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Speaker 1: know remember the final score. That game was not close. Now,

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00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: everyone thought this team was better than that version last year,

428
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: and I bought into the hype. Two you're watching this team.

429
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: Obviously their offensive line play has been not good, but

430
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: all I've heard forever is like how well they've recruited,

431
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: how well they've recruited. When you play, I'll never forget

432
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, like his last year at LSU and going

433
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: into the Alabama game, it was like he's gonna go

434
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: off against Alabama. It was obviously LSU Alabama most year

435
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: is a massive game, and I'll never forget watching that

436
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: game and thinking, I don't think Leonard Fournette can gain

437
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: five yards and Alabama treated him like he was me.

438
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: And that's what good teams do against a team that

439
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: is very dependent on one great player. Well, Boise State

440
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: has clearly one of the best running backs in college football.

441
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Who is gonna I've kind of compared him to Darren

442
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: Sproles because he's short and probably end up being a

443
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: second top fifty pick depending on what he runs or whatever.

444
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: But he's an NFL player. That's a type game if

445
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: you're a national championship contender, even if your offensive line

446
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: has issues. And let's face it, Dylan Gabriel is not

447
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: as good as Boon Nicks, so you downgrade at quarterback.

448
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: Even if Dylan Gabriel is a good player like bo

449
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: Nick's top fifteen pick starting in the NFL, Dylan Gabriel

450
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: is not gonna be a top fifteen pick. He's not

451
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: gonna be starting in the NFL. So that's what you

452
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: call it downgrade. You do not let the guy. Listen,

453
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna get his You don't let him go for

454
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: almost two hundred yards at home. If you're a national

455
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: championship team. Now maybe it can change, maybe you can

456
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: get better. Dan Lanny, he's a defensive guy, but right

457
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: now it ain't even close. It ain't even close. To

458
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: let him go for one ninety two against you is embarrassing.

459
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: Even if he's an excellent player, one thing to get

460
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: eighty on you over the course of the game, But

461
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: three touchdowns seventy yard run, I can't take you that

462
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: seriously right now. Relative to the way we talked about

463
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Speaker 1: you coming into year, which was like Final four or

464
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: bust could if it all goes well in National Championship,

465
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: they don't even look remotely close to that right now.

466
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Who would have thought two weeks in USC would be

467
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: way better if they played right now? How would you

468
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: not bet on USC to win that game the way

469
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: Oregon's planned? Are we tired of Colorado? Yet? It's hard

470
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: for me to say yes, because I was glued Week

471
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Speaker 1: one against North Dakota State, and I was glued Saturday

472
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Speaker 1: night against Nebraska. So like, I enjoy watching these games,

473
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: and I'm not necessarily rooting four against them. I just

474
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of want to see what happens. Now, here's what

475
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: I will say, because I saw this clip of Roussillo

476
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: talking on his podcast. Listen off the stats. I mean,

477
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: he's two to nine in his last eleven game. It's ugly,

478
00:26:53,560 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 1: and they got worked Saturday night in Lincoln, Nebraska. Dion

479
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: clearly loves like NFL guys on a staff, which I

480
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: have no problem, like hiring Warren Sapp to coach my

481
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, that's what I'm talking. Pat Shermer, that's a

482
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: fucking embarrassing hire. In that game against Nebraska, and it's

483
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: been like this since Dion has been there. They can't

484
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: block anybody. Yet every single time that they broke the huddle,

485
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: they're going four and five wide. It's like, hey, guys,

486
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: Dion one thing I admire, Like my parents were huge

487
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: supporters of me, but there were levels and there was

488
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: a cutoff point, like the way Dion is with Shador,

489
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't think you could pay my dad ten

490
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: million dollars to get to that level. You know, there

491
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: would be there had to be some humility in there.

492
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: I think Dion looks at Shador like Shador is better

493
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: than Dion, which again he's pretty talented, but they're going

494
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: four and five wide. Like Deon's been around football enough.

495
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: I know he's not the guy calling the plays, but like, hey, Pat,

496
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: you want to throw in an extra offensive lineman or

497
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: a tight end and maybe not spread this thing out

498
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: when we can't block a soul. It was terrible football.

499
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: It was just like listen. It's one thing to lose.

500
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: Nebraska is better than you, okay, but to just like

501
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this over and over. Can you imagine

502
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: what some of the Nebraska coaching staff, what was Matt

503
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Rule thinking, Like, are they really just gonna make it

504
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: this easy? They can't block our guys four on five?

505
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: It's advantage us? What would you do? Would you keep

506
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: just spreading it out? It wasn't fifty to ten at

507
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: one point in time, it was like twenty one nothing, like,

508
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: you're not this college football. Things can change pretty quick

509
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: to me. They're just poorly coached on offense. There are

510
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: a few and maybe it's de On because he wants

511
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: to get Chador all these points, like the point of

512
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: this whole thing is to win. Shador's going to the

513
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: NFL whether he throws for one hundred touchdowns or two touchdowns.

514
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: He can move, he's got a big arm, Like Josh

515
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: Allen didn't do shit in college and went seventh. Are

516
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: you trying to win the game or are we trying

517
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: to do something else? It doesn't quite add up to me.

