1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of The Clay Travis 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show is here everybody, and we so 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us. Rolling on by here getting 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: getting all the latest. Today we will discuss that raid 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: on a terrorist basically no one had heard of outside 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: of the National Security Complex, but there was a big 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: raid special operations, number of casualties involved, including the terrorist, 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: but also some civilians. What happened there in Syria. Will 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: be joined by Jack Carr, former Navy seal and author, 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: to help us analyze that situation. Where are we in 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: the war on terror? People don't talk about it anymore 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: right now though. We are joined by Missouri Senator Josh 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Holly once again. Senator Holly, great to have you with us. Hey, 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Can we just start with you. 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard, and I'm sure you've shared it, but 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: I was curious about your feelings with this announcement from 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the Biden administration of an open Supreme Court seat that 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: he would only that he would follow through on the 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: initial promise of only appointing a black female jurist to 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: the High Court. What do you what do you make 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: of that, Senator Holly, Well, you know, I mean he 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: can appoint whomember he wants. I suppose, I said, I 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: think it's a mistake to appoint based on a quota 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: and to rule out large numbers of people before you've 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: even looked at their merits or qualifications. But listen, I 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: mean my criteria are this, This needs to be a 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: pro constitution judge who is going to apply the law 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: as it's written and not how they want it to be. 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: And also, by the way, who believes in the rule 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: of law. I mean, I don't think the President's notice, 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: but we're in the midst of a historic crime wave, 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: and we need judges who actually believe in our criminal 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: law system, who believe that it is just and fair 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: and not systemically racist. And I tell you he's been 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: sending up to the Senate one activist, left wing, pro crime, 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: pro criminal judge after another, So I hope that's not 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: who he sends us for the Supreme Court. Senator Holly, 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. I know the White House has 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: been coming after you, basically accusing you of as close 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: as they can get up to saying it that you're 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: basically a Russian plant for the arguments that you're making 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: about Ukraine. Now, first of all, are you in fact 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: a Russian plant? And second, what didn't you think when 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: you saw what Jensaki said at the White House? Oh 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: my gosh. I mean, it's just no one not to 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: get that on the record. I just think that it 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: shows how intellectually and morally bankrupt this administration is. I mean, 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: they don't have the ability to engage in any kind 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: of an argument for any of their positions because they 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: are historically unpopular. Nobody likes what they're doing, Nobody believes 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: in their policies, and they don't want to have a 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: debate about it. They don't want to have an argument. 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: They want to shout down their critics, whether it's me 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: or Joe Rogan or anybody else, shout them down, shut 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: them down, because they don't want to open debate because 57 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: they're losing. Listen on Ukraine. Who's responsible for the position 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: in the United States is in with regarding Ukraine. Joe 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: Biden is who came into office and allowed Russia to 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: start up their energy pipeline too. It's called their energy 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: pipeline that stuffed dollars into the pockets of Vladimir Putin 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: and his cronies. Who did that, Joe Biden did that. 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Who denied Ukraine military aid last year when Mukraine asked 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: for it, Joe Biden did. And now that we're in 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: a crisis now he wants to send American troops from 66 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: our country to Europe. We already have tens of thousands there. 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: He wants to moore. I think that's a mistake. I'm 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: opposed to sending thousands of additional troops. I'll take my 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: stand on that any day. Speaking of Senator Josh Holly 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: of Missouri, Senator Holly, we've got the Olympics. Clay's the 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: sports guy, so he's gonna look at him make sure 72 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: I get the hand signals. I think starting today in Beijing, right, 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: that's enough of a newster. Thank you, Clay. Clay's giving 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: me the thumbs up. I appreciate that. But you know, 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: for the angle of it, that is that is particularly interesting, 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: and I think for a lot of other folks, is 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: this is happening in China. I feel like more and 78 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: more Americans and honestly the whole world are waking up 79 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: to the realities of not just the threat of the 80 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party internally to descend in human rights, but 81 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: obviously to the rest of the world. So how do 82 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 1: you want to think? How do you think people should 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: be approaching this. Obviously we're supportive of the athletes and 84 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: that's great, but what do you think about China being 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: able to hold this. I feel like some people are 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: saying it feels a little bizarre. Oh, they never shud 87 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: ever have been allowed to host them with their games, 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: no question about it. And the fact that you know, 89 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: these mental operations and televising. I'm not watching any of it, 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: so I don't know, but I think it's ABC's televising. 