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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and I'm pretty sleepy today I might

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Speaker 1: just take a nap, but not before talking about some

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Speaker 1: of the most extraordinary sleeping beauties in the animal Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch some z s with naptime transformers, contortionists, animals

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Speaker 1: who barely need a wink, and animals who slept and

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Speaker 1: past their larm by a few years. Discover this and

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Speaker 1: more as we answer the usual question, how do you

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Speaker 1: sleep floating in the middle of the sea, You'll be

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Speaker 1: utterly surprised. Joining me today is podcast host NERD expert

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Speaker 1: and nap extraordinary Alexis Tauruss. Hello, I actually just woke

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Speaker 1: up from a nap, so I am ready to learn

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Speaker 1: about all the things. I'm a terrible, terrible sleeper, but

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Speaker 1: now being I'm great as Yes, I had to take

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Speaker 1: a nap yesterday while I was writing these notes, because

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Speaker 1: seeing these sleepy little animals is just like awesome. Nice.

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Speaker 1: I take nap when I feel it's fun. I kind

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Speaker 1: of feel the same way. Sometimes I'm not the best sleeper,

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Speaker 1: but I can nap anytime. I could be a competitive napper.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be a business that we should

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Speaker 1: all get into for sure. Like I just it's just

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Speaker 1: so nice because I never understood why I can't sleep

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Speaker 1: when it's actually time to sleep, but just in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the day, it's like, oh this chair is

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Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy. Well, maybe you will identify more

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Speaker 1: with some of these animals who have sleeping patterns that

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Speaker 1: are not you know, I would say, not like what

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Speaker 1: we typically think a living thing should be. That sounded

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Speaker 1: really insulting to the animals. It's not what I'm into say,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I got what you mean. You know. Um,

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Speaker 1: But first, before we get into these napping animals, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about a very interesting well actually not,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything. I just want you to

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Speaker 1: look at this normal video guy picking up a leaf.

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Speaker 1: I love how you're like, it's totally normal, it's totally

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Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Just watch this video of a

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Speaker 1: guy picking up a normal lead. I don't trust you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching. I'm watching. Oh what wait wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: that was exactly what I was going to say. I

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Speaker 1: to narrate what you're watching for listeners. So she's watching

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Speaker 1: a video of a man picking up a dead leaf

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Speaker 1: and as he picks it up, this dead leaf transforms

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Speaker 1: into beautiful butterfly. But like it's magic. But this is

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Speaker 1: like the like if people could see my screen right now,

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Speaker 1: this is like the sixth time I have played this

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Speaker 1: going No, it's a magic trick. It's a magician. Katie's

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Speaker 1: a magician. She found magic tricks on the internet and

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Speaker 1: that's what she's doing. She's mad, I'm being punked, is

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Speaker 1: what it is? Where the cameras besides the zoom camera upset? Well,

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Speaker 1: this is this is a real no tricks, no, no

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Speaker 1: Michael Bay camera magic. This is called Kalima inkis also

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Speaker 1: known as the orange oak leaf or dead leaf butterfly.

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Speaker 1: So so this is the perfect disguise to be able

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Speaker 1: to take a nap in my opinion, because sometimes and

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Speaker 1: you got it. You've got responsibilities and stuff. But if

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Speaker 1: I could just like if I could camouflage is like

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Speaker 1: a pile of clothes or dead leaf. It would be

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Speaker 1: and these butterflies have absolutely mastered it. So you can

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Speaker 1: see the pictures of these butterflies, they look just exactly

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Speaker 1: they open up their their wings, it's actually quite colorful.

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Speaker 1: They do look like a colorful butterfly. They have a

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Speaker 1: is this amazing example of cryptic mimicry or camouflage, where

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Speaker 1: the butterfly imitates a dead leaf to evade predation. So

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Speaker 1: the orange oak leaf butterfly is found in Southeast Asia

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Speaker 1: and they are it's actually goes beyond just this one

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Speaker 1: So it's like they have depending on when they're born

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Speaker 1: is an incredible paying they're paying such incredible attention to

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Speaker 1: We've only gone one animal in so many to get through.

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to say that, like I always forget

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Speaker 1: that type of pray mantis that also kind of looks

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Speaker 1: there's stick bugs bugs. They are also orchid mantises. Those

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Speaker 1: are my favorite mantis, and you know, I don't like

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Speaker 1: that sex, so that's safe. But yeah, I love the

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Speaker 1: fact that they change. I mean, obviously, you know, they

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Speaker 1: definitely looks like something you would walk across like any forest.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh wow, these leaves are everywhere, and then

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Speaker 1: very interesting. And they also have another trick up their

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Speaker 1: and so it's in hopes of tricking the predator that

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Speaker 1: thought of everything. These butterflies. I need to learn the tricks.

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Speaker 1: Just tell me, tell me how to do that. If

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Speaker 1: I can just like disappear like hobbit, cloak myself into

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Speaker 1: I just become this bigger version of myself that oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I'm like, yeah, that's right. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Pay sorry, And I'm like, that's right, I'm going back

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Speaker 1: And they actually they do they change their camouflage based

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, leaves don't walk, and then it's like, ah,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy just thinking about that, because I can't even

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Speaker 1: not happening. That's why that video is so interesting, and

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Speaker 1: just so sometimes instead of hiding while sleeping, you've actually

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Speaker 1: talk about the malachite sunbird. So malachite sunbirds are small

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Speaker 1: nectar drinking birds found in Ethiopia and South Africa. They

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Speaker 1: But male malkite sunbirds when they are sleeping they will

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Speaker 1: flaunt their pectoral fathers while sleeping toward off predators. No, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with you, but it is.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty cute, like just these little bro birds like,

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Speaker 1: gonna see every time now, and just put a little

