WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 119: We Touched Grass

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, friends, Welcome to the Happy half Hour, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>happier than ever because we were actually on a football

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<v Speaker 1>field this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen grass, we touched grass. As the kids say.

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<v Speaker 3>We probably all needed to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to be out there on a football field

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<v Speaker 1>and remind yourself that this is a football product that

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<v Speaker 1>we spent so much time talking about. Because for so

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<v Speaker 1>much of the off season, when you're at the combine

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<v Speaker 1>and doing free agency and everything else, this feels like

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<v Speaker 1>an abstract concept. But then you walk out there in

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<v Speaker 1>the sunshine and the blue skies and Dave Canalysis, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>jumping around, twirling his whistle and having a big old time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, Okay, yes, this is a football team we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here, an actual tangible product. And they were tangible. Indeed, yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>weren't they.

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<v Speaker 4>They were, They were in fact almost tangible completely as

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<v Speaker 4>a team. Only three players not here. That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 4>good attendance for the first day of voluntary mini camp

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<v Speaker 4>in April.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Dave Canals will take that for his first

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<v Speaker 4>time as a head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>And these things are voluntary, and the thing about attendance

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<v Speaker 1>this time of year is you never know what's go

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<v Speaker 1>guy's got going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people have things.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing before you know, they realized they were coming to

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<v Speaker 1>a team where there's a you know, voluntary mini camp

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<v Speaker 1>on this particular weekend, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're so a testament of It's not a commentary

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<v Speaker 4>on those who weren't here, but we're so a testament

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<v Speaker 4>to those who were.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, and I think there was an energy about the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of that is coming from Dave Canalis himself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of his calling card. It feels like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first word anybody says when they're asked about Dave Canalis.

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<v Speaker 1>They talk about that energy.

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<v Speaker 4>So Deonta n did you hear Deonta Johnson yesterday what

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<v Speaker 4>he said?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>That was classic.

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<v Speaker 4>He said it was so much energy. He didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>realize he was the head coach until after dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered about that, and I kind of I thought

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<v Speaker 1>to myself when Deontay said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you think he was?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he think he was the writer for the website?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he think he was podcast Matt? Did he think

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<v Speaker 1>he was Yeah? I don't know what, but you know he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was, Yeah, somebody they just brought along to drive the car, like, yeah, somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the young guy, he's the coach's son, or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I would imagine he did the bulk of the talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting to me though, because when you see

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<v Speaker 1>Dave for the first time doing Dave things out on

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<v Speaker 1>the football field, it's new to us, right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was careful in knocking around yesterday talking to people about

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<v Speaker 1>Dave's first day on the job, basically, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I asked his assistant, Jessica Beckinstein, I said, is this

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<v Speaker 1>more amped up? And she was like, no, the usual amount,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just who he is. And we're still

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<v Speaker 1>getting used to Dave and learning Dave's patterns and everything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But some people get up for special occasions,

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<v Speaker 1>but Dave kind of gets up to a certain caffeinated

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<v Speaker 1>peak and then stays there for hours and hours at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. So I respect the fact I also am

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<v Speaker 1>mourning people. I do not get here at four forty

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<v Speaker 1>five in the morning the way Dave Canalis does. But

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<v Speaker 1>the alarm goes off not long after that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>begin the day bringing you the very best product we

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<v Speaker 1>can here at Panthers dot Com. But It was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see it all out there in practice because we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about what it looks like. We can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Deontay Johnson, we can talk about Robert Hunt, Damien Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Corbett moving to center. But when you lay eyes

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<v Speaker 1>on him and you see it out there in the flesh.

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<v Speaker 3>And you see all of them together.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's like, Okay, now you see the start of

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<v Speaker 1>this plan coming together. Now you see what it's beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to look like, and realize what they've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>all off season.

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<v Speaker 2>As you stood there.

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<v Speaker 1>Cassidy, watching this thing kind of unfold brand new for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, what was the first thing that jumped

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<v Speaker 1>out at you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Jadavian Cloney.

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<v Speaker 4>That's also just because he's large and he was right

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<v Speaker 4>there near us. He was also the only outside linebacker

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<v Speaker 4>really going through jail because he was the only one

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<v Speaker 4>that was here and healthy and able to do so.

