1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your main energy, Marcus 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Grands still masking, socially distancing, waiting for the shot. All 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: that good stuff has been for a year plus now, 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: joined it always by producer Steve and a special guest today. 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: I am not going to wait to introduce this guy. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: You know him from You Who Sports. He is one 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: of the smartest, most creative, most innovative people, innovative people, 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I should say, in the fantasy industry. More importantly, he's 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: my friend. I am proud to call this man of friends. 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: So I am always excited to have Matt Harmont on 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the show. What's going on? Pal? You know that number one? 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: That was way too nice of an intro. But I 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: can't believe Marcus, that I have been a guest on 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: this podcast for a company that I no longer work 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: for two times in the last year, and I've only 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: seen you once over the last year. Like that, that 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: is the twist of all twists here in one. You know, 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: basically this whole year, it feels like it's one thing together. 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: But thank you so much for having me on, man, 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: and I am glad that we did just recently see 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: each other for your your your i mean handsome stud 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: of a birthday. Yeah, it was great. It was great 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: to see you and Bree out there. We did a 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: socially distanced beach party, a beach extravaganza for the boy 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: child for him turning two. And it was It's weird 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: because and I said this to you. I said this 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: to Alex Wilk and a lot of folks who were 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: out there that like, we talk all the time, like 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: on Slack and text message or whatever, so like you 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: sort of forget that you haven't seen these people in person, 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: uh in a really long time. So it was nice 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: to get together and uh you know, sharing adult beverage 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: and talk and you know, be face to face for once. Um. 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: So yeah cool. By the way, I think we still 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: have some burritos in the fridge. I can just I 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: can drive by and throw one into your yard. Yeah, 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: yeah sounds good. Just get it of the gate. If 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: you can just get it over the gate from your car, 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: that'll be great. Yeah, we will make that happen. Um. 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: First thing I should want to ask you before we 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: dive in, because I you know what I have you on. 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: I always want to talk wide receivers because that is 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: your stock in trade. Um. But before we dive into that, 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: I think probably by the time this podcast gets released, 46 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: uh if not, you know, probably shortly thereafter, I think 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: the league will have ratified the official seventeen game regular 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: season schedule. Um. Yeah, I want you got to get 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: your thoughts on it. I mean for us, that means 50 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: we were always holding onto the hey, don't play week 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: seventeen in fantasy? Does this mean we have to push 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: it back? Is it now don't play week eighteen? I mean, 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: what does this mean for us? Probably? I think I 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: think the answer to that question, probably all the questions 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: about that is like sort of a yeah, maybe, I 56 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: think so, because this really is uncharted territory. I mean, 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Marcus, but I feel like 58 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be saying, yeah, they'll They'll probably go eight 59 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: and eight, you know, for a decade, even though now 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: it's and I actually kind of hate that part of 61 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: this is not like a nuanced fantasy take soever. But 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: that is probably the thing that bothers me the most 63 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: about it, is like, you know, there's no longer balance 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: to the force basically, right, like eate the Jeff Fisher 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: of football seasons like that that is a good balance 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: of yeah, you're just very middle of the road mediocre 67 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: like now are like the our entire lexicon about like 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: records and who teams are have to change. I saw 69 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Neil Greenberg for from the Washington Post, who I used 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: to work for a hundred years ago. Now it feels 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: like he was talking to just about like, um, you know, 72 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: a thousand Like what is a thousand yards season worth 73 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: in a seventeen game schedules opposed to a sixteen game schedule? 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not really even ready to I 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: was even really very well think about that, right, like, 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: oh great, a guy gets a thousand yards, Like I've 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: always been like, that's a pretty decent measure of success, 78 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: even if obviously there's more passing than ever. Still, I 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: don't know, my my entire brain hasn't really wrapped around 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the change yet at this point. But it's coming. It's 81 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna be here, and you know, in some ways I 82 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but it's like more football is good, right, 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: like that that can in this situation just just tack 84 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: one more on. I'm sure it'll be it'll be fine. 85 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: And no big deal. I mean I think I think 86 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: the trade off is going to be you know, we 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 1: will have less preseason to worry about and in more 88 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: regular season, which I think is gonna be fine. Um. 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think we know for us, we get 90 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: to a point when you get to you know, August 91 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: where uh, you know, I run out of takes, so 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: like I need actual football to to replenish my my tacometer, 93 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: takometer whatever. Um. And so with preseason, with preseason, it's 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: always like that first you know, you know how it is, 95 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: and like especially working in NFL again, feels like a 96 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, like all of us together, and like 97 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: all the TVs are on when the first preseason week arrives. 98 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Hall of Fame games. Everyone 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: knows that's kind of weird or whatever. But like that 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: first week of preseason when there's all these games kicking off, 101 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: you start to get that like adrenaline rush of just 102 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: like oh, it's guys like out on the field in helmets, 103 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: in uniforms, and like Al Michael's and Chris Collin's worth 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: they're talking about it as as if it is the 105 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: second Coming. You know, it's this giant deal that we 106 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: should all be excited about, and then about fifteen minutes 107 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: into the game, you're like, all right, I'm not I 108 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: don't want to I don't care. I don't care about this. 109 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: But then you got to put up with that for 110 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: three more weeks plus that game that's still going on. 111 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: So I think if we can get past that, like 112 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: maybe just shorten that process, I'm okay with it. I 113 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: do like a little bit of preseason. I felt like 114 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: that was one thing that was lacking from the pandemic 115 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: adjusted season that I kind of missed, Like there there 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: are certain portions of like O. T A S and 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think the players will be happy 118 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: to see that go by the wayside, and I'm okay 119 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: with that too, especially the veteran guys. But some preseason 120 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: games to like see these guys, you know, getting deployed, 121 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: or just even just like that early glimpse of players. UM. 122 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: I do think that was was lacking a little bit 123 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: last year. So some level of preseason I'm excited to 124 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: have back. But I don't need the four weeks at 125 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: this point in one now. Definitely don't need that. Um 126 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, I look, we'll get that first quarter or 127 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: two when you get you know the guys that you 128 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: know are going to be of it and you see 129 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: them play and what have you. But you know, the 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: moment Nick Chump decides he has taken off the pads 131 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: for the rest of the day, it's like, all right, 132 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: well I can I can do something else now, all right? 133 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: See this is this is definitely gonna be a new 134 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: world for all of us as we kind of get 135 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: through this seventeen game season. By the way, you talked about, 136 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, a thousand yards season in seventeen games and 137 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: basically is about fifty nine rushing yards per game. That's 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: not great. Great, right, that's great. So that was a 139 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: yard season is probably meaning less and less, but we'll 140 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: still hold on to it because we love big round numbers. 141 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: And that's that's what happened. Yeah, all right, I gotta 142 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: ask because I want to talk wide receivers, like I said, 143 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: with you, because you are You're sort of the person 144 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: that I kind of measure a lot of my evaluations with. 145 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: Like when I when I have a take on a 146 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver and you have a similar take, I feel 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more confident. Um, we have disagree, we 148 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: have disagreed on things. We will continue to disagree on things. 149 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: But I know when I when you and I align that, 150 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I feel like I'm at least 151 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: I at least kind of know what I'm talking about here. So, um, 152 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: because you've been doing this, I mean, for you when 153 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: you are are looking at a guy, what matters and 154 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: what doesn't for you when evaluating receivers. Yeah, this is 155 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: probably the answer that people don't want to hear, but 156 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: one of the things that doesn't matter for you. But 157 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you kind of answer this. Well, I 158 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: think like markets, I you know, five years ago, I 159 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: would have said, yeah, drops are the thing that that 160 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. But now I almost like think 161 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: nothing matters. And that sounds like way more um like 162 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: that sounds way more nihilistic than I mean it to sound. 