Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jettie and now he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: Ten people in Paris have been convicted of cyberbullying France's
Speaker 3: First Lady, Bridget Macrone, by spreading false claims that she's
Speaker 3: a transgender woman who was born male. The eight men
Speaker 3: and two women were also found guilty of making malicious comments,
Speaker 3: including equating the twenty four year age gap between the
Speaker 3: First Lady and her husband, President Emmanuel Macrone. The pedophilia
Speaker 3: ruling comm says the Macrones pursue a separate defamation case
Speaker 3: in the US against right wing influencer Candice Owens, who
Speaker 3: has also claimed Bridget Macrone was born a man.
Speaker 4: It's interesting to me that it could be illegal anywhere
Speaker 4: for claiming Bridget Macrone is a dude cyberboling. I just
Speaker 4: don't understand how stuff like that is illegal. And first
Speaker 4: of all, show us your genitals solve the whole problem.
Speaker 4: Oh my lord, you're a real gentleman. Some sort of
Speaker 4: prime time special for adults only. Oh you have the
Speaker 4: first Lady of France come out she wears those very
Speaker 4: short skirts.
Speaker 2: All she's got to do is lift it up.
Speaker 5: The RC Triumph and get on with our lives. Exactly, yeah,
Speaker 5: exactly or disgusting.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: The Admiral Nelson Tower. I don't know what's actually going
Speaker 5: on under there.
Speaker 2: Come on the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 5: Obviously all the lord that was a swinging amiss.
Speaker 2: It was a good The concept is perfect. Oh I
Speaker 2: love the concert. The execution was no good. Does she
Speaker 2: have the Eiffel Tower under there or not?
Speaker 5: Or the uh what the equivalent of the well, I'm
Speaker 5: not going there?
Speaker 2: What is so?
Speaker 4: I don't understand countries that don't have our free speech
Speaker 4: rules for one thing, It just doesn't make any sense
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 2: And I also don't understand the whole just ignoring it.
Speaker 4: Why you need to suit people or claiming your wife's
Speaker 4: a dude, she's not. Go ahead and say whatever you want,
Speaker 4: crazy people. Nobody's paying any attention. Do it can go
Speaker 4: on with my life. It's the striishand effect right For
Speaker 4: one thing. Yeah, by getting all up in arms, you
Speaker 4: just draw attention to it.
Speaker 2: Ignorant. Hey, that's stupid. I don't care.
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, I know people are just they're wrong. We're
Speaker 5: talking a couple of minutes ago about how the terrible,
Speaker 5: terrible policy of minimum wages, especially like aggressive minimum wages,
Speaker 5: are so universally thought of as a good idea when
Speaker 5: really they're a bad idea, And the idea we're going
Speaker 5: to suppress bad speech. Don't worry, not good speech, just
Speaker 5: bad speech, is the same sort of idea. It's a
Speaker 5: horrible idea, utterly unworkable. It's stupid if you think about
Speaker 5: it for two minutes, but nobody thinks about it for
Speaker 5: two minutes, and so country after country tries it. We
Speaker 5: talked more at length about this to kick off our
Speaker 5: two of the show, specifically about what Australia's up to.
Speaker 5: Urge you to check it out via podcast Armstrong and
Speaker 5: Kittie on demand. It was one of my finer screeds.
Speaker 2: I believe she.
Speaker 4: Flips up her skirt. She's either got the Arctic Triumph
Speaker 4: or the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 5: That's a pretty good joke. Actually, yeah, that will do. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 5: send off the Greg Gutfelder or somebody. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Greg Gutfeld, they were having the conversation about
Speaker 4: Venezuela last night and I don't know how familiar y'all
Speaker 4: are with Kat Timph the Blonde. I think she's a
Speaker 4: comedian is how she started and then became really big
Speaker 4: on Twitter, and she's on the show all the time
Speaker 4: making commentary about various things. There in the conversation about Venezuela,
Speaker 4: and she went on a pretty long screed, starting with
Speaker 4: the idea that it's kind of interesting from a magas
Speaker 4: standpoint that Trump is super for like two decades a.
Speaker 2: It's none of our business.
Speaker 4: We don't need to get involved in these foreign countries guy,
Speaker 4: And then you know we're doing this, although he did
Speaker 4: famously say the big mistake George W. Bush made was
Speaker 4: we didn't take the oil. What's the point of going
Speaker 4: into a rock if you're not going to take the oil.
