1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Box Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: It's Thursday. There's football tonight, Week ten of the National 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Football League season, starting the second half. Welcome in a 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: lot to get to, including Carry Rhodes taking victory laps 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: around this table here, Yes, victory laps. As the Kyler 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Murray era is taking quite the turn in Arizona. It's 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: been the talk of the NFL. Very rarely do you 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: get the Arizona Cardinals leading shows. Very rarely do you 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: get the Arizona Cardinals being the talk of the town. 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: That is what's happening is Kyler Murray's on injured reserve, 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: Weresett is now the starter, and Carrie Rhodes was apparently. 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Right all along. Yeah, Kyler Murray was. He's just not 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: the guy. He's not a guy that's gonna be a 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: leader for you. He's not gonna be a guy that's 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: going to galvanize the troops for you. So if he's 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: not playing at a level that you cannot sit him 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: where we saw in a couple a couple years ago, 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: right where he played really well. He was a pro bowler, 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: and you kind of look past some of the deficiencies 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: or some of the things that he wasn't really good at. 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: But when all those things come to fruition and your 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: play is not elevating the team alongside with the leadership 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: stuff and the stuff that we know, and I've seen 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: just from Afar not even being a part of the 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: organization or being there every day, you could tell he's 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: not a guy that galvanizes the guys. He's not a 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: guy that's gonna go do the extra work and sit 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: down with the Marvin Harris and the guy that you 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: want to be your leading number one receiver. He's not 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: going to do the extra things to make sure he 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: elevates that guy. He's only worried about himself, it seems like. 37 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: And so when that happens, and then you hit a 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: snag where you're injured now and somebody steps in that 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: position and actually executes the offense the way it's supposed 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: to look and also was making Marvin Harrison. 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: Look like a number one receiver. Then you know there's 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 4: an issue. 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: So I want to backtrack because Karry and I do 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: the show on Sunday afternoons end Zone Radio five Eastern, 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: two Pacific. 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: Ye. 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: And it's not meant to disrespect Kyler Murray. Just have 48 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: never been a fan. And you kind of laid out 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: some of the reasons why I think people dismissed Kyler 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: Murray or didn't believe in Kyler Murray solely because of 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: his height or lack thereof. But that was never the 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: issue with you at all. No. 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: No, you say, like we saw that two years well 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: maybe two three, ill no longer it's been now, but 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: two or three years ago when he was a pro bowler, 56 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: we weren't talking about that then. I mean, obviously everybody 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: comes into the league with some sort of deficiency, and 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: for him, obviously it was glaring that he was a 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: smaller guy, right, and so it would always fall back 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: on that if he wasn't playing well. And then you 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: start getting the leaks and you started hearing things about 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: they have to put a study clause in his contract, 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: which is ridiculous, and a no game and like things 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: that your quarterback, your leaders should never have to be addressed. 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: And so when those things started coming out, that for 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: me is a bigger thing because again, all of us 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: have deficiencies. I was a guy that was not super 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: physical when I first came out, so I had to 69 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: work on that, right, Like, there are certain things about 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: going into a league and having no ego, having a 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: healthy ego, and say I'm really good at this, but 72 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm not good at this yet, and so how do 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: you get better at that? And we've seen it, we've 74 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: seen where they put the clause in this contract to 75 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: now and we're still having the same conversation. So if 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: that's the case, then he's just not the guy. 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: This is the point where I think you were pointing 78 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: out where Kyler Murray had success was in the twenty 79 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 2: twenty one season. That's for you. It's been a while, 80 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: it's been a while. They made it to a wild 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: card game. They started out to see in pretty well, 82 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: pretty strong. I think they were seven and at one 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: point that season and ended up making the playoffs. And 84 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: it was immediately after that that Kyler Murray then wanted 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: his new contract because that would have he was drafted 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen would have been his thirty years, so 87 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: that was the first year he was eligible to get 88 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: a contract extension. I remember it vividly of being at 89 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in Los Angeles Radio Row that week 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: and the topic of conversation being Kyler Murray has scrubbed 91 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals from his social media. 92 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: You know what. 93 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: You know what took me by surprise in that scenario 94 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: was that we were at the Super Bowl for a 95 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: team that just three weeks prior, we're playing in a 96 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: playoff game, so it hadn't even been three weeks old, 97 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: and he had already started this contract negotiation with the team. 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: That's what was was surprising to me was as soon 99 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: as he became eligible. I don't even know if he 100 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: technically was still eligible or would have been eligible. So 101 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: this season actually ended, but we knew that offseason he 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: could get an extension. But he didn't even waste any 103 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: time for the Super Bowl to be played to already 104 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: you know, show his displeasure and people had a bad 105 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: taste in their mouth with Miles Garrett doing what he 106 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: did last year with the Browns and saying hey, I 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: want out and talking with teams and going to Super 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Bowl week and speaking to the media and people throwing 109 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: out teams, all, yeah, I'd love to play in Washington. 110 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: That'd be a great place like that didn't That didn't 111 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: sit well with a lot of people. So it didn't 112 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: sit well with me when Kyler Murray took the first 113 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: second there, like he's he's outside best Buy on Thanksgiving 114 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: night at eight o'clock, you know, ready for the Black 115 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: Friday deals to open. He's the first in line to 116 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: go and do it. That's what set me off. That said, huh, 117 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: not that he wasn't going to get a new contract, 118 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: but there was there was no reason to be so 119 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: dramatic in that step. And so that that's for me 120 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: what what turned with Kyler Murray. And then it just 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: feels like things have really plateaued, and if they haven't plateaued, 122 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: they've gone down, because they sure haven't gone up. That's 123 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: always been my issue Kyler Murray as of late. 124 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean at that time, Dan people were there were 125 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: people in the media and people around the league saying 126 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: I might take Kyler Murvy of Lamar Jackson. Remember those conversations, Yeah, ridiculous, 127 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: But the fact that that was a conversation at that time. 128 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: It just shows me that there's a lot of people 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: out there that aren't real in depth with their ball. 130 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: Knowing now, people have great seasons all the time, and 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: it's always about when you have that great season and 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: you have that new contract, who are you? Because once 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: you get that new contract, we're gonna know who you are. 134 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: Like the guys that are really great and really care 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: about their craft, that's not the end of it, Like 136 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: that's just part of a milestone, that's a stepping stone 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: to a better life and all those things. But I 138 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: want to be considered one of the best to do it. 139 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: And so when you get to the point of having 140 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: those expectations put on you, that's when you really find 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: out who people are. And with Kyler Murray, we've seen 142 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: that you said it. He was very eager to get 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: that deal done. But we also when I all that, 144 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: I had no doubt about where he was going after that. 145 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: It wasn't he was going to the next level. I 146 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: was like, he's done, sure, because he's also had baseball asparations, right, 147 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: He's had other things that he's looked at and was 148 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: supposed to be really good at as well. So I 149 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: never really believed in what he could be long term 150 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: with the quarterback. 