Speaker 1: Hello, friends, Welcome to the Happy half Hour, and it's
Speaker 1: happier than ever because we were actually on a football
Speaker 1: field this week.
Speaker 2: We've seen grass, we touched grass. As the kids say.
Speaker 3: We probably all needed to.
Speaker 1: It's good to be out there on a football field
Speaker 1: and remind yourself that this is a football product that
Speaker 1: we spent so much time talking about. Because for so
Speaker 1: much of the off season, when you're at the combine
Speaker 1: and doing free agency and everything else, this feels like
Speaker 1: an abstract concept. But then you walk out there in
Speaker 1: the sunshine and the blue skies and Dave Canalysis, you know,
Speaker 1: jumping around, twirling his whistle and having a big old time.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, yes, this is a football team we're
Speaker 1: talking about here, an actual tangible product. And they were tangible. Indeed, yesterday,
Speaker 1: weren't they.
Speaker 4: They were, They were in fact almost tangible completely as
Speaker 4: a team. Only three players not here. That's a pretty
Speaker 4: good attendance for the first day of voluntary mini camp
Speaker 4: in April.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I think Dave Canals will take that for his first
Speaker 4: time as a head coach.
Speaker 2: No doubt.
Speaker 1: And these things are voluntary, and the thing about attendance
Speaker 1: this time of year is you never know what's go
Speaker 1: guy's got going on.
Speaker 2: I mean, people have things.
Speaker 1: Playing before you know, they realized they were coming to
Speaker 1: a team where there's a you know, voluntary mini camp
Speaker 1: on this particular weekend, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So we're so a testament of It's not a commentary
Speaker 4: on those who weren't here, but we're so a testament
Speaker 4: to those who were.
Speaker 1: Definitely, and I think there was an energy about the place,
Speaker 1: and a lot of that is coming from Dave Canalis himself.
Speaker 1: That's kind of his calling card. It feels like that's
Speaker 1: the first word anybody says when they're asked about Dave Canalis.
Speaker 1: They talk about that energy.
Speaker 4: So Deonta n did you hear Deonta Johnson yesterday what
Speaker 4: he said?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That was classic.
Speaker 4: He said it was so much energy. He didn't even
Speaker 4: realize he was the head coach until after dinner.
Speaker 1: I wondered about that, and I kind of I thought
Speaker 1: to myself when Deontay said that.
Speaker 2: Who do you think he was?
Speaker 1: Did he think he was the writer for the website?
Speaker 1: Did he think he was podcast Matt? Did he think
Speaker 1: he was Yeah? I don't know what, but you know he.
Speaker 4: Was, Yeah, somebody they just brought along to drive the car, like, yeah, somebody.
Speaker 2: He's the young guy, he's the coach's son, or I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Because I would imagine he did the bulk of the talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting to me though, because when you see
Speaker 1: Dave for the first time doing Dave things out on
Speaker 1: the football field, it's new to us, right. And I
Speaker 1: was careful in knocking around yesterday talking to people about
Speaker 1: Dave's first day on the job, basically, you know. And
Speaker 1: I asked his assistant, Jessica Beckinstein, I said, is this
Speaker 1: more amped up? And she was like, no, the usual amount,
Speaker 1: and this is just who he is. And we're still
Speaker 1: getting used to Dave and learning Dave's patterns and everything
Speaker 1: like that. But some people get up for special occasions,
Speaker 1: but Dave kind of gets up to a certain caffeinated
Speaker 1: peak and then stays there for hours and hours at
Speaker 1: a time. So I respect the fact I also am
Speaker 1: mourning people. I do not get here at four forty
Speaker 1: five in the morning the way Dave Canalis does. But
Speaker 1: the alarm goes off not long after that, and we
Speaker 1: begin the day bringing you the very best product we
Speaker 1: can here at Panthers dot Com. But It was interesting
Speaker 1: to see it all out there in practice because we
Speaker 1: can talk about what it looks like. We can talk
Speaker 1: about Deontay Johnson, we can talk about Robert Hunt, Damien Lewis,
Speaker 1: Austin Corbett moving to center. But when you lay eyes
Speaker 1: on him and you see it out there in the flesh.
