1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton show, 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Breaking news for all of you, and I'm assuming Governor 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Chris Christy, who is joining us right now, has heard 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: this as well. The FBI has put out a statement 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: in Buffalo that they are investigating an explosion at Rainbow Bridge, 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: one of the crossing points from Canada into New York State. 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: I've got audio that I'm going to play for you 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: that has just aired on Fox News. Alexis McAdams, who 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: is at Fox News, says, high level police sources tell 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: me this is an attempted terror attack. Sources say the 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: car was full of explosives and both men inside are dead. 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: This is what just aired on Fox News. I'll let 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: you react to it here momentarily, Governor Christy, because this 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: is all just breaking news. We're just becoming aware of it. 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Listen, Alexis mccadams is reporting, according to high level police sources, 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: the explosion was an attempted terrorist attack, a lot of 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: explosives in the vehicle at the time. The two people 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: who were in the car are deceased. One Border patrol 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: officer was injured driving from the US, apparently to Canada 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: and we're trying to drive towards the CBP building. So 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: all bridges in the area have been closed. All government 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: buildings in the area have been evacuated. 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: All right, let me read the statement from the FBI. 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: The FBI Buffalo Field Office is investigating a vehicle explosion 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: at the Rainbow Bridge, a border crossing between the US 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: and Canada in Niagara Falls. The FBI is coordinating with 27 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: our local, state, and federal law enforcement partners in this investigation. 28 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: As this situation is very fluid, that's all we can 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: say at this time. That is the FBI statement on 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: this explosion in Buffalo On. Many of you will be 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: familiar with this, the Rainbow Bridge near Niagara Falls. And 32 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: remember this comes on the heels of Kathy Hokele and 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: other New Yorkers telling New York that they had evidence 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: out there that there may be a terror attack and 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for this. We bring in 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: now Governor Chris Christy, who prosecuted some of the cases 37 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: relating to nine to eleven former United States attorney who 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: has dealt with terrorism related charges. I know you're just 39 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: hearing about this right now as we all are as well. 40 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: What in your experience is going on right now, and 41 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: what should everybody out there listening to us right now, 42 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: certainly those in Buffalo and the state of New York 43 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: in particular, be aware of in your mind at this 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: point in time. 45 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: Well, guys, first off, I think what the FBI is 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: doing is dispatching their people who can deal with forensic 47 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: evidence at the scene. That vehicle. Everything that's in it, 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: the type of explosives that were used, a type of 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: detonator that was used, and any other information that might 50 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: be on the two dead terrorists or edged terrorists now 51 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: inside that vehicle is everything the forensics folks are going 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: to be working out with the FBI. Second, the FBI 53 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 3: is going to be looking at all the information after 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: from their joint Terrorism task forces around the country that 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: work with the US attorney's offices and local law enforcement 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: to see if there are any dots that can be 57 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: connected there. They're also going to be talking to our 58 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: intelligence community that works this portion of our country and 59 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Canada to see what they're getting there, and that'll be 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: where they'll start. And you know, look, this should not 61 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: be surprising to any of us, and this is why 62 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: American my view, guys, has to be engaged in the world. 63 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: We are not on an island here, and when things 64 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: happen in other parts of the world, there is going 65 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: to be an impact here in the US. Potentially. We 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: have to be prepared to deal with it, and we 67 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: need to be engaged with the rest of the world 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: to try to lessen that threat by showing strength around 69 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: the world. And the weakness that Joe Biden has been 70 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: showing is a problem, and it's going to be a 71 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: problem that's going to continue to create more conflict, not 72 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: less strength lessons conflict. Weakness increases it. 73 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Governor Chris Christy, so obviously we're going 74 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: to continue to monitor this situation in Buffalo. Any update 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: staff will hit me with almost in real time, So 76 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: we'll continue to update you on this in the final 77 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: hour of the show as we head into Thanksgiving. But 78 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: you just mentioned the campaign, the situation that's going on there. 79 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: I looked at national polling coming out basically this morning. 