151 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: What do you believe in the comments that were said 152 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: this week, because this is now where the Kyler Murray 153 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: saga has taken an interesting turn, where Jonathan Gannon had 154 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: this to say earlier about Kyler Murray about his injury 155 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: and what the future, the immediate future holds for the quarterback. 156 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 6: Today, Kyler is going to go on IR. Feel like 157 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 6: that's the best thing for him and for us. He's 158 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 6: not fully healthy ready to go yet, so that makes 159 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 6: the most sense. Obviously that's a change, but we just felt, 160 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 6: you know, looking at it right now, that's the best 161 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 6: thing for him and us. 162 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: Like I just said, that was Jonathan Gannon yesterday talking 163 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 2: about to move to place Kyler Murray on IR. There's 164 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: more to this. There's a bigger thought. Why would Kyler Murray? 165 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Why would Kyler Murray be placed on injured reserve and 166 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: need four more weeks to heal carry rhades When it 167 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: was just days prior to their game against the Cowboys 168 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: that there were reports coming out that Kyler Murray could 169 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: see action against Dallas on Monday night. 170 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 7: Uh huh? 171 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 2: Why are we getting this mixed message from Arizona that 172 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: just days later, when Kyler Murray was about to return 173 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: from his foot injury. Now not only is he not 174 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: going to play in week ten, he's not going to 175 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: play for the next four weeks. Yeah, something doesn't add up. 176 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: Yes, the internal conversations inside that locker room, inside that 177 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: war room is a little bit different than what they're 178 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: giving out right. I could see a scenario where the 179 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: offensive coordneta really likes the way that Jacobe Brissett runs 180 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: his offense. 181 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: Because if you're in the hot seat as a head coach. 182 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: As a GM, as an offensive coordinator, whatever it is, 183 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: your job's on the line in the interim right now, 184 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett gives him the best opportunity to win. He's 185 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: going to get everybody the ball, He's going to be 186 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: on time, on target, and the offense looks like the 187 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: way that the offensive coordinator wants it to look. And 188 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: you have Jonathan Gannon, Jonathan Gannon as a head coach 189 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: going out and doing this making his comments. There was 190 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: a disconnect there between the owner head coach GM because 191 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: he's talking out of turn. And then you have to 192 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: come back and you got to fix that a little bit. 193 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: You gotta do a little damage control. And I think 194 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: all these things say what I think about Arizona right now. 195 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: In general, they are disfunctional. And that's where I'll leave it. 196 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: And I'll leave it for you, Dan. That's the rest. 197 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: That's okay. 198 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: I got another question. You got what you got? Were 199 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: the drops by Marvin Irrison Junior earlier this season? Really 200 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: the fault of Marvin Harrison Junior. Now that we know 201 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: what we know, can we really blame the wide receiver 202 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: for dropping a football against the forty nine ers having 203 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: an awful interception against the Green Bay Packers? Can we 204 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: for dropping a pass? Can we really blame Marvin Harrison. 205 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: Junior for this? 206 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: We can? Oh, we're not gonna We're not. We're not 207 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: just dumping on Kyler here. No, Marvin Harrison was definitely 208 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: not doing high and well in certain points as well 209 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: in this season. 210 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: So the drops by Marvin Harrison weren't because of the 211 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: relationship with Kyler Murray. They were a Marvin Harrison issue. 212 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: Oh. 213 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison definitely started out thinking way too much, and 214 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: you could tell by the way he was running his 215 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: routes there was no decisiveness, but also the decisiveness comes 216 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: in part with the tandem of the quarterback and receiver. 217 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 4: There is carry over there. 218 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: So you're saying it's because of Kyler Murray in part 219 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. Okay, what you got? What's going on here, Daniel? 220 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 4: What's going on? 221 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: I just am saying you, like, why does Marvin Harrison 222 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: set a career high with three first quarter targets? 223 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 6: Oh? 224 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: I know if I would have told you on Sunday 225 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: during our show that Marvin Harrison's career high for receptions 226 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: of the game was six, you wouldn't have believed me. 227 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 8: I would not have, but I would have. You wouldn't 228 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 8: have believed me. This is I think it's partially due 229 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 8: to Kyler Murray. 230 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: It is. 231 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: I agree with you. 232 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: I agree with and I think that Marvin Harrison Junior 233 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: is looking at Kyler Murray as the quarterback that is paid. 234 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: That is the amusing the air quotes. The leader of 235 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: the team put so much pressure on himself that he 236 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: ended up making those mistakes. I get it, you're paid 237 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: to catch the football. But that receiver that we saw 238 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: putting drama playing a blender on Monday night, that's him 239 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: was not the one that we saw in San Francisco 240 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: earlier on in this. 241 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: Season, they were not on the same page at all. 242 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: And you know why, Dan Kyler Murray is a guy 243 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: that likes to play off platform. Right, he can't see, 244 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: so when he's in the pocket, he misses windows. He 245 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: throws the balls late, he throws the ball where Marvin 246 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: Harrison probably wouldn't be expecting the ball to be thrown. Right, 247 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: All those things really matter. Right, So if I'm running 248 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: ten yards and I'm running an in breaking route across 249 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: the middle, and I'm expecting to be thrown in that 250 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: first window and you throw it in the second window, 251 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: that is a difference. So one hundred percent part of 252 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: the drops work Kyler. But as a receiver, if the 253 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: ball touches your hands, you gotta touch it. So there's 254 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: there's fault to be on both of them. 255 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 9: Okay, why then, why then? Why then? Why then? Why then? 256 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Why then did they place him on injured reserve and 257 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: not just bench Kyler Murray? Because if you kept him 258 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: on injury reserve for the rest of the season, you 259 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: can say, hey, injury wise, but there's probably injury guarantees 260 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: in the contract. Why not just bench Kyler Murray In 261 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: favor of Jacoby Brissette. If Kyler Murray was so close 262 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: to playing on Monday Night. 263 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: They are trying to save face as an organization. 264 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 4: They're trying to appease to some of the people. 265 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: That may like Kyler Murray on that team, right, And 266 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: so there's a level of, like I said, they've been 267 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: doing a little backpedaling to control the situation because you 268 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: just said it. 269 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: If Kyler Murray. 270 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: Feels like the victim, something else is gonna come from 271 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: this as well. He's not gonna be one to hold 272 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: his tongue and that will cause confusion dissension among the team. 273 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: So does that answer for you? 274 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: Dan? 275 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: What you got? 276 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: This is what This is what I think happens. This 277 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: is what I think happens. They're going to give Jacoby 278 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: Brissett four weeks where he's the man. He hasn't been 279 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: the man the last couple of weeks. Even though he's 280 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: been the starting quarterback, he's been the replacement. Jacoby Brissett 281 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: for his solid of a career that he has had 282 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: has not been able to handle or has not been 283 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: able to hold onto a job as a starting quarterback 284 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: in the NFL. True, this absolves them from pushing Kyler 285 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: Murray back and putting him in a bad situation where 286 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: the fans are calling for Jacoby Brissett. They're almost in 287 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: a way allowing Jacoby Brissett the opportunity to fail. So 288 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: when he if he doesn't come through, then guess what. 289 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: Kyler's fully healthy. Kyler has a new code of paint 290 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: on him. He's looked at as a different quarterback. If 291 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett leads this team to four straight victories and 292 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: now they're in the playoff hunt, who cares about what 293 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray feels. I think that that's why Arizona did 294 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: what they did. I think that is I think that 295 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: is why Arizona did what they did. It is to 296 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: put Jacoby Brissett in the spotlight, a spot, a place 297 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: where he hasn't thrived. But if he does, it's a 298 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: win for Arizona. If he doesn't, guess who can come 299 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: into the rescue or doesn't look as bad anymore. It's 300 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. 