I love that I'm going to 577 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: talk about a lot on this podcast is about Dominican 578 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: um Zida Kelly right. Um. Dominica is a demand nickin 579 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: Afro Indigenous artists, critical thinker, social critic. She's everything, she's everything, 580 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: She's everything everything, She's awesome and UM, I have learned 581 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: so much from her about myself, about racial hierarchies within 582 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: Latin America, within um fem communities. UM. She has brought 583 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: so many people together, whether intentionally or not, because she 584 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: has created a space that was not there before where 585 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: she centers um Fem Afro Indigenous experiences and power and 586 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: love and bodies and all those beautiful things. And something 587 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: that's so interesting to me is the way that bad 588 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: Dominicana will talk about, you know, parts of life that 589 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: one might not automatically associate with with spirituality or with 590 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: indigenous practices. Like I remember she had this series of 591 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: tweets and she you know, she is a prolific twitter. 592 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: She there's a lot she that she has so much content, 593 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: so much knowledge there and I could go on and on, 594 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: but I remember since we're talking about Bruheia and you 595 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: know spirituality, Indigenous Afro Indigenous spirituality. I remember that there 596 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: was a series of tweets that she did where she 597 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: talked about how our idea of like parties, the way 598 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: that parties are set up today actually have very Afro 599 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Indigenous roots, because if you think about what do we 600 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: do in in the US today to have a good 601 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: time to have a party, well, usually dim lighting, dark lighting, 602 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: loud music with really loud bass underneath, dancing together in groups, 603 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: and drinking or smoking weed are taking mind altering substances, right, 604 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: And so she was basically breaking it down and saying, well, 605 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: if you really look like back in the day, back 606 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: in the day, I don't think you necessarily had, you know, 607 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: like the Spanish and the British, we're getting down like that. 608 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: But if you think about what we know about African 609 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: and Indigenous like ways of celebrating, drums have heavy bass. 610 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, whether you're you're sharing your your pipe or whatever, 611 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: your peyote or whatever it is, that whatever substance that 612 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: you're taking to induce your visions or your this or 613 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: your that. And then a lot of us dancing circles 614 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: like as amadon sante and so when we talk about 615 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: mischka or Aztec dancing, all of that is done in 616 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: a circle with sage burning and with heavy, heavy drums 617 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: the whole time. And so I thought that that was 618 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: so interesting because she's looking at these things that we 619 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: do every day that we don't even recognize that we're 620 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: participating in something that is ancestral. So after I read 621 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: those tweets, I was like, well, I'm gonna go party 622 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: all the time then, because this is ancestral, but you know, 623 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean reclaiming it. So I love about Dominicana so well, 624 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: I'll talk about her more in the future because there's 625 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: just so much there. And then another person that I 626 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: really love is in the her Mama. Yes, and you 627 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: know of Indie Mamma's work. I would love to go 628 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: to a womb wellness work. Yes, that maybe that I'm 629 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: going to put that into the university. You know what 630 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: we want you on as we do. If you if 631 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: you're listening, if you hear us, come find us, come 632 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: find will come find you. Yeah, a womb well this 633 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: workshop would be amazing. Yeah, And that's what Indie her 634 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: Mamma does. She does a lot of focus on womb 635 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: wellness and even like exercises to make sure your pelvic 636 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: floor is strong, you know, and womb massages and home 637 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: births and all that great stuff because as women and 638 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: as women of color, we know historically there's a lot 639 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,479 Speaker 1: of violence towards us and our wounds. Yes specifically, Yeah, 640 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this actually, um a few weeks ago, 641 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: because I this is actually is in reference to another 642 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: blueha I follow on Instagram, but she shared that she 643 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: um uses a Yoni egg. So that is like a 644 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: crystal that you and you can, you know, select whichever 645 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: crystal was right for you, right um, and depending on 646 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: the energy that you need, and you're starting searching for 647 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: in the healing um, so she uses a Yoni egg. 648 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: And then I started thinking about like the violence that 649 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: I've experienced and how my body remembers like violence you 650 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: know that has been inflicted upon me, especially like in 651 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: my womanhood, right um. And you know what kind of 652 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: healing needs to be done in that way. So that's 653 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: what I really like about. In the him Mamma and 654 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: other another Buddha are talking about boom. You know, so 655 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: much of that energy is taken from us and and 656 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: we think that maybe we're like we're recharging, we were 657 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: putting ourselves back together, but our body still remembers that 658 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: trauma is still has been absorbed, right, Yeah. And I 659 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: think of focusing for women of color, for Indigenous women, 660 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: to focus on our wounds is so powerful because I 661 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: think about this documentary that just came out recently about 662 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: the the women the mohea is here in l A 663 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: who were forcibly staring lives or sterilized without their knowledge. 664 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: And then I think of African American women, black women 665 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: who also went through for sterilization right or not being 666 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: told they were being sterilized, and that violence towards shutting 667 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: down the womb of the woman of color or you know, 668 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: depleting our body of resources that we need, or you know, 669 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: forcing us to have children that we don't want to have. Right, 670 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: there's all this historical violence towards the indigenous woman, the 671 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: black woman's womb. So for us in sixteen to intentionally 672 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: take care of our wombs ourselves, I think it's so incredible. 673 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: That's so beautiful, that's so powerful. There's so much like 674 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: Bruehidia magic making and that you know, conjuring all that 675 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: type of good light, for your womb, for your wound, 676 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: for yourself, for yourself, for yourself, for your being, so 677 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: that we can go on and on. And I think 678 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: what we'll do is maybe we'll list our favorite online brujans, 679 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: will list them on our Instagram on a post so 680 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: that you guys can go check out all these amazing 681 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: mohaes that we've just been talking about, get your life, 682 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: get your womanism, get all in one spot. And I 683 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: think that's what we'll do. And what we wanted to 684 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: to basically let you guys know is that our next episode, uh, yes, 685 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: our our third radio, we're going to be introducing you 686 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: guys to the Mommy Collective. Yes, and the Mommy Collective 687 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: is a group that we're a part of, the OSA 688 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: and I and it's a group of moheras here in 689 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: l A but also in Florida, um in Nashville. We're 690 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: all over the place that we're artists and writers and activists, feminists, poets. 691 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna introduce you guys to all those ladies 692 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: um during our third and then we wanted to invite 693 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: you guys to share with us your stories about Bruheria. Yes, 694 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: how have you reclaimed that term for you. What are 695 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: some of the spiritual practices that you engage in and 696 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: maybe if there's been any pushback, you know, any folks 697 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: telling you that you shouldn't be doing that, but you 698 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: do it anyway because you're and you do what you 699 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: want exactly. So you know, go over to our Instagram, 700 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: to our Instagram page and we'll put up a post 701 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: related to this, related to the online brew. So go 702 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: ahead and comment, tag us hashtag log though our radio 703 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: um and let us know. And if you aren't online 704 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: bruja that we didn't shout you out yet because there's 705 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: so many, please introduce yourself to us or tell us 706 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: who your favorite online bruja is. Yes, we have a 707 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: list of that we really like, like Mala said, and 708 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: we couldn't get to everybody. Yeah, so we know that 709 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: there are so many more out there, so shout out 710 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: to all of you and making our online space is safe, 711 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: putting that stage on our timeline. Thank you, Thank you radio. 712 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: So okay, so so we'll see you next We'll see 713 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: you next time. Thank you for listening. 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