1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey, every Well, welcome back to bad You're Happy Hour. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are back with 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: the lovely couple Joanan Chok for part two. Welcome back guys, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: Thanks for having guys. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely so. 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: We finished off our last episode by you guys letting 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: us know that you're going to be coming to New York. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: You're going to be seeing some places this weekend, and 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: then you're going to spend some time here over the holidays. 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 4: Which areas of New York are you interested in? 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: So? 12 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 5: I think we're looking on the west side, but you know, 13 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 5: we are kind of open. I don't think we're like 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 5: the young crowd that would be over in Brookland, So 15 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 5: I think we stay on the other side of the bridge, 16 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 5: but we're actually staying on the east side this time. 17 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 5: So we're gonna explore that a little bit. And then 18 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 5: I think, I like, my love is the west side. 19 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 5: But you know, we're open. We want to be able 20 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 5: to walk to things, we want to be able to 21 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 5: walk out. He's from Kansas, he needs some city life 22 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 5: in him, and we want to be able to walk 23 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 5: out of our place and be like in the you know, 24 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 5: the midst of Kings. 25 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: We like that. 26 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: In our last episode we were talking about the finale 27 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: in Chack. You seem to be pretty calm, cool and collected, 28 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: and I wanted, how old are you? 29 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Sixty one? And actually, I want to go on record, 30 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: I am younger than Joan, So I'm a bad that 31 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: likes actually older women. 32 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: Yeah much. 33 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 5: I'm also sixty one, but I. 34 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: Do have an older one, and I'm like, I do, Jack. 35 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: Do you think yourself at thirty years old would have 36 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: been is calm with another guy potentially getting down on one. 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: Knee if I was like in second place, not. 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: If you were insane, but just because because the scenario, 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: you seem to really just be very confident, and I 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: think it was it was really Claire that Joan truly 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: loved you, but there still was another guy there, so 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: you didn't know, like you true, like you may have 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: been ninety percent sure, but there was still ten percent 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: that it could be someone else. 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: I do want to start this. My response back is saying, 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: guy is a fantastic person. The guy's got class. He 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: has handled this so well. He and I talk every week. 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: I only have positive things to say about him. And 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: he cared for Joe. He really did. That was true. 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: He had strong feelings for so I feel for him 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: and I've got to be respectful. But also he's just 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: he's a friend of mine, and that's a tough thing, 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: and you know, you don't see that normal world. But 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: we've been able to maintain our friendship. We talk. He's 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: just a good, solid person and I support him one 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: hundred percent my thirty year old self. I've kind of 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: been this way my whole life. Yeah, And I don't 58 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: get real excited when I do. You know, it's pretty rare, 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: and I try to think through situations and and you 60 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: know it's some people like that, other people don't. I 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: don't really have a lot of emotions like some people 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: are very emotional. Jonathan very emotional guy, just very lovable, 63 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: but you know, he's got he's got some history, but 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: he's got those emotions that he wears on his sleeve, 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: and I just kind of keep everything in. I've been 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: that way my whole life, and my father's tried to 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: work with me on that, but you know, we are 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: who we are. But I was very happy with how 69 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: it turned out. I can't tell you how graceful i'd 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: be if I would have lost, and I say lost 71 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: but didn't get jooned. So again, guy deserves a lot 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: of credit. He is a really solid person. 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: How did you How did you get on the show 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: in the first place? 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: My daughter and what had happened there is I understand 76 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong, that you can self 77 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: apply or somebody can nominate you. My daughter calls me 78 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: and she says, Dad, I did something. I don't know 79 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: if you're going to be happy, and I'm thinking she 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: quit her job, you know, whatever happened. And her girlfriend 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: she lived with was in a sorority and her senior year, 82 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: nine of them moved out into a house one of 83 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: her girlfriends from that house calder and said living in 84 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what city, but just said I saw 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: a casting advertisement. Your dad would be perfect for this. 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: So my daughter goes in and she applies, like she's. 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: Me, oh, so to nominate you. She applied, as you know, and. 88 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: So something's come up on that is there's a little 89 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: story going around that I'm not as funny as my 90 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: daughter thought I really was. But yeah, it was like. 91 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: The application and we're just not adding up. Something's off here, 92 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: and well, yeah, that was my daughter actually. 