91 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna make money on this and who knows, 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: and mean just truckloads of cash on it. I think 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: it's really repulsive. I mean, it's just the fact that 94 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: that China is allowed to try and circco it's record 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: of being the most oppressive to tolitarian regime on the planet. 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: It's frankly just sickening. So listen, I certainly support our athletes. 97 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: I hope they's great. I wish them well, but I 98 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: personally am if not going to watch on television and 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: not going to give mine support to that as a citizen. 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I just think it's wrong, and I think it's a 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: long time I had this game. We were talking earlier. 102 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said about about bowing 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: down to China and allowing them to host the Winter 104 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: Olympics at all. I think it's a disgrace that we've 105 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: allowed that to occur. But speaking of allowed to occur, 106 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned Joe Rogan, and certainly we've seen with Whoopie 107 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: Goldberg and what's happened to her, and all of the 108 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: discussions this week surrounding what should and shouldn't be permissible 109 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: to be said. And I'm a big marketplace of ideas guy, 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Senator Holly, I think you are to a large extent too. 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: But on the show, we were discussing what I believe 112 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: is a monster story that isn't being discussed enough. The 113 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: White House is directing big tech company what they believe 114 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: should or should not be happening in terms of speech. 115 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: The government can't do that directly. You know this better 116 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: than almost anybody because you are a legal scholar. But 117 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: it's even not allowed, and it should be called out 118 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: more than it is to allow them to use big 119 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: tech to regulate in a way that they themselves would 120 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: be unable to from a constitutional perspective, What do you 121 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: think about what's going on? And are we not giving 122 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: enough attention to really what It is a radical proposition 123 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: that is being put forward by the Biden administration almost 124 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: on a daily basis now as it pertains to big 125 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: tech in regulation, it is absolutely radical, and you're exactly 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: right about it. And my view is that it is 127 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: a profound threat to our constitutional norms, in constitutional values. 128 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, Clay, I can't imagine just even twenty years ago, 129 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean barely a generation ago. I cannot imagine an 130 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: American president urging media companies newspapers, television, you know, which 131 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: is the equivalent of today's social media, urging them actively 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: to censor viewpoints he doesn't like and disagrees with. Can 133 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: you imagine the outcry? And now now they're doing it, 134 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: as you say, brasonally. I mean, now they're using the 135 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: bully pulpit of the White House to try and urge 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: these tech companies with their in their public forums to 137 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: shut out voices that they disapprove. And it's not even 138 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, they've been doing it to the right. They've 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: been trying to censor the right for a long time. 140 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: But you could say a lot about you know, Dary 141 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Rogan's political views. I don't think you can characterize him. 142 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: And he certainly had a right layer, let's put it 143 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: that way. I mean, the guy is very independent for 144 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: his credit, you know, And I just get the idea 145 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: that the president what urge this. It just shows I 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: think that this administration, certainly, and unfortunately many on the 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: left are the leaders of the left, no longer believe 148 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: in the fundamental principle of free speech. They don't believe Clay, 149 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: what you alluded to just a second ago, which is 150 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: that the cure for speech that you don't lie, or 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: for speech that is inaccurate, is more speech. Amen, don't 152 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: you don't throttle it down to open it up. And 153 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: that's you know, this is why the whole idea that well, 154 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: if I don't like speech, I'll call it thiss information, 155 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: and but I'll censor it. Oh my gosh, that's exactly 156 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: what our First Amendment is designed to protect against. So 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm really worried about it. And also, you know, you 158 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: see the same thing happening on campuses, but to come 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: from the President, to come from the White House, I 160 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: think it's really really destructive and it's really dangerous. Speaking 161 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: