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Speaker 1: NFL Players Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 3: I'm Peanut Tooming and this is the NFL Players Second

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Speaker 3: Acts Podcast. My god, Roman, he got the black and

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Speaker 3: white up top, he got the black and white shirt,

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Speaker 3: he got the concord. Jay's on, what's up, dog, don't

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Speaker 3: hurt nothing now? Feeling good dog? Good morning? Come feeling

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Speaker 3: at his studios, were feeling live and we lit right now.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: When you call me out, I gotta do it. So

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Speaker 2: thank you for first and foremost, thank you, Peanut story. Yes,

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Speaker 2: start being yourself and the introduction only gets weirder every

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Speaker 2: time we do this. And now we're going to introduce

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Speaker 2: our guest in just the second, but first and foremost

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Speaker 2: you like that one? Peanut who we got today? Keep

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Speaker 2: back there smiling. I'm Peanut Tillman. We got a great

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Speaker 2: show for you today. One of my old teammates is

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Speaker 2: going down ten year event, three time pro bowler. One

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Speaker 2: super Bowl forty seven, I sho would have been with

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Speaker 2: but he asked us you were on the team, Peanut. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: if you're on the team, you don't win Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but he won Super Bowl forty seven. He

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Speaker 3: is a business icon. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Brendan

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Speaker 3: tom today. Joe, all right, no, I'm going to start

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Speaker 3: this one off. So Brandon, could you please share with

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Speaker 3: and what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: It's not what it sounds like. It's just it's just

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Speaker 1: peanut in Spanish, Spanish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so we go way back. You guys

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we go chest to chest, left side

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Speaker 1: Like that. When you go through a tragedy like losing

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, this is why we're together right now. Is like, actually, yes,

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Speaker 2: all right, So first question, could you please tell us

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But so my real name is Ola

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Speaker 1: Dele and so the Nigerian side, traditionally, your grandparents will

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Speaker 2: But so how did how did you That's your name

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Speaker 3: That's the Irish Irish man.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, just call me Brendan, Like why

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Speaker 1: can't just Jason Brendan? You know whatever, you got real

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Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, yeah, I feel that. Santa Cruz, Yeah, Santa

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Speaker 3: I went there exactly, back and back in sixth grade

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Speaker 3: when I lived in Monterey Old School. Yeah, good times,

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Speaker 1: Don't I mean, And they didn't call you Peanut there.

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Speaker 2: It was my government name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know you as that person, No,

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Speaker 3: Most people don't. Most most people know me is Peanut,

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Speaker 3: like my good friends. Yeah, y'all, y'all know me as Peanut.

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Speaker 1: Why is it? Like? Why is it uh peanut Charles? Though?

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Speaker 3: It That means they don't know you that well. Maybe

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Speaker 1: And but thank you? What I play eleven? Oh?

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Speaker 2: And and and and and and talking about that.

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Speaker 3: telling you not to not to be silenced. And I

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Speaker 1: Go for it. Yeah, man, I'll just say that. In

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Speaker 1: But that's what we did. So you know, like while

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Speaker 1: Devin Hester's got to be a Hall of Famer, He's

434
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Speaker 1: got to be. But to see him just do his thing,

435
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm still the only guy in the room. It's like,

436
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's go ahead. If you the only guy, Well,

437
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,120
Speaker 1: you've played. We played with them, but to play against them,

438
00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 1: you feared that man, You know what I'm saying. A

439
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: game changer. So I think no one's ever been you

440
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 1: know who's done what he's done, and the rules are

441
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 1: going to change, so it's not going to have his opportunities.

442
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 1: So let's let's go for Super Bowl forty seven real quick.

443
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 1: There was a controversial I don't know if it was

444
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 1: a call, but they thought it was.

445
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 3: It was not a call, but people people thought you

446
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 3: were right right yeah with Ja Kobe, do do you

447
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 3: think you're holding?

448
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean I was holding, but I was holding within

449
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: the rules because when you're in a double team, which

450
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 1: most people don't know is that you can hold somebody

451
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 1: from the back on a double team, but on a

452
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 1: normal block you can't do that right, because naturally if

453
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 1: you double team somebody, they're going to try to spin

454
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 1: out of it or do whatever. So the rules kind

455
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Speaker 1: of apply differently. So you just need to know the rules.

456
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 1: If you don't know the rules, then it is what

457
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Speaker 1: it is. Then maybe I can give you the rules

458
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Speaker 1: section in the NFL Code two point seven right A

459
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Speaker 1: three point five.

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Speaker 2: I agree. They allow you to holding certain situations double

461
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: teams on the outside versus gunners. Dude, you can hold

462
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: them like all day there you can. Nobody ever cares

463
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,479
Speaker 2: so to set that.

464
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Speaker 3: So that was the first play of the second half,

465
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Speaker 3: right right right right? Did the lights the lights had

466
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Speaker 3: already turned off?

467
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Speaker 1: Did man? I think it happened shortly after that, If

468
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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, it did.

469
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Speaker 2: It was like after because Baltimore really went up at

470
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Speaker 2: that point like, oh, shut this thing off before you

471
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Speaker 2: get turned the light off. The lights went, cut it off,

472
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Speaker 2: cut it off.

473
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Speaker 3: Coming back started the second half, they kick off Jakobe

474
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Speaker 3: to the house one hundred and nine right, if I'm

475
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 3: not mistake, it's one hundred and nine yards and look

476
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 3: at him go, Jun says past the fifty and he

477
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Speaker 3: is dying inside.