Speaker 3: And you see all of them together.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like, Okay, now you see the start of
Speaker 1: this plan coming together. Now you see what it's beginning
Speaker 1: to look like, and realize what they've been talking about
Speaker 1: all off season.
Speaker 2: As you stood there.
Speaker 1: Cassidy, watching this thing kind of unfold brand new for
Speaker 1: the first time, what was the first thing that jumped
Speaker 1: out at you?
Speaker 3: Well, Jadavian Cloney.
Speaker 4: That's also just because he's large and he was right
Speaker 4: there near us. He was also the only outside linebacker
Speaker 4: really going through jail because he was the only one
Speaker 4: that was here and healthy and able to do so.
Speaker 4: But you almost got the sense too that if push
Speaker 4: came to show, Ja, Davi and Cloinney could take care
Speaker 4: of outside linebacker for this team by single hatedly.
Speaker 3: Even in his thirties.
Speaker 1: He was definitely moving around well, and he seems you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about Dave's energy. He's got a little rejuvenated
Speaker 1: vibe about right. We noticed that when he came in
Speaker 1: right after signing and we were talking to him and
Speaker 1: filming some stuff for the website, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: You could tell he was excited. You could tell he
Speaker 2: felt it.
Speaker 1: But I get the sense that last year was kind
Speaker 1: of a boost for him because after so long that
Speaker 1: the weight of expectations when you're a number one pick
Speaker 1: kind of bears down on you and you wonder if
Speaker 1: you're ever going to get back to being that guy again.
Speaker 1: Last year in Baltimore, not in a Hatch Sackson regular season,
Speaker 1: another one in the playoffs. He was that guy again
Speaker 1: last year, and so that's why he was such a
Speaker 1: central component of the work they were doing defensively. But
Speaker 1: there's still, you know, along those lines when you look
Speaker 1: out there with DJ Wadham still kind of working his
Speaker 1: way back from an injury last year. It's an incomplete
Speaker 1: group right now on defense, and it's also brand new
Speaker 1: because we got condition to seeing certain things over the
Speaker 1: tail end of last year. And then you look out
Speaker 1: on the field and there's a Sean Robinson and he's new.
Speaker 1: There's Josie Jewel and he's new, and he's next to
Speaker 1: Shaq Thompson, who's not new but wasn't out there a
Speaker 1: whole lot last year. And then there's Jadavia, and then
Speaker 1: there's Dane Jackson, and then there's j Fuller in the back,
Speaker 1: and you realize it's a brand new group.
Speaker 4: And Nick Scott, which I know is technically a def
Speaker 4: it's a back, but it was really brought in for
Speaker 4: his special team's prowess. And at one point they were
Speaker 4: running a punt drill and you remember I even like
Speaker 4: said to you, like, who is that calling the play? Yep,
Speaker 4: And we looked out there and it was Nick.
Speaker 1: Scott's number twenty one. You're a new personal protector, Nick Scott.
Speaker 1: So that that's gonna be one of those hidden wrinkles
Speaker 1: over the course of this year. Nick Scott, who has
Speaker 1: a career reception from Johnny Hecker. So we are, yeah,
Speaker 1: we are definitely looking for to putting that one into play.
Speaker 1: But as I looked out there and again this was
Speaker 1: such a topic for so much of the conversation, but
Speaker 1: when you see that interior offensive line together, you a
Speaker 1: understand Austin Corbett is not a small man, right Austin
Speaker 1: Corbett is a large human being by any metric that
Speaker 1: mortals have available to them. When you see Damian Lewis
Speaker 1: and Robert Hunt on either side of him, it's like, ah,
Speaker 1: that's different. Yeah, those two guys are not like the
Speaker 1: one in the middle, and Austin is merely huge and
Speaker 1: they are gigantic and that is on purpose.
Speaker 4: Kids, And to kind of go along with that, you know,
Speaker 4: we heard from both Canalis and a little bit of
Speaker 4: Bryce yesterday too talking about how yesterday was they were
Speaker 4: going back down to the bear basics with both Bryce
Speaker 4: and Andy Dalton of you know, how to take your
Speaker 4: quarterback stance and to see around these large linemen, which
Speaker 4: is is going to be something that Canalis has talked about,
Speaker 4: is going to be something he has to work with
Speaker 4: with Bryce because he is on the what did he
Speaker 4: call it, vertically challenged or height challenged or something like that.