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Speaker 1: at all and getting at least you think you're getting

424
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: your work done. That's so bad for me that I

425
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: was in an English class and I guess I had

426
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: perfected the whole like sleeping while my eyes were open

427
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: and still seeming conscious. So I wanted to perfect that

428
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: so hard. We were talking about some like, oh we're

429
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: talking about I think it was like it was Candide,

430
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: I think or some like old some old ass book

431
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: and there's like a part of it where like this

432
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: woman gets her butt cut off for something. It's a

433
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: weird book. It's a super weird so it makes sense

434
00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: or history, like I get it, but according and like

435
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: after the class, a couple of students came up to

436
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: me and they're like, like, you're so funny. I'm like,

437
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Uh? And they said, well,

438
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the thing you said about, like like when when we're

439
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: talking about this scene in the book and you're like,

440
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: You're like, does get stitches? It's like what I said that? No,

441
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I didn't like and I was like, apparently asleep, But

442
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: I said because I have no memory of saying that.

443
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: It was so weird, I guess a secondhand embarrassment. And

444
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: then also, can we talk about what like iconic line

445
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: that is like good for you? But at the same time,

446
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm like English class in front of like a professor

447
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: because it's like a small it was like a section.

448
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: It was like in front of a professor, and I

449
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: was just like what I was just like, I had

450
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: no memory of it. I would never say that while conscious,

451
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: especially like an English class. But it was so embarrassing. Anyways,

452
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: back to Graffs. I love that segment. It was beautiful. Yeah.

453
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: So they only sleep about four and a half hours

454
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: a day. Most of the time they sleep standing up,

455
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: with only about twelve minutes of that time in a

456
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: recumbent face on but sleep position. Yeah, I mean, again,

457
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't blame them, because, my goodness, I don't think

458
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: I could be able to get more than like an

459
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: hour or two of sleep if I was in this position.

460
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: It would just be It just sounds awful. But I

461
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: mean I also understand what you were saying earlier, like

462
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: how were they supposed to sleep comfortably, like actually comfortably?

463
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: You know, because they have these ridiculous like their body portions,

464
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: they have all these things like what do much much

465
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: like you, alexis their sleep cycle is broken up into

466
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: naps and fragmented sleep. So it's, you know, apparently that's

467
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: what it is. Hey, as long as you're getting some

468
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: sort of sleep, you know, because again, as Katie has

469
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: already talked about, not having sleep is awful, like the

470
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: like the delusions they they're Oh, it's bad. I also

471
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: hate it when like you haven't slept and then when

472
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: you do finally not off to sleep, and you think

473
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: that you're getting ready to go somewhere, and then that

474
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: I hate that. I've had a chain like that where

475
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: it's like I have that thing where you're sleeping that

476
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: you're getting ready and you're like, oh, but I've woken

477
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: up now and now I'm getting ready, but then you're

478
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: still asleep. Yeah, it's awful. It was one where like

479
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: I was sleeping and I thought I got into the

480
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: shower and like was like getting dressed, and I woke

481
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: up and I was already dressed and like eating breakfast,

482
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: and then I woke up again and it was definitely

483
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: still in bed and I was an hour late, and

484
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I was like breaking out. It's like trying to like

485
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: when you're trying to run in your dream that you're

486
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Yeah, I hate it. It makes me

487
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: feel like maybe we're all reincarnated from animals that got

488
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: in the Librea tar pits, and it's just like everything

489
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm living out this this wouly mammoth's nightmare of getting

490
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: stuck in the Librea tar pits in my sleep. Oh God,

491
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: just to add that to the next nightmare of fuel,

492
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: just add it at it's actually probably what it is

493
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: is that when you're sleeping your body is actually like

494
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: sort of temporarily paralyzed. Yeah, you're the ponds, which is

495
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: part of your brain, stops sending signals to the rest

496
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: of your body. So in your dream sometimes if you

497
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: have some disrupted sleep where you start to get inputs

498
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: from your brain that normally you wouldn't get. And so

499
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: you're trying to run in your dream, but then you're

500
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: getting some feedback from your body of like, but my

501
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: body is not moving. You're sleeping, Like what are you

502
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: talking about? So it's like so then you get this

503
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: like weird thing of like I'm trying to run in

504
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: my dream, but I'm moving really slowly, and yeah, that's

505
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: very Yeah, it's very interesting what happens. Like when our

506
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: sleep gets kind of disrupted, something goes around. It's the

507
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: same thing with sleep paralysis, like when you wake up

508
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: and you can't move. I always something that felt back.

509
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: Had a roommate that had that, and it was just

510
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: rough because like sometimes like if I was studying late,

511
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: I could you know, She'll mean she can't tap me

512
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: or do anything, but I would hear her like trying

513
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: to like because obviously she can't speak either. So she's

514
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: like trying, and I can hear her struggling, and I'm like,

515
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do, you know, But I

516
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: also know that it's probably ten times worse if you're

517
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: going through it then being like a person that's next

518
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: to someone going through it and was well. I mean,

519
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: so I've had sleep paralysis occasionally. It's usually only when

520
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm like really sleep deprived, and for whatever reason, the

521
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: type of sleep paralysis I get, I don't get afraid

522
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: when i'm having it, which is weird because I do

523
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: get I do get like panic sort of sleep. I

524
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: have like panic attacks that I wake up from when

525
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking, which is sort of awful. I like your

526
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: heart is beating and you're like, oh, I'm dying, and

527
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: then you wake up and you're like, oh, I'm fine. Yeah.