478
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Speaker 2: The train had a kickoff return one hundred and nine

479
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 2: yards in a touchdown time record. It's yeah, there's a

480
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Speaker 2: photo right there.

481
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Speaker 1: Hey we dancing back there.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, celebrate one hundred and nine yards. I feel like

483
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Speaker 2: it without the air hump, right, that's that's the.

484
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Speaker 1: Whole So we're just going to push it real good.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the entire kick return team, that's what we're looking

487
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 3: at right now. Yeh fIF eighty six, forty four to

488
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Speaker 3: thirty five of Jacoby number twelve right there with his

489
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Speaker 3: leg of just feeling himself, feeling good.

490
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Speaker 2: After going one hundred and nine yards coast to coast,

491
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Speaker 2: Brendan with your ankles in that position and you're it

492
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Speaker 2: looks like you're about to You're about to thrust right

493
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Speaker 2: right right. You can definitely see this on the YouTube version.

494
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Speaker 2: That's yeah.

495
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Speaker 3: So, Lindin, I don't think I've ever asked you this.

496
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Speaker 3: What was more exciting Devin's or Jacobe's, man.

497
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Speaker 1: You know, I think they probably felt the same. But

498
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Speaker 1: to do it the first play of.

499
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Speaker 2: The yeah, I was waiting for it.

500
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Speaker 1: It's never been done before you first play of the game.

501
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: But like, honestly, a lot of those emotions from the

502
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Speaker 1: from the first Super Bowl with the Bears versus the Colts,

503
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: like a lot of that stuff I don't remember, you know,

504
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: I kind of suppressed, like it really does hurt, you

505
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, losing ship, especially when you go

506
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: through that whole season, a special season together, like we're

507
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Speaker 1: the best team pretty much all year. We start the season.

508
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was eight and o or

509
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: something like that, but we went on a very nice run.

510
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Speaker 1: I'm so far to end like that. You know it

511
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: was it was you beat my New Orleans Saints. That

512
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: was that was one of the best games.

513
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Speaker 3: That was Reggie bush fault though, because Reggie Bush was

514
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 3: like trying to talk you.

515
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Speaker 2: Guys are still mad about that, clear, I'm not mad

516
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: about it was.

517
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Speaker 3: The NFC Championship game. No, I'm saying he brought it

518
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Speaker 3: on himself. It was just like he was a rookie.

519
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Speaker 1: Was like, was upset going to that game?

520
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Speaker 2: Well or lack of the covering lack was upset?

521
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: We did and we ended up covering him. So yeah,

522
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: we got the last laugh for that game. So it's cool,

523
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. An't nobody tripping on it,

524
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 3: don't don't be mad because we destroyed y'all.

525
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Speaker 1: Did we play off twice that year? No? No, they played.

526
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Speaker 2: We played the following year as well, late in the

527
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: season and Chicago won again. Yeah, and Soldier feel for me.

528
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Speaker 2: At that point, I was just tired of going through

529
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Speaker 2: the cold weather, Like why they keep going?

530
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Speaker 1: Why we keep going up here? Late in the season's different.

531
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Speaker 1: We definitely some wins off that call weather.

532
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Speaker 2: It is totally different, and until you've done it, you

533
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: don't understand it. We'll be right back after a quick break.

534
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Speaker 2: So I'm retired, you're retired. You're retired.

535
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Speaker 3: We've all been retired for a number of years, and respectively,

536
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Speaker 3: we're on our second acts. Talk to us about your

537
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: pea pod theory and how you use that in your

538
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: second act.

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00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I like to say we just transition because

540
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: you say retired. It gives people the wrong idea, like

541
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: now we ain't retiring and we're done, like we're transitioning. Yeah,

542
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: and so mat Yeah, they do better.

543
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: Tell my wife that all the time. Words about it.

544
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: It's such an intention, right, sets an energy. And so

545
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: I always say, you know, I always say transition. And

546
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: when I go speak to guys and you know, if

547
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Speaker 1: I'm working with the Ravens or if I'm working with

548
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: the Dolphins or certain teams that bring me back to

549
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: talk to guys about entrepreneurship, you don't retire and uh

550
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: so we're just going to transition. So let's just get

551
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: the R word out of here. Maybe not use it. So, yeah,

552
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: my pea pod theory is that, like you know, it's

553
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of peace and they all sit in this

554
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: pod together and it's like, Okay, what are you going

555
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: to do? How are you going to transition? And how

556
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: are you going to transition to successfully? Right? So take

557
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: your time, take your time. And so it's like the

558
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: first thing is like what are you passionate about? Right?

559
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: So that's the first pe like your passion and when

560
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you do things that you're passionate about, it's easy to

561
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: wake up, it's easy to do them, it's easy to

562
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: interact in those things. But is there something is there

563
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: a problem? Which is the next p with something that

564
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Speaker 1: you're passionate about, Like, for example, you guys like guys

565
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: are podcasting, Well, there's an opportunity here to get your

566
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: message out, to talk, to entertain, to educate, and you're

567
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: passionate about that, right, So the problem is that there's

568
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: nobody like you two in this podcasting space. So you're

569
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: solving a problem and you're providing some type of service

570
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: and there's a benefit there. So first you find the

571
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: problem around the scope of something that you're passionate about,

572
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: and then from there it's going to fill your cup

573
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Speaker 1: and it gives you purpose. So for me, I found

574
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Speaker 1: my entrepreneurship. I found it in fitness franchising. I love fitness.