of Josh Holly, Senator from the Great State of Missouri, 162 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: Senator Holly, it seems more and more like the Biden 163 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: administration is just running out of narrative. I mean, you know, 164 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to convince people that the economy is great, 165 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: they created all these jobs. It was all hinging, it 166 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: seemed on the buildmac Better Plan, which is there going 167 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: to be a renewed effort in any serious way for 168 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: that to pass before the midterm election because absence that, 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: it just feels like failure is the only way to 170 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: describe what we've seen so far, and therefore a Democrat 171 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: pivot is the only way they'll be able to respond 172 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: if they get crushed in the mid terms, or that's 173 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: the way they should respond. How do you see this 174 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: playing out? I know we're early in twenty twenty two, 175 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like it's going to change anytime soon. 176 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: Oh and I don't think that. Up here on Capitol Hill, 177 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: I can tell you they don't think that they really 178 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: have any problem. I mean, they think that what they're 179 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: doing is great, which shows you how out of touch 180 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: they are with reality. I mean, this is the most 181 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: unpopular administration of my lifetime. This president can hardly complete 182 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: a sentence. I mean, it is stunning, it is scary, 183 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: and the American people are looking at as a tenda 184 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, Wow, you're giving us inflation that is 185 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: totally out of control. You're giving us a foreign policy 186 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: disasters everywhere you turn Afghanistan, China, Ukraine, and Russia. And 187 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: this is a guy who is leading this country into 188 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: disaster after disaster, and people don't like it, they don't 189 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: want it. But I think the Democrats as question, I 190 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: think they're just going to try to forge ahead, and 191 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll accomplish much this year because they're 192 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: so internally divided. But I you know, the American people 193 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: are getting a good look at the Democrat leaders and 194 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: what they want for this country. And what they want 195 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: is a basically economic socialism combined with their hard left vocism. 196 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: When it comes to social policy, it's just radical stuff. 197 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: And the American people they don't want it, and in fact, 198 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: they hate it. That's why Joe Biden is so unpopular. 199 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: Senator Holly a couple of questions here for you to 200 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: close out one, what happened to your chiefs? Two? Two? 201 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Second part of that, did you see the mayor of 202 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles saying that when he was getting his picture 203 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: taken with Magic Johnson it wasn't an issue with COVID 204 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: because he held his breath. I mean he was at 205 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in rams game. I mean, that's 206 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: there's video that's a direct quote from him. So I'll 207 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: let you first address the chiefs collapse. In second, how 208 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: good of a breath holder you might be and what 209 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: that might mean for your future photographs when I'm on 210 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: the second part. First, that the hypocrisy on this is unbelievable, 211 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to call out any 212 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: of my senate colleagues in my name, but I'll just 213 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: say that the rank hypocrisy to watch these people walk 214 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: around with masks and then as soon as they get 215 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: away from the cameras to rip off their masks. Oh yeah, 216 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: it's all theater. I mean, it's all theater. And for 217 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden to be out there saying blaming folks who 218 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: are unvaccinated and saying that they're the reason the pandemic 219 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: is raging. No, they're not. We know that people who 220 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, can get COVID, and are you know, 221 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: for no fault on anybody's own. I mean, the truth 222 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: is the disadministration, the hypocrisy, the failure to plan. It's unbelievable. Okay, 223 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefso I mean, you're really kind of twisting the 224 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: knife on that one. Well, look, I'm a Titans fan. 225 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: We lost in the Bengals first, so I'm still angry 226 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: at Ryan Tannehill. So you're you're better off than me 227 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: because at least you're in the AFC Championship game. Fair enough, 228 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: fair enough. I just you know, I don't want to 229 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: be a Monday morning quarterback on I mean, obviously with 230 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: a disappointing loss. I mean, they let me put it 231 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: this way. I'm trying to put it in the positive way. 232 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: I thought the angles came out and their defensive adjustments 233 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: after halftime, particularly, I mean, I think what they did 234 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: with their safeties and you know, using it, getting to 235 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: just basically play one high, having one of the safeties 236 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: could come forward to do some spying sort of clogging 237 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: up that middle that to Mahomes have been easy, really effective, 238 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: effectively in the first half. I mean, I thought that 239 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: that was they did a good job. You know, they 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: did a good job defensively, and unfortunately we just didn't 241 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: find an answer to that until until the end, too 242 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: late in the game. I mean, it just didn't happen. 