WEBVTT - Ep. 778: Foundations - Touch Grass, Bro

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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<v Speaker 1>to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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<v Speaker 1>creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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<v Speaker 1>First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundation's podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your

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<v Speaker 2>houset Tony Peterson, and today's episode is about how to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy and well, I guess just kind of not

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<v Speaker 2>sad when it comes to deer hunting. Man, We're in

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<v Speaker 2>a weird time right now. It seems like everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>on edge and everyone's depressed and stressed though, and then

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<v Speaker 2>happiness is like just merely a concept we came up with,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not something we can actually achieve. I have

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<v Speaker 2>some theories on this, and while I don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>answers to all the world's problems, I do think if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a hunter, you at least have some options for

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<v Speaker 2>how to be a little happier and learn to just

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<v Speaker 2>let some shit go and live your life. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk about right now. The phrase touch

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<v Speaker 2>grass is an insult that you can lob at someone

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<v Speaker 2>for spending too much time online. It implies that too

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<v Speaker 2>much doom scrolling and random hours spent looking at tiktoks

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<v Speaker 2>is bad for us, and that if you do that

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<v Speaker 2>too much, you're missing out on the real world. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to argue with that. Honestly, I feel that more

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<v Speaker 2>and more every day, and I feel like all of

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<v Speaker 2>us pretty much need to touch a little more grass.

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<v Speaker 2>These days. People are edgy and in some ways, you

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<v Speaker 2>know rightfully so the world just feel like a powder

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<v Speaker 2>keg right now. There are some serious wars going on

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<v Speaker 2>in case you haven't been paying attention, and global tensions

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they are real high. It's not a totally

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<v Speaker 2>irrational thought to believe that Russia's invasion of Ukraine could

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<v Speaker 2>be viewed way in the future as the event that

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<v Speaker 2>started World War Three. If that seems a little nuts,

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<v Speaker 2>do a little research on how the Second Great War

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<v Speaker 2>came to be and the events that led up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>This stuff doesn't happen overnight. Generally, it's a slow boil

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<v Speaker 2>and then suddenly it's not. I sure, hope I'm way wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>But to definitively say that's not a potential route we

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<v Speaker 2>as a species are headed down would probably be a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>We are four years out from the start of the pandemic, too,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sure seems like that changed us in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways. There are probably a lot of reasons

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<v Speaker 2>for this, but I'm starting to wonder if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>at least partially because for a lot of us, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the event that showed us we aren't as free

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<v Speaker 2>as we thought. The idea that the government could shut

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<v Speaker 2>down your business or take away your job had never

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<v Speaker 2>occurred to a lot of us, Or that our kids

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<v Speaker 2>would suddenly not be able to get on a school

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<v Speaker 2>bus and go away for eight hours to fill their

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<v Speaker 2>brains with reading and writing and arithmetic, but instead would

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<v Speaker 2>have to stare at screens all day to get some

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<v Speaker 2>level of their education. Hell, until about twenty twenty, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's safe to say that a lot of us

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<v Speaker 2>always thought we'd have enough charman to wipe our butts with,

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<v Speaker 2>and we found out that some people really value that,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're willing to buy up copious amounts of toilet

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<v Speaker 2>paper on the off chance that supply chains got so

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<v Speaker 2>disrupted that they would have to resort to using I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, dish towels or something. I think we thought

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<v Speaker 2>of ourselves as more free than we really are, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're facing that reality. You know, it changed, and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make us any happier. We've always known, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that we better pay our taxes or we'd go to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>It just didn't feel all that real. It's just something

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<v Speaker 2>we did. I think it kind of does feel more

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<v Speaker 2>real now, and that's weird. It's unsettling. It's weird to

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<v Speaker 2>feel that the agency we have over our lives isn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite what we thought. Those feelings only get worse with

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<v Speaker 2>the widespread phone addictions that pretty much all of us have.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just feeding ourselves rage inducing nonsense because we can't

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<v Speaker 2>help it. And that's just so bad. Like recently, my

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<v Speaker 2>wife called me to ask me if I had heard

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in a park maybe three miles from our house.