80 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: This is the National Republican primary from Emerson. I'm sure 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: you've seen it. It has you at three percent overall, 82 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: Trump at sixty four percent, Hailey at nine, DeSantis at eight, 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: Ramaswami at five if you believe that's act. Do you 84 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: think you're around three percent nationwide right now? 85 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: Now? I don't think it's accurate. And by the way, 86 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: I don't think it matters. We don't have a national 87 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: primary stutus. If we had a national primary, then this 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: would be over. We have a primary that goes state 89 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: by state by state. And if you look at those numbers, 90 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is twenty five to thirty points lower than 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: what he is in the national polls, and in New Hampshire, 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: I'm fourteen points higher than what it has to be 93 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: in the national polls. And those elections in Iowa, New Hampshire, 94 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: South Carolina are going to happen well before anything else, 95 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: and there the results there will impact what people think 96 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: around the country. 97 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: Okay, so, Iowa New Hampshire January February, you are doing 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: well in some of those New Hampshire state polls. It's 99 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: clear you don't want Donald Trump to be president of 100 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: the United States. If you do not win in Iowa 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, would you then drop out of the race 102 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: and endorse someone other than Trump? Is that natural progression? 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Is it fair to say you need to win in 104 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: Iowa New Hampshire or come in a very close second. 105 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: At minimum. 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: Look, I think I need to do well in New Hampshire. 107 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: That's what I need to do, and that's what I 108 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: intend to do, and then we'll evaluate the campaign thereafter. 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: But if I do well in New Hampshi, which I 110 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: expect to do, I'm going to be in this thing 111 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: for the long haul. 112 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: If Trump's the nominee, will you vote for him? 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: You know, guys, I don't think Trump's going to be 114 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: the nominee, So I don't think we need to worry 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: about that. I think Trump is not going to be 116 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: the nominee. But what I've said, and I said this 117 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: in the first debate, if Donald Trump's convicted of felonies, 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: I could not support a convicted felon for president. 119 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: So who would you vote for? I mean, I mean, 120 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: just honestly, because I understand you can say, well, that's 121 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: a hypothetical, but really the entire presidential campaign is a hypothetical. 122 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: You say, if I'm elected, I'm going to do X 123 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: or I'm going to do why right now, if you 124 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: look at the markets, you know, just gambling markets, look 125 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: at the whatever else. Trump would be favored to be 126 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: the nominee. So if it's Trump versus Biden. Would you 127 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: vote for Biden? Would you not show up and vote? 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: What would your decision be? 129 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: Now? I look, I could not vote for Joe Biden. 130 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: I don't believe Joe Biden is either mentally or philosophically 131 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: competent to remain in the presidency, and so I could 132 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: not vote for Joe Biden. And I'd have to see 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: what my options were at the time. But fellas in 134 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: the end, what we're talking about here are all hypotheticals 135 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: because at this point, you know, eight years ago, Jeff 136 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: Bush was winning New Hampshire and Ben Carson was winning 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: Iowa by ten points. So I'm sorry, you know, I 138 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: just am not going to get involved in talking about 139 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 3: what polling looks like today. You know, those poll questions 140 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: are saying if the election were held today, well, the 141 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: election were held today, are to be shocked because it's 142 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: not being held today. So I'm about talking about what 143 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: matters to this country, It matters to its citizens, and 144 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: I guarantee if polling is at one of those things. 145 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: Understood. You also are running against not only Donald Trump, 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: but also Ron DeSantis and Nicki Haley and Vivike Ramaswami. 147 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Are any of those three people in your mind qualified 148 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to be president of the United States? 149 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: Look, I think both Nicki and Ron are qualified to 150 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: be president. 151 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: You didn't mention Vivike. Why do you think he's not? 152 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Those are the you know, you guys are the top 153 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: five candidates at this point in time. So you think 154 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Nicki and DeSantis both qualified to be president? Not Trump, 155 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: not Vivike? What is it about Vivike that you don't 156 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: think fits the bill? 157 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: I just don't think he's a serious candidate. I don't 158 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: think he's someone who has the type of experience, the 159 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: type of temperament, nor the type of platform that should 160 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. 