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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. Well, sometimes plans change. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: we fully expected to be talking about who stood out

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Speaker 1: and who made one last impression and the preseason finale. Instead,

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Speaker 1: and for good reason, the game in New Orleans was canceled.

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Speaker 1: Our thoughts and prayers with everyone affected by Hurricane Ida. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: here in Arizona, there's a lot of people playing GM

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Speaker 1: with roster cuts needed to be made. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: episode four fifty nine, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one tend to

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Speaker 1: catch in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. As exciting as a time this is, this

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Speaker 1: is also one of those times where you just it's

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Speaker 1: very difficult, certainly when you're around the team. We're obviously

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Speaker 1: talking about what was happening on Tuesday, one pm, Arizona Time.

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Speaker 1: The final roster cuts need to be made and just

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Speaker 1: right around the corner the start of the regular season

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Speaker 1: MJA Week one, September twelveth. Yet in order to get

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Speaker 1: to September twelfth, you got to get through this week.

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Speaker 1: And it's hard a lot to say goodbye to some

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Speaker 1: of these players, especially at the front office and the

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Speaker 1: coaching Steve, you spent so much time, whether you drafted

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Speaker 1: a player, brought them in as a free agent, or

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Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent, and then you got to

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Speaker 1: this moment. Yeah, and for some of these undrafted free agents,

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Speaker 1: rookie mini camp and numbers weren't ass up as a

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Speaker 1: and we're in previous years because of COVID situation. But

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Speaker 1: you know, is this is the business, and you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully these guys showed enough on film. They did have

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Speaker 1: maybe they can slide some of these guys that are

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Speaker 1: and just because they announce a fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: you know they could put waiver claims. And last year

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals did not put a waiver claim in just

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Speaker 1: based on no preseason so there it was really the

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Speaker 1: but I do think there's three positions if they look

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Speaker 1: and the Jacksonville Jaguars have a claimant every single player

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Speaker 1: and now you get a chance to get all these

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Speaker 1: of guys will go under the practice squad. Well, I'll remember,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that long ago the Cardinals had that number

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Speaker 1: Cardinals early Monday morning on August thirtieth, announced the release

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Speaker 1: a numbers game. But you know, I thought when you

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Speaker 1: Michael Minett's atav and feast for guys that did hear

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Speaker 1: their names, get that tap on the shoulder and said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's just not going to work out

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Speaker 1: for you right now with the Arizona Cardinals, and I

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Speaker 1: was curious to see because you know, I'm thinking, did

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Speaker 1: they roll Coult McCoy out there? I don't think we

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Speaker 1: would have seen the starters from an offensive line standpoint,

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Speaker 1: we know hopping aj Green, Ron del Moore wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to play. I don't know about Kirk, but I was curious,

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Speaker 1: and I guess Kingsbury told the media today that it

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Speaker 1: would have been the Chris Streveler Show. He did. Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: brought it up. He was not asked about it, but

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Speaker 1: he was asked about, you know, losing that game and

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Speaker 1: the opportunities for a lot of the guys, and he

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Speaker 1: up that Chris Streveler would have started that contest, and

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Speaker 1: if you're going to start that contest, you're gonna play

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Speaker 1: the entire ball game. Because we weren't going to see

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Speaker 1: Kyle Lamurie where we weren't going to see Colt McCoy.

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Speaker 1: So it was going to be the Chris Strevelers Show

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Speaker 1: on Saturday and I don't know if we got a

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Speaker 1: chance to see Isaiah Simmons, Zavian Collins could have been

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Speaker 1: for a possession or two. I think it was a

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Speaker 1: great opportunity for Eno Benjamin to continue to show his

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Speaker 1: upside because he only had eight rushes in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Now he definitely put up over one hundred and thirty yards.

