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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Pretty good?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Pretty good. Watched a lot of baseball today and uh

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Speaker 3: obviously watched Wimby yesterday, and there's a lot to get

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Speaker 3: into and I'm excited. We got a couple of guests,

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Speaker 3: one that I'm really excited to chat with for the

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Speaker 3: first time in a while. And there's just a lot

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Speaker 3: happening the week of July fourth that doesn't involve hot

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Speaker 3: dogs and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And to use a joke from Dan Byer earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week, it does not involve Damien either. I think

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Speaker 2: I think this will be a Damian Lillard Free show

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Speaker 2: after I get through this little half second here, because

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Speaker 2: no real news, and it feels like it feels like

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Speaker 2: that news cycle has finally played itself out. And I

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Speaker 2: will say, like, you know, between all this Otani stuff,

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Speaker 2: going into the All Star Game, All Star Break, going

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Speaker 2: into homerun Derby next week, and then of course, as

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Speaker 2: you said, Jason, what happened last night with Victor win Banyama.

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Speaker 2: There is quite a bit going on in sports where

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Speaker 2: we don't have to drag out Dame Lollard and James Harden,

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Speaker 2: et cetera.

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Speaker 5: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Last night, obviously, was the much anticipated debut of Victor

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Speaker 2: win Banyama.

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Speaker 5: You know, we could debate is he the greatest?

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Speaker 6: This?

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Speaker 5: Is he the greatest?

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Speaker 2: That one thing is for sure is this was the

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Speaker 2: first time that most people state side really got a

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Speaker 2: chance to watch him. He played a few games early,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the calendar year against Scoot Henderson when

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Speaker 2: he was playing in France. He came over the United States,

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Speaker 2: played a couple of games, and obviously, for the diehards

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Speaker 2: you may be pulled up something online the season, but

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Speaker 2: for the vast, fast, vast majority of the basketball consuming public.

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Speaker 2: This was really day one for him, and so he

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Speaker 2: did play last night in Las Vegas. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I do give the Spurs credit. They not only played him,

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Speaker 2: but they played him a pretty significant amount of time

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Speaker 2: and actually brought him back late in the game when

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Speaker 2: it would have been easy to shut him down. Spurs

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Speaker 2: out of the schedule today. They are scheduled to play tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: No word yet that I've seen if he will play.

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Speaker 2: But did play last night, two for thirteen from the

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Speaker 2: field and overall, you know, kind of a good night,

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Speaker 2: but not great. What was elite defensively is we expected

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Speaker 2: five blocks, eight rebounds, but did finish with just nine points. Jason,

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Speaker 2: your first impressions, Victor wein Beniama?

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Speaker 3: Are you right?

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Speaker 2: Let me even phrase that better? Are you officially ready

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Speaker 2: to call Victor when Banyama a bust? Jason Martin, the

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Speaker 2: floor is hears Nope.

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Speaker 3: He's not a Hall of Famer. He's not a bust.

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Speaker 3: He is a young player who has to learn what

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Speaker 3: the NBA game is all about. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: process and it's gonna take time. No one wants to

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Speaker 3: hear that, but that's how reality works. You talked about

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Speaker 3: him being elite defensively with the blocks and the rebounds,

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Speaker 3: and we know what the size and what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 3: But I can tell you this, the hype train isn't

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Speaker 3: about making him some version of Rudy Gobert. And you see,

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Speaker 3: and if you've read any articles over the last twenty

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Speaker 5: Was that like a week ago?

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Speaker 3: Exactly. The problem is that's not what's been promised. And

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Speaker 3: that's why we have said repeatedly on this show that

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Speaker 3: this has done him no favors. It's been a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a week for Victor, first with Britney Spears

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Speaker 3: and then with getting posterized by a dude with blue

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Speaker 5: That did happen.

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Speaker 3: It was not and I you know, watch I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, look, it was his first action. This

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Speaker 3: he's supposed to be this great distance shooter. Why because

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Speaker 3: to see him, he hit seven threes. You know, the

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Speaker 3: has shot throughout his career from distance. He's a twenty

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Speaker 3: him to take, especially early in his career. He is

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Speaker 3: a guy that you have to wait and see how

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Speaker 3: he develops. He's got to learn what it looks like

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Speaker 3: And you know what else he's got to do. He's

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Speaker 3: got to get stronger, because he is seeing right now

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Speaker 3: He really doesn't have one yet. He's got the height,

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Speaker 3: but that's about it. So I'm excited to see where

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Speaker 3: it goes. He said, I will be better. He knows

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Speaker 3: that's not gonna be enough. Two for thirteen is not

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Speaker 3: gonna be enough. But before everybody goes chicken little on

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Speaker 3: this thing, I saw this over and over again because

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Speaker 3: We understand this is a summer League performance. There was

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Speaker 3: be though, so I would just say, temper your expectations,

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Speaker 3: stop the hype train, stop the bus train. Let's just

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Speaker 2: Tell you what you know is, first of all, I

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Speaker 2: agree with everything you said. But interestingly, I was thinking

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Speaker 6: I think people are setting him up for failure, like, oh,

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Speaker 6: he's going to be an All Star next year. Like, man,

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Speaker 6: it's hard in his eighties, it's hard to become an

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Speaker 6: God be with him. Yeah, I hope he's just I think,

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Speaker 2: That was Draymond Green on the podcast Peep Podcast with

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Speaker 2: Paul George, And what stands out to me is I

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Speaker 2: you have to be an NBA All Star to understand

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Speaker 2: in that interview, he basically says like, look, I think

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Speaker 2: This thing takes time. It doesn't happen overnight for anybody.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I saw last night, is I

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Speaker 2: knew that. I do think watching it, it felt to

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Speaker 2: he was a little deferential at certain points, and he

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Speaker 2: is it's through no fault of his own. As Draymond Green,

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Speaker 2: he's said he's being set up to fail, not by

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Speaker 2: Is like, the number of guys that come into this

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Speaker 2: and that's basically it. Now you're asking a guy that's

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Speaker 2: But they play, you know, forty forty five games whatever

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Speaker 5: There's just so.

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Speaker 2: Many variables at play. And again, I thought the way

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't do this by next year, he's a failure.

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Speaker 2: It's exhausting. And I do give someone like Draymond Green

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more with you, and I couldn't agree

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Speaker 3: more with Draymond. That's exactly right. That's that is exactly

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this, I don't think the media is

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Speaker 3: setting him up to fail intentionally. There might be some

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Speaker 3: and Draymond's biggest point there is this game is hard. Learning.

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Speaker 3: and I can tell you another thing, what you're saying

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Speaker 3: Garnett just had to take over. Luca just had to

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Speaker 3: You know why, because you don't have a lot around him.

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Speaker 3: you do that forever. But they're gonna rise and fall

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Speaker 2: In addition to when Benyama's debut yesterday, it's a busy

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Speaker 2: He said, everybody's not going to buy in right away.

433
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Speaker 2: So that can't be the goal that everyone's going to

434
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Speaker 2: buy in from day one, which not every That's.

435
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Speaker 3: That's reasonable, rational and true.

436
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Speaker 2: And that's my question, right, So let's take let's take,

437
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: for example, the Los Angeles Lakers. So they just you know,

438
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: they obviously just had a big summer and all that,

439
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 2: and obviously all the guys that they just signed, right,

440
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: So I have two thoughts on this is one. So

441
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Speaker 2: looking at next year, Okay, Lebron James is owed fifty

442
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: one million dollars in salary, Anthony Davis forty three million,

443
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: Ruyha Chemora seventeen million, Gay Vincent will make eleven million,

444
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: There's some other guys whatever, blah blah blah blah blah.

445
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 2: Why I bring it up is for the best players?

446
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: Are you like, like this sounds crazy to the average

447
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: person working, you know, driving a truck right now or

448
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: shuttling their kids to soccer practice or coming home from whatever.

449
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Speaker 5: I get it.

450
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Speaker 2: My question is if you're Lebron James and you're making

451
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Speaker 2: fifty one million dollars next year. You know, multiple guys

452
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: are in the forty million a year. We've talked about

453
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: Dame Lillard's absurd contract. Although we're not gonna get it

454
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: to Dame Loard tonight, I promise is five hundred k enough,

455
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: especially when by the way, Jason, here's the alternative. So

456
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: if we have again to look at the calendar, here

457
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: we have the championship that the quarterfinals will be on

458
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: December fourth and fifth, the semi finals the seventh, and

459
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: on the ninth is the championship. It's a Saturday night.

460
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Speaker 2: If you're the Lakers, don't you kind of like take

461
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Speaker 2: a week off in December? No games, nothing on the schedule.

462
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Speaker 2: That's where I'm concerned. And I'm not trying to tear

463
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Speaker 2: this down. And I do give the league credit for

464
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: trying to create interest, but I don't know if I

465
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 2: just don't know if you're a veteran team, and it's

466
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Speaker 2: kind of the whole load management conversation that we have

467
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Speaker 2: all regular season. Do you care about winning the NBA Cup?

468
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: Do you care about now the last guy on the

469
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: bench cares about five hundred k in his pocket. I

470
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: get that, but do the stars the guys that matter,

471
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: or are they gonna sit there and say, you know what,

472
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: if this doesn't work out, if we end up losing

473
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: this game, right here, we get a week off and

474
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: we could just recover. We could get away for a

475
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Speaker 2: few days. I can spend time with my wife, spend

476
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: time with my kids. That's what I would be worried about.

477
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Speaker 2: I get it. I'm not trying to tear down the

478
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: league for trying something different. I just think there's a

479
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: lot of holes in this whole thing. And I'm not

480
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: sold that the guys that we're gonna want to see,

481
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 2: the guys that they want us to tune in for

482
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: in November and December, that they're gonna be super eager

483
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Speaker 2: to play in this chase.

484
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Speaker 3: I'll say, I mean you were talking about being confusing.

485
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: It is, and we're just gonna have to see how

486
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: it plays out. D Mars is right. This is not

487
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 3: something that people are gonna buy into day one. This

488
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 3: is the same hurdle that the XFL or something like

489
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: that has. It's something brand new, and do people care now?

490
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: The players in the XFL do because it's all they had.

491
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Speaker 3: But listen to this. Reading this from ESPN's story earlier

492
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Speaker 3: in the day. During the knockout round on days when

493
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Speaker 3: in season tournament games are not scheduled. That's December sixth

494
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: and December eighth, the twenty two teams that do not

495
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 3: qualify for the knockout rounds will each play two regular

496
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: season context What's going on here, Like there's just too much,

497
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: So the NBA Cup's going on and the regular season's

498
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: going on at the same time. Like they're gonna have

499
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: to probably iron some things out, and this is gonna

500
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 3: take some time. But if if I'm behind closed doors

501
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: and I maybe this is happening, I don't know. If

502
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm the league and I'm the players Association, somehow, I'm

503
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: saying this thing can become an absolute cash cow for us.

504
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: If you guys buy in and we're gonna give you

505
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: stake in it, I'm gonna find a way. If I'm

506
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: Adam Silver, if I really believe in this and I

507
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: think this is the key to growing the league a

508
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: little bit more, especially early in the year, and not

509
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: just ceding everything to the NFL in college football, I'm

510
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: gonna find a way for this thing when it gets

511
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: sponsored up or something in a few years. For that

512
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: to find its way to the players, Like, that's the

513
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: only way that I can guarantee that the players are

514
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: gonna care five hundred thousand dollars. I'm sorry, not with

515
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: the salaries that I see. I just don't think that's

516
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 3: going to be enough for the real upper echelon players

517
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: to be all in on this thing. It's not about

518
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 3: the fans I think will be there if we believe

519
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: that the league itself the players actually care about this thing.

520
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: And look, I hope it does. Man, it'd be awesome

521
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: for this thing to take off and be great entertainment

522
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 3: early in December. Get you psyched about basketball earlier. I

523
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: think that would be a great thing. I just need

524
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: to see it before I'm willing to actually say that's

525
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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Last thought before we get the disager, I just think

527
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: this is way too complicated and I think they're way

528
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: over thinking it.

529
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Speaker 5: While you were talking, this is what I was thinking.

530
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: Just bring all thirty teams.