163 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: But originally when I started, yeah right each RVs get 164 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: that rosib sandwich. And but like when I first started 165 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: charting wide receivers at this point now like eight years 166 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: ago for reception perception and um really like starting the 167 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: published the content like seven years ago at this point. Um, 168 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: My my thought process behind doing it was that and 169 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: you know this and all your listeners know this, and 170 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: everybody that watches football apparently knows this. That wide receiver 171 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: production is so d dependent on other variables. Other things 172 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: have to go right to the point that now that 173 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: I've like looked at these receivers and tried to, you know, 174 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: with reception perception, isolate them as much as possible from 175 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: outside variables and just focus on their individual play. The 176 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: one thing that they can control is how often they 177 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: get open, how often they run good routes and present 178 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: that reasonable target to a quarterback. And that's another thing 179 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: too that I think targets will always matter because a target, 180 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: for the most part, is an indication that the quarterback 181 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: feels you did your job correctly, like you did enough 182 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: on this play to earn the target, or if you're 183 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: just getting a ton of targets, the team and the 184 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: quarterback in front office and everybody agrees you're good, right, 185 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: like we want to throw you the ball because you're 186 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: good for the most part, year over year. Targets are 187 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: stable because I think talent for the most part is stable. Um. 188 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: But when it comes to stats like catch rate, UM, 189 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: yards per target, even like yards per reception, every you're 190 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: welcoming in all of these other variables, whether it's the 191 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: quarterback play, like the offensive line giving the quarterback enough time. 192 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: So I think what matters is obviously volume, because I 193 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: think volume is is an indicator of talent. I'm more 194 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: bullish on that than ever. But I've almost become more 195 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: um radicalized by like watching wide receivers and trying to 196 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: measure them as individual players without the influence of other 197 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: variables that basically almost you know most of the stats 198 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: that evaluate the position um and you could you could 199 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: take this to other positions as well too, because the 200 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: same is true for running backs, right like yards per 201 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: carry is is not a is not a running back stat, 202 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a team stat. Almost everything in football, 203 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: you're you're counting on the ten other guys on on 204 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: your offense to do their job right just in order 205 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: to get that one to three, four or five yards 206 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. So I would say I've become more like 207 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: radical in my beliefs that stats do not do a 208 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: good job off of course, they matter for fantasy because 209 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: we're trying to score fantasy points, and there's more than 210 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: just talent that goes into it. But in terms of 211 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: like evaluating players right at the NFL level, I just 212 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: really don't care about almost any other statistical profile except 213 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: like how to measure them as individual talents. So you 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: talk about targets and you know and basically all the 215 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: moving parts that go into this. I know, we like 216 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: to say that certain guys are quarterback proof, right, I mean, 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if there's in in an example, uh, 218 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was one of one of your first 219 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: early hits and Alan Robinson, right, I mean, he's seen 220 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: he seems quarterback proofs simply for the fact that he's 221 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: never really had a good one that he's worked with. 222 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, is that is that really a thing? Is 223 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: there really such a guy, such a player as a 224 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: quarterback proof wide receiver or is it just something that 225 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: we just sort of, uh, we have coins because I 226 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: know we send to wish, we wish cast a lot 227 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: of things. Um, is it really a thing or or 228 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: is it you know, is it just us kind of 229 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 1: maybe lowering our expectations for somebody. Well, I guess that 230 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: they're like baseline answer is no, there's no quarterback proof 231 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver because of exactly what I just said, which 232 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: is there depends if you're just talking about like being 233 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: able to produce numbers and obviously then fantasy points and 234 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: everything like that. Yeah, you're gonna have to have some 235 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: some level of cooperation from the quarterback, right, Like you 236 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: need that guy to do his job at a baseline 237 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: level in order to produce I think that, you know, 238 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: no one's ever gonna say this, but I think it 239 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: needs to be said about the Bears coaching staff, Like 240 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something nice about Matt Naggi here, which 241 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: most folks don't want to do. But I actually think 242 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: if there's one thing that this coaching staff in Chicago 243 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: has done really well with Alan Robinson, it's putting him 244 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: in positions to be relatively quarterback proof. From it, from 245 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: a production standpoint, you see that they've lined him up 246 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: in the slot a lot more in Chicago than they 247 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: did in Jacksonville. He runs. Everybody wants to talk about 248 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas as like a slant boy or whatever, but um, 249 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: they've which is by the way, objectively hilarious. It's it's 250 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: an objectively good bit that clearly seems to bother Michael Thomas. 251 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: And usually if your bit is bothering the person, it's 252 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: about It means it's a good bit, you've you've been 253 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: on something. That's why the West Virginia bit was always yes, 254 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: because it clearly bothered me. So that means you hit 255 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: on something there that's good stuff. So the slamboy thing 256 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,239 Speaker 1: is objectively hilarious. But like that is one way to 257 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: make sure your quarterback, um, it doesn't have to do 258 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: as much to get the ball to that great wide receiver. 259 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: The Falcons have done that with Julio over the years. 260 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: The Bears have done that with Alan Robinson. Um. I remember, 261 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: you know when people would put up the numbers of 262 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: like DeAndre Hopkins with backup quarterbacks, which was basically like 263 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: every quarterback he played with in Houston before Watson and 264 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: like Antonio Brown with backups when Big Ben would would 265 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: would go out of the games or whatever, which was 266 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: which was quite often. But you know it's not as 267 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: I think the key there is like what type of 268 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: routes are they have an a b run We know 269 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: he was always a downfield guy for Pittsburgh as that 270 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: top X received or uh and and I think that's 271 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: the biggest is the biggest key to it is not 272 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: necessarily from like a talent perspective. Basically, any great wide 273 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: receiver can produce, but they have to be put in 274 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: good positions to do that, and I think Chicago has 275 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: since you brought up the Robinson example, is actually a 276 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: pretty good case study for you know, they took a 277 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: guy in Robinson who with the Jacksonville Jaguars was running 278 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: a lot of downfield routes, always getting press coverage, always 279 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: um facing those top outside cornerbacks. They've moved him around, 280 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: put him in favorable positions a lot more, and then 281 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, of course he doesn't have great quarterbacks, 282 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: but the last two years he's produced really well despite that, 283 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: to the point that you know, we all want him 284 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: to play with the great quarterback just because I think 285 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: he deserves it right, Like it's a thing that should happen. 286 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: But how much more could he actually produce in an 287 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: offense like in Green Bay across from a Damante Adams. 288 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: It's it's worth wondering, because he actually has put up 289 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: really good numbers with those bad quarterbacks, and I think 290 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: there's some credit that needs to be given to the 291 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: coaching staff making him quote quarterback proof in that way. 292 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: And I think, but I think you also hit on 293 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: another thing. So I say this a lot with draft prospects. 294 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: When you look at a guy, you know, like last year, 295 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: the thing being, hey, Jonathan Taylor doesn't catch the football right, 296 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: And I always respond with, look, just because we've never 297 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: seen a guy do a certain thing doesn't mean that 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: player can't do a certain thing right. And you talk 299 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: about Alan Robinson going from being a downfield guy to 300 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: more of a slot guy. It was a thing you 301 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: pointed out not that long ago about Nelson Aghore, right, 302 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: that he was sort of the underneath guy. He was 303 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: the short, high percentage, you know, reception guy in Philadelphia. 