575
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: I was a fitness guy. I always would you know,

576
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Peanut would always see me working out. I'd be the

577
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: first guy in there working out. I love the workouts, YadA, YadA, YadA,

578
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: like ca. So I'm passionate about working out. Well, what's

579
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: the problem in fitness. Well, America is the unhealthiest country

580
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: in the world, So there's an opportunity. Maybe I can

581
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: provide some type of fitness service to the world, and

582
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: if I can get people healthy, then that's going to

583
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Speaker 1: give me purpose. And so those are the first three

584
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: piece and then the next p is like, Okay, well

585
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: what are you doing it for? Are you doing it

586
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: for profit? Are you doing it for philanthropy? So what's

587
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: the reason that you're doing it for me. I was

588
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: doing it for profit, but I, in my instance, I

589
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: was also making a lot of money doing it, yeah,

590
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Speaker 1: you know, and helping people. So those are kind of

591
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: that's my peapot theory. And then the last p is

592
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: just people and working with people, helping people, providing a

593
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: benefit to people, being a value add to people. And

594
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: so yeah, I talk about the peapot theory and trying

595
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: to figure out like what's going to be next. And

596
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of like doing a SWAT's analysis on yourself. Strengths, weakness,

597
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: is opportunities and threats. So I kind of like put

598
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: these grids together and you're kind of just creating a

599
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: board and trying to figure it out. So this is

600
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: kind of like the first step and telling younger guys

601
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: that are transitioning out of ball. But the thing is

602
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: that you never know when you're going to transition, Right.

603
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: We're all fortunate enough to play double digit years in

604
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: the league, and if you look at these statistics, I

605
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: think it's like less than ten percent. It's three percent.

606
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I was saying three years. I was saying

607
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Speaker 3: three years. We played three years. But you're saying, let's

608
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: percent to play double digit to play double.

609
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Speaker 1: Digits, I don't know, it's like six, I don't know,

610
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Speaker 1: it's like somewhere six to ten percent when you get

611
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: to ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, of course, right, so it's

612
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: very rare.

613
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Speaker 2: Were super pleased.

614
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Speaker 1: We was out there, like cats were going home and

615
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: playing video games. We're going home to kids like getting

616
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Speaker 1: ready for I don't know school night or whatever it

617
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: was that we were going to be doing.

618
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Speaker 2: But it was another crazy stat. So when it comes

619
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Speaker 2: to like life football, ye, the journey in which you

620
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: have Taylor, look that up. The longevity of guys that

621
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Speaker 2: played ten plus.

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Speaker 1: You'll be making Taylor nervous over there. You know. They

623
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: send it up though they sent it out in the

624
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, like you get your little monthly packets or

625
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: whatever you do, they send it out. I was like, man,

626
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: this is pretty interesting. And then to go to go

627
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: to twelve years, it was like even smaller numbers. You know,

628
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: it went from like less than ten percent to like

629
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: two to three percent, right, you know, Yeah, it's wild.

630
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Speaker 1: So tell me how the orange theory in West Coast

631
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: fitness partnerships, Like, how did it developed and the next

632
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: steps of what you're trying to build as an empire. Yeah.

633
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: So oddly enough, like you know, even with marriage equality,

634
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: like there's an opportunity for me, And I answered the call.

635
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: With Orange Theory, there was an opportunity for me, and

636
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Speaker 1: I answered the call.

637
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Did you do Orange Theory? Why you were playing?

638
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: No? I found it three days after, three days.

639
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: After, send me two hours. Because I just think it's

640
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: very interesting when like the guys that do Orange Theory

641
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: versus like, oh, I'm just going to work out. It's

642
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: just another it's another lane. It's just totally it's different.

643
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: And so that's why I want to know more of

644
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 2: it and tell me how you found your way on it.

645
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. So coincidentally enough, I played in the Super Bowl

646
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: February third, twenty thirteen, and then on February sixth I

647
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: went to Orange Theory for the first time, and my exiit,

648
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Speaker 1: introduced it to me. So it's like super Bowl on Sunday,

649
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Orange Theory on Wednesday. And when I went there, I

650
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: was very surprised because when we work out, like we

651
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: pay a lot of money to work out at these

652
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: facilities and they give us these programs. We show up

653
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: at whatever sloted time you want to show up, they

654
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: have your lift program, they have your run program, or

655
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: whatever it is. It might be position specific that day,

656
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: or it might be regions or recovery, whatever it is.

657
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: But we pay a lot of money, like one thousand

658
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: a week to work out at some of these facilities.

659
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: But you can go to Orange Theory and you get

660
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: a whole program. You decide what time you want to

661
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: work out, you get a whole program, and it's whatever

662
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, like for West Coast business is like one

663
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: ninety nine a month for unlimited, right, yeah, and so

664
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: you get this in this all inclusive training program that

665
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: this is going to teach you everything like whether you're

666
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: a runner, jogger, power walker, and that's kind of your

667
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: cardio or your anaerobic cardio side, and then your lifting side.

668
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: We're going to work full body. So once I saw

669
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: the program, I'm like, man, like, these people show up

670
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: and they're happy, and they're related, and they're they're crushing

671
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: their goals and the energy is just amazing. The company

672
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: was founded in Florida. I was living in Florida at

673
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: the time, so I walked into the number of the

674
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: first Orange Theory that was ever created.

675
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Wow, that's it's a little special. Do you think it's

676
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: about the community as well, Absolutely, because I think that

677
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: that's really ever been to I have gone before. Definitely

678
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: good energy.