161 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's say that you think DeSantis and Nicki 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Haley are both qualified to be president. I imagine that 163 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: they would probably say the same about you. I'll ask 164 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: him the next time they're on the show. If you 165 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: had to choose between Nicky Haley and Ron DeSantis right now, 166 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: is the most qualified, which of those two is? 167 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: I think they pretty much have equal qualifications. 168 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great answer. You know, you're a sports guy, governor, 169 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and that is like me asking you That's like me 170 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: saying to you, okay, Patrick Mahomes, or I don't know 171 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: we could pick. Let's say, if Joe Burrow wasn't injured, 172 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: which is a better quarterback. If you have to win 173 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: a game and you say, oh, I think it's a 174 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: dead heat, I don't think I could pick. Or if 175 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I said, hey, I don't know how much of a 176 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: college football you fan you are. 177 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: But if I football? 178 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: All right, So Michigan and Ohio State are playing this weekend, 179 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: right you just game going on in college football? Who's 180 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: gonna win? 181 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: I think Ohio State's goin? All right? 182 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: You didn't say to me, I think it's dead even 183 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: I think it's fifty to fifty. 184 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: No, But I do think that on a qualification basis, 185 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: if you look at their background experience, that Ron and 186 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: Nikki are essentially the same from experience perspective to both 187 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: two term governors of important states. They've had some other 188 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 3: background Ron and Congress, Nikki and the state legislature before that. 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: I think from an experienced perspective, qualifications perspective, they're they're 190 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: essentially even in that regard. I mean, if you an 191 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: honest answer. 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a convenient. Uh, if you believe, 193 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: and I think you do, that Trump shouldn't be the nominee. 194 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: And I think certainly DeSantis and Nicky Haley would agree 195 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: with that too. At what point does there need to 196 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: be a consensus alternative in your mind to Donald Trump, 197 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: whether it's you, DeSantis, Nicky Haley, or maybe even the 198 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: vague what's the timeframe look like? 199 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's gonna happen after the first 200 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: four primaries, after the early primaries, so Iowa, New Hampshire, 201 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: South Carolina, Nevada. I think after those you probably down 202 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: to no more than three candidates, including Donald Trump, and 203 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: maybe two. I just think that's gonna kind of be 204 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: the natural way it will go here, given the way 205 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: the calendar plays out. And let's face it, guys, the 206 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: consolidation in this race has been significantly better than any 207 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: time this century when we didn't have an incumbent. You know, 208 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: at this time eight years ago, in twenty fifteen, we 209 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: had thirteen candidates still in the race. At this point 210 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: in twenty eleven, we had eight candidates still in the race, 211 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: and in two thousand and seven we had nine candidates 212 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: still in the race. So this thing is consolidated very quickly, 213 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: very well. You know, I'm in the last five. This 214 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: is the smallest the field's been really since since the 215 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: turn of the century in two thousand. So I think 216 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: it's consolidated. Well. I think you have, you know, very 217 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: serious people that are available to be voted for. Here. 218 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: I think I'm the best and most experienced person. But 219 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: the voters are going to decide ultimately who our nominee is. 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: But I'm in for the fight as I have been. 221 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: And I think you know, if people had been if 222 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: I'd been listening to the odds makers, you know, six 223 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: months ago, I would have never gotten in the race. 224 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: It certainly they would have never thought that I would 225 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: have been here six months later. But here I am. 226 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: Are you going to be on the stage in Tuscaloosa, 227 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: Alabama speaking of college football the fourth Republican Debate? Have 228 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: you qualified? 229 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, already qualified. We've already passed the eighty thousand owners, 230 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: and we have two national polls at six percent were 231 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: over and we have obviously a number of poles in 232 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: New Hampshire that have us in the teams. 233 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys play tomorrow. They are playing against the Washington Commanders. 234 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: They'll always be the Redskins in my mind, so I 235 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: sometimes mix up the names. Still, yeah you too, all right? 236 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Are the Cowboys in your mind a legitimate Super Bowl 237 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: contender this year? And what happens tomorrow? 238 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: They are a legitimate Super Bowl contender. The NFC has 239 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: really four teams that I think are legitimate contenders. Right 240 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: The Eagles are a legitimate contender, The forty nine Ers 241 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: are a legitimate contender, and I think that the Detroit 242 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: Lyons legitimate contender the way they're playing this year. 243 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: I agree with all of that. By the way, I 244 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: agree with your analysis of the NFC right now. I 245 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: agree with all that. Okay, so Cowboys happen to Yeah, 246 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: they're a contender. 