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Speaker 2: To Vegas and however you do it, just play a

532
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: single elimination tournament and it would be freaking awesome. Right,

533
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: So think about this, right, think about that, And I

534
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 2: know December is a Christmas Day is the NBA whatever,

535
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: I get that right. Maybe, by the way, the championship

536
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 2: is on Christmas Day. I don't know, But think about

537
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: that week before Christmas. What does the general public do

538
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: during that week? There's not a lot going on?

539
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: You know what we do.

540
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: We sit home and watch bowl games all day. You

541
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: watch the minor Key Car Care Bowl because there's nothing

542
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: else on, and you got time off, you gotta use it.

543
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Before the end of the year, bring everybody to Vegas,

544
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: play five games a day.

545
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 5: Single elimination in in the middle of December.

546
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Speaker 2: This whole thing of something's agree like like and oh,

547
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: by the way, we're gonna have regular season games that

548
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: count towards the cup standings, but some games don't count

549
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: towards the cup standings. It's like the whole thing is

550
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: just needlessly confusing. We called it a mid season tournament.

551
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 2: Play it more towards the middle of the season. By

552
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: the way, maybe it's after the new year when college

553
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: football's died down and there's not as much going on

554
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: during the week. In the NFL, I don't know. Maybe

555
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: it is after Christmas Day. Bring everybody to one place,

556
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: play a single elimination tournament. And then oh, by the way,

557
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: I don't know it just you know, you get everybody

558
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: in one place, it's more incentive.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just I'm just thinking, let me

560
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: tell you we'll get First off, I really like the idea,

561
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: and I'd be all four watching something like that. Again,

562
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: if everybody cared, how about you just gong the All

563
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: Star Game and All Star Week and make that All

564
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: Star break turn your star a single elimination. Well fine,

565
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Speaker 3: I don't care. No, I know there's there's there's challenge,

566
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: and just hear, I don't think doing it in week five.

567
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: I understand why you would try to do it then,

568
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: because you want to try and get people watching your

569
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: sport faster. But I think you're gonna have a harder

570
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 3: time maybe with that, but you're definitely gonna have a

571
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: harder time with the players being where they need to

572
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: be because a lot of them aren't really at full

573
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: speed by week five, like a lot of them are

574
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: still kind of lathering up and getting ready for the season.

575
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: You don't see their best basketball until after Christmas early

576
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: in January. So yeah, you're right, you would need some

577
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: kind of break, and they pretty much don't do much

578
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: on All Star Week. So I don't know how you

579
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: would do it. Maybe you take a week off after

580
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: the tournament, a complete week off where everybody you go,

581
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: you go for broken this single elimination tournament winners twenty

582
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: million dollars or something. It goes to some great charity

583
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: or something like that, and some kind of stipen for

584
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: the players, something to where they care. And then afterwards

585
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: you give them an actual week off where they do

586
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing, none of them do, and then they get

587
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: back to action. I don't know. I mean, hopefully this

588
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: thing works because it could be fun.

589
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 2: I agree, it feels like there is a skeleton of

590
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: something really good there.

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 5: And I'll just say, is that any any great thing?

592
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: You know?

593
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: The first time you do it, it's never gonna be perfect.

594
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tear down the NBA they're trying.

595
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,200
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Speaker 5: Let's do it first time.

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Speaker 2: News desk to Sager, by the way, really quick, you're

603
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: as sharp as anybody.

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Speaker 5: Is this thing a little confusing on paper to you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? It reminds me. I see the w NBA scores

606
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 8: that are going to be listed at the bottom of

607
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Speaker 8: the screen, and it says this one is for the

608
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 8: Commissioner's Cup. Sure, yeah, I say, wait a minute, this

609
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 8: is a tournament game and that's not a turn Yeah,

610
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 8: this is okay. Yeah, like wake me up when you've

611
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 8: decided something that's whatever.

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Speaker 2: Reminds Yeah, And like I said, I know I'm very

613
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: critical of the NBA. I'm not trying to tear down

614
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: and outside the box idea.

615
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Speaker 5: I just find it.

616
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: I spent like literally twenty five minutes looking at that

617
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: press release trying to make sense.

618
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Speaker 5: Of it all today. Sorry to take it forth year.

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Speaker 8: I hope people are into it because the ultimate in

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00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 8: recent sports of man, these guys are really into it

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00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 8: is the World Baseball Classic in March, which was phenomenal. Yes,

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Speaker 8: I mean I almost wish it could be longer or more,

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00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 8: you know, just practically it won't be at any other

624
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Speaker 8: time of the season. But what we got at least

625
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 8: was phenomenal. Well, what we've got as a college basketball

626
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Speaker 8: story for you and listen to this metro News in

627
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Speaker 8: West Virginia has been on top of this. Former West

628
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Speaker 8: Virginia men's basketball head coach Bob Huggins has sent a

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Speaker 8: letter to the university demanding to be reinstated or he

630
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Speaker 8: will sue. He claims he never resigned. Last month, Huggins

631
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 8: was arrested again for a DUI. Within forty eight eight hours,

632
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Speaker 8: the school released a statement. He's resigned.

633
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: Yes when the statement came out, at least that's.

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Speaker 8: What the school said. And so then a week later

635
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Speaker 8: they hire a Huggins assistant as interim head coach. And

636
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Speaker 8: yet a letter dated yesterday from a Cleveland law firm

637
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Speaker 8: and I'm staring at it right now, to E. Gordon Gee,

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00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 8: Office of the President West Virginia University. It says, in part,

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Speaker 8: the purpose of this letter is to update West Virginia

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Speaker 8: on Coach huggins current status and to plan his return

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Speaker 8: to active duties as head basketball coach. Coach Huggins does

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Speaker 8: not desire litigation. Rather, he is simply looking for the

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Speaker 8: correction of a clear breach of his employment agreement with WVU.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 8: Talk about mixed messages from lawyers.

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Speaker 5: So does that mean that he wants the job back?

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Speaker 8: You just want Yes, he assumes the job is still

648
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 8: his because he says he has never actually resigned.

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Speaker 2: I will say that night, if you remember, there was

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Speaker 2: like weird reports about he won't coach this year, and

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Speaker 2: then it was this, and then it was he'll resign.

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Speaker 5: It was a confusing night and we might have to

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Speaker 5: talk about this on the other side here.

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Speaker 8: But the lawyer's side says, we understand that the purported

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Speaker 8: resignation is incredibly based on a text message from the

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Speaker 8: coach's wife. And it goes on to a page two

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Speaker 8: and a page three astounding that this is not settled, Bob,

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Speaker 8: for your own legacy, one go, let it go. Step aside.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and his lead assistant got the job like Kenny

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Speaker 2: Spiral coach.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, forget that whole national search thing. By the way,

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Speaker 8: with this going on, San Antonio Spurs gave coach Greg

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Speaker 8: Popovich a new five year contract, reportedly worth more than

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Speaker 8: eighty million dollars. And yes, the NBA announced the format

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Speaker 8: for its new n season tournament, which will take place

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Speaker 8: mostly in November. The finalist. December ninth NBA Summer League

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Speaker 8: in Vegas started yesterday. It'll go through July the seventeenth,

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Speaker 8: by the way. In men soccer Gold Cup quarterfinals, so

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Speaker 8: this weekend on FS one right now, Mexico is scoreless

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Speaker 8: mid first half in Dallas against Costa Rica, and US

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Speaker 8: Men's soccer plays Sunday night in its quarterfinal against Canada

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Speaker 8: eight pm Eastern time. That's FS one tomorrow from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 8: Megan Rapino will retire from pro soccer after this year.

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Speaker 8: US women's soccer plays in exhibition tomorrow in San Jose

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Speaker 8: against Wales before it leaves to the Women's World Cup

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Speaker 8: at Wimbledon. Number one Carlos Alcarez won his third round

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Speaker 8: match today in baseball at Detroit in a two to

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Speaker 8: nothing win over Toronto. The Tigers pitched a combined no hitter,

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Speaker 8: winning pitcher Matt Manning went six and two third innings.

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Speaker 8: Minnesota lost at home Cleveland one at home. Guardians are

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Speaker 8: alone and first in the AL Central. Cincinnati and eight

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Speaker 8: to five win at Milwaukee. The first place reds Now

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Speaker 8: two games up on the Brewers in the NL Central.

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Speaker 8: Ellie Dala Cruz three straight stolen bases in the bottom

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Speaker 8: of the seventh inning. Arizona in ten innings beat Pittsburgh

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Speaker 8: three to two. Atlanta wins again six to one at

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Speaker 8: Tampa Bay, and the Rays have lost seven in a

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Speaker 8: row just two late games. To mention, Dodgers are up

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Speaker 8: eight nothing on the Angels in the bottom of the fifth.

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Speaker 8: Home runs for the Dodgers Freddie Freeman, Max Munsey and

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Speaker 8: Mookie Betts his twenty sixth of the year already, it

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Speaker 8: was a leadoff homer, his tenth leadoff homer of the

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Speaker 8: year already. Padres lead three to nothing against the Mets,

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Speaker 8: bottom of the second.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday aeron Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: Jason will come back react to maybe both of those

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Speaker 2: coaching stories. Because I wanted to hit on Popovich, Bob Huggins.

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Speaker 3: That Huggins thing is something else, man.

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Speaker 2: I might need to you know, I thought the I

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Speaker 2: thought the the mid season NBA tournament was confusing. This

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Speaker 2: Huggins report is insane for people who just missed what

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Speaker 2: the Sager said. He is now suing the school because

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Speaker 2: he said he never resigned. Well the US that next

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Speaker 5: So Jason.

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Speaker 2: Before the break, the sager tipped us off to a

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Speaker 2: very very interesting story out of West Virginia. Obviously a

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Speaker 2: couple weeks ago, Bob Huggins was arrested for a dui.

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Speaker 2: We know that details by now basically three times the

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Speaker 2: legal limit, and as we were just talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: the whole thing kind of played out while we were

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Speaker 2: on air as I vivid the remember you know, there

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Speaker 2: being reports of first of all, you know he's not

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Speaker 2: gonna coach this year, and then is he gonna be fired,

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Speaker 2: and then we find out that he quote unquote resigned,

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Speaker 2: and so the latest twist in this is, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it's worth noting since it's going on in

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Speaker 2: real time here Metro News. Metro News out in West

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Speaker 2: Virginia is now reporting that Bob Huggins is demanding reinstatement

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Speaker 2: as the head coach of West Virginia. A letter from

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Speaker 2: his attorneys to the school sent on July seventh, so

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Speaker 2: that was yesterday Friday. He is requesting a return to

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Speaker 2: his position. He does not seek litigation and is simply

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Speaker 2: looking for the correction of a clear breach of his

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Speaker 2: employment agreement with West Virginia. A little confusing, but it

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Speaker 2: appears as though Bob Huggins believes that he never resigned

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Speaker 2: and wants his job back. And if he doesn't get

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Speaker 2: a job back, you're gonna hear from his lawyers. I

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Speaker 2: know where you stand, Jason, but the floor is yours.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I would just say this, like, I know,

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Speaker 3: the clarification is that you know, he hasn't sued. He's

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Speaker 3: just threatening to. It's almost like I don't want to

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Speaker 3: assue you, but I will like that. That's kind of

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Speaker 3: it's one of those kind of threats. I said it

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Speaker 3: before the break. It's just a bad look at this

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Speaker 3: point for Huggins. It's not like what he did, he

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Speaker 3: didn't do. He's not arguing that, he's just arguing he

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Speaker 3: didn't resign. I don't know the details of what happened whatever,

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Speaker 3: And maybe he's just trying to get a little bit

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Speaker 3: more money on the way out the door or something

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Speaker 3: like that. But it's a horrible, horrible look at this point.

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Speaker 3: You would just kind of hope for his reputation's sake

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Speaker 3: that you just stand down and just let this thing go.

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Speaker 3: But like you, if you make this and you get

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Speaker 3: very belligerent about it, and you make this into something,

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Speaker 3: if you basically it's like causing a scene at a restaurant,

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Speaker 3: then we're gonna notice a whole lot more what happened.