93 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: Yes, so it's a good story. I would have never 94 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: have done this on my own, no way, no way, 95 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: and that just wasn't something I would do. But hey, 96 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: it happened. Things happen, and that's you know. Love just 97 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: comes in different ways, you know, and you can fall 98 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: in love on a first date. You could know someone 99 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: for ten or twenty years of just different things happen. 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: But I'm very happy. But my daughter to answered that question, 101 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: she's the one that got me going on this and 102 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: then the I never thought that I'd get on the show, 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: and I kept saying, why is the guy from Kansas? 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Why are they interested in this guy from Kansas? But 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: I do think that the casting company did such a 106 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: great job to bring twenty four different personalities that it 107 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: was really unique. And that was a blessing for me, 108 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: is to get to know, you know, really fifteen sixteen 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: of the guys because the first guys that left the 110 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: first night, you just didn't have an opportunity. Rjie, nice 111 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: guy was in the in the limo with me, but 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: you just you have a quick conversation and that's it. 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: So I felt for those guys because they didn't have 114 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: a chance to really let the fans see who they 115 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: are and see their personality. 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: With all those big personalities. Joan, do you remember chox 117 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Lama entrance? 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 6: Oh my god, perfectly? Yeah, yeah, middle soup. I mean, 119 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 6: how can you ever forget chocol the noodle soup? And 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: it was good. I do understand he did actually make it, but. 121 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: I love it afterwards though I did. 122 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 6: It, doesn't want to make it, but not to me. 123 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: That so that like he knew that I had done 124 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 5: a a video on TikTok that had kind of gone viral. 125 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 6: I know, I had like three million views. 126 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 5: So the fact that he had taken the time to 127 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: know that I did that and then to use that 128 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: like to kind of get to know me or to 129 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 5: create some kind of rapport. And he also knew all 130 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: four of my kids' names, and that just showed me that, 131 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 5: like he was really serious about this process. So I 132 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 5: remember his limit entrance perfectly, although I have to say 133 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 5: I remember them all really really well. For some reason, 134 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 5: that night really sticks in my head very vividly. 135 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 4: Have you made him your your chicken noodle soup yet? 136 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 6: We have not done it. 137 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's getting to be winter, so that that's 138 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 5: that's going to be on the menu. 139 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 6: I think you might do a cook off. I think 140 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 6: that that is really good, and I know mine is good. 141 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: So he Actually we cooked very well together. We compliment 142 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: each other. One will cook one night, the other will 143 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: do the dishes. We'll each do. She'll prepare the salad, 144 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: I'll do the meat. So a lot of fun, and 145 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: that's just part of being a couple and then finding 146 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: out what the other person likes. We just align. I'm 147 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: kind of a big eater and Jones a nibbler. 148 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 5: Yes, but we both like to drink wine, so that 149 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 5: looks great. 150 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: Joan, if you were to be the vachrette when you 151 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: were thirty years old, how do you think you would 152 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: have handled the process differently back then than you did today? 153 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: Gosh, I can't even imagine that in my mind. So, 154 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 6: first of all, I was really shy. 155 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: I was like a math heard honestly all through high 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: school and even into college. I didn't kind of come 157 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 5: into my own until my senior year of college. 158 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 6: I was a computer science major. 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 5: I was a math minor, so I was a nerd, 160 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: and I didn't until actually my junior year in college, 161 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: I joined. 162 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 6: A sorority and that got me way cooler. 163 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: So I can't imagine even by the time I was 164 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: in my thirties, although at that point I was married 165 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: and had four kids, I can't imagine me having the 166 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 5: confidence to do this. 167 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 6: This takes a lot of confidence. 168 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: You have to be able to like the conversations are 169 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 5: deep and the emotions are high, and it takes a 170 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: you know, a level of maturity. 171 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 6: I'm very impressed in like. 172 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 5: You guys, the way that you navigate this, because I 173 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 5: found it very hard. 174 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: Oh it's hard, if I. 175 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: Could say too, is Joan handled this with so much class? 