304 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: He goes to the Raiders and he ends up taking 305 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: that downfield role that we all thought was gonna belong 306 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: to Henry Ruggs. He thrived in it. I mean we 307 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: we certainly never thought. I mean, look, man, the meme 308 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: was about you know, catching babies, right, and like we 309 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't imagine Nelson Aghalore was going to be a 310 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: downfield threat, but but here he was. So I do 311 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: think that too with you know, say we go back 312 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: to Michael Thomas and the argument, right, he's slapt bowing 313 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: out because that's all the Saints really have asked him 314 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: to do and needed him to do, and he's excelled 315 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: at that. I do sort of wonder is he still 316 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: slant boy if if it's Jamis Winston for instance, that 317 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: wins the starting quarterback job. I mean, I can envision 318 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: a world where Michael Thomas is a little bit more 319 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: than slant boy, because we know Jamis is gonna stand 320 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: back there and just ripped yolo balls all day. You're 321 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: not gonna have You're not gonna have Michael Thomas wasting 322 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: his talents running slants with Jamis Wintson a quarterback. Right. Yeah, 323 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: I think when you look at you know, his reception 324 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: perception results Like some of the rot trees I've put 325 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: out for Thomas in UM two thousand eighteen, two thousand nineteen, 326 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at, and of course, like it's it's 327 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: much more of an injury riddled season, but like I 328 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: think he can win downfield. That's actually why I like 329 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: Thomas a lot as a prospect coming out, because he 330 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: got this sort of big possession receiver UM label put 331 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: on him. But you could clearly see at Ohio State 332 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: him winning against press coverage on the outside downfield, and 333 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, his numbers so far in that regard UH 334 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL have been really good. Again, when you're 335 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: just looking at him from an individual standpoint, because are 336 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: they asking him to run a lot of slant routes? 337 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: Like I think that, because I think you can get 338 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: in trouble with this, this line of thinking, because you know, 339 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: for example, Duke Johnson, everybody's favorite, like if they just 340 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: gave him a feature back job. Well, at some point, 341 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: multiple coaching staffs have decided they're not going to give 342 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: him a feature back job. Maybe there's a reason for that. 343 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Um Derrick Henry a guy, you know, I love Derrick Henry, 344 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: but there's been multiple coaching staffs at this point that 345 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: decided they're not going to make him a part of 346 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: the passing game. Is that just a is there a 347 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: reason for that? Like, I think you have to ask 348 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: you stuff the question. But with Thomas specifically, are they 349 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: ask him to just run slant routes high percentage patterns 350 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: because of him or because of the fact that Drew 351 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Brees was you know, I think rapidly declining over the 352 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: last couple of years. So you have to ask yourself 353 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: those questions. I do, And this is where I think 354 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: studying players from an individual perspective actually watching them play 355 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: beyond just the targets that they're getting. You know what 356 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: about the rest of the routes that they're running. Because 357 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: the receiver Marcus is lucky to get like ten targets 358 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: in a game, but we know they're running upwards of 359 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: like thirty something routes. So what are they doing on 360 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: all those other plays? And how can that be part 361 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: of the evaluation process? And I think when you look 362 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: at Thomas, that's why I'm not a big Jamis Winston fan, 363 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't particularly enjoy watching games in which Jameis 364 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: Winston is the quarterback. But I actually can't wait to 365 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: see this relationship develop because I think it's gonna answer 366 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about Michael Thomas and Thomas at 367 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: this point, Like, I bet you he'll be a value 368 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position this year because not just 369 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: because the injuries that he's coming off of, because of 370 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback questions and the fact that there's just a 371 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: ton of receivers um this year, Like he was going 372 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: as wide receiver one or two last year. You can't 373 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: even you can't even really conceivably put him in the 374 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: top seven this year. But if Winston and him hit together, 375 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: it should be a fun year for him. I mean, 376 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: we did a moth draft and this is you know, 377 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: over a month ago now. But I was surprised he 378 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: felt I think the third or fourth round something like that, 379 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: which which blew my mind. I mean, I expected him 380 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: to fall a little bit. I didn't think he would 381 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: last that long. But I do think you're right. If look, 382 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: if it's if it's shame is Winston, I feel a 383 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: lot better about it than if it's Taysom Hill that 384 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: takes the quarterback spot. I mean, I think that that 385 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: sort of goes without saying. Um. We also talk about 386 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers and how deep the position is, and this 387 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: is something I've you know, I've asked you this in 388 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: slack and I just want to get your your public 389 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on this because I don't know the answer. I'm 390 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: just more, you know, as they say, I'm just asking questions. 391 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: Is it that is it that wide receiver really is 392 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: deep in terms of talent? Or is it just that 393 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: teams are so past happy and so many teams run 394 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: three and four even five wide receiver sets that there's 395 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: just a lot of them that we have a lot 396 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: of options, Like is it truly deep or there's just 397 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: a lot if you know what I'm saying. I think 398 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of both, because I think this 399 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: is a situation where hashtag both things can be true. 400 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: Like there's definitely more wide receiver options available than ever. 401 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: You know, you think about that two thousand fifteen season 402 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: where um, I think Julio Jones hit like two hundred targets, 403 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was over a hundred eighty. Like, we're not 404 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: seeing that at this point anymore. Passing games are much 405 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: more spread out to where the third wide receiver on 406 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: an offense can actually be pretty relevant if they throw 407 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: the ball enough. You know. Again, passing games are just 408 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: more spread out. There's also more passes going to running backs. Um, 409 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, tight end is always a weird position, but 410 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: you know those positions are involved as well too, So 411 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: there's there are definitely more wide receiver options, and I 412 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: think that is, of course, because the league is more 413 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: pass happy than ever. However, Man, you know, I'm getting 414 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: back into prospect work, Marcus with reception perception. You know, 415 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: right now, I got I got to Mark Chase over here. 416 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: On the other screen. I'm gonna finish him up today 417 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: and start moving down the list a little more. Um. 418 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I've also been going back 419 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: into the RP databases with prospects, and dude, you go 420 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: back to that like seventeen draft class, there are some ugly, 421 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: ugly names that were like wide receiver ten that year. 422 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about like our Darius Stewart, Um, 423 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Malachi Dupre, Carlos Henderson. Uh. You know, may I love 424 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: Carlos Henderson by the way, Sharone Peak, um, and those 425 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: are just like the depth names. And we know all 426 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: those bigger busts like Corey Coleman, Josh Doxton, La Kwan Treadwell. Um, 427 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, Pharrell Cooper was a guy people were really into. 428 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Those were bad wide receiver classes. And I think most 429 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: people thoughten and twenty nineteen would be similarly weaker classes. 430 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: But man, like the stars of today and tomorrow really 431 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: did come from that twenty nineteen class, and I think 432 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: has been underrated to like a lot of people thought 433 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: that this was just gonna be a crop of like 434 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver two type of guys. But Cortland Sutton is 435 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: someone that people forget about because he was injured last year. 436 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, I think is legit ready to be a 437 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: top ten receiver in the league. But make your like 438 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: try to de list out like the top ten receivers 439 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's hard. Like there's a lot of 440 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: really good players at the position, and that doesn't even 441 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: touch on the class, which I think was everything that 442 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: was hyped up to be. Like, there was a lot 443 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: of really good rookies that came from that class, including 444 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: one guy in Justin Jefferson, who I think played like 445 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: a top ten, top fifteen individual wide receiver in his 446 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: own right as a rookie, and like the rest of 447 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: those guys who could get better. So I do think 448 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: the last three draft classes have beefed up and flushed 449 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: the position with talent. But you're right in saying also 450 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: that it is more spread out than ever and that's 451 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: gonna gonna change the way guys produce in the league 452 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: as well. So that that brings me to the question 453 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: I really just thought about, And I hate to put 454 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: this in the atmosphere, but you know, far be it 455 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: from me to run away from a bad idea at 456 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: any point um any world where people talk about running 457 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: backs being replaceable? Are we headed that way with? Why? 458 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: If there are so many wide receivers, there's so many 459 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: good ones and there seemed to be more. I mean, 460 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: look at this class. You talk about Jamaar, Chase, DeVante 461 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Smith and j litt Waddle and you know, go on 462 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: and on and on down this list. Um, are we 463 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: are we frightfully heading towards that point where suddenly wide 464 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: receiver becomes And this has nothing to do with fantasy. 