518
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: It just that was bad, Like to me, out of

519
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: the two years, that was one of the most glaring,

520
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: and if they lose this week to Colorado State, I

521
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: will say I'm out, like I'm not paying attention to

522
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: him anymore, because it just none of it matters. Because

523
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: if they lose this week, which remember they almost lost

524
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: last year to Colorado State at home, they're headed for

525
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: three or four wins. They win this week, maybe they

526
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: can get some stuff together and compete to be six

527
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: and six this week. Zero chance at five hundred is

528
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Texas back. There are several teams that I just kind

529
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: of root against. I would say Ohio State, Notre Dame,

530
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: I would say pretty consistently, and Texas would be one also,

531
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: but again Militia. It's not like I hate these programs

532
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: when they're good. I do enjoy watching them, but I

533
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of I like it when they lose. And Texas

534
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: always been a program like I enjoyed when they were

535
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: really down. They don't determine my happiness or whatever. And

536
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: even against Michigan, I was kind of hoping that, hey,

537
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Michigan MUCKs up this game by about

538
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: four series in my takeaway was one separate from my

539
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Texas agenda. I just kind of thought Quinn yours was

540
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: a lot of hype last year, I remember watching games going, wait,

541
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: people are talking about this guy like a top ten pick.

542
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: The guy I'm watching this year looks fantastic. That game

543
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: he just played against Michigan through three touchdowns but avoiding

544
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: the rush, stepping up in the pocket, keeping plays alive,

545
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: his arm strength, how quick he is to make a decision,

546
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: how fast he is to kind of keep him play

547
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: alive but keep his eyes up he was. I guess

548
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm sold because I watched that. Obviously, their team as

549
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: one of the best squad's money can buy. I think

550
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Texas is a legitimate national championship contender, and I think

551
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: they're back. And in this modern day, when you pay

552
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: to play and you have the most money, you're gonna

553
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: have a shot. Right, when you can pay to play

554
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Google Apple Texas, right, I mean, you're gonna win when

555
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: you have the most money. In a market like this,

556
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: where the most money counts for a lot, it's impossible

557
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: to suck. And I've been very critical of Sark and

558
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I do wonder like when it really gets tough in

559
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: a game against Georgia, in a game against even Alabama,

560
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: I know they look shitit, but a game like that

561
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: in the second or third round of the playoffs. Are

562
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: they tough enough? I don't know. Time will tell. I

563
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: get we're gonna see it this year because they're in

564
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: the SEC. But that was a win, like, yeah, we

565
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: can win the Natty. Last year that win against Alabama

566
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: wasn't was impressive, but their defense sucked. Their defense doesn't

567
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: look like it's this year. Here's the question Notre Dame

568
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: question mark? In what world? This is the stupid part

569
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: about the Top twenty five? Because Notre Dame was a

570
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: highly touted program coming in this year. They can only

571
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: fall so far after I don't know, losing at home

572
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: is a thirty point favorite. In what world? If we're

573
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: going to rank the top twenty five, I play you,

574
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: we're both one to zero. It's a second game of

575
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: the season. I play you at your place and I

576
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: beat you, and you're ranked ahead of me. How does

577
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: that make any sense? Just because I'm a program that

578
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: no one talks about and not a program that anyone

579
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: thinks about when they say the words top twenty five.

580
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: But we played it on the field. I played you

581
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: and I beat you. That's the whole point of this

582
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: is sport. We played four quarters worth a football in

583
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: front of seventy thousand people, and when the score ended

584
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: or when the clock went to double zeros, we had

585
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: more points than you. How is Northern Illinois not ranked

586
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: ahead of Notre Dame? In what world can you lose

587
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: to Northern Illinois, I'd argue and still be a top

588
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: twenty five team. I got no problem putting Northern Illinois

589
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: in there. Notre Dame can't be there, and they definitely

590
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: can't be ahead of Notre Dame on the rankings. And

591
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard I read a long athletic article on him.

592
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: How it was hard. You know, it was weird because

593
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: in spring he was injured and he couldn't practice. He's

594
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: trying to take this leadership role, and he brought the

595
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: boys home and he seems like a great kid, seems

596
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: like a dude that you'd want to be in your

597
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: life as a friend, as a neighbor, as a business partner.

598
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: He can't throw. So when you pay all this money,

599
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: Saban said this a couple weeks ago on college game day,

600
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: you can have all the money in the world, you

601
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: better not pay the wrong guys. And they pay the guy,

602
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: high character guy, big guy can run. He can't throw

603
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: in Notre Dame in twenty twenty four, is not gonna

604
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: have you know, Jerry Judy and Jamison Williams at wide receiver.

605
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: The receivers are always maybe they hit on one, but it's

606
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: gonna be rare. They have some of the best wide

607
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: receivers in the country. Maybe get a tight end in

608
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: a solid running back, but their offensive personnel is always

609
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: gonna be relative to the Ohio States, the Bamas, the LSUS,

610
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: the Georgia's Ole Missus. Texas is not gonna be on

611
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: their level because even with nil there are academic requirements.

612
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: It's just a fact of life. So you better have

613
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback who can complete passes and be pretty accurate.

614
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: And this guy is not. So I get falling in

615
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: love with them once you meet him. He's probably just

616
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: like God, you gotta make plays on the field, and

617
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: he can't pass. I mean, he can't pass, and I

618
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: wanted to root for him, but as a buddy two

619
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago said when they were playing, text saying to

620
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: him and we were texting about the game, and he's

621
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: a high ranking official for a big time NFL team.