679
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: But there's fourteen hundred locations I walked in. There was

680
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: about eighty locations at the time, and I saw an

681
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: opportunity and through through doing my MBA and being able

682
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: to look at p and ls and business plans with

683
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: a P and L profits and losses, just looking at

684
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: at just the health of a business, you know, like

685
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: expenses and good job, good job Gary mad Loon's gonna

686
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: love that. Expenses and revenue and all that stuff. So

687
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I did my NBA while I was playing George Washington University,

688
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: so as she duves as I was transitioning out, you duve, Holly.

689
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: You know, Hunter was so one of my teammates, Hunter

690
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: Hilliburg Hillameyer, which I see kind of all the time

691
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: now because we do some business together. Yeah. But we

692
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: would we would be at practice and he would go

693
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: to Wharton, he'd go to he went to kell excuse me,

694
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: he went to yeah, Kellogg in northwest northwa.

695
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, ye, yeah, he went to Kellog.

696
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: So he would go to school after practice and he

697
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: was our starting Sam, linebacker for the Chicago Bears. Someone

698
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: I remember, I'm like, Hunter, you're going You're going back

699
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: to school. I'm like, why why would you want to

700
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: go back to school? Like you're set, I'm like, I'm

701
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: never going back to school. Fast forward five six years later.

702
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: What was I doing? I was sitting in that classroom.

703
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is the same. Yeah, this is

704
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: why I was doing that.

705
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: I think I graduated, got my NBA or I'm amba,

706
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: I got my master's in in Carolina twenty fifteen.

707
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all you guys are crazy. It's a

708
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: different thing to do while you're playing. And I make

709
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: sure you know, the Sleep Monsters undefeated. So I have

710
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: to sit front row. Yeah, so I said row. And

711
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: then of course the professor's going to be like, oh, Brendan,

712
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: so you guys are playing the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.

713
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: How's that going to be? You know? So, but now,

714
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: it was a great experience, but it taught me really

715
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: how to look at it, get business a different way.

716
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: And even like the NFL is a franchise, every team

717
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: is a franchise. So I started to put my business

718
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: cap on and my owner's cap and So when I

719
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: walked into Orange there, I saw a great opportunity to

720
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: be able to bring Orange Theory back to California. At

721
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: the time, they had a California location, And now in

722
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: our portfolio we have fifty Orange Theories, the bulk of

723
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: themar in California. We have ten in Cincinnati, Ohio. But

724
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: I was just able to really just dissect the business.

725
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: I saw a great opportunity and we started with one

726
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: and through M and A mergers and acquisitions, we're acquired

727
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: by a private equity firm, and we're able to scale up, yeah,

728
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: and buy more locations.

729
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: So I mean talking about it all was first of all,

730
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: was California always your main goal? And taking it out

731
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: there because you just saw the opportunity like you're talking about,

732
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: and you also I also want to know is your

733
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: goal and you've said it publicly, is you want to

734
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: get to one hundred Orange Series and have you got

735
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: to that? How many have you got to? And also

736
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: are you going to how close are you or are

737
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: you You're still is your goal? Steal the three hundred

738
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: dollars three hundred million their valuation?

739
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Is that still your target? Man? You did some research,

740
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: didn't you?

741
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: We read a little bit.

742
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: So manya Thomas, Okay, Thomas, I.

743
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: Mean I'm still I'm still asking the questions, but yees

744
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: shout out the town, right, So the landscape has changed.

745
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that you have to

746
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: be able to to be valuable, and change is the

747
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: landscape changes. So COVID really changed the fitness business. It

748
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: made everything different. Yeah, it made I tell you, I

749
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: agree so that it changes. So I got to be

750
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: able to change. I got to be able to adjust

751
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: to that. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think we'll

752
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: be able to get to one hundred orange theories now.

753
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: But I've pivoted and so I still sit on the

754
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: board with my company, West Coast Fitness. We actually have

755
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: a board call today. But so I also invested into

756
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: another franchise that's called Kids Strong, and we currently have

757
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: three units open, we have three units in progress, and

758
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: so I think between the two, I'll be able to

759
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: get to one hundred between the two and still get

760
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: to that that valuation that I'm So, tell me what

761
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Kids Strong is. Let's let's talk about that. Yes, So

762
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: it's an accelerated childhood development program. You know, we focus

763
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: on are you guys lifting weights or it's so the

764
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: kids are doing milestone based activities. So you know, like

765
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: if you're if you're two years old, you should be

766
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: able to jump in land off of two feet as

767
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: you start to as you start to get into all kindergarten.

768
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: All kids can't do that though, like we.

769
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: Right, all kids can't do that, but we got to

770
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: just face reality.

771
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: Like kids, but just like everything is not for everybody

772
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: though based not for everybody.

773
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: You're baby gonna be on the sideline holding the sticks.

774
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Like let's just just like not for everybody, but like,

775
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: but the majority of kids milestone based, the majority of

776
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: healthy young kids can jump and land off of two feet.

777
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: When you start to get into kindergarten and first grade,

778
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: you start to work on penmanship or what makes your

779
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: hand strong. Well, hanging does, so we have the kids hang,

780
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: so we do we do milestone based fitness for the

781
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: children instead are going to help them and apply to life.