176 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: She did, And it's tough with with people that you 177 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: like and you want to respect them, letting them go. 178 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: And I was very impressed. I never and I lived 179 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: this from day one to the last day. I never 180 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: saw any rudeness, pettiness, anything at all. And it was 181 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: just handled with so much class that very few people 182 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: could do. And I think that's one of the reasons 183 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: she was the Golden Bachelorette. Is they knew she would 184 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: handle these situations because there were really good guys on 185 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: this show. And it's it's tough. It's really tough. I 186 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: could see in her eyes at the Rose ceremonies. 187 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's not even easy letting people go. But 188 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, you got. 189 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 6: The journey. You can only leave the one. 190 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: You can only leave the one. 191 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: Have you guys, so obviously you know when after the engagement, 192 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, the question is, have you guys talked about marriage, 193 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: which we'll get we'll get into before we get into 194 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: two marriage. What are the what do the holidays look 195 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: like for you? Oh? 196 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 6: Well, Maryland and Maryland, Maryland and Maryland. Yeah, so yeah, 197 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 6: and with my. 198 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: Kids living on the East Coast, it just works. So 199 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and Christmas, we're gonna do that. Right after Christmas, 200 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: we go to uh, New York City. In December, we're 201 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: going to be in New York City. Then we start 202 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: doing some traveling. We've got four big trips coming up 203 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, so it's going to be a 204 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: busy year. That's just what we know of right now. 205 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: Or what are the what are those what are those trips? 206 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: Most likely Africa and we're going to get to France 207 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: and then we go to the Caribbean at the end 208 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: of January, and then we've got one other one that 209 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: we're doing. Well. 210 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 5: We're in New York obviously, so we're gonna spend some 211 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 5: time there. Yeah, and those are the three that we 212 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 5: like are already kind of planned and so like, you know, 213 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: we're lucky. That's the whole thing about like the Gold 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 5: Season is that you know you have time and you 215 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: have resources now, so you know, you know, Chalk isn't retired, 216 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 5: but he can leave his business that runs pretty well 217 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 5: without him as long as he's just kind of some oversight. 218 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: And I have taken a leave of absence, so I'm 219 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 5: currently not working, and like we can now kind of 220 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 5: concentrate on our relationship and that's really important, I feel 221 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: like in the beginning, so having like a great time 222 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: just the two of us in New York City for 223 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 5: a while, but we do want to meet you guys 224 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 5: for dinner and and you know, you know, be able 225 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 5: to go on vacations so and finally be with our 226 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 5: friends and being each other's homes. I mean, you know, 227 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: me being in Kansas is going to be like a 228 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 5: vacation for me. I've never been there. I'm going to 229 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 5: be like Media's family and going to new places. So 230 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 5: you know, all this is still really really fun and new. 231 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: But the fourth trip, the fourth trip is Spain and 232 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: she's going to go with some friends of mine. 233 00:10:50,360 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Wife's mm hm, oh wow, it's fun. Yeah, chock, what 234 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: you have a big business? What are your What are 235 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: your employees think about you? Now? Do they look at 236 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: you differently? 237 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 2: So the filming when I left and I was gone 238 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: a week before seeing my mother. So when I got back, 239 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: they go, can you go away? There's some places running 240 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: well without you. And I've got a management team and 241 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: they're doing great. I've got i say, a young man, 242 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: but a thirty year old gentleman that wants to take 243 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: the business and run and so you know, it's what 244 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: I've done. The other thing is I would drive Joan 245 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: absolutely crazy if I was retired. I need something to do, 246 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: and that works well. So I like to get up. 247 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: I get up early every morning and uh but no, 248 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: it's it's going well. I couldn't you know, I couldn't 249 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: ask for anything else. 250 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: Have So have you guys had the marriage discussion yet? 251 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 252 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 6: He asked me, like every day, well why don't we 253 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 6: get married? 254 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: Okay, get married? 255 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody's following. 256 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: Me thing about women that don't want to marry me, 257 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: and this is a good time for me to clarify this. 258 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: Some of the heat that I've taken is the relationship 259 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: that I had with Kathy is some of the fans go, well, 260 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: he's got commitment issues. I was with Kathy for nine 261 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: years and we got engaged two or three years into it. 262 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: She was very and I supported this. She was very adamant. 