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<v Speaker 2>I told her I hadn't, and she filled me in

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<v Speaker 2>on a mom who shot her two young children and

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<v Speaker 2>herself in the park. I don't need to know that,

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<v Speaker 2>and none of us need to know that that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing is happening all over the world every day,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, far worse things are happening. It is

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<v Speaker 2>said that all knowledge is power, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Knowing the bad news of eight billion people seems to

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<v Speaker 2>make us feel powerless. It's a weird time to be alive.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe humans have been saying that since humans have

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<v Speaker 2>been able to say that, who knows? I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>do know that life is hard for everyone, and that

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<v Speaker 2>there is a silver lining to all of this. Instead

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<v Speaker 2>of being hold to touch grass in a derogatory way,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I probably don't really need a reminder. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't need an insult to get us outside and to

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<v Speaker 2>feel the sun on our skin and maybe tuck our

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<v Speaker 2>doom machine into our pocket or our pack, and experience

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<v Speaker 2>the real world as it exists, as it exists naturally.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I should say there's also no small amount

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<v Speaker 2>of good stuff that comes from being productive. As I

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<v Speaker 2>get older, I'm starting to realize how important productivity and

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<v Speaker 2>momentum really is now. I've talked about this a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>but this mild winter allowed me to be real productive

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<v Speaker 2>and keep my dear work momentum going in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't think I've ever experienced before. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>feeling a whole lot of anxiety about this fall which

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<v Speaker 2>is unusual, especially when I start to figure out my

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<v Speaker 2>travel schedule. Now, I know the anxiety will come as

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<v Speaker 2>the summer progresses, but it will likely be subdued and

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<v Speaker 2>not as nerve racking as it could be. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes that's the best we can hope for now. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty far from a mental health specialists, although I

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<v Speaker 2>have spent some serious time and money with people who are.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing you often find if you go see one

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<v Speaker 2>of these folks is that you're looking for someone else

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<v Speaker 2>to fix your problems. But really they are more in

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<v Speaker 2>line with a coach who will help you fix your

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<v Speaker 2>own problems, if that makes sense. And you know what's

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<v Speaker 2>wild about me and you and anyone who has the

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<v Speaker 2>luxury of listening to a deer hunting podcast in their

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<v Speaker 2>free time, we already have one hell of a prescription

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<v Speaker 2>for boosting our mood and making ourselves feel better. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the answer for everyone, but it sure can be

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of us. And it's just waiting out

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<v Speaker 2>there in the deer woods, and it's waiting out there

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<v Speaker 2>in the Turkey woods, and it's waiting out there in

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<v Speaker 2>the trout stream and the bay and your favorite lake

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<v Speaker 2>where the crappies spawn. This is where I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a slightly weird turn. As someone tasked with coming

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<v Speaker 2>up with some way to teach people how to hunt

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<v Speaker 2>deer or turkeys over and over, I've had to focus

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<v Speaker 2>a lot on mission specific con you know, the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like three ways to make sure you kill your biggest

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<v Speaker 2>buck this season, or how to hunt a buck in

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<v Speaker 2>the cattails, or why your trail camera strategy is hurting you.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of stuff. Those are linear pieces of content

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<v Speaker 2>that pose a problem and then a solution to that

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<v Speaker 2>problem that the audience might not have thought of. That

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<v Speaker 2>stuff performs well because we like solutions to difficult things.

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<v Speaker 2>We like shortcuts to our own thinking. This is why

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<v Speaker 2>we like religion and auto investing and the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>Andy may can say the right words and suddenly your

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<v Speaker 2>tags will damn near fill themselves. But there's another way

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<v Speaker 2>to look at this stuff that isn't so linear, but

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<v Speaker 2>is probably far more important than finally wrapping your tag

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<v Speaker 2>around the antlers of a mature buck. It's also just

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<v Speaker 2>good for you to meet a challenge head on and

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<v Speaker 2>try to figure it out. It's why you feel differently

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<v Speaker 2>when you go mobile for a night in a question

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<v Speaker 2>mark spot than when you go to the Old Faithful

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<v Speaker 2>Stand to look at the same food plot for the

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<v Speaker 2>seventeenth time of the season. It's why some of the

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<v Speaker 2>best deer hunters on the planet share a simple trait

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<v Speaker 2>that they like being in nature, and they facilitate that

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<v Speaker 2>desire as much as possible. Sure, on paper, the idea

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<v Speaker 2>might be to go scout a creek bottom on some

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<v Speaker 2>public land, or maybe hike a few ridges that look

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<v Speaker 2>cool on on X, But that's sort of a trick

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<v Speaker 2>we play on ourselves. It's like when I bank a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast I'm really interested in so that I can listen

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<v Speaker 2>to it when I go for a run instead of

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<v Speaker 2>burning through it while I'm distracted and cleaning the garage.