782
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: So they also we work on their character. So they

783
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: have to present and they have to talk in front

784
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: of a crowd, well in front of their other pupils

785
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: in the class. And so yeah, so it's like imagine

786
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: just we're working on all these different things from brain, body,

787
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: and character to develop those things and your children from

788
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: age one all the way to age eleven when they

789
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: age out.

790
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, now are you still investing with Tonal?

791
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: I am still investing with Tonal, but I'm not working

792
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: with Tonal anymore. So, I mean my money is there.

793
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: The money is just sitting in.

794
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: We're room for it.

795
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you're not You're not always going

796
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: to win, but once AGA mean you're wearing a Tesla shirt.

797
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: I am wearing a Tesla shit. I mean you're I

798
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: love it. You gotta have a diversified portfolio. Come on now,

799
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: diversity I hear me. I'm with you. But everything is

800
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: not going to be a winner. So you got to

801
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: take you know, you gotta you see an opportunity. You

802
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: think you have a chance. You look at the business model.

803
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: You look at who's running the company. Do they have

804
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, a great leader, a great CEO, a great founder?

805
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: Is it a great product? What's the market? What's the

806
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: what's the landscape like? So the fitness landscape has changed

807
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: a lot. So you know, you got to be able

808
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: to be able to mold and bend and.

809
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: Let's look at your let's looking at your w's and l's.

810
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: What is that my wins and losses. It's smart, it's smart,

811
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: staying right there, staying current.

812
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm with that.

813
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: I like that, though, what's it talk to me?

814
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: You know?

815
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: So I feel like I can still play.

816
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: I look like I can still play, but technically I

817
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 3: probably still can't play.

818
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: We every everything I can get it.

819
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: I can get three practices in no doubt, no doubt,

820
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: no doubt, Thomas, I can still dunk. I can still there.

821
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: I can dunk vertical right now. Okay, I'm just trying

822
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: to tell you I can still. I can still dunk

823
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: on a ten foot goal on a ten foot goal vertically.

824
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: It might take me four or five times, but in

825
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: the end, I'm like, I'm gonna still get it done.

826
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: No doubt I can do that. My question is, we're

827
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: all fitness gurus, we all work out. What's it been

828
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: like for you traveling around the world speaking and preaching

829
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: the gospel of fitness to people around the world. How

830
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: has that been.

831
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: I think it's been, you know, like I'm kind of

832
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: a testament of what I'm speaking about, you know. So

833
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: it's like I always try to be an example when

834
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: it comes to fitness, but it's so much more than

835
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: just the way that I look. It's you know, I

836
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: was talking to Jocelyn. It's like, okay, well, like what

837
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: are my organs like? You know, like what does my

838
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: face look like? What does my parents look like? So

839
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: it's a holistic approach, and for me, it's longevity. So

840
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: when I think about my fitness, like how do I

841
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: get to one hundred and be functional and be happy

842
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: and be healthy and be pain free? Can I get

843
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: to one thirty and still do that? People are like, no,

844
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: take me out. I don't want to make it to

845
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: one hundred. But I want to be like old Testament

846
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: right there. I want to be more ham Yeah, I

847
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: want to be able. I want to be capable, you

848
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like I think about everything.

849
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: So it's diet, it's sleep, it's you know, like what

850
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: am I putting in my body in terms of supplementation,

851
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: stress levels, happiness levels, like, so there's a lot of

852
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: different things that I take into it. It's not just fitness,

853
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know, in the grand scheme of things,

854
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: fitness might be the third or fourth most important thing

855
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: is you're working out. But it's like what's your sleep, like,

856
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: what's your diet? Like, what's your stress levels? Like stress

857
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: pressure can bust pipes. We know, stress can us cancer,

858
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there's a lot of

859
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: different variables that and things that I like to talk

860
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: about and bring to fruition. But it's more than just fitness.

861
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: I think fitness is kind of for me, it's more

862
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: of a stress reliever and a release and then it

863
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: helps me get my rocks off to a little bit,

864
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, like you're talking about dunking or whatnot, Like

865
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: it just makes my quality of life better. But I

866
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: want to be able to you know, I want to

867
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: be able to move some things and do some things

868
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: and keep tabs a little bit, you know what I'm saying.

869
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, Ba, it was always in the cut off

870
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: shirt in the locker room. You know, Oh Thomas, are

871
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: you ready? He's oh no, are you ready? Oh no?

872
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about.

873
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: It right now with ding, you know, walking in slow motions,

874
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: sh shout out to my son.

875
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm a Dan's prime for filming that right there.

876
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: That's not that's not professionals a little bit more.

877
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: Look at it. Look at the face on him, like

878
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: the face.

879
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: You look like a baseball player.

880
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: You ain't got my friend like a Latino Dominicans. Yeah,

881
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: oh man, y'all had to just put me on. It's okay.

882
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: You mean we put you on.

883
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: You put that out, you put it out there.

884
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: We didn't. I mean we do, right. I mean, there's

885
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: a lot of different things you could have posted on there.

886
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: You could have put a picture with me and Obama

887
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: up there if you really wanted to hype me up, that.

888
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: We could have did that. That's boy, but I own that.

889
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: People want to see that. I mean it helps though

890
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: that you are a fit guy. If you're I wouldn't

891
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: respect you if you had a fitness of you talk

892
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: about all this orangetree and he was like five hundred pounds.

893
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, I'm not working on it.

894
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: But did your did your did your football coach play football? Though?

895
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: Did Bob Babbage play football?

896
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: He did in high school? He did in college. Most

897
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: college coaches have I'm sorry, mostro coaches that got to

898
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: the college just they.