263 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: She had kids in high school or grade school. Actually 264 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: we met through high school or upper school. And she goes, 265 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: we're going to get the kids out of school. We're 266 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: going to get the kids out of school. We didn't 267 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: live together, and she goes, when that happens, we'll get married. 268 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: And then she got sick. So, you know, a lot 269 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: of people there's a backstory to that. And I supported 270 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: Kathy one hundred percent on that. And her husband was 271 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: very involved with raising the kids, and she goes, just 272 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: those dynamics, we just don't need to do it. And 273 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: I was a single father. My ex wife, you know, 274 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: lived in another state. So it actually worked out very 275 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: well and we got to see each other a lot. 276 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: So it's a little non traditional, but I didn't want 277 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: to say that. Trust me, I would have married her. 278 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: And with doan, I said, and when are we getting married? 279 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: She's like, well, little. 280 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 5: That first day when we came into the room, where 281 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 5: in these like so let's get to know each other. 282 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 5: And then the next question was when are we getting married. 283 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 5: I mean, certainly it's on the table, like we are 284 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: going to get married. I'm just not like totally sure. 285 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 5: There's a part of me that like, once all of this, 286 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 5: like we've been really busy, you know, obviously during this 287 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 5: we do a lot of press after you know, you leave, 288 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: and we'll probably have a bunch of press, you know 289 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: now for at least a few more weeks. 290 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 6: And I think I just want to. 291 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: Be like us for a little while without having to 292 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: plan something big or having anything. I just want to 293 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 5: like live and be us and meet each other's friends 294 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 5: and go out for dinner and take some vacations. But 295 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 5: then I do want to get married, and we've got 296 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 5: to see what that looks like. If we want to 297 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: do an intimate wedding, or if we want to do 298 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: a big one, or if we want to do a 299 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 5: maatro nation wedding, all of those look a little different. 300 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 5: So I think we need to have our time kind 301 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 5: of outside of bachel nation bubble and you know, get 302 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 5: to be a couple. 303 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 6: For a little while before we start making these big plans. 304 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 2: We are going to guarantee that. 305 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah times like I am married, I mean. 306 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 6: Like I've had thoughts in my mind like let's just. 307 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: Go do it. 308 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: But you know, well, the guys, we'll make it special. 309 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: Nice. 310 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: I think that's the thing is is making it special 311 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: because it is very unique. But the other thing is 312 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: we're in our sixties and there's really no rush, there's 313 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: not a so we'll navigate all that. The love is 314 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: there and it's going to happen. Trust me, that's my prediction. 315 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: I think you predict right. We're excited for you guys. 316 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Chock. What's one thing you wish the audience knew about 317 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: you from watching this show that they may not have 318 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: picked up during your time on the show. 319 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: What I would say is, looking back through the episodes, 320 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: is the relationships that I had with the other men, 321 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: And for whatever reason, you know, they're filming so much 322 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: is it really showed me very little interaction with the 323 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: other guys. And Keith was you know, he was loved 324 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: by everyone. I mean he was always he just had 325 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: more energy. I'm a little bit more reserved guy. Was 326 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, the guys in my room. Gary very outgoing, 327 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: but we had a lot of interactions. It just didn't 328 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: make it to film. But that's between us, that's the guys. 329 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: We know our relationships with each other. 330 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joan, you did such a wonderful, wonderful job as 331 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: the bachelor at I mean, you really did. What advice 332 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: would you give the next lead? 333 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 6: Hmmm? 334 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: Uh, well, so I got advice command to show, which 335 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 5: I followed, which was very helpful. 336 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 6: And then I kind of have my own. 337 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: And that is you have to go in being really 338 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 5: open and vulnerable because you have to set the stage. 339 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: You have to show like that this is this is 340 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 5: what you have to do to make this work. You 341 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: can't go in and have superficial conversations and you know. 342 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 6: Fun, It's not all about being you know, having fun. 343 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: Fun times are important, but it's about having this important 344 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 5: conversations to see that you align on you know, values 345 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: and that you know you see the next part of 346 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: your life is in a similar way, you know, you 347 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: have to look to the future to make sure it's 348 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 5: going to work, otherwise there's no reason to be here. 349 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 6: Personally. I came in with. 350 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: This preconceived notion of how it was going to go, 351 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 5: and that was completely different. I came in thinking that 352 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 5: I was totally ready, that this was going to be 353 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 5: kind of an analytical process, you know, I you know, 354 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: I was going to analyze each guy and our interactions 355 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: and picture if I could live with them. And it 356 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 5: became way more emotional than I expected, and it, you know, 357 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: for a lot of different means reasons, one of them 358 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: being that, you know, I struggled a little bit with 359 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: figuring out how to get through the whole John thing. 