301 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: Great point, And I'm also going to say this, when 302 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: you put Jacoby Brissett in that position as the lead dog, 303 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: there are quarterbacks and players in the league that are 304 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: really good relief pitchers right, Yes, but when you have 305 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: to be a starting pitcher or starting quarterback is starting 306 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: whatever it is. The ability to go through that game 307 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: knowing that everybody is looking at you to actually be 308 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: the savior, the guy that's going to lead us to 309 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: where we need to go to the pumise land. That's 310 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: a different energy, but in the same breath, we know 311 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: this and you know this for sure because you're high 312 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: on you were high on Arizona. Yes, and what they 313 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: could do. Think about the games they lost with Kyler 314 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: Murray at quarterback. They could have won all three of 315 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: those four of those games that they lost. And so 316 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: they're right there if they operate at a level that 317 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: it needs to be operated at. And I think I 318 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: really do believe that Gannon and their GM they're in 319 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: this together and they need to win now. So as 320 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: far as putting Kobe Bissett in the position to fail 321 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: or to succeed, I agree with it. 322 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: But they're banking on him to succeed. 323 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: The Arizona Cardinals, you could make an argument, as crazy 324 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: as it sounds, could be undefeated. Yes, that's what I'm 325 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: telling you. Yeah, the three and five they gave up 326 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: the comeback to the Titans. Never should have happened. Yep, 327 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: Amario de Marcado. The Colts, Jason Stewart, and I remember 328 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: the Colts game. They're driving down the field a goal 329 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: to gold situation, down by four, they don't score. An 330 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: awful decision by Jonathan Gannon to go for it against 331 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers that sets them up for their score. 332 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: Yep. 333 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: They lost against the forty nine Ers sixteen to fifteen 334 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: in a game where they had a lead late on 335 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: the safety and couldn't end up converting on it. 336 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: Like this is. 337 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: They came back against the Seahawks and the Seahawks one 338 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: on the last second field goal to win. Like there 339 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: are all these situations that that Arizona could be really 340 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: really good. Half the least, the Colts and Packers game 341 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: against two really good teams, arguably the best teams in 342 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: the National Football League, and jo Kobe Brissett had them 343 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: within a score and an opportunity to win. Yeah, Jason Stewart, 344 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: do you remember that Colts game in what was happening 345 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals? 346 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 7: I do, because a lot of us had the Colts 347 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 7: and our survivor a real close attention to those final 348 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 7: seconds Oh my goodness. 349 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 2: We were texting back and form like he's gonna take 350 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: them down the field, They're gonna score. 351 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 10: This is the best of the Don Dot Leap Show 352 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 10: on Fox Sports Radio. 353 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: In Old AFC West Showdown tonight in the Mile High City. 354 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: Raiders and Broncos get things going in week ten. Welcome in. 355 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: It is the Doug Gottlieb Show hit Carry up at 356 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: Carry twenty five ro olds. You can find me at 357 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: Dan Bayer on Fox in a week Carry. 358 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 9: Well. 359 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: There aren't a lot of huge spreads in the National 360 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: Football League, closer games than you would have had maybe 361 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: in a couple of other weeks. Tonight you've got the 362 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: biggest spread of all the games that are going to 363 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: be played in week ten, nine and a half in 364 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: favor of the Broncos. You've got Detroit an eight and 365 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: a half favorite on the road against the Commanders, who 366 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: are playing obviously without Jayden Daniels. But you got a 367 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: lot of two and a half, he got some four 368 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: and a half, he got some one and a half. 369 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: Should be a very competitive week in the NFL in 370 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: Week ten. 371 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're usually all one score games, and so even 372 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: when those sprants get to that double digit mode. 373 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: I never really feel safe with any of those picks 374 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: up her. So it could be a season where you 375 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: have a team that's a wild card team and ends 376 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: up running the table and going to the super Bowl 377 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: and winning a super Bowl. It's happened before, it's happened recently. 378 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: Maybe it'll happen again here in twenty twenty five. 379 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about it. This season seems very wide open. 380 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: You know, we have bursts of teams playing really acceptional football, 381 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: but then most for the most part, it's been averaging, 382 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: so meaning teams haven't had that killer instinct yet and 383 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: so for them to get to this point in the 384 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: season with the halfway mark, I think we're gonna start 385 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: stands separation a little bit here as we move forward. 386 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: And I remember the Pittsburgh Steelers when they, unfortunately for me, 387 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: beat my Seahawks and Super Bowl forty, that crazy run 388 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: with Ben Roethlisberger in his second year, and they all 389 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: asked the Colts in the divisional playoffs and they went 390 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: to Denver and ended up knocking off the Broncos before 391 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: the refs allowed them to win Super Bowl forty. But 392 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: there was a there was a road warrior mentality for 393 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh that year, and it helped them bring home a 394 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: Super Bowl crowd similar to Arizona. 395 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: Arizona was close to doing that same thing, got to 396 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: the championship game and lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers again 397 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 3: and that Super Bowl. So yeah, it definitely can't happen 398 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: where teams get hot and make that run. 399 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: I know it's happened before, but as it happened in 400 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: twenty ten. 401 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 10: Don't call it a throwback. 402 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: Thy and Stuart's our executive producer, Manci Blanios is here, 403 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: as is Iowa Sam hanging out Jason. 404 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: Take it away, Thank you, Dan. I'll take it from here. 405 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 6: I'll take it here. 406 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 7: Something extremely happened, extremely exciting, happened sixteen years ago, almost 407 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 7: to the date. I'm gonna I mean, I'm just gonna 408 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 7: set the scene a little bit. Twenty ten, second week 409 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 7: in November, first week in November, the Arizona Cardinals, I think, 410 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 7: visited the Minnesota Vikings at ten twenty in the first quarter. 411 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 7: As Brett fav was breaking back to pass towards Greg Lewis, 412 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 7: the ball is intercepted by Carrie Roads. What intercepted by. 413 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: Carrie told me this. 414 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: I don't talk about everything, Dan, I don't give myself 415 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: too much. 416 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 7: But it doesn't stop there, Dan, Carrie. Carrie returns the 417 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 7: ball sixty six yards sixtys what against Brett farv This 418 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 7: doesn't end well, only for the ball to be charged 419 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 7: loose by Greg Camerrillo FuMO recovery Vikings. 420 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: Hey, it was bad too. 421 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: I had to go back out on defense. I don't 422 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: want to do that. I was tired. 423 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 7: Sixteen years ago, almost to the day, Carrie, What do 424 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 7: you remember about that game, other than that amazing play 425 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 7: where you intercept a Hall of Famer? 