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Speaker 1: I want to say maybe in kick return Jonathan Ward

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Speaker 1: more reps. I mean, it was just some guys that

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Speaker 1: are not starters that you want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you know, again that Cliffs maintained that they're likely going

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Speaker 1: to keep four running backs. You know, we'll wait and see,

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Speaker 1: but I'd just like to see those guys get them

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Speaker 1: a little bit more rest because when the season gets here,

459
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Speaker 1: they're probably going to be limited and one could be inactive.

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Speaker 1: We talk about Keishawn Johnson being one of those players

461
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Speaker 1: that release. Did an Eno Benjamin maybe force this team's hand.

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Speaker 1: Who are we going to keep? And you know, Benjamin

463
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Speaker 1: proved that he was more capable in special teams than

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Speaker 1: a Keyshawn Johnson, So maybe you're going a little bit

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Speaker 1: heavier at the running back position. Then perhaps this organization

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Speaker 1: even thought going into training camp now it's a fair point,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I would think they're gonna have three

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Now all three dress on game day. That's

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Speaker 1: a position I think they could look at the waiver wire.

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Speaker 1: I just think in this day and age, you've got

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Speaker 1: to keep four running backs. A couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: they had to bring in Alfred Morris and Zach Zenter.

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Speaker 1: Now clearly David Johnson was playing on one leg. But

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Speaker 1: injuries do happen, and we can sit here today and

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Speaker 1: we can't guarantee that Chase and James Connor are going

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Speaker 1: to play all seventeen games. So I think four, But

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Speaker 1: once again numbers how many are active on game day.

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Speaker 1: We know Jonathan Ward has a vital part of the

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Speaker 1: special teams unit. You know's trying to get there, but

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Speaker 1: he's more on the second or third team. So I

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Speaker 1: think they'll keep four, And if I had a guess,

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Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Ward would be active. But it can

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Speaker 1: go a week in and week out based on an appointent.

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Speaker 1: They are thoroughly impressed with Eno Benjamin's the way he

485
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Speaker 1: hits the hole, in the way he's his low pad level,

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Speaker 1: where if he can get through a sliver or a seam,

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Speaker 1: they feel like he can break a play, but again,

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Speaker 1: is he gonna get that opportunity during the regular season?

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Speaker 1: And how many times have we heard, whether it was

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Speaker 1: from Benjamin himself or Kingsbury And how much different a

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Speaker 1: different attitude from Eno Benjamin this offseason and taking special

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Speaker 1: teams more seriously. And Benjamin even brought it up when

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Speaker 1: we had a chance to speak with him on the

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Speaker 1: Cardinal's Red Seat Report, that when you don't play special

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Speaker 1: teams in college because well, you're too valuable on offense

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Speaker 1: or defense. For Benjamin obviously it was on offense. Then

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Speaker 1: you come to the National Football League and everyone has

498
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Speaker 1: to have a role, and if you're not a top

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Speaker 1: tier guy, well, in order to be active and on

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Speaker 1: the football field for reps, you have to play special teams.

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Speaker 1: And for some players that's an adjustment. And for you know, Benjamin,

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Speaker 1: when you have limited knowledge of special teams. I think

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Speaker 1: he returned kicks a couple of times as a freshman.

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Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden that's taken away from

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Speaker 1: you because you're too valuable offensively. Now, how do you

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Speaker 1: get that mindset back on to where Okay, let me

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Speaker 1: figure out what I need to do to get my

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Speaker 1: special teams back in order so I can be involved

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Speaker 1: on this team and not just inactive on game day.