Speaker 4: And now it looks like, based on everything he said yesterday,
Speaker 4: we're going into Venezuela and we're going to take the
Speaker 4: oil or or somehow get involved with the oil.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't think Trump has a coherent foreign policy, but
Speaker 5: to the extent he does, it's that you don't get
Speaker 5: screw around in our neighborhood, which I think is perfectly reasonable. Yeah,
Speaker 5: back before I get to what kat Tip said that
Speaker 5: I wanted to discuss. Jeb Bush yesterday tweeted out, Jeb
Speaker 5: hilariously mocked by Trump until he had to leave the
Speaker 5: stage back in twenty sixteen. Our country will be safer
Speaker 5: with the legitimate president of Venezuela in place. Thank you
Speaker 5: Maria Carina Micato for your courage. Thank you President Trump
Speaker 5: and Secretary of Rubio for bringing Maduro to justice. So
Speaker 5: that's a number of Jeb Bush, nice job Trump tweets
Speaker 5: in the last week. Well, yeah, that was u. That
Speaker 5: was a elbow to the the side of the head
Speaker 5: when you weren't looking, because he was saying, it's you
Speaker 5: got to have my shadow in and she's not. That's
Speaker 5: that's We've got the loyalist maduroist vice president in.
Speaker 2: So that was half a shot.
Speaker 5: It depends on whoever he's going to give us the
Speaker 5: oil play ball play ball.
Speaker 4: But anyway, here's what kat Tim said. Did she just
Speaker 4: have a baby? I think I think she just said
Speaker 4: she did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulations, that's Katy, I'm having a baby.
Speaker 4: This I'm not worked up about this story, by the way,
Speaker 4: So I'm not trying to make a point of any kind.
Speaker 4: I'm like, not angry incense that we violated the constitution
Speaker 4: and only Congress declares war. I'm also not super jazz
Speaker 4: that we did this.
Speaker 5: I'm just kind of watching it. Got to wait and see.
Speaker 4: But on the whole idea of we were at war
Speaker 4: with Venezuela with the drug boats and no, this is
Speaker 4: not a war, this is a a Senator Marco Rubio,
Speaker 4: Secretary of State, has said, now this is a this
Speaker 4: is an arrest. Was we went in and arrest him.
Speaker 4: The military were there to back up the law enforcement
Speaker 4: to arrest the guy. And Kat Timp said, this is
Speaker 4: pretty interesting. Let me get this straight. We go to
Speaker 4: a country, we capture their leader, we bomb it, and
Speaker 4: then we say we run this country. Now, that's not war.
Speaker 4: But them sending cocaine here that people are willingly buying,
Speaker 4: that is war. This doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's right. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The explanations, the pretexts that are given for various actions
Speaker 5: are frequently bull crap. They're just what will fly. What
Speaker 5: we did snatched up with Dora was a handful of
Speaker 5: different things at once.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting. John Meachum, author
Speaker 4: Polsher Prize winner, wrote a bunch of good ones American Line,
Speaker 4: good book about Andrew Jackson. Anyway, he's on MSNBC all
Speaker 4: the time and he's a super super trumpeter. So I
Speaker 4: was kind of surprised to hear this out of him,
Speaker 4: But he said, and there I was on the topic
Speaker 4: of whether this is an legal move or Trump was
Speaker 4: you know, did something on constitutor already said yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, these are gray areas. Presidents do these sorts
Speaker 4: of things. They get away with it. They usually fly,
Speaker 4: nothing happens, people bark about it for a while, but
Speaker 4: we move on, and that's probably true.
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: I like Kat and I would have enjoyed being part
Speaker 5: of that conversation with her. What I would say to
Speaker 5: her is, yeah, I absolutely can see the fact that
Speaker 5: there there is no drug problem in the United States
Speaker 5: without demand.
Speaker 2: Nobody's making people take drugs. We have an.
Speaker 5: Insatiable lust for drugs in this country, and it is
Speaker 5: on us. On the other hand, we had a uh,
Speaker 5: not only a dictator and a guy who was welcoming
Speaker 5: China and Iran and Russia. Yeah, I think that's a
Speaker 5: bigger deal to me into the country. Right across the
Speaker 5: Gulf from us. The guy would not play ball. He
Speaker 5: refused in any way to play Paul in the'se right
Speaker 5: across the street from us. Geopolitically, we don't have to
Speaker 5: put up with that. We didn't put up with it.
Speaker 2: Great move.
Speaker 5: What happens now difficult to say.
Speaker 2: We'll have to.
Speaker 4: See, Yeah, the whole Sometimes doing the right thing leads
Speaker 4: to a hard road.
Speaker 2: I think we've all dealt with that in our real lives.
Speaker 5: Just because you do the right thing doesn't mean your
Speaker 5: life becomes easy. Sometimes doing the right thing makes your
Speaker 5: life harder, but that doesn't mean it's not the right thing.
Speaker 4: I think it's a much bigger deal that you know,
Speaker 4: they were getting around our oil embargoes with Russia and
Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff in Iran and China being there,
Speaker 4: And that's to me way bigger deal than senin US drugs.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I would agree, I would agree completely. And
Speaker 5: the fact that they're a national security threat in general
Speaker 5: the drug thing is totally uncool. But again, uh eh,
Speaker 5: we've got some complicity in this.
Speaker 4: So can fishermen there in Venezuela get back in their
Speaker 4: boats and go out there and feel fairly secure that.