426 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just remember it wasn't that was my first 427 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: time intercepting them. But it was my first time fumbling 428 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: the ball in the end zone. But I didn't. It 429 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: wasn't for me trying to reach out or do anything 430 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: like dropping the ball. Early Camarillo came and got me 431 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: and he just stripped it at the goal line. I 432 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: was so upset too because we had to go back 433 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: on defense. 434 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 4: I was tired. 435 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: Can you imagine it right now in your mind as 436 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: it's happening, of being. 437 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: I know what I did wrong and everything I was like, 438 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: I picked it off, made the first guy missed. I'm 439 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: running down down the sideline. Two people are coming to 440 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: get the angle on me, and I cut back on them. 441 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: And when I cut back, I was clear. But that 442 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: cutback gave Camarillo time to get back into play from behind. 443 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: And so it was a tough one. 444 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: Coach gave me grief all year about it too, every 445 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: time hold it high and tight care I was like, listen. 446 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 7: Well, the good news is you didn't need those points 447 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 7: because you lost by three and over Tommon to the Vikings. 448 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 7: And I want to say, the biggest humble Bragg maybe 449 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 7: in the history of this show, happened two minutes ago 450 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 7: when Carrie, in the middle of telling the story, just 451 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 7: said that wasn't the only time I intercepted Hall of 452 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 7: Famer Brett Farr. 453 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: Did you yell as you were running down the sidelines, 454 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: like give me my own office, give me my own 455 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: locker room, because that's what he had when Farvis with 456 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: the Jets. 457 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: That's right, So he did not. 458 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: They didn't. Farve didn't change with the the common Jets players. 459 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: Starved, not Chay. 460 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: And I told you before, I love Brett, So Brett's 461 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: Brett was a cool guy for me, and so to 462 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 3: pick him off again was pretty pretty cool for sure. 463 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: I gotta find this highlight. You don't I thought I 464 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: liked you guys too. We're going to start with that 465 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: and the throw back twenty. 466 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: Ten they named a town not far from here after 467 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: Greg Camio after that play. I've got outlets and yeah, 468 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: everyone exactly. 469 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 9: Oh man. 470 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: It was in twenty ten that the green Bay Packers 471 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: did what I was saying. They got on a run, 472 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: ended up winning the Super Bowl later on the next year, 473 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: but in twenty ten, they weren't the team that we 474 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: thought that they needed to be. They had to go 475 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 2: on a winning streak at the end of the seasons 476 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: you can get into the postseason. I remember I was 477 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: at the game at lambeau Field when they beat the 478 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: New York Giants in the second to last week of 479 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: the season, kind of started their winning streak and then 480 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: lo and behold, they go on and win the Super 481 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: Bowl title. But Green Bay was not a lock. They 482 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: were good. And then it was the next year where 483 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: they had the one loss season, but we're upset in 484 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: the playoffs by the Giants. But it was a regular 485 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: season game against the Giants in twenty ten that I 486 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: was at lambeau Field that they ended up starting their run. 487 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: I just want to thank you guys for allowing all 488 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 3: the trauma and the PSD to PTSD to come up. 489 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: Right now, I'm sake and thinking about being that close 490 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: to having another time. 491 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: This is this is why Jason Stewart is the best 492 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: at what he does. I thought something happened in the 493 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Broncos Raiders rivalry because it's usually tied to that night's 494 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: game or that night's matchup, but completely different. 495 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: It's just yeah, I was easy, easy topic fodder today. 496 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 4: Thank you, Jason. 497 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 7: It was such a gem because you know when I 498 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 7: when I try to find specific things to start the uh, 499 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 7: don't call it a throwback. I always look for specific 500 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 7: moments or just familiar names. And I can't believe I 501 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 7: came across this gym our very own Carrie Rhodes with 502 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 7: a remarkable play. And I just want to make this clear. 503 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 7: He did not pick Brett Farva off just once. No, 504 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 7: that's just multiple times, multiple times. Sam, do you remember 505 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 7: anything from twenty ten? I want to I want the 506 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 7: listeners to go back to twenty ten. What were you 507 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 7: doing in twenty ten? 508 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 5: We were in the. 509 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 7: Middle of Obama's what second Oh no, no, the first term. Yeah, 510 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 7: before the midterms. Actually, I think he was able to 511 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 7: do some stuff. Sam, what do you remember most about. 512 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: Tire we Go? 513 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 11: I mean I was, I was paying close attention to 514 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 11: those Packers. I just want to I remember if Rogers 515 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 11: suffered a concussion and a loss of seventy three loss 516 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 11: to the Lions. This was in Detroit, and then yeah, 517 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 11: they took another loss to the Patriots, and then they 518 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 11: reeled off two wins to get into the postseason. 519 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: So basically what I just said. 520 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 11: Yes, but they was out the concussion, so it was 521 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 11: a little bit of I think they finished ten and 522 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 11: six and then then they started their their run to 523 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 11: a championship. What was I doing? Very disappointed in Hawkeye football. 524 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 11: They were supposed to win it all, win the Big Ten, 525 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 11: at least be very good in twenty ten, but they 526 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 11: disappointed us and finished eight and five, though with a 527 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 11: win over rank Missouri team and the Inside dot Com 528 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 11: how about that eight and five? Mike a Hide with 529 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 11: a pick six in that game. 530 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: Just to kind of piggyback off that. I remember that 531 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: season the Packers. They started out the air with a 532 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: win against the Eagles and then they ended up I'm 533 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: totally just. 534 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 11: Yeah right here, actually started out three and one. 535 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: All right, MATSI do you remember overtime about twenty ten 536 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: in the Packers season That I'm kidding. 537 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 12: In twenty ten in college, I was not worried about 538 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 12: the Packers. 539 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 5: That is the last thing. 540 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 11: I was already round. 541 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: I was still in school. 542 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, I was in college talking smack maybe about Lebron 543 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 12: James and his decision because I was like, stink Cleveland, 544 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 12: stink Cleveland, Just why are you gonna go? I was 545 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 12: a fan of Lebron at this time, so I did 546 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 12: not I did not want him to make that move 547 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 12: because I thought it was very like, why are you 548 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 12: doing the taking an easier route here? 549 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: My god? 550 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 11: Stay? 551 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 12: And so that's definitely something I was doing you while 552 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 12: enjoying a cocktail. 553 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: How nervous he was where he did like his head 554 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: shake like I'm gonna take my talents to South Beach 555 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: and play for the Miami Heat. And he had this 556 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: nervous tick where he just nodded feverishly, like almost trying 557 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: to convince himself that he was doing the right thing. 558 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, it was a little awkward, a little a little. 559 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little. 560 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 4: It was. 561 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: It was so awkward that I think it's some of 562 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: the greatest TV we've actually ever had. And I wish that, honestly, 563 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 2: I've said it. I wish more free Agents would do this. 564 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: It completely ripped the heart out of Cleveland. 565 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 11: It really did, right like it really did. 566 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: That's like taking your date or fiance and you're about 567 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: to get married. Zara can't do it. I'm gonna leave 568 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: with that girl and leading the wedding. That's what he did. 569 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: He brought everybody there to see what he wanted to do, 570 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: and then he ended up breaking their hearts. 