247 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: What happens tomorrow, Cowboys? Cowboys win comfortably tomorrow. I'd say 248 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 3: Cowboys win by seventeen to twenty one points. Tomorrow will 249 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: be another good performance for the Cowboys, and they're gonna 250 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: be getting ready for two big games coming up after this, 251 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: the Seahawks, who are a good team, and then Philadelphia 252 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: will be coming to Dallas and that'll be a big game. 253 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Good team in the AFC is the Kansas City Chiefs. 254 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: Do you think Travis Kelce's performance on the field is 255 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: being negatively impacted by his relationship with Taylor Swift. 256 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: No, I think it's probably positively being impacted a right. 257 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: I think I've never seen I've never seen the guy 258 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: happier in his entire career, So I think he's probably 259 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: doing really well. I think what effected him on Monday 260 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: night was the Eagles were triple teaming him. Yeah, and 261 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: nobody else on the Chiefs can catch a pass. I mean, 262 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: for God's sake, me and everybody else could have caught 263 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: that pass. That about this scanty dropped out the game 264 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. I mean I could have caught it. 265 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: I would I couldn't have gotten that open, but if 266 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: I was that open, I guarantee I would have caught it. 267 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: Last question for you, Governor, we're talking to Chris Christy 268 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: right now on the eve of Thanksgiving, sixtieth anniversary of 269 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: the JFK assassination. Do you think that Lee Harvey Oswald 270 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: fired every shot and that JFK was killed solely by 271 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald in terms of shots fired on that 272 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: day in Dallas. 273 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: No, I don't, and I never have. 274 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: What do you think happened. 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: It was clearly a conspiracy. I don't know amongst whom, 276 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: but there's no doubt in my mind that Lee Harvey 277 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Oswald did not act alone. And when when Oswald yelled 278 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: out a Patsy when he was being arrested, I think 279 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: he was giving us a signal. And I believe Jack 280 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: Ruby was part of the conspiracy. And I think they 281 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: killed Oswell to keep them quiet. 282 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said. I do on 283 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: the on the I should say on the on the 284 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: JFK sixty year anniversary analysis. Now I know, I know 285 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: there's no telling what people are going to tell you. 286 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: I take that there, all right, Governor, enjoy the games tomorrow. 287 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon and I'll maybe see 288 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: you down in Tuscalusa. 289 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on today. Happy Thanksgiving you and 290 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: your family. 291 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Saying to you and yours. That is Governor Chris Christy, 292 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: who will be on the stage, he says, in December 293 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: down on the fourth Republican Debate. We'll take your calls 294 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred two two eight eight two. I want to 295 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: circle back around the call that we got about Margaret 296 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: potentially having a child out of wedlock. A lot of 297 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: reaction to that is Margaret called staff. Have we gotten 298 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: a call from Margaret yet? The ladies in the church group, 299 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: We're not expecting to hear Margaret's out of wedlock JFK story. 300 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: People say money in different ways. 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You heard us 330 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: talking about it with Chris Christy on the potential terror 331 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: attack that is taking place between on the bridge between 332 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: Nagara Falls and Canada, the Rainbow Bridge, which many of 333 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: you probably are familiar with if you have been to 334 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: that area at some point in time. No further updates 335 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: that I have seen so far, other than a reporter 336 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: at Fox News saying two people killed inside of that explosion, 337 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: that the vehicle was loaded with explosives as well. We 338 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: will continue to track the absolute latest with that and 339 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: react to it. 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Invest Wealth 355 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Summit dot Com. 356 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 4: Lady Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 357 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Welcome Back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show Eve of 358 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving edition and we got some breaking news continuing to 359 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: follow the explosion that occurred on the bridge between Canada 360 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: and the United States. If you have not heard anything 361 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: about this within the last hour or so, an explosion 362 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: on the bridge that connects one of the four bridges 363 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: that connects Canada and the United States and the vicinity 364 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: of Niagara Falls. And there has been a report that 365 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: there were two individuals in that vehicle that had exploded, 366 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: that it was filled with explosives as well, and now 367 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: they may be looking for an additional vehicle. This was 368 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: just on Fox News. Listen. 