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Speaker 1: All right, can I get on my soapbox? Listen. I

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Speaker 1: understand in college, coach's job is to coach them up.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully when they leave there they're much better people, and

513
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Speaker 1: hopefully they get their education. But I never understood when

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Speaker 1: guys come in the NFL and they've never been in

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Speaker 1: a three point stance. You would think at the end

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Speaker 1: of practice on the college campus, and I know they

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Speaker 1: only could be out there for twenty hours, you would say, hey,

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Speaker 1: spend ten minutes putting your hand in the dirt. Wait wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: wait wait, I'm gonna interrupt you here because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: off to a little sidebar. Okay, but that's not the

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Speaker 1: responsibility of a coach to get you ready for the

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Speaker 1: national football No, I'm saying the player should be able

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Speaker 1: to do it on his own. But now, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're teaching them something that they're not going

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Speaker 1: to do on Friday night or Saturday afternoon or Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: And I understand, I completely understand what you're saying. I

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Speaker 1: put some behind the eight ball. When you get to

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Speaker 1: the next level. But we're seeing more and more when

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Speaker 1: we talk about offensive lineman, more and more of these

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and all of a sudden are not getting

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Speaker 1: in the three point stand in the National Football League

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Speaker 1: because the offenses have changed. The NFL has adjusted because

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Speaker 1: of what's happening at the college game. Right. But what

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Speaker 1: happens is once the bowl games over or they tap out,

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Speaker 1: they hire an agent. What about the agent? How these guys?

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Speaker 1: You get guys coming here and they had never because

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Speaker 1: they've been the featured back their entire high school and

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Speaker 1: college career. They don't even know how to get in

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Speaker 1: pass pearl. They don't know how to protect the quarterback

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Speaker 1: on a blitz. Some of these guys they look like

541
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Speaker 1: they're you know, they got mits in their hand. They

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Speaker 1: can't catch the ball back. And again I look at

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Speaker 1: t Bone, I'm like, why didn't because everything's a shotgun

544
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Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. I get it, it's not

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Speaker 1: their job. But these guys, when you hire an agent

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Speaker 1: and you go to these workout places, it's not about

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Speaker 1: your forty time. Okay, how many times you're gonna ru

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Speaker 1: a forty time? If you're just defensive back, you're running

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Speaker 1: pedaling backwards. So I sometimes I look at this and

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Speaker 1: then go, why didn't these guys get more experience, Because

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Speaker 1: that's a poor excuse to me that you know what

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Speaker 1: I haven't done in a long time, Well find a way. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you can say the same thing about quarterbacks. When

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Speaker 1: you are calling a play in the huddle, you turn

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Speaker 1: to the sideline and they got these picture cards, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you's to the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: and you got to spout off different segments, different phrases

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Speaker 1: and numbers and letters, and all of a sudden you're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: I could just look and see four pictures and know

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Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to do this, and now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're telling me I need to explain and

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Speaker 1: state what to the rest of the guys in the huddle,

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Speaker 1: what the offense is supposed to do on this particular

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Speaker 1: st That's what you said. You're exactly right. Their job

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Speaker 1: is to win games. But you're not helping the quarterback

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Speaker 1: when he gets to the next level to read a defense.

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Speaker 1: And again that's not on them. Eventually goes on the player.

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Speaker 1: Good sidebar here, and I appreciate that. Soapbox. By the way,

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Speaker 1: bird gang, if you have not already watched it. Episode

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Speaker 1: five of the Emmy Award winning Cardinals Flight Plan is

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Speaker 1: up and available on the Cardinals official YouTube channel. Episode five,

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Speaker 1: titled Take the Lead Once More, in depth behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes look at what's going on in Cardinals training camp,

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Speaker 1: including an interview with gentlemen or Steve Kim and his

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Speaker 1: comments about this perhaps being the best on paper roster

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Speaker 1: that he has put together since twenty fifteen. And of

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Speaker 1: course we know mj twenty fifteen, the last time the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals were in the postseason. Wow. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 1: they put together a ten win team last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: we can see the onus is on the players, you know,

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Speaker 1: down the stretch obviously, you know they didn't score enough points.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, listen, I thought they put a good team

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Speaker 1: together last year. I guess we'll put it in the

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Speaker 1: rear view mirror. That's encouraging, but they got to show

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Speaker 1: it on game day. A couple of notes from Monday's