622
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: He said, these are the two most over hyped quarterbacks

623
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: in the country. And it ain't close because the hype

624
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: on those two guys, but specifically Riley Leonard because of

625
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: going to Notre Dame is the old Even the Jets,

626
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: no one and I mean no one gets more hype

627
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: than Notre Dame. Nobody, and nobody consistently doesn't live up

628
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: to it. Like after a while, we're just like, yeah,

629
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: USC is not that good, Like they didn't even get hype.

630
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: Hell this year they had no hype. Top twenty five?

631
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: How are they still in the top? How is how

632
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: could you walk into the office if you're Thomas Hammock

633
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: the Northern Illinois coach and go wait, our number were

634
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: ranked below notreed. How's that possible? We literally just played them.

635
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: Now I understand we going into week three, it doesn't

636
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: determine anything, but still like, how can I take a

637
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: top twenty five list seriously? And they all have it?

638
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: If that's the case and the reality is you can't

639
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: Wednesdays on campus, Okay, it's that time for the middle

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Speaker 1: Cough mail bag. You guys know, the drill dms wide

641
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Speaker 1: open at John Middlecoff two f's fire in those dms

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Speaker 1: and get your question answered on the show. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Nicholas, twenty three year old Santa Monica, freshly graduated

644
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: from college. Congrats Nicholas, Welcome to the real world. College

645
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: a lot easier on your mental health, that's for sure.

646
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: I know it's But as a Charger Rams fan, yes

647
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: we exist, I have already seen the culture change Harboz brought.

648
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: I get that it's early to talk about coaching changes

649
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: for some teams, but for teams that have been dysfunctional

650
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: for years Bears Giants Carolina, such as the Chargers, who

651
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: were cycling through head coaches embarrassing themselves week in week out.

652
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: True at Homie, Why don't those teams go and chase

653
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Vrabel this offseason? I know reports came out that teams

654
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to hire him because he's big and seems intimidating,

655
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: but come on, do owners really care about that when

656
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: they don't win? Are they scared to take the big swing?

657
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: Wouldn't he provide a floor of competitive plus watchable physical

658
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: football every week as long as he has a competent quarterback.

659
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: It's clear to me that Dable Eberflusala are on the

660
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: way out. And I'm ninety nine percent sure Canalis ain't it. Secondly,

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00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: how long? Well, here's the thing with Brabel. I think

662
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: he's got Chicago written all over him. I don't think

663
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: it necessarily was owners were intimidated. I'd have to go

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Speaker 1: google that report again. I think general managers. And speaking

665
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: of Harbaugh, Harbaugh intimidated a lot of people in the building.

666
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: And Trent Balke, who a lot of people talk shit

667
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: about my personal interactions. He's always been cool to me,

668
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: except the first time I met him back in like

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00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: eight nine when I was at President of State. But

670
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: then ever since, once I worked in the league and

671
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: was doing media stuff in the Bay, he was cool

672
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: to me. So I people don't like him my interactions

673
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: with him, but one like him and Harbaugh's relationship started

674
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: fracturing because Jim was the alpha and it got weird.

675
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: And Jim to me, is a much different guy right now.

676
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: Like I heard him on with Coward yesterday. You watch

677
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: these videos, he's loosened up dramatically. An age does that,

678
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: like you just don't have the same fire in terms

679
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: of getting angry over everything that you did fifteen years ago.

680
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: As you age. It doesn't mean your competitive fire diminishes.

681
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: It just means, like I don't need to be so

682
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: angry about this. I don't need to approach this this way.

683
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: He seems like he's this is gonna sound weird, but

684
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: matured a lot, and I think you're seeing a new

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Speaker 1: version of Jim Harbaugh Vrabel. You know, if you watch

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Ryan Poles, I didn't realize this college roommates

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Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan. He was guard tackle in college. I'm

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00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: not sure he played one of those. He's a I mean,

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00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: he was a fringe like NFL practice squad. He's a

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Speaker 1: big dude. He's not gonna be intimidated by Vrabel. Two

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Speaker 1: football guys in the trenches. No, Vrabel's technically a stand

692
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Speaker 1: up linebacker, but he's looks like a defensive lineman, which

693
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Speaker 1: he kind of was a hybrid version of that, which

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Speaker 1: he would be in this modern day f ball because

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to stand up. But you know

696
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So I think Vrabel and the Bears

697
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: are a match made in heaven. Like I just think

698
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Speaker 1: that the culture of the toughness, getting a guy that

699
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Speaker 1: can just corral Caleb if he prafleus, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: they don't win nine games, even if they went nine

701
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Speaker 1: to eight and they don't get the seven seed, I

702
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Speaker 1: think he would be in trouble. Secondly, how long do

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Speaker 1: you think it will take for the Rams and the

704
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Speaker 1: Chargers to establish themselves in LA and have a real

705
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: home field advantage. Every time I watch either of them

706
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Speaker 1: at home, it's always fifty percent road fans. It's out

707
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: of my control, but I wish it were different. I

708
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: understand the Lakers and Dodgers are light years ahead of them,

709
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Speaker 1: but the Rams won it all a few years ago

710
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: and the Chargers have Harball. I've been saying this about

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Speaker 1: our fans situation that i've So you're a hybrid, like

712
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: I didn't quite realize. I guess I read it. You

713
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: root for them both pretty genius. It's like more than

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00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: likely you're gonna have a good weekend and then when

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00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: they both win, you're gonna be on fire. That I

716
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't know you could really do that. Maybe you're just

717
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: an LA guy, so you just root for the LA squad,

718
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Like do you root for the Lakers and the Clippers?