369 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 5: What we're checking in on right now is getting from 370 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 5: sources who are on the ground that they're looking for 371 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 5: a second car possibly involved. So that plays into this 372 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 5: ongoing search in the pulmonary stages at this point, with 373 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 5: also trying to shut down all the bridges and evacuate 374 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 5: the government buildings in and around Buffalo and there near 375 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: the Canadian border, so as they continue to look for 376 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 5: what they say, according to these sources, is a second 377 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 5: car possibly involved at this time. 378 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Many of you obviously listening in New York right now, 379 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: and there has been a warning that was already out 380 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: that there was intelligence suggesting that a potential terror attack 381 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: in New York may be a foot may have been planned, 382 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: and now this explosion, the allegation that two people in 383 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: that car dead and now potentially another car involved. We 384 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: will continue to update you. I'm sure that Sean Hannity's 385 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: show will do as well and everybody else that is 386 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: going to be on this network and these different radio 387 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: stations all over the country. We're joined now. Early in 388 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: the show, you may have heard me talking about the 389 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: fact that Donald Trump has opened up the biggest lead 390 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: of his political career in the president RaSE right now, 391 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: comparing it not only with what happened in twenty fifteen 392 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: at this point in the political calendar, but also twenty nineteen. 393 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: And we're joined now by Tom Bevan, who does incredible work, 394 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: fantastic work at a website that I encourage you guys 395 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: to check out regularly for objective data on a variety 396 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: of different political situations and stories and data and polling. 397 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: Is what I love it for, is the polling the most. 398 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: And Tom joins us now we're sending messages back and forth. 399 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that characterization that never in Donald 400 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Trump's political career has he been in better position to 401 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: win the presidency from a polling perspective than what is 402 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: occurring right now. 403 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's right. And thanks for having me 404 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 6: on Clean and Happy Thanksgiving. I appreciate speaking with you. Yeah. Look, 405 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 6: I mean the data is pretty clear, and it's not 406 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: just that he's ahead in these polls, because obviously polls 407 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 6: can be wrong, and pulls that are a year out 408 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 6: from the election, right, things can change, and certainly that's 409 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 6: what Democrats are pointing to some of the polls that 410 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 6: showed you know, Mitt Romney leading Barack Obama. But what's 411 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 6: interesting about the comparison between eight years ago and four 412 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 6: years ago to the day and today is that during 413 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, that entire twenty fifteen twenty sixteen campaign, and 414 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 6: during twenty nineteen and twenty twenty that entire campaign, Donald 415 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 6: Trump never got above forty six percent support, never, not once, 416 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 6: And right now he's at over forty seven percent. And 417 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 6: so you know, that shows that he is winning more 418 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: support now than he ever has in the past, and 419 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 6: I think leads us to the conclusion that, yeah, he's 420 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 6: in a stronger position than he's been in a two 421 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 6: way race in the last in the last two cycles, you. 422 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Know what's also interesting that jumped out to me about 423 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: the data that you cited and encourage people to go 424 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: follow Tom and you can see this data for yourself. 425 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen Hillary Hillary is up, I believe a little 426 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: bit over four per twenty nineteen, Biden is up over 427 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: nine percent. If I'm not mistaken in actuality, If you 428 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: look at the data from twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen, 429 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Trump was undervalued in those polls relative to what ended 430 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: up happening in the actual election. Hillary wins by a 431 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: round two point one in the popular vote in fifteen, 432 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: Biden ends up winning by only a couple of points 433 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen. According to that data, if Trump is up 434 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and the trend lines actually were 435 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: the same as twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen, he would 436 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: actually have a bigger lead than even the polls are 437 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: reflecting right now. They've tried to adjust the methodology of 438 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: the polls after swinging and missing some, but I do 439 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: think that's intriguing. If anything, in twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen, 440 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: the polls that you're citing one year out from election 441 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: day actually under reported where Trump ended up being in 442 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: both of those elections. 