528
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: One time when I had one of those, I thought

529
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: I literally, like my sleep brain literally thought that I

530
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: spat my heart out through my mouth and it came

531
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: out of my mouth. I was like, oh no, my

532
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: heart fell out of my mouth. And I woke up,

533
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: and then there's that time of confusion where you're like, wait, no,

534
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: that's not that's not right. You can't do that that's

535
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: all possible, that's not possible. Yeah, I've totally had that. Yeah,

536
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: I would rather take no, I would rather take sleeping

537
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: on my ass than than that, for sure. Head on,

538
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: but head on. But that's maybe Maybe giraffes know what

539
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: they're doing, maybe like yoga sleeping apparently. But this this

540
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: next one that we're gonna be talking about, which I

541
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: have been, like, I'm not obsessed, but it's always been

542
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: a thing that I've like, even from when I was

543
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: a child, I was always like, how how do wale sleep?

544
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: How do they do do they sleep? Just like how

545
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: when they're swimming do they like I don't know, like

546
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: belly up? Like how? Like how do you how? How?

547
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: And then when someone finally show me how they did it,

548
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 1: I could not stop talking about it. I wanted to

549
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: know more. I wanted to try it when I was

550
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: like eight years old. Obviously it doesn't work that way

551
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: because I don't have guilt, Like it was just like

552
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: whole whales don't have guilts, you know what I mean,

553
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Like like the fact that they can they can breathe underwater,

554
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: but like so they can hold their breath for like, Yeah,

555
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: I was so mad. I was like I just want

556
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: to try this thing. Tell me I want to do it,

557
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: so you will drown. Don't do it, kids, don't do it.

558
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Don't don't be Like Alexis learned from her childhood mistakes.

559
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: Seven year old Alexis didn't know what she was talking about.

560
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: She just thought it was cool and really wanted to

561
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: do it. Don't don't do it. It It was awful. Whales.

562
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Whales are actually so whales have to breathe by surfacing,

563
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: but they can hold their breath just ridiculous amounts of

564
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: time underwater. So yeah, it's it's crazy. I know I

565
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: want whale powers, just wants please. But yeah, Alexis, so

566
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: have you thought so? Sperm whales they're big, They're they're huge, huge, huge,

567
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: huge animals. I don't understand when you think about them sleeping,

568
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to fathom. And they're one of the world's

569
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: least sleep dependent animals and they only spend seven percent

570
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: of their days sleeping in total, according to research, So

571
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: that's just under two hours a day. Oh, I can't

572
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: be a functional person. It re probably slept for two hours.

573
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: Well you wouldn't, you'd be you'd be a functional whale.

574
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean that is true. That is very very true.

575
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't see this is why seven year old Alexis is

576
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: obsessed because she knew. She was like, Oh, when I

577
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: become an adult, if this is possible to be functional

578
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: on two hours to sleep, I would get so much done.

579
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like when I was a kid, it

580
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: did seem really unfair to me that so much time

581
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: was taken by sleep. It's like, but you're not doing

582
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: anything anything. I mean, like, why do we have to sleep?

583
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: That seems like doctors should fix that. I want to

584
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: figure out a way to like just like give me

585
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: eight hours of sleep in a liquid or something. I

586
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: mean when I was then, when I was an adult.

587
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: Now that I'm an adult, it's like, I do not

588
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: want caffeine. I want to sleep. Sleep is great, yes,

589
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: but so when sperm whales do sleep, it is so

590
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: bizarre they actually sleep. It's I love I love whales.

591
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: I love the ocean. This kind of creeps me out

592
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's weird. It's like swepping in the deep.

593
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: If you could sweep swimming in the deep ocean, just

594
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: be like, oh, it's so beautifulful, And then do you

595
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: see a group of whales sleeping vertically so floating in

596
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: the water in a way that is they look like

597
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: they look like a bunch of whales about to be

598
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: abducted by alien. Yeah, just like they yeah, like they're

599
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: about their like doing a sayance. It's true, it's like

600
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: watching videos of this is the craziest thing I've ever seen,

601
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: at least to me, I think it is. There's probably

602
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: the sea is just so serious and beautiful that I

603
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: want to know more all the time. But like it, yes,

604
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. It always reminds me of I mean,

605
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: obviously a lot of people have seen Finding Email, but

606
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: if they haven't, they probably see some sort of documentary

607
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: about like bombs in the water, being hung by the

608
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: like those chains or like just sitting there. Yeah, like

609
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's nuts. It's just I mean, this is

610
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: definitely a mind you also don't want to set off,

611
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: just in case. But it was just always just really

612
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: cool how they were just able to just kind of

613
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: bob there and they're like their school bus size. They're

614
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: the size of school buses standing up from tail to

615
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: to knows like, like it's just it looks like it's

616
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: just bizarre. It's just bizarre, and they are asleep they're napping,

617
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: so they'll often only nap ten to fifteen minutes at

618
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: a time, although sometimes photographers document them napping for up

619
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: to an hour, which means they probably have almost gotten

620
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: all the sleep they need and they're all right, I'm good,

621
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: all right, let's like, you know, swim for like a

622
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: day and a half. Here we go. But discovering that

623
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: the whales sleep vertically like this and just kind of

624
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: float and bob is actually pretty significant because it was

625
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 1: thought that they only engaged in what is called uni

626
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: hemispheric sleep, which sounds really like crazy, but it's just

627
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: a fancy way of saying only sleeping with half of

628
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: their brain. So you sleep with half of your brain

629
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: and half of your brain is awake, and so this

630
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: is actually something a lot of animals do. So many cetaceans,

631
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: which are whales and dolphins as well as migratory birds,

632
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: engage in una hemispheric sleep, being half asleep, so that

633
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: they can travel long distances while still getting sleep. So basically,

634
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: one half of your brain is awake and the other

635
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: half is asleep. Yeah. I think the only way I

636
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: was able to do that it was road tripping from

637
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: California to Pennsylvania. I was like, I feel like I'm