243 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: So a lot of credit to them for their defensive 244 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: adjustments and you know, and then offensively obviously, I mean 245 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: the angles, they really got it going. And uh, you know, 246 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: when you score, when you allow twenty one, I think unanswered, 247 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: that's hard to do, you know, in an AFC Championship 248 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: game and expect to win. But listen, that all sounds 249 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of native. I mean, I just I'm I'm really, 250 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm a huge stand lifelong fan, will be forever. They 251 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,599 Speaker 1: had a great season. I wish they were going to 252 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: be playing a couple of Sundays from now. But you 253 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: know what, they're young, and I've gotten to know from 254 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: the players on the team they're great guys, and this 255 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: will be great learning experience and they'll be backing better 256 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: than ever, no doubt. Four straight AFC Championship games. I 257 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: bet you didn't think you'd see that as a Chiefs 258 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: fan anytime soon. Good stuff has always center Hollie, we'll 259 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: talk to you again soon. 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Incredible cell. 276 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Go to code Clay and Buck at my pillow dot com. 277 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: You can also call eight hundred seven nine, two thirty 278 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: two sixty nine, Do It Today. Welcome back in Clay 279 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton. Lots of talk of late about what's 280 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: going on with misinformation and disinformation. You've certainly heard those 281 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: terms a great deal. A lot of people, including this show, 282 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: have been pointing out that some of the foremost proponents 283 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: of misinformation and disinformation are the CDC are their allies 284 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: at MSNBC and also at The Washington Post, in The 285 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: New York Times and CNN. They have consistently spread falsehoods 286 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: that have later been proven to be untrue. Worse than that, 287 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: they have not allowed you or me, or many of 288 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: us to adequately debate whether or not what they are 289 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: spreading is accurate or not. Well. A lot of people 290 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: have been unwilling to engage in this battle. One of 291 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: them that has been willing Rhonda Santis. Here is a 292 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: flip flop fauci take from the Rhonda Santis group. I 293 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: think you're going to enjoy it. Listen, some major flip flop. 294 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: People should not be walking around with masks. Masks were 295 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated, you are protected and you do not need 296 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: to wear a mask. If you are vaccinated, you should 297 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: still wear a mask. You really better be very careful 298 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: before you bring the children back. The default position should 299 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: be to try as best as possible to keep the 300 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: children in school right now, at this moment, there is 301 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: no need to change anything if you're doing on a 302 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: day by day basis. I would like to see a 303 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: dramatic diminution of the personal interaction that so let me 304 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: clarify that because they was a little bit of a misunderstanding. 305 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's perfect Clay's right, He's such an evil 306 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: little apparat chicks, such a tyrant in a lab code. 307 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that people still listen to this guy 308 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: at all, or I love what people say. Oh but 309 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just listening to what Fauci says or 310 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: what the CDC says. No person who was able to 311 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: think for themselves believes that that's an argument anymore. I mean, 312 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: no person who actually pays attention to reality, recent history 313 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: and data thinks that. Oh but this is what Rochelle 314 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: will Lenski and Fauci and the others are telling us, 315 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: because there are a bunch of jackass bureaucrats. Let's be honest, 316 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: they did what they had to do to keep the 317 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: Democrats happy. And to keep getting invited on CNN as 318 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: if that's something to be proud of. And here we 319 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: are seeing the results of it. Now, what do they 320 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: actually do? I mean, we looked at lockdowns. I was 321 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: obviously disaster. I think you're going to see that almost nothing, 322 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: almost nothing that we were made to go through actually 323 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: made a damn bit of difference and created a tremendous 324 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: amount of downside for everyone, so tremendous amount of strife. 