899
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Got to the college level. It takes.

900
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: It's there's not a lot of Ron Riveras out there.

901
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: No, That's what I'm saying right now, right, So, I mean.

902
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: You could teach people how to be fit. You don't

903
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: have to be an example like that, but it does

904
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: help to be an example.

905
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: So let me here. Here's here's you should not apologize for.

906
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: That's not apologize.

907
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: I own that. Yeah, but for sure I think it's

908
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: I think it's even funnier because as we look through

909
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: your Instagram, you got certain videos some similar to that.

910
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: Then you got a serious face and I'm like, so

911
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: what do we sell it? Like? What are we doing?

912
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: I love it.

913
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: I think it's awesome that.

914
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, I had to I had to rebrand the

915
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: I G you know right right, I had to rebrand

916
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying wrong with that?

917
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of aps CrossFit. Are they

918
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: athletes or are they just people that work out athletes?

919
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: The crossfitters are athletes.

920
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: This is a this is a big deal here, so

921
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: for me personally, So, Sean Payton broke his leg when

922
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: you're not parting attention to my fellow on the sidelines,

923
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: broke his leg.

924
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: He's a big cross better.

925
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: He's a huge CrossFit right, so he went into this

926
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: whole CrossFit thing where like he's just going to recover

927
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: and that's what he got through, he got stronger, he

928
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: got lower, body got stronger for him, he got stronger.

929
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: And then he was like, all right, we're instead of

930
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: the normal conditioning test where we're doing three hundred yards

931
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: shuttles or whatever that is to get right for the season,

932
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna do like CrossFit games. So you had to

933
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: do like so many hang cleans, so many like like

934
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: power cleans from the floor. Then you had to do

935
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: like these jump over the bar. The man, it's not

936
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: even about that. The bottom line is this. He set

937
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: a time for all the NFL guys. We all had

938
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: to hit these certain times to do this, and then

939
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: he had all his CrossFit buddies come in from his big.

940
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: Gym, and they destroyed the NFL Times.

941
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: No, No, the NFL times destroyed theirs.

942
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Well, the pro crossfitters though, right.

943
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a total different Nettle.

944
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're spot on with that.

945
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: It was just funny to see because like the original

946
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: thought process goes exactly where you were. It was like,

947
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: these guys are going to destroy whatever we did, and

948
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: then you come to find out, no, actually we're still

949
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: superior athletes and we know how to almost a sudden

950
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: like when we get really tired, we just pushed through. Yeah,

951
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: Like that's just what we do as athletes. And it

952
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: seems like you've done that in business. You found a

953
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: way to be successful in other lanes. I think that's

954
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. And what you're talking about that you

955
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: know you weren't you balled out at UCLA. You know,

956
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: we can go all the way back to the USC

957
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: game where you had like four sacks. All you did

958
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: was just eat and this is what you were. You

959
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: were a great player there. And then you found a

960
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: way to be successful through the Canadian league. You bounce

961
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: around from CFL to other leagues in football, just trying

962
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: to make it. You went to NFL Europe right, right,

963
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: and so, and then you find your way a couple

964
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: of practice squads. It didn't matter about anything. You're one

965
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: of those that like a testament that I'm going to

966
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: find a way to be successful at whatever I'm doing,

967
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: no matter what. How how does that happen? How could

968
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: you share your story or say a couple of words

969
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: of advice to all those that want to be successful,

970
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: whether it's life, whether it's football, all the different avenues.

971
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 2: What was the one piece of advice that you say like, Okay,

972
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: through it all, this is what's got me through.

973
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I've always been an underdog and I've

974
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: always been underestimated, and but I never would quit. So

975
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, I just have that underdog that that big

976
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: that big heart, in that big fight mentality. So for me,

977
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm always failing forward. And if I'm not failing at

978
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, then I'm not the goal. The moonshot

979
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: goal isn't high enough. And so I think a lot

980
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: of people when they fail, they think that failure, you know,

981
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: means that you did something wrong. Well you actually what's

982
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: the process once you fail? It's like do you take notes?

983
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Do you regroup or do you have baby steps? Like

984
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: Elon Musk when you launched his first rocket, He's like,

985
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: I just want to get this rocket off off the platform. Yeah. Right.

986
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: The goal isn't to get like the goals to get

987
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: to Mars, but I just want this rocket to get

988
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: off the platform. So he knows like, okay, I need

989
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: this rocket to last fifteen seconds. Just launch. Then the

990
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: next rocket's like okay, this next rocket's going to last

991
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: one minute. Then eventually I'm going to take a rocket

992
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: up and I'm going to land it. So I think,

993
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, you can quit at just getting off the platform,

994
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: or you can fail forward and you continue to fight

995
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: and strive. And so everyone has different goals, different aspirations.

996
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: I've always had big goals, big dreams, big aspirations as

997
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: a kid that grew up in the projects of Chicago

998
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: to play for the Chicago Bears. You know, when I

999
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: moved out of Chicago, the Bears had won their last

1000
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Walter Payton and Jim McMahon, that amazing team, right,

1001
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: Mike Singletary a linebacker. So for me to finally make it,

1002
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I got to be a Chicago Bear.

1003
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: I got to play in the NFL, you know. And

1004
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: eventually I reached that goal. But I got cut three

1005
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: times before I even made my first team. In fact,

1006
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: the Bears was one of the teams that cut me.

1007
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: I don't think I knew that.