360 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: I didn't realize that I hadn't really mourned completely and 361 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: I hadn't figured out how to get past that, and 362 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: that took a little bit of time. 363 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 6: And also like how hard it was. 364 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: Going to be to let the guys leave, you know, 365 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 5: to send them home. That was particularly difficult, more than expected, 366 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 5: and I expected it to be really hard. So I think, like, 367 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 5: if I was going to give somebody advice, you know, 368 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 5: just let it unfold the way it's organically supposed to 369 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: and don't come in with prep, you know, this preconceived 370 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: notions or how well you think it's going to work 371 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 5: based on having watched the show. 372 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did see a lot of your grieving process 373 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: through this journey of your late husband. What did this 374 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: process teach you about what it means to kind of 375 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: date someone new after the loss of a spouse. 376 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: If I can real quick, somebody kind of experienced this 377 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: as well. I anticipated this if she, if she Joan 378 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: was really interested in someone, because it's a breaking point 379 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: where you have this history and you're going, I'm moving forward. 380 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: So when Joe came in the one episode and she 381 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: sat down with us and she goes, you know, I'm 382 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: just struggling this. My mother's not feeling well, it's John. 383 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: I knew where she was coming from, and it is 384 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: it's a point where you're not taking the memory away, 385 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: but you're moving on. And whether it happened before the 386 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: show or during the show, I was anticipating it because 387 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: I've been through the same thing. 388 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 5: And I think what I learned from it was that, 389 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: like I didn't actually have to move on, you know, 390 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: in completely. So I had this thought that for me 391 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 5: to move on, I would have to completely let go 392 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 5: of John, and I just didn't feel ready to do that. 393 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: I don't think I would ever have been ready to 394 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: do that. And I finally was relieved of that that 395 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: notion that like I had to do that, like I was, 396 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 5: you know, I met with the psychiatrists in the show, 397 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 5: psychiatrists who told me that you don't have to let 398 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 5: go of somebody to love somebody else, like he will 399 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: always be part of your life. You will always be, 400 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 5: you know, in your heart, and there's enough room in 401 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: your heart for somebody else. 402 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 6: And I just never had any therapy. So after John 403 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 6: passed away, it was during COVID and I looked for 404 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 6: like a group that I could be part of. I 405 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 6: didn't really just necessarily want to see a therapist. 406 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 5: I wanted to see how other people were navigating life 407 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 5: like that were my age and had experienced this, and 408 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 5: I couldn't find one at all. I found groups for 409 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 5: older adults, you know, people in their eighties and nineties 410 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 5: who maybe you know, weren't necessarily you know, have you know, 411 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 5: as much life if I had, as I still have 412 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 5: ahead of me. And so I never worked through. 413 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 6: This until I got on the show. 414 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 5: But then I finally did. So the journey was different 415 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 5: than I would have thought it was going to be. 416 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: But when I learned that I didn't have to leave 417 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: John behind too, and I could still love somebody else, 418 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 5: it was so freeing. It was like such a cathartic 419 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 5: moment that I could finally figure out how to. 420 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 6: Work this journey. 421 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you guys ever wonder what would have happened 422 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: if you met in the real world and never went 423 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: on the show. Do you think it could have worked? 424 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 425 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 426 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: I've said this earlier that if I was let's say, 427 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: in DC or Maryland living or working there, if I 428 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: would have met joan same result. I mean it at the. 429 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 5: Time, but I don't think that never would have happened. 430 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: I mean, like I for Maryland, I don't think our 431 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: past would have ever crossed. I can't ever in a 432 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: million years, you know, figure out how that would have happened. 433 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 5: So like this was meant to be, Like we ended 434 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 5: up on this journey together for a reason. 