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Speaker 3: Like it's not that I had completely forgotten what happened

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Speaker 3: to Huggins. I knew why he wasn't there, But a

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Speaker 3: lot of sports fans the page turns in about twenty

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Speaker 3: four hours because there's something else that happens. When you

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Speaker 3: put yourself back into the news on something like this,

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Speaker 3: it's not ever going to reflect well on you. So

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Speaker 3: to come out and say he's not gonna come back,

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Speaker 3: he's not getting the job back. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: what you're trying to do here unless you're just trying

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Speaker 3: to fleece somebody for money. And again, that's just kind

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Speaker 3: of seedy considering the circumstances, you know, around which you

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Speaker 3: lost your job in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Well, and beyond that, a couple of things, I mean, one,

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Speaker 2: the school went to bat for him literally a month

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Speaker 2: before when he obviously had those you know, homophobic, homophobic

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Speaker 2: comments on sports talk radio and listen. I you know,

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Speaker 2: I was actually on vacation when all this happened. But

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Speaker 2: you know, my personal opinion was, hey, whatever the reason

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Speaker 2: he was that he said it, it's completely inappropriate. But

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Speaker 2: I actually was thought it was okay by me that

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Speaker 2: West Virginia allowed him to keep the job pending that

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Speaker 2: he took some sensitivity training and things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: So the school went to bat for you one. But

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Speaker 2: I think the important part, Jason is, like you said,

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Speaker 2: I mean, a couple of things. One, whether you resigned, whatever,

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Speaker 2: whatever the circumstances were that that you left, it was

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Speaker 2: because you did something like not only terribly embarrassing to you,

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Speaker 2: your employer, and your university. You put a lot of

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Speaker 2: people in danger, and like basically that that's my big

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Speaker 2: takeaway is is you still committed the action that led

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Speaker 2: to this situation, whether you want to term it a

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Speaker 2: resignation of firing or whatever. And then two like you're

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Speaker 2: also I don't know. I I'm just trying to think

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Speaker 2: out loud here and talk it talk it out loud.

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Speaker 2: But you have a situation where one of your your

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Speaker 2: guys got the job, now you're undercutting him. The players

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00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: have been through enough, you know, some of them have

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Speaker 2: already entered the portal. Some have vowed to come back

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Speaker 2: to kind of build on the legacy of this year

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Speaker 2: that you sold them.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's a weird deal.

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Speaker 2: And I think the disappointing thing is it doesn't take

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Speaker 2: away from what happened. You're not claiming that the reason

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Speaker 2: you lost your job isn't accurate. We all read the

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Speaker 2: police report that is accurate. It's just a weird deal.

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Speaker 2: It just makes him look really bad.

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Speaker 3: Ja's it does, it's and again it puts the spotlight

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Speaker 3: back on him. The only thing that I can think of,

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Speaker 3: if it's not just to try and get a little

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Speaker 3: bit of money, which may or may not work. Probably

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Speaker 3: not would be he realizes what he lost. He did

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Speaker 3: what he knew he had to do in the moment,

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Speaker 3: and then he realized he loved being a basketball coach,

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Speaker 3: and he realized that he doesn't have that anymore. And

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Speaker 3: he's trying grabbing its straws, desperately trying to get his

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Speaker 3: job back because he feels like, look, I can get

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Speaker 3: this under control. I don't want my career to end.

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Speaker 3: I'm not that old, and I still love doing this.

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Speaker 3: That's the only other thing that I could say. Either way,

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Speaker 3: he's done. Either way, he's definitely not coming back to

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Speaker 3: West Virginia. But because of this, I would say for

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Speaker 3: sure he's not going to be anywhere. Like it's it's

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Speaker 3: probably a rap for him here, and it's unfortunate because

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Speaker 3: this is just a bad way to go out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's sixty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I know that a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: have gotten second chances, including him, By the way, I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's a situation where he is going to

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Speaker 2: get one here or anywhere. It just makes him look bad.

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Speaker 2: It's just a weird situation overall again for people who

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Speaker 2: are just tuning in. Bob Huggins sent a letter to

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Speaker 2: West Virginia asking for reinstatement. Fox Sports Radio eron Torres,

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Speaker 5: As the sager just told you.

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Speaker 2: One of the games that is currently in progress in

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, Dodgers up nine to two on the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Angels, and why that's story, Why that game

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Speaker 2: is interesting. It leads to our next conversation. I should mention,

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Speaker 2: by the way, MLB insider jp M John Paul Morosi

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Speaker 2: will be joining us here in about twenty minutes, and

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Speaker 2: he's going to be joining us to talk about an

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Speaker 2: article that he published this week. Jason, So we obviously

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk o Tani right now. Just such a

850
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: dynamic player Leeds major League Baseball with thirty one home runs,

851
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Speaker 2: fifth and RBI. Obviously having an elite season as a

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Speaker 2: pitcher as well. You know, got pulled the other night

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Speaker 2: for a blister or whatever. But he will obviously be

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Speaker 2: a part of this week's All Star festivities. But unfortunately,

855
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: a season that started off pretty well for the Angels

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00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: has not gone well as of late, most notably earlier

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Speaker 2: this week when Mike Trout suffered an injury I believe

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Speaker 2: it was on July fourth. He is now out for

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Speaker 2: the extent, for an extended period of time, and so

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Speaker 2: so it has again brought up this conversation about the

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Speaker 2: future of show Heyotani coming into you know, not only

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Speaker 2: the year, but really the last couple of weeks. I

863
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: think it was pretty clear that the Angels were not

864
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: going to trade Otani. Bottom line being is that, you know,

865
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: they were as of a couple of weeks ago again

866
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: in the thick of the playoff race, at one point

867
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: had the second or third best record in the league

868
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: early in the season. But with the Angels now struggling

869
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: again with Mike Trout out for an extended period of time,

870
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: I think a lot of conversation has been should they

871
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: consider it now? I bring it up to say this, Jason.

872
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: I googled show Hey Otani trade, and the first article

873
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: that came up was from our guest in about fifteen minutes,

874
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, and again he seemed to indicate that

875
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: he does not believe that shoe Heotani will be traded,

876
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: and he lists a bunch of reasons why. From your perspective,

877
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: I know you love baseball, Jason, but this to me

878
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: is is, you know, maybe the most fascinating baseball story

879
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: that we've had in some time, because you're talking about

880
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: an elite hitter and an elite pitcher, but a guy that,

881
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: since he came to the Bigs in twenty seventeen, has

882
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: really not played any real meaningful baseball And it looks

883
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: like we're gonna go another summer into the fall without

884
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: him doing so. Again, he'll be a free agent in

885
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: this offseason. He will demand a ton of money. Of course,

886
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: the Angels are not only struggling on the field, but

887
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: they have Mike Trout's contract, they have Anthony Rendon's contract.

888
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: Where are you at with Shohei Otani's future, Jason? Because

889
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: I think this will be the big story going into

890
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: the All Star Break, coming out of the All Star Break,

891
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: and frankly even going into the offseason as this regular

892
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: season unfold.

893
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I read Jeff Passonspeaks of ESPN, where he's

894
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: at least laying out the case as to how Otani's

895
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: June might be the best month an MLB player has

896
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: ever had, which is covering obviously a lot of ground,

897
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: and then I read Morosi's piece at MLB dot Com.

898
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to chatting with him about it in

899
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: the next segment. It's unthinkable, right because him playing with

900
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: the Angels means so few people get to see what

901
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: he's actually doing live. They usually just see it via highlights,

902
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 3: some show something on a phone, something on social media

903
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: the next day maybe, or something like that. But if

904
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: you're the Angels, he's pretty much the only reason anybody's

905
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: coming to the yard to see your team, especially with

906
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: Mike Trout. And Morosi makes the point in his article

907
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: that if you were going to maximize the value, you

908
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: do it last year and then you build on it,

909
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: why would you do it right now? You know there

910
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: are viewership numbers to be taken into account. There's revenue,

911
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: there's all of these things that go on. I feel like,

912
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: for baseball's sake, he needs to be somewhere else. But

913
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: at the same time, we're still paying attention, like it's

914
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: ridiculous what he's doing. We can talk about the money

915
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: that he could command and all of this, and I

916
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: don't even know honestly, Like that's a discussion that's so

917
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: difficult to even fathom because of his value on both sides.

918
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: That's just something and we have not seen before. It's

919
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: kind of unprecedented really in modern times. So you really

920
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: look at it, it's just I don't know, like it

921
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: seems like you could get a ton of value out

922
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: of him. But Morosi's points and the way that he

923
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: lays them out and we'll have him do it for

924
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: us in the next segment, are pretty convincing that he's

925
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: still gonna be with the Angels. I don't know that

926
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: that's the best thing for baseball. It's good that any

927
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: team could have a show hey Otani, but there's just

928
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: no there couldn't There could almost be no more boring

929
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: place for him to be than where he happens to be,

930
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: even though he might be the most must sye athlete

931
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: right now in all the pro sports.

932
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: It's it's fascinating because I just look at this and say, like,

933
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: you know, when I look at this, is that I

934
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: just think a couple of things. Is one, First of all,

935
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: you mentioned maximizing the contract and the this and the

936
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: that and and the hall that you can get, and

937
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: it was interesting. I was on with Jason Smith last

938
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: night and talked a lot about this, and Jason and

939
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: I actually agree. Jason is of the belief that you

940
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: have to get something for show. Hey, Otani, I actually

941
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: think it's the exact opposite. Is there is no way

942
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: going into a free agency year that you are actually

943
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: going to be able to get the value that the best,

944
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, the most gifted player in baseball would demand.

945
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: And so like I actually think, and again I don't

946
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: want to steal everything from JP's article. Obviously we'll talk

947
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: to him about it in ten minutes, but I think

948
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: he brings up a really good point which is pretty simple,

949
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: and that is that you know, if you do care

950
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: about maximizing you know, even one, if you cared about

951
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: maximizing the trade hall, you do it last year.

952
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 5: But here's the other thing.

953
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: Otani is still going to bring eyeballs and crowds to

954
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: your team. Based on the season that he's having, he

955
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: has thirty one home runs right now, he's on paced

956
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: at fifty six home runs. He could be approaching sixty,

957
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 2: sixty one, sixty two. We know those mythical numbers, those

958
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: magical numbers in Major League Baseball. So I guess you know,

959
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: it's interesting to me, And you know, I think Bernie

960
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: is even gonna talk about a little bit with us

961
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 2: later because he's plugged in everywhere. But this is one

962
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: where I get why there's interest right like, and you know, listen,

963
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: it's a it's a great topic for us to discuss.

964
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: But I also think there's no way you're gonna be

965
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: able to get fair market value. There are reasons to

966
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: keep him, and I wonder if as interesting of a

967
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: conversation it is if it just doesn't really make sense

968
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: for them to trade him.

969
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 5: And that's kind of where I'm at is.

970
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: I think it makes for a great conversation, but I

971
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 2: do wonder if you know, the Mic Trout injury opened

972
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: up a conversation and then we kind of have a

973
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: news cycle where people just piggyback off of each other.

974
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: I get the idea of not wanting to walk for

975
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: him to walk out and get nothing for him, but

976
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: you're going to get a lot in the process if

977
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: he keeps playing, and so it's fascinating. I'm just at

978
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: the point where and we'll pick JP's brain on this momentarily,

979
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: but I'm at the point where I think you keep them,

980
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: you maximize everything he's worth, maybe you get yourself back

981
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: in the playoff race. I don't think you trade him, Jason.

982
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fascinating to talk to JP and

983
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: then obviously watch this story unfold over the next couple

984
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: of weeks.

985
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: So the Angels I think are seven games out. Texas

986
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: is leading that division. I think the Astros are two

987
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: games back. It's not like a it's not a wall

988
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: of division. It's not like impossible. They could they could

989
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: get back in, but they're not a They're not a

990
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: great baseball team. However, if he's chasing some kind of

991
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 3: massive history at the end of the year, you'd kind

992
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: of want that to be in your uniform. And if

993
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: he's gonna go to free agency and leave anyway, I

994
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: don't know who's gonna trade for him to be a

995
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: mercenary for short term unless they think they're keeping him

996
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: along exam And if they're gonna do that, then just

997
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: offer him the money and don't give anything in return.

998
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: That's that's maybe the biggest thing. It's just there's no

999
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: reason to take him on early. If you're gonna get

1000
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: him later, you just go ahead and pay him and

1001
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: then and Morossi makes this point his article, and he's

1002
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: dead right. So the Angels want to keep him obviously

1003
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: because he show hey Otani, they offer him an insane contract,

1004
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 3: and then another team offers him an insane contract. He

1005
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: goes with the other team. You can't fault the Angels.