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<v Speaker 4>But you almost got the sense too that if push

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<v Speaker 4>came to show, Ja, Davi and Cloinney could take care

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<v Speaker 4>of outside linebacker for this team by single hatedly.

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<v Speaker 3>Even in his thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>He was definitely moving around well, and he seems you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about Dave's energy. He's got a little rejuvenated

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<v Speaker 1>vibe about right. We noticed that when he came in

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<v Speaker 1>right after signing and we were talking to him and

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<v Speaker 1>filming some stuff for the website, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You could tell he was excited. You could tell he

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<v Speaker 2>felt it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I get the sense that last year was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a boost for him because after so long that

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of expectations when you're a number one pick

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bears down on you and you wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>you're ever going to get back to being that guy again.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year in Baltimore, not in a Hatch Sackson regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>another one in the playoffs. He was that guy again

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and so that's why he was such a

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<v Speaker 1>central component of the work they were doing defensively. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's still, you know, along those lines when you look

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<v Speaker 1>out there with DJ Wadham still kind of working his

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<v Speaker 1>way back from an injury last year. It's an incomplete

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<v Speaker 1>group right now on defense, and it's also brand new

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<v Speaker 1>because we got condition to seeing certain things over the

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<v Speaker 1>tail end of last year. And then you look out

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<v Speaker 1>on the field and there's a Sean Robinson and he's new.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Josie Jewel and he's new, and he's next to

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<v Speaker 1>Shaq Thompson, who's not new but wasn't out there a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot last year. And then there's Jadavia, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's Dane Jackson, and then there's j Fuller in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>and you realize it's a brand new group.

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<v Speaker 4>And Nick Scott, which I know is technically a def

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<v Speaker 4>it's a back, but it was really brought in for

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<v Speaker 4>his special team's prowess. And at one point they were

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<v Speaker 4>running a punt drill and you remember I even like

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<v Speaker 4>said to you, like, who is that calling the play? Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>And we looked out there and it was Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's number twenty one. You're a new personal protector, Nick Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that's gonna be one of those hidden wrinkles

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of this year. Nick Scott, who has

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<v Speaker 1>a career reception from Johnny Hecker. So we are, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we are definitely looking for to putting that one into play.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I looked out there and again this was

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<v Speaker 1>such a topic for so much of the conversation, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you see that interior offensive line together, you a

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<v Speaker 1>understand Austin Corbett is not a small man, right Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Corbett is a large human being by any metric that

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<v Speaker 1>mortals have available to them. When you see Damian Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>and Robert Hunt on either side of him, it's like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's different. Yeah, those two guys are not like the

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<v Speaker 1>one in the middle, and Austin is merely huge and

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<v Speaker 1>they are gigantic and that is on purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>Kids, And to kind of go along with that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we heard from both Canalis and a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>Bryce yesterday too talking about how yesterday was they were

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<v Speaker 4>going back down to the bear basics with both Bryce

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<v Speaker 4>and Andy Dalton of you know, how to take your

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback stance and to see around these large linemen, which

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<v Speaker 4>is is going to be something that Canalis has talked about,

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be something he has to work with

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<v Speaker 4>with Bryce because he is on the what did he

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<v Speaker 4>call it, vertically challenged or height challenged or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not tall, not tall, and now.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got these huge guys, and so it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>even learning something as basic as what stance to get

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<v Speaker 4>in to see the whole field from that pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, And so he's he's very very detailed.

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<v Speaker 4>And Bryce got the baptism by fire in that yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>kind of going back to quarterback school as.

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<v Speaker 1>They Yeah, I like the fact that Dave called it

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback school, and they are beginning. They're making no assumptions

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<v Speaker 1>about these people basically. I mean, he talked about Will Harridser,

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks coach, teaching Andy Dalton how to get into

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<v Speaker 1>a stance properly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure Andy's.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinking, thanks, I've been doing this for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that Andy's a pro, He's here for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But and also has great hair, as Dave Canal has

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<v Speaker 1>helpfully pointed out, Wow, like that best.

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<v Speaker 3>Hair in the league other than Patrick Mahoonmes. But Mahomes isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Red, right, Yeah, so the red hair pushes it over

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<v Speaker 1>the top. But it's interesting to see, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the way Dave's been putting this thing

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<v Speaker 1>together in terms of the on field product. He's being

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<v Speaker 1>very intentional. He's starting at the beginning, making no assumptions

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<v Speaker 1>and basically creating a brand new product. We get caught

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<v Speaker 1>talking about things in the context of what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's this is a brand new product.