465 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: This is more I think real football, but where you know, 466 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about why would why would you pay this 467 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: guy a big contract because you can just go out 468 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: and draft another guy and pay him far less. I 469 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like we're headed that direction to 470 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: with wide receiver, and it scares me and makes me 471 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: a little sad. Yeah, I agree, I agree with you completely. 472 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: It's it's on my radar as well. And I think 473 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: the market this year showed us exactly how it's gonna go, 474 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: which is and I know that this is a weird 475 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: salary cap here, so maybe me trying to learn lessons 476 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: from this is a stupid and foolish, but um just 477 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: let's let's play this out for a second. You know, 478 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: guys that were clear cut number two wide receivers didn't 479 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: get that big time money. Juju Smith Schuster went back 480 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: to his team. I think he's a clear cut number two. Um, 481 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, Will Fuller is probably a two that also 482 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: had He's played like he played like a one last year, 483 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: but he had a lot of he has a lot 484 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: of questions, right, he only ended up getting a one 485 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: year deal. That wide receiver market was more depress us, 486 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: even Corey Davis. Like people look at the Corey Davis 487 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: consins like a contract like, oh, you got a lot 488 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: of money, but like he's about the twentieth highest paid 489 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL. Like that's pretty that's fine 490 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: for number two receiver. Those guys weren't paid that big 491 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: big money. Teams didn't get aggressive for them. Um. Just 492 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: like and it's it's a much more drastic situation at 493 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: running back. But like you know, nobody on the on 494 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: the running back market got paid except the Packers found 495 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: a way to pay Aaron Jones, just like the Giants 496 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: found a way to pay Kenny Golladay. And you know, 497 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: I thought the whole narrative that guys like Allen Robinson 498 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: or Chris Godwin saw the wide receiver market like, oh, 499 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: let me go sign that franchise tag right away. I 500 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: think that's stupid because let me tell you what if 501 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson hit the market, if Chris god would hit 502 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: the market, teams would find a way to pay those guys. 503 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Like I think great players at wide receiver will still 504 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: get paid. But I wonder about a team in Dallas 505 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: last year that that looked at a Marie Cooper and 506 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: they gave him, like, you know, the twenty two million 507 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: dollar a year deal. I wonder if they regret that 508 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: a little bit because then they turn around and draft 509 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: a first round wide receiver who played well. They still 510 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: have Michael Gallup in there. And I'm not saying they 511 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: would be a better team without a Marii Cooper, just 512 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: like I think it's kind of crazy to argue that 513 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: the Packers would be a better team without Aaron Jones. 514 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: Like I think having Aaron Jones moves the needle for them, 515 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: but it's just a question of how much. And I 516 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: think teams at the you know, free agent market is 517 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: one thing, but then I think it's really gonna like 518 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: the Rubbers gonna hit the road in the draft, where 519 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, a team like Miami at the sixth overall 520 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: picked where they trade back up to. I think they 521 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: clearly did that to put themselves in a position to 522 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: take a pass catcher. But if I'm them, I'm gonna 523 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: take Kyle Pitts there. Even if I love Chase, I 524 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: love Smith, Um, I'm gonna take the guy at a 525 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: rarer position to find where I think they can get 526 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: another wide receiver to pair with Parker and Fuller for 527 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: this year. I think they can get that guy, probably 528 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: in the second or third round. If the Dolphins draft 529 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, that would cure me of my late on 530 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: Mike gasicky addiction. That would you don't have to worry 531 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: about that case. Is their slot receiver man, Like he 532 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: never he never lines up at that true tight end position. 533 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: He's always out there um in the slot like he's 534 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: basically they're they're Wes Welker just you know, the giant 535 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: person this huge right. Like if I guarantee you if 536 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Mike Kasecki got a franchise tag Marcus, his reps would 537 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: one be at the negotiating table, like look at look 538 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: at the numbers man, Look at where this guy finds 539 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: up like he's a wide receiver. You have to tag 540 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: him at the wide receiver number. So it's good, It's fine, 541 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: both those guys, both those guys can be alright, alright cool. 542 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Then that means I'm gonna once again draft Mike Ga 543 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: sicky and like the tenth round and then in week four, 544 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: why did I do this? Why don't he too? Um? 545 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: So I want to get not just on a few 546 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: of the guys who did sign in free agency, just 547 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: kind of your quick like is this good bad? Or 548 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: as you would say, has it met? Um you mentioned 549 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: Keimy Golladay. I felt like, after like a few days 550 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: of free beca see, I realized that I feel like 551 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: the fantasy community value Kenny Dolladay a lot higher than 552 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: I think the rest of the NFL did. But he 553 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: does land in New York with the Giants. I saw 554 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: it was kind of immediately like it's fine. I mean, 555 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: are you do you feel any differently? Is this good? Bad? 556 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: And different? How are you on this one? Yeah? I 557 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: think it's a good move for the Giants because I 558 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: think he puts like the finishing touch on their wide 559 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: receiver corps. But you know, I remember going into the 560 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: free agency process, when it was clear that the the 561 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Giants wanted to add a receiver, everybody was pushing, like, 562 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, a receiver to the Giants. My question with 563 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: the Giants because you know, Marcus, this is something I've 564 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: realized too, you know, and maybe I should have realized 565 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: this earlier. But you know, by spending all this time 566 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: with wide receivers, I'm inherently spending a lot of time 567 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, right and after a while, when when you 568 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: when you figure out which wide receiver like thrives with 569 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback and which type of which what which type 570 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: of wide receiver does the quarterback gravitate to, you start 571 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: to figure out a few things about the quarterback. I 572 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: always come back to two examples, one Jared Goff and 573 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. I think Jared Goff loved to throw a 574 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup because Cooper Cup was always schemed open really 575 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: well against these zone coverage. Looks like Jared Goff wants 576 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: to see that guy open and throw it to him. 577 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to antarticipate a lot of things. He 578 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: doesn't want to, you know, have to go through the 579 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: whole process of the play. This is very much like 580 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: you know, Sean McVeigh and his ear ahead of time, like, hey, Jared, Jared, 581 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: pay attention to me. Cooper is gonna be open. You 582 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be open because I've got to get toot. 583 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: Like you'd start to learn about a quarterback that way. 584 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: Same with um with Michael Crabstree when he went from 585 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco to Oakland, that was one of the early 586 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: reception perception hits, like, you know, because I don't think 587 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: he fit with the type of quarterback to Colin Kaepernick 588 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: had developed into at that point in his career. But 589 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, for all of his flaws, he's very good 590 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: as a timing, anticipation passer and a guy that say crafty, 591 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, physically declining type of route runner as Michael 592 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: crabs you was that when his career, those two guys 593 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: drived really well together. So, like I said, when you 594 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: when you figure out what type of receiver a quarterback like, 595 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: you kind of start to figure out a few things 596 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: about the quarterback. I say all this to to to 597 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: the point that when we were trying to match make 598 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: receivers to New York, I'm like, I don't know about you, Marcus, 599 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: but I feel like I still don't really know, like 600 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: what are Daniel Jones as a pastor, Like he's definitely 601 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: he's tough as hell. He'll sometimes to a fault like 602 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: stand back there in the pocket and take that hit um, 603 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's I think obviously the mobility is 604 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: a plus part to him. But I don't really know 605 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: who Daniel Jones is as a passer, So I'm always 606 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: kind of like, I'm not sure which wide receiver is 607 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: really going to be great for him. That said, take 608 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: stupid thing to say, but take the quarterback out of 609 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: it for a second. This receiver corps is really well 610 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: set up, because I think Golladay might not be a 611 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: true number one receiver, but I think he's right on 612 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: the fringe of that conversation. I think if he had 613 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: had a great season in twenties, like I think, team 614 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: he's underrated really good. You know, people talk about him 615 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: as if he's like a Kelvin Benjamin type of separator. 