443 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 6: That's right, And that's one of the things that you know, 444 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 6: people had specklated on was this shy Trump effect, right, 445 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 6: the people that when when polsters called people that they 446 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 6: wouldn't tell the polsters, especially if it was a live 447 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 6: person right asking the questions, that they were going to 448 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 6: vote for Donald Trump, and then ended up coming out 449 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 6: and supporting him more than the polls showed. And we 450 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 6: saw that in particular, and I mean this was a 451 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 6: phenomenon that really appeared in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan 452 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 6: where the polls didn't have him they had him close. 453 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 6: A couple of polls had him close, but for the 454 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 6: most part in Wisconsin obviously, where Hillary Clinton did doing 455 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 6: a campaign because she thought she had that state in 456 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 6: the bag in twenty sixteen. You know, are we in 457 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 6: a different environment where where people are actually not afraid 458 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 6: to tell polsters that they're going to vote for Donald Trump. 459 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 6: I mean, it could be that this is just these 460 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 6: poles are actually more reflective, but maybe not. I mean, 461 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 6: that's something that. 462 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: We don't really know. 463 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 6: But what we do know is eventually before is that 464 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 6: he's got more support right now than he's ever had 465 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 6: in the last two elections according to our Real Clear 466 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 6: Politics average, and again this is a you know, we 467 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 6: take the average of the polls that are in the 468 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 6: field during a given point in time. And right now 469 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 6: we're talking about thirteen polls that have been taken over 470 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 6: the last three weeks, so basically every poll in the 471 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 6: month of November. You average them all together, and you've 472 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 6: got Donald Trump at forty seven point two percent, and 473 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 6: that is his high water mark. 474 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: Some people out there say, oh, this is all a 475 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: rig job. Right There are people listening to us right 476 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: now saying this is all designed to make Trump look 477 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: stronger than he actually is. This is a syop. You 478 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: are not a partisan, I don't think when it comes 479 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: to analyzing polls. What would you say to anyone out 480 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: there who says this is made up? They want Trump 481 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: to be the nominee, and then as soon as he's 482 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: the nominee, the polls will flip, they'll destroy him. In 483 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: other words, this isn't real. How would you respond to that, Well. 484 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 6: I mean, it would have to be a massive conspiracy 485 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 6: among all of the polsters, you know, I mean literally, 486 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 6: I think Biden's only leading in two of the thirteen 487 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 6: polls that I mentioned in the month of November, so 488 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: every polster would have to be in on it, including 489 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 6: some polsters that are viewed as being you know, not 490 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 6: left leaning, centrist, or even some right leaning polsters. So 491 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 6: I just don't buy it. And the other thing too, 492 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: is I mean, the data shows, for example, that Nicky 493 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 6: Haley runs better against Biden in a general election setting 494 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 6: than Trump does, and she's had you know, the last 495 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 6: Box poll had her up something like eleven points. I mean, 496 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 6: she's actually a stronger general election candidate. So you know, 497 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 6: in that sense, you could make the opposite argument that 498 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 6: the polls show that she would be the better general 499 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 6: election candidate than Donald Trump. 500 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: So I just don't buy it. 501 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I think there's just too much evidence, too 502 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 6: much data that shows basically the same thing. And that's 503 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: just that Donald Trump is performing pretty well in a 504 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 6: general election setting, certainly better than I think a lot 505 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 6: of people expected him to at this point. Certainly a 506 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 6: guy like Ronda Santis who's out there trying to make 507 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 6: the case that he's a or you know, better general 508 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: election candidate, the data doesn't support that. It's been a 509 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 6: tough sell for him, given that Trump has been pulling 510 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 6: as well as he has against Biden in the general 511 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 6: election setting. 512 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: My thesis on this is that there's actually not going 513 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: to be that much movement in the polling because most 514 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: people know what they think of Trump and Biden already. 