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<v Speaker 1>This is completely different, and Bryce Bright it's easy for

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce to say, Hey, I'm focused on this year. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to spend any time thing about last year because

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<v Speaker 1>last year was a disaster for everybody that was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in it. So I understand not wanting to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is going to be a brand new product,

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<v Speaker 1>so from new receivers in new spots, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people are talking about Deontay Johnson's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first read on almost every play. So far, that group

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<v Speaker 1>is still very much under construction and is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to change in the next four or five days.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see how all that kind of goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was inve to kind of see the way

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<v Speaker 1>they're approaching everything on the field from a very building block,

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<v Speaker 1>very step one sort of standpoint. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>good to see that group on the field together as

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<v Speaker 1>a unit after we've been talking about them all last season.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you a question, and really this is

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<v Speaker 4>a question for Dave Canalis, but I'm going to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Canallis and I have many things in common besides

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we're both mourning people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm sure you're cafeated. You have to be if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to get up that early.

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<v Speaker 2>See like like Dave Canalis and Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to work out him before this podcast. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as you know, as.

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<v Speaker 3>Far as who's going to tell you you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong, exactly nobody. There are pictures of me working out

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyways, at any rate, So Canalis yesterday talked about how

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<v Speaker 4>this was the same quarterback school that he's put all

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<v Speaker 4>of his quarterbacks through. Russell Wilson, Gino, Smith, Baker Mayfield.

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<v Speaker 4>We've seen what became of that, you know, consistently three

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<v Speaker 4>of their like all three quarterbacks had their best career

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<v Speaker 4>seasons or with Russell one of his second best.

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<v Speaker 3>But still.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw like five Pro Bowls, Comeback Player of the

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<v Speaker 4>Year for Gino, a Comeback Player of the Year nomination

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<v Speaker 4>for Baker, and so we've seen it have success. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you think it will be those But here's what is

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<v Speaker 4>the difference between those three guys and Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all more established at the time he's getting to them.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's my question. Do you think it will be

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<v Speaker 4>easier or more difficult to take a second year quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>through this quote unquote quarterback school or would it have

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<v Speaker 4>been because with an established player on one hand, they're

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<v Speaker 4>already they already have habits and it's probably harder to

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<v Speaker 4>break them of those. But on the second hand, they

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<v Speaker 4>already have seen a lot of NFL defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the one thing I know about Bryce I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of picked up from. And this is not anything anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily said. It's just from watching him and observing Rice

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<v Speaker 1>ain't scared to learn, He ain't scared to put in

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<v Speaker 1>the work to improve on things. I mean, he's constantly

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<v Speaker 1>asking for feedback. He's talking to coaches on the side

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<v Speaker 1>and afterward about you know, how he can do different things.

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<v Speaker 1>That was last year and that's going through this year.

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<v Speaker 1>When I talked to him the other day, he was

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<v Speaker 1>very clear about wanting to continue to do that work,

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to continue to improve on the football stuff. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he also talked about wanting to improve as a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's going to be a twofold thing

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<v Speaker 1>for Canalis. I mean, along those lines. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same background that Russ Gino, Baker and those guys

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<v Speaker 1>all had when they got to this job. But he

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<v Speaker 1>is still almost an unshaped piece of clay, and from

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<v Speaker 1>the standpoint of Dave Canalis, so he gets to work

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<v Speaker 1>with something fresh, and I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how that turns out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I did have one more observation for mystery at me,

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<v Speaker 4>probably move on and you could speak to this maybe

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<v Speaker 4>even a little bit more, because you saw these guys

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<v Speaker 4>last year before the season started. By the time I

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<v Speaker 4>cut to them, there was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of they were broken.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just.

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<v Speaker 4>Weighed down, yes, broken and just you know, kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>let's just get this over with. Obviously, that was a

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<v Speaker 4>much different vibe yesterday, even like we saw Bryce bounce

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<v Speaker 4>in there and make jokes about basketball and hold his

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<v Speaker 4>own little uh press conference vice versa, Yeah, asking everybody

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<v Speaker 4>all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Rolls up and starts asking us questions, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys do in the off season?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what else does your job do?

