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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and it's just us, just.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely lots and lots of guests, lots of good stuff

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Speaker 3: going on, and uh, well you know we're here for

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Speaker 3: the combine, and we now know, uh, the top three

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks are not going to throw right here at the combine. Uh,

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Speaker 3: but some of the other guys are. Uh so you

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Speaker 3: get to see some of those. That's the quarterbacks always

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Speaker 3: drive the There's a lot more to see. Uh. Guys

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Speaker 3: like like Marvin Harrison is not going to do any

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Speaker 3: workouts here. He's going to do it all at Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But some of these other guys are going to run

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Speaker 3: and uh and do some you know a lot of the.

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Speaker 2: Workouts and stuff.

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Speaker 3: I just you know, when when you start to get

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Speaker 3: into this can into this part of the season, this

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Speaker 3: off part of the off season. Uh, you'll hear guys

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Speaker 3: he's rising up the board, that guy rising up the board.

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Speaker 3: This doesn't do that for this, This puts them on

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Speaker 3: the radar of the media, right. People need to understand that.

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Speaker 2: I also think the last couple of weeks, when there's

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Speaker 2: all the scouts in the building and they're talking, I

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Speaker 2: think some things leak out a little bit more too,

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Speaker 2: so the media the quote insiders ketchup, shefters of the

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Speaker 2: world get some more more stuff thrown their way, and

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Speaker 2: it trickles out, some of which isn't true. Some of

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Speaker 2: it are just smoke screens, and it is lying season

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Speaker 2: and all those things as well. So up until that point, plus,

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Speaker 2: the coaches hadn't been involved. You know, if you're insiders

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Speaker 2: with a coach or an O line coach, he hasn't

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Speaker 2: even seen these guys. So, you know, bull season, they're

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Speaker 2: not even in that mix. So I do think now

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Speaker 2: that we're all you know, all the people, the decision

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Speaker 2: makers are all in the same city, all in the

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Speaker 2: same vicinity. Things do leak, you know, there are some

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Speaker 2: folk screens, of course, But I think it's not all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden that the Steelers just found out about

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Speaker 2: this guy that had never heard of. I mean they've

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Speaker 2: been in the school, they've been, they've been, you know,

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Speaker 2: scouting him all along. People change on boards, though, I

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Speaker 2: mean that definitely happened, I think.

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Speaker 3: And and those changes come because of what this place

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Speaker 3: was initially came came front of this, the interviews and

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Speaker 2: I'd say it's usually negative, right, yeah, right, if you

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Speaker 2: give the kid the benefit of the dow wealth, he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: I like him. In the second round, Well, my doctor

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Speaker 2: the fifth or later or he's off my board. Well

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Speaker 2: then somebody moved up. He's a one contract.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to get a second contract out of

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Speaker 2: And on the day three guy that Maurice Hurst was

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Speaker 2: this guy a couple of years ago. He gets here.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even know anything wrong with him. And he

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Speaker 2: proude you so much. Some of those things pop up.

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Speaker 2: Or I didn't love of sitting down chatting with this kid.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna bring him in for a visit.

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Speaker 2: I thought about it. Let's go another directionally have so

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Speaker 2: many visits. What you don't hear is when people come

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Speaker 3: Yeaheah, those ones you're not telling anybody about it, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Or he's great out of I mean he's been practicing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, that's where you get yourself into trouble

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Speaker 3: by by checking off more bo with this stuff. So

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Speaker 3: you have to I think you go into this with

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Speaker 3: where you're saying, Okay, we can't give the guy extra

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't, can't give him the credit twice.

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Speaker 3: Don't give him credit twice for what you already thought

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Speaker 2: Stick with your original assessment.

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Speaker 3: Now, maybe again, maybe somebody who goes out and shows

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean change the direction stuff, explosion stuff.

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Speaker 2: doesn't the tape add up to what he did here?

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's a better athlete now, or maybe he's a

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Speaker 2: we always say, guys are allowed to get better. I

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Speaker 2: want to report from all of you the day before

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Speaker 2: the combine ends. If everybody you're in charge of that's

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Speaker 3: But when we go to our final meetings and you

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Speaker 3: write your final report, I'm gonna print this old one

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Speaker 3: out and we're gonna put them next to each.

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Speaker 2: Other, and let's just remember what we thought before. If

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Speaker 2: know why. Tell me why, and hey, you can sell me,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I misread it. I watched the

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Speaker 2: want to get it right. But I wonder, is report

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If we just ignored all

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Speaker 2: jezz I just wondered too.

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Speaker 3: Like So the the Big Twelve this year, I don't

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Speaker 2: The Big Twelve is doing its own pro day for

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Speaker 2: the whole for the whole league. The league.

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Speaker 3: They're trying it out this year, so they're gonna have that.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have all the big twelve teams in one place.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember where it's at.

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Speaker 2: It might be in ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're gonna have all their all their players

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Speaker 3: come in and they're all gonna work out and do everything.

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Speaker 2: It's like a three or four day long process in summers.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a good idea and other respects, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna lose some of the like is for example,

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Speaker 3: is Mike Tomlin gonna be able to take guys to

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Speaker 3: dinner like he normally would? Are they gonna do medicals?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I have a lot of questions. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Gonna be so they're not gonna be I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: not gonna do combine drills exactly. It's not a it's

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Speaker 2: not a mirror image of what we see here. It's

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Speaker 2: more like Oklahoma and Oklahoma States Pro Day, yeah, rolled

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Speaker 2: into one. Yeah. I mean I think they'll get good attendance.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think it'll be highly attended, thirty two teams

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Speaker 3: this pro day for the Big twelve and.

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Speaker 2: Pick a school.

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Speaker 3: Florida State's also having theirs, especially if the pro day

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Speaker 3: for the Alabama the whole weekend. Yea, you know it's

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Speaker 3: not just one day, It's going to be multiple.

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Speaker 2: Days or Michigan's pro day? Is that okay? That same weekend?