571 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 7: And this fall, I'm going to take my talents to 572 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 7: South Beach. 573 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 11: Where is he going to take his talents now? 574 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 12: Because the Lakers don't want him? 575 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: The Cairo fixed that. Sciatica, Yeah fixed the Sciatica. 576 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 577 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 2: Turn on your Side twenty ten was one of the 578 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: greater runs, one of the final fours. We talked a 579 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: lot about on The Doug Gottlieb Show. It's when Butler 580 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: made it to the National Championship Game and my dookies 581 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: college hoops and Yeah, Duke ended up surviving, but they 582 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: were a half court he from Gordon Hayward away from 583 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: possibly the greatest upset that we had we had seen 584 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament, and that ball was online. 585 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, hit the backboard, hit the hit the front rim 586 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 4: and almost went in. 587 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 588 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: That was a big, one, magnificent scene in Indianapolis where 589 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Butler's located. To be able to play in front of 590 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: that many fans and have that sort of drama against 591 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: the team of college basketball, Yeah, it was huge. 592 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: Twenty ten for me was one of the watermark moments 593 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: in my career. I was actually out here in LA 594 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: I was training for the twenty ten season, coming off 595 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: an AFC Championship run with the Jets. You know, I'm 596 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: here training getting ready for the season, and I come 597 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: home from workout. I'm sitting in front of the TV. 598 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: I have a million myth calls. I have no idea 599 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: why I'm turn on the ESPN, And the first thing 600 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: that comes across the bottom of the ticker on the 601 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 3: ESPN it says, no, none, no, none, this jet has 602 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: flown the coop And I. 603 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Was like, Whi's jet? 604 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: And it was me. 605 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: I got trad Arizona in twenty ten, and so that 606 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: was the birth of me and the Cardinals. 607 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised to say this. Uh you know this 608 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: jet has hit the roads, you. 609 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 5: Know, something like that. 610 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: It could have been more clever. 611 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, carry on right or a new game? What 612 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: early fall spring twenty twenty six. We got a new 613 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: game coming up, Jason with Carry Roads. 614 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 7: I don't know if I want to give it away 615 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 7: yet beginning, Okay, all right? 616 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 11: In fact, you know what, fair enough, I did want 617 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 11: to I love the ts. 618 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a feeling I know what Carry Rhodes 619 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 7: was listening to that day when he had all the 620 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 7: miss calls, because he was listening to this banger from 621 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 7: twenty ten that everyone. 622 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Loved, not only times tib was. 623 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 6: There on you. 624 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: Nothing on your Bank. 625 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 7: I'm guessing Carrie Rose is the one person in the 626 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 7: studio that could hit the note, just hit in that 627 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 7: famous chorus. That's Bob top the charts for seven weeks 628 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 7: and twenty ten. H I love this song about you guys, 629 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 7: but I think all of us made out with our 630 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 7: significant other many times to this tune. 631 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: Don't know about you guys. 632 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: Bruno mars Is the is the quintessential like rock stop 633 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: pop star. I think he's the most talented guy that's going. 634 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 11: Right of the dancer too. Yeah, yeah, he's super naturally. 635 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 11: He's trying exactly, which is annoying. Like I don't even 636 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 11: think you're trying to sing. I think it just comes out. 637 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 11: It's so good, it's so good, so good. 638 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 7: I mean, you can speak to this, isn't He kind 639 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 7: of like Prince and the Can he play all yes, 640 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 7: all the instruments, yes, and hit all the notes yes, 641 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 7: I mean, and phenomenal time. 642 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 11: And I remember he hosted SNL. He was hilarious, he 643 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 11: was great, He was great. He can many towns, many towns. 644 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: For I wasn't a huge fan of Bruno Mars. Yeah, 645 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: to be quite honest, I don't know. I just never 646 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: never took to it. But seeing a super Bowl halftime 647 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: performance he was the halftime performance in the Seahawks went 648 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: over the Broncos in New Jersey and it was a 649 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: really really good show. Yeah, it was for just the 650 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes that it was. 651 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 11: He had like a tiny, little circular stage and he 652 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 11: was just like little, you know, fire feet. 653 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: It was amazing. No, he's amazing, for sure. 654 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely a great year in music, TVs, movies. 655 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 13: I know, I got I got nothing. I just know 656 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 13: that's usual. I haven't even gotten my dog about this. 657 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 13: Got to my Gulf Doug when you need him for 658 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 13: the movie recap. No, I need Dan to get to 659 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 13: his golf as we effort the pop culture. So this 660 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 13: is what happened in golf. Phil Nicholson won his third 661 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 13: and final Masters of his career in twenty ten. I 662 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 13: was fortunate enough to be at Augusta National that Sunday 663 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 13: when he won. And it was also the return of 664 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 13: Tiger Woods post scandals. Yes, I did not expect that 665 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 13: from Monzie because Tiger Woods winning the twenty nineteen Masters 666 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 13: was an absolute love fest. In twenty ten, he was 667 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 13: either Tiger Woods, the great golfer or the scumbag who 668 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 13: cheated on his wife. One yes, and with all these women. 669 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 13: And as he was walking down the fifteenth fairway on Sunday, 670 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 13: half of the grand stand that I was in stood 671 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 13: and applauded like they would for many a Master's champion. 672 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 13: Others sat and did nothing. 673 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: Really, it was so eerie because it was it's freaking 674 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. But you have to remember at that time 675 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: how toxic everything was around Tiger. Yeah, and then you 676 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: fast forward to him winning in twenty nineteen and it's 677 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: an absolute love fest. But at that time, Tiger Woods 678 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: was viewed by many as the cheater and that scandal 679 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: was his return in twenty ten. 680 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: And the crazy part about that is he cheated on 681 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: his wife. It's tough and we know it's wrong, but 682 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: he didn't hurt it all. He didn't hurt it all. 683 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: He didn't do anything like that. 684 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: Was the problem people had were I think the number 685 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: of women, Yeah, and also him trying to portray him 686 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: being a family man and using and then that going on. 687 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 4: That's what I think a lot of people. Was he 688 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: portraying it or did we see it that way? 689 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: You think he was actually giving that off like I'm 690 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: the family man Tiger or were we given that to him? 691 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: I think that. I think that, I think that he 692 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: you think so? 693 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, I also think that the reaction of his 694 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 7: wife just like inflated the controversy. It's almost like with 695 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 7: these athletes, wife, you know what you're signing up for 696 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 7: kinda and they don't. They don't add to the drama 697 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 7: when this comes up. But she went full bore, like 698 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 7: she was extremely offended and shocked that it happened, and 699 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 7: it didn't. It didn't help his cause. 700 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and because she was tied in like with the 701 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: golf community with players, because she was a nanny to 702 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: Yesper Parnovic, who is a player, introduced to Tiger. You know, 703 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: so some people felt really like, oh, geez, I'm the 704 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: one that brought her into this, you know, into this world. 