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<v Speaker 4>But there was one unit that kind of stood out

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<v Speaker 4>to me, and that was the running back unit and

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of just how they were handling themselves and

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<v Speaker 4>their vibe, and especially with Cuba Hubbard and one, it

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of fun to just see he and Bernie

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<v Speaker 4>parmeally have kind of already established their little like side show,

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<v Speaker 4>like ribbing each other and kind of staying on each

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<v Speaker 4>other but in a fun way. And but then also

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<v Speaker 4>every time Parmally would teach something, Cuba would then turn

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<v Speaker 4>around and make sure the other guys had it and

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<v Speaker 4>kind of go over it again with him while Parmally

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<v Speaker 4>got something set up, which seems like very very much

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<v Speaker 4>he's embracing. Okay, this is who I have to be

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<v Speaker 4>in this unit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the really understated things about last year,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was easy for things to slip under the

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<v Speaker 1>radar with the way he last year went. But for

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba Hubbard to start the years of backup and end

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<v Speaker 1>up running for nine hundred yards and catching thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>balls for a team that was always always behind is

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<v Speaker 1>a minor miracle for a couple of reasons. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>it was hard for them to run because they were

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<v Speaker 1>always behind. And number two, Cuba was not a natural

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<v Speaker 1>catcher of the football last year, and through the sheer

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<v Speaker 1>force of repetition and hard work, he has turned himself

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<v Speaker 1>into a competent pass catcher. So I've got all the

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<v Speaker 1>respect in the world for the job Cuba's done kind

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<v Speaker 1>of growing into this role and it's not as if

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<v Speaker 1>he's there just because Miles Sanders didn't have the year.

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<v Speaker 1>People thought he was going to have last year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>earned this. He has made this his own and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of staked out that area as the lead back in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation. So I'm encouraged to see what Cuba's done,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's been impressive. That's what you want

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<v Speaker 1>out of fourth round picks, That's what you want out

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<v Speaker 1>of anybody, is take the stuff you're bad at, get

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<v Speaker 1>better at it, improve, keep working.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think, if properly used behind this offensive line,

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<v Speaker 4>could Chuba Hubber be a top ten back in this league?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the impression that this is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit committee based. I don't think Cuba

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<v Speaker 1>is so far and away, you know, physically dominant, that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be that guy. He's not ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a three hundred carry a year guy or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. But I think he is absolutely a

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<v Speaker 1>quality starter in the league. I mean, we've shown he's

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<v Speaker 1>shown that he's got long speed. Every now and then

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<v Speaker 1>he can break one. He's shown over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years that he's a capable interior runner. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to put a sea on what he might

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<v Speaker 1>or might not be but I'm just impressed with how

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<v Speaker 1>far he's come in three years so far in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of making that making that.

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<v Speaker 2>Job his own next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Exciting to watch, no doubt, no doubt, And we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>more to watch today when we go out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We are coming to you live on a taped basis.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one of those old sitcoms taped live in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a studio audience, and there is your dated

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture reference for today that nobody else in this

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<v Speaker 1>room gets.

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<v Speaker 3>The sitcoms I used to watch when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>We're always filmed in.

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<v Speaker 2>Front of I'll accept that.

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<v Speaker 4>So friends, everybody loves Raymond.

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<v Speaker 3>Family matters.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we will get back on the field here

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit later on this morning. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we will sit around all day on Thursday waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's gonna be exactly what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think we will probably just spend our time

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Taylor Swift records over and over something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be excited Orchard beat writers departments.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have so much time is that you can go

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<v Speaker 4>through all thirty one songs once and then we can

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<v Speaker 4>go through them again. As I give you the background

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<v Speaker 4>of each song.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is going to be like after a football

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<v Speaker 1>game when the coach says, well, I got to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the film before I can break that down.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I've done the film study.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>You're prepared for this. You're a swiftie.