638
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: half asleep, but I'm definitely awake, because you definitely shouldn't

639
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: be driving if you're half asleep. Also pull over, just

640
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: letting you know. But like, that's how I felt driving

641
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: from California to Pennsylvania. Well, when I was in college

642
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: and I learned I learned about uni hemispheric sleep, I

643
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: was like, could I do this? So I would close

644
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: one like literally, this is like dumb, dumb Katie trying

645
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: to get sleep in college. Like I would close one

646
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: eye and convince myself like, yeah, I've got half my

647
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: brain awake and half my brain asleep, but none of

648
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: my brain was awake. It was all asleep. Oh my god,

649
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: that's out. Yeah, that sounds like a tactic that I

650
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: would dry Like, okay, I'm in my edit ba, how

651
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: can I edit this video while also sleeping at the

652
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: same right right, Just close one eye, get that half

653
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: of your brain arrest, like one half like snoring and

654
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: the other one's like, hey, what's up? What you Okay? Yeah,

655
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm fine. But with these with these sperm whales, because

656
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: they sleep like this, sleep vertically, and they've actually also

657
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: been observed staying asleep while a boat approaches and the

658
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: boat bumps into them, and then they finally well, they

659
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: woke up once the boat actually physically bumped into them.

660
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: Fortunately it wasn't like an incident where the boat hurt

661
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: them or anything, but they but you know, that is

662
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: a big concern with whales. Often they do get injured

663
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: by boats. But this is a case of sort of

664
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: just attle bit of although to be fair, I would

665
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: not want to wake up by having a boat smack

666
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: into your life. Yeah, that sounds awful. The fact that

667
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: they didn't move until the boat was like right over

668
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: them means that they are potentially getting deeper sleep, which

669
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: we didn't think that they got. Like we thought it

670
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, they're always sleeping with half their brains.

671
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: But maybe they are getting deep r e m sleep

672
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: and in these weird positions. For me to be jealous

673
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: about whales awesome, But it's still it's you guys have

674
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: to look at pictures or videos of this. It's just

675
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: there's something that is both it's a it's all inspiring

676
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: in the sense that it's like you think about how

677
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: huge these animals are, and then it's it's a bizarre

678
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: position to see them in just like floating vertically, like

679
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: they're a bunch of like whale zombies, and it's it's

680
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: something that feels it's like it fills me with dread

681
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: but also curiosity joy. That's good too. Yeah. No, it's

682
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like I I love it, and

683
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: it's it scares me in a way that I love it.

684
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I know, That's exactly how I

685
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: describe it. It's like one of those things where like

686
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: this is quite disturbing in a way of like how why,

687
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like, this is the

688
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: coolest thing, Like I just it's like it's like looking

689
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: over like looking down the Grand Canyon, where yeah, that's

690
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: like scary, but also I love it. Yeah. Yeah, that's

691
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: exactly how I would describe it. It's so cool, so cool.

692
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they beat the giraffe for being the

693
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: lightest known sleeper because like, giraffe sleep I think eight

694
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: to nine of the day and whales sleep seven percent

695
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: of the day, And in order to be a sperm whale,

696
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: we would have to sleep by taking only about six

697
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: fifteen minute naps a day, which yeah, that's not no, Okay,

698
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: that that might be a problem because if I'm only yeah,

699
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I can't can't do that. Can't imagine trying to get

700
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: through a work day. Minutes these poor whales trying to

701
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: get through their work day doing whale business, whale business,

702
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, like what meeting, you know, fifteen minutes up,

703
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: everybody naptime, just like do their thing and then someone

704
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: wakes up, Greg, Greg continue, all right, right, such a

705
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: pain in my blowhole? Yeah, no, for real, I can't

706
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: I can't do it. No way, still cool. I can't

707
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: do I can't do these TPS reports and it's just

708
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: papers floating down to their email must be just loaded

709
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: up weeks Like I gotta answer phones all day and

710
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: it's just a phone floating in the ocean, just hanging

711
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: out and just hear it like you can't ring, but

712
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: you can see it shaking and making bubbles. All these

713
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: not all these smales and it's just fish little letters

714
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: tied to them. I love it, or just like a

715
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: little a little shell poach. Like I can't even answer this,

716
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: it's so tiny. How am I supposed to What am

717
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: I supposed to do? Here? God? Sounds awful? Uh? How

718
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: much sleep do you need? Generally? Speaking adult needs seven

719
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: to nine hours of sleep, but there's no exact number

720
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: we should all be aiming for because, weirdly enough, different

721
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: people require different amounts of sleep. While it can be

722
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: determined by environmental factors such as the quality of sleep

723
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: you're getting, you could also have a different internal clock

724
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: from others. Human sleep at night and are active during

725
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: the day generally speaking, or diurnal, and we obey circadian

726
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: rhythms using changes in light and dark and timing to

727
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: guide us when we need to sleep. Sleep wake Homeostasis

728
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: can also be a factor where your body detects how

729
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: long it has been awake and asleep and tries to

730
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: regulate your habits accordingly. But the settings on our internal

731
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: circadian clocks in our sleepway homeostasis sensitivity can vary due

732
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: to your genes. It also varies due to age, which

733
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: is partially why teenagers are such night owls. Speaking of

734
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: night owls, when we return, we're going to take a

735
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: look at some night owl youngsters who are literally owls.

736
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: How do you sleep on your side, on your back,

737
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: curled up in a little ball? How about on your stomach?

738
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Do you toss and turn all night? All of these

739
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: things are normal, and you move a lot during your

740
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: sleep so your body doesn't get stiff in one position.