325 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: How do we get rid of Faucci? Do you think 326 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: because we had rand Paul and we had this debate 327 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: last week or the week before, and he said he 328 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: believes a red wave, which, to be quite honest, that 329 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: should be reason enough in my opinion to vote Republican 330 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: just to get rid of doctor Fauci. But Buck, do 331 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: you think that Faucci will resign if Republicans take back 332 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: control of the House and Senate and start to thrill 333 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: him on the specifics of his behavior and his actions. Yes. 334 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this right now. If Republicans do 335 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: this whole, if they take the House and they take 336 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: the Senate and they do this old, well, we just 337 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: want to look forward. We don't want to make problems 338 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: for Faucci. I'm going to call them out on this show. 339 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to lose my mind on them a little 340 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: bit because unacceptable. We need accountability, all right, and we 341 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: need accountability as soon as we can get it, and 342 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: that means Faucci gets called out and gets fired. That's 343 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: what has to happen. But we'll see he's a hope 344 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: resigned before he gets fired. 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Again, 360 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: that's t the number two t dot org. Take action today, 361 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: help our heroes and their families. Towne of the Towers 362 00:18:53,400 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: Foundation t twot dot org. The United States Military Forces 363 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: successfully removed a major terrorist trip to the world, a 364 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: global leader of ISIS known as Haji Abdula. Knowing that 365 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: this terrorists had chosen surround himself with families, including children, 366 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: we made a choice to pursue a Special Forces raid 367 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: at a much greater risk than to our own people, 368 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: rather than targeting him with an airstrike. We made this 369 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: choice to minimize civilian casualties. Last night's operation took a 370 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: major terrorist leader off the battlefield and has sent a 371 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: strong message to terrorists around the world, we will come 372 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: after you and find you. Welcome back the Clay and 373 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: Buck show. That was President Biden earlier today on the 374 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: Special Forces. Our special operations raid that targeted ISIS leader 375 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: Abu Ibraheim al Hashimi al Quaishi, who is somebody that 376 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: I don't think many folks out there had heard of 377 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: unless you work in you know, anti isis targeting. We 378 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: want to bring somebody in to help us analyze what 379 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: we know so far about this raid and just where 380 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: we stand in the war on terror as it is. 381 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: Jack cars with us now. He's a former Navy seal 382 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: sniper and task unit commander with service in Iraq and Afghanistan. 383 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: He's also the best selling author of the Terminalist series. 384 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: His latest in The Blood, is available for pre order. Jack, 385 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, Oh, thanks for having me on. 386 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: So you see this one and this is there's some photos, 387 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: some video of the raid site. It's a house in 388 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: northwest Syria, sent in apparently Apache gun ships, special forces 389 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: and or special operations I should say, units that didn't 390 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: really specify that much about who exactly was involved. From 391 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: what I've seen so far, he the terrorist leader apparently 392 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: detonated a suicide vest or detonated a bomb of some kind, 393 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: killing a number of civilians. What do you make of 394 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: this raid in terms of is this a successful did 395 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: we want to actually capture and try to get intel? 396 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: And then what are your thoughts? Yeah, and the capture 397 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: versus kills always, uh you never know how know how 398 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: that's going to play out these days, especially in today's 399 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: political climate. So you know, he took himself out the 400 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: same way that his predecessor, alt Bag Daddy did in 401 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen with a suicide vest at least that's what 402 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: is being reported, and took out his wife and some 403 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: of his kids at the same time. So what's not 404 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: really being focused on as much is that also a 405 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: top lieutenant of his was killed in the raid by 406 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: US Special Operations Forces on another level of that house, 407 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: and oftentimes that can be even more important in decapitating 408 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: that head of the snake to get that top lieutenant 409 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: essentially at the COO who is managing those day today operations. 410 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: So we really took out two terrorist targets, did a 411 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: proof of concept under this new administration. And interestingly enough, 412 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: this terrorist leader was acting in a sailor fashioned to 413 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: what bin Laden did, staying in one place, not leaving 414 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: his compound, not leaving his building, only going up to 415 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: the roof for some fresh air every now and again, 416 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: which is different. If you remember, Yasser Arafat would change 417 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: locations almost daily, at least every couple couple days but 418 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: it just shows how they're adapting and how we need 419 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: to adapt as well. But also, you know, we decided 420 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: not to take him out with some sort of a 421 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: strike that would put innocent civilians at more risk. And 422 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: and that's what I saw during my time in Iraq 423 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: and Affian at dan As. That was whether it was 424 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: us going in or it was some sort of an 425 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: air strike that we were calling in, that was of 426 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: the highest importance is to protect those those civilians. So 427 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: the other part of that is you can show a 428 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: dead body. It can't be spun as much as it 429 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: could if you just have a demolished building where you 430 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: say someone was killed, So you actually have a body, 431 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: there's proof of that of that debt there, and also 432 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: safety of flight just getting to and front. We saw 433 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: that helicopter had to be destroyed on target or close 434 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: to the target anyway, And it just goes to show 435 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: that just getting to and from these locations is tough. 