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<v Speaker 4>We are going to be sitting in literature class as

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<v Speaker 4>we go through each song.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be interesting to me because I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about this and I kind of I lobbed

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<v Speaker 1>a grenade in the foxhole and ran with some of

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<v Speaker 1>the criticism of Taylor Swift's album the other day. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize what a passionate defense I was going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be like somebody rolling up on me and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Darren, I think bo'j Angle's kind of overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize what I was starting. But yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go on and on about this game.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take fifteen seconds because I can't go on all

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<v Speaker 4>but I'll take fifteen seconds to say this. I have

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<v Speaker 4>no problem with criticism of the work. Everybody has their

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<v Speaker 4>own taste in music, as she's done this across like

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<v Speaker 4>four different genres now, so it's not gonna be for

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<v Speaker 4>everybody all the time. I do think this album was

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<v Speaker 4>more for the fans than that. It's not for the

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<v Speaker 4>Grammys or the critics, but whatever. But my issue with

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<v Speaker 4>like the review that you sent me is more so

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<v Speaker 4>about the person than the music. And it's like, let's

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<v Speaker 4>just review the music. If this is what we're doing,

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<v Speaker 4>let's just review the music, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I keep that short.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One of the things that's interesting to me about

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift. And I don't know a few people are

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<v Speaker 1>aware of this, but I am an older person. I

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<v Speaker 1>am aware of her presence. I am not very familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with her work.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, are probably are more than you realize.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it and it's been like background music, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware of it in a general sense. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about this person other than she's had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of boyfriends and a lot of relationships and

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<v Speaker 1>most of them in poorly well.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, wouldn't you be able to say that about

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<v Speaker 4>all of your relationships except the ones that are a success.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just in general, not you, that's any person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thank god there's no Daring Gaant Tortured Poets album.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine there could be. I'm sure there are some stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, thank you, this would be a very different

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with a very different clientele.

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<v Speaker 2>Point many many were.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably heard a song and not realize it because she

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<v Speaker 4>writes a lot of songs that other people record.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair, and we'll have a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 1>get into that while we wait and wait and wait. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't, I mean, And again, that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>way this week is because we're over here on football

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's going to be that you know, waiting

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<v Speaker 1>period where nothing's going on, but we're anticipating a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff and we do have some cool stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>will encourage you to stay tuned to Panthers dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the entire week because we've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff lined up. And once we get to Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>after we wait through Thursday and watching thirty two teams

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<v Speaker 1>make picks and do their thing and have fun and

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<v Speaker 1>introduce new people, then the Carolina Panthers are on the

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<v Speaker 1>clock from about eleven o'clock Thursday nine until seven o'clock Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>when this thing kicks off.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have a lot of time to break down what

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<v Speaker 2>could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you look at this Sin Cassidy you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>like me and have looked at a million mock drafts

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<v Speaker 1>and point you're mock drafted out.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we'll see a receiver early on.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they stay pad at thirty three and thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they would have I that's not to say

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<v Speaker 4>that they couldn't trade up and or trade back, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think if they do that, those will be phone

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<v Speaker 4>calls coming from outside the building. I don't think Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Morgan's making those calls to try to trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense, Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the sense from being around Dan, watching Dan

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of the years that Dan's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little tighter with his resources. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure he's got those picks, and I think there

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<v Speaker 1>is a value, you know, again not ideal, not having

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<v Speaker 1>a first round pick, but thirty three and thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>gives you two of the top forty, and I think

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>he kind of wants to exercise those picks. He wants

0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to add people of that kind of quality to this roster.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if somebody wants to call, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you listen. But just over the course of the years,

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<v Speaker 1>there hasn't been terribly much value in that that pick's

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<v Speaker 1>only been traded three times in the last twenty five drafts.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically, yeah, the thirty third pick has been traded

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<v Speaker 1>three times in the last twenty five years, and the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest haul anybody's gotten has been moved back a couple

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<v Speaker 1>spots in the second and getting extra third round next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not really the kind of game changing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>payoff that I think a lot of people are expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who just bithely say oh, they should

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<v Speaker 1>trade back, of course and add more assets, without realizing

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<v Speaker 1>what those assets actually are. And I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they're in that three times better than a quarter situation

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<v Speaker 1>here where you know, I just think with where this

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<v Speaker 1>roster is right now, they're better served seeing what's there,

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<v Speaker 1>what's available of them. There's going to be someone who

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<v Speaker 1>can start for this team at thirty three. There's probably

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who can start for this team at thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe at sixty five. To me, that's a stay

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<v Speaker 1>put and see what you can get right. If you

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<v Speaker 1>need fiber, if you need to move back, then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got one, one, two, and somewhere in there you can

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<v Speaker 1>move around and try to add some later picks if

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<v Speaker 1>later picks is the thing you need.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think this is.