741
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: But here's a quick sleep tip. If you're lying awake

742
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: staring up at the ceiling, don't count sheep. If you

743
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: can't fall asleep within ten to fifteen minutes, get out

744
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: of bed and do something relaxing like reading, meditation or

745
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: listening to soothing music until you feel sleepy again. You

746
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: don't want to train your body that your bed is

747
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: a place of restlessness, or you'll get in the habit

748
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: of lying on your side awake, or if you want,

749
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: you could be a real night owl and just plank

750
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: your way to a good night's sleep as well. Now discuss.

751
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: So there is an image that keeps going viral. I

752
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: think it first went viral and like twenty eighteen, then

753
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: it went viral in nineteen and now it's gone viral again.

754
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: And it is a baby owl sleeping face down. The

755
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: mood right there for mood, Yeah, this is the song

756
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: of the year. Is the baby owl sleeping face down?

757
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: And so the current description I've seen there's a lot

758
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: of speculation about this image. So the current description is

759
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: that baby owl sleep face down because their heads are

760
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: too heavy for them to tap up while sleeping. And

761
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: I so I've never this is what's interesting to me

762
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: because I've never really seen an owl sleep in this

763
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: particular position. So I was like, I wanted to do

764
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: some research, like is it true, like are we looking

765
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: at a dead owl? Yeah? Is it like a drunk,

766
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: underaged owl for needs to be who's like comes home

767
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: late from the parties. Somebody calls owl and uber, so

768
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: we called the hooper hooper. Yeah, I'll take it. But

769
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: the so the good news is that from what I

770
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: can tell, and this is my this is just my opinion,

771
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not like an owl c s I

772
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: I al c s I um AlSi uh special Owl Unit.

773
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: We gotta take we gotta take down like all of

774
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: the problematic shows about like you know c s I

775
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: and place them with Alissa. I'm fine, let's do it.

776
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Let's do it like owl investigations. I'll get on it. So,

777
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: so the good news is it's probably not dead. I

778
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: think it looks it looks alive to me because okay,

779
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: I'll hallucinate. I will let you know. So this is

780
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: a baby snowy owl and snowy owl chicks nest on

781
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: the ground. So I've seen people saying like, well, why

782
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: would it be sleeping on the ground, Like, wouldn't it

783
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: be in a tree. It's like, no, no, this is

784
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: normal behavior for a baby snowy owl. So they live

785
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: in the tundra in the Arctic region. Their mothers scrape

786
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: out a nest or use an abandoned nest on the

787
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: ground to lay her eggs. So they don't really do

788
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: twigs or any They don't collect things and make a nest.

789
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: The only time you'll find them in a constructed nest

790
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: with like materials is when they've basically rented out a

791
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: nest from like another bird, rented as they're squatting there. Yeah. Right,

792
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: But they will typically just it's called a scrape where

793
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: they they just scrape out an area for the nest

794
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: and they will lay their eggs and she will protect

795
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: this nest very fiercely. They it's actually quite dangerous to

796
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: go up to a snowy owl who is nesting because

797
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: they will attack you fiercely. I'm sorry. I wouldn't even

798
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: close to an owl off it wasn't nothing. Yeah, you know,

799
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: pedwig would peck out. Yeah. I just think it's funny

800
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: when people are like, oh, I wanted owls a pet.

801
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, don't you do not know? Don't

802
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, well, actually I have something to say

803
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: about that later, to about like owl pets. But yeah,

804
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: so snowy owl chicks do appear to sleep laying on

805
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: their tummies, so they can't do it. I can't do it.

806
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen them laying quite as drunkenly as

807
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: this owl. I mean, looks like he just ate though

808
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: or something. Because there's a mouse. There's a there's a

809
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: mouse there, and so like that. There are a few

810
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: clues that I think means this owl is fine. First

811
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: of all, this seems to be in an enclosure, probably

812
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: at a zoo or rescue, and there is a fresh

813
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: dead mouse in the corner. Um, it's unlikely that if

814
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: it was like a dead owl, that they would just

815
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: keep putting mice in there. Yeah. One. And I just

816
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: feel like I'd be weird if they took a picture

817
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: of it, yeah, like like yeah, like, because this looks

818
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: like this doesn't look like someone's home. This looks like, yeah,

819
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: like an organization. Um, you know, I don't absolutely know,

820
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: so if someone has like the deats on this this

821
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: is like an underground like like fight club, a club.

822
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: Damn me, I will keep you anonymous, but yeah, but yeah,

823
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: so and also if you look closely, it looks like

824
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: it's face is in the dirt, but that is not true.

825
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: Actually you can see it's the feathers around its eyes

826
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: are darker and son a little eye and the beak

827
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: which is also dark. So it's actually sleeping chin chin.

828
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't have a chin, but you know, so to speak,

829
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: so to speak, sleeping on its chin. So so that

830
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: is and that is the position that snowy owl chicks

831
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: in the wild do. I don't necessarily see their feet

832
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: split out like that, but I said, they also just

833
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: didn't eat like a bunch of my skill or whatever.

834
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, it's got it's got the it's got the

835
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: mouse sweats. It's trying to sleep. But yeah, so it's

836
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, that is pretty consistent with how baby

837
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: snowy owl chicks sleep in the wild. It's also that

838
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: this photo is taken from the butt sides, Yeah, especially

839
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: awkward taken from the rear. Couldn't even get an attractive

840
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: side of it. Come on, caretaker person, get it together.