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just curious. It's not that it matters to

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Speaker 3: I think they did this in conjunction with the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I just kind of try to test it out a

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Speaker 2: Each school brings their top twenty guys. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I would also think the other leagues want to be

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Speaker 2: guys that aren't combine invites aren't seniable invites, you know,

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Speaker 2: any All Star game invites. I don't know, it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's always been regional combines, right, but there

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Speaker 2: for the really down the line guys. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess it's a decent experiment. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What you lose out on is some of those times,

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Speaker 3: like some of these schools, like if I'm if I'm

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Speaker 3: yeah bring in yeah, right, And so I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they're going to allow that at the big twelve

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Speaker 3: pro day. So I think Pitt's had Ducaine kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, right, Like no one's gonna go to yours,

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Speaker 3: they'll come to ours. We'll do just you know, instead

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Speaker 2: But I'm also wondering kind of a seniorble environment. I mean,

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Speaker 2: coach Tomlin's the best example is he mulling around on

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Speaker 2: because not everyone's gonna be busy doing drills the whole time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what I mean, It's something new.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, you know. I just we'll see how it

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Speaker 2: I'd be curious if you see after the fact when scouts,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of leak it like, well, that's a

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Speaker 2: great idea. Everyone should do it, yeah, or wait a

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Speaker 2: lot of flaws. If we could get that fixed, great.

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Speaker 3: Because now what we're seeing is that the top prospects

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Speaker 3: aren't working out here anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, they want to wait to do it to pro

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Speaker 2: day because it's a more controlled environment. They control the environment.

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Speaker 2: They slept in their own they weren't, you know, bod podded.

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Speaker 2: But if it's at the big twelve, everybody's you know.

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Speaker 3: You lose some of that. You lose some of that,

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Speaker 3: so I guess it's a little more familiar.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe do some things here and you don't do

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Speaker 2: You come in here looking great in your shorts and underwear,

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Speaker 3: People thought you're two light, so you come in here,

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Speaker 2: Not going to run. Yeah, but he doesn't run shockingly enough. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he's back down the one hundred and

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Speaker 3: Well, and the other thing with the NIL stuff. Now

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Speaker 3: Now, some of them at least have had money. They

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Speaker 2: Like, oooh, I'm loaded. I'm doing well right, set for life.

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Speaker 3: An interesting draft this year with some of the positions

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it does really well. Yeah. We had

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you get twenty pretty quick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be the the interesting thing about this draft.

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Speaker 2: Back, maybe a wide receiver, maybe.

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Speaker 3: want to do. You know, one thing we haven't talked

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Speaker 3: to see how he works out is to Vandre sweat

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Speaker 2: Talk about guys that don't weigh in and yeah, all

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Speaker 3: I want to see a what he weighs in at,

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Speaker 3: because he's listed at let's see here, what do they live?

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Speaker 3: He's big on what he's listed at. But while you

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Speaker 3: look for that, if you go to senior bulldog har

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Speaker 3: right now, six four, three hundred and sixty two pounds, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna bet he doesn't show up here at three

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Speaker 2: You're saying less. I think he comes in less than that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see if he's like three fifty,

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Speaker 2: But I think he does. I mean, that's the first

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Speaker 2: I know, he was a good football player three and

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Speaker 2: there sixty two pounds If that's what he really that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to. You know, he's the only

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. So was he three to eighty?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I mean I'm sure he was

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Speaker 3: The Georgia guys the last couple of years, Jordan Davis

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Speaker 3: They were great in college, but they were never full

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Speaker 2: No show us their ten best plays even in the NFL. Wow. Great, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now they start going hurry up. Yeah right, all right,

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Speaker 2: He's a non existent player. I mean, that's what those

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Speaker 3: Because if Devandre Sweat were there in the second round.

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Speaker 2: I'd be very tempted.

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Speaker 3: Take him and you put him, make him the nose,

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Speaker 3: kick Keanu Benton out to defensive end. Now he gets

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, and he would not have to

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Speaker 2: be a great influence on him, right, Him and Benton

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Speaker 2: could line up next to each other. Him and Hayward

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Speaker 3: He's got enough pass rush Ju said, I don't I

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Speaker 2: I think he's a better pass rusher than Jordan Davis was. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean you'll see swims and you'll see rips, and

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Speaker 3: Is is he really three hundred and sixty two pounds?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And because that worries me, is he going? Is

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Speaker 2: you'd you want to see his body type and he's

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Speaker 3: He's gonna go into bodpod. They're gonna break all those

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Speaker 3: And what kind of kid is he? You know, what's

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Speaker 2: You know, like in our recruiting time, we had some

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Speaker 2: you do like you've been eating, or you look a

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Speaker 2: the questions. But if you can Harness thirty plays a

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Speaker 2: that's easily worth a mid second round pick. Yeah, easily.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, I that's the one guy and

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, that one would he would interest me.

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Speaker 2: I could see. I mean, you want to be We

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Speaker 2: So I like them.

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Speaker 3: I think that's going to be interesting with him the

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, he didn't weigh in at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jordan Davis has combine numbers will blow your

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Speaker 2: isn't there for him. He's not playing regular snaps with

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Speaker 2: the Eagles, and it's unfair to say Sweat's the same guy.

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Speaker 2: They're not, you know, But I bet Sweat doesn't test

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Speaker 2: And he also played more snaps than Davis did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Georgia was winning by a million and he

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Speaker 2: had three I mean not the Texas isn't talented. He's

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Speaker 2: Georgia had Carter and as a backup. You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So little things like that that I'm interested in

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Speaker 3: obviously too. You can't trust the heights and weights that

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Speaker 3: I mean the quarterbacks are you know, well they listened

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Speaker 3: him at six two. He's really he's really five to eleven,

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Speaker 3: you know, or this guy was.

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Speaker 2: It was not too far off, right, I mean you

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Speaker 3: Like I'm working on I could, I'll put that. I'm

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Speaker 2: In high school. He's listed to six to two. He's

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Speaker 2: not six too. Yeah, yeah, now that's how he's never

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Speaker 3: Don't trust a program ever ever. Yeah, I get that

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Speaker 3: don't remeasure you and put new weights in every year.

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Speaker 3: He and arm length and hand size don't change. Those

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Speaker 3: that's where the differences come. Yeah, body type and all

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Speaker 2: So you got to get to know the young man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think sweat's a great example, we haven't

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Speaker 2: a few deeds coming into the draft, those dudes don't

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Speaker 2: present themselves all that often, that would.