719
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: You root for the Angels and the Dodgers. That seems

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00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: a little weird to me. Where I come from Northern California,

721
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: there's a direct line. You root for the Giants or

722
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: the A's and you root for the Niners of the Raiders.

723
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Now just happened that the pie chart the Giants and

724
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers have the heavy majority of fans.

725
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: But I think when you look at and the Raiders

726
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: are a good example, why did the Niners their fan

727
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: base in terms of numbers outdraw the Raiders at pretty

728
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: high proportions in northern California. Well, the Raiders left, So

729
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders left. I don't have the year off the

730
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: top of my head, but when they were gone in

731
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: the eighties and they came back in the mid nineties,

732
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: you know what happened. Bill Walsh, Joe Montana, and Steve

733
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: Young showed up and they built a dynasty. So when

734
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: they came back, it's like you got generations of new fans.

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00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: People are born, young kids are becoming. It's an easy

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Speaker 1: team to root for. Well, the Rams were gone for

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: a long period of time, and what happened during that

738
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: period of time. Niners are cool. So I think the

739
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: Niners have such a big presence in southern California, and

740
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Speaker 1: like we said, the Raiders literally played down there as well,

741
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: so their fan base I think it's very, very difficult,

742
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: and I think Southern California is nicer than Northern California.

743
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: Like there's no there's no Newport Beach in northern California.

744
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: There's no Manhattan Beach. San Diego is fucking beautiful. But

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00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: the Chargers like had Where I went to school at

746
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: cal Poly, we were Northern California and southern California, Like

747
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: that's where the majority of people came, and then the

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00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: ad kids all came from the Central Valley. But I

749
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: knew people. I spent a lot of time with, had

750
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Speaker 1: dudes in my fraternity that were from San Diego and

751
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: love the Chargers, like watching those games like people would

752
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, like people would in the Bay Area with

753
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: the Niners, like people would in Dallas with the Cowboys.

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00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: So anytime you do constant movement, you know why the Eagles,

755
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: the Bears, the Cowboys, the Niners, like all these teams

756
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: they don't move around. So when you're constantly moving I

757
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: saw with the Raiders, it creates it's weird. It's hard

758
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: for people to get behind. I've seen it with the

759
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: A's just get absolutely lapped by the Giants. It's like

760
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: you're always threatening to leave like that gets old. And

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00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: I know the Rams and the Chargers are there for

762
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: the long haul now, but like the Chargers were San

763
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Diego's team, like that was a pretty big distinction. And

764
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: then the Rams when they had success, I don't know,

765
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: and won a Super Bowl, they were in Saint Louis,

766
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: so like, I know, you guys recently won. But I

767
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: went to the game week seventeen, three weeks before the

768
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: NFC Camponship game where the Rams beat the Niners. It

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00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: felt like seventy to thirty, maybe eighty to twenty. And

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Speaker 1: I just think it's difficult to overcome that the Lakers

771
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: have been in Los Angeles for a long long time now.

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00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: The Brooklyn Dodgers moved I don't know, seventy five eighty

773
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: years ago. So time fan bases generations of people, it

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00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: takes a while. It does not happen overnight. It just

775
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: it's to become entrenched in the culture, like what's entrenched

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Speaker 1: in the culture in LA. From a sports standpoint, I

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Speaker 1: would say, obviously the Dodgers and the Lakers and USC

778
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: football and UCLA basketball have always been a really big deal.

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00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: Why's that they've fucking been there forever? I mean, they

780
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: have a lot of history, you have generations of people.

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00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: They didn't have to worry. Well, actually, for the next

782
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: twenty years, they're gonna pay usc is, gonna play in

783
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Speaker 1: the SEC. But they're not just gonna play in the SEC.

784
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna move to Mississippi. That wouldn't work. So I

785
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: think it's part of that. Jim Harbaugh is a force

786
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: of nature. He will do everything humanly possible to make

787
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: you guys really relevant. Obviously, Sean McVay is a superstar,

788
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: and I just I think it's hard to overcome the

789
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, transient nature of the franchises. I just

790
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: think it turns a lot of people off teams. I've

791
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: rooted for my entire life, like San Franco Giants. I

792
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: don't know they've They've moved stadiums, but they've never moved

793
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: within a ten mile radius. The forty nine Ers moved stadiums,

794
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: but my entire life from the day I was born

795
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: to a dam, I'm sitting here play in the Bay

796
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: Area my entire life. The Sacramento Kings. I guess the

797
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Kings might have moved in like eighty six, but have

798
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: been a Sacramento so it's like teams that matters, that

799
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: has a huge impact on people. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: an element that's an element that's kind of hard to overcome.

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00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: For the mail bag, do you think the sign meaning

802
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: of Antonio Pierce was the right move for the Raiders?

803
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: Not going for it on fourth and one was a

804
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: head scratcher. I think Mark was in a really tough

805
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: spot because I've said this and I'll reiterate it again,

806
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: him and Dean Spanos up until Harbaugh. Even though you know,

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Speaker 1: Mark was looked at like this dysfunctional was face and

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00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: most people like call him a loser because he looks

809
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: weird and he's never had a job. He said that,

810
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: not me, but I will say this twice. Mark Davis

811
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: really really tried to hit a huge home run. He

812
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: fired Jack del Rio on the field and immediately and

813
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: because he was hiring John Gruden, he gave him ten

814
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: years one hundred million dollars like that was a pretty

815
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: big deal. Obviously, that unraveled on him, and then he

816
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: has a situation with Bisacia that listen, you probably could

817
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: have done that. But then he had the opportunity to

818
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: hire Josh McDaniels, which was a catastrophic disaster, only coaching

819
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: NFL history to not make it through year two twice

820
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: two separate spots. But I like the forty nine ers

821
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: wanted Josh McDaniels the year they hired Kyle Shanahan. The

822
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts wanted Josh McDaniels. So now we know no

823
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Speaker 1: one will ever hire him to be their head coach again.