Speaker 5: I think they could probably go ahead and run their
Speaker 5: sport fishing tournament.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I'd get it done like quick the next couple of days.
Speaker 4: By the way, I don't remember if I said this
Speaker 4: yesterday or not, but I meant to Marco Rubio is
Speaker 4: flipping good. Oh yeah, but that sort of stuff. He
Speaker 4: is really good. You cannot corner Marco Rubio. He does
Speaker 4: that hole how dare you ask me? And I'm usually
Speaker 4: turned off by that sort of tone. But he's really
Speaker 4: good at the How could you be so stupid to
Speaker 4: not understand what I'm saying. He's just really really good at.
Speaker 5: It, right, And I think he stopped short of being
Speaker 5: a dick about it or absolutely. It's kind of amazing
Speaker 5: he was never elected president or got denomination because he's really.
Speaker 2: Good at that.
Speaker 5: Well, because Trump came out of nowhere and humiliated him. Right,
Speaker 5: little Marco, I've never seen anybody so thirsty. Let's see
Speaker 5: where did I'm looking at yesterday's clips because we had it.
Speaker 4: And he says he won't run in twenty eight if
Speaker 4: jd Vance runs, and Jade Vance is going to run,
Speaker 4: so I guess Marco's just never going to be president.
Speaker 2: Although he is quite young. He might be.
Speaker 4: Maybe he thinks after Trump, it'll go the Democrats away
Speaker 4: most likely, just as the swing of history, and he'll
Speaker 4: come back four years later.
Speaker 5: Well, remember he got out of government, or he tried,
Speaker 5: and the Republican Party begged him to run for reelection
Speaker 5: as senator because they knew he would win, but he
Speaker 5: was tired of it. But yeah, he's really really good
Speaker 5: at it. And he's also a really savvy operator. I
Speaker 5: could see him. I can't read his mind, but I
Speaker 5: could see him thinking.
Speaker 2: JD.
Speaker 5: Vance is super smart, but he's a loose cannon's the
Speaker 5: wrong term. But he he's bold enough that he might
Speaker 5: really miscalculate something. And if I just stand back as
Speaker 5: the loyal MAGA guy, I'm the clear next choice. We'll
Speaker 5: see how it goes with JB. Because I don't want
Speaker 5: to take him on head to For me.
Speaker 4: Vance comes off as two calculatingly transparently calculating, just like
Speaker 4: obviously changing is this or that at.
Speaker 2: The right time?
Speaker 4: But whatever, he might be the nominating I yeah, and
Speaker 4: I get dinged for not only bringing up the twenty
Speaker 4: eight presidential election, but the twenty thirty two presidential election.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Although it became I became a Warner the
Speaker 2: other day.
Speaker 4: My son will be voting in the twenty eight presidential election,
Speaker 4: which I find horrifying.
Speaker 2: How is that even possible?
Speaker 5: And the Democrats want to give sixteen year olds the
Speaker 5: right to vote? Well, actually, progressives around the world want
Speaker 5: that because they know children fall for their fairy tale policies.
Speaker 5: It's insidious. Eh, these are the things they get me
Speaker 5: shown up for work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: When Marco was talking to Margaret Brennan and she says, well,
Speaker 5: if you are trying to, you know, remove the regime,
Speaker 5: why didn't you pick up all of its laters?
Speaker 2: And he said, what I just told you?
Speaker 5: How incredibly large and complex that operation was.
Speaker 2: You wanted us to do it times five in a
Speaker 2: single night. How's that gonna work? Mark?
Speaker 5: Yeah, dip ass, You didn't say that last thing, but
Speaker 5: he should have.
Speaker 4: So why did I need to use Google Translate for
Speaker 4: the first time in my life? In an episode with
Speaker 4: the Maids at a hotel the other day? Among other things?
Speaker 4: Coming up on the Armstrung and Giddy show, arm Strong, Heyetty.
Speaker 1: In America's record smashing flu season getting even worse. New
Speaker 1: CDC data shows flu cases spiked more than seven percent
Speaker 1: in a one week period, with severe cases rising. Two
Speaker 1: forty five states now reporting high or very high flu
Speaker 1: activity and the number of outpatient doctor visits for flu
Speaker 1: like illnesses hitting record levels.
Speaker 4: Hmmm, record breaking flu season. Do you get the flu shot?
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I have a semi frequently. I heard
Speaker 4: through the grape vine.
Speaker 5: Who knows that this year it didn't match up well
Speaker 5: with the actual strains that are going around because they
Speaker 5: have to predict it, try to predict it to make
Speaker 5: it in advance.
Speaker 2: But I think I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I have once in my life, and I
Speaker 5: don't feel like it's made any different. I get two
Speaker 5: years out of three, Probably I do.
Speaker 2: But hey, do you get the flu shot?
Speaker 5: No? I never have, never have.
Speaker 2: Young and strong. Now we're weak and old. Heasing grade.
Speaker 4: We one mild illness could do us, and so we
Speaker 4: got to be careful. This is kind of semi interesting.