436 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: And whether that means you're on the ground somewhere, moving 437 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: in vehicles, or you're in the air, that sinky of 438 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: flight is still so dangerous for everyone involved in these 439 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: operations and the spectrum of desert one in nineteen eighty 440 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Mogadishu blackhawk down, the helicopter, the crash in the bi 441 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: laden raid. These things are always at the at the 442 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: forefront of the planning for these types of operations, Jack, 443 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: Do we have any indications early on? Certainly we saw 444 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: the terror attack that happened when thirteen soldiers lost their 445 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: lives in Afghanistan. Do we have any indications early on 446 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: whether the new Taliban control in Afghanistan is increasing the 447 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: overall reach of terrorist organizations in the Middle East, or 448 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: if the Taliban is actually doing some of what they 449 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: said they would, which is preventing, at least in theory, 450 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: the rise of Isis. Do we have any indications right 451 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: now how this is going. You know, that's a tough 452 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: one to to evaluate. And I hope we have people 453 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: that are on this daily and I hope we left 454 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: behind human net human networks in Afghanistan. They can be reported. 455 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: We were there for twenty years and as you know, 456 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: on the intelligence services, part of what we do there 457 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: is leave behind these long term depenetration type operations um 458 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: and that our sources are still solid. And after twenty years, 459 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: I have to think that that is the case. And 460 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: then we're getting some very good information back on that frontum, 461 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: but there's a lot to deal with over there. But 462 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: at the same time, without us being there daily and 463 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: keeping them on their toes, I don't see how they 464 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: can't be expanding outside of the region when it comes 465 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: to building their networks, adapting and pushing that reach, whether 466 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: it's just regionally or virtually into into countries where they're 467 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: um that that they're not very close to as far 468 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: as proximity. We're speaking of Jack Carr, former Navy seal 469 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: author of the Terminalist series in the Blood. His latest 470 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: is available for pre order. Jack, I want to ask 471 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, just yesterday, I believe Clay wasn't yester the 472 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: first day where they started to dismiss active duty members 473 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: of the military who refused to get the vaccine as 474 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: somebody who served and served on frontline in frontline combat roles. 475 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: And I'm sure still has many many brothers and sisters 476 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: who are still in the armed services. What do you 477 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: make of that? Well, it's very disheartening that everything has 478 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: become so politicized as far as this issue goes. This 479 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: science quote unquote, the science h seems to be evolving. 480 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: People at the senior levels don't really have the greatest 481 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: idea of what is happening the with COVID, and it's 482 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: different iterations. So it's just very disheartening to me that 483 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: it's politicized and that we are essentially targeting certain people 484 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: trying to move them out of different positions in government 485 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: just because they have some questions about what I think 486 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: still as of today is an experimental vaccine. UM. So 487 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: it just that that it's been politicized so much as disheartening. 488 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: I saw that even a Navy chaplain um had his 489 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: h wasn't allowed to have some buzz, allowed not to 490 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: take it for religious exemption purposes. UM. So when you 491 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: have an actual chaplain, not just someone you suspect might 492 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: be just trying to get around some sort of a mandate, 493 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: um in an actual chaplain um that is in the 494 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Navy for this reason um not getting a religious exemption. UM. 495 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's just disheartening to me that 496 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: everything is so politicized on that front. Jack. When you 497 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: look back to the rate in Syria and the killing 498 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: of the isis operative, how do you value or way 499 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: the cost of potential innocent life versus the benefit of 500 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: being able to eliminate one of these top leaders of 501 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: a terrorist organization. In other words, there's the report that 502 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: there might have been ten people, women and children potentially 503 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: who died as a part of this raid, again early reports. 