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Speaker 3: Be changes things. Yeah, that changes things dramatically. I think

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 3: We are live at the scouting Combine here in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: here on the Fox Sports Pittsburgh and Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Will be here taking you through to the four o'clock

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Speaker 3: hour and then we'll call it a day. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back again starting tomorrow, same thing, nine a m. To

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Speaker 3: four pm, same cast.

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Speaker 2: Of characters as well, exact same Slade. Yeah, tagging in.

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Speaker 2: We're like, we're like the Lucha doors here, tagging in

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Speaker 2: and out. Yeah, kind of overlapping.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I did a little work with the

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Speaker 3: the Blitz folks today and you know a little bit

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Speaker 3: over the cross pollination. Yeah, a little cross pollination. I

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Speaker 3: like absolutely. Uh So we're talking about, uh this draft

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Speaker 3: and and and everything, and you know when I when

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Speaker 3: I look at the different positions here and we were

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Speaker 3: talking about this in the previous segment of what line

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Speaker 3: what where the Steelers needs a line and we're just

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Speaker 3: talking about defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Not a good defensive tackle draft. It really isn't. There's

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Speaker 2: a couple intriguing guys. Yeah, I mean, I like the

461
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Speaker 2: Clemson dude whatever they there's a couple, you know, I

462
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Speaker 2: mean Robinson from Missouri. But these guys aren't going to

463
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Speaker 2: be cheap. They're not going to be values. You're not

464
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Speaker 2: getting them the fifth sixth round. Yeah, I mean, we

465
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Speaker 2: can maybe uncover some more names, and this athletic testing

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Speaker 2: will help decipher some as well. You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you get a multiple piece of clay

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Speaker 3: that doesn't have to play a ton right off the bat,

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Speaker 3: that would be sort of interesting.

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Speaker 2: Considering the age and where the D line is at.

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Speaker 2: But it's not a great group. I'm talking defense tackle types. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I think you know when you when you look at this,

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Speaker 3: you know some of the guys who are going to

475
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Speaker 3: be taken early, the Jers on Newton's or the Murphy

476
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Speaker 3: from from Texas six to one.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're not even Steeler style. Yeah right. I

478
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Speaker 2: mean maybe they come in taller than what they're listed at,

479
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Speaker 2: but I doubt it. But they're not going to be

480
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Speaker 2: the Steelers version. There's a better chance they come in shorter. Yeah,

481
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Speaker 2: they're not gonna be six three, might be six four.

482
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: So do you punt on D line unless the right

483
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Speaker 2: guy happens to fall to you? Do you go spend

484
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Speaker 2: some money there? Do you try to get a high

485
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Speaker 2: quality year out of Hayward and step forward from Benton

486
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Speaker 2: and hope you don't get too banged up and have

487
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Speaker 2: some depth and that's your first round pick a year ago?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it's not a position

489
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Speaker 2: you wanna be light at. But what the options aren't great?

490
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Speaker 2: They aren't.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we've seen the Steelers in the last

492
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Speaker 3: few years take some guys in those middle rounds. You know,

493
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Speaker 3: but what you're asking them to do versus what their

494
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Speaker 3: colleges asked them to do, it doesn't always align. It

495
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Speaker 3: doesn't always align, you know, with Bent, and it did

496
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Speaker 3: because Wisconsin runs a similar style of defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he's a home run story. He's a

498
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Speaker 2: success story. Yeah. And a lot of those guys take

499
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Speaker 2: a little bit of time to understand where blocking angles

500
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Speaker 2: are coming from hand placement. One thing I always know,

501
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Speaker 2: especially to recruiting level, was the super talented d tackles

502
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Speaker 2: probably have to do less in terms of technique than

503
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Speaker 2: any other position. Yeah, because they grab a little kid

504
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Speaker 2: in front of them and throw them away, throw you

505
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Speaker 2: right out of the bar if you If you want

506
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Speaker 2: to see some of that, folks, go Google or look

507
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Speaker 2: on YouTube for Stefan two at high school highlights. Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's playing Class A football in Georgia and

509
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Speaker 3: he's just throwing guys out like he's a bouncer in

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Speaker 3: the bar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's big brother, little brother stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of those guys don't develop technique, and

514
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Speaker 2: you need technique at this level. You're not going to

515
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Speaker 2: win at the line of scrimmage. Against full grown you know,

516
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Speaker 2: guards and centers that understand the leverage and the schemes

517
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Speaker 2: without you know, a lot of technique works. So even

518
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Speaker 2: a sweat or an agla wonco Again, I'm just butchering

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Speaker 2: his name. Would they help you right away a aurorro Okay? Yeah? Yeah,

520
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Speaker 2: I mean they might. Or halfway through the season, are

521
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Speaker 2: they starting to hit their stride? They might? You know,

522
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Speaker 2: you don't know, you know.

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Speaker 3: I had that conversation with Montsrevius Adams last year. I

524
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Speaker 3: mean he montrevious Adams was was a five star recruit,

525
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Speaker 3: his choice, his choice of schools where he won to go.

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Speaker 3: He ends up going to Auburn. And he said, you

527
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Speaker 3: know I got by on just I was more athletic

528
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Speaker 3: than the guy in front of me, and I could

529
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Speaker 3: just you know, beat him. I didn't have to worry

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Speaker 3: about tech. Well, now he's reached that point where he

531
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Speaker 3: understands the technique, what's being asked of him. That's why

532
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: he's a better football player now. Yeah, And we brought

533
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Speaker 3: up him and Watts quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: I thought both of them had highly successful seasons, got

535
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Speaker 2: more out of them than you paid for him financially.

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Speaker 2: You could bring them both back. I mean you're only

537
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Speaker 2: going to keep seven at most. I mean Cam's not

538
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Speaker 2: going to where Benton's not going anywhere. I mean you

539
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Speaker 2: get to seven pretty quick. So if you're going to

540
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Speaker 2: take one, I don't think it's just a seventh round flyer, right,

541
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's he needs to be somebody

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Speaker 2: that's going to make the team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it needs to be to Vaudree sweat in the

544
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Speaker 3: second half. Yeah, like that if he's still there, which

545
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Speaker 3: I would be very interested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, it you know, that position is one

548
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Speaker 3: and I don't Next year I don't either. I just

549
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: keep track of the current one. Maybe next year's really

550
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 3: deep in defensive tackles. I have no idea, and it's

551
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: very subject to change. I mean, quarterback is the one

552
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Speaker 3: position you can kind of look ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's good to know. It's a piece

554
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: of information, but it can't change your opinion of what

555
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: you do this year too much.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it used to be like a young one

558
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: to learn from Cam.