616 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: I think he's better than like, I think he's, like 617 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: I said, right on the fringe of that true number 618 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: one receiver mold. Had he stacked two great seasons back 619 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: to back, we'd probably all agree he's in that conversation, 620 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: but um, for now, he's their number one, A great 621 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: deep threat ex receiver that I think could also work 622 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Slayton is a really solid 623 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: like sort of on that Marvin Jones career path where 624 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: he can get deep, he can win fifty balls, but 625 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: he should be a number two receiver for sure. Uh 626 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 1: And Serving Shepherds a slot receiver that I've always really liked. 627 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: And they have some interesting options at tight end. And 628 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram and Kyle Rudolph and obviously say Kwon Barkley 629 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: coming back. This the skilled position group in New York 630 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 1: looks really good. We just have questions about the offensive 631 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: coordinator and the quarterback. So that that's where it questions, 632 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 1: pretty pretty big questions questions. All Right, you mentioned the Dolphins, right, 633 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Will Fuller going there on? I would say this on 634 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: the surface, I looked at that and I'm like, I, no, 635 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: man like this to throw the ball deep enough? And yeah, 636 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: you look. You actually looked at his his air yards 637 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: per target. It was higher than I anticipated it being. 638 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: I also went back and watched some of his games 639 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: in that last full healthy season he had in Alabama, 640 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: and there he was not afraid to throw the ball downfield. 641 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: So I'm starting to maybe change my tune about Will 642 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: Fuller in Miami. Um, do you like it? And does 643 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: it do you like it less? If they draft a 644 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver this year, Um, I think it's good for two. Uh, 645 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: like all of these guys, I'm not sure that any 646 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: of them outside of Curtis Samuel, I'm like itch into 647 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: draft this year, right, But I think it's but I 648 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: think it's good for the offenses and and and sometimes 649 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that they're going to. You know, we just 650 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: talked about Daniel Jones, right like, I think Daniel Jones 651 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: is being set up to like quote B, this year's 652 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's just whether he's actually good enough, right Like, 653 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: the team has done enough to make his life easier. 654 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: I love that the Dolphins are doing the same thing here, 655 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: making to his life easier because you know, Parkers are 656 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: great fifty ball receiver, but he's not a great separator. 657 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: I think Fuller wins across the route tree. I think 658 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: he can win on those slant routes that two is 659 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: great at throwing in terms of anticipation there. You know, 660 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: he's another guy that I think is can can be 661 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: that timing rhythm passer when he's at his best. Um, 662 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: you know with Fitzpatrick last year, like obviously always encouraging 663 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: him too, he's got to pull the trigger a little bit. 664 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: He did not do that very often as a rookie. 665 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: I think that was probably too as big as problem, 666 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: but I still think it never gets talked about enough. 667 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: With two Like this guy was legitimately coming back from 668 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: what could have been a career ending injury. Like that 669 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: hip situation was no joke. We were looking at him like, man, 670 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: is this guy ever gonna be able to walk again? 671 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: And now you know we're trying to like we're saying, well, 672 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: five games in his rookie season, he hasn't played well. 673 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: Like time to move on, Like put him on the 674 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen plan. I like them giving you another chance. 675 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: And again I wouldn't hate it if they do draft 676 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: another receiver, if they draft, because I think there's there's 677 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: more room to to work within this passing game. You 678 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: just look at what Too I was playing with last year. 679 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: It was rough. I mean we're talking about Isaiah ford 680 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Off and on the roster um Jachim Grant is like 681 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: potentially their number two targets at different times. Mike Kasecki 682 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: was okay, but he wasn't great. I think if you're 683 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: looking at a situation where you've got Parker and Fuller 684 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: as your top two receivers and a rookie in there, 685 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: whether it's Kyle Pitts or another receiver, I think two 686 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: was suddenly looking at a really good supporting cast, and 687 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: I think that would be good. It's good news for 688 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: him because I would love to see him make it 689 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: this year again, probably not itching to draft anyone from 690 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: this offense and fantasy just I mean, we have to 691 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: see where they want to go. But I do like 692 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: the way it's setting up right now. I do think 693 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: the point though you mentioned, and I think I've talked 694 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: about it with with Michael left Florio on this show, 695 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: about the hip injury and how serious that I mean 696 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: this This was the same hip injury that Low many 697 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: years ago essentially ended Bo Jackson's football career. Obviously, medicine 698 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: has come a long way since then, and so that's 699 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: why we see two of back on the field. But 700 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: I do think it's very premature when he has a 701 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: couple of games that aren't great. Meanwhile, Justin Herbert is 702 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: bawling out for the Chargers, and everybody's like we should 703 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: have drafted Justin Herbert. It's like, well, let's let's give 704 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: it a minute I have here before we make these pronouncements. Um, 705 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: so you sort of let me in on how you 706 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: feel about Juju. Uh. This is the part though, where 707 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: I stand back and let you wax poetic about Curtis 708 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Samuel going to the football team. Yeah, to be clear, 709 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: like you know, Juju, it's probably a smart decision for him, right, 710 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Like you know, don't move whatever. I don't know. Well, 711 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. You could go back and forth on 712 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: on Curtis Samuel to the Washington football team. I mean, 713 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: I love this move and this is a this is 714 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: a great example of just because we saw him hit 715 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: in this gadget role last year doesn't mean he can't 716 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: be a true receiver because he was playing with Kyle 717 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Allen in two thousand nine. Team um Man, I think 718 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: Samuel can do it all. I think he can win 719 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: as a true wide receiver. Obviously they're gonna do some 720 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: creative things with him, whether it's the Jets, weeps like 721 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: sometimes haven't played running back. I actually think him and 722 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson could be you know, like sometimes you line 723 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: Samuel up in the backfield and you line Antonio Gibson 724 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: in the slot. But I think they can do a 725 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: lot of creative things there. I also just love Fitzpatrick 726 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: as the point guard of this offense because you know, 727 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: you're looking at two guys in Samuel and mclauren. I 728 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: think I think with Lauren, Marcus is like ready to 729 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: take that superstar leap. I think he could be a 730 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: true alpha number one receiver. You know, I was excited 731 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: to draft him in the fourth round of Fantasy last 732 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: year as like the aggressive move, and you know that 733 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: was that was an okay situation. But I think having 734 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or you know, even Taylor Heinik, who's like, you know, Fitzpatrick, 735 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: but younger and not as good, but like the same 736 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: sort of reckless, abandoned style, which is why Taylor is 737 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: always hurt um. I think that's just such a big 738 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 1: upgrade from what they had last year with like what's 739 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: left of Alex Smith and obviously Dwayne Haskins, who just 740 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: really couldn't run that offense at all the way they 741 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: wanted him to. I really look I'm I'm finding it 742 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: hard to not be like so bullish about this washing offense, 743 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: which I know is gonna I probably it's probably not 744 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna work out, but man it is. It is hard 745 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: to not get excited when you look at them on paper. Again, 746 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick like as that that buffer for fantasy quarterbacks, Like 747 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: he's gonna beef up production for your wide receiver. He's 748 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: gonna beef up production for your passing game. We've just 749 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: seen that over the last three to five years of 750 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: his career. He's been a big boost for fantasy pass 751 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: catchers and mclauren I think is a guy that's ready 752 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: to take that leap. I think Samuel is an ideal 753 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: number two receiver that can get open at all levels 754 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: but also do some of the gadget stuff. And hey, 755 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: the pride of Lynchburg, Virginia, Logan Thomas, I think I 756 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: was ready for. He sort of had that poor man's 757 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Darren Waller type leap to him last year that I 758 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: think he could be sort of in the same way 759 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: as like their slot receiver guy. They could add more 760 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: piece in the draft too, but just on paper. Right now, 761 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: this is an offense that I'm excited to like draft 762 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of players from the football team, which is 763 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd be scared. Now let me tell 764 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: you what it's weird. We haven't said that in a 765 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: long time, if ever, but here we are. Uh yeah, 766 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: it's been it's been a wild year. Pandemic has done 767 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: them crazy things to all of us. Um, so staying 768 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: in the d m V if we will. Uh, look, 769 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: I know nobody's really excited to draft Sammy Watkins. He'll 770 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: give you a huge Week one and then who knows 771 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: who's gonna happen after that. But just sort of what 772 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: this means for Lamar Jackson and and the r and 773 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: you know our are our good pal Patrick Claibonne, who 774 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: is arguably one of the because Lamar Jackson stands out there. 