705 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: They felt, you know, very turned back and yeah, what 706 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: a Lebron's decision and wow, and the scandal of the time. 707 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 2: Tiger got busted in late two thousand and nine, but 708 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: then his return ended up coming in twenty ten. 709 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 7: Speaking of drama, and I'm gonna start talking about scripted drama, 710 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 7: all right, this is one of Montsi's favorites. She brings 711 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 7: us one up a lot. Modern Family came a major 712 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 7: sensation in twenty ten. It started in twenty two thousand 713 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 7: and nine, twenty ten. It just it kind of hit. 714 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 7: It strive and a big deal. 715 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 12: It's so good. The early seasons are so good. The 716 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 12: later seasons you just watch because you've been watching so 717 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 12: you want to see how it is. 718 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: The kids being older, they're not as. 719 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 11: Funny, they're not as good. 720 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 12: Hailey is great, but Hailey was already like a teenager 721 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 12: like older teenager, she's great, but the kids as they 722 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 12: get older. You know, you know, a great show, great show, 723 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 12: And you're right the beginning the first episode. You know 724 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 12: how typically pilots suck, yes, like because they're figuring it out. 725 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 11: Right, Hey they fly our planes. Come on, you're specful. 726 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 5: And now the. 727 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 11: Conversation, Yes, that was what let's talk about that. 728 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: There were The Office was another one with Steve Carrell, 729 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: like where their first six episodes were so good, but 730 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: Maazi's right. The pilot for the family excellent. Chef's Kiss Wait, 731 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: what made that's still so good? I never watched it. 732 00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 4: It crazy. 733 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 12: It's it's the writing and the you can't I just 734 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 12: don't think you can teach comedy. It's about timing, you 735 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 12: know what I mean. And all of them just got 736 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 12: I don't know if the editing was the one that 737 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 12: made it, but I don't. I think it was just them, 738 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 12: like they just all clicked. And Phil who is Phil Dumphy, 739 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 12: I can't think of his. 740 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 11: Name, ty Berrelle. 741 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 12: He normally did dramas. This is the first time he 742 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 12: ever did a comedy and they there was like very 743 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 12: split on him, Like people were like, he's not the 744 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 12: guy at someone else. They recorded the scene at the 745 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 12: end of the pilot where he shoots Hayley's boyfriend with 746 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 12: the baby gun on an iPhone to show the people, 747 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 12: look at how good this guy is, and that's how 748 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 12: they booked him off of an iPhone. 749 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: Well, in comedies you need the straight man, so if 750 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: he played a straight man well to what they're doing, 751 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: it will work. 752 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 5: Yes. 753 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: Can I tell you what my favorite Modern Family I'm 754 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: not gonna say because the joke is whatever, but it's 755 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: when Dylan sings is I just want to do you 756 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: saw Yes, yeah, and then but the end is all 757 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: of them singing it in their heads, yeah, coming yeah. 758 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 14: I like that is I thought that the yeah so smart. 759 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 14: So Carrie, you've never seen the show. I think I 760 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 14: think you would hold up if you started. I'm coming 761 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 14: out right, Okay, we'll do it. 762 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: Let's just say it. 763 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 7: It lives, It still stands up. If you was to 764 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 7: watch start watching it today, he would love it. It's amazing. 765 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw another show out to you guys, and 766 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 3: it's simply I would think it's kind of in that 767 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 3: same vein because they do the first person like narrative 768 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 3: thing as well. But everybody loves Chris. Have you guys 769 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: seen that at all way back when? Yeah, everybody loves Chris, 770 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: The Chris Rocks. Yeah, I've never seen it, but talk 771 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: about smart and funny. Like I had never watched it 772 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: at that time either, but I watched it this year 773 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: recently and it still holds up. And I just love 774 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: at that time and even what we're talking about right now, 775 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: the things you could still say and do at that 776 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 3: time in comedy matter, and I think that's part partly 777 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: why it's funny as well. 778 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: I like to Oh, sorry, I was gonna say, I 779 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: remember that show as well. 780 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 11: Go ahead, Sam, I like to throw one more show 781 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 11: out there that was just getting into its heyday, into 782 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 11: its heyday, and the theme song go something. 783 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 7: Like this. 784 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 11: Wowow wow. Breaking Bad two thousand and eight it started, 785 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 11: but by twenty ten it was humming along nicely. 786 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 2: I got a bad cold. See that's what you did, 787 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: TOMANSI at the pilot. I took Breaking Bad and I 788 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: made it and I made it about me, but it 789 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: completely threw you off. It doesn't make sense. I don't 790 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: even saying the same thing with Pilot. 791 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 4: She said. 792 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 11: Pilots usually suck, and I said, no, they fly our planes. 793 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 11: That makes way more sense. No, we're talking. 794 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 12: You've never heard of what a pilot is and TV 795 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 12: shows is I. 796 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 11: Know what a pilot is. 797 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why it was a joke. 798 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 2: But I do have a bad cold, as you can tell. Yes, Yeah, 799 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 2: I love Breaking I was fortunate enough to watch Breaking 800 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: Bad after so we could just go episode after episode. 801 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: Same thing with Game of Thrones. Yeah, I'm so glad 802 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: I watched it that way instead of having to wait 803 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: each week or oh man, Game of Thrones. 804 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 4: Years, there's a breaking back. 805 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 14: Ye. 806 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 807 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: Do you watch any TV. I'm more of a movie guy, 808 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a big movie guy speaking to movies. 809 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 4: You time. 810 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 7: What a great year twenty ten. Thank you, Thank you 811 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 7: for taking us on that ride. 812 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: All right? 813 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 5: Do you have a back end? 814 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 4: I don't call it a throwback? 815 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 10: Thirst what? Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 816 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 10: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 817 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 10: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 818 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer. He's 819 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: Carrie Rhoades. 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You would like to call the segment? 827 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 5: Was it? 828 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 11: Uh crack crack? 829 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: All right? 830 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 11: What you thought that as the old Putt crack scandal? 831 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 5: Nice? 832 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Adam Kaplan, you may want to stick around just 833 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: to hang out and hear that segment coming out. 834 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 5: I want to know. 835 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: Yes, we've we keep your interests. Oh my goodness, you 836 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: guys as far as you know. 837 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 5: Yes, all right. 838 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: So we found out a report today that the Chiefs 839 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: had offered the Jets a fourth round pick for Breese Hall, 840 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 2: and after trading Quinnin Williams and Sauce Gardner, the Jets said, yeah, thanks, 841 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: but no thanks, so they keep Breese Hall. How does 842 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: that go down? With the Jets and Darren Moogie making 843 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: the decision to keep the what feels like a disgruntled 844 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: running back right now. 845 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was fun. I think one of the local 846 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 5: outlets in New York. But yeah, what happened. My understanding 847 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 5: was that if Breshall walks right, which is almost certain happened, 848 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 5: they have no interest in extending his contract. So if 849 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 5: he walks, unless they change the mind of course by March, 850 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 5: but if he walks, they feel that he could sign 851 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 5: a monster deal. He could he still be one of 852 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 5: the best agent run backs out there, if not the best, 853 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 5: and it could possibly for twenty twenty seven get a 854 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 5: third round compensatory pick. That's what something the Bengals. The 855 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 5: Bengals have done, by the way, it's not a secret 856 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 5: in league circles. They they they've let a number of 857 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 5: free agents go over the years and they like to 858 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 5: build their compensatory pick group. The Ravens have done it. 859 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 5: It's another way to build up your roster. So that's 860 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 5: that's that's my understanding of what they're thinking was I look, 861 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 5: if you and I were running, I would have said 862 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 5: I would have said, Dan Luck, we're not gonna keep 863 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 5: He's not gonna be back, so let's let's take a 864 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 5: third Yep. Now the problem is now the Chiefs, depending 865 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 5: on which sports book you look at, are though they're 866 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 5: five and four, they're still plus five, there's still the 867 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 5: number one team to to win the Super Bowl. I 868 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 5: find it ridiculous. Yes, but that's tells you how wide 869 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 5: open the league is this year. 870 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 3: But I think that's what lends into the Colts making 871 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 3: the deal sure for salts Gardner, right do you? I 872 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 3: thought they overspent for him. 873 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 5: But oh yeah, but you're not kidding. 