1006
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: They threw everything in the world at him, and he

1007
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: went somewhere else. That's the best point I think Morossi

1008
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: makes any entire article, is there's no reason to move

1009
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: him right now because if he's going to leave, everyone

1010
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: already knows that anyway, and there's not really any value

1011
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: in another team doing it early if they can just

1012
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: get him a few months later.

1013
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: By the way, as you were talking, Jason, Ohtani just

1014
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: hit number thirty two, a monster blast to right center field.

1015
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: Guy is such a freaking monster, Like, okay, you know,

1016
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 2: we could talk trade in a minute.

1017
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 5: Jason, I know that.

1018
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: It's like cliche and there are things that you know

1019
00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: you can't there's no real words at this point. We

1020
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: are watching something so incredible, so unprecedented, and we're gonna

1021
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: talk trade with Morosy in a minute. But like you're

1022
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: a baseball fan, I'm I'm not as big of a

1023
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: baseball fan, but I appreciate greatness. Just watching this guy

1024
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: every night is such a privilege. And I know because

1025
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: he's in the in Los Angeles, it's a little harder

1026
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: to find his games. What he is doing is so incredible,

1027
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: It is so awesome. I love everything about this guy.

1028
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: I hate that it comes down to a conversation about

1029
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: is he gonna get traded? That's the only way we're

1030
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: gonna talk about him. This guy is so unbelievable. Sho

1031
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: hey o tani as we're talking about him hits number

1032
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: thirty two at Dodger Stadium.

1033
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 3: Jayson, Yeah, I mean it's he's a unicorn. There's there's

1034
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: no other way to put it. And what's amazing. Here's

1035
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: how great he is. All right, And this is not

1036
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: me trying to weasel this into the conversation, because it's

1037
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: legitimate to mention this Ronald Acunya Junior in Atlanta is

1038
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: having maybe the greatest year a leadoff hit or has

1039
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: ever had, and that includes Ricky Henderson. He's doing preposterous

1040
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: stuff and he's probably gonna have a historic number attached

1041
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: to his name at the end of this year. And

1042
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: it's kind of going under the radar because of what

1043
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: Otani is doing. And look, that's fine, like I get it,

1044
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: they're both having insane years. What Acuna is doing would

1045
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: be everywhere, and that's a sixty win team in Atlanta,

1046
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: by the way, But for what Otani is doing, like

1047
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: one of the great seasons a leof hitter has ever had,

1048
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: is not really receiving the kind of pub that it

1049
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: otherwise would because of this unicorn that now has thirty

1050
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: two dingers and is somehow even better as a pitcher

1051
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: now than when he got there. It's just stupid in

1052
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: the best possible way. Like I don't know even what

1053
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 3: to compare him to, because we just in our lifetime

1054
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: haven't seen anything like this, and that's why it's so amazing,

1055
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: and it's such a boom for baseball. Like if you

1056
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: start to look past Otani, watch the All Star game

1057
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: this week. Guys like watch this thing because some of

1058
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: these young guys are real good. There's the league's in

1059
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: good shape from a player perspective, There's a lot of

1060
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 3: young talent to watch. There's a lot of exciting guys

1061
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: to watch. Dela Cruz in Cincinnati. There's all sorts of

1062
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: stuff going on in baseball, and oh yeah, probably the

1063
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: most mustcy athlete right now in all of pro sports,

1064
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: maybe with the possible exception of the you know sorcerer

1065
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: in Kansas City that is their quarterback, Patrick Mahomes.

1066
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: It is so unbelievable, and I'm so you know, listen,

1067
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, and this is a thing that I've said

1068
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 2: about Lebron James for years, is the people that try

1069
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: to tear down Lebron James are essentially arguing that he's

1070
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: the second best person that has ever lived to play basketball.

1071
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: And while I get if you hold the gun to

1072
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: my head and ask me Lebron versus m J, I'll

1073
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: have an answer for you. But I also just genuinely

1074
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Speaker 2: this story during the playoffs, is you know, I remember

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Speaker 2: having the conversation with you, well, if Burrow beats Mahomes

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Speaker 2: again in the AFC Championship game, what does it mean?

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Speaker 2: And I'll admit I tried to make it a thing.

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Speaker 2: And then I watched Mahomes in that AFC Championship game

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Speaker 2: and he was awesome and Burrow was awesome, and I said,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I don't need to tear down one

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Speaker 2: to elevate the other. They're both awesome. I need to

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Speaker 2: appreciate watching both of them. And I feel the exact

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Speaker 2: same way about Otani. For those just joining us, show

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Speaker 2: Heyotani just hit number thirty two at Dodgers Stadium. Fox

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Speaker 2: author of that article about show Heyotani, our Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio MLB insider. He is going to join us next.

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Speaker 2: So excited to talk to Jp about out Otani, the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game, everything going on across Baseball.

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Speaker 5: JP Morosi, Next, Fox.

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Speaker 2: don't want to waste any more time. Want to get

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Speaker 2: to the man of the hour. Because when you search

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Speaker 2: on Google show, hey Otani trade, you know who shows up?

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Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, our Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider. I

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Speaker 2: was reading Morosi today. What I needed the Otani scoop?

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Jp, Aaron and Jason. I'm outstanding, my friends. Great to

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Speaker 4: be with you on this beginning of All Star weekend

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Speaker 4: the great city of Seattle. I know they'll do a

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00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: great job hosting all the events. Of course, the Futures

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Speaker 4: Game today, celebrity Softball game today, as well of the

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Speaker 4: Draft tomorrow and yes show a Otani the focus on

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Speaker 4: and off the field.

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Speaker 9: Right now, all right, JP.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to like the stuff that everyone wants

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Speaker 2: to hear, I just want to know from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: I've known you for a long time, and I know

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00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: nobody loves the sport of baseball more than you. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to the trade, we'll get to the offseason, all

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Speaker 2: that in a minute. But for a guy who loves baseball,

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Speaker 2: for a guy who watches this sport for six seven

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Speaker 2: straight months a year, how much of a privilege is

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Speaker 2: it to watch this guy we were talking about him

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Speaker 2: last segment JP.

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Speaker 5: And he hits another home run league leading thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Again, is how much of a privilege is it just

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Speaker 2: to get to watch this once in a history of

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Speaker 2: the sport type player.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you framed it that way, because when

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Speaker 4: we take a step back, let's remember where we were

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Speaker 4: around this time last season, Aaron Judge and the pace

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Speaker 4: that he was on, and where Aaron Judge's season wound

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Speaker 4: up at sixty two home runs with of course, a

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Speaker 4: new American League record. Well, O'tani is basically trending almost

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Speaker 4: on the same pace. He's due to finish in the

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Speaker 4: high fifties. But he gets hot, Certainly, sixty becomes very possible.

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Speaker 4: But think about that. We're talking about someone who is

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Speaker 4: now within range of what Aaron Judge did last season,

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Speaker 4: and oh, by the way, he's also one of the

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Speaker 4: best pitchers in the planet. There's just there is no

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Speaker 4: precedent for this, and I think Aaron and Jason for me,

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Speaker 4: why we struggle a lot as an American sports community

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Speaker 4: to put him into context. It's because we as a

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00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: sports society thrive on comparison. We've compared Lebron to Michael Jordan.

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00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 4: We've compared Rosby to Gretzky. We for a while compared

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 4: Brady to Manning or Brady to Montana. There is no

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00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 4: comparison for showy O Tani, no one. You cannot compare

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: him to Ruth. He's doing things better and for a

1152
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 4: longer amount of time than the Bambino did. And so

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00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 4: we are in a rare place for us in twenty

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00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 4: twenty three, which is just be there, present in the

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Speaker 4: moment and appreciate it. When you listen to Yo Yo

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00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: Ma played the cello, you're not trying to think about

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00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 4: anybody else that ever played the cello, because he's probably

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Speaker 4: the greatest. And the same thing is true with show

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Speaker 4: he just enjoy it. This is this is Billy Joel

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Speaker 4: playing in Madison Square Garden, this is Bruce Springsteen playing

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Speaker 4: in the meadowlands. Just enjoy it, full stop. There is

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Speaker 4: no comparison that has to be made, needs to be made.

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Speaker 4: We are all just witnessing and enjoying what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, Aaron, he's getting better by the week.

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Speaker 3: So John, I'm gonna do the same thing I did

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Speaker 3: in the last segment, which is trying to make this

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Speaker 3: not come across selfish because it's really another feather in

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Speaker 3: Otani's cap. But you know, I'm a Braves fan. This

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00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: is a sixty win team. Ronald 'cunya junior right now

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Speaker 3: is having maybe the greatest season a leadoff hitter has

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Speaker 3: ever had, doing obscene things, and he's likely to make

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Speaker 3: history at the end of this year as well. And

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Speaker 3: it's sort of sliding under the radar because of the

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00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: unicorn out there that we've been discussing for the better

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Speaker 3: part of the last segment and a half. Now, that's

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Speaker 3: just preposterous, Like you have guys in both leagues and

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Speaker 3: Otani is just dwarfing everything that just has to be

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Speaker 3: the best possible reality for baseball.

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Speaker 6: Well it is.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, Akunya has a chance to be

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Speaker 4: the first ever forty homer fifty stolen based player ever. Ever,

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Speaker 4: so again someone doing something that's never been done before.

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Speaker 4: Ronald d'acunya Junior is in the same categy, speaking of

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00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: which we just saw tonight Ellie day La Cruz steal

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 4: three bases in the span of one plate appearance, including home.

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Speaker 4: So here's here's the crazy thing.

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Speaker 9: And this is.

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Speaker 4: And this is something I feel reasonably sure in saying

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Speaker 4: from sheer entertainment value, can't take your eyes off the screen.

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Speaker 4: Ellie is right up there with with a Kunya or

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Speaker 4: Otani in terms of just the magnetism of watching him perform.

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Speaker 4: And this is where I think it's fun in baseball.

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Speaker 4: The way the game has evolved and the way that

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: MLB managed the evolution, the change of the game with

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Speaker 4: the pitch clock and emphasizing athleticism, it has given us

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Speaker 4: a really fun group of players to talk about, to

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Speaker 4: where it's it's not just who's the most valuable player,

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Speaker 4: it's who's the most historic player, who's the most exciting player,

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Speaker 4: And they're not necessarily all the same person, which is,

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Speaker 4: to your point, Jason, very healthy for the game. I

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Speaker 4: think at the end of the day, it's really interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think the World Baseball Classic helped to elevate Otani

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01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: this spring around the world and certainly in our country.

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Speaker 4: But and you both know this because you talk about

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: all the different sports, where you really make your enduring

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01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: impact on the American baseball fan and the American baseball

1207
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 4: community is in October. That's when you do it. The

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Speaker 4: reason why Derek Jeter, of course Hall of Famer for many,

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Speaker 4: many reasons, but the reason he became such an easily

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Speaker 4: identifiable star in our country is that he shows up

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Speaker 4: in ninety five and in ninety six the Yankee Dynasty begins,

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Speaker 4: and Derek Jeter is on your television set everywhere in

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Speaker 4: the country for the next decade and a half playing

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Speaker 4: in the postseason. And that is really hard to replicate

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Speaker 4: when you're not playing in October. Which is why I

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Speaker 4: love the conversations about Otani and Akunya and dey La Cruz.

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Speaker 4: And it will be to me, will get even better

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Speaker 4: if all three of them find a way to play

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Speaker 4: in the postseason this year.

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Speaker 5: All right, JP, let's not beat around the bush. Anymore.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, it has become a topic, especially following Mike Trout's injury.

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the week Otani's future with the Angels. I

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Speaker 2: referenced your article available now at MLB dot com. Don't

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01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: want to put words in your mouth, but it feels

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Speaker 2: as though from your sourcing and the people that you're

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Speaker 2: talking to, you don't believe Otani will be traded.

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Speaker 5: I get I guess my question would be two parts.

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Speaker 2: I would love for you to explain, you know, your

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Speaker 2: logic and your explanation for why you don't believe that

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Speaker 2: he'll ultimately be traded, But two, given that there's no

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Speaker 2: guarantee that he signs with you, I just it's the

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Speaker 2: weird dichotomy of the Angels. I understand you don't want

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Speaker 2: them to leave for nothing, but also you can't give

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Speaker 2: him away. And then obviously any team trading for him,

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Speaker 2: is it guaranteed to keep him after this year. This

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Speaker 2: isn't Wan Soda who still had time on his contract.