Speaker 2: He's not tall, not tall, and now.
Speaker 4: You've got these huge guys, and so it's you know,
Speaker 4: even learning something as basic as what stance to get
Speaker 4: in to see the whole field from that pocket.
Speaker 3: Ye, And so he's he's very very detailed.
Speaker 4: And Bryce got the baptism by fire in that yesterday
Speaker 4: kind of going back to quarterback school as.
Speaker 1: They Yeah, I like the fact that Dave called it
Speaker 1: quarterback school, and they are beginning. They're making no assumptions
Speaker 1: about these people basically. I mean, he talked about Will Harridser,
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach, teaching Andy Dalton how to get into
Speaker 1: a stance properly.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure Andy's.
Speaker 3: Thinking, thanks, I've been doing this for a little while.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that Andy's a pro, He's here for a reason.
Speaker 1: But and also has great hair, as Dave Canal has
Speaker 1: helpfully pointed out, Wow, like that best.
Speaker 3: Hair in the league other than Patrick Mahoonmes. But Mahomes isn't.
Speaker 1: Red, right, Yeah, so the red hair pushes it over
Speaker 1: the top. But it's interesting to see, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of the way Dave's been putting this thing
Speaker 1: together in terms of the on field product. He's being
Speaker 1: very intentional. He's starting at the beginning, making no assumptions
Speaker 1: and basically creating a brand new product. We get caught
Speaker 1: talking about things in the context of what happened to
Speaker 1: last year, and.
Speaker 2: He's this is a brand new product.
Speaker 1: This is completely different, and Bryce Bright it's easy for
Speaker 1: Bryce to say, Hey, I'm focused on this year. Don't
Speaker 1: want to spend any time thing about last year because
Speaker 1: last year was a disaster for everybody that was involved
Speaker 1: in it. So I understand not wanting to talk about it.
Speaker 1: But this is going to be a brand new product,
Speaker 1: so from new receivers in new spots, and you know,
Speaker 1: people are talking about Deontay Johnson's going to be the
Speaker 1: first read on almost every play. So far, that group
Speaker 1: is still very much under construction and is probably going
Speaker 1: to change in the next four or five days.
Speaker 2: We'll see how all that kind of goes.
Speaker 1: But it was inve to kind of see the way
Speaker 1: they're approaching everything on the field from a very building block,
Speaker 1: very step one sort of standpoint. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: good to see that group on the field together as
Speaker 1: a unit after we've been talking about them all last season.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, and really this is
Speaker 4: a question for Dave Canalis, but I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 1: Dave Canallis and I have many things in common besides
Speaker 1: the fact that we're both mourning people.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sure you're cafeated. You have to be if
Speaker 3: you're going to get up that early.
Speaker 2: See like like Dave Canalis and Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1: I got to work out him before this podcast. As
Speaker 1: far as you know, as.
Speaker 3: Far as who's going to tell you you're.
Speaker 1: Wrong, exactly nobody. There are pictures of me working out
Speaker 1: at some point, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Anyways, at any rate, So Canalis yesterday talked about how
Speaker 4: this was the same quarterback school that he's put all
Speaker 4: of his quarterbacks through. Russell Wilson, Gino, Smith, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4: We've seen what became of that, you know, consistently three
Speaker 4: of their like all three quarterbacks had their best career
Speaker 4: seasons or with Russell one of his second best.
Speaker 3: But still.
Speaker 4: We saw like five Pro Bowls, Comeback Player of the
Speaker 4: Year for Gino, a Comeback Player of the Year nomination
Speaker 4: for Baker, and so we've seen it have success. Do
Speaker 4: you think it will be those But here's what is
Speaker 4: the difference between those three guys and Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: They're all more established at the time he's getting to them.
Speaker 4: So that's my question. Do you think it will be
Speaker 4: easier or more difficult to take a second year quarterback
Speaker 4: through this quote unquote quarterback school or would it have
Speaker 4: been because with an established player on one hand, they're
Speaker 4: already they already have habits and it's probably harder to
Speaker 4: break them of those. But on the second hand, they
Speaker 4: already have seen a lot of NFL defenses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one thing I know about Bryce I kind
Speaker 1: of picked up from. And this is not anything anybody's
Speaker 1: necessarily said. It's just from watching him and observing Rice
Speaker 1: ain't scared to learn, He ain't scared to put in
Speaker 1: the work to improve on things. I mean, he's constantly
Speaker 1: asking for feedback. He's talking to coaches on the side
Speaker 1: and afterward about you know, how he can do different things.