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Speaker 3: That absolutely, I mean that's that's more of the added

560
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: value of what Cam brings to your team is passing

561
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Speaker 3: on the Steeler.

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Speaker 2: Way, right, And you're also a little old on that

563
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: side of the ball, another young guy in the mix

564
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: as opposed to you know, free agents or second third

565
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: contract guys. It could pay off long. Yeah, I mean,

566
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: don't want to get weak there.

567
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Speaker 3: The interesting thing is we taught We opened the show

568
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Speaker 3: talking about, you know, the Ravens with Matt A Bouquet.

569
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Speaker 3: Who was what was he a third? Maybe here's a

570
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Speaker 3: day two pick. I think he was a third. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 3: I think he was a third. He really didn't blow

572
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Speaker 3: up until this year.

573
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Speaker 2: Such a good We got talking and sidetracked, but when

574
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: Max was talking about him, I thought, what a great

575
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: example he is of a guy that is a project.

576
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: You know, people don't hate hearing the word project. Well,

577
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: sometimes project is a little bit, a little bit more,

578
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more whoa lookout, you know, and just

579
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: so coincided with having to pay him. That doesn't mean

580
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: he's lazy and couldn't have blown on earlier. You knew

581
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Speaker 2: you had a long investment.

582
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Speaker 3: But again, he was probably so much better than on

583
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: the college offensive lineman he was in front of. He

584
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: didn't have to learn that technique. Now he knows the

585
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 3: technique and how to get guys thirteen sacks and dollarslair.

586
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: They can't let him go right right right? I mean

587
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: he's worth that. He looked to me, Look, he looks

588
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: like a hit. I would pay him my first priority.

589
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Speaker 2: Of I bring him up because after two seasons people.

590
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Speaker 3: Are ready to give up on de Marvin Leal good point,

591
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: you know, and you know he's a high pedigree guy. Hih,

592
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Speaker 3: pedigree guy. I don't know that we certainly haven't seen

593
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Speaker 3: the best of him. If there were flashes in his

594
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Speaker 3: rookie season, yeah, I think, you know, maybe he took

595
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: a slight step backwards last year to part of the

596
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: pause was Benton was there as well? Yeah, and again

597
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: I thought Watt and Adams were very trustworthy veterans, knew

598
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: their job, and Benton was the flat out better player

599
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: of the young guys. So louder Milk and especially the

600
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: Owl are to I was saying to no fault of

601
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: their own, well partially their fault. Are now at a

602
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: career crossroads. I mean that's just how this works.

603
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: You know that you better put up now live in

604
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: Loudermolk came in the league one year before him, so

605
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: is you know, they're not even guaranteed to make the team.

606
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: But they could be the stars of camp too. You know,

607
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: they get a lot of attention, you know, a lot

608
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: of action, a lot of reps.

609
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, so that that's Yeah, we tend to try

610
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: to write the stories on these guys quickly.

611
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Everything. That's just everything's got to be now, now, now,

612
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: now now. Yeah, and that's not always the way that

613
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: it works. I mean, even lew if he could just

614
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: be a third and long interior pass rusher that has value.

615
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: If he's super fresh and you bring in a hockey line,

616
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Speaker 2: you know, pull out of Benton or whomever. It's played

617
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: a lot down, you know, five ten plays in a row,

618
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: it's third and six, third and eight bringing le Al

619
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Speaker 2: and you're stunting him with TJ and doing other stuff

620
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: like that, and itself would have value.

621
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Speaker 1: You know.

622
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's his role. I don't know, but he

623
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: needs they need to figure it out. He needs to

624
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 2: figure it out soon because two years have gone by

625
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: and he hasn't played a lot of snaps. Yeah.

626
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: So you know, I and I to me, you know,

627
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: I look at what happened with Gino Smith. Yeah, couldn't

628
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: play a lick. Hey, I was on that boat too.

629
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 3: I mean I'd seen enough of him in New York

630
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: did pretty shot. He was pretty shot. He goes to

631
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: Seattle and different guy.

632
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: Different guy. I mean, even Adams is a great example, like.

633
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: Trevius Adams, like he's bouncing around the league, he's on

634
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: practice squads.

635
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: Then he gets it, Yeah, clicks and understand how important

636
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: technique is or whatever. The D line is really fascinating

637
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: to me. Ogunjobi to me, is a good not great player.

638
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: Seems to be better when he plays less snaps Like

639
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: I don't. He seem not to be wars out, but

640
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: less is better with him in my opinion, thirty snaps

641
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: is better than forty. Yeah, yeah, the quality per snap

642
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: is better when it's thirty ish. But he's not cheap.

643
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: And there's only six or seven making the team. You know,

644
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's a slam dunk going to

645
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: run it back with him. But he's not bad either.

646
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: He's valuable. It's not like he's terrible, No, not at all.

647
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: He has a real role. I would hope Benton goes

648
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: past him this year. Yeah, you know, and I think

649
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: he was on that pace. If you could add another

650
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: one to be the next Benton, that's really attractive. But

651
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: not at the expense of a corner or center or

652
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: you know, something that you can't live with. Yeah, the

653
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: tackle is probably my foggiest position to project. Yeah, I

654
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: mean I just to me again, I look at it

655
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: with this draft.

656
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: They have to come out of this with a cornerback,

657
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: whether that's in the first round, whether that's in the

658
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: second round, whether it's in the third round. I don't

659
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: know that I'm going to be interested as much in

660
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: a fourth round cornerback.

661
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: No.

662
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: I think it needs to be a guy. I think

663
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: it needs to be a guy in the first two

664
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: days of the draft. Yeah.

665
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: And if you don't get that guy, you better have

666
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: signed somebody in free agency. And that's not going to

667
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: be cheap.

668
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: No. I mean, I think they better come out of

669
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: the draft with four, at least three defensive backs from

670
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: free agency and the draft, probably in the top four rounds. Yeah.