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Speaker 2: So long story short, that's a terrible setup to a question, JP,

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Speaker 2: But the floor is yours on where we are with

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Speaker 2: a potential or not potential of tiny trade.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I think it's a really great question. It's an

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Speaker 4: important question. He I still believe will end this season

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Speaker 4: with the Los Angeles Angels, and it's very difficult to

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Speaker 4: find people in the industry right now who say that

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Speaker 4: they believe there is a strong chance that he's going

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Speaker 4: to get traded.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Interestingly that as you look at the big picture, the

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: Angels have not really come out in the last few

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Speaker 4: days since the Trout injury, and also just since the

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Speaker 4: team has been playing so poorly they've been basically the

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Speaker 4: worst team in the American League for the last three weeks.

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Speaker 4: They've not come out and reiterated, definitively declaratively that he's

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Speaker 4: not going anywhere. I think that there is, as we speak,

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Speaker 4: probably still a segment of the Angels front office that

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Speaker 4: would encourage the organization to explore the possibility of trading Otani.

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Speaker 4: That they're losing again by what six runs right now,

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Speaker 4: They've lost eight of ten, so this now becomes nine

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Speaker 4: of eleven, the level losing record of the All Star

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Speaker 4: Break that they've almost been passed by by the Seattle Mariners.

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Speaker 4: There's not a ton of hope right now. But this

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Speaker 4: is not a rational decision because we're talking about the greatest,

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Speaker 4: And I really think that when you look at the

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Speaker 4: big picture, anytime you watch an Angel game, look at

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Speaker 4: the outfield, how many of the signs the marketing are

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Speaker 4: really a celebration of Japanese companies and a partnership of

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Speaker 4: Japanese companies and culture. It's a huge part of the

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Speaker 4: way that the team is branded and the way that

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Speaker 4: show A is branded. And to trade a player of

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Speaker 4: his value when he might well get to sixty home runs,

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Speaker 4: that's asking a lot of an organization and a leadership

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01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 4: to walk into the ballpark and for no matter how

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Speaker 4: logical it would be to trade him if you're below

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01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 4: five hundred, to get all the prospects you can, as

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01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 4: logical as it would be, you the owner, you the

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01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 4: team president, you the GM would have to walk in

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01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: that ballpark every day, and you are the people who

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Speaker 4: traded the greatest player we've ever seen. And that's just

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Speaker 4: a hard thing to have in front of you. It's

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Speaker 4: in a certain way, and this might be a little

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01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 4: bit narrow of a perspective, but the Angels, probably in

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: their heart of hearts, know that the chances of them

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01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: signing show a long term are pretty remote. And yet

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Speaker 4: at least if you take it to the offseason, offer

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Speaker 4: him half a billion dollars. He says no, then you

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Speaker 4: can tell your fans. Listen, we tried. We offered him

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Speaker 4: the largest contract that's ever existed in baseball. He said no,

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Speaker 4: He went to sign with still in the blank team

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Speaker 4: that has a much better chance of winning right now.

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Speaker 4: And we did our best, And it becomes a little

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Speaker 4: bit easier to explain that even though the baseball decision,

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Speaker 4: the more defensible baseball decision would be if you're under

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Speaker 4: five hundred by four or five games on July twenty

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Speaker 4: eighth or twenty nine, yeah, you probably should put him

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Speaker 4: out there. But I'm just not convinced that's going to

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Speaker 4: happen real.

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Speaker 3: Quick, John, as we're going into the All Star break.

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Speaker 3: That was That was a fantastic answer. I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 3: be talking about it later on the show as well.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is more surprising the positives of

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Speaker 3: teams like the run that you know Cincinnati's put on,

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Speaker 3: or what Baltimore has done this season, or the negatives.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here watching the Mets padres right now on

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Speaker 3: the screen. They considering the payroll of those two teams

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Speaker 3: and the performance in the first half of the season.

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Speaker 3: The positives are the negatives have been more surprising.

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Speaker 4: There more surprising the negatives for me that if you

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Speaker 4: were to tell me on opening day that the Mets

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Speaker 4: and Podres would be under five hundred and the Cardinals,

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Speaker 4: the standard bearer in the National League for so many years,

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Speaker 4: would be well at the bottom of the National League Central,

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Speaker 4: one of the weaker divisions in the sport. Those three

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Speaker 4: teams collectively in the National League are a massive surprise.

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Speaker 4: On the downside, the White Sox, I had high hopes

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Speaker 4: for them, but they've let me down before and I

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Speaker 4: should have known better than to say they were gonna

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Speaker 4: be good this year. So that that's on me. That's

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Speaker 4: the whole foomy once, foomy twice. Thing. But I think

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Speaker 4: the so those stories are more Cardinals, Padres, Mets, but

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Speaker 4: certainly great for baseball to see Baltimore sustainable winner. They're

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Speaker 4: going to the playoffs. Cleveland, look at what they've done.

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Speaker 4: They found a way to get back to the top

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Speaker 4: of the division. Texas all of the All Stars starters

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Speaker 4: they're gonna have, They're a great story. Miami's really emerged.

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Speaker 4: Ao ri Peez has been great. They've got Brian da

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Speaker 4: la Cruz has been really good for them. So some

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Speaker 4: great stories the Reds of course, and one of them

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Speaker 4: as well. But certainly to your point, Jason, more surprised

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Speaker 4: by the negative ones.

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Speaker 5: JP.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me and we can wrap, is that

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Speaker 2: I do want to go back to Otani really quick,

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Speaker 2: assuming that he will not even assuming I mean he

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Speaker 2: will hit the open market at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Obviously him being at Dodger Stadium, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Twitter social media scuttle but oh, you know, he's he's

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01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: putting on a performance for his next fan base or whatever.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the Angels, you know, obviously are going to

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Speaker 2: offer him something, assuming that he's still there at the

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Speaker 2: end of the offseason. What is the realistic that would

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Speaker 2: potentially obviously everyone's going to be interested, but can afford

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01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: him that he would be interested in? And maybe we

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: don't even know that last part, but what is the

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Speaker 2: realistic group of teams that Otani could be on next year?

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Speaker 4: Sure, no, it's a very fair question. I do think

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 4: there's probably still a preference for the West Coast, and

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's not going to say that it's not

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01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 4: going to be declared, but he's He's played his entire

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01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 4: career for a West Coast based team, travel wise easier.

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Speaker 4: I do think that the Dodgers have an excellent chance

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 4: to sign them. I think the Giants are going to

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 4: have a good at bat in there as well. Remember,

1353
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 4: one of the big changes since he first came over

1354
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 4: is the universal DH and he wanted to at the

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01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 4: outset do both. He wanted to be a pitcher and

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 4: a hitter, and the NL teams just struggled to come

1357
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 4: up with a plan that he liked because you would

1358
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 4: have had to either be a pinch hitter or first

1359
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 4: basement or play the outfield. And I just think it

1360
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: wasn't as comfortable of a situation as it was to

1361
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 4: play in the American League. Now that's gone, and I

1362
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 4: think what he's done is he's already put up you know,

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 4: there are certain things that existed before that he had

1364
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 4: to check in terms of boxes to check. You know,

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01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 4: can he have success doing both in Major League Baseball? Yeah? Yeah,

1366
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 4: he can do that. So he's checked that box. He's

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01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 4: won the World Baseball Classic, He's proven that he's got

1368
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 4: a good routine that works and I really think, guys,

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 4: one of the most important things that will be looked

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 4: at by showing and as people this offseason will be okay.

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Speaker 4: It is a unique arrangement. When you've got what amounts

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 4: to a six man rotation and a unique schedule, it

1373
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 4: is not necessarily easy for the other pitchers to handle this.

1374
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: So if you have a rotation with five veteran guys

1375
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 4: who are setting their ways and kind of finicky about

1376
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 4: their routines, to be honest, it's not gonna work. You

1377
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 4: have to have I think, a nice blend of guys

1378
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 4: who are willing to take an extra day here and there,

1379
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 4: pitch on five days rest, whatever it ends up being.

1380
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 4: And I really think that the Dodgers and Giants both

1381
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 4: have the track record of winning and the track record

1382
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: of organizational foresight and thoughtfulness that they'll be able to

1383
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: put together a plan that says, okay, show A, we're

1384
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 4: gonna be able to win, and here's what your fellow

1385
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 4: starting pitchers are willing to do. I think that, to

1386
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 4: me is going to be the really important component, because

1387
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 4: he's gonna have the money is going to be the

1388
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: same roughly no matter where he's going. It's almost like

1389
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 4: Aaron Judge. This past offseason, he ended up actually turning

1390
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 4: down the largest offer from the Potteries because he wanted

1391
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 4: to be a Yankee. And I think that for Show A,

1392
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 4: he's going to go where he can be comfortable in

1393
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 4: terms of his routines, but also where you can win,

1394
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 4: because that's the one thing he has not been able

1395
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 4: to check with Los Angeles Angels.

1396
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Speaker 5: He is our Fox.

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio MLB Inside Make sure to follow him on

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 2: Twitter at John Morosi, John j O n JP.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, so much good insights there. Yeah, we

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01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: appreciate your time always.

1402
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1403
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: I assume you're going to Seattle, so safe travels and

1404
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon.

1405
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 5: Man, thank you.

1406
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 4: My pleas for Aron Jason. Stay in touch my friends

1407
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 4: anytime you reach out, and certainly as the next couple

1408
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 4: of months go ahead, I'll be up late watching a

1409
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: lot of the Women's World Cup soccer as well, so

1410
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 4: give me calling any time on that too.

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that sounds good. Lock it in.

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Speaker 2: JP Morosi, Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider, who will be

1413
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: joining us throughout the rest of the season. He's so

1414
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 2: much good stuff on Major League Baseball coming up. We

1415
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: react to some of the stuff that JP said before

1416
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: we do. Though, let's get over the news desk, Steve

1417
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: de Segar.

1418
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 5: What's trending.

1419
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 8: The Angels are losing again. Man's your lead. They're down

1420
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 8: ten to four at Dodger Stadium. It's top of the ninth,

1421
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 8: but the Halo's had bases loaded, nobody out and show, hey,

1422
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 8: Otani is on deck, so he's gonna get another at bat. Otani,

1423
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 8: as you mentioned, is all already homer tonight. It traveled

1424
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 8: over four hundred and thirty feet to center field, his

1425
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 8: thirty second home run of the season that leads the majors.

1426
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 8: He has tripled tonight. He leads the majors in triples,

1427
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 8: also with six in the first half. He leads the

1428
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 8: majors in total bases so far this year, and as

1429
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 8: a pitcher, he leads the majors in lowest batting average

1430
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 8: against opponents batting one eighty nine against him. The Dodger

1431
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 8: offense has hit five home runs in this game. They're

1432
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 8: up ten to four in the ninth. Otani is just

1433
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 8: stepping to the plate with bases loaded one out. In

1434
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 8: that ninth inning, padres ahead of the Mats three to

1435
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 8: nothing in the top of the six, just one hit

1436
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 8: for New York. Mets have a six game winning streak

1437
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 8: on the line, which is absolutely nothing to the Atlanta Braves,

1438
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 8: who have won nineteen of twenty one. Got another w

1439
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 8: tonight at Tampa Bay six to won the final. The

1440
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 8: Rays have lost seven in a row. Update, looks like

1441
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 8: O'tani has just popped out to left. It counts as

1442
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 8: a sack fly though, and ten five Dodgers is the

1443
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 8: final in the ninth. That's not done yet, but can

1444
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 8: we say out loud, it looks like the Angels are

1445
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 8: going to be under the five hundred mark at All

1446
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 8: Star Break because these two teams, the Dodgers Angels are

1447
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 8: the only ones that don't play tomorrow. They're on All

1448
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 8: Star Break after tonight. Angels will be forty five and

1449
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 8: forty six after an l this evening, Arizona's the first

1450
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 8: place team in the NL West after beating Pittsburgh with

1451
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 8: two runs bottom of the tenth three to two. Miami

1452
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 8: down to Philadelphia five three DH. Bryce Harper of the

1453
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 8: Phillies left after being hit by pitch on the elbow.

1454
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 8: Cincinnati is first place in the NL Central, now two

1455
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 8: games ahead of the Brewers after an eight to five

1456
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 8: win at Milwaukee. That game was on FS one. Why

1457
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 8: don't we listen to what John was referencing there because

1458
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 8: it was only a six ' five Red's lead. Top

1459
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 8: of the seventh, Ellie de la Cruz, the rookie superstar

1460
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 8: for Cincinnati, stole second base and on the next pitch

1461
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 8: he stole third.