515 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: In other words, there is no undefined candidate in this race. 516 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: They're both incumbent presidents in the event that that's the matchup, 517 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: and that what's hurting Biden is both his age and 518 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: the fact that in twenty twenty they were able to 519 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: run him as the empty vessel opposed to Trump that 520 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: many people could just put their hopes and aspirations in. 521 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Now those hopes and aspirations, to a large degree, have 522 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: not been validated in terms of returning the nation to 523 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: normalcy or making things feel way better. And now Biden 524 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: is being judged not on Trump as the anti Trump, 525 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: but also on himself. Do you buy that thesis of 526 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: what we're seeing eleven months out. 527 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's generally correct. I mean, these are 528 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 6: two absolute known quantities. There's no question about that. And 529 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 6: there was a Wall Street jurnal Polly came out a 530 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 6: little while ago. I mean, Trump is benefiting from not 531 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 6: being in office, right People look back on his time 532 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 6: now and view it more favorably. They think the economy 533 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 6: was better. They actually think he has more of a 534 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 6: vision leading the country forward than Biden does right now. 535 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 6: They think he has a better record of accomplishment than 536 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 6: Biden does right now, and so he is benefiting from 537 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 6: being out of office. But you're right, I mean this 538 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: election is going to come down to and again the 539 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 6: data supports the idea that generally speaking, most voters, majority 540 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 6: of voters, certainly majority of Democrats, independents, don't want to 541 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 6: see Trump versus Biden. Right, this is an election that 542 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 6: nobody really wants. So it's going to come down to 543 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 6: not the partisans on either side, but the double haters, right, 544 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 6: the people who don't like either candidate. In some ways, 545 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 6: that's a mirror image of what in twenty sixteen. People 546 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 6: they didn't like Donald Trump is Favorable ratings were pretty bad, 547 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 6: but they really really didn't like Hillary Clinton and they 548 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 6: wouldn't vote for and that ended up being the difference. 549 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 6: I think we're going to see a similar dynamic. I 550 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 6: agree with you. I think I think a lot of 551 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 6: people are locked in. But for those people who really 552 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 6: don't like either candidate, if it comes down to this 553 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 6: is the choice they have to choose from the lesser 554 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 6: of two evils. You know which way are they going 555 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 6: to go? And in that instance, I think Trump might 556 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 6: actually win more of those a majority of those voters, 557 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 6: just because of the things that you mentioned. Biden's in 558 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 6: office things aren't great. His age is a clear issue 559 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 6: for a lot of voters, not just not just independence 560 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 6: and Republicans, and so for those reasons, I think Trump 561 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: probably has the edge, all right. 562 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: So that makes me a final question for you, Tom 563 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: bebn Ad real clear politics, contextualizing where we are not 564 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: only in today's polling, but based on twenty fifteen and 565 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. If I gave you ten thousand dollars and 566 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: I said you have to wager it on either Trump 567 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: or Biden, you don't get to go either other direction. 568 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like you'd put the ten grand on Trump. 569 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 6: I would have to just based on where the data stands. Again, 570 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 6: these are national polls. We don't have national elections. We 571 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 6: have it's going to come down to the same eight 572 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 6: battleground states, right, and we all know what they are. 573 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 6: And I think the one thing that you can say though, 574 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 6: is Democrats have proven over the last couple of cycles 575 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 6: that they have done a better job and do a 576 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 6: better job of finding their voters and getting those votes, 577 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 6: you know what, ballot harvesting and all of those things, 578 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 6: utilizing every tool at their disposal to get those ballots counted. 579 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 6: And Republicans have some catching up to do, and the 580 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 6: question is whether they will be good enough at that 581 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 6: in those eight states of the matter to make the difference. 582 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, based on where the data is 583 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 6: right now, I'd have to I would have to have 584 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 6: done on Trump if that was my that was my 585 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 6: only choice. 586 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: And I guess I said last question, do you think 587 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: Biden will actually be the nominee when you look at 588 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: this polling or do you think Democrats are going to 589 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: have a break the glass moment and be like, we 590 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: got to get the fire extinguisher out and put out 591 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: this fire. Go somewhere New. 592 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I go back and forth on that. 593 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 6: I mean, it's in some sense it's really hard to 594 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 6: see how that's going to happen, how it would be engineered, 595 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: like what the mechanics of that would be, and how 596 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 6: badly it would hurt the Democratic Party, especially if it's 597 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 6: not Kamala Harris. I mean that would absolutely rip the 598 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 6: Democratic Party apart, cause African American base to just absolutely, 599 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: you know, go away. They can't afford that. On the 600 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 6: other hand, when you see Biden sometimes and you see 601 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 6: some of these numbers, and you see some of the 602 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 6: things that he you know, on stage, or the things 603 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 6: that he says and does, I think to myself, there's 604 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 6: no way they can let him be the nominee. So 605 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 6: I go back and forth on that, and I think 606 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 6: it's going to be really interesting. I think there will 607 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 6: be a break class moment. The question is whether whether 608 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 6: they're able to get it done or not, and I'm 609 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 6: not sure of that. 610 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: He does fantastic work. Tom Bevan at Tom Bevin RCP 611 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 1: on Twitter, co founder president of Real Clear Politics. Appreciate 612 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: you making the time on this eve of the holiday. 