Speaker 1: That was last year and that's going through this year.
Speaker 1: When I talked to him the other day, he was
Speaker 1: very clear about wanting to continue to do that work,
Speaker 1: wanting to continue to improve on the football stuff. Now
Speaker 1: he also talked about wanting to improve as a leader.
Speaker 1: So I think that's going to be a twofold thing
Speaker 1: for Canalis. I mean, along those lines. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: the same background that Russ Gino, Baker and those guys
Speaker 1: all had when they got to this job. But he
Speaker 1: is still almost an unshaped piece of clay, and from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of Dave Canalis, so he gets to work
Speaker 1: with something fresh, and I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how that turns out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I did have one more observation for mystery at me,
Speaker 4: probably move on and you could speak to this maybe
Speaker 4: even a little bit more, because you saw these guys
Speaker 4: last year before the season started. By the time I
Speaker 4: cut to them, there was a.
Speaker 2: Lot of they were broken.
Speaker 3: They were just.
Speaker 4: Weighed down, yes, broken and just you know, kind of like, oh,
Speaker 4: let's just get this over with. Obviously, that was a
Speaker 4: much different vibe yesterday, even like we saw Bryce bounce
Speaker 4: in there and make jokes about basketball and hold his
Speaker 4: own little uh press conference vice versa, Yeah, asking everybody
Speaker 4: all the.
Speaker 1: Rolls up and starts asking us questions, what do you
Speaker 1: guys do in the off season?
Speaker 3: You know, what else does your job do?
Speaker 4: But there was one unit that kind of stood out
Speaker 4: to me, and that was the running back unit and
Speaker 4: and kind of just how they were handling themselves and
Speaker 4: their vibe, and especially with Cuba Hubbard and one, it
Speaker 4: was kind of fun to just see he and Bernie
Speaker 4: parmeally have kind of already established their little like side show,
Speaker 4: like ribbing each other and kind of staying on each
Speaker 4: other but in a fun way. And but then also
Speaker 4: every time Parmally would teach something, Cuba would then turn
Speaker 4: around and make sure the other guys had it and
Speaker 4: kind of go over it again with him while Parmally
Speaker 4: got something set up, which seems like very very much
Speaker 4: he's embracing. Okay, this is who I have to be
Speaker 4: in this unit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the really understated things about last year,
Speaker 1: And it was easy for things to slip under the
Speaker 1: radar with the way he last year went. But for
Speaker 1: Cuba Hubbard to start the years of backup and end
Speaker 1: up running for nine hundred yards and catching thirty nine
Speaker 1: balls for a team that was always always behind is
Speaker 1: a minor miracle for a couple of reasons. Number One,
Speaker 1: it was hard for them to run because they were
Speaker 1: always behind. And number two, Cuba was not a natural
Speaker 1: catcher of the football last year, and through the sheer
Speaker 1: force of repetition and hard work, he has turned himself
Speaker 1: into a competent pass catcher. So I've got all the
Speaker 1: respect in the world for the job Cuba's done kind
Speaker 1: of growing into this role and it's not as if
Speaker 1: he's there just because Miles Sanders didn't have the year.
Speaker 1: People thought he was going to have last year. He's
Speaker 1: earned this. He has made this his own and kind
Speaker 1: of staked out that area as the lead back in
Speaker 1: this situation. So I'm encouraged to see what Cuba's done,
Speaker 1: and I think it's been impressive. That's what you want
Speaker 1: out of fourth round picks, That's what you want out
Speaker 1: of anybody, is take the stuff you're bad at, get
Speaker 1: better at it, improve, keep working.