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Speaker 10: Even up Dayla Cruise got a massive jump. But they're

1463
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 10: stolen base number three and now let's see he's coming home.

1464
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 10: They wants looking and he touched the play. Guess he did,

1465
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:10,919
Speaker 10: Dayla Bros.

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 8: He just stole second, third, and home in a row

1467
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 8: on two total pitches at Milwaukee. Unbelievable. The Yankees down

1468
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 8: the Cubs six to three, another win for Garrett Cole

1469
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 8: He's nine and two Minnesota loss while Cleveland won, So

1470
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 8: the Guardians are first by half a game in the

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01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 8: AL Central, and the first game of the day saw

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01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 8: a combined no hitter in Detroit Tigers two nothing over Toronto.

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 8: The Spurs game coach Greg Popovich a new five year contract,

1474
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 8: and West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins, through a lawyer,

1475
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 8: says he never resigned and wants his job back. After

1476
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 8: last month's to UI back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve the Saga, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the tyreck dot com studios. Coming up, the Sega just

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Speaker 2: touched on one of the most dynamic players in baseball

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Speaker 2: who will not be at the MLB All Star Game.

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Speaker 5: We got to get that fixed. Explain next.

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Speaker 2: the break, one Morosi was unbelievable, which not surprising at all.

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Speaker 2: Two Di Sega brought up what was the play of

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Speaker 2: the day in sports, And not to spoil the end

1492
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Speaker 2: of the show here, but I have a feeling it

1493
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Speaker 2: is going to end up being our progressive play of

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Speaker 2: the day, and that was Ellie de la Cruz, the

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Speaker 2: rookie from the Cincinnati Reds who stole three bases on

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01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: two pitch, which is this guy is a lightning rod.

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01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 5: Lightning rod.

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01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: That's probably not the right verbiage because that makes him

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01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: sound like he's controversial.

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01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 5: He's just awesome to watch.

1501
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: This is a guy that made his major league debut

1502
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: as the top prospect in baseball back in early June,

1503
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: and since then it has been one basically just highlight

1504
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: after another. Currently batting three twenty eight, sixteen stolen bases

1505
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: in like six weeks as a Major League Baseball player,

1506
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: four home run, sixteen RBI. So I want to steal

1507
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: a segment from probably tomorrow morning's Fox Sports Radio when

1508
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 2: Dan Bayer is in with Mike Harmon to lead the

1509
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: morning at six am Pacific, nine Eastern time, because Dan

1510
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 2: Byer tweeted this after he saw the led La Cruz highlight.

1511
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: He said, how broken is the All Star process that

1512
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 2: he isn't on the NL roster. Make an exception, make

1513
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: a new rule, whatever you have to do. He's a

1514
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 2: top three star in the MLB right now and you

1515
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 2: won't see him on Tuesday. Don't want to steal from

1516
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: what Dan and Harmon are gonna do, but listen, Dan

1517
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 2: put it out there, out into the universe, and I agree.

1518
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: I know that there are our protocols and rules and

1519
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: you have to make decisions whenever this guy every single night,

1520
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,879
Speaker 2: Jason is a walking highlight.

1521
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 3: YEP.

1522
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: I don't know what you gotta do, Rob Manfred, get

1523
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 2: the bat phone, get this guy to Seattle. This is

1524
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: the guy I want to see play on Tuesday.

1525
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody should. And this is something that if you're

1526
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 3: Rob Manfred, you should want the country to see this guy,

1527
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: especially if they haven't gotten a chance to really see

1528
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: him in person, if for no other reason, then we

1529
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 3: could see the highlights prior and we could see the

1530
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 3: kinds of things that he's doing. I mean, that Cincinnati

1531
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 3: team was supposed to be terrible and they've gone on

1532
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 3: an insane run and right now they've got a two

1533
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 3: game lead in the NL Central. That's a fifty win

1534
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: team right now, the Cincinnati Reds, and what he's doing

1535
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 3: as a rookie. We've been talking about Victor Winbiniana. We'd

1536
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 3: let off talking about him, and we played Draymond Green's audio,

1537
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: which was excellent about the chances of him being an

1538
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 3: All Star in year one and how the hype is

1539
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: just insane and not fair. To him and setting them

1540
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 3: up for failure and all this this is a rookie, guys,

1541
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 3: this is a rookie. This is a rookie who easily

1542
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 3: could be in an All Star Game this coming Tuesday.

1543
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: And it was doing the kinds of things that should

1544
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,839
Speaker 3: make him must see And it's a missed opportunity for baseball,

1545
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 3: It truly is. And again we were talking about a

1546
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 3: Morosi and I mentioned it to you earlier. I've had

1547
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 3: such a good time watching baseball this year. I'm watching

1548
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: every team. I'm on MLB Network more this year than

1549
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: I have been in four years probably total. I watch

1550
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 3: Braise games and that's about it. And now I'm watching

1551
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 3: everything and there's a lot of young guys to enjoy,

1552
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: and you just you want them all to be represented

1553
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 3: in a game like your All Star Game. You want

1554
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 3: everybody to have the opportunity to see these guys, to

1555
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 3: learn about these guys, to get familiar with them so

1556
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: that they can get excited. And it stinks that that's

1557
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 3: not gonna happen when it comes to day La Cruz.

1558
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think you know a couple things. It's

1559
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: funny because you mentioned, you mentioned a few times about Otani.

1560
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: Is you not having the opportunity to watch him being

1561
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: on the East coast or I guess you're in the

1562
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: Central time zone, But you get the point. And dal

1563
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 2: La Cruz is a guy that is not readily available

1564
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: for us on the West coast. So I can watch

1565
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: Otani anytime I want, But Dala Cruz I just see

1566
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: these highlights every single day on social media. And so

1567
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: it's an interesting deal because I agree is that I

1568
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: do think there's a lot of young talent. I'm not

1569
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: enough of historian to know where it ranks all time.

1570
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 2: Is this the best young talent we've ever had? But

1571
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: it does feel like there are a lot of guys

1572
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball that you want to watch. Most

1573
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: of them will be in Seattle this coming week. Unfortunately,

1574
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,520
Speaker 2: Elie de la Cruz, again, the dynamic Reds rookie sixteen

1575
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: stolen bases in just a short amount of time as

1576
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 2: a Major League baseball player, will not be there, but

1577
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: he is fun to watch. Fox Sports Radio Eric Torres

1578
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios.

1579
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,879
Speaker 2: Coming up back to the NBA this n season tournament.

1580
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: We gotta get it figured out. Fox Sports Radio.

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,280
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Speaker 2: let's go back to the NBA for just half a

1589
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 2: second here, because it's been an interesting couple days. You know,

1590
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: Summer League is in full swing and a couple things. One,

1591
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 2: we obviously have a lot of young talent out in Vegas.

1592
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: It was unfortunate Scoot Henderson got hurt in his debut.

1593
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: I think he's pretty much shut down. But there was

1594
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: also the debut of Victor Weinbaniama last night, and so

1595
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 2: let's quickly rehit on Victor win Baniyama. We talked about

1596
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 2: it to lead the show, but for people who didn't

1597
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: see you, it was an interesting night for when Binyama

1598
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 2: he did have a you know, he had a solid

1599
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: opening performance in his NBA debut nine points, eight rebounds,

1600
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: five blocks and three assists. Did finish just two for

1601
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: thirteen from the field, and I thought after the game,

1602
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 2: I thought he handled himself really well. And I guess

1603
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: it's maybe a second or third media availability, depending on,

1604
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: you know, the press conference he had to hold the

1605
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: other day after the Britney Spears incident. But I bring

1606
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 2: it up because you know, I thought he handled himself well. Obviously,

1607
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: it was his first appearance in Vegas. He did speak

1608
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: about having a learning curve, said it was special to

1609
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: wear that jersey for the first time. Overall, I'm glad

1610
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: we won the game. There's no better way to get going.

1611
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: I don't really know what was going on on the

1612
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: court tonight. I'm trying to learn for the next game.

1613
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 2: I will say, I don't know. I don't know what

1614
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 2: to say. I think he was fine. I wasn't one

1615
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: that had just insane expectations for him coming in. I

1616
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: know that we've all seen the highlight tapes. I thought

1617
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: it was always unfair what was put on him early.

1618
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: What were your first impressions of victim Im Baniama Lasni That.

1619
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: He's nineteen and that he needs time to grow, that

1620
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: there were some flashes there on defense, but the offense

1621
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 3: has got a long way to go, especially here in

1622
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 3: the States and especially the way the NBA game is played,

1623
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 3: and he's going to have to acclimate to that. And

1624
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 3: anyone that didn't think that was going to be the

1625
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 3: case was kidding themselves. It wasn't fair to begin with,

1626
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: to throw all of this at him. His you know,

1627
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 3: you look at the measurables. Yeah, he's seven to four,

1628
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 3: and we know what he's capable of. But even there

1629
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 3: was even hyperbole attached to how good a shooter he

1630
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: was from the outside. He's a twenty seven percent career

1631
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 3: three point shooter. He had one great performance where he

1632
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 3: had thirty seven points when he hit seven threes, including

1633
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: like one step back between his legs, kind of crazy flight. Yeah,

1634
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: but that's not a thing that he's gonna do on

1635
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 3: a regular basis. He might be a streaky three point shooter.

1636
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: Maybe he ends up developing into a great one.

1637
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 9: I have no idea.

1638
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 3: All I know is he looked nineteen To me, Brandon

1639
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 3: Miller looked like he had played more basketball than had

1640
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 3: Victor Winbinyana, at least in America. He was a little

1641
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: more acclimated to the game. And it's gonna take some time.

1642
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: So it isn't fair. It's not fair right now to

1643
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 3: over criticize what we saw two of thirteen is not

1644
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 3: good and some people are not gonna look past that.

1645
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 3: But defensively, the way past the ball, his attitude after

1646
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 3: the fact, like all of this is gonna take some

1647
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: time and we need and look, he he deserves the

1648
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 3: chance anyone else would have to develop just because he

1649
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 3: was taking number one, just because a bunch of you know,

1650
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: virtual ink was spilled and podcasts and all these other

1651
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 3: things about how great he's going to be and all this.

1652
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,879
Speaker 3: That's not what he did. He's just out there playing basketball.

1653
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 3: That's all he can do right now. All he can

1654
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 3: control is his own performance. He doesn't play for a

1655
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 3: very good team, so we'll see what he can do

1656
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 3: when the season comes around. But again it is a

1657
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 3: work in progress. Everyone needs to calm down, let their

1658
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 3: heart rate return to normal, do a cool down, workout here,

1659
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 3: like we're not on a hit ride. When it comes

1660
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 3: to Victor Wimbinyana, this is going to be a long,

1661
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: long situation. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. And

1662
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 3: he's got time. He's nineteen. I want to see what

1663
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: he looks like in five years. Let's have the conversation then,

1664
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 3: and let's stop right now over evaluating him on the

1665
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 3: extremes of positives and negatives. It's not fair.

1666
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 5: Really quickly. We didn't touch on this in Hour one.

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01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm curious for your perspective the Britney Spears thing. Yes,

1668
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 2: so I think everybody kind of saw, but but we

1669
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: have multiple layers to the story. But video did come

1670
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: out yesterday to kind of kind of explain what happened.

1671
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 2: But essentially Britney Spears saw it when Binyama in a

1672
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: hotel went up to him, tapped him on the shoulder.

1673
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 5: His security guard kind of pushed her away.

1674
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: Now, she claimed she got hit, but then the video

1675
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: kind of confirmed that they pushed kind of her hand

1676
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: into her face. It was it was a weird story, man.

1677
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: You know, I have a couple of thoughts, but but

1678
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: I'll give you the floor for half a second. I

1679
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: was on with Jason Smith last night to kind of

1680
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 2: share my opinions on it. But what what was your

1681
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 2: evaluation of that?

1682
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 9: Whole thing?

1683
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 3: Kind of rolled my eyes. I mean, it was just

1684
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: kind of it was baffling. First of all, I was like,

1685
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 3: what's Britney Spear I didn't even know Britney spearsould know

1686
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 3: who Victor Winmbinyana was.