824
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: But he had been in high demand for the last

825
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: six seven years, and Mark through I mean, rumors are

826
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Speaker 1: he gave him like six year contract worth ten million

827
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. He's paying him sixty million dollars. So

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Speaker 1: two coaches in like a four year, five year span

829
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Speaker 1: he divvied out over one hundred and sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He was willing to pay guys. And then I think

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Speaker 1: he finds himself in this position. His best player, Max Crosby,

832
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: loves the guy, and Davonte, his second best player, loves

833
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: the guy as well. I think it was an easy one.

834
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: He just needed to take a deep breath. Who else

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Speaker 1: what were his other options? Mike Vrabel a guy like

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Speaker 1: that that could even take the job. I'll defend Mark

837
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Speaker 1: on this one. I think he was in a tough spot, though,

838
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: I would bet against this working unless they get the

839
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: number one overall pick and the next quarterback they draft

840
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: is high end player. Uh. What do you think about

841
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: this proposed rule change? Like many others, my least favorite

842
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: play in football is the Tiki tack defensive holding wipe

843
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: out a third and long automatic first down. I added

844
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: that part. I was thinking about how to fix this

845
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: so that's not extremely punitive, but also doesn't allow the

846
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: defense to take advantage in mug receivers on obvious passing downs.

847
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Here's my solution, get rid of the auto first down

848
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: and instead make it a spot foul with a minimum

849
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: of five yards and with a redo of the down.

850
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Example third and seventeen. So this offense has had a

851
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: rough little stretch here on this series holding flag thrown

852
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: eight yards past the line of scrimmage. It now becomes

853
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: third and nine instead of first and ten. I've always believed,

854
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you bring this up, defensive holding should

855
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: be a spot foul. I've even gone as far as

856
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: like pass interference. I like the college rule. I don't

857
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: like you getting fifty yards. I really don't like. To me,

858
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: it should just be an automatic fifteen yards. Like if

859
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: a ball is not caught and I get it, some

860
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: guys get tackled and I would have no problem. I

861
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: mean zero. I'm behind you. I've been saying for a decade.

862
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: Spot foul defensive holding and fifteen yards for pass interference.

863
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: I just I hate these penalties, and I get some

864
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: are egregious, right, And like you said, not all defensive

865
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: holdings are the same. I honestly think most of them

866
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: lean on the side of tiki tak. Clearly, there are

867
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: some pass interferences that are no brainers, But is there

868
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: anything worse than a quarterback making a throw on like

869
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: third and twelve. It has no chance. I mean, Calvin

870
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: Johnson meets Michael Jordan in his prime, couldn't have touched

871
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: the ball, and the defender's not looking runs into him

872
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: and you get sixty yards or even thirty eight yards.

873
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know if that should be rewarded.

874
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm all for if you take a guy out a penalty,

875
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: but fifteen yards to me just universally twenty four to

876
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: seven three sixty five college in pro Like I get

877
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: the two foot rule in the pros, it should be

878
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: more difficult in college I'm not holding Alabama star player

879
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: right now on offense is a seventeen year old guy

880
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: if he can't get two feet down all the time,

881
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: seventeen years old. But I watched Cooper Cup thirty years old,

882
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: made however much money in the NFL Super Bowl. Champ like,

883
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: hold him to a high regard so he gets two

884
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: feet down, which was an incredible catch on Sunday night early,

885
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: I would say early potential catch of the year. I'm

886
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: a sucker for a ball all thrown into the sideline

887
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: and the Chris Carter for those of you that are

888
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: too young to get that reference, he's not even on

889
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: TV anymore. But in the nineties, nobody, and I mean

890
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: it includes Jerry, Rice Michael, Irvin, Brandy Moss. Nobody could

891
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: work a sideline better than Chris Carter. He could have

892
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: those two feet in. It was a thing of beauty.

893
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: And that's what Cooper Cup did. But I hear you

894
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: John this from Justin. I thought it was justin Tuck.

895
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: It was justin Tack. It's like, oh man, big tug listens.

896
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Why do nearly all analysts talk about offense today in

897
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in general, like they're better than ten years ago.

898
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: In my opinion, the average quarterback now is much worse

899
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: than the twenty tens. Scoring is actually down the past

900
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: couple of years, and other than Alan and Mahomes, no

901
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: one really compares to an era where we had Manning, Brady, Briey, Rogers, Ben,

902
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: Philip Eli, Matt Ryan. Those guys threw four thousand yards

903
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: and thirty touchdowns in sixteen games, and most of them

904
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: reached five and forty touchdowns at some point in their career.

905
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: Just judging by the eye test, Mahomes and now and

906
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: seem light years beyond everyone else right now, totally agree.

907
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean one million. Do you think Lamar Jackson would

908
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: have had the same success twenty five years ago? You

909
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: have to be accurate your quarterbacks getting killed and when

910
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: you are running is a huge part of your game.

