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Speaker 1: A yeah, defensive tackle. Like we're trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: But he's you know, he's an interesting player to work

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Speaker 1: with and a good player to work with. Works hard, smart, Um,

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Speaker 1: as you said, it's played outside linebacker at the defensive end,

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. Um, So he's you know, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: really done a lot in our defense more Spen Scott

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Speaker 1: a team and so forth on drills, but um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he works hard, he's smart, he picks things up. He's

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Speaker 1: able to do Um has done and is able to

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Speaker 1: do different things for us. So, um, we'll see how

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Speaker 1: it goes. But it's he's an interesting guy. We don't

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Speaker 1: really have anybody like him, um from a skill set

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Speaker 1: figure it out a little bit. But he's he gets

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Speaker 1: better every day, so keep working, goes. I don't Josh

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Speaker 1: Jordan's caught all eight of his targets past few games.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen gonna come a long way to see.

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Speaker 1: Terms of precision timing with Tom Brady, I think it's

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Speaker 1: gotten better each week going all over back to the

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Speaker 1: first week. Um, he was a Detroit week he came here,

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Speaker 1: Um didn't play it, so my whatever it was. So

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Speaker 1: you know, each week just a little bit more, a

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Speaker 1: little Each team's different, they play, their coverage is a technique,

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Speaker 1: or our game plan varies a little bit from week

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Speaker 1: to week. So there are always new things to work on,

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Speaker 1: new things to develop. But he's done a good job

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Speaker 1: of all that and the things that have been somewhat

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Speaker 1: repetitive that have come back over time. He's obviously multiple

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Speaker 1: reps and the timing on those of course has gotten

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Speaker 1: better or both him and Tom you know the rest

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Speaker 1: of the offense. But there's new stuff every week. Certainly

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Speaker 1: Miami's a lot different than Minnesota or the Jets or Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's just each week it's a new challenge,

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Speaker 1: all right. See in Miami,