Speaker 4: Do you think, if properly used behind this offensive line,
Speaker 4: could Chuba Hubber be a top ten back in this league?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I get the impression that this is always going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit committee based. I don't think Cuba
Speaker 1: is so far and away, you know, physically dominant, that
Speaker 1: he's going to be that guy. He's not ever going
Speaker 1: to be a three hundred carry a year guy or
Speaker 1: anything like that. But I think he is absolutely a
Speaker 1: quality starter in the league. I mean, we've shown he's
Speaker 1: shown that he's got long speed. Every now and then
Speaker 1: he can break one. He's shown over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years that he's a capable interior runner. So I
Speaker 1: don't want to put a sea on what he might
Speaker 1: or might not be but I'm just impressed with how
Speaker 1: far he's come in three years so far in terms
Speaker 1: of making that making that.
Speaker 2: Job his own next year.
Speaker 1: Exciting to watch, no doubt, no doubt, And we'll have
Speaker 1: more to watch today when we go out there.
Speaker 2: We are coming to you live on a taped basis.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those old sitcoms taped live in
Speaker 1: front of a studio audience, and there is your dated
Speaker 1: pop culture reference for today that nobody else in this
Speaker 1: room gets.
Speaker 3: The sitcoms I used to watch when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: We're always filmed in.
Speaker 2: Front of I'll accept that.
Speaker 4: So friends, everybody loves Raymond.
Speaker 3: Family matters.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we will get back on the field here
Speaker 1: in a little bit later on this morning. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then we will sit around all day on Thursday waiting.
Speaker 3: And it's gonna be exactly what we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we will probably just spend our time
Speaker 1: listening to Taylor Swift records over and over something like that.
Speaker 2: It'll be excited Orchard beat writers departments.
Speaker 4: We'll have so much time is that you can go
Speaker 4: through all thirty one songs once and then we can
Speaker 4: go through them again. As I give you the background
Speaker 4: of each song.
Speaker 1: So this is going to be like after a football
Speaker 1: game when the coach says, well, I got to look
Speaker 1: at the film before I can break that down.
Speaker 4: Right, I've done the film study.
Speaker 3: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: You're prepared for this. You're a swiftie.
Speaker 4: We are going to be sitting in literature class as
Speaker 4: we go through each song.
Speaker 1: This is going to be interesting to me because I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this and I kind of I lobbed
Speaker 1: a grenade in the foxhole and ran with some of
Speaker 1: the criticism of Taylor Swift's album the other day. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize what a passionate defense I was going to get.
Speaker 1: It would be like somebody rolling up on me and saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Darren, I think bo'j Angle's kind of overrated.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize what I was starting. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: can go on and on about this game.
Speaker 4: I'll take fifteen seconds because I can't go on all
Speaker 4: but I'll take fifteen seconds to say this. I have
Speaker 4: no problem with criticism of the work. Everybody has their
Speaker 4: own taste in music, as she's done this across like
Speaker 4: four different genres now, so it's not gonna be for
Speaker 4: everybody all the time. I do think this album was
Speaker 4: more for the fans than that. It's not for the
Speaker 4: Grammys or the critics, but whatever. But my issue with
Speaker 4: like the review that you sent me is more so
Speaker 4: about the person than the music. And it's like, let's
Speaker 4: just review the music. If this is what we're doing,
Speaker 4: let's just review the music, Okay.
Speaker 2: One of the things I keep that short.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things that's interesting to me about
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. And I don't know a few people are
Speaker 1: aware of this, but I am an older person. I
Speaker 1: am aware of her presence. I am not very familiar
Speaker 1: with her work.
Speaker 3: I mean, are probably are more than you realize.
Speaker 1: I've heard it and it's been like background music, and
Speaker 1: I'm aware of it in a general sense. But I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about this person other than she's had
Speaker 1: a lot of boyfriends and a lot of relationships and
Speaker 1: most of them in poorly well.
Speaker 4: I mean, wouldn't you be able to say that about
Speaker 4: all of your relationships except the ones that are a success.
Speaker 3: That's just in general, not you, that's any person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thank god there's no Daring Gaant Tortured Poets album.
Speaker 4: Imagine there could be. I'm sure there are some stories.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, thank you, this would be a very different
Speaker 1: podcast with a very different clientele.
Speaker 2: Point many many were.
Speaker 4: Probably heard a song and not realize it because she
Speaker 4: writes a lot of songs that other people record.