Speaker 4: So NASCAR racing. I don't follow NASCAR, but they had
Speaker 4: a commissioner.
Speaker 2: First time.
Speaker 4: They decided they need a sports commissioner like Major League
Speaker 4: Baseball does and NFL does. They hired a commissioner, this guy,
Speaker 4: Steve Phelps. Where there's some sort of court case going
Speaker 4: on that I'm not going to get into because I
Speaker 4: don't care, involves Michael Jordan. Weirdly, because lots of athletes,
Speaker 4: movie stars and stuff get into racing, it must be
Speaker 4: more compelling than I realized, because a lot of rich,
Speaker 4: powerful people get into it, compelling and glamorous, and a
Speaker 4: lot of rich people are around it. And yet it's
Speaker 4: like going in a champion racehorse. I guess you crad
Speaker 4: and there's no appeal for me. But anyway, during this
Speaker 4: court case, some of the texts came out from this
Speaker 4: commissioner in which he calls rich Childress and if you
Speaker 4: know anything about raising, he's one of the biggest names
Speaker 4: in the history of racing a stupid redneck. Oh no,
Speaker 4: it just everybody went nuts in the NASCAR community over
Speaker 4: him calling one of the most beloved figures in all
Speaker 4: of the history of NASCAR a stupid redneck. As the commissioner,
Speaker 4: So he is he like calling Red hour Back a
Speaker 4: stupid redneck?
Speaker 5: Or who's like a beloved football owner, maybe Jerry Jones
Speaker 5: who's a bit of a character.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Haly Lambeau, this guy has stepped down as commissioner
Speaker 4: and went with the as a lifelong fan. It gives
Speaker 4: me immense pride to have served as NASCAR's first and
Speaker 4: I will not always remember the blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: I got caught calling NASCAR driver's rednecks. So I guess
Speaker 4: I've gotta go, is what he could have said. So
Speaker 4: I have a habit when I travel. This is a
Speaker 4: transition to a different story. I have a habit when
Speaker 4: I travel. I've done this my whole life. If I
Speaker 4: put my dirty clothes in the trash can, the trash
Speaker 4: can I've always thought is very handy because it's usually
Speaker 4: got that plastic liner in it.
Speaker 5: Wow, wait a minute, we got a pause right there.
Speaker 5: I've never heard of that. I'm not saying it's a
Speaker 5: bad idea. Well it's not a great idea, but I
Speaker 5: get you.
Speaker 4: I put my dirty socks in my underwear in the
Speaker 4: trash can with the plastic thing in there, and that's
Speaker 4: your trash. And there's usually multiple toilet in the dress
Speaker 4: or drawer, there's usually multiple trash cans, and but one
Speaker 4: of them are reserved for my dirty socks and undwords
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Katie's giving me what the hell look?
Speaker 4: And so I've always done that, And then when I
Speaker 4: get up the next morning, it's so easy to just
Speaker 4: grab the plastic things, spin it. It's sealed, and I
Speaker 4: put it in my bag, and my dirty clothes are
Speaker 4: separated by the plastic bag from my other stuff.
Speaker 5: I've been doing this my whole life. The judges are
Speaker 5: ready to roll.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: Creative and Innovative had set back the other day though,
Speaker 5: as I got back to my room and the maids
Speaker 5: had already gotten in there before, and I said, oh, oh,
Speaker 5: did you throw away my clothes that were in the
Speaker 5: trash can?
Speaker 2: And she looked at me and said, see.
Speaker 5: Uh, she had I do they were in the trash can.
Speaker 4: No, she had no idea what I sing or whatever,
Speaker 4: And so I thought, what am I gonna do here?
Speaker 4: And because it hadn't I didn't care about my stuff
Speaker 4: so much. But I had some of my son's clothes
Speaker 4: that he really likes, particular clothes, and so I had
Speaker 4: to download the translator app, which I'd never done before.
Speaker 4: The Google Translator worked great. I typed it in there
Speaker 4: anything like that, and so we had a conversation about it.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: Anyway, when I get back to the hotel room with
Speaker 4: all the rest of my family, mom, dad, everybody like that.
Speaker 4: I get mocked endlessly. One for putting my clothes in
Speaker 4: the trash can? What did you think you were going
Speaker 4: to happen?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 2: More on?
Speaker 4: And two for making some immigrant who doesn't speak English
Speaker 4: dig through the garbage to find my dirty socks on
Speaker 4: a holiday.
Speaker 5: This is the ugly face of white supremacy.
Speaker 2: Michael, I see it.
Speaker 4: Oh, they couldn't believe that I had that poor woman
Speaker 4: digging through the garbage to find my crusty socks on
Speaker 4: a holiday.
Speaker 5: And when she tried to stop. You didn't like beat
Speaker 5: her or anything she but she found them and I
Speaker 5: got them back. Very nice.
Speaker 2: Tip on her. I would have if I had guinea cash.