775 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: I know he had a little bit of heartburn when 776 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: he saw this move. Um, what does this mean? And 777 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: this can't be it? Right? Like the Ravens still have 778 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: to be looking at maybe drafting a wide receiver at 779 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: some point, right, poor poor Patrick claim I saw him 780 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: getting his hopes up about like Kenny Golladay or Allen Robins, 781 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, back in February. And I'm just thinking to myself, like, 782 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. And I 783 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: think you take the like the Lamar part again, take 784 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: it out of it, because I think I do think 785 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: there's something to the narrative that receivers probably don't want 786 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: to go play for for Baltimore. And it might not 787 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 1: be because they might love Lamar Jackson. I think players 788 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: do love Lamar Jackson, but they probably don't like the 789 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: run to pass ratio in Baltimore. You know, how many 790 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: targets are you realistically gonna get if you're Alan Robinson 791 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: or you're Kenny Golladay especially, you know, take those guys 792 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: out of it too, because some of these players that 793 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: were signing like one year proven deals, you know, if 794 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: you're Juju and like they gave I think Juju would 795 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: have been like a perfect fit where really the perfect 796 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: fit for Baltimore was Chris Godwin, but obviously he was 797 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: never going to get on the market. Juju sort of 798 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: is like the in my opinion, like ultra poor man's 799 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: version of Chris Godwin, but like they run the routes 800 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: in the same area of the field. Um, they're both 801 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: really tough, physical, good blockers. I think he would have 802 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: been a good fit there theoretically. But if you're Juju, 803 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: you're like, well, this offense that I was in last year, 804 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm familiar with we we we throw the ball way 805 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: too much. Would I rather think when you deal here 806 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: and just not move and be familiar? Would I rather 807 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: go get like eighty targets in Baltimore because that's probably 808 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: the best you're looking at on a one year proofn deal. 809 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense unless you're Sammy Watkins and you 810 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: you have a lot to prove, right um, and you're 811 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: just kind of maybe ring chasing at this point. And 812 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: and Baltimore is still a really good team in the 813 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: a f C. So I think Baltimore is not done 814 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: at the position. I would be surprised if they don't 815 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: take another couple of pass catchers in the draft, because 816 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think Hollywood Brown can still be a 817 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: good player. He probably shouldn't be your number one receiver, 818 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: but I think he can be. Really I like the 819 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: way they started to get him on some layup routes 820 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: towards the end of last year, you know, because I 821 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: think he is an underrated technician number one. But also 822 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: I think Greg Roman and like that Baltimore coaching staff 823 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: was just kind of over obsessed with trying to work 824 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: the deep ball when your quarterback best the best part 825 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: of him as a passer, because I think it would 826 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: be disingenuous to pretend that Lamar Jackson hasn't always had 827 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: a bit of a problem throwing deep and outside the numbers, 828 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: Like those were the same questions that we're on a 829 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: scouting report coming into the NFL. So it's fair to 830 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: say that's not the strength of his game. But I 831 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: think he's great at working the middle of the field 832 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: and like matriculating the offense that way, like Hollywood. Brown 833 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: can run some of those routes, but I would love 834 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: to see them also add another big body receiver to 835 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: do that type of stuff. That's where I think a 836 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: big slot type of player would be a really good 837 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: fit for them. I will say I did start to 838 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: buy more into Marques Brown late in the season when 839 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: it looked like the Ravens coaching staff was like, oh, hey, 840 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: maybe we should have him do other things instead of 841 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: just run verts all the time. So so that would 842 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, you know, now, I get it, Now 843 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: I can maybe you know understand what were the excitement 844 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: is coming from. Um So, I mean, obviously since I 845 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: have known you, you have been working on reception perception 846 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: for a very long time. I will say that when 847 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: when when we first thought about bringing you out from 848 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, from West Virginia's Who Lost. I mean, part 849 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: of part of what what Alex Taylhar and I first 850 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: knew about you was reception perception. I have been so 851 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: happy to see it grow, uh to the point that 852 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: now you know, you have you have built your own thing, 853 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: You've got your own website, now you're you You've kind 854 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: of jumped off the cliff and are are flying on 855 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,479 Speaker 1: your own. So I'm super happy for you, super proud 856 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: of you. I gotta first asked, like, I mean, when 857 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: when you first decided this? I mean, how did this? 858 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: How did this seed grow into the tree that it 859 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: is now? Yeah, it's it's a lot of the same 860 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: stuff that we've been talking about on the podcast, which 861 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: is again we know wide receiver production is so inherently 862 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: tied to all of these other variables. Basically, that was 863 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: the big question that I had about football and you know, 864 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: wanting to turn covering football into a career when you are, 865 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: um me who I'm still a no body, But I 866 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: was definitely a nobody back then, right, Like I was 867 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: a sociology student in a one bedroom apartment in Lynchburg, Virginia, Virginia, 868 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: Virginia now West Virginia. For the new people, for the 869 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: new people out there, it might not be familiar with this, 870 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: been I have not from West Virginia, from the great 871 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: state of Virginia, representing the Appalachian Trail here which does 872 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: go through West Virginia. Now I'm not really I'm not 873 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: really not really doing so many any favors. But the 874 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: point is, you know, I was sitting there and like 875 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how could I break into this 876 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: very crowded space when I didn't, you know, play in 877 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't have media connections at all. Um. 878 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: I thought the smartest thing to do was to try 879 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: to answer the biggest question that I had about football. 880 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: My big question about football is when we're sitting there 881 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: on Sundays and these receivers run off the screen, what 882 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: what are they doing? You know, what's going on? Because again, 883 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: how are we evaluating them when when I said earlier, 884 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 1: receiver is lucky to again get ten targets in a game, 885 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: but there's you know, six to seventy off some plays 886 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: in a game or something like that. Someone should be 887 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: like charting that out. Someone should be trying to quantify 888 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: this qualitative thing of like this guy is a great 889 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: route runner, or this these receivers don't get any separation 890 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: for this quarterback. I was like, somebody should be trying 891 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: to go and measure that. So I just decided to 892 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: be that that somebody, um and and dedicate the absurd 893 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: amount of time that it takes to do that. It 894 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: takes to do just that. Well, you know, it's the 895 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: other part of that too, is that you know, for 896 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: all these years when you watch football and as you say, 897 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: the receiver run off the screen. The best part of that, 898 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: every wide receiver will tell you that he was probably 899 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: open on that specific play. And you know, like for 900 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: if you're just you know, the average fan watching television, 901 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: you can't refute that because you don't ever see them 902 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: at Uh. So this is this kind of this kind 903 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: of stands to do that funny, funny story on that 904 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: on that specific um. The video on the homepage of 905 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: reception perception dot Com is a is a little chat 906 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: I had with Stefan Diggs UM and it's like it's 907 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: a throwback to our very first conversation, the first time 908 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: that we met, because we talked several times over the 909 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: years and Um, I he he likes to say we're 910 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: best friends, but we're you know, we're just don't push 911 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: it stuff on UM. But he uh, he was basically 912 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: like at this event for for Yahoo or whatever when 913 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: I first started back in the summer of two thousand eighteen. 914 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: So he's coming off that Minneapolis miracle moment when Stefan 915 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: like sort of first started to hit the scene as 916 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: as a well known NFL player. And I told him, 917 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: I said, I was like, hey, I do this series 918 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: called Reception Perception. It's on video, like a series called 919 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: reception Perception, right chart, you know, route running and try 920 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: to evaluate that. Um, and you were the best player 921 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: against man coverage from the two thousand seventeen season, Like, 922 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, what's your reaction on that? And he was basically, yeah, 923 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, receivers lie and say that they're they're they're 924 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: always open. But he's like, I like to think I'm 925 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: pretty good at it, So I think you got your 926 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: on the right track. But there's a fun video. People 927 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: want to go like check that out. But yeah, you're right, 928 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: Like receivers are always uh saying they're they're open a 929 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent of time. Nobody's open a hundred percent of 930 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: the time. But and that's another thing too, Like I 931 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: have now that I've studied this for seven NFL seasons, 932 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: there's there's no doubt that there's a correlation to getting 933 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: open and being successful wide out. Like just because you're 934 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: you don't have a high success rate verse man coverage 935 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: score doesn't mean you're not good, but um, you can 936 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: still produce. It just about finding the right role for you. Um, 937 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: you know there's play. A Cooper Cup is a great example. 