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Speaker 1: open portion of practice. One. Good to see Chandler Jones

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Speaker 1: number fifty five out there after missing some time with

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Speaker 1: an undisclosed injury. Believe it was a minor issue or

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Speaker 1: a minor deal. I'll be glad when this is no

590
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Speaker 1: longer a talking point because the injury or report will

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Speaker 1: come out next week and we'll figure out exactly what's

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Speaker 1: ailing these players. And then the fact that no Robert offered,

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Speaker 1: no Justin Pugh knew Jordan Phillips during the open portion

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Speaker 1: of practice, and according to Kingsbury, they remain in the

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen protocols but in the quote final stages. What

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Speaker 1: that meansburg Gang don't know, but if not this week,

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Speaker 1: then definitely next week, according to Kingsbury. And this is

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Speaker 1: going to put a little bit of a wrinkle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not a little bit of a wrinkle, but without those

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Speaker 1: three players on the football field or still in protocol,

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Speaker 1: they don't count towards your fifty three man roster. So

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Speaker 1: when these final cuts are coming, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: yes there'll be sixteen cuts made. But don't forget that

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Speaker 1: when Alford, Pugh and Phillips come back, they take the

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Speaker 1: spots of someone. So there might be names that do

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Speaker 1: make the initial fifty three man roster come Tuesday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: But then Alford comes back and you have to say

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Speaker 1: goodbye to someone. Then Phillips comes back and you have

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Speaker 1: to say goodbye to someone, and then justin Pugh, when

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Speaker 1: heat comes back, you have to say goodbye to someone.

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Speaker 1: So those three players, and I think this is something

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Speaker 1: that I think is going to get lost in the

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Speaker 1: shuffle because we all assume that they're on the roster.

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Speaker 1: They will be come week one, but there is not

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a little bit of some wiggle

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Speaker 1: room because there are going to be three players that

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Speaker 1: make the team m J and then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden won't be on the team when those three players

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Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, I think it's been known hopefully, position

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Speaker 1: coaches tell their players even though you haven't got the

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Speaker 1: call yet, don't go out and buy a house, don't

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Speaker 1: go out and buy a car. You should wait a

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Speaker 1: few months and see if you're going to be on

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Speaker 1: the roster the entire season. But yeah, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you're waiting, waiting by the phone, and when you watch

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, eventually somebody's gonna call you, and somebody's gonna

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Speaker 1: send the van for you. And you got the iPad.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine just sitting there and you don't get

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Speaker 1: the call and you make the initial fifty three and

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Speaker 1: then two days later, hey, can you bring your iPad

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Speaker 1: and that happens a lot, and it's going to happen

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Speaker 1: this week because of those three players not counting towards

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Speaker 1: the roster, and all of a sudden they return, whether

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Speaker 1: it's this week or next, someone is going to be

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Speaker 1: sent packing just to open up a spot for Alfred

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Speaker 1: Pugh or Phillips. And one more notes on Phillips. Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: was asked when Phillips does return or has taken off

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Speaker 1: that reserve COVID nineteen lists, is he in position to practice?

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury said he is. He has been working out and

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Speaker 1: that would be good to see because we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips since maybe the first week of training camp.

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Speaker 1: I mean he went out soon after that run test

643
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Speaker 1: and then has been out since and then landed on

644
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Speaker 1: the reserve Cup of nineteen list. But a healthy Jordan

645
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: Phillips goes a long way towards the success I think

646
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: of this team, not just defensively, but the entire twenty

647
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Speaker 1: twenty one Arizona Cardinals. I just think it evens things

648
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: out when you start looking at the rotation, because if

649
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Speaker 1: he's not there, he's projected to be a starter. So

650
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're going with the backup,

651
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: and now the backup has to play more snaps than

652
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: he would originally play. And the perfect scenario is Jordan

653
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Phillips's Corey Peters and it's j J. Watt and the

654
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: first guy coming off would be Zach Allen and then

655
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: you got to two run stuffers, you know so, And

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Speaker 1: I don't think Corey Peters is going to play every

657
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: single snap, so you gotta have some in. There were

658
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: times the Cardinals have two defensive linemen. Sometimes they're gonna

659
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: have three. They'll show a five man look at the line. Again,

660
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: they need Jordan Phillips just like they needed Jordan Hicks

661
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: on defense. But he's he's got to stay healthy. And

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00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's nice that he's going to be able

663
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: to come back and practice, but he's got to put together.