1687
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 5: By the way she she claimed that she did.

1688
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: I get She's like, oh, I saw him and I

1689
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: was just so happy that, you know, or I wanted

1690
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: to wish him good luck. I think she saw seven

1691
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 2: for five dude and was like, that guy must be famous.

1692
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 2: And I think it was in, you know, genuine that

1693
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 2: she was going to wish him good luck. But I

1694
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: don't believe that. I don't think she's been reading like

1695
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 2: her mock drafts on ESPN dot com and knew exactly

1696
01:25:58,640 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: who he was.

1697
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 3: But Didy Jason may be so. And look, if you

1698
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: have been famous to the degree that Britney Spears was

1699
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: famous or is famous or infamous depending on the time frame,

1700
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 3: you probably used to pretty much being able to tap

1701
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 3: anybody on the shoulder. You're Britney Spears, You're usually the

1702
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 3: one who's security is knocking people off of you for

1703
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 3: touching them on the shoulder. I would argue this though

1704
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 3: when it comes to the security guy, I don't think

1705
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 3: he turned around, Wow, that's Britney Spears. I'm going to

1706
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 3: knock her back. I think it was probably a gut

1707
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 3: reaction because Victor Winbinnana right now, you got to protect him.

1708
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 3: That's your job as a security It doesn't matter who

1709
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 3: it is. I'm getting that person away from my client.

1710
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 3: I'm getting that guy away from my employer because basically

1711
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 3: he's an asset at that point. So I don't think

1712
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 3: that it was I don't even know the security guy

1713
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 3: even recognized that it was Britney Spears before the action

1714
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 3: had already taken place. It was just an odd story

1715
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 3: because it just felt like it felt so fake. It

1716
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 3: felt it's so phony. It felt like somebody wrote it

1717
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 3: somewhere to find out that it was actually true. And

1718
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 3: then there was the whole like, oh, Victor Winbernana smirked

1719
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 3: and all this is easy, easy, it just it. I

1720
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 3: think it probably was blown out of proportion.

1721
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, my only real two takeaways were one. And by

1722
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: the way, Chris, maybe in the background, see if you

1723
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: have the wehn Banyama sound from the other day. We'll

1724
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: get to it in a minute. I think my two

1725
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: big takeaways were one. I was a little sympathetic to

1726
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: Britney Spears until I actually saw the video. Yeah, and

1727
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: it was funny because you mentioned, you know, she's probably

1728
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: been on the other side of this, and that was

1729
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: why I was a little unsympathetic. But to be clear,

1730
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: I'm not victor blaming. Oh my god, it's all her fault,

1731
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: but she does kind of just run up on him

1732
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 2: and tap him on the shoulder. And maybe she was

1733
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,919
Speaker 2: naive to the fact that that he would have security

1734
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: with him and all that, But I like, like, I

1735
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: kind of feel like, if you're Britney Spears and you

1736
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: know and you like know what it's like to be

1737
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: famous and that people rush up on you, I would

1738
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: think you would be a little bit more cognizant of that.

1739
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: And so I'm not saying that anyone deserves to get

1740
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 2: smacked in the face, even if it was your own hand,

1741
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: but it felt weird that she wouldn't have the wherewithal

1742
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 2: to kind of be like, I can't do this. This

1743
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 2: guy probably has security. I will also say this, I

1744
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 2: want everybody to listen to win Benyama's response because I

1745
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: found this interesting as well.

1746
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 11: I didn't know for a couple hours, but when we

1747
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 11: when I when I came back to the hotel, I

1748
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 11: thought it was no big deal and that the security

1749
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 11: of this personal dude was.

1750
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: A big discuse.

1751
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 9: So I was first. I was like, a, you know,

1752
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 9: you're joking better. Yeah, turns it turns out it was

1753
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 9: a bigness.

1754
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 3: Gears, you know.

1755
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 11: But I didn't know because I didn't see her. I

1756
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 11: never saw her face. I kept just kept walking straight.

1757
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 11: Over that said, I didn't see what happened because I

1758
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 11: was walking straight and we told those stuff. But that

1759
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 11: person grabbed me from behind. So I just know that

1760
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 11: the security pushed her away. I don't know how with

1761
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 11: how much forced though, but uh, secrety pushed her away.

1762
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 11: I didn't stop for to luke, so I can't walk in.

1763
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 5: That was very I'm talking about it. My only real reaction.

1764
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 5: Jason was nineteen years old.

1765
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the other thing I was thinking about it.

1766
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 3: I was gonna take a different place and just say

1767
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 3: he's nineteen, which means Britney's career was like most of

1768
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 3: what people know Britney Spears for he was not even

1769
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 3: born yet. Yeah.

1770
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say, like, I don't I'm

1771
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: not saying he's a bad person or anything. He does

1772
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 2: feel like like the fact that it's Britney Spears and

1773
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: it's weird because like, again, what you just said is

1774
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 2: if he knows Britney for anything, it's probably some weird

1775
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: stories that he saw online or whatever. But one, it's

1776
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: weird that like he's so like nonchalant about it being

1777
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: Britney spears. My other takeaway was it did feel a

1778
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 2: little and again, he's nineteen, it's one of his first

1779
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 2: probably major media availabilities, certainly here in the United States,

1780
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: a little bit like.

1781
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 5: Unemotional about it. And I was thinking about this.

1782
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: I was actually talking to some of our producers about

1783
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: this the other day, is like, I do think this

1784
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 2: is kind of the downside of all these young athletes

1785
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: being so well trained in like media availability, Like if

1786
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: you just listen to me as oh, you know, I

1787
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 2: went back to the hotel and I had no idea,

1788
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: and I woke up to text the next day and

1789
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 2: da da da da, And it's like, I don't know,

1790
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:20,959
Speaker 2: like I don't I feel like, maybe I'm sorry this happened.

1791
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 2: I wish it hadn't happened. I'd love for her to

1792
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 2: come to the next game. I'm so I don't, like,

1793
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm not mad that he didn't apologize. I think to me,

1794
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: it's just more of a byproduct of young athletes now

1795
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 2: are so well trained with the media that it just

1796
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: felt like he was talking about random fan Jason Martin,

1797
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: a random fan Aaron Torres running up on him and like,

1798
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just the response. I wouldn't call weird,

1799
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: but it's just there's something that I can't quite put

1800
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 2: my finger on about his response to this whole deal.

1801
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 3: Jason Well Man, I think it was just very He

1802
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 3: just kind of shrugged it off, like it didn't mean

1803
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 3: anything to him. And I think there is a lack

1804
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 3: of emotion, and I think that's kind of what you mentioned.

1805
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 3: There's almost like a cold nature to it. It's almost

1806
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 3: like a robotic answer because it's so polished. I think

1807
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 3: a lot of that comes from having handlers around you

1808
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 3: and not having teammates around you. And I don't mean

1809
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: just because he's new. I mean I was listening to

1810
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 3: podcast a few months ago with some older baseball players

1811
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 3: that were lamenting the fact that guys now you just

1812
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 3: walk in and the clubhouse that used to be a

1813
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 3: raucous place where cards are being played and jokes are

1814
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 3: being played and all this kind of stuff. Now it's

1815
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 3: everybody staring at their phones and as soon as the

1816
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 3: game's over, everybody goes home. There's not a whole lot

1817
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 3: of people out late. There's no camaraderie. There's no like

1818
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 3: spaghetti stains around sports the way that there once were.

1819
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 3: If to just kind of throw an analogy out there,

1820
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 3: like Victor Wiinmbignana there, he just sounds like somebody handed

1821
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 3: him a script and excited it perfectly. Like there's not

1822
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: there's a lack of authenticity to it, but it is authentic.

1823
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 3: That's exactly the way he feels about it because it

1824
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: had no effect on him. And that's kind of shocking

1825
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 3: because you think about what would have happened if the

1826
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 3: same incident had occurred twenty five years ago with Charles

1827
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 3: Barkley and Madonna Sure or something like that, we'd still

1828
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 3: be talking about it. True this Victor Winn Mignonna Britney

1829
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 3: Spears thing, it'll be over. If it's not over now,

1830
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 3: it'll be over within a week.

1831
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it basically is over.

1832
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 2: And I think part of it is because of that

1833
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: nonchalance by him, Like I think if he had been like,

1834
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 2: oh my god, it was Britney spears, I can't believe it.

1835
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Da da da da dah, it probably would have been

1836
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 2: a bigger deal, but it appears as though everybody's moved on,

1837
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know I talk about I didn't even

1838
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 2: know if we should bring it up, just because of

1839
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 2: the fact that, like you know, it was now whatever,

1840
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 2: seventy two hours old when Beniyama has played, so it

1841
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 2: is still just a one.

1842
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 3: Don't you feel like if it had been Giannis and

1843
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 3: he found out about it now, he just said he

1844
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 3: would have said, Oh, if I hadn't known it was her,

1845
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 3: I would have asked for her autograph. I was in

1846
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 3: love with her as a child like because he seems

1847
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 3: to get it like this exactly something about him where

1848
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 3: like he just always seems to have the right thing

1849
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 3: to say, and it's very innocent and childlike and relatable.

1850
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 3: What wom Migyhanna said, I'm just like, Look, I admit it.

1851
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 3: I liked Britney Spears like me personally. I liked Britney

1852
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 3: Spears in the late nineties as well. Like I think

1853
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 3: we all we all had that moment. I've had that

1854
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 3: conversation before on Fox Sports Radio. You know, you always

1855
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 3: have the pop star that you followed that you kind

1856
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 3: of liked or whatever like that. Wom Mignanna's answer just

1857
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: was totally unrelatable because we know what a gigantic superstar

1858
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 3: Britney Spears was at the moment, and Victor wim Begnanna

1859
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 3: was just kind of like, yes, this was just I

1860
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 3: don't know, a checkout girl at the local grocery store.

1861
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 5: No, it's unbelievable. No, that was the part that blew

1862
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 5: me away.

1863
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Is that, like you said, the nonchalance, like he just

1864
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: treated it like it was some random that came up

1865
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 2: on him, but of course it was Britney Spears. It

1866
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: is you know, you just talk about like a celebrity

1867
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 2: mad libs like that. That was basically what that was.

1868
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,000
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Speaker 2: go back to the Diamond. Jason, I got a bone

1874
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 2: to pick with Major League Baseball. I'm gonna tell you

1875
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 2: what that is next.

1876
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio still welcome back everybody.

1877
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio playing Britney's I mean, do I say

1878
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 2: it Brittany's greatest hits?

1879
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 9: I wasn't.

1880
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't intending on going there, but I mean, it's

1881
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 2: kinda kind of what we're playing right now. So Fox

1882
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 2: Sports Radio ra Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1883
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios.

1884
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 3: No, what I love is Chris comes into my ear

1885
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 3: and he says, Jason, I'm sorry for this.

1886
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 9: WHOA not sorry?

1887
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 5: No, she's the one that ran up on Webby. Yeah,

1888
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 5: you're not also not sorry.

1889
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 2: Chris take back that, No, I'm only sorry, and that

1890
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 2: I've probably run this joke about three or four times.

1891
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 3: Now, It's okay, it's all right you and everybody else.

1892
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 3: I've had multiple text messages over the last forty eight

1893
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 3: hours that have used this joke as well, So it's

1894
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 3: all good.

1895
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 5: Oh sure, but I actually have the power to play it,

1896
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 5: that's true.

1897
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: It's one important question. Would you say Wemby and Britney's

1898
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: relationship is toxic right now?

1899
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 3: Oh?

1900
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 5: Hey, we'll save that one for later in the show.

1901
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 3: Wonder if it'll happen a second time then we can say, oops,

1902
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 3: I did it again?

1903
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 9: Oh?

1904
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 3: How many we got here man, I I don't know.

1905
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 5: I don't know that many Britney songs. Now that I'm

1906
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 5: thinking about it.

1907
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean, she's a little bit off kilter. Maybe Wemby

1908
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 3: has you know, driven her crazy.

1909
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 5: Drive me crazy?

1910
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 2: All right, Fox, make sure it's up your waitress. Yes,

1911
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna say crime a river, but then I

1912
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: remember that's about her, not to dry her minimum all right, Yeah,

1913
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,040
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1918
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 2: match get to the NFL in a minute. There was

1919
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: an interesting story that came out of the league this week.