841
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: It's good side although it's it's butt is cute, it's

842
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: got a very I think it's cute, but I bet

843
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: you the owl probably didn't appreciate it. It's like, come on,

844
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: delete it, how dare you? But yeah, I do have

845
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: some pictures here of baby snowy owls in the wild

846
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: sleeping on their tummies, so you can see that they're

847
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: kind of sleeping like from the front. You see there

848
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: in the same position with their little heads sort of

849
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: level with the ground, sleeping on their chins. Yeah, I

850
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: love I love the second picture because it reminds me

851
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: my brothers, who definitely sleep on their bellies quite a bit,

852
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: especially when they were little, and they used to be

853
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: so cranky and I would like take pictures, so I

854
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: always thought it was weird. They're just like you know,

855
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, or like like that, and um and oh man,

856
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: it was just really funny. Like I could just see

857
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: it in their face of just like cranky, leave us alone,

858
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what's wrong. I think you guys were short. Yeah,

859
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: that's what it sounded like. Anytime when they were just

860
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: like yelling at me, I was like, I just think

861
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: you're cutey little owlets. Thank you. Also, owl chicks are

862
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: called owlets, which is cute. It's so cute it But

863
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: this is the case for other species of owls as well,

864
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: where the owlets will sleep on their tummies. So even

865
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: baby owls who live in trees, such as the barred owl,

866
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: and they will cling onto the branch with their talents

867
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: and sleep on their stomachs. Oh my god. So adults

868
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: sleep upright, and they also rely on those sharp talents

869
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: to lock into place to keep them secure to the branch.

870
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: But the baby is just kind of like very plank it,

871
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: You know, these these darn kids and their planking every time.

872
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: Now it's happening in the wild. Now, just have you

873
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: spoken to your outlet about flanking and how much it's

874
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: becoming a problem. They're never going to own a house

875
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: this way, oh my god. Now the second, the second

876
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: part of this viral image is the claim that it's

877
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: because their heads are too heavy. And I trust me,

878
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: I dug into this, and I'm not I'm not like

879
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: an owl expert, so I don't really know this offhand,

880
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: and I tried to read up on it, and so

881
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: if you are an owl expert, please get at me

882
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: with this. But from what I could tell it. This

883
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: could be the case. But it's not so much that

884
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: their heads are too heavy. It's just that their neck

885
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: muscles aren't really developed yet, much like the rest of

886
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: their bodies, which are young and weak and sleepy, little

887
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: baby bodies. They can't fly yet, you know, they'res. You know,

888
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: it's like, so their muscles haven't really developed yet, so

889
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: that you know, they want to lie on their tummies. Um,

890
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: But I've also seen pictures of adult owls lying on

891
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: their tummy, so it's not like adults never do it.

892
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: So this is western burrowing owl's found in North America.

893
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: It's a little brown owl and it they burrow into

894
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: the dirt a desert area. Yeah, and this one is

895
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: lying on its tummy in the dirt, legs splayed out.

896
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: It's well, it's clearly it's fully alert, like its eyes

897
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: are open. It's like it's posing, you know, doing a

898
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: sex it's doing a sexy Instagram. It's doing it's gram

899
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: and this root is Instagram and you know what it's, buddy,

900
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: get it. It's a little it's a little it's a

901
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: little fluffy tushy sticking out a little feet splayed out,

902
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: just stretching, but yeah, this, it is. This, it's very cute.

903
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that it sleeps in this position,

904
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: but it's definitely like, excuse me, yeah, it's well, it's

905
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: stretching out, it's having a good times out. Buns out,

906
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, just suns out, buns exactly, let it out, buddy.

907
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: And then this there's another picture of a pet owl

908
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: sleeping on some astro turf. So this looks like it

909
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: might be a Saharan little owl also also known as

910
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Athena noctura. It is a small owl species and it

911
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: is just kind of like bread loafing where it's wine

912
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: ran on it's tummy. And here's where I am a

913
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: buzz kill. As as I loved, I love to be

914
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: a buzz kill. I just love the room, your your

915
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: buzzing high on these cute animal vibes, and just like

916
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: here I am to kill your bus. I just I'm

917
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: not a big fan of keeping owls as pets. I

918
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like if I could have an

919
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: owl as a pet with like no like not worrying

920
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: about the ethics of it and no like in the

921
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: owl was like loved it and could talk and we

922
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: were all magical i'd be great. I understand why people

923
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: want them as pets because they are so cute, they're

924
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: so wonderful, but honestly, they just like they don't really

925
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: make great pets. They and it's like even if they

926
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: like obviously big owls will they are raptors, they are prey,

927
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: they'll they'll they'll up they are they are literally yes, yes, exactly,

928
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: they are literally dinosaurs. And but even the little ones

929
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: who can't like seriously hurt you, it's just not it's

930
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: not fair to them in my opinion. You know, it's

931
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: so most species are not very social outside of family units,

932
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: and they're super active. They're birds of prey. They love

933
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: flying and hunting. So if you like owned one, you

934
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: would basically need to let you know, let them fly

935
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: in a huge area, which I imagine most of the

936
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: people owning them as pets. It's like, you know, you

937
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: keep them in your home house. Yeah, that's just not

938
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, there are so many, there's so many other animals,

939
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, Like, am I like super angry at everyone

940
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: who has one as a pet. No, I mean I

941
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: understand I get it, like they're they're cute, but in

942
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: my opinion, because there are so many other animals that

943
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: make much better pets, like kiddies and doggies. Like, if

944
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: you want an owl as a pet, just get a cat.

945
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 1: They they're the same basic animals, they're the same thing,

946
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: and cats are much more well adapted to being our pets.

947
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: They they Yeah, no, I'm I'm with you on this one,

948
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: because as much as I love watching watching the cute

949
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: videos on YouTube of them in the wild, or even

950
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: people who do have them as pets, it's it's actually

951
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: really funny to watch some of the people who do,

952
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: at least not all of them. Some of them for

953
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: sure will be like I know that you guys love

954
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: watching videos of my owl. They are not pets. Like

955
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: if you don't know anything about birds, especially owls, like

956
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: don't don't have one, don't go out and catch one.