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Speaker 1: This is because I don't know what kind of football

665
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: shape is in, but I'm telling you they need him

666
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: in week one, they need him in week five, they

667
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: need him in week ten. They edited him the entire

668
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: season if teams are going to try to run the

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Speaker 1: football on the Cardinals. Phillips only played nine games last season,

670
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: hurt his hamstring. Returned week fourteen against the Giants, was

671
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: reinjured and into the year on I R and he

672
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: was a big free agent addition a year ago or

673
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: two years ago ahead of the twenty twenty regular season.

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Speaker 1: And then though we were all excited about Jordan Phillips

675
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Speaker 1: being in a part of this roster, and I don't

676
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: think we've seen him yet, the Buffalo Bill's version Jordan Phillips,

677
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: and I think that is what people want to see

678
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: because when you look at that defensive line, and this

679
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: is where it gets, at least for me, when I'm

680
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who to keep and who to

681
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: release as far as trying to get to that fifty

682
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: three magic number. But JJ Watt, Richard Lawrence, Jordan Phillips,

683
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: Zach Allen, Corey Peters, Lecky Foe two. There are six

684
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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. That's your rotation, whether you get three at

685
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: a time or two at a time. But the mystery,

686
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Speaker 1: if you will, and the question mark I have is

687
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: Michael Dogby. He's done nothing but one stay healthy and produce.

688
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: And if you have players who are up in there

689
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: an age and have an injury history a JJ Watt,

690
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: a Jordan Phillips recently, do all of a sudden, this

691
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Speaker 1: team add an additional defensive lineman, keeping seven just because

692
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: of concerns about one losing a Dogby to another team,

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Speaker 1: and then the concerns that you need to have some

694
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: extra depth because you're concerned about some of these players

695
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 1: that you have that just haven't been able to stay

696
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: healthy on a consistent basis, and you gotta throw Corey

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Speaker 1: Peters in there. And I mean you talk about Jordan

698
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Speaker 1: Phillips and JJ Watt. Yeah, I mean, to me, I

699
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: think they keep seven. I think they dressed six time

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Speaker 1: game day. And Dogby to me, is a guy that's

701
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: shown improvement. I like his body type. I think he's

702
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: a lot stronger. But again he could be on the roster,

703
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: maybe not playing, but we know that position. He got

704
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: to keep fresh. And we've talked about hummets. Even though

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00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: Watt played sixteen games last year, he's missed thirty two

706
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: in the last five. Jordan Phillips, as you pointed out,

707
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: miss nine games last year. He played nine and miss nine.

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00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: He played nine, played nine, Okay, so he missed seven.

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Speaker 1: And then you know Zach Allen, I mean there was

710
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: times that he was taken out of the game, but

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00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: he actually started fourteen games. We know that Lucky and

712
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence are part of the rotation, but they got

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Speaker 1: to stay Lucky healthy. So I do think they'll keep seven.

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Speaker 1: Now is that seventh guy on the roster. It's a

715
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: great question because they know what they have in Dogby

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Speaker 1: and you know, again Brinson Bucknam, what does he think

717
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: about his group? But I think right now, besides buck

718
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: obviously getting his guys up to speed, I think he's

719
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: got to get Jordan Phillips up to speed so he's

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Speaker 1: on the field throughout the course of the year. By

721
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Speaker 1: the way, last season, Dogby saw auction in three games,

722
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: he spent the majority of the year on the practice squad.