504 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: Is there a number when your experience as an abcal 505 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: where you say, Okay, it might be worth the risk 506 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: of ten other people dying, but it's not worth a hundred. 507 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: How do you balance the risk versus the danger here 508 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: of raids as it pertains to quote unquote innocent life 509 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: versus a terrorist target. What kind of balancing acts have 510 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: you seen? Yeah, so collateral damage is something that you 511 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: hate to say always, but it is always a part 512 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: of warfare. So that being said, my personal experience downrange 513 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: in Iraq in Afghanistan was that if there was the 514 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: and dying and sort of an operation that we could 515 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: look at ahead of time, we wouldn't do it. And 516 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: that goes at every level, tactical, operational, strategic. All of 517 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: those levels were in alignment there, and I think that 518 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: is really what the main thing that differentiates us from 519 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: our enemy. We maintained that moral high ground. We put 520 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: thought into this, We put ourselves at risk so as 521 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: to not hurt or kill innocent civilians to the best 522 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: of our possible ability. And then you see our enemy, 523 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: what do they do. They detonate that suicide, vest kill 524 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: their wife and children, both this latest target and held 525 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: Baghdaddy before him. And then you can juxtapose that also 526 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: very interestingly with Bin Latton, who had time to prepare 527 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: who there were shots fired in the compound already, he 528 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: had an aka in his room and did not defend 529 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: himself in the end like he asked so many others 530 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: to do for him. So so very interesting, these different leaders. 531 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: But the last two one last night and Al Baghdaddy 532 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: before him, they took the lives of innocent people, where 533 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: we do the exact opposite. And I think that is 534 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: really the main differentiator differentiator between us and our enemy. 535 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: We maintain that moral high ground every chance we get. 536 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: Jack car former Navy seal out the Terminalist series and 537 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: his latest in The Blood, available for pre order now. 538 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Great author and a great American. Jack, thanks for being 539 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: with us, Thanks for having me on you guys, take care, 540 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: good stuff. As always. 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If 565 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: Dub likes your five star review, I'll send you an 566 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 1: autograph copy of my most recent book entitled Republicans Buy 567 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: Sneakers Too. So Dub is the judge, make him entertaining? 568 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Is is Dub? Therefore the reviews are like, do we 569 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: have a new role for him? I think he's bizarre 570 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: of review. He is. He is going to determine if 571 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: you're unhappy, if you say, wait, Clay Buck, I had 572 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: an amazing review and I didn't hear my name or 573 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: my review read out. It's on Dub. Dub is the 574 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: He's the determiner. He is the he is the arbiter, 575 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: the decider, as a decider, as it were. Let's go 576 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: down to Dayton, Texas. Richard got a question for us 577 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: about masks. Richard, what's shaking man? Are you surviving the 578 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: great winter blasts Dayton, Texas? Have any weather? Yes, it's 579 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: getting cold and Wendy, Hey, I had cold, was in 580 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: the hospital for six days and my question is, and 581 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: we know the answer. If the mask was so good, 582 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: why could my wife and not come into my room 583 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: with a mask on and or a face shield or 584 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: both and shit with me, invented with me, because if 585 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: I would have died, all she would have got to 586 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: do is coming there later and see my dead body. Yeah, 587 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: I first of all, I think this is the one 588 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: trash it out in the beginning, the mask, the mask, 589 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: or in the factor he said it itself. This is 590 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: one of the great tragedy. There's so many tragedy he's 591 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: associated with our response to COVID, but Buck, the number 592 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: of people that died alone, unable to be comforted by 593 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: their family members, unable to be interacting with their family 594 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: members in any way, is indescribably awful that we allowed 595 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: that to happen. This is a reminder that the people 596 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: you know Faucci and the people a lot of the 597 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: people around him, they pose a so concerned for your 598 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: well being, and Fauci is almost propped up as this 599 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: concerned grandfatherly figure to America. These people act like fascists, 600 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: and they engage in real cruelty because they're so arrogant 601 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: and because they're unwilling to admit that they don't know 602 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: what's actually real, what's true, what's going to happen. They 603 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: have no humility whatsoever. And one of the prime examples 604 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: of that was earlier on in the