938 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: We talked about Juju, Like these guys line them up 939 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: in the slot and you don't have to worry about 940 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: the fact that they can't get off press man coverage, 941 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: Like they'll figure you figure out a way to get 942 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 1: players in the right position. But what we have noticed 943 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: over the years studying UH these metrics and reception perception 944 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: is that if you're good in this series, if you're 945 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: over that centile, at some point, you're going to have 946 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: a successful NFL season. Uh. There are very few guys 947 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 1: that were holding you know, holding out for in terms 948 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 1: of you know, Anthony Miller, I never gonna break out, 949 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: But that might be the only one. Um with Cordarol Patterson, 950 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: the first one without your first evaluation, yes and no. 951 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: So actually the first one was Jordy Nelson, the second 952 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: one was Corderol Patterson. And this is that's such a 953 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: fun story to bring up because you know, if you 954 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: go back to like backyard banter those days, due perception 955 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: perception there. Yeah, the real throw back that Corderol Patterson 956 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: article is is very like, hey, this is a guy 957 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: we should be excited about because he had about a 958 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: forty nine percent success rate verse man coverage. Like that's 959 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: almost that's that's that's pretty good. And now like that 960 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: was literally the second player I ever fully profiled right 961 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: now that I've got over two hundred eighty in the database. Um, 962 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: we know that is horrible. Like, that's not good. That 963 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: is an indication of of of a Marquise Lead type 964 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: of guy who was probably a Kelvin Benjamin gonna wash 965 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: out of the league. Why did you have to bring 966 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: up Marquis Lee? Why did you have to you have 967 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: to do that? I'm sorry, you know I had to 968 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: do that. History. We're talking history and traditions here, Marcus. 969 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: That must be. But you know we're talking about guys 970 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: that like, yeah, I're probably never going to be that 971 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: good in the league. And you know, shout out to 972 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: Cordaro Patterson running back. Uh. I mean, look, he's made 973 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: a name for himself as a kick return He's been 974 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: great as one of the best kick returners to ever live. 975 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: So so, I mean, you know, he's figured out a 976 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: way to make a living in the NFL without a doubt. Um. So, 977 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: I mean you have the new side with which looks great. 978 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: Reception perception dot com. Uh, for folks who are subscribers, 979 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: what what sort of things can they expect from you? Yeah? Basically, Um, 980 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with reception, perception, all of the things 981 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: that you are used to getting, um, you're gonna get those. 982 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: But but more, um My, my partner and I will 983 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: be releasing the subscriber like you can make partner is right. 984 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: We we all know, we all know who he is. 985 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: You can you can guys, James James Co my my good, 986 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: my good, my good good, pal James Co and I 987 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: will be releasing like the exact subscribe or pricing and 988 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: like exactly what you get out of each one. But 989 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, based on where you purchase in is how 990 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: much access you'll get to this data if you brought 991 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 1: if you buy the top tier packaging. I won't reveal 992 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: all the fund names we've got for them, but those 993 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: those fun Um, you know you can get access to 994 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: the all of the reception perception players I've ever charted, 995 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: like ever in the data base going back to two 996 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. Um, you know, when you just by like 997 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: the basic package, you'll get profiles for every rookie and 998 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: NFL player that I've charted. Um, you'll get sortable data 999 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: tables where you can see like literally sort for yourself 1000 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: who's the best against man COVERAG, who's the best against 1001 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: press zone, who's the best that run on the nine route? 1002 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: All that stuff. So basically anything you're used to getting 1003 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: the perception perception, you're gonna get that and more. UM. 1004 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: I think the profiles on the site are easier to 1005 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: digest than ever. Um you can simply like go in 1006 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: there and be like, Okay, I don't need to go 1007 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: through all these data tables, Like I'm sure there's some 1008 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: dork that would love to do that, But let me 1009 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: pay the basic package price and just go see, Like, Okay, 1010 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: what does Matt think about Curtis Samuel Lore, you know, 1011 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: freaking Larry Fitzgerald at this point or something like that. 1012 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: Everybody will be in there, There's gonna be there's gonna 1013 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: be more players charted than ever. And the biggest thing 1014 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: right now is rookies will be on the site. By 1015 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: by the NFL Draft, there will be at least ten 1016 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: rookies profiled. And it is an exciting, fun class. So 1017 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: I think people are gonna dig it. So I have 1018 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: I have a legacy idea. This is this big picture 1019 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 1: down the road, not not any anything I would expect soon, 1020 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: but what I would love and and I'm just throwing 1021 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: out the idea. I'm not giving you the detail on 1022 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: how to do it because it seems hard. Um, I'm 1023 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: just a big picture guy here. I would love to 1024 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: see like a legacy reception perception section where maybe every 1025 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: year you release one guy right where you go back 1026 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: and you dig through a particular season right where you're 1027 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: like Calvin Johnson's twenty twelve year when he just missed 1028 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: the thousand receiving yards or you know, one of Jerry 1029 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: Rice's big seasons where you can some if you can somehow, 1030 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: And like I know you're you know, trying to get 1031 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: sixteen games of that is gonna be tough. But if 1032 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: there was a way to do that, I think that 1033 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: would be a fun thing to do. Again, this is 1034 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: way down the road. This is an idea you can 1035 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: keep in your back pocket for the future. But I 1036 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: just think, I think, you know, I think what made 1037 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: me think of this. I remember, uh, the year Christian 1038 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: McCaffrey was was in the draft. I feel like me, 1039 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: you and Alex Galhart started talking about Ed McCaffrey, and 1040 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: both Gailhard and I were like, you would have loved 1041 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 1: Ed McCaffrey, Like we felt like he would have done 1042 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: well in the RP metrics. Um. Yeah, And so I 1043 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, that's a that's a that's an 1044 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: idea you can put in your back pocket and use 1045 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 1: it down the road once you guys are up and 1046 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: completely established and successful. Actually, I mean, like all great ideas, 1047 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: I've already had this idea. Now that was actually something dude, 1048 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: when I was worried about, you know, coronavirus, like canceling 1049 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: the football season. I thought, like, I wonder how because 1050 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I was thinking at that point, like 1051 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: what if about potentially launching a site or something like that. Um, 1052 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: like if things went this certain way or that certain 1053 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: way with different contracts and stuff like that, Like what 1054 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: would I do, um if there was no receivers to 1055 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: chart because there was no season, and like why would 1056 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 1: anybody pay for the old data from two thousand nineteen 1057 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: that they already for the most part saw like everyone 1058 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: knew I like Terry McLaurin or Deante Johnson, Like what 1059 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: what what's the what's the incentive for folks to buy 1060 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: into that? Um? One idea I had was like, oh yeah, 1061 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: spend that time and like go back and chart some 1062 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: like sort of. I love the RP legacy part of it. 1063 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: Like the only thing is Marcus and you elitist there 1064 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: at the NFL network. Um, not like those of us 1065 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: on the outside. You know, you guys have like footage 1066 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: through NFL Vision for like every game that's literally ever 1067 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: existed from like a coaching film perspective. Uh, those of 1068 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 1: us on the outside with NFL Game Pass, which shout 1069 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: out to NFL game Pass. Okay, I couldn't do what 1070 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: I do without NFL game pass. Don't tell, don't tell 1071 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: some of the shadowy league figures that I said that, 1072 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: but um, you know, like that that's a of that 1073 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: only goes back like certain how far, however far like 1074 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: two nine or something like that. But there were some 1075 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: cool seasons to go through, like hey, Randy moss Is, 1076 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: like you know, last couple of years with the Patriots, 1077 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: or Calvin Johnson, like you said, great example, you know 1078 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: TiO