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: Fourteen times he was protected. That means this Cardinals team,

724
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: they liked what they saw during the week of practice

725
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: to where they could elevate him and all of a

726
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: sudden he would go in and they wouldn't miss a beat.

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: And when the Cardinals had all these defensive linemens somewhere

728
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: on COVID someone were returning from injuries, of course JJ Watt,

729
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: they were going to be cautious with They did sign

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Speaker 1: a couple linemen. You know, and to me, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Marcus Hunt, you know, Josh Morrow. They did release the

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00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: guy that they got from the Cowboys last week, but

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Speaker 1: I still think you can bring some of those guys

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00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: back on the practice squad, just because of the nature

735
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: of the position and the history with some of these

736
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: guys missing games and all Cam Murray was released on Monday,

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00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: one of those players that perhaps you bring back on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. It's going to be an interesting twenty

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Speaker 1: four forty eight hours and again maybe Bird Gang. By

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Speaker 1: the time you're listening to this edition of Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two presented by Hunday Probab, partner of the Arizona Cardinals,

742
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: some of those decisions, some of those tough decisions, have

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Speaker 1: already been made. Kingsbury did acknowledge that this week they're

744
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: treating this as a mock game week, meaning Monday Tuesday,

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00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Wednesday is a Wednesday, Thursday Friday of game week. There

746
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Speaker 1: is a mandatory four day period of many bye if

747
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: you will, and then on Labor Day a bonus day

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00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: practice on Monday Tuesday your regular practice or your regular

749
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Speaker 1: day off for players, and then the course you get

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: into the Tennessee Titans week on Wednesday, and of course

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00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: September twelfth is the regular season opener. Yeah, and I

752
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: think every team's treating us like a bye week. I mean,

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00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: you go through your your training camp. Some teams out

754
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: the majority of teams played three preseason games, a couple

755
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: only played two, and then you give the players off

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00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: a few days, and then you have that bonus practice

757
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: and they'll have another bonus practice on Labor Day. But

758
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: this is really a bye week. And that's the reason

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Speaker 1: why I was. I was intrigued and excited when J. J.

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00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Watt was on the field last week. I thought, every

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00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: Wednesday broke camp. I think we're gonna start to see

762
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: these guys because they realize what's that stake here, and

763
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: you got to get into football shape. And so it's

764
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: really important that they get Phillips justin pew and then

765
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: obviously m Robert Alford should all come off the list.

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: Phillips is obviously in pewer more in concussion or COVID protocol.

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00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: But I think these guys going to get out in

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00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: the practice field so they cannoct some of that rushtop

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Speaker 1: one last topic here on Cardinals Cover two presented by

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Speaker 1: Hunday Proud, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. The NFL Top

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00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: one hundred players list is complete, the final player for

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00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals on the list. The Cardinals had four players.

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00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: I'm only going to count three though, MJ. Again, if

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00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: JJ Watt is listening to this or finds out about this,

775
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: it's nothing against j J. Watt, but I can't count

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Speaker 1: him amongst the Cardinal players on this list because it's

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Speaker 1: based off of a year ago and JJ Watt a

778
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: year ago was playing for the Houston Texans. Wat landed

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Speaker 1: at number sixty six, but the three Arizona Cardinals players

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray thirty nine, Buddha Baker nineteen, and DeAndre Hopkins

781
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: it was announced over the weekend number eight, same spot

782
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: a year ago. Second highest ranked wide receiver, Davanta Adams

783
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: landed at number six. But for d hop who believes,

784
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: as he told us during training camp, he has not

785
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: reached his peak yet. Certainly, being a top ten player

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00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: as voted by your peers has to mean something. Now.