671
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: And you know you do the the draft notes, the

672
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: pre draft notes that you put out.

673
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: Uh, the Steelers, what last four last four first round

674
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: draft picks have all been on an offense, correct.

675
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean first four picks. First. Claypool is one

676
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: of those.

677
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, first pick first, he was the second Yeah, because

678
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: before that it was like nine years in a row,

679
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 3: nine years in a row.

680
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Defense.

681
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: Well, now your defense is getting a little long in

682
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: the tooth, right. Your offense is super young, Yes, I

683
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 3: mean they have some reals. You get to start flipping

684
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: that a little bit this year.

685
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they're second youngest offense in the league,

686
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: behind only Green Bay in terms of who played what

687
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: snaps in twenty twenty three. One of the oldest defenses.

688
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: There's about five that were older. And Patrick Peterson is

689
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: your leading snap guy and he's an older dude. I mean,

690
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: he may not play a stap next year. He might

691
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: play fifty, he might play all again, who knows. I

692
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: don't know what his story is either, but that skews

693
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: it a little bit. And as you mentioned, you start

694
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: drafting your first pick overall offense time and time again,

695
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: it's pretty hard to have a youth movement on defense.

696
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean, even if Benton and Porter played every snap, right,

697
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: you got to counteract the Haywards and Peterson's et cetera.

698
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: You know, I want to get too old too fast.

699
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: There, No, And again that's where the expense comes into

700
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: play as well. Here, a lot of people can play

701
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: well the Steelers have one of the most expensive defenses

702
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: in the league.

703
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 2: They do, they should be number one. That's not how

704
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: it works. Not say it works. I mean it also

705
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 2: depends how you define most expensive defense. Is it your

706
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: cap hit that day is a guaranteed money? I mean,

707
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: is it?

708
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: And you have Watton, Hayward and Mika You want to

709
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: pay those guys. Yeah, they're gonna They're gonna eat up

710
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: a large portion of that. You don't have anybody on

711
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: offense that offsets those contracts.

712
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: No, I mean, there's no rule you have to be

713
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: fifteenth on offense fifteen on the defense either, right, I mean,

714
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: you just win.

715
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: That's the idea is to build a winning team. And

716
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: right now you've a chief quarterback that makes your offense cheap.

717
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

718
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I know we love the centers in this draft,

719
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: but I keep coming back to a veteran fifty year center.

720
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: Spend some money in some age on that side of

721
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: the ball. That might allow me to draft sweat you

722
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because I'm not out of the

723
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: center market or something along those lines, you know, get

724
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: you younger and cheaper on that side.

725
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think this year's this year's draft for

726
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: the Steelers will be more defensive minded in the first

727
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: two days as opposed to offensive mind. I definitely see

728
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: defensive backs, maybe detackle. We've talked a lot about maybe

729
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: a linebacker, maybe a linebacker, maybe a safety, who knows. Yeah, yeah,

730
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: I just think that's where you go. I'd be blown

731
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: away if one of their first three picks was not

732
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: a defensive back. It could be two yeah yeah, or

733
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: if you include the fourth round, it definitely could be

734
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: two yeah. I mean, I just think that's the way.

735
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: I mean, the way it bounces out. And oftentimes, you know,

736
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: if they have seven picks, four will be on offense,

737
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: three will be on defense, or four will be on

738
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: defense and three will be on offense. I just think

739
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: the way it works out this year is I think

740
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: you're the majority. It's it's four or five picks on defense.

741
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Tend to agree. I mean, I think they will draft

742
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: in offensive lineman. Yeah. I think they'll probably sign an

743
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Third receiver is going to be maybe a Westbrook,

744
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: a Kine or something like that that we've talked about,

745
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: or a third fourth round pick is my hunch. I

746
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: think they're done a tight end. I think they've done it.

747
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: Running back and quarter right knows, So that leaves more

748
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: spots on defense, especially in the secondary, which again lines

749
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: up well with this draft exactly. And that's a whole goal.

750
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what you use these next couple

751
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: weeks for, is to really play your cards right in

752
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: the draft. Yeah, set your set your board, set your

753
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: set your plan, and play. Yeah, take advantage of what

754
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: they're giving you.

755
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, because as soon as you get out of here,

756
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: you get basically two weeks before free agency starts, and.

757
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: Then the world starts moving pretty quick, and then things

758
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: start coming along pretty quick. And yeah, yeah, like safety

759
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: is a position to me that probably better addressed in

760
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 2: free agency. Yeah, you know, I'd love to get younger

761
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: on defense, but there's a lot of safeties. I like,

762
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: it's not a great safety draft. But that doesn't mean

763
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: the fourth rounder you wouldn't mind, right, I.

764
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: Think, you know, ideally you find those guys in free agency,

765
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: and the Steelers have always done a really good job

766
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: of this. That guy who's coming off of his first contract,

767
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: who's still twenty five years old. Yeah, and you're going

768
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: to get that full second contract out of them. There's

769
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: a lot of them. I mean, there's a lot of them,

770
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: especially the safety position that shouldn't be super expensive. A

771
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: handful of them haven't made big money yet. You know,

772
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: they're fifty six round picks that are coming into their

773
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: own signed to a two to three year deal something

774
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: along those lines. And I mentioned I've been doing a

775
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: lot more cap stuff lately. The Steelers have less guaranteed

776
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: money committed going forward than any team in the leak.

777
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: They're thirty two in contracts that are guaranteed money. You know,

778
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: like Deshaun Watson's getting sixty four million guaranteed.

779
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: This year, whether he plays another down in the league

780
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: or not. Right, that's that's sixty four millions, way more

781
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: than the Steelers have committed to their entire roster going forward,

782
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: you know. So they're going to have a lot of

783
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: freedom with contracts coming out. Yeah.

784
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so we're going to get to another break. He

785
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: is Dean Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to

786
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: the Drive here live from Indianapolis. We are here for

787
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: the scouting combine. A lot of the general managers and

788
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: head coaches took to the podium today.

789
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Of course, the Steelers.

790
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: Missed out on that that stuff today with Omar cons

791
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: having a personal issue and Mike Tomlin never talks here,

792
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: so he'll he'll talk in a few weeks at the

793
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: owners meetings, so we will be there for that.