957
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: It's not going to work. They're not it's a it's

958
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: illegal to do that. But I mean, most of the

959
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 1: people that I've watched are people that have other birds,

960
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: and they're either part of some sort of like a

961
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: conversation um conservation, thank you, I can word again, sleep

962
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: four hours part of the conservation conversation, you get it.

963
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: But like the fact that they're they either work with

964
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: these birds for some odd reason, or they're doing something

965
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: they're either a researcher or or it was an injured

966
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: owl that like maybe like the rehabilitating it. Yeah, and

967
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: they're going to give them to or either put them

968
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: back into the wild or give them to a place

969
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: that they that they can continue on. Like most of

970
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: the people I usually watch for is for uh, science

971
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: based only, you know, or again rehab a rehabilitation in

972
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: some way, shape and form. But they always say every

973
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: single time, they're like, do not have these as pets.

974
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: They are not the ones that you would like to

975
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 1: like domesticate. Like, it's just not it's just not a thing.

976
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: If you want one, get get a dog, get a cat,

977
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: you know, or something of that nature. Yeah, why don't

978
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: we conclude food with a very calming subject about one

979
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: of the I think people perceive these as one of

980
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: the laziest animals, and I can't say they're necessarily wrong,

981
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: but it is the snail. So land snails are snails?

982
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Are Interestingly you you mentioned like to me one of

983
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: your favorite animals are OCTOPI yeah, I was like octopy

984
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: question marks, and like, is that the correct term? It's

985
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: actually os. I think it's actually it's actually octopuses, but honestly, whatever,

986
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Like I get the idea when someone says octopi, I

987
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: think technically the it should be it should be octopuses.

988
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying, So why doesn't I know?

989
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: But I always feel back, So that's why I go, octopuses, octopi? Octopus? What? How?

990
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: What is it called? How do you? How do you

991
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: do the thing? Octopus? Sex? Yeah, you get it? Multiple octopus, Like, yes,

992
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: I do. I've always found them very fascinating. One because

993
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm always like, Okay, I'm not gonna get too deep

994
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: into it, so you don't have to put this in

995
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: the podcast. But like I'm always just like I don't

996
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: think that their actual sea creatures. I think they're aliens

997
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: and they're not from here and they're hanging out in

998
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: our oceans to learn. But that's like a whole different

999
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: thing that we can get into another time. But like,

1000
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: I just think that it's really cool of how intelligent

1001
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: they are, how flexible, how they're able to think through

1002
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: puzzles and all it, like it's all it's so cool.

1003
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: It's so freaking cool. Especially did you know that did

1004
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: you know that they are related to snails. No, hell,

1005
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: people work, Yeah, they are. Snails and octopuses are both mollusks. Uh,

1006
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: snails are terrestrial or at least land snails are terrestrial

1007
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: gastropods and octopuses are cephalopods. That makes sense, right, all right?

1008
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: I got that. Yeah, I got you, I got you.

1009
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: But you know they're both. They're both squished animals. Yeah

1010
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: they are. They are related distant, of course, but yeah,

1011
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: it is. It is one of those things where it's like, yeah, actually,

1012
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: snails and octopuses they're they're coins. Everybody about that. Now,

1013
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be at a party and be like,

1014
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: did you don't reme we're distant cousins octopuses and snails.

1015
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: Let me get into it more. So, snails can are

1016
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: just like very excellent nappers if you kind of fudge

1017
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: with the definition of napping. So, land snails can be

1018
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: dormant for long periods of time through hibernation or estivation.

1019
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: So estivation sounds like a fancy, fancy word. It's just hibernation,

1020
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: but during the summer months, like during dry hot so

1021
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: instead of during like cold during summer during hot and

1022
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: dry spells, so I wish. I wish I could sleep

1023
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: when it's hot. No, I had you know, I live

1024
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: in l A. And I had a year where or

1025
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: I had a summer where I did not have air conditioning,

1026
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: super hot, and like basically what I would do to

1027
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: sleep at night was like get up every half hour

1028
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: and then just like step into the shower with my

1029
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: pajamas on and like get cold water and meal and

1030
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: squish back into bed. Oh my god, it's just it's

1031
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: so hot. Yeah, that's that's but that's sort of a

1032
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: similar strategy that these snails do. Is they they need,

1033
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: they really need moisture to survive. So if they are

1034
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: going into a real hot and dry spell, they will

1035
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: seal off their shells with mucus to retain some of

1036
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: that moisture. So basically they close the little doors to

1037
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: their shells, seal them off with mucus, and they are

1038
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: closed for business. Imagine a little like we are clothes sign.

1039
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: I want someone to draw that. That's so cute. First

1040
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: day summer. All right, Well, my guys, that's how I feel.

1041
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: That's I wish I wish we could just like to

1042
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: get through this this time, the pandemic times. I know

1043
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: we can't like there's a lot of important work to

1044
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: be done right now. But it's also part to me

1045
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: that's just like I just want to close down shut

1046
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: shell closed for business, and we can't do that. We've

1047
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: got it. We've got to remain part of our human

1048
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: fabric of society, you know. But there's part of me.

1049
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Speaker 1: There's part of me that wants to snail it up.

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: It sounds like right now, oh man, I need to

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: get myself some Nope, never mind. But they can hibernate

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01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: or estivate for many hours, days, months, and allegedly years.