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00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Of course, he'll want to be the number one wide

788
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: receiver and not just be number two or a top

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00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: ten player. And obviously every player wants to be ranked

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Speaker 1: number one. But nine times out of ten unless you're

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00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, that number one spot's going to go to

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I was thoroughly impressed that

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Speaker 1: he was in the top ten. You know, you've got

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Speaker 1: to figure Davante Adams and then you know Derrick Henry,

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: and then you got to throw in the quarterbacks, and

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00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: then you got to throw in the best defensive linemen

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00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: in there, and usually as a pass rusher. I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: if he has a great season, that Chandler Jones will

799
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: be on the list next year. Bounce back here for Chandler.

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Speaker 1: Buddha and Kyler Murray made huge jumps, and as you

801
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Speaker 1: pointed at Hopp's eighth last year, so he's saying he's

802
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: in the same spot. I think it'd be hired to

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00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: get there, just because of the nature of the position

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00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: and you have to put up big numbers. And right now,

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams, I think he has thirty six touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: the last three seasons. Kyler Murray went from ninety to

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Speaker 1: thirty nine, a jump of fifty one spots. Impressive. Buddha

808
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Baker was even more impressive. Previously MJ at ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: Now he checks in at nineteen that's a jump of

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Speaker 1: seventy eight spots. And for Buddha Baker, the highest ranked

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Speaker 1: safety and all of the National Football League, not the

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Speaker 1: highest paid anymore, but the highest ranked safety. He's third now.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happens as far as the highest paid. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Adams number one. Justin Simmons from Denver, who was actually

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Speaker 1: franchising back to back. Here's in Buddhist third. When DJ

816
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: Humphrey signed his he was in the top three or four.

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Speaker 1: He is down between eight and nine. That means you

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00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: id your core, you take care of them, and let

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00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: somebody else set the market. Well, it's a great deal

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00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals, DJ Humphreys, a great deal for

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. At the time, in the moment, you're like, wow,

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00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. But then as you get

823
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: further and further away from that, and then some of

824
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: the other players coming up from behind get up for

825
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: contract extensions, then all of a sudden that number doesn't

826
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: look as bad. Now the player might say, wait a second,

827
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm underpaid now. But for the Cardinals, it's always to

828
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: do it earlier as opposed to later. And this might

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Speaker 1: be a foreshadow in a discussion we might end up

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Speaker 1: having next offseason when it comes to quarterback Kyler Murray,

831
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Speaker 1: because it's what all of these teams have when it

832
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: comes to your QB one. If you don't have one,

833
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: you got no chance. And that's why you're seeing teams,

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, draft quarterbacks in the first round, even though

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00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: they got veteran guys. Usually the veteran guy will play,

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Speaker 1: you know, a few games, and then if their team

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: isn't very good, to go to the next guy. So

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Speaker 1: it's one of the toughest positions to play in sports,

839
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: and it's one of the toughest positions to evaluate. You

840
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: think you know something. I'm sure Ryan Pace and Matt

841
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Naggie are still not sleeping well when they left Patrick

842
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Deshaun Watson on the board. Now fast forward

843
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, they got justin Fields even

844
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: though they want to go with Andy Dalton. So I

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: just look at Kyler and you know, somebody texts me

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00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: and say that you're kind of bullish on Kyler. I said,

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00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: this is the best camp he's had, and he admitted

848
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: it heat to me, not that he didn't know the offense.

849
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: But when they say he mastered it. He's mastered it,

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00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: and now he's had more talent than he's had in

851
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: three years. The upgrade at the offensive line could have

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Speaker 1: Hudson's going to be in there. They added some whiteouts

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Speaker 1: spot now again, he's going to prove it on game day.

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Speaker 1: But I like what I saw. I think he's matured.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever going to be a

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Speaker 1: great leader. They got leadership in that locker room. But

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Speaker 1: I like that flight plan. Excuse me, just watch the

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Speaker 1: flight plan because he's holding guys accountable where I didn't

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Speaker 1: really see that as much maybe over the first two years.

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