794
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: That'll that'll be fun.

795
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, So a lot of little news

796
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: and nuggets that came out from from the different podium speeches,

797
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: but I have to catch up on those. I don't

798
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: know what everyone's been talking about. Yah, I've been on

799
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: the air too much. We've been talking about but we're

800
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: gonna get to a break. We'll be back with more

801
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: here on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh right after.

802
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: This NFL combine.

803
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: These Steelers Nation Radio, welcome back. I am Dale Lulli.

804
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williams and we are live at

805
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: the scouting combine here in Indianapolis on the Steelers Nation

806
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.

807
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: How about that? How about that?

808
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: Uh?

809
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: And I mentioned as some of those guys that spoke

810
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: earlier today on the podiums and the Vikings head coach

811
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell.

812
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: It's Kevin O'Connell, right, yeah, yeah, I'm right.

813
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: He said that he believes Kirk Cousins wants to remain

814
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: a Viking, okay, and they want to try to make

815
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: that happen.

816
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I understand that. I mean again, this is lying season.

817
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean the snippets I heard this morning, which I

818
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: don't put any credence in whatsoever, is justin Jefferson could

819
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: be had for a ransom. The Vikes are already talking

820
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: to New England about moving up to three. They've been.

821
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: They're an interesting organization because they've really straddled the fence

822
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: over the last two or three years of rebuilding and

823
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: trying to win now, which is really really hard to do,

824
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: and with some success, but then Cousins gets hurt and

825
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I think O'Connell's a really good coach.

826
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: I would have a really hard time deciding what to

827
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: do if I was that organization. You want to kind

828
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: of go young, don't spend thirty million on the old quarterback,

829
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: and try to get up to three or six, seven,

830
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: eight whatever. I'm not saying you should ever trade Jefferson,

831
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: but go young or try to win North. I don't

832
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: know what they should think.

833
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: It's a different discussion if they were in the AFC

834
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: versus the NFC.

835
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: It's definitely more appealing because in the NFC with Kirk Cousins,

836
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: they're in the mix. They're in the mix. Yeah.

837
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: Now maybe they're not going to be for a year

838
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: or two, but they're not going to be the favorite,

839
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: Whereas if they were in the AFC, they might look

840
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: at it and say, well, we got eight other nine

841
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: other teams that we get to climb over top of here.

842
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: We need to think bigger, We need to rebuild bigger. Yeah,

843
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: I mean their infrastructure isn't great. I mean they have linemen,

844
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: it's pretty decent. They have pass catchers, and with Cousins,

845
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: it should be a pretty good offense. I mean their

846
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: coach Flores did a great job with the defense. It

847
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: wasn't super talented. I don't know what they'll do. And

848
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: if your cousins, would you rather take that routine or

849
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: would you rather go to Atlanta? Or maybe having in

850
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: New England's not real attractive. But there's a couple spots

851
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 2: you could see him be interested in. But that's probably

852
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: your best chance to win if your cousins, Yeah, I

853
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: think so.

854
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: And you know you're established there, you've been there a

855
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: few years now. You know you're the guy, you're the guy,

856
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 3: and the injury clouds things too. They know more about

857
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: his injury anybody else does. That's important. Maybe his market's

858
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: not that hot right now.

859
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: I just don't see him going anywhere. I don't really. Yeah.

860
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Raiders general manager Tom Tilesco he shut down trade

861
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: speculation on DeVante Adams said he's a Raider. We're not

862
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: trading them. I get that, but I don't think they're

863
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 3: even close to competing.

864
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: Like I think trading Adams is the move, you know,

865
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: like the opposite of the Deontay Johnson move. We just

866
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: had the conversation. We just had trade them while you

867
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: still can, because I don't think he's the difference from

868
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: you winning or not. I don't know what their path

869
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: through a quarterback is. More picks would give you more

870
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: pass I'm not saying they should tank, but I think

871
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: they should build for the future in a big way.

872
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: There's not many building blocks on that team besides Adams

873
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: and Crosby. Yeah.

874
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: You know, to me, though, I think you know, there's

875
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: still a relatively new team in a new city. They're

876
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: trying to establish something in that new city. You know,

877
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: if if you think back to the Steeler game, there

878
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: last year, and really every visiting team comes in there

879
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: and takes over that stadium because it's a destination. You

880
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: need somebody that you can hang your head on. I

881
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: mean that was to me, that was the reason why

882
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: they went out and signed Antonio Brown when they did.

883
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, sure, yeah. I mean I make the mistake

884
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: too much of thinking how's the best way to win

885
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: as opposed to how's the best way for this business

886
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: to run in my new city and all those type

887
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: of things where ownership has balance.

888
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: If they don't have Davante Adams other than Max Crosby,

889
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: who they putting on the signs outside the building, yeah right,

890
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: I mean it's they're gonna make people long year walk

891
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: away from the casino or walk away from the biodome

892
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: or whatever it's called out there and come to a game.

893
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: But I'd rather have a first and third round pick

894
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: than DeVante Adams right now if I'm that.

895
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: Team with a biodome to pull it upond. I mean,

896
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: he's just Adams is going to be the appreciating asset

897
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: and if you don't think you can win with them now,

898
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: I would rather get picks. I get it.

899
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: At the same time, you know, if you do happen.

900
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: Let's say let's say you get uh, let's say you

901
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: take bow Nick. So let's or the kid from Michigan McCarthy. Okay,

902
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: in the first round. Yeah, in the first round. Wouldn't

903
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: you like him to have DeVante Adams to throw the

904
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: football too? Sure makes his life easier.

905
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: It would. But wouldn't you rather Adams turned into a

906
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: left tackle next year? You know that's cheap and you know,

907
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: and again, yeah, I understand that thinking.

908
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: But again, you know, I'm not suggesting trade Crosby, you know,

909
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm not saying blow it up, blow

910
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: it up. I just don't think there's any way they

911
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: can compete this year. They may look at it differently.

912
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: I mean, they did beat the Chiefs this year.

913
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: They did. They they you know, they.

914
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: The new coach, and yeah, I just see it differently

915
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: than they do. I think, to be very honest with you,

916
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: I think they just don't have much talent.