1008
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was it was ir Lackers. First year

1009
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I was actually with the Bears. I signed with them,

1010
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: So two thousand, two thousand was the year. Yeah, yeah,

1011
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: so they cut me that year and then it was

1012
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: just kind of poetic justice that I came back and

1013
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: they traded for me in two thousand and five. But yeah,

1014
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: I think just failing forward is very important. But you

1015
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: have to do self analysis as well. For sure. You

1016
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: can't just think like you're going to fail and if

1017
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 1: you do the same thing, then you're probably just gonna

1018
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: fail again. So you do that self analysis and fail forward.

1019
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: Take those notes. What lessons did you learn? And so

1020
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: I usually don't say losses. I say lessons instead of losses.

1021
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: So you have wins and lessons. And that's basically just

1022
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: trying again and not giving up being that underdog. So

1023
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: it kind of all all the DNA was there for me.

1024
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. So being that we are in LA,

1025
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: thanks for your answer.

1026
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: This this is a he's big, big Kobe fan and

1027
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: a testament by you being an underdog. And I know

1028
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant had the late great Kobe Bryant had that

1029
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: mama mentality. To talk to us about what Kobe meant

1030
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: to you and how he inspires you.

1031
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: Well, I was actually at a at a special conference

1032
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: for orange theory. But yeah, I was on a plane

1033
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: when I actually heard what happened, and I was flying

1034
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: back from an orange theory conference, like a special conference

1035
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: for orange theory and then I'd heard what happened, and

1036
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: like you hear about celebrities and people dying all the time,

1037
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: but Kobe was such an instrumental piece of LA and

1038
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: getting LA a championship and whatnot. But man, I cried

1039
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: when when Kobe passed away. And I'm friends with his

1040
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: sister Sha Shah Bryant, but just to see everything that

1041
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: he did. He'd be on campus when I was at

1042
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: UCLA as well. Yeah, he'd be there working out, going

1043
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: to the gym. Yeah, he'd be doing that, but he'd

1044
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: be doing some other things on campus too.

1045
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: It's a nice campus. I've been out there. It ain't bad.

1046
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: It's not bad.

1047
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: He was definitely working out and playing, but he was enjoying,

1048
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: you know. I mean at the time, he was just

1049
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: he was a teenager, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, was before

1050
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: he was married and all that stuff, right, Yeah, But yeah,

1051
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: I think just the Mamba mentality and everything that he's done.

1052
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: But then to also see him transform and continue to

1053
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: level up and get better because he had had mentioned

1054
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: a gay slur during a game and caught a bunch

1055
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: of flack for it, and what did he do. He

1056
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: stepped up and he embraced it. And so he leaned

1057
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: into the gay community and he started donating and learning

1058
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: and started preaching love when it comes to the LGBTQ community.

1059
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: And then he stopped saying and he gay slurs and

1060
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So to see somebody that was already

1061
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: that great and there was still space for greatness, that

1062
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: says a lot like what if you're good, if you're

1063
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: just good, then there's a high ceiling for you to

1064
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: improve and to get better. And so don't just rest

1065
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: on your laurels and think that good is good enough,

1066
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: just like Kobe was great, but being where he was

1067
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't good enough. So I think he taught us

1068
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: a lot of lessons and very instrumental person in LA.

1069
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Actually brought my daughter to the crash site. Oh wow, yeah,

1070
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: just you know, just just up north here, north of

1071
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: LA and brought him to the crash site and brought

1072
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: my daughter to the crash site and we brought flowers

1073
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: for him and his daughter. So yeah, it was it was.

1074
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Speaker 1: It was a sad time, but yeah, and I still think,

1075
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, LA is still affected by it. But yeah,

1076
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: it's rare to have a person that amazing, and it

1077
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: shows way too soon that we lost such a special

1078
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: person for sure.

1079
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Speaker 3: So, so here's a question that we never asked anybody

1080
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: on the show, right, You've had why me?

1081
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: No, No, it's I'm just yeah, is this something?

1082
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Are you just feeling it?

1083
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: I'm just feeling it right now off the cuff freestyle

1084
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: something we never asked anybody shows my book.

1085
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1086
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: Is this his add kicking in? Possibly?

1087
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: So You've had a very successful life, great career in

1088
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: the NFL. Business wise, you're you're killing it right now

1089
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: in the fitness world, business world. Excuse me. If you

1090
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 3: had a Mount Rushmore for people on Mount Rushmore, if

1091
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: you had a Mount Rushmore of mentors, who would they be?

1092
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: Of mentors?

1093
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Huh?

1094
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: Mentors? Yeah, who helped you just throughout life? Yeah, came

1095
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 2: up with that.

1096
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: That's a good one, you know why because I've never

1097
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: really had a mentor. And there's one person that's been

1098
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: very instrumental in my life.

1099
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't have to be mentors, just like people

1100
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: that have helped you.

1101
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: That people just have been instrumental of, Like people that

1102
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: she's like, yo, man, I yeah, this person, that person,

1103
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: that person, and that person.

1104
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: There's been pivotal moments. There's definitely been pivotal moments, like

1105
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: I kind of like marched to the beat of my

1106
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: own drum. But the most instrumental person in my success

1107
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: is my older brother, Obafemi, and he's eighteen months older

1108
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: than me, and everything that I ever did, he was

1109
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: kind of the icebreaker and so he would clear the

1110
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: path and it was harder for him to do it,

1111
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: but I eventually did it and he made it easier

1112
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: for me. So being that he was my brother, some

1113
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: drunk my brother always, but at some junctures he was

1114
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: my father, my protector, helping me get tryouts and workouts

1115
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: with NFL teams and whatnot. So he did a lot

1116
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: for me.