613 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: Up the good work on the site. 614 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 6: Thanks play, I appreciate it. Happy Thanksgiving. 615 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well. That's Tom 616 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Bevin kind of giving you a snapshot. I started off 617 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: the show talking about the data that he had shared, 618 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: and I do think it's incredibly interesting to contextualize not 619 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: only in twenty twenty three, but comparing it with Trump's 620 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and twenty nineteen numbers. 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I believe 640 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: there is no official update on what is going on 641 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: in Buffalo any more than is already out there for 642 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: those of you just getting into your cars right now. 643 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: There is a report that a terror attack was planned 644 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: on Buffalo and that potentially two terrorists have died in 645 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: an explosion in a vehicle that was filled with explosives. 646 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: They are evidently looking for another car that might be involved. 647 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: All of this breaking in the last hour. We've been 648 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: trying to keep you updated on all of that as 649 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: we continue to go through this again breaking news story. 650 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: Rainbow Bridge described as a car explosion. Reports from Fox 651 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: News that two people are dead that were inside that vehicle. 652 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: I am just seeing right now as I am talking 653 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: to all of you footage of that explosion taking place 654 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: on the bridge, substantial sized explosion as you well imagine, 655 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: and the FBI saying that they are potentially looking for 656 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: another vehicle that might have been involved in this potential 657 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: terror attack. So I wanted to update you all on 658 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: that and let me take a couple of calls. Appreciate 659 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: all of you. I just want to say, also on 660 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: behalf of Buck will be back on Monday, and everyone 661 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: who works on this show, we are incredibly thankful every 662 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: single day for the incredible privilege to be able to 663 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: speak with all of you about the most important issues 664 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: that are going on every day. And both Buck and 665 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: myself are very thankful to be able to carry on 666 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: the legacy of Rush Limbaugh and the audience that he 667 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: built to the best of our ability every single day. 668 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: So thank you for allowing us to spend time with 669 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: you over these past two or three years, and years 670 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: and years still to come into the future. I am 671 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: very thankful for that. I am thankful for all of you, 672 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: and I hope that you all have fabulous thanksgivings with 673 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: your family. Shashana from Lakewood Ranch, Florida, appreciate your call. 674 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 7: Yes, I just wanted to tell you that my parents 675 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 7: are Holocaust survivors, so that means me, my sister, my 676 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 7: brother are second generation. And all of these people who 677 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 7: have comments about Trump and Hitler are ignorant and idiots. 678 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 7: They don't know what they're talking about. They're stupid and 679 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 7: it must be complete CNN watchers and listeners that believe 680 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 7: this garbage. They would have no doubt that Trump is 681 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 7: pro Israel, will do everything to help Israel and would 682 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 7: never ever remove the sanctions that were on Iran or 683 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 7: Iraq or anybody. 684 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for the call. I want to 685 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: get Daryl in really quickly. You can criticize Trump for 686 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: a lot. The idea that he's Hitler is so flagrantly 687 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: absurd only far left wingers could believe it. Daryl really quick, 688 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: twenty seconds. 689 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 8: Cray, I just want to let you know you are 690 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 8: spot on about being an independent thinker and not being. 691 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: A sheep and following a herd. 692 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 8: My personal experience, I'll be fifty seven next month, had 693 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 8: COVID in the hospital for two weeks two years ago. 694 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 8: Everyone kept seeing get the jab get the Jabi. None 695 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 8: of my immediate family got it, myself included, just like you. 696 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 8: Now I have natural immunity. 697 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: So thank you, Thank you for the call. Have great thanksgiving. 698 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: Trust your instincts. They rarely lead you. 699 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 4: Astray, Sleeve, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines 700 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 4: of truth.