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<v Speaker 1>A very much a quality rather than quantity kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 4>And then to that point, I think that because of

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<v Speaker 4>where the draft classes, where the unit classes kind of

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<v Speaker 4>fall in this draft, I know that the thinking is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>go receiver and go interior alignment.

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<v Speaker 3>Early.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they did a lot to kind of work

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<v Speaker 4>on that interior line. Obviously, they still need some depth

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<v Speaker 4>there and they need to be looking to the future,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, but I don't think it's as much of

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<v Speaker 4>an immediate need as it was two months ago, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And so I wouldn't be surprised if they go receiver

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<v Speaker 4>and then edge rusher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they're kind of at a point and

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<v Speaker 1>I have hesitated getting down in the weeds of this

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<v Speaker 1>guy versus this guy or particular names or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't make these positions monolithic and say just position because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be about a particular guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think where this roster is right now, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the clock at thirty three, if there is

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<v Speaker 1>a inside linebacker, if there is a cornerback, if there

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<v Speaker 1>is a pass rusher, if there is a receiver that

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<v Speaker 1>is sticking out a big chunk on your board above

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else, I think you just do it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's hung up on receiver and locked in at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three because that's been the most talked about thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just one of a number of needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they're going to address it at some point

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. It'll be a huge surprise if they come

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<v Speaker 1>out of the weekend without receivers orl But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, I don't think they have to do any

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<v Speaker 1>particular thing at thirty three. So if it's the pass rusher,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, I think cornerback is a place that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be addressed. You know, they like Dane Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>as somebody who can come in and start opposite JC.

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<v Speaker 2>Horn, but you need another corner.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen that over and over during the years of

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to have four of those guys over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the year. So I just think they could

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<v Speaker 1>go a number of ways. That's why I'm hesitant, and

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<v Speaker 1>it may sound like a cop out, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say any particular name, but I just think

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many ways to go. It's impossible for them

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<v Speaker 1>to lock in on anyone spot, and they have a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit of a luxury of the fact that receiver and

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<v Speaker 4>linemen are deeper classes. Here at rusher corner, they're not

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<v Speaker 4>as deep I would argue in this class, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>probably somebody's gonna send me something to prove that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>But you almost want to take one of those positions

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<v Speaker 4>earlier because you're gonna get more. You're gonna get more

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<v Speaker 4>bang for your buck there where you can still get

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<v Speaker 4>bang for your buck taking a receiver or alignment a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit later. I don't think I would take a

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<v Speaker 4>receiver later than sixty It is sixty five, right, that's

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<v Speaker 4>just playing way too late for what you need this

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<v Speaker 4>receiver to do. Yep, But I mean that doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be what's done at thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, inside the draft room, what's Cassy Hill's secret

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<v Speaker 1>for a successful draft when you're up all night Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>and Friday and Saturday. What's the one thing that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knows happens behind the scenes that you have to have?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I started with a Venti iced coffee from Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 4>You just got to hit it off with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then is venta mean is that large.

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<v Speaker 3>Denty is like the largest one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay large.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to send you a Paul rud Cliff about this,

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<v Speaker 4>and then from there to just kind of get through

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<v Speaker 4>the night, I go with super super healthy diet, Doctor

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<v Speaker 4>Pepper and Nerds gummy clusters, hi, those that keeps me

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<v Speaker 4>kind of going that artificial sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very strict and pre set draft weekend diet.

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<v Speaker 1>I basically eat whatever's in front of me all weekend long,

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<v Speaker 1>and lots and lots of coffee, you know, heavily caffeinated.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever food passes in front of my face. It's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that chicken finger, sure, barbecues at Yeah, okay, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. That's just you know, we can want to

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<v Speaker 1>do certain things, we can want to be healthy, but

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is we're going to be trapped in a

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<v Speaker 4>Just send some gummy clusters up here to building appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So diet, Doctor Pepper, gummy clusters or whatever they throw

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<v Speaker 1>in the trough for Darren. Once we get on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of that, we will see you again post draft.

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