911
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: What do you think these players would have done to him? Now?

912
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: He's hard to hit, but when they were allowed to

913
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: break you in half, it would have been much harder

914
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: to be that confident as a runner. You had to

915
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: kind of pick your spots. Michael Vick got his leg

916
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: shattered in a preseason game. I was there, infillated with

917
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: Michael Vick. He broke ribs and punctured Spleens all that

918
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: he was getting crushed. I mean, and he's one of

919
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: the greatest athletes in the history of the league. So

920
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: that's my issue with Gardner Minshew is last year, who

921
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: are they playing the Steelers. This is a bad Steeler loss.

922
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: I think they were rolling out Trubisky and Minshew threw

923
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: a ball and I forget the DB's name, but he

924
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: got helmet to helmet and he got kicked out of

925
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: the game or whatever, and it's like, that is such

926
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: a shitty pass in the history of the sport. Up

927
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: until five years ago, that is called a hospital ball.

928
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: Hospital balls don't exist anymore because no one through hitting

929
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: for the most part ever goes to the hospital. The

930
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: only guys we've seen go to the hospital in a

931
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 1: recent memory were like Alex when his leg got twisted,

932
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: demor Hamlin when his heart stopped right. But people used

933
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: to I remember being at Eagles game where Austin Khley

934
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: got I thought he was dead on the field. I

935
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: wasn't at the game, but when I was with the

936
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Eagle I think we were playing in Atlanta, DeShawn Jackson

937
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: might have been killed on the field. And if you

938
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: put those balls into harm or what people would get injured.

939
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: It's why when Tom Brady talks about it, he's like,

940
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: people think he's being a hater. No, he's just saying

941
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: like this is not really allowed. It's like when Anthony

942
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Edwards the other day, within the last couple of weeks,

943
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: said that, like, none of the guys in the nineties

944
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: could play today, and everyone that plays today would be

945
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: the best player back then. It's like, what are you

946
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: talking about. The NBA's never been less skilled. There's never

947
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: been better athletes, but they've never been less skilled. And

948
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: back then you weren't just allowed to drive to the

949
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: basket every play cause you know what, you would get

950
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: a forearm to the teeth. And it sounds like old

951
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: guy acting tough, but like that was legitimately sports. Just

952
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: YouTube some of the brawls in baseball. You throw in

953
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: some a couple of times, like we're throwing fists at

954
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: each other's face. Now there's so much money, the world

955
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: change and it's obviously not the same. But playing quarterback

956
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: now one has never been easier. And the totality of it,

957
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: I think you could argue has never We just assume,

958
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: for example, and I'm guilty of this that Caleb Bownicks

959
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: and Jaden Daniels will be able to play in the league.

960
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: There's a decent chance that two out of the three

961
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: of them will not have their fifth year option picked up.

962
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: And it's never been easier to play quarterback, So what

963
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: would they have looked like twenty years ago? Now? To me,

964
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: a huge part of the game is obviously in the shotgun,

965
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: guys are really comfortable, but when you're under center, there

966
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: are some pretty easy plays because play action is such

967
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: a big part of it that if you could teams

968
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: that can run the ball, and good teams have always

969
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: been able to run the ball, play action under center

970
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: gives you a lot of layups. Well, now everyone's just

971
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: for the most part out of shit. Someone hit me up

972
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: the other day is like, why is Kirk Cousins out

973
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: of the shotgun NonStop? Well, could be partly because he

974
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: the Achilles. He can't move nearly as good as he

975
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 1: wants good, and he never moved that great. Rogers loved

976
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: the shotgun always. It's why when the floor got there

977
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: and wanted him to play kind of more of the

978
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: Shanahan offense, and he kind of pushed back. Then Eventually

979
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: they kind of met in the middle and he won

980
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: a couple MVPs. But I completely agree like Gardner, Minshew

981
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: could not start if this was nineteen ninety nine, and

982
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: if he could, he'd last three games. It doesn't mean

983
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: that every quarterback was good, but it was way harder

984
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: to play, way harder to play because you couldn't throw

985
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: balls all over the map. Guys would get killed and

986
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: you'd get yanked. Now, I do think the top guys

987
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: could all play. Like I'm not saying Lamar couldn't play.

988
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: He would play, but like when you look at Vic

989
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: who had a stronger arm than him, he got hurt

990
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot, you know, And I just think

991
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to play. It's easier to play a running style.

992
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: If you told me Jayden Daniels was doing what he

993
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: just did week one in nineteen ninety six, I'd be like,

994
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna make it a month.

995
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: They weren't throwing flags that there was no sliding in

996
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: these off limits. So I think we have to acknowledge

997
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: the game is dramatically changed. Like I don't want to

998
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: see quarterbacks get hurt, so I don't really push back

999
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: against it, but I think you're right. Lifelong Steelers fan

1000
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: nice Win Sunday, the defense looked pretty good, I'd say excellent,

1001
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: But even with the new offensive coordinator and quarterback Justin Fields,

1002
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: the offense looked the same it has dating back to

1003
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: when Ben's arm gave out. I like Tomlin, but is

1004
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: this defensive coaching mentality holding us back or what change

1005
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: do you need to happen to give a shot to

1006
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: contend in the AFC. I like this player, I've been

1007
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: following him since high school, but I think he's closer

1008
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: to just a guy than a high end player. And

1009
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: it's not all his fault. I think your offensive line

1010
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: has been a little hit or missed, but if you

1011
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: had a do over, you would not have taken Naji

1012
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: Harris in the first round. And every I watched the

1013
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: game today, I was on the StairMaster, no big deal,

1014
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 1: just trying to shed a few pounds. And he gets

1015
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: a lot of carries, you know, and he has his

1016
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: entire career when he's when he's healthy for you guys,

1017
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: and to me, he's just kind of he's fine. Like

1018
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: I watched Jordan Mason, I go, yeah, he's a better player.