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<v Speaker 2>We use little tricks to keep ourselves in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak. But in the case of going into

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<v Speaker 2>the woods or getting out on the water, the benefits

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<v Speaker 2>extend far beyond us increasing our chances to kill a

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<v Speaker 2>deer or catch a fish. The act of being there,

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<v Speaker 2>touching grass, if you will, is really good for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I can just say that, and you will

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<v Speaker 2>probably agree with me because you know it is well

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<v Speaker 2>as I do. But listen to this. According to the

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<v Speaker 2>Mayo Clinic, which is sort of the gold standard for

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<v Speaker 2>medical care not only in our country but the world,

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<v Speaker 2>that stress stimulates our sympathetic nervous system. With that comes

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<v Speaker 2>elevated blood pressure and an increase in heart rate and

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<v Speaker 2>blood sugar. That's one of the ways your body reacts

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<v Speaker 2>to stress, and in small doses it's fine. The system

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<v Speaker 2>evolved for a reason. Too much stress, though, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have issues. I think it's safe to say most

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<v Speaker 2>of us are stressed out on a daily basis to

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<v Speaker 2>some extent, which means we are probably all at risk

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<v Speaker 2>of the negative repercussions from stress. Studies have shown that

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<v Speaker 2>an antidote to that sympathetic nervous system stimulation is you

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<v Speaker 2>guessed it gulf. Actually, that one might be true unless

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<v Speaker 2>you have a bad day on the links and you go,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, full happy Gilmore and break clubs over

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<v Speaker 2>your knees and toss them into a water hazard. The

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<v Speaker 2>real answer is time and nature as little as five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of it can calm us down. The benefits of

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<v Speaker 2>going into the woods or wet waiting a small MoU stream.

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<v Speaker 2>They're nearly instant and nearly all positive. Think about that

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<v Speaker 2>this literally lowers your risk of having a major chest

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<v Speaker 2>grabber or developing certain chronic diseases. In this case, that

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<v Speaker 2>environment deer live in is actually medicine for us. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me frame this up another way. Do you know why

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<v Speaker 2>it's more expensive to book a hotel room with a

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<v Speaker 2>sweet view versus one overlooking a dingy alley where you

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<v Speaker 2>might get to watch people shoot heroin into their veins.

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<v Speaker 2>The better view is in higher demand. It's worth more

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<v Speaker 2>money because we are genetically drawn to nature. This is

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<v Speaker 2>an evolutionary thing. Studies have shown that hospital patients with

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<v Speaker 2>another nice view of trees and green space tend to

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<v Speaker 2>heal faster than those with no view or those with

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<v Speaker 2>a shitty view. Believe what you want about why nature

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<v Speaker 2>is good for us, but at least believe that it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Studies have shown that nature is beneficial to our eyesight

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<v Speaker 2>as well. People who spend more time in nature can

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<v Speaker 2>literally see better on average than people who spend more

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<v Speaker 2>time indoors. Time in nature is correlated to lower body

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<v Speaker 2>mass index, which is a measure of physical healthiness. It's

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<v Speaker 2>good for depression, and that one I believe with all

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<v Speaker 2>my soul. It helps us focus and concentrate. It improves

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<v Speaker 2>problem solving skills. Humans who participate in nature tend to

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<v Speaker 2>be more spiritual, and that tends to have a more

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<v Speaker 2>positive impact on their mental health. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>treat yourself better and treat your loved ones better, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, avoid wanting to strangle your coworkers because even

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<v Speaker 2>though they've never seen a wild whitetail, they think they

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to tell you, one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>successful whitetail hunters in the country, what kind of content

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<v Speaker 2>you should make because it'll get more clicks, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you just talk about the rut one more time,

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<v Speaker 2>But then you're like, I swear to all things holy

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<v Speaker 2>if you do this one more time, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>put my hands around your throat and cackle like a

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<v Speaker 2>horny rooster fresent in the spring while I watch the

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<v Speaker 2>light in your eyes get dimmer and dimmer until you

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<v Speaker 2>finally swump to the floor and I walk away to

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<v Speaker 2>eat a bollo of lucky charms without care in the

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<v Speaker 2>world or whatever. It'll make you nicer if you spend

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<v Speaker 2>more time in nature, is what I'm saying. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that we have control over and

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<v Speaker 2>it's important. It's important to take care of yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge the behaviors we get into that make our quality

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<v Speaker 2>of life worse, just as it's important to recognize the

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<v Speaker 2>things that will be good for us, like going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a walk through your deer property without any real

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<v Speaker 2>objective or any worry that we might spook some bucks

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<v Speaker 2>out or whatever. I think it's good to take a

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<v Speaker 2>holistic view of this stuff, to not distill it down

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<v Speaker 2>just to time scouting, and you know, hunting as a

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<v Speaker 2>soul mission to kill a big deer, that's a good

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<v Speaker 2>way to drain the fun from it, and to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest to not be a very good deer hunter. The

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<v Speaker 2>wild card trips into the woods or on the water

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones that we often enjoy the most. And

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<v Speaker 2>do you know why that is because the bar is low.