Speaker 2: But I, oh no, this is the nightmare. Most is
Speaker 2: a nightmare. I have nothing to.
Speaker 5: Say Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4: I won't reset the entire hotel made story. If you
Speaker 4: missed it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 4: But the texture running roughly fifty to fifty. Or whether
Speaker 4: it's a genius idea to put the dirty clothes in
Speaker 4: the trash can with the liner, or what did you
Speaker 4: think was gonna happen you?
Speaker 2: More on?
Speaker 4: You put your clothes in a trash can. So it's
Speaker 4: kind of run fifty to fifty. It is running one
Speaker 4: hundred percent that I'm a monster for not having tipped
Speaker 4: the woman. Now, I intended to tip the woman, but
Speaker 4: when we got back from our meal, she was gone.
Speaker 4: Everybody is gone. Nobody could understand what I was even
Speaker 4: talking about. I didn't know how to, although somebody said
Speaker 4: I should absolutely let the hotel know what a great
Speaker 4: job they did the very least.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, well you leave a nice tip on
Speaker 5: the desk right as you check out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you always housekeeping? Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 4: So we got in an interesting so I'd never heard
Speaker 4: of this in my life. We got into this conversation
Speaker 4: with a group of whatever it was twenty people. Somebody
Speaker 4: came up with the do you tip the maids? And
Speaker 4: I said, why would I tip the maids? So about
Speaker 4: half the room was like, never heard of it in
Speaker 4: my life, and the other half was, you don't tip
Speaker 4: the weights the maids at the hotel, you monsters. I'd
Speaker 4: never heard of it in my life. Wow, Wow, you're
Speaker 4: supposed to tip the maids?
Speaker 5: Oh of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Yeah, Matt,
Speaker 5: I didn't know this either.
Speaker 2: I mean neither. I'd never even heard of it.
Speaker 4: It wasn't an option for me to not do it
Speaker 4: because I didn't know it was a thing.
Speaker 5: Well, it's weird these days because it used to be
Speaker 5: the maids would come in every single day, make the
Speaker 5: room spick and span, you know, tuck in your sheets
Speaker 5: and like fold your clothes and whatever. And now it's
Speaker 5: hit or miss or you tell them don't bother.
Speaker 4: You got to admit the whole tipping thing is nuts
Speaker 4: because there's all kinds of things where well, yeah, yah,
Speaker 4: they did that, that's what they get paid to do,
Speaker 4: and you don't trip them. And there are other things.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you have to tip them. Why is this
Speaker 4: one different than that one?
Speaker 5: I don't understand. Yeah, it was interesting in Europe, specifically
Speaker 5: in England a few months ago that you know, I
Speaker 5: think it's five percent or ten percent or something like
Speaker 5: that is like the max and more than that, it's
Speaker 5: just like weird at a pub or something like that.
Speaker 5: On the other hand, they don't give a damn whether
Speaker 5: they serve you very well or not in a lot
Speaker 5: of places, right, it's interesting. Okay, well, okay, final text
Speaker 5: on that Jack Armstrong is actually a bad person that
Speaker 5: should never judge any other person again for not being heard.
Speaker 2: So I agree with that.
Speaker 5: So speaking of translations, as you you had a bit
Speaker 5: of an issue with that. I was idling about killing time,
Speaker 5: and I asked Google Gemini just and I've got like
Speaker 5: four different AI platforms on my phone, my.
Speaker 2: iPad, just just more.
Speaker 5: Or less randomly you go between them and I'm getting
Speaker 5: a sense of who's doing what well. But anyway, so
Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting, and I've got a bunch
Speaker 5: of interesting AI stuff here for you. But I asked
Speaker 5: it to design me a First Amendment tattoo, not too big,
Speaker 5: because if I ever get a tattoo, I have no tattoos.
Speaker 5: It would be a First Amendment tattoo because I'm a
Speaker 5: First Amendment for lower back. Oh yeah, trampstam one hundred percent. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But it came back hilariously riddled with typos, as I mentioned.
Speaker 5: In fact, I got to read it to you again.
Speaker 5: I'm reading it verbatim. Congress shall make no law law
Speaker 5: established and religion, or prohibiting free exercise thereof, or abridding
Speaker 5: the speech or fredetum of the press of the right
Speaker 5: to peace. Plea to passembol and to petition, the redress,
Speaker 5: the go over ninset.
Speaker 4: And such is the problem with AI in that it
Speaker 4: can do some really complicated things that are mind bowingly amazing,
Speaker 4: but swing and miss on some of the simplest things
Speaker 4: in the world. A child could come up with the
Speaker 4: proper verbiage of the First Amendment.
Speaker 5: Well, I actually asked, I said, I asked you for
Speaker 5: a design for a First Amendment tattoo, and your design
Speaker 5: was full of typographical errors, even though the text of
Speaker 5: the First Amendment is readily available in a thousand different sources.
Speaker 5: What happened? And and and Google Gemini responded, I hear
Speaker 5: your frustration. You know it's not frustration, honestly, it's it's curiosity.