1019
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade Jordan Mason, an undrafted free agent, for

1020
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: Naji Harris. So that to me, if you had a

1021
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: high end player there, I do think your offense would

1022
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: just look a lot better. Like to me, he's as

1023
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: the kid say mid I thought Field's actually played pretty well.

1024
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: Pickens is obviously really good. Friar Mouth is a really

1025
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: good player. I just think when I think back of

1026
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: some of the better Pittsburgh team Tames, I think you

1027
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: guys had good running backs. I mean, the best offenses

1028
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: were when Ben was in this latter years of his prime.

1029
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: With AB you had Leveon Bell, who was a stud.

1030
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: I remember Rashad Minnen Hall was a really good player

1031
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Like you guys have always

1032
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: had really good running backs. I watch Naji, I just

1033
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: go eh again, I like him. Antioch California played Pittsburgh

1034
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: high h followed his career since Alabama. But that was

1035
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: a big time overdraft and they've just kind of stuck

1036
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: it out. I have a potential fix to the new

1037
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: kickoff that I think you should consider. Well. I mean,

1038
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't get to consider any It's not my call

1039
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: to keep kickers from booting it through the back of

1040
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: the end zone. They should treat the boundary in the

1041
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: back of the end zone the same as they treat

1042
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: the sidelines on kickoffs. If the kick lands between twenty

1043
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: and the goal, it should still have to be returned,

1044
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: and there should be no penalty if it hits the

1045
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: white out of the back of the end zone after rolling.

1046
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: But if the ball lands in the end zone and

1047
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: does not stop before the boundary, they should place the

1048
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: ball at the forty Don't hate that. It doesn't seem

1049
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: just based on reporting, that they plan on doing anything

1050
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: drastic to this rule. But I think it's pretty clear.

1051
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of Andy's press conference the

1052
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: other day would have been Monday. They're like, why did

1053
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: you just kick it through the end zone. He's like, ah, yeah,

1054
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: we just felt that was the percentages not worth the risk.

1055
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: He's like, then at home and at the office watching

1056
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: games on Sunday, saw a couple of big returns. So yeah,

1057
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: I think we feel pretty good about that decision. And

1058
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: I think more and more and more you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: I mean, the forty nine ers are putting Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 1: back there. You would have to be on cocaine to

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Speaker 1: kick him the ball that was the most aggressive, and

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. It's like, guys, Christian McCaffrey's

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Speaker 1: injured right now and who knows his staff us. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's worth Debo getting in some weird collision

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01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: on this. Just throw a rookie back there. And I'm

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Speaker 1: pro doing that in like a playoff game or you know,

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Speaker 1: to win the division, or even a divisional game the

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01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: last kick of the game. But I also think one

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: thing's clear if you do throw a Tyreek a Debo

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Speaker 1: back there. In general, to me, that's not oh, kick

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Speaker 1: it out of bounce. But like you said, if you

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Speaker 1: weren't allowed to kick it out of bounds, then it

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01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: would change. But I don't think that's necessarily going to

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Speaker 1: change anytime soon. Love the pod. This from Adam. Congrats

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Speaker 1: on the recent engagement. Appreciate it was. Listen to your

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01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: take on the overtime rules, and I feel like there's

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01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: an easy solution to both teams to get a chance.

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: If the first team that gets the ball scores a touchdown,

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: they have the choice to either kick the extra point

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: or go for two. If they kick the extra point,

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01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: the second team must go for two. If they also

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01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: score a touchdown on their possession, as they would either

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Speaker 1: win or lose on the two point try. If the

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01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: first team scores and chooses to go for two and fails,

1085
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: the second team has to score a touchdown and kick

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01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: an extra point to win the game. If both teams

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01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: score a touchdown and a two point on their first

1088
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: overtime possession, the next team to score wins. At some

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01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: point a defense has to make a stop. Would make

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Speaker 1: for legendary decisions and moments. Listen, I think the overtime rule,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know, on average on a sixteen game season,

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01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: how many overtime games you see? It's probably not as

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: many as I think you would guess if I have

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01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: no clue, I haven't looked it up. If I was

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Speaker 1: taking an educated guess over the last ten years, on average,

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01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: how many overtime games a year, I'd pick well under ten.

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01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: I'd probably go six or seven. Maybe I'm crazy. That's

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: what it feels like to meet. There just aren't that many.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not against what you just said. This is

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 1: from Marco. What's the deal with Zach Taylor? Despite leading

1101
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: the Bangers are Super Bowl, no one seems to talk

1102
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: about him. Ever, the team's uninspiring performance in Week one

1103
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: raises concerns about whether he had the team prepared to compete.

1104
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it raises concerns. I mean, we witnessed it.

1105
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: He did not that they scored ten points at home

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01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: against the New England Patriots while their quarterback threw for

1107
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one yards. Red flag. If you're

1108
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: coach that can't get the team fired up for the season.