917
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I mean that's and you could get

918
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: a lot for Adams. That's like your opinion, man, But

919
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: he's also a great candidate for Let's say I'm right

920
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: and they start the season two and six right well,

921
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: in trade tread But that's why everbody.

922
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: Said about like like Evans last year trade deadline right

923
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: and Tampa. Tampa held on to them and they, you know,

924
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: like the most dead money in the league, that the

925
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: least spending in the league, and.

926
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: Think they were uber talented right now. They didn't have

927
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in their division. But true, true, I mean

928
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: they won a bad division, but they also want a

929
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 2: playoff game.

930
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I could I could sell a story in

931
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: Vegas that hey, we're in the same division as the Chiefs,

932
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 3: but we're better than the Chargers were better, we're better

933
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: than Denver.

934
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if I believe that, but they could

935
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: tell that story.

936
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like we're the second best team in

937
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: our division looking for a wild card, you know, building

938
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 3: something here. One Patrick, We're one Patrick Mahomes injury away

939
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: from winning the division.

940
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, seriously, no, I hear you. You know,

941
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: look what happened with with Burrow this year in Cincinnati.

942
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean that was since happened. I know that was

943
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: a you know, a given that the Bengals were going

944
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: to win the AFC North. But I mean, what what

945
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: GM is going to go to the podium the day

946
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: and say, yeah, we're looking to trade DeVonta Adams. Whether

947
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: they are or not, they're not going to tell you

948
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: those things.

949
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't have to, you know, I get it. Yeah,

950
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: I don't.

951
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: But any other big news pop today on the podium,

952
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: but not a lot that I'm seeing here. Let's go

953
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: look somewhere else here. But yeah, I mean, I you know,

954
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: this is You're right, this is the time. It's hard

955
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: to believe everything you're reading this time of year. There's

956
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 3: a lot of media people all in the same spot,

957
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 3: being sent here by their respective companies, being told to

958
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: write stories, whether there's stories be written or not.

959
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

960
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: Joe show And said, we have to consider Daniel Jones'

961
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: injury history when we plan for twenty twenty four.

962
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: This with the Giants, that's on a screaming endorsement. No

963
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: it is not.

964
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: No, I mean I bet that they add another quarterback

965
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: at the minimum. I mean, I don't know they'll be

966
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: the first round, but I bet they take one pretty soon.

967
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

968
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 3: Redfeat with the Chiefs said, we have one tag, meaning

969
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 3: you can only use the franchise or the transition tag.

970
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: You can only use it once for the year. We

971
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: anticipate probably using it, you said, Beach from the Chiefs. Yeah,

972
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna use it on Sneed, probably gonna use it.

973
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: They can't use it on Jones. There's only one other option.

974
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: So it sounds like Sneed's getting tagged. Yeah, okay, and

975
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: we're gonna start getting those things soon here too.

976
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. We got Higgins yesterday, I think right.

977
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

978
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, the running backs all were pretty much declared free.

979
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: They're not gonna get Josh Jacobs didn't have a very

980
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: good year though, Like I never thought he was a

981
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: candidate tag again, No, that didn't make sense. I could

982
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: declining running Yeah, Saque's much more valuable, yeah than Josh Jacobs. Yeah,

983
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: considering the way they played this past year.

984
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: Yes, uh.

985
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: Eric DaCosta said about Odell Beckham will assess and see

986
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: what happens over the next couple of couple of weeks.

987
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: He's not gonna be back. They'll be back, I mean,

988
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: certainly not at the price that they had him. That

989
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: was the worst contract given out this year. I thought

990
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: so too, And Matta Bouquet is going to be very expensive.

991
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: There is talk Stanley will be released. They got a

992
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: lot of free agents, so this one is interesting though. Okay,

993
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 3: the Falcons are going to release Johnny Smith.

994
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: He can be a Steeler. I wouldn't be upset with that.

995
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: I think he's a quality player. I liked him back

996
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: in this Tennessee Day. If he's followed Arthur Smith around

997
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: a little bit, he sure has right if the Steelers

998
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: playing on keeping four, he'd be in the mix. I

999
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: mean he'll block a little bit. He's a decent receiver.

1000
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't love him, but I think he's

1001
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: a contributor.

1002
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to take you want to

1003
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: look at and say we're gonna move make Connor Hayward

1004
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: more of a true full back.

1005
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: I wonder why Atlanta has released him. He's not that

1006
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: big a cap hit. I mean, he's okay they traded.

1007
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: Maybe they viewed him as he's Arthur Smith's guy, or

1008
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: maybe it's gonna feature pits like crazy.

1009
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I don't know would make fantasy owners everywhere happy. Finally,

1010
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: Pitts is gonna be linked to the Steelers a lot.

1011
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: Or Smith is going to be linked to the Steelers

1012
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: a lot.

1013
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Although I don't think there's a need for

1014
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: tight end, you'll like this one.

1015
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: The Browns and other teams have proposed pushing the trade deadline,

1016
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 3: the NFL trade deadline back two weeks.

1017
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: I didn't push a back, push a back, push it back.

1018
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: I still don't quite understand why there is a trade deadline.

1019
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: You have to have some kind of deadline because you

1020
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: don't want teams what you what you can't have because

1021
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: every league has a deadline, and that forces then the action.

1022
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: Well, deadlines do breed action, you know, movement. But the

1023
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: guy's hurt from week eight to nine, but he's probably

1024
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: gonna be fine week eleven and the trade dead nine,

1025
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: you know, like that's just bad luck. It's bad luck

1026
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: for the player and both teams because if there's a

1027
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: deal to be made. I don't know the total.

1028
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: Understand because they kept it. They kept the trade deadline

1029
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: at the same spot when they went to seventeen games. Yeah,

1030
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: now the season's larger, the seasons, the season is actually

1031
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: you know, longer than it used to be. So why

1032
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: not push it back another at least a week or two, right,

1033
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 3: because then more teams.

1034
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: I'm definitely in favor of pushing it back, you know,

1035
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: I know it's extreme, but you can't push it into December.

1036
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: I still don't quite understand why there is one, To

1037
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I know that's a outside the way,

1038
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: just because every league has a trade deadline, why does

1039
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: there have to be one.

1040
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: Well, you don't want, you don't want, you don't want

1041
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: to have happened is the Team B says, you know what,

1042
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: we're completely out of it.