874 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, we're on the same page. But tell me 875 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 4: what were the what were there thinking there at him? 876 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 5: All Right? So, first of all, I want to say this, 877 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 5: and I have a lot of respect for Chris Ballad. 878 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 5: I know Chris a little bit, but you know his 879 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 5: if his problem has been and he's aware of it, 880 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 5: he's acknowledged it and sometimes to his detriment, but he's 881 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,479 Speaker 5: probably till this trade. Kerry, the most conservative general manager 882 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 5: in the National Football League, doesn't like to make trades, 883 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 5: want to build for the draft. But the problem is 884 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 5: when you fail at quarterback and you fail in the draft. 885 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 5: They failed completely with Anthony Richards that they've already told 886 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 5: you that they went to Daniel Jones, that that's over with. 887 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 5: When you do that, then you better start, you better 888 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 5: get it do it better. In other ways, well, he 889 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 5: hasn't mastered the draft. He's been an okay drafter. Yeah, 890 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 5: he's felled. Listen when Andrew luck Surprisingly retired, I get 891 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 5: that that's tough to overcome. One. He's everything he's done 892 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 5: at quarterback has failed. So he tried with Daniel Jones 893 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 5: as a backup. He signed up for high backup money 894 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 5: and it turned out look other than last week. He 895 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 5: was terrible, but he was He's been really good up 896 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 5: to last week. But here's the problem. So Carrie, he 897 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 5: makes his trade now the word I put this out 898 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 5: on sports Cord last week they were looking at corner 899 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. No one knew it was gonna be 900 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 5: Saust guarter because he wasn't really available. But the GM 901 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: of the Jets, Darren Moujie, admitted that the offer kept 902 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 5: growing and became the point where like, we have to 903 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 5: do this. The cornerback position is that the Lake deal. 904 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 5: Brandt told me on his value board it was the 905 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 5: fourth most important position quarterback, left offensive tackle, right defensive end, 906 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 5: because you're going to get to the left tackle, then cornerback. 907 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 5: So how do you how do you turn on two 908 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 5: freshill picks? Oh, by the way, they threw in Ady 909 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 5: Mitchell a second rounder last year. That's insane. 910 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 4: You have to do that. 911 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 5: Look, they're going to be bad anyway. Now. Now getting 912 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 5: back to Ballard in the Colts, Yeah, this is not 913 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 5: the way he does it. But here's the thing. No 914 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 5: one thought they'd be seven to two Ballard with Jim 915 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 5: Marse passing away and his kids running it. His daughters 916 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 5: were running the team. Chris has done a lot to 917 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 5: come back next year. What if they what if they 918 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 5: run on losing streak, they don't make the play, he's out. 919 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 5: So yeah that he he went for it. I I 920 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 5: know he overpaid. I totally agree. Every personnel person I 921 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 5: spoke to they just were shocked that Ballard. They still 922 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 5: don't understand it, Like what they knew that they were 923 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 5: bad at corner. That's not up to debate. What is 924 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 5: up to debate is why would you overpay? Y? Couldn't 925 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 5: you get two corners for that? You know what I'm 926 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 5: saying this is that's what happened. 927 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is the crazy thing that I think 928 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 2: about it is I'm trying to figure out how do 929 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: they look at their window? Like what is the window 930 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: of expiration? Sometimes it's a quarterback I thought maybe it's 931 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 2: a Jonathan Taylor situation where they're like, hey, Jonathan Taylor 932 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 2: in the past has battled some injuries. He's having a 933 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: great year so far. Let's make sure that we cash 934 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: in on when he's at the prime of his career. 935 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 2: But how does this complicate things now or or does 936 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: it complicate things if you now want to sign Daniel 937 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: Jones to a long term extension after just getting the 938 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 2: one year deal. 939 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 5: Mike Dan, that's sor right, we can talk to Mike 940 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 5: kessit Dan. Here's the problem. They just gave up two 941 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 5: first round picks, so they don't have a first round 942 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 5: pick until twenty twenty eight. Well, how do they get 943 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 5: in the quarterback on your question? So, the thought around 944 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 5: the league is that Ballard is Mortgage's future in terms 945 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 5: of the quarterback position. He's stuck with Daniel Jones. He's 946 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 5: gonna have to trade one and what and or sign 947 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 5: a journeyman free agent. That's what he just did with 948 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 5: with Daniel Jones. Really, so he's stuck. I mean, this 949 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 5: is let's ask you yes, yeah, well yes and no. 950 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 5: Theoretically yes, but you also have to see what who's 951 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 5: out there in free agency? And I understand you're probably 952 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 5: looking at guys who were washed up or look, who 953 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 5: knew about Baker Mayfield? Okay, who knew about Baker Mayfield? 954 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 5: You never know, though Daniel Jones up to last week 955 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 5: had been has been phenomenal. So yeah, look it's a 956 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 5: massive overpaid. That was a shocker of Monday. Was great 957 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 5: because all these teams wait till the last minute. When 958 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 5: you do that, you overpay because you know you can't 959 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 5: do any more trading until March. And if you're trying 960 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 5: to make a run for it, and as I said 961 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 5: at the top here as I set it back to you, Dan, 962 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 5: this is the one year to go for it because 963 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 5: it's so wide open. Anyone can win it if you 964 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 5: get in. 965 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 3: That's what I was going to bring up, like that's 966 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 3: that's the reason. I mean, the way that you come 967 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: into the season and right now the way it's materialized, 968 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 3: you got a chance to win it in your mind. 969 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 2: Are they I don't know about that, but they have 970 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 2: a chance. 971 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 3: But I want to go. I want to talk about 972 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 3: the night's tonight's game. I want to talk about the Bronco. No, 973 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 3: just just because of the Broncos, Adam, I got you. 974 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 5: I got you like. 975 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 4: This is the in my opinion, they are the worst 976 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 4: seven to two teams. 977 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 5: And my great defense. I know they're just this is also. 978 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 3: Carry's way of my Super Bowl pick. No, it isn't Dan. 979 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 3: They are legitimately there. I don't see any Yes, the 980 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 3: defense is really good and they got a lot of 981 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 3: play makers there. But what is wrong with their offense? 982 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 3: What's going on with the inconsistencies? 983 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 5: Next? Carry bow Next in consistent quarterback? He's just up 984 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 5: and down. There they've Here's the funny thing. They have 985 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 5: a ton of talent. Yes, yes, the running game is 986 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 5: it has been fine. But they they have games thirteen 987 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 5: to eleven. Like the Jets, they play down a lot 988 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 5: of the competition. I give them credit for Philly for winning. 989 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 5: It's hard to win. There was another game where they 990 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 5: didn't score a lot of points. Yep, they do just 991 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 5: enough to win there. I there's a radio show that 992 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 5: I do power rankers. We're actually going to do them today. 993 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 5: So I'll tell you what I have here. I have 994 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 5: the Broncos now and at my top fourteen, which is 995 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 5: obviously fourteen teams to make it Carry, It's funny you 996 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 5: bring this up. I have him at ten, Yeah, I 997 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 5: have him at ten. 998 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 4: Yeah I don't. 999 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:31,479 Speaker 5: I just don't. 1000 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 2: I don't see it, to be honest with you, without 1001 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: Patrick's tan too along. Yeah, a couple more weeks. 