Speaker 5: But anyway, thanks for guessing it what emotion I'm feeling.
Speaker 5: And I sincerely apologize yourself, right, and my mother, I
Speaker 5: sincerely apologize for the mix up. It's definitely jarring to
Speaker 5: see one of the most famous texts in history come
Speaker 5: back with typos.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't need you to empathize either, yourn effing machine.
Speaker 5: But here's the interesting part. To be completely transparent about
Speaker 5: how this happens. While my core brain quote unquote knows
Speaker 5: the text of the First Amendment perfectly. The image generation tool,
Speaker 5: the part that actually draws the tattoo, handles text differently
Speaker 5: than a word processor does. Why AI struggles with text
Speaker 5: and images. Current AI image models don't write letter by letter. Instead,
Speaker 5: they treat text as visual patterns and shapes. That's the
Speaker 5: visual versus semantic. The model tries to replicate the look
Speaker 5: of calligraphy or a specific font because it prioritizes the esthetics.
Speaker 5: The swirls of the shading layout sometimes loses track of
Speaker 5: the specific sequence of characters.
Speaker 4: Well, but that is so interesting now is that the
Speaker 4: sort of thing that can be fixed with a minor
Speaker 4: change in code? Or is it like the hallucination problem
Speaker 4: where it may cost billions of dollars and they don't
Speaker 4: know if it can fix it. But again, an eight
Speaker 4: year old could look at, you know, a cartoon rendering
Speaker 4: of the First Amendment and still read it and transpose
Speaker 4: it if you wanted them to.
Speaker 5: Well, right, right, complexity, The First Amendment is long, now,
Speaker 5: No Ulysses is long.
Speaker 2: The First Amendment is short.
Speaker 5: Anyway, the more text you put ask an AI to
Speaker 5: put into a single image, the higher the chance it
Speaker 5: will create gibberish er all script AI script rather because
Speaker 5: it runs out of visual space to render every character
Speaker 5: accurately accurately. How can we fix this? If you're looking
Speaker 5: for a design, you can actually take to it to
Speaker 5: two artists. I recommend a two step approach layout design.
Speaker 5: I can generate a visual mock up for you that
Speaker 5: focuses on the placement, font style, and imagery blah blah blah,
Speaker 5: then the text. To always provide your artists with the
Speaker 5: digital text directly from a verified source to ensure one
Speaker 5: hundred percent accuracy, or you'll end up with no riggurts.
Speaker 5: Right anyway? How interesting? Eh?
Speaker 4: Maybe that's so they ended up with the leering center
Speaker 4: there in Minnesota instead of the learning center.
Speaker 5: All right, because nobody spoke English. They all they spoke
Speaker 5: was the language of graft and savory.
Speaker 2: A I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: ICE is using facial recognition technolology to.
Speaker 2: Quickly arrest people.
Speaker 5: Widespread uses raised alarms among privacy advocates and some former officials.
Speaker 4: What's happening at the airport When they take our picture
Speaker 4: now every single time.
Speaker 2: That's facial recognition, right?
Speaker 4: But why did they take at every time just to
Speaker 4: try to see if it would it go off if hey,
Speaker 4: this doesn't match previous pictures we've taken.
Speaker 5: No, no, they dispose of it immediately because people object
Speaker 5: to the data being held onto or they claim they
Speaker 5: dispose of it immediately. Is this Jack Armstrong? Yes, it is, Okay,
Speaker 5: get rid of the picture. Oh okay, it's too bad
Speaker 5: because I was having a really good hair day until
Speaker 5: recently it aggressed. Arresting an immigrants suspected of being in
Speaker 5: the country illegally took time, had to go through various
Speaker 5: forms of ID through different systems. If the results were inconclusive,
Speaker 5: book the person into custody for further investigation. But now
Speaker 5: ice have been handed a powerful new tool to speed
Speaker 5: up arrests, mobile facial recognition technology. Officers can simply point
Speaker 5: their phones at a subs FEC's face, snap a picture, and
Speaker 5: turn up the person's identity and often they're immigration.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Now, even if you think that's just fantastic, obviously the
Speaker 4: way that's going to be used every building, every street.
Speaker 2: Corner, every every everywhere.
Speaker 5: Soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, sometimes two opposing thoughts are true in this case. One,
Speaker 5: this is a valuable and time saving tool for law enforcement.
Speaker 5: The it is clearly a step down the road to
Speaker 5: Chila's China's surveillance state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no stopping it.
Speaker 4: But my kids are going to grow up in a world,
Speaker 4: you know, two decades from now, where the government knows
Speaker 4: every single place you are all the time, pretty much
Speaker 4: twenty four hours a day. Yeah, between your phone, your vehicle,
Speaker 4: facial recognition, everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it will have the Orwellian a result that
Speaker 5: I think we can all imagine on our own.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's well read nineteen eighty four. How do
Speaker 5: you deal with the surveillance state?