435 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, how is it watching back? You're now fiance date 436 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: all these other. 437 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: Jesus, he didn't watch the show. 438 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: You said it in such a happy way, Hey, Chuck, also. 439 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: Raise that a little bit nicer. 440 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: That's the ten thousand dollars question. And it didn't bother 441 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: me at all. But she did kiss seven guys. 442 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 6: I think. 443 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: There was a post, so I think your daughter said 444 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: you kissed seven guys, somebody was keeping tracking. It's just 445 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: it's the journey. And even without the show, we both 446 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: dated before we went on the show. I mean that 447 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: was and you do that and no problem at all. 448 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: The great thing of this is I know the guys 449 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: and good guys, you know, very good men. So uh 450 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: you know what I there were some guys on there 451 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: that I thought, I mean it was competition not between us, 452 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: but I go are good people. These are really good 453 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: men that I could. You know, I could see Joan 454 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: or somebody else having a relationship a future. 455 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: With Have you have either of you played matchmaker yet? 456 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: With your two respected seasons? 457 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: Actually she can help her. She wants the world to 458 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: be happy and in love. 459 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 6: I do know if I want everybody to bet. 460 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 5: So before I came on the show, all of the 461 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 5: women from from the Golden Bachelor season were texting amazing 462 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: you know, you know, you know, I get your leftovers, 463 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 5: tell me, you know, find somebody for me. 464 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 6: So I went in there like kind. 465 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: Of focused when as people were leaving and thinking of 466 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 5: who I was going to set them up. 467 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 6: And I have three of them going right now. One 468 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 6: is not going to work, but. 469 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: Two are still happening. 470 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 6: And I have two more that I'm going to do 471 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: this week. 472 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: Well, I think we saw a photo of Leslie and 473 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: Jordan got one of them. Can you give us a 474 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: hint on maybe who the other ones are? I can't 475 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: tell you who the other one is. Is not far 476 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: enough along that I. 477 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 6: Would feel comfortable to it. 478 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: Okay, totally understand, And I. 479 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: Will tell you. We're having an engagement party. Oh and 480 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: so we have a lot of bachelor people coming and 481 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: I can guarantee you that Jon's going to be trying 482 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: to set everyone up there. Yeah, We've got a big party. 483 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: We're looking forward to it. It's going to be a lot 484 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: of fun. 485 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: Oh, that's so exciting. 486 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: We both have family and friends coming from I've got 487 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: them from around the country that are coming in and 488 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. It's going to be a lot 489 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: of fun. 490 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: Are either Do either of you have children that are single? 491 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 492 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 6: Yes, so I have. 493 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: Both My daughters are married, My oldest son is engaged, 494 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: and my youngest son lives with his girlfriend. 495 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 6: So I think mine are all take him. 496 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 3: Okay, child, would you would you recommend any of your 497 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: kids to go on Bachelor Bachelorette? 498 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: It was interesting because my son very good looking young man. 499 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: He's only twenty three and I was. 500 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: I was twenty two when I went on the show. 501 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and not that that is anything wrong with that. 502 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: I just don't know if he's ready. So there's been 503 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: talked about it, and then with the casting company going 504 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: and it's the same thing. What she said to me 505 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: is she goes, you know, this is serious. This is 506 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: about finding love. You know, if you're looking for fame, 507 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: go do something else, you know, go do tiktoks, whatever 508 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: you want to do. So that's the question for him. 509 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: My daughter, she's twenty five. I want to find her 510 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: a man so bad, so bad. And she's a great person, 511 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: she really just great and she is so much fun. 512 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: But she is probably the pickiest person I've ever met 513 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: in my life. Jilly still have a date and I go, Taylor, 514 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: what happened? Well, you know, he didn't put his fork 515 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: down right or something like that. Just give him a break, 516 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Just come on, you know, enjoy it the moment. 517 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: So better than not picky enough, though, I think, oh, yeah, 518 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: you're right about that. 519 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: I would what I'd really like to see my daughter 520 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: on is Bachelor of Paradise. Yeah, I think that. 521 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: I think Yeah, that's the show. 522 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 6: That's the show. 523 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: You can vouch that, Yeah, we can vention that one chuck. 524 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: Out of all the men from your season, who would 525 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: you be happiest to see become the next Bachelor? 