Speaker 1: That's fair, and we'll have a lot of time to
Speaker 1: get into that while we wait and wait and wait. No,
Speaker 1: we don't, I mean, And again, that's kind of the
Speaker 1: way this week is because we're over here on football
Speaker 1: and then there's going to be that you know, waiting
Speaker 1: period where nothing's going on, but we're anticipating a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff and we do have some cool stuff. I
Speaker 1: will encourage you to stay tuned to Panthers dot Com
Speaker 1: throughout the entire week because we've got a lot of
Speaker 1: good stuff lined up. And once we get to Friday,
Speaker 1: after we wait through Thursday and watching thirty two teams
Speaker 1: make picks and do their thing and have fun and
Speaker 1: introduce new people, then the Carolina Panthers are on the
Speaker 1: clock from about eleven o'clock Thursday nine until seven o'clock Friday,
Speaker 1: when this thing kicks off.
Speaker 2: We'll have a lot of time to break down what
Speaker 2: could happen.
Speaker 1: And as you look at this Sin Cassidy you're probably
Speaker 1: like me and have looked at a million mock drafts
Speaker 1: and point you're mock drafted out.
Speaker 2: What's it going to be.
Speaker 4: I think we'll see a receiver early on.
Speaker 3: I think they.
Speaker 4: I think they stay pad at thirty three and thirty nine,
Speaker 4: I think they would have I that's not to say
Speaker 4: that they couldn't trade up and or trade back, but
Speaker 4: I think if they do that, those will be phone
Speaker 4: calls coming from outside the building. I don't think Dan
Speaker 4: Morgan's making those calls to try to trade.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: I get the sense from being around Dan, watching Dan
Speaker 1: over the course of the years that Dan's going to
Speaker 1: be a little tighter with his resources. He wants to
Speaker 1: make sure he's got those picks, and I think there
Speaker 1: is a value, you know, again not ideal, not having
Speaker 1: a first round pick, but thirty three and thirty nine
Speaker 1: gives you two of the top forty, and I think
Speaker 1: he kind of wants to exercise those picks. He wants
Speaker 1: to add people of that kind of quality to this roster.
Speaker 1: So you know, if somebody wants to call, I guess
Speaker 1: you listen. But just over the course of the years,
Speaker 1: there hasn't been terribly much value in that that pick's
Speaker 1: only been traded three times in the last twenty five drafts.
Speaker 1: And basically, yeah, the thirty third pick has been traded
Speaker 1: three times in the last twenty five years, and the
Speaker 1: biggest haul anybody's gotten has been moved back a couple
Speaker 1: spots in the second and getting extra third round next year.
Speaker 1: And that's not really the kind of game changing, you know,
Speaker 1: payoff that I think a lot of people are expecting.
Speaker 1: There are people who just bithely say oh, they should
Speaker 1: trade back, of course and add more assets, without realizing
Speaker 1: what those assets actually are. And I don't know that
Speaker 1: they're in that three times better than a quarter situation
Speaker 1: here where you know, I just think with where this
Speaker 1: roster is right now, they're better served seeing what's there,
Speaker 1: what's available of them. There's going to be someone who
Speaker 1: can start for this team at thirty three. There's probably
Speaker 1: somebody who can start for this team at thirty nine,
Speaker 1: and maybe at sixty five. To me, that's a stay
Speaker 1: put and see what you can get right. If you
Speaker 1: need fiber, if you need to move back, then you've
Speaker 1: got one, one, two, and somewhere in there you can
Speaker 1: move around and try to add some later picks if
Speaker 1: later picks is the thing you need.
Speaker 2: But I think this is.
Speaker 1: A very much a quality rather than quantity kind of situation.
Speaker 4: And then to that point, I think that because of
Speaker 4: where the draft classes, where the unit classes kind of
Speaker 4: fall in this draft, I know that the thinking is like, Okay,
Speaker 4: go receiver and go interior alignment.
Speaker 3: Early.
Speaker 4: I think they did a lot to kind of work
Speaker 4: on that interior line. Obviously, they still need some depth
Speaker 4: there and they need to be looking to the future,
Speaker 4: of course, but I don't think it's as much of
Speaker 4: an immediate need as it was two months ago, right,
Speaker 4: And so I wouldn't be surprised if they go receiver
Speaker 4: and then edge rusher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're kind of at a point and
Speaker 1: I have hesitated getting down in the weeds of this
Speaker 1: guy versus this guy or particular names or you know,
Speaker 1: we can't make these positions monolithic and say just position because.