1002 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 5: Oh really Yeah, he's got a pectorial strain that those 1003 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 5: could be those I don't know if you've ever had 1004 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 5: that carry that those things are lingering, right, Yeah? 1005 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Carry and I started the show talking about Kyler 1006 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 2: Murray and you know we've we've talked for years. Carrie 1007 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 2: was was never a huge fan. 1008 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 5: Well why these many are? Yeah? 1009 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: Why the sense of mixed messages though? Because we had 1010 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 2: thought that Kyler Murray was about to play on Monday Night. 1011 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: Now he's on an R for four weeks. Well, no, 1012 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 2: there were there were there was, there was talk over 1013 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: the weekend. 1014 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was wrong. Here's here's this is this is 1015 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 5: my understanding. Let me just put it this way. This 1016 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 5: is my understanding. He's got a midfoot sprain. It could 1017 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 5: be he has a moderate midfoot sprain. As my understanding, 1018 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 5: if he pushes too much, he could he could be 1019 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 5: out for months. There was a like you could push 1020 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 5: it and play him, but he could also it was 1021 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 5: too risky. And now he focuses on his future. And 1022 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 5: by the way, his contract is really onerous. The structure. 1023 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 5: Uh it Look, they could trade him, they could want 1024 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 5: to trade him, but a you gotta find a team 1025 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 5: that's gonna want him. He's a smaller quarterback at five 1026 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 5: ten and those guys actually might not be five ten, 1027 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 5: might be five to nine. This structure is poor. It 1028 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 5: has what are called advance guarantees. So if he's on 1029 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 5: the roster in March of this year, the next year 1030 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 5: cash it fully guaranteed. Like that's the way you get 1031 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 5: around fully guarantee the whole contract. The agents do this now, 1032 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 5: it's another way to get it done. It's the bad 1033 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 5: contract for the Cardinals. I don't know what they're going 1034 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 5: to do there. And John again, it's Dan, You're right. 1035 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 5: The craziness of what he said this week. He's a 1036 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 5: very mercurial guy, by the way. It's a good, good 1037 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 5: dude from people have worked with him, players like him. 1038 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 5: But he says some stuff every now and then where 1039 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 5: you go, wait, wait a minute, what do you mean 1040 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 5: by that? He just yeah, he's SE's weird stuff. 1041 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 2: I told carry. 1042 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 5: Then. 1043 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 2: I think what it does is it allows Jacoby Brissett 1044 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: and I'll be the man, which honestly is a role 1045 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 2: that he hasn't succeeded in. He's great coming in and 1046 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: saving the day. Yeah, but when he's been a starter, 1047 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: it's been added more pressure. Does this Does this allow 1048 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: them to bring Kyler back at the end, so if 1049 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: they want to part ways at the end of the season, 1050 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: that there there isn't an injury situation for that. Could 1051 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: that be in play here. 1052 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 5: M But the problem is if he plays poorly, he 1053 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 5: always have to look at it that way. With the 1054 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 5: smid footsprain, it's it's in the list FRONC injury areas. 1055 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 5: I understand it. So it's yeah, it's it's not he 1056 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 5: didn't tear it, but it's there's enough of a spray 1057 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 5: in that it's it's a concern and you can't you 1058 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 5: can't risk it. That you talking to pleasure. I've had it. 1059 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 5: It's really bad. You know, it's an unnatural spray. We're 1060 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 5: the midfoot splits, so it's you gotta be careful of 1061 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 5: that thing. So that look that they they play very hard. 1062 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 5: They had it actually had a pretty good draft. Yea. 1063 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 5: The Montioso for it's done a good job in terment 1064 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 5: that the draft, but they're still not a very good 1065 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 5: football team. It starts a quarterback. You guys are absolutely right. 1066 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 5: Look their top to running backs are out. Connor won't 1067 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 5: be back the season. Marvin Harrison, he's getting better lately. 1068 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 5: I have always been a disappointment. It's stunning to me. 1069 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 5: Uh he was super loved by people in the draft. 1070 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 5: Who who who? Who I trust and hasn't happened. And 1071 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 5: defensively they're competitive, but they're just they've been stuck in 1072 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 5: neutral three years. That's my term for it. 1073 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Kerry and I went over 1074 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 2: their schedule and we made an argument they could be 1075 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 2: unbeaten as crazy as it sounds. As crazy as it sounds. 1076 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 5: They've got a lot of players back from injury. 1077 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 2: When you look at how they lost these games, yeah, 1078 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: I know they were not a lot. 1079 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 5: Though they do that a lot. No, but but but look, okay, so, 1080 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 5: but if you look at their scheduler coming up, I mean, honestly, 1081 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 5: if you look at the rest of their schedule, Okay, 1082 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 5: they got they got one. They got to beat the Bengals. 1083 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 5: You know that Bengals. They're not competitive defensively, but Seattle 1084 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 5: the Niners, the Jags, the Bucks, the Rams, the Texans 1085 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 5: defense the Rams again, Falcons, who are unachieving by the way, 1086 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 5: they are really disappointing. I'm I'm surprised. My friend Rhee 1087 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 5: Marson doing better. He's there's something missing with their offense. 1088 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 5: They should be way. Their defense is good, their offense 1089 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 5: is not. 1090 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 3: Adam, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a stab at myself 1091 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 3: here since I threw since I threw Dan under the 1092 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 3: bus with this deal Broncos, My team in the NFC 1093 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 3: is underachievement as well. 1094 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 4: And I don't know who they are either, and that's 1095 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers, Like who are they? Yeah, I mean, 1096 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 4: you know, offensively, they got weapons, they got back now. 1097 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, what it is is how do I describe this? 1098 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 5: So their defense is good, I mean, they don't have 1099 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 5: an elite defense, but for some when Joe Barry got fired, 1100 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,959 Speaker 5: the thought around the club was they were too soft, 1101 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 5: they were unachieving. They changed their scheme from thirty four, 1102 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 5: which they'd ran for decades, to forty three under Jeff Hafley, 1103 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 5: the former Boston College head coach who had coached in 1104 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 5: the league as an assistant for a while there. Look, 1105 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 5: here's the thing. From a front seven talent level, it's 1106 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 5: hard to find a team that's more talented, but they're 1107 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 5: not real good at corner, like very beatable corner offensively. Now, 1108 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 5: with a Tucker Craft injury, which is major, he had 1109 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 5: an ACL he was having a phenomenal year. What's interesting 1110 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 5: about that one, guys, is that Luke Musgrave was the starter. 1111 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 5: They were drafted and they were selecting the same draft 1112 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 5: and Musgrave got hurt and he had an illness and 1113 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 5: he never got a job back. And now Craft is 1114 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 5: out and Musgrave gets his job back, and then look 1115 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 5: everyone now and then Jordan Love done play well, but 1116 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 5: he's had a good year. There. They're five to and one. 1117 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 5: I did pick them the win division, but they're not 1118 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 5: going to win the Super Bowl. Matt mcfore is not. 1119 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 5: Here's the problem. Mattinfore has not been a good playoff 1120 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 5: head coach. Yeah he's very conservative as a play caller. Yeah, 1121 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 5: big balance guy. But what I did like against Pittsburgh 1122 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 5: when Love went twenty for twenty to finish out the game. 1123 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 5: When they beat Pittsburgh, they were behind and then Love 1124 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,439 Speaker 5: one off the fourth quarter, he did say we stayed 1125 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 5: with a pass because it was just Jordan was so good. 1126 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 5: Why run the ball. That's what Lafleur's got to do. 1127 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 5: A curry to answer your question. If you want to 1128 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 5: be great, take advantage of the talent. Now, Green Bay 1129 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 5: has got a number of injuries at receiver. They've got 1130 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 5: three guys are hurt. That's a problem for them as 1131 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 5: they host the Eagles, and the Eagles have kind of 1132 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 5: owned them in recent years. 1133 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 2: He goes in Monday Night Football. Will wrap up Week ten. 1134 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 2: Week ten start tonight with the Raiders and Broncos. As 1135 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 2: we talked about, so Adam Kaplan will be busy. Adam, 1136 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 2: thanks so much. We'll talk to you next time. All right, 1137 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 2: out it