526 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: So this morning I was thinking about that, and I 527 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: will tell you, and I'm not sidestepping your question with 528 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: a non answer, but there's seven to eight guys I 529 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: think that would do fabulous and each one of them 530 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: has a different, unique characteristic personality. Start with Charles. Charles, 531 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: Charles l I mean, the world loves me. He is 532 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: the nicest guy. I mean, I think it'd be fun 533 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: to watch. Jordan has an incredible personality that you didn't 534 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: really see on TV. I mean, the guy is sharp, 535 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: he is witty, he is fun. Keith the loving guy, 536 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: you know. Just you've got Pascal that you know, that 537 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: that suave, you know, gentleman that he is, and so 538 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: I can just go through I think Dan. And Dan 539 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 2: is incredibly good looking. I mean the TV didn't do 540 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: him that much justice. I mean it showed him, but 541 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: he is a good looking man. And you've got Jonathan, 542 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: but I heard he's dating someone. 543 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said that he's seeing someone, and he was a. 544 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: Gentleman too, and it was he was one of those guys. 545 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: He was kind of like me. He was he was 546 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: interactive with the guys, but you know, he was a 547 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: little bit reserved and I was the same way. But 548 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: he was so thoughtful and he did care for JOm two. 549 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, what a great guy. And who else 550 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: There was one other one and see Mark, Mark Mark. 551 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: You know, Mark is America's sweetheart. And that is that guy. 552 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you a story on this, a couple 553 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: of stories. When he walked into the bachelor mansion the 554 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: first night, I was probably the only guy that recognized 555 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: him because I done some research on went up and 556 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: introduced myself. He was such a gentleman, and he is 557 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: a worker, doing dishes, cooking, doing everything else. He was 558 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: on it. And a couple of times I just said, man, 559 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: you you know you are incredible. He is such a 560 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: good man. Well the day that the night that he left, 561 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: he came up and we were giving hugs and he 562 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: whispers in my ear. He goes, and this is my 563 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: one commitment when we get married, is he goes, you 564 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: have to invite me to the wedding. And Mark said that, 565 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: and it was so it was so special too, but 566 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: all great guys, and so can I pick one? And 567 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: I'm not again sidestepping it. I think there'd be so 568 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: many guys that would be so qualified for this. Part 569 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: of it is you want the person the right point 570 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: in their life, you know, with but then you want 571 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: the fans to really like them. It's important, it's aw 572 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: you know, it's a show, and to become attached to them. 573 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: And each one of these guys are just so unique 574 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: in their own way. 575 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 5: Ye see, I'm not sure that there's going to be 576 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 5: one hundred percent of them available. 577 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean from what I see, well, if you keep meddling, 578 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: need we need a Golden Bachelor, and you're setting everyone 579 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: up to. 580 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 6: Set a couple of people up. 581 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 5: One said that he already had a girlfriend, and then 582 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 5: at Mantel all Christopher came up to me and teld 583 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 5: me he has a girlfriend. Doctor Bob has a girlfriend. 584 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 5: We've seen kind of out in the media. Mark has 585 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 5: a girlfriend or is he dating somebody? Jonathan said on 586 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 5: the show that he has a girlfriend. I mean, that's 587 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: like five right there that are like market. So the 588 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: guys are good, big, great catches, and the world has 589 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 5: seen it now so I'm not sure how many are 590 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 5: going to be available. 591 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: And the one that I left out was Gary. Oh yeah, 592 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: great guy. 593 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 7: And Greg and Greg Greg awesome, smart, witty, funny. But 594 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 7: you know, it's just a you know, I think I 595 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 7: think Charles l would be a hoot. 596 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: Though I think that would mean that's my bone. I 597 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: mean that we. 598 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 2: Would be a hoot because he's just so unlike the 599 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: rest of us, you know, I mean his innocence, but 600 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: is you know, he's so true to himself and he's 601 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: just I think it would be an absolute hoot to 602 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: watch him. 603 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: I keep seeing his tiktoks with his daughter. Oh my god, 604 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: they're so fun. 605 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's it's Charles two point zero. 606 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: Yes, he told us he's eating really well and he's 607 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 3: aging backwards. 608 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: Yes, he goes I'm sixty but I look thirty six, Joe, 609 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: and he would give us daily jokes. Is you know 610 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: you didn't see this on camera, but he's funny. He 611 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: would give us daily jokes. And sometimes they'd go for 612 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: five minutes. We're like, worre's a munch, Like, oh great, guys. 613 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: Before we let you guys leave, we're going to play 614 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: a quick newly engaged game. You ready, right, So it's 615 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna you know, it's just just simple questions, rapid fire. 616 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: Make sure you don't point in say a name just 617 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: because audio not visual? 