1117
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: Is he still that same impact on your life? Do

1118
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: you feel like I.

1119
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: Think he is. But you know, being that he was

1120
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: eighteen months older, which isn't a lot, but a kid

1121
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: when you was seven and one is you is five,

1122
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: that's a big gap, you know what I'm saying. He's like, like,

1123
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: that's twenty five percent older than me, you know what

1124
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But now the gap is kind of shrunk

1125
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: and we're more so on the same playing field and

1126
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: we kind of sharpened each other, but there was always

1127
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: more competition in my house because him and I were

1128
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: just at each other's throats all the time. And then

1129
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: eventually we figured it out that like it's me and

1130
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: you against everybody, it's not me and you against each other,

1131
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, he was probably the most important.

1132
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: And I think the next pivotal moment for me was

1133
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: probably in two thousand and eight and I was back

1134
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: at UCLA and I was visiting my linebacker coach, Bobby Field,

1135
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: and he's the assistant at the time, he was the

1136
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: assistant athletic director and he was my linebacker coach at UCLA,

1137
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: and then eventually he was assistant head coach at UCLA.

1138
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: And he's been in kind of sports and academia his

1139
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: whole career. And I said, Coach, you know, it's two

1140
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I've been playing ball for five years now.

1141
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm you know, just what's next, you know, I'm trying

1142
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: to figure out what's next for me, What advice or

1143
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: what you know, what could you tell me to help

1144
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: me in that department? And I'm thinking about, you know,

1145
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: I want to be in in athletics and higher education.

1146
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I want to be an athletic director

1147
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: one day. He's like, Brendan, go get your MBA, go back,

1148
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: go back to school and get your MBA. And and

1149
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I did. And so that was a

1150
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: pivotal moment. I remember that conversation and I remember doing

1151
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: it and completing it.

1152
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: Why did he say the NBA was so important for

1153
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: you at the time?

1154
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: Do you think he saw that?

1155
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: Did you just see like you were just different, You

1156
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: needed to be more focused on that that that lane

1157
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: of business.

1158
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Is that what it was? Yeah? I think so, because

1159
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: I already had that the athletic acumen in the athletic education,

1160
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: so he wanted me to get the business acumen. And

1161
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know at the time there was Now

1162
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of internships and different things that they

1163
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: do for additional education, Like we didn't have any of

1164
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: that stuff. No, no, no, we're when we're in the league

1165
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: back then. So he's like, yeah, just go get your NBA.

1166
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: That's probably the best thing.

1167
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: You can come more morehole like ballistic and then all

1168
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: a sudden, business, do you get your masters?

1169
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: No? Just us, peanut, just me, Sorry, I'm just throwing

1170
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: it out there. Anybody else in the studio have a master's?

1171
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Just me? And peanut. Yeah. Man, yes, sorry, yes, sir, yes,

1172
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: I was smart. Man, It's all good, all right, Well,

1173
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man, uh o, thank you. That was

1174
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: really good. I don't know if you got all four,

1175
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: did you know? I mean, I think those were kind

1176
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: of like the two the.

1177
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Two brother twice and the coach twice. Okay, they got,

1178
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 2: they got, they got.

1179
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: Two faces on the on the on the on the

1180
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: mountain that I just like, I just didn't know if

1181
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: he finished.

1182
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: Up, I mean, and then like watching the way that

1183
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: the Ravens run their organization and their program, so Dick

1184
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: casts was very you know, there's some little moments with

1185
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Dick casts as well, But doesn't you know I pretty

1186
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: much marched to the beat of my own drum a lot.

1187
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm kind of, you know, I'm kind

1188
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: of a different guy, kind of like what they is,

1189
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, different.

1190
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: I like it. B A Hey man, we appreciate you.

1191
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming out, Thank you for having me

1192
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: on much.

1193
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: Continue success in the Orange Theory and everything else. Man,

1194
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: You're you're very diversified. I love your story, I love

1195
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: your journey. Continue to beat you know, go off your own,

1196
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: beat up your own drum. I think that's a It's

1197
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 2: been a blessing and a really good thing for you, man,

1198
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: So shout out to you.

1199
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you for allowing me to share

1200
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: my story in and get my message out.

1201
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Peanut. This my guy Roman Black and White Harbor.

1202
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: So he's so random. All right, Thank you guys as always.

1203
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: Man for all of our listeners and everybody out there

1204
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: watching and wherever you pick up your podcast, whether it's

1205
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: Apple Podcaster, iHeartRadio podcast, continue to take a listen, give

1206
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: us a.

1207
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Five star rating.

1208
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: Shout out to those that are hitting that button, follow,

1209
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: give us a review, continue to tell a friend, to

1210
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: tell a friend, to tell a friend. We're going to

1211
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 2: continue to spread the word, continue to share more stories

1212
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: like Brendon and I I have Adasio, and continue to

1213
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: shine the light on the transition of all of our

1214
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: second app as we all continue to grow and be

1215
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: better by sharing each other's story.

1216
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: So Peanut, tell them what we're doing.

1217
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: Man, we're done.

1218
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 3: That's it on Peanuts NFL Player Seconds podcast and we out.

1219
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: That was what we talked about. Tell them what we

1220
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 2: were doing.

1221
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I want out. Maybe that's what that's

1222
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: exactly that's exactly what I want you to do.