1043
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: We're just going to trade away all of our good players.

1044
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: And the season is over now, We've we've gotten our

1045
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: season ticket money, everybody's you know, that's that money's and

1046
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 3: I know that the last month of the season, we're

1047
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: just not gonna you know, I.

1048
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: Know the NFL despises meaningless games, yes, and there would

1049
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: be a lot of them if the Panthers last year.

1050
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: So we're just trading Burns and Chin and all the

1051
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: guys are gonna be a free agents and we're just

1052
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: going to be horrendous, horrendous. Yet they were still horrendous.

1053
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Well but maybe not the best example. But I just

1054
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: kind of look at it, and again, I understand it's

1055
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: somebody unrealistic, But if Team A wants to give you

1056
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: a second round pick for player B from Team B,

1057
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: why should we tell them no? Two teams want to

1058
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: do it? Deadline you have to trade deadlines in your

1059
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: fantasy league.

1060
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: I think there shouldn't be either. There have to be

1061
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 3: why because it okay, so the league that well, there's

1062
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: always going to be the thought of collusion because if

1063
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: you're out of it and you're trade and your guard

1064
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: in our league for example, yeah, there league that we

1065
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: were both in together. One one league that we do that.

1066
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: My son's in the league with us, and one of

1067
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: our other owners his his son is in the league

1068
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: with us. There's not a collusion, Like I tell I,

1069
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 3: go to my son and say, he'll not feed you anymore. Yeah,

1070
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: give me that more electricity, Give me your five best players.

1071
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: I'll give you my five worst players.

1072
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: You know you're out of it, but the rest of

1073
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: the league should be like, but we kind of see

1074
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: what's going on.

1075
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: There's no vetos though, well there should definitely be vetos

1076
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: or some kind of should not be vetos. You just

1077
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: said if two if two teams make it, decide to

1078
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: make a deal. They're they're big boys, they can make

1079
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: a deal.

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00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: I guess fantasy is different because they're not real human

1081
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: beings and it's a fantasy league. And if this team's eliminated,

1082
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: there is no motivation for next year. I mean, if

1083
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: it's like a dynasty league, that's different. Take all my

1084
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: old guys, give me all your young guys. I'm gonna

1085
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: live for tomorrow.

1086
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 3: That.

1087
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: I have no problem with.

1088
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: Different story though, could I the fact that the trade

1089
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: deadline is getting bumped back? I think is good at

1090
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: least talking about it. Yeah, yeah, see, I'm in favor

1091
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: of that.

1092
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: They would need twenty four teams to approve that for

1094
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: that to happen. That would happened to the owners meeting.

1095
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: So give us something to look forward to at the

1096
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: owner's meeting next month. I just don't know what the

1097
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: complaint would be, like, who stands on the table. I

1098
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: can't possibly do that?

1099
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? Ran Carthin? The Titans just had a

1100
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: good Titans conversation?

1101
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah we did, he said on Dereck Henry will

1102
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 3: be a well positioned to do whatever.

1103
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: We need to do. Do you think there's any chances

1104
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: back after the conversation you had. I don't.

1105
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, I don't, I don't think so.

1106
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 3: I think that's a whole new turning of the page

1107
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: in that whole organiza.

1108
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: See a lot of people looking at him and saying, well,

1109
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: he's going to be a Raven. I think there'll be

1110
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: five or six teams that would have interest. I could

1111
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: see the Cowboys take it out rather on Buffalo. They

1112
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: don't make money, but Buffalo Buffalo can't sign anybody. Kansas City.

1113
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Kansas City would be interesting. If I'm Henry, I'll take

1114
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: half of the price to go to Kansas City. Yeah,

1115
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: but Checko's gonna last like four more days. The way

1116
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 2: he runs. I mean he got hurt running into the bathroom. Yeah,

1117
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Henry was one of the best backs in

1118
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: the league at yards after contact. They gave him nothing

1119
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: and he was a second lean rusher in the league.

1120
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: I thought he was shot, Like, I want nothing to

1121
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: do with him in fancy. He's still really good. Yeah,

1122
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: at some point he's gonna fall off, of course, but

1123
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: he's as freaky as they come, and he's not gonna

1124
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: be expensive this year. Dallas is a great fit if

1125
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: he kept Hollard.

1126
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a Steeler fan, I don't think you

1127
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: want him going to the Ravens, So no, I definitely

1128
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: think that. Yeah, he would be a really good fit

1129
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: there too, And if I were them, I would actively

1130
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 3: pursue it, but they don't have a lot of spending power. Yeah,

1131
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna spend twenty million on Mattabuque, You're probably not

1132
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: going to be in the market for there. They got

1133
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: a lot of free agents too. Yeah, they're gonna get

1134
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: hit a little bit. They got more free agents I

1135
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: think than people realize.

1136
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1137
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: I could see them drafting one high yeah, for the

1138
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: second round pick, running back something like that. Absolutely, and

1139
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: both the running backs a rough Dobbins, and they don't

1140
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: have any running backs rush right now.

1141
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: You know that they're pretty They're pretty bleak there, real bleak. Yeah, Matt.

1142
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for our one day in the

1143
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 2: book today, we got.

1144
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: One in the books. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll start

1145
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: getting some player interviews coming here. We'll get some more

1146
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: I bet Heights and Ways will be coming out soon.

1147
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: We should get some.

1148
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: Of that information out there. We'll have a little more

1149
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: to work off of here. We'll have a lot more

1150
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: to talk about. We'll have some more guests. We had

1151
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: plenty of guests today over the course of our what

1152
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: was it eight hours on the radio, seven hours, seven

1153
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: hours or seven seven hours. We'll be back again tomorrow

1154
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: with seven hours starting at nine am. Wesley Euler kicking

1155
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: things off here with Arthur Motes.

1156
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: He likes to do that. He likes this early. It's

1157
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: not super early.

1158
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: He's a leadoff hitter and then we come in and

1159
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 3: clear the bases for him. But that's going to do

1160
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: it for our show today. So for my partner Matt

1161
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 3: Williamson for CJ back in Pittsburgh keeping us on the air,

1162
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly. We appreciate you listening to this edition

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Speaker 3: of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports

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