Speaker 2: Poorly? As it turns out, not a happy ending.
Speaker 4: Since I mentioned the TSA, I meant to tell this story.
Speaker 4: I had the most aggressive of TSA agents I've ever had,
Speaker 4: And I've complained about this many times over the years,
Speaker 4: and it's been actually a life lesson for me. One
Speaker 4: particular time, where you're in the line and there's two
Speaker 4: people that can call you up next to show your
Speaker 4: ticket or your ID, and there was one pleasant woman
Speaker 4: and one angry dude, and I got to stand there
Speaker 4: and watch it for a while and it just, I
Speaker 4: don't know, for whatever reason, it was very clear in
Speaker 4: my mind those two are doing the same job. That
Speaker 4: person is miserable all day long. That person is happy
Speaker 4: all day long. That person is spreading happiness in the world.
Speaker 4: That person is making people angry and there and for
Speaker 4: no reason. It's not like there was anything being accomplished
Speaker 4: by being the angry person at all.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, at all.
Speaker 4: If anything you're you're you're making it no more difficult.
Speaker 4: And I just I don't know, is a great lesson
Speaker 4: for me and all kinds of different things. We're all
Speaker 4: we have to do this task. We can either be
Speaker 4: happy while we do it or be angry why we
Speaker 4: do it. But the task still has to be done,
Speaker 4: So how about we not be angry about it? And
Speaker 4: it was just I don't know. It was a moment
Speaker 4: for me that I've tried to carry forward. But I
Speaker 4: came across the most aggressive one of these dudes, and
Speaker 4: I was really close to getting into it with him,
Speaker 4: not in an angry way. I just wanted to say, dude,
Speaker 4: why don't you take it down a notch? Why spread
Speaker 4: all this anger to everyone as we're all just trying
Speaker 4: to get through this line.
Speaker 2: Nobody else is doing it that way?
Speaker 4: Why we're in a hurry? And I didn't know how
Speaker 4: you react. I mean he was really aggressive. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: over here, come on, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: I definitely go gandhi Jesus on him, not dude, no, no,
Speaker 5: say hey, I'm sorry, I have question for it. Go
Speaker 5: super gentle. That might be interesting. You could see that conversation.
Speaker 4: You could say you can leave your hat on, or
Speaker 4: you could say hat stand on.
Speaker 2: The same message.
Speaker 4: But one of them spreads anger, you're angry and the
Speaker 4: other one doesn't.
Speaker 2: So why do you choose the angry route again?
Speaker 5: Come to him with kindness and generosity and help him
Speaker 5: understand what he's doing in the effect it's having on
Speaker 5: him and others. And if he doesn't come around, punch him.
Speaker 2: In the balls.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about actually having the conversation with him.
Speaker 4: Here's why I didn't. This is the reason I didn't.
Speaker 5: Both my son and I, both of us had pocket
Speaker 5: knives in our backpacks.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Wasn't the right time to criticize TSA as we both
Speaker 5: tried to get knives onto the plane and Neil, one
Speaker 5: of us, kid, how did we do this?
Speaker 2: We both had to throw away pocket knives.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that's not the best time to criticize
Speaker 5: the TSA when you've tried to get a weapon through
Speaker 5: Good lord, you scofflaw. I have a couple of more
Speaker 5: really interesting AI stories. Why don't we take a break
Speaker 5: in with Kremm in the last segment.
Speaker 4: That's how we will finish strong next just watching Megan
Speaker 4: Kelly making fun of the Fox News anchors for cheerleading
Speaker 4: the Maduro capture.
Speaker 5: Interesting, interesting times, interesting splits.
Speaker 2: More on that tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I would actually be refreshed if people would not just
Speaker 5: automatically ask what is my tribe saying or what am
Speaker 5: I supposed to say, and just express their opinions.
Speaker 2: I find that refreshing anyway.
Speaker 5: So we're talking about AI, a couple of different facets
Speaker 5: of it, as we often do. A couple of articles
Speaker 5: that came across one talking about how hospitals are both
Speaker 5: a proven ground for what AI can do and also
Speaker 5: like the leading edge of finding out what it can't.
Speaker 2: And I became aware.
Speaker 5: I talked to not a cardiologist, a radiologist guy reads
Speaker 5: X rays and scans and that sort of thing, because
Speaker 5: I'd read something about AI and scans and asked him,
Speaker 5: you know, how it's affecting his world and how it
Speaker 5: will and actually he said the same guy. This guy
Speaker 5: did the same I'm sorry, slow down, Joe. He said
Speaker 5: the same things that this guy did in the article
Speaker 5: in the Wall Street Journal. That it's been incredibly helpful
Speaker 5: because it can read scans very quickly and he just
Speaker 5: has to check them or check the result. And various
Speaker 5: studies have found where is it that that AI is
Speaker 5: way better at finding the early subtle signs of various
Speaker 5: sorts of cancers?
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 5: The study estimated AI could help screen patients and reduce
Speaker 5: breast cancers of a certain kind by thirty percent.