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about him, Like I don't know

1110
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: him personally. I've just followed his career in sincey. I

1111
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: think anytime that kind of out of the blue you

1112
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: make a Super Bowl and they were winning late in

1113
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl, it buys you a lot of equity

1114
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: with the owner, especially you're an offensive coach. Burrow's has

1115
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: one of the biggest contracts in the league. But I

1116
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I would say, what if he won like

1117
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: seven games this year. I don't quite know what his

1118
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: defining characteristic is because I wouldn't call him some genius

1119
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Maybe this is fair, maybe it's not. I

1120
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: felt like when I watched them play really well, it's

1121
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: just like Burrow throwing go routes and post routes to

1122
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: their sweet receivers. I mean, I could call those. He

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01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the defense. I give him

1124
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: credit for the lou amar Amaruno higher because that was

1125
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: this guy. They knew each other from Miami. But yeah,

1126
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say there are some legitimate questions

1127
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: out there with this guy. And if Burrow is a

1128
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: shell of himself this year, it could be a long

1129
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: freaking season for them. But say this, if Zach Taylor's fired,

1130
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: let's say they go well under five hundred fired we

1131
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: at Black Monday, is he getting hired? I would say,

1132
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: no question for the pod. If the Patriots keep winning

1133
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: but Jakobe keeps playing mediocre, bare minimum, what does that

1134
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: mean for Drake may I think ideally they didn't want

1135
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: to plan. Now, are the Patriots gonna keep winning? Let's

1136
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 1: let's just fire up. I don't even know. I haven't

1137
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: even looked at the schedule this week. Really beside a

1138
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: couple of games, who do the old New England Patriots

1139
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: play Week one? Week two? The Patriots play Seattle? I

1140
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: think that would be a little more difficult. I don't know,

1141
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: if you can throw for one hundred and twenty one

1142
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: yards and beat Seattle because Kenneth Walker, Lockett, DK Jackson Smith,

1143
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: I would expect Seattle to win. I haven't even looked

1144
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: at the line. My guests would be Seattle's favored by

1145
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: four or five on the road. Maybe it's three and

1146
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: a half four, but kind of like Seattle on that spot. Actually,

1147
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: I have to look at the line. Let's let's bring

1148
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: up my old friends at DraftKings here. Seattle's a three

1149
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. I think that's an ott

1150
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: O hammer for me. Do you believe Doug Peterson is

1151
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: on the hot seat? He threw Ryan Nielsen under the

1152
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: bus after the loss of their Dolphins, only threw the

1153
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: ball seven times in the second half, despite with success

1154
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: in the first half. He went for it on fourth

1155
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: down on their own thirty, which I think is fair

1156
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: to say is the most egregious call. His team looked

1157
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: completely clueless on offense and special teams as well. What

1158
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 1: happened to him? He looked like a bad head coach

1159
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: for roughly ten weeks in a row. Now, I was

1160
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Speaker 1: listening to I think like a Bill Simmons podcast before

1161
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: the season. Do you know that he's only had one

1162
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: winning season. I'm saying that out loud. It doesn't even

1163
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: sound true. Maybe it was one ten win season. Bringing

1164
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: up his coaching resume. Obviously the year he won the

1165
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they were really good, but he has a eurostats.

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson twenty sixteen, seven and nine, next year, Super

1167
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: Bowl year thirteen and three wins, super Bowl nine and seven,

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01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: nine and seven, four and eleven obviously fired, takes the

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01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: year off, comes back in twenty two, nine and eight.

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Speaker 1: That was the year that they beat the Chargers on

1171
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: that crazy game with Brandon Staley. Last year nine and eight,

1172
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: and this year obviously awful loss. So I think it's

1173
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: fair to assume four and eleven outlier year twenty twenty

1174
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: COVID not holding that against him. Thirteen and three Super

1175
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: Bowl clearly an outlier year. But if you're gonna have

1176
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: an outlier year, beating Belichick in the Super Bowl is

1177
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: an all time for Super Bowl in the history of

1178
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I think it's fair to assume that Doug

1179
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: Peterson is exactly who you think he is. Nine and seven,

1180
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: nine and seven, nine and eight, nine and eight, like,

1181
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 1: that's him. He is the ultimate nine and eight coach

1182
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: who's like more likable. I know him, but like than

1183
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: like Jason Garrett, who I think fallen fell under the

1184
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: same thing but never won a Super Bowl? So are

1185
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: you just cool with always being nine wins? But I

1186
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: think the day and age, like when you look at

1187
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: the coaches that can win like twelve thirteen, like Andy

1188
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: Kyle McVeigh, John Harbaugh, I would say Dan Campbell this year.

1189
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Speaker 1: I would not put Doug in that. So would he

1190
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: get fired for going nine and eight? I don't know.

1191
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: We talked about it on the podcast like earlier. I

1192
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: do think that's one to keep an eye on for

1193
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: old William Belichick. Assuming that Trevor Lawrence show something this

1194
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: year because they're gonna be cowboys, don't come open. Would

1195
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: he rather have Trevor Lawrence? Would he rather have? You know?

1196
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: If Sirianni to me McCarthy, if he makes the playoffs,

1197
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: probably's getting a contract extension or Sirianni better do some

1198
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: serious stuff or he could get fired. You know who

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: would Bill like mor Jalen Hurts or Trevor Lawrence? What

1200
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: division would he like to play in more? That's why

1201
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: the Giants don't make that much sense. But keep the

1202
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: questions coming, baby, We'll keep answering. Thanks for doing it Peace.

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Speaker 1: The volume