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<v Speaker 2>My friends, if you go take a walk in the

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<v Speaker 2>woods in May, you're not going to be stressed out

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<v Speaker 2>about your presence in the woods. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be wondering if you should have stayed out because you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't got a picture of one of your hitlisters in

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<v Speaker 2>three days. Hell, you might not have a real purpose

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<v Speaker 2>to your time in the woods at all, which is

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<v Speaker 2>honestly the best way to go about it, at least

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<v Speaker 2>some of the time. I don't know how many times

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<v Speaker 2>I have found a cool place to fish or hunt

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<v Speaker 2>simply because I felt the gravity of life getting a

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<v Speaker 2>little heavier, and I took the natural escape, which is

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<v Speaker 2>to sprint to the woods, which, if I'm being that's

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<v Speaker 2>holy honest, is a hell of a lot better remedy

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<v Speaker 2>for being anxious and depressed and stressed then I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>sprinting right to the liquor cabinet to chug what can

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<v Speaker 2>only be described is definitely not a good fix for

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<v Speaker 2>most of my problems, other than I guess the temporary

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<v Speaker 2>leaf that comes before things get worse because well, I

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<v Speaker 2>made them worse. Find an excuse to go into the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's a scouting mission you've been thinking about, or

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<v Speaker 2>better yet, some other simple reason like maybe you just

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<v Speaker 2>want to look at a property, or maybe you want

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<v Speaker 2>to find some fossils, maybe you're gonna hopefully stumble across

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. Figure out what kind of trick you need

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<v Speaker 2>to play on yourself to get out there. When you

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<v Speaker 2>have the chance, maybe you'll get lucky and find something

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<v Speaker 2>deer wise, that will really help you out this fall.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, who cares? You're going to be better off

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<v Speaker 2>just for going. Maybe that trout stream you don't fish

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<v Speaker 2>anymore because it's full of dinks is actually the best

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<v Speaker 2>spot for you to be, because, after all, who really

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be disappointed with a couple hours on

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<v Speaker 2>the water catching ten inches just for the hell of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That environment's going to treat you pretty well, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't come away with a single grip and grin

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<v Speaker 2>of a twenty seven inch brownie with a great big

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<v Speaker 2>hook jaw. Maybe most importantly understand this, everyone you know

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<v Speaker 2>is struggling. I mean that the folks who have tons

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<v Speaker 2>of money and the folks who have nothing. Sure, their

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<v Speaker 2>struggles are different, but everybody is carrying more weight on

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<v Speaker 2>their shoulders than it appears from the outside looking in.

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<v Speaker 2>The world is like this right now, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to get better. But the good news

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<v Speaker 2>is in all of that doom and gloom, you and

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<v Speaker 2>I already have the answer to some of these problems. Now, Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>a walk in the deerwoods in May won't cure your

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<v Speaker 2>bipolar disorder, just as it won't suddenly make your next

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<v Speaker 2>rent payment, but it'll take you from the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>despair to a place that's more tolerable and might help

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<v Speaker 2>you settle down enough to sleep better or make more

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<v Speaker 2>informed decisions about changing the things in your life that

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<v Speaker 2>you need to change. That's powerful shit, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>really easy to ignore while we stay home and doom

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<v Speaker 2>scroll while our spouse is negus about something we're definitely

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<v Speaker 2>going to do on our own time when we're damn

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<v Speaker 2>well ready, get out there amongst the trees and the

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<v Speaker 2>grasses and the bugs and Mark's butterflies and take your medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>My friends, It'll help nullify the sharp edges of everyday life,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you make a habit of this, it'll help

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<v Speaker 2>you understand that natural world in a better way. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that's not as cool as some dude telling you

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how to snoret wheeze, you know, to blind call

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<v Speaker 2>in every buck in the woods, but it's honestly a

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<v Speaker 2>better way to get better at this stuff, and it

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<v Speaker 2>comes with a hell of a lot of welcome side benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that and come back next week, because I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about you know, kind of a similar topic,

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<v Speaker 2>but not really. I'm gonna talk about hunting buddies or

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<v Speaker 2>how to find great ones and recognize the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>you just might not be compatible with. That's it for

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<v Speaker 2>this week. I'm Tony Peterson. This has been the Wired

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<v Speaker 2>to Hunt Foundations podcast, which is brought to you by

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<v Speaker 2>First Light. I know you know this. I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for listening. I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 2>much I appreciate it. I hope you come back next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you