Speaker 2: So good stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh and it's interesting this guy who works for Northwestern
Speaker 5: Medicine and where Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever had this experience, but
Speaker 4: like when I had a couple of tumors, Yeah, they'd
Speaker 4: show me that image or whatever and says, you can
Speaker 4: see here.
Speaker 5: It's like, I can't see anything here. I mean that
Speaker 5: could be anything. Oh what the hell you're talking about.
Speaker 5: I've had the same experience, both myself and my kids
Speaker 5: with broken bones. They say you see that line there,
Speaker 5: and I say, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't see a lie. I don't see.
Speaker 5: Anything, I see a weird shadowy image of what appears
Speaker 5: to be bones. Anyway, he says, And I found this
Speaker 5: really interesting that reading scans faster is a good thing,
Speaker 5: he says, even though it was the first time I
Speaker 5: felt like there was a clock on my career, he says.
Speaker 5: You'd feel guilty getting up to use the restroom. There's
Speaker 5: hundreds of patients waiting for our read and any one
Speaker 5: of them could be one that's actively dying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, WHOA.
Speaker 5: So this guy, God bless him, was so dedicated to
Speaker 5: getting through as many as he could so people could
Speaker 5: start getting treated that he you know, he was afraid
Speaker 5: to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: But but.
Speaker 5: And then they quote a bunch of hospital officials saying
Speaker 5: how great this is. But let's see this one guy
Speaker 5: wanted to where it was it It was right in
Speaker 5: front of me. This this guy wanted to do a
Speaker 5: procedure that was not generally done for a particular problem.
Speaker 5: But he thought, wow, this could work. I think it's
Speaker 5: a really good idea. There is a Mayo Clinic cardiologist
Speaker 5: Paul Friedman. He turned to chat GPT need to weigh
Speaker 5: in on the care of patient who needed to defibrillator
Speaker 5: a few days after having heart surgery, thought it was great,
Speaker 5: and the chat GPT said yep, it's safe and effective
Speaker 5: and listed several reports and studies.
Speaker 2: That showed that it was a good idea. It made
Speaker 2: them all up. Wow, completely fabricated.
Speaker 5: And then the AI bought says, you have cancer, you
Speaker 5: might as well kill yourself, because that's what AI bought.
Speaker 2: Stick ken with the killing yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh, Jack Clark, GISs time stop. Jack and Joe live,
Speaker 1: go go, and if they don't, canval be beats tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Speaker 5: Micha leans lower technical director Michael to lead us off.
Speaker 6: Jackie had quite the vacation. You were teased by your
Speaker 6: family about putting clothes in the trash, You got laughed
Speaker 6: at for wanting to give up desserts, and then a
Speaker 6: TSA guy yelled at you, You poor guy.
Speaker 5: Rough time over the holidays, Katie Greener, Steve mused.
Speaker 2: Woman.
Speaker 5: As a final thought, Katie, Michael, don't forget about running
Speaker 5: through Ann Frank's bedroom. That's right, right, Oh my god,
Speaker 5: that was really uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: That's your fought. Yeah, that's good enough.
Speaker 4: If you didn't catch that story, get the podcast Armstrong
Speaker 4: and Getty on demand. That was highly highly embarrassing. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make this my final thought. I was gonna
Speaker 4: squeeze in this story.
Speaker 5: But it's about this guy who's an activist trying to
Speaker 5: get the world to stop pursuing artificial general intelligence until
Speaker 5: we know how to deal with it. And it's perfect
Speaker 5: example of a guy who can't deal with reality because
Speaker 5: he never asked answers the question what about China?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What about North Korea? What about Russia?
Speaker 5: And if you and if you say, well, I don't know,
Speaker 5: but we've just got to stop.
Speaker 2: You're not an adult.
Speaker 5: If you cannot deal with the uncomfortable reality, take a
Speaker 5: deep breath, accept it, and go on. You're not an adult.
Speaker 5: It's like the gun control discussion. Yeah, I would like
Speaker 5: to maybe, but it doesn't square with the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2: How are you gonna?
Speaker 5: Well, I know, but we've just got to do something.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you're not an adult. Armstrong E Getdy wrapping
Speaker 5: up another grueling four hour workday, grow up. So many
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Speaker 4: I am gonna try to figure out how to find
Speaker 4: that woman in Tipper. I have been shamed rightfully, so
Speaker 4: see tomorrow. God bless America. Nobody's gonna fight in the
Speaker 4: United States militarily over.
Speaker 5: I'm Strong and Getty and the American people are scratching
Speaker 5: their heads and saying, show's your genitals solve the whole problem.
Speaker 5: Oh my lord, you're a real gentleman.
Speaker 3: And we found the facts on the ground tell a
Speaker 3: different story.
Speaker 5: That can't handle her toxic ass no more. It's so unprecedential.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, the American people did not sign up
Speaker 3: for this kind of adventures
Speaker 2: By by Armstrong and Getty.