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Speaker 1: There is a case of a snail called the Ermina desertorum,

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Speaker 1: which is a species of Egyptian land snail, which was

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Speaker 1: collected in eighteen forty six, and they thought the snail

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01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: was dead and they glued it to an index card

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Speaker 1: as a specimen and kept it in a museum, and

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Speaker 1: three years later they revived it, so they know, I

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01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: think they noticed some like movement in it and then

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Speaker 1: they put water on it. So this was documented by

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Speaker 1: science writer Grant Alan, who was like this old timey

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Speaker 1: Canadian dude, and I'm sure he had like but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's but like I I can only imagine him having

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Speaker 1: like a stuffy British accent, So that's how I'm going

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Speaker 1: to read it. But he was Canadian, so uh, this

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01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: is what he wrote. The museum authorities accordingly ordered off

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Speaker 1: Frond a warm bath. Who shall say hereafter that science

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01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: is unfeeling, upon which the grateful snail, waking up at

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01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: the touch of the familiar moisture, put his head cautiously

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01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: out of his shell, walked up. How does snails walk?

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01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: Walked up to the top of the basin and began

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: to take a cursory survey of British institutions with his

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: four eye bearing tentacles. So strange. A recovery from a

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Speaker 1: long torpid condition only quoted by that of the seven

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01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: sleepers of his spee, just deserved an exceptional amount of

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Speaker 1: scientific recognition. Oh no, I can totally see it too.

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Speaker 1: That's the worst. Par He's like, I'm writing this and

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01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be a fun time. Snail has awoken

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01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: from its door. Par I must document this incredible. All

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01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: I hear is Nigel Thornberry just being so excited that

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: it's happening, and he's just like it all out. I

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: love the wild Thornberry's as a kid. That was a

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01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: huge influence in my life. And it's redheaded little girl

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: crazy about animals. John could talk to animals kind of

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01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, super super dorky. Yes, yes, thank you,

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01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: but no, that's exactly what that reminded me of. Just

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: Nigel's just going off and I just think I was

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01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: just looking up the article too, and I'm like, oh,

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01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: I know again adding to my late night reading material.

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: Because this happened in eighteen forty six, it doesn't make

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01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: me like skeptical because like they are all sorts of

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01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: like weird hoaxes back then, or they're like we found

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01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: a dead angel and it's just like this fake skeleton.

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01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: But like so it's like it's hard to know, like

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01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: did this actually happen? Was it an old timey hoax?

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01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: Was it like some old timey intern playing a prank

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: on these stuffy you know, really funny But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I I don't really know. I do think in theory

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: it's possible because snails can hibernate many months and they

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01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: slow down their metabolism. It's it's different from just sleeping.

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: They actually their physiology slows down so that they go

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01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: into the state of like suspended animation, so they if

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01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: they can like seal themselves into a tomb of their

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01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: own mucus. I mean, I guess it is theoretically possible

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Speaker 1: for us to last a few years like that, but

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01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still feel like it could have

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: been a prank by like Ezekiel the intern. I really

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: wanted to be that. I know that it would be

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01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: really great or not like really great to be like

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01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of sad, like, oh it wasn't real, But I

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01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: would also just be like applauded vikil he came up

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01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: with something real good. I have deployed the most the

1113
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: most ingenious of Shenanigan. I love it. Yeah, that's exactly

1114
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: how I would want it to play out, and be

1115
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: like someone needs to give him a statue, please and

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01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: thank you most to Shenanigans. I want it or at

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: least make it to at least make a movie about it.

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01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: I just all I want it engaged in such Tom

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01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: Floury that I am informing you my YouTube. Yes please

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: and thanks Tis, but a bit of Tom Floury, my brother.

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01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: But that is that is it for our talks about us.

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01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: And now I think I'm gonna take a nap. I

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: was actually going to go back right to it. Yeah,

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01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: just get back into it, you know, like sometimes you

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: gotta learn by doing. I'm gonna just I'm gonna be

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01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: like the I'm just gonna be like the sperm whale

1127
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: and just take a nap every fifteen minutes. And it's

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01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: that time, Katie, I gotta call. Yeah, I'm gonna be

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: like the giraffe and put my head on that. But

1130
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: I want it. Well, thank you so much for joining me.

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to plug? Just my social media's

1132
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: a torres eight nine zero. That's a t O R

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01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: R e s eight nine zero. I'm just you know again,

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01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna be talking about animals for the next

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01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: month and a half now because I'm gonna be looking

1136
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: up all this research and bugging Katie and be like

1137
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: going to be so many you don't even understand. Um.

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01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: But like, at the same time, there will be some

1139
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: other projects I can't talk about right at this moment,

1140
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: but there will be things happening sooner hopefully rather than later.

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: We'll see um. But at the same time, just keep

1142
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: track of me there. Like I said, I will just

1143
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: be sharing all of the things, especially auto videos maybe

1144
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: not technically animal but animal crossing videos. Hopefully so much.

1145
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: Friend coach is happening. You got to come to my

1146
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: aland yes, yes, yes, yeah, especially because like I'm on

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01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: the I'm gonna be sad because I'm on the Southern Hemisphere,

1148
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: so I will be able to join the summer swimming,

1149
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: but I will be visiting people to do the summer

1150
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: coun to my island. We will swim together. But yeah,

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01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: definitely doing that kind of stuff. Hopefully going to be,

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: like I said, doing some crazy things in the next

1153
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: month's to come. But yeah, that's pretty much at eight

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01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: to eight nine zer, I'll follow me, hang out with me,

1155
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: maybe play some animal crossing with me because it's my

1156
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: first time playing, so it will be awesome. Yeah, So

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01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for listening. Uh, if you

1158
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: are enjoying the show and you want to leave a rating,

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1160
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: seem like I'm is clicking buttons, I'm just clicking stars.

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01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: It really really helps. And I read each and every review.

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,200
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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much, and I hope you're all staying

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01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: safe and healthy out there. I am so I'm just

1165
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: like honored that people are still listening to the podcast

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01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: through all this craziness, and I uh just thank you

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01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: guys so much. You can find us on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: curious about my Katie thoughts, not really related to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: just you know, Katie thoughts. And as always, I am

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