when he was like playing for the Bills, Like 1079 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: some of them would have just been weird or funny, 1080 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: but he even a guy like Wes Welker, like I 1081 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 1: never started West Welker during his time in the NFL. 1082 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: Um you know Larry Fitzgerald's like beginning peak years, Like 1083 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: most of Larry Fitzgerald's time during the RP era has 1084 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: been spent as that Bruce Arians big slot receiver. But 1085 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: like what would Larry Fitzer Because I kind of think 1086 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase sort of reminds me of an early career 1087 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, maybe so good downfield. I don't know if 1088 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: that's a fair comparison, but I also don't know what 1089 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,720 Speaker 1: early career Larry Fitzgerald would have looked like in reception 1090 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: perception because it just never existed. So, um, yeah, like 1091 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: that that is a fun idea. I think that some people, 1092 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: like a very small percentage of people would care about that. 1093 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: But that small percentage would be a lot of fun 1094 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: to go back and forth with. Absolutely. Like I said, 1095 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: I have just released like one a year, right, It's 1096 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: like a special Easter rag or something for people. Um 1097 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: and by the way, if you ever want my Don 1098 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: Hudson charting data, I'm sure we can work at a deal. Okay, Yeah, 1099 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: your people talk to my people back and forth. Yeah. 1100 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: So I was walking about this up. I gotta you know, 1101 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: I just want to end with some some fun questions 1102 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: just to kind of pick your brain. I know that 1103 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: you and your lovely wife to be have become fanatics 1104 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: of the show Criminal Minds, So I have to ask 1105 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: you what is the what is the best season of 1106 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: Criminal Minds so far? I'm so I'm so offended that 1107 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: you would out out that too to your entire to 1108 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: your trillions and trillions of listeners here on the podcast. 1109 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 1: But no, yeah, we have, we're you know. It all 1110 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: started because there were I think I don't know like 1111 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: that you guys got affected by this. But there's one 1112 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: day definitely here in Elsa, Gundo and Marcus and I 1113 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: lived relatively close to each other. Um, like where are 1114 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: our our WiFi was out? Are like cell phone internet 1115 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: was completely out for like an entire your day during 1116 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: the pandemic too, So it's like yeah, yeah yeah. Also 1117 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: they can't like walk down the street and knock on 1118 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: neighbors doors and be like, hey, open up your doors, 1119 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: let me breathe in your face, and like and tell 1120 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: me is your internet working or whatever? But um, so 1121 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: all we had was like DVDs, and you know, I'm 1122 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: not a big movie guy, so like my DVD collection 1123 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: is sparse. So we started the second season of Criminal 1124 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: Minds and now we're like on the season an absurd 1125 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: amount that I won't say here. Um, probably gonna try 1126 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: to finish it. But I had the best season. Um 1127 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: it's I would say it's like season four or um 1128 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: season four or five. Probably you know people people enjoy, uh. 1129 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 1: I like Jason Gideon from the first couple of seasons. 1130 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: H for sure, you know that he was a great character. 1131 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: But I'm a big David Rossi guy, and when he 1132 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: gets on the show. Um, that is an exciting you know, 1133 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. There's a lot of men in that show 1134 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: that I feel like my fiance has got a thing for, 1135 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: like but mostly like like, oh old Dad's like she's 1136 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: obsessed with Aaron Hotchner. That's a tough scene for me. 1137 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: I know, he leaves the show. It's season like season 1138 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: twelve or something. But yeah, I mean I could go 1139 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 1: on and I could talk about criminal mine. You say 1140 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: she's into old dads. I mean, I've don you long 1141 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 1: enough to realize that that you're in there, Dude, You're 1142 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Like you know, you've gotten old, You've 1143 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: had an old dad vibe to you for a while. Dude, 1144 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,720 Speaker 1: So you're well number one? How dare you number two? 1145 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: I am. I am turning thirty this year officially, So 1146 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: you're washed. Now it's over for you. It's over. Yeah, 1147 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: it's totally over. I I've I've like slid right into 1148 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: domesticated um life here, and my god, it's what a 1149 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: what a perfect fit. I wouldn't have said that, you know, 1150 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: three or four years ago, but my god, what a 1151 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: perfect fit? Are you kidding? Everything everything I've known about 1152 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: you has been culminating to this, right, You've you have 1153 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: worried since I met you that at some point you're 1154 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna lose your hair. You were a big part of 1155 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: plant twitter for a long time. You were huge into 1156 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts. Like everything about you has been leading to 1157 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: this moment. So, um, it's a fair point. This is 1158 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: a surprise, all right, last day, I'll let you go 1159 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: with uh, if I put ten thousand dollars on the table, 1160 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars cold hard cash, that you had to 1161 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: watch twenty four hours straight of either Peyton Manning commercials 1162 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: or Baker Mayfield commercials, which would it be? This is 1163 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,919 Speaker 1: when I saw this on the outline, five minutes before 1164 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: the show started with I expected I saw this question. 1165 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the easiest question of the 1166 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: entire program. It's obviously Baker Mayfield. Although I like, if 1167 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: it was for ten thousand dollars, I do I'd take 1168 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,720 Speaker 1: either one of the options, right, Like, it's ten thousand 1169 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,959 Speaker 1: dollars for twenty four hours of my life, that's fine? 1170 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: Who cares? Um do? I got I? So I just 1171 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: I have to be awake though that that that could 1172 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: be actually have to be you know, an active participant 1173 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: in this right. And so I just wonder how, as 1174 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 1: you mentioned getting older, how am I going to stay 1175 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: awake for twenty four straight hours? That could be a problem, 1176 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: but easily the more entertaining option is Baker, and I 1177 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: think this is a probably a sign of you getting 1178 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: older too. I'm like kind of legit entertained by Baker 1179 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: Mayfield his commercials like Bake Me Chuckle at least, you know, 1180 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: like the part where like how who can who can 1181 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: excuse me? Who can't relate to when he's watching all 1182 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: the grocery bags and like trying to figure out how 1183 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: to open the door? Who hasn't? Yeah, who has not 1184 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: been in that position? I find myself in that position 1185 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: all the time. So I think the Baker Mayfield commercials 1186 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: are legit enjoyable. Twenty four hours obviously would be a 1187 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: bit of a nightmare, but probably change your mind after 1188 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of them, you know. Oh yeah, like 1189 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: twenty four hours later, I better not see it. I 1190 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: better not see Baker Mayfield ever again. I'm never watching 1191 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 1: Brown's football period. Oh man. Uh well, I'm always happy 1192 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: to talk to you, whether it is on Slack or 1193 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: via a podcast or the rare chances in the last 1194 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: year when we've got to do it in person. Hopefully 1195 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: those days are coming back against souit. And like I said, Man, 1196 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm so excited and proud and happy for you to 1197 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: c RP takeoff the way it has and excited for 1198 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: what you and James have to put together. Um yeah, man, 1199 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: I just I'm really really happy for you. It's been 1200 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,240 Speaker 1: a long time coming. It's great. I know people generally 1201 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: know people who are listening to this podcast don't know 1202 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: where to find you they're doing something wrong. But just 1203 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: in some weird universe where that happens, where can folks 1204 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: find what you're doing? Yeah, you can find me on 1205 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: Twitter at Matt harmon Underscore b y B still rocking 1206 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: that underscore and agree. But it is what it is. 1207 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of my works at Yeah Who Sports, 1208 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah Who Sports, Fantasy Football Forecast is, which is our podcast. 1209 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: It's a name if you ask me. And Reception Perception 1210 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: dot com is where you'll find all the all the 1211 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 1: RP info and obviously big things coming there soon. And 1212 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: MG man, thanks so much for having me. It's always 1213 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: it's always good to kick it around in a professional setting, 1214 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: even though like you said, we we talk all we 1215 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: talk all the time, UM in our in our group slack. 1216 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: It's it's great man. I'm happy for everything you've got 1217 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: going on to UM. It's just it's good to see 1218 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: the stronghold out there doing doing things. Man. It's always 1219 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: good strongholds still holding strong after all these years. And 1220 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,439 Speaker 1: i'd say, I see you later, but I'm probably gonna 1221 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 1: chat with you on slack. It about ten minutes or 1222 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course I'll 1223 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: see you there exactly the mean time for the rest 1224 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 1: of us, that is, we are done. We appreciate you 1225 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football show. You know 1226 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 1: the drill tell too friends, to tell to friends, rate 1227 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: review and remember, if you only have one eye, are 1228 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: you blinking or winking? Be safe, take care of yourselves, 1229 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 1: wear a mask, and we will talk to you next week. Wow, 1230 00:58:47,240 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm cot coking and all the way.