pandemic when people 605 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: were having a say goodbye to loved ones at best 606 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: over zoom. In some cases they couldn't even coordinate with 607 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: the hospital to be able to see them. And if 608 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: you were a if you're a thirty year old who 609 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: had a parent in the hospital and or a grandparent 610 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: in the hospital, let's say, and you wanted to say 611 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: goodbye to them, you should have absolutely been allowed to 612 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, it's it's outrageous. And at the 613 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: first point about mask too, why not double mass double 614 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: masking is so effective, give me a break. We all 615 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: know think about the young kids, like you said, grandparents 616 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: or parents that were not able to say goodbye. I mean, 617 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but I'm sure almost everybody out there listening 618 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: has been in that situation where you're with a parent 619 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: or a grandparent at their bedside as you know that 620 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: they are going to pass, and how important those final 621 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: moments can be. Those final conversations' just comforting to both 622 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: and to disallow that it was I mean, to me, 623 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: it's a human rights crime in many ways. Steve and 624 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: Bowling Green, Kentucky, just up over the border here between 625 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee and Kentucky. Steve, what you got for us? Hey, guys? 626 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: First of all, I just wanted to say, great job, man. 627 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys wearing the towards for Rush, and 628 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know you're doing a 629 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: fine job. You know. Thanks, well, you appreciate that. Thanks 630 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, And I'll get straight to the point, guys. 631 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 1: And now we're short on time. But you know, in 632 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: my younger years, of course leaned a little Democrat, and 633 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: then you know, I hit my forties, I started leaning 634 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: a little more Republican, and then after twenty twenty and 635 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: everything the way it's been nowadays, I just I have 636 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: no faith in either one. And I want to know 637 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: your guy's opinion on the rise of a possible third 638 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: party that could be a contender to do something about 639 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: this craziness. And on top of that, what's you know, 640 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: what's your guys' opinion on something like that? What would 641 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: that look like? And how could us as listeners help 642 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: bring this to fruition, you know, well, you know there's 643 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: there's First of all, it's a great question. It comes 644 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: up a lot. I mean, I think that because of 645 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: the way our system currently exists, in the infrastructure of 646 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: the two parties and just the way it all shakes out, 647 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: the best option is going to continue to be to 648 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: make the Republican Party a conservative party of fighters, right 649 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: And I know right now, for a lot of people 650 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 1: who were either brought into the party or energized from 651 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: within the party because of Trump, they may feel a 652 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: little bit like, well, what is it now? Is it 653 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: really kind of the Mitch McConnell party do? We have 654 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people that feel like aren't going to 655 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: get up and fight. But the problem with third party 656 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: efforts is, especially in the early phases, you often will 657 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: take away from your base of support and you can 658 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: hand victories to Democrats by doing so. And we look, 659 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: we can't afford to lose more elections here. I mean, 660 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: the country is being changed in front of us in 661 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: very real ways. You got the open border, you got 662 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: to change in election laws, you got the COVID tyranny 663 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: that we're all living through. So Clay, I like the 664 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean I should say I understand the idea third party. 665 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: We just got to make the best Republican party we 666 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: can get here, and it may have Trump at the 667 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: head of it, by the way, pretty soon you'll see yeah. 668 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: And also I would say, if you go look at 669 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: the voting totals, the libertarians gave Joe Biden Wisconsin, Georgia, 670 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: Arizona and other states too. And so if you are 671 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: a libertarian, and I have voted libertarian before in my life, 672 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: if you are a libertarian and you live in a 673 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: state that is going to be competitive, I don't think 674 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: you have the luxury of going and voting for a 675 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: third party. I think you need to sack up and 676 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: make a decision. Are you going to vote Democrat or 677 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: you're going to vote Republican. And if you're a libertarian 678 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: who voted libertarian and cost the Republicans the win, I 679 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: think you're an imbecile. Frank dub is not real ending 680 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: you a copy of Clay's book, That's for sure, no 681 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: free book for you. I just think you're an episode. 682 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: You got to make a choice, and you've got to 683 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: decide which one are you. It's time for choices this 684 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: fall