Speaker 2: It's got to be about a particular guy.
Speaker 1: I just think where this roster is right now, when
Speaker 1: you're on the clock at thirty three, if there is
Speaker 1: a inside linebacker, if there is a cornerback, if there
Speaker 1: is a pass rusher, if there is a receiver that
Speaker 1: is sticking out a big chunk on your board above
Speaker 1: everybody else, I think you just do it. I think
Speaker 1: everybody's hung up on receiver and locked in at thirty
Speaker 1: three because that's been the most talked about thing. But
Speaker 1: I think it's just one of a number of needs.
Speaker 1: Of course, they're going to address it at some point
Speaker 1: this weekend. It'll be a huge surprise if they come
Speaker 1: out of the weekend without receivers orl But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I don't think they have to do any
Speaker 1: particular thing at thirty three. So if it's the pass rusher,
Speaker 1: as you said, I think cornerback is a place that
Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. You know, they like Dane Jackson
Speaker 1: as somebody who can come in and start opposite JC.
Speaker 2: Horn, but you need another corner.
Speaker 1: We've seen that over and over during the years of
Speaker 1: You've got to have four of those guys over the
Speaker 1: course of the year. So I just think they could
Speaker 1: go a number of ways. That's why I'm hesitant, and
Speaker 1: it may sound like a cop out, like I don't
Speaker 1: want to say any particular name, but I just think
Speaker 1: there's so many ways to go. It's impossible for them
Speaker 1: to lock in on anyone spot, and they have a little.
Speaker 4: Bit of a luxury of the fact that receiver and
Speaker 4: linemen are deeper classes. Here at rusher corner, they're not
Speaker 4: as deep I would argue in this class, and I'm
Speaker 4: probably somebody's gonna send me something to prove that's wrong.
Speaker 4: But you almost want to take one of those positions
Speaker 4: earlier because you're gonna get more. You're gonna get more
Speaker 4: bang for your buck there where you can still get
Speaker 4: bang for your buck taking a receiver or alignment a
Speaker 4: little bit later. I don't think I would take a
Speaker 4: receiver later than sixty It is sixty five, right, that's
Speaker 4: just playing way too late for what you need this
Speaker 4: receiver to do. Yep, But I mean that doesn't have
Speaker 4: to be what's done at thirty three.
Speaker 2: Yeh.
Speaker 1: All right, inside the draft room, what's Cassy Hill's secret
Speaker 1: for a successful draft when you're up all night Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday and Saturday. What's the one thing that nobody
Speaker 1: knows happens behind the scenes that you have to have?
Speaker 4: Well, I started with a Venti iced coffee from Starbucks.
Speaker 4: You just got to hit it off with that.
Speaker 2: And then is venta mean is that large.
Speaker 3: Denty is like the largest one.
Speaker 2: Okay large.
Speaker 4: I'm going to send you a Paul rud Cliff about this,
Speaker 4: and then from there to just kind of get through
Speaker 4: the night, I go with super super healthy diet, Doctor
Speaker 4: Pepper and Nerds gummy clusters, hi, those that keeps me
Speaker 4: kind of going that artificial sugar.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a very strict and pre set draft weekend diet.
Speaker 1: I basically eat whatever's in front of me all weekend long,
Speaker 1: and lots and lots of coffee, you know, heavily caffeinated.
Speaker 1: Whatever food passes in front of my face. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: I believe that chicken finger, sure, barbecues at Yeah, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean. That's just you know, we can want to
Speaker 1: do certain things, we can want to be healthy, but
Speaker 1: the reality is we're going to be trapped in a
Speaker 1: windowless room all week and long bringing you the latest
Speaker 1: on Panthers dot com.
Speaker 2: But we do it for the people. We do it
Speaker 2: for you, the listeners of the Happy half Hour and
Speaker 2: the readers.
Speaker 4: Just send some gummy clusters up here to building appreciate it.
Speaker 1: So diet, Doctor Pepper, gummy clusters or whatever they throw
Speaker 1: in the trough for Darren. Once we get on the
Speaker 1: other side of that, we will see you again post draft.
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