618 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: Okay, joke real quick. Can I take a step back, though, 619 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: because I would be remissed. I think Jack would be 620 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: absolutely entertaining to watch as a colded backs. 621 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 5: Now. 622 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the right guy, but oh 623 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: my gosh, you would be entertaining. 624 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 6: I remember like him because he's a great cook. 625 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: Yeah it's a good cook. Oh my god, he's an 626 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: old school Chicago cook. I could tell you. 627 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to interrupt you. I just wanted to throw that. 628 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: You're good, Okay, got it, got it all right? Whose 629 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: chicken noodle soup is better? 630 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: Joe? 631 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: Who's the better cook? Overall? 632 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: Joe? 633 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 6: It's gonna say talk, So I think I could go. 634 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: You right, Who's the better dancer? 635 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: Neither say Joe? But I don't know that's right. See 636 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 6: him dance? 637 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: We haven't actually like danced, really, I don't think you 638 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: better to take dance lessons. 639 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 6: We're thinking about. 640 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: Well, now you guys have to dance at your engagement party. 641 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, okay, there you go. I have to have 642 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 6: two glosses of wine, be. 643 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: Pard to that. 644 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Who's the early bird talk? Who's the planner between the 645 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: two of you? 646 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: Both? 647 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're both. 648 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Who's more adventurous? Who's the better driver? 649 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: We've never driven to you? 650 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 5: We don't know, we've never been in a car together. 651 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah I. 652 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Would have been yeah. Yeah. When when Serena and I 653 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: got engaged at the end, she when she left my 654 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: hotel room, she left me her number and said, here's 655 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: here's here's your fiance is a phone. 656 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: The first time he told me, I was like, who 657 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 6: is this? 658 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: You know what's crazy too? I was thinking about this 659 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: the other day. 660 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: Is I remember being at the airport texting Joe and 661 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 3: feeling like, oh, like am I texting him? 662 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 4: Like too much? Like should I like so much? Like 663 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: how fast is he going to respond? 664 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 7: Like? 665 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't know? 666 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 4: I was like, this is crazy. I'm engaged to you. 667 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: I doubt take a guess what my telephone stage name is? 668 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: Jones phone number? 669 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I don't know what is it? 670 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 6: Kevin? 671 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: I like it? 672 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: And you know why because Rob Lowe was already taken. 673 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: Mine was. Joe's nickname is grocery store Joe. 674 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: So I just had like a bunch of like vegetables, 675 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: like a bunch of vegetables. 676 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: Who's more forgetful? We don't know. 677 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't gotten to them. Probably me. 678 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 6: I'd say maybe say chocolate. 679 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: You know who shops more Joe? 680 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 6: He hates the shop and I love to shop. 681 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: When it comes to your kids, who's the more chill parent. 682 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say me, I'm missing chalk ye I. 683 00:31:49,920 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: Can see that. Who's who's the bedhog? Well, you guys, 684 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time. We are 685 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: so happy for the both of you. Enjoy your engagement 686 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: party and everything you have coming. I mean, your trips 687 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: sound incredible and we should definitely get dinner when you're 688 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: in New York City. 689 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: Yes, let us know or even if you want Rex 690 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 4: or anything, so I. 691 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: Will tell you. You know, this is my first podcast 692 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: on the you know for anything with the show, and 693 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you guys. You have a great reputation. 694 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun. 695 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: So oh, thank you. 696 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: We're so excited to have you guys here. This has 697 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: been a great season. We couldn't be more excited for 698 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: the two of you, and too, and. 699 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: To all our listeners. Thank you guys so much for 700 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: tuning into Batchler Happy Hour. I really appreciate it, and 701 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: we hope you enjoyed jone season as much as we did. 702 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: And make sure you stay tuned for exclusive interviews every week. 703 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: Yes, we have lots more fun episodes as we tea 704 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: up for the holidays, and then before you know it, 705 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: it's going to be Grant season of the Bachelor, so 706 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: be sure to subscribe to Bachelor Happy Hour and thanks 707 00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: for listening. 708 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: Five