1920
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 2: But I want to go back to baseball for half

1921
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Speaker 2: a second. Jason, first time you and I have spoken

1922
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Speaker 2: since the since the fourth of July holiday. Hope you

1923
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 2: and your family, by the way, had a great holiday.

1924
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 2: Got to relax. I know your daughter was maybe gonna

1925
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: hit the pool for the first time. Did she have

1926
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Speaker 2: a good time?

1927
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Speaker 3: She did, She got bitten by a lot of mosquitoes.

1928
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,839
Speaker 3: So that's a that's also an experience that she endured

1929
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 3: and is still enduring right now. But yeah, she had

1930
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Speaker 3: a good time. She enjoyed the pool. Stanford here she comes.

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Speaker 5: All right, fantastic.

1932
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Speaker 2: So July fourth, obviously everyone a lot of people had

1933
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Speaker 2: it off, you know, spending time with friends, family, barbecue

1934
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Speaker 2: and cooking out whatever. And something I've talked about for

1935
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Speaker 2: years on these airwaves, Jason is I'm always a little

1936
01:36:54,600 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 2: bit amazed that Major League Baseball hasn't tried harder to

1937
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 2: make July fourth kind of their day. Thanksgiving is owned

1938
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 2: by the NFL, the NBA has Christmas Day, even though

1939
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 2: the NFL is encroaching on it.

1940
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Speaker 5: New Year's is traditionally college football. You go on and

1941
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Speaker 5: on de list. I think, even like Martin.

1942
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 2: Luther King Day, college basketball has always figured out a

1943
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 2: way to get a marquee game or two on the air.

1944
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 2: And while baseball is certainly going on on July fourth,

1945
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 2: I've never understood why Major League Baseball doesn't make it

1946
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 2: their day. And I bring it up because I've been

1947
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 2: thinking about that for years. And then I turned on

1948
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Speaker 2: the TV last night and I saw two things that

1949
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 2: just made my blood boil. The Cubs were playing at

1950
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Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium. As a matter of fact, Friday night, the

1951
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: Cubs won their first ever game in franchise history at

1952
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Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium.

1953
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Speaker 5: I believe they played in a World series.

1954
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 2: They're like, literally one hundred years ago, had never won

1955
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 2: a game there, but they played there.

1956
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Speaker 5: They went.

1957
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: Then I turned on another channel and we had Angels, Dodgers,

1958
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: the Freeway series show Hey Otani in the place that

1959
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people think it's gonna be his future home.

1960
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Speaker 2: And I get that their Friday night, it's Saturday. You know,

1961
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Speaker 2: you do want marquee games on the weekend to keep

1962
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Speaker 2: the TV partners happy.

1963
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Speaker 3: But could we not have.

1964
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 2: Done that on July fourth and made it a big

1965
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 2: deal and made it into a thing, because I'll tell

1966
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Speaker 2: you you know, July fourth, I was home and I

1967
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 2: was looking for something to watch. We don't We're an

1968
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: not an anti hot dog eating show, but we just

1969
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Speaker 2: don't watch it.

1970
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 5: It's not our thing. I was looking for something to watch.

1971
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 2: Ironically, that big soccer game, LAFC versus the Galaxy was

1972
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,560
Speaker 2: a mile from where I live, so I kind of

1973
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 2: found that and you know, watch it a little bit,

1974
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 2: but I was.

1975
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Speaker 5: Looking for something to watch.

1976
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 2: If you had given me Otani at Dodgers Stadium, if

1977
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 2: you had given me during the day Cubs at Yankees,

1978
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 2: I would have tuned it in. But instead it was

1979
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 2: just another random series. I don't get, Jason.

1980
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 5: It's funny.

1981
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 2: I got Summer League on here in the studio. Credit

1982
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 2: the NBA. They've made Summer League a thing. It's now

1983
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 2: a must watch. Gotta check it out, gotta see the

1984
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 2: young guys. They've branded it. They've made it a thing.

1985
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 5: Am I crazy? Why has Major League Baseball not done this?

1986
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 2: And I understand the number one pushback I've gotten is

1987
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 2: that basically everybody wants to play at night so they

1988
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: can have fireworks, So you can't have the all day

1989
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 2: thing going whatever. I don't care Major League Baseball Rob

1990
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 2: Manfred figured out there's nothing else going on in sports,

1991
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Speaker 2: make it your day. Instead, we get Angels, Dodgers, Cubs,

1992
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 2: Yankees two days after Fourth of July.

1993
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 5: Drives me crazy.

1994
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Speaker 3: Hey, look, the Braid's played the Guardians and yeah. One

1995
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 3: of the reasons why I know that is because my

1996
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 3: wife asked me a couple of days before, Hey, what

1997
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 3: do you want to do for the fourth, and honestly,

1998
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 3: not much. We ended up spending some time with family,

1999
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 3: but we use the time to rest because it's been

2000
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 3: a crazy summer for us. But I said, well, I'd

2001
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 3: love to go to Atlanta and see a Braids game,

2002
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 3: but they're actually in Cleveland. So because I looked at

2003
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 3: the schedule and that would have been a fun thing

2004
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 3: to do on July fourth, even to have been a

2005
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 3: day game, and there hadn't been fireworks, but obviously fireworks

2006
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 3: is gonna be more fun. But no, I think you're

2007
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 3: exactly right. I think you can make it a thing

2008
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 3: because there's not that much competition, even with the hot

2009
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 3: dog eating contest. It can become like the Puppy Bowl

2010
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 3: or something like that, and you can go over there

2011
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 3: and do it. There's no reason not to own the day.

2012
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 3: There's no reason not to make it a thing, because

2013
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 3: what's the downside in it. There's not one, like if

2014
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 3: everybody's playing baseball that day. Yeah, you're still out barbecuing

2015
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 3: and stuff like that and doing the things that you

2016
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 3: do on the fourth of July. But maybe you've got

2017
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 3: the game on. You have a lot of sports fans

2018
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 3: to have nothing else there's nothing else going on in

2019
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 3: sports at that point in time for them to watch

2020
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 3: baseball sort of, like I said, like the first thing

2021
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 3: that came to mind, and I even looked at the

2022
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 3: local team here, the Nashville Sounds. It's like, maybe we'll

2023
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,560
Speaker 3: go see a Sounds game, sit on the burn and

2024
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 3: watch that in the afternoon or something like that. So

2025
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 3: I gave thought to baseball locally, minor league or you know,

2026
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 3: going to see a major league game or something like that.

2027
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 3: I think it just kind of fits, right. You think

2028
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 3: of the hot dog eating contest, you think of everything

2029
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 3: goes with the Fourth of July's pastime, apple pie, all

2030
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff. It fits and it's an

2031
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 3: easy win for baseball because again there's no downside. There's

2032
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 3: not going to be any criticism of it, except for

2033
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 3: the people that want to criticize July fourth, who I

2034
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 3: have no time for anyway outside of that, Like, yeah,

2035
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 3: revel in it, like do it, do it up and

2036
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 3: do it big, have fun with it. Every other sport's

2037
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:35,520
Speaker 3: got one, NBAC got Christmas, NFL's got you know, Thanksgiving,

2038
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 3: You've even got like the Winter Classic and stuff like that.

2039
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 3: When it comes there, Baseball has the opportunity to just

2040
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 3: snag this because there's no one else there to do it,

2041
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,440
Speaker 3: So just do it like there's going to be zero pushback.

2042
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 3: Maybe you can market it, but certainly you can get

2043
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 3: some eyeballs on your product that otherwise you might not get, no.

2044
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 5: One hundred percent.

2045
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 2: Like I said, I was sitting there on Tuesday night

2046
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 2: looking for something to watch, and ironically, again you have

2047
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 2: that big soccer game that was actually rescheduled at the

2048
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl between LAFC and LA Galaxy, and maybe, listen,

2049
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 2: major League Baseball is gonna do it. Maybe MLS takes

2050
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 2: over the day, but I think it is just there

2051
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 2: for the taking. As we talked about with JP Morosi,

2052
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 2: major League Baseball is a lot of young stars. It

2053
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 2: seems as though the sport is trending in the right

2054
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 2: direction with a lot of the new rules changes. Take

2055
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 2: over July fourth, make it not only it's obviously a

2056
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 2: national holiday, make it a baseball holiday as well. Fox

2057
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Aeron Tors, Jayson Martin. Coming up, we switch

2058
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: gears to the NFL interesting story out of Buffalo. This week,

2059
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 2: we'll discuss that next first news test to Seger Flor's

2060
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:39,759
Speaker 2: Yours my friend.

2061
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Speaker 8: When you mentioned Major League Baseball management decisions out of

2062
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 8: the New York office, it just reminds me of what

2063
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 8: I used to always say when Bud Selig was in

2064
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 8: charge ten twenty years ago. Baseball is a great game

2065
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 8: run by idiots. Yes, yeah, just things that pass them by,

2066
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 8: like can you not see what we are seeing? Well,

2067
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 8: you mentioned with the MLS got record attendance at the

2068
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 8: Rose Bowl for that July fourth game, and that was

2069
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 8: on streaming. By the way, it was eighty two thousand

2070
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 8: fans in Pasadena for that game. We have one MLB

2071
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 8: games still going tonight to the ninth inning in San Diego.

2072
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 8: Padres lead the Mets three to one. The Mets have

2073
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 8: won six in a row. They're doing almost nothing tonight

2074
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 8: at the plate. The Mets are two for twenty five

2075
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 8: with fifteen strikeouts, including Blake'snell, who had six scoreless sittings

2076
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 8: as the Padres starting pitcher. He carid eleven Atlanta Spencer

2077
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 8: Strider now eleven and two. He had eleven strikeouts in

2078
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 8: six and a third scoreless sittings. Braves won at Tampa

2079
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 8: Bay six to one. Rays have lost seven in a row.

2080
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 8: The Dodgers down the Angels ten to five. Those two

2081
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 8: teams start the All Star Break now everyone else still

2082
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 8: has one more game tomorrow. The Angels limped to the

2083
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 8: finish line of the first half of the season. They

2084
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 8: lost nine of their last ten, including now five in

2085
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 8: a row.

2086
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 5: The record is.

2087
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 8: Forty five and forty six. Even though sho heeo Toni

2088
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 8: homerd again tonight, thirty second home run of his season.

2089
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 8: The Dodgers, by the way, hit five solo homers in

2090
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,879
Speaker 8: victory today. The first game was at Detroit and the Tigers,

2091
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 8: in a two and a half think shoutout of Toronto,

2092
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 8: pitched a combined no hitter. The Yankees and Garrett Cole

2093
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 8: beat the Cubs six to three. Minnesota lost at home,

2094
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,640
Speaker 8: while Cleveland won its home games, so the Guardians are

2095
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 8: alone and first in the AL Central, half game over

2096
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 8: the Twins, who are forty five and forty five, and

2097
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 8: what a game on FS one. Cincinnati eight five winners

2098
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 8: at Milwaukee as Ellie de la Cruz of the Reds

2099
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 8: stole three straight bases in the bottom of the seventh

2100
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,719
Speaker 8: Red's now two games ahead of the Brewers for first

2101
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 8: in the NL Central. The first place team in the

2102
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 8: NL West Arizona won again with two runs bottom of

2103
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 8: the tenth to beat slumping Pittsburgh three to two. MLB

2104
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 8: All Star Game is Tuesday night in Seattle on Fox TV.

2105
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 8: Houston beat Seattle tonight three to two. The Spurs gave

2106
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 8: coach Greg Popovich a new five year contract. The Hawks

2107
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 8: acquired veteran guard Patty Mills, who's now been traded three

2108
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 8: times in the last ten days. Golden State gave Dario

2109
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 8: Sarich a one year deal. Philadelphia forward Paul Reid signed

2110
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 8: a three year offer sheet with Utah West Virginia coach

2111
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 8: Bob Huggins, through a lawyer, says he never resigned and

2112
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 8: wants his job back after last months to UI. Megan

2113
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 8: Rapino will retire from pro soccer after this year. US

2114
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 8: women have an exhibition in the Bay Area tomorrow and

2115
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 8: then leave for the Women's World Cup, which will be

2116
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 8: on Fox and FS one. Men's Soccer on FS one

2117
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 8: this weekend. The Gold Cup quarterfinals that is our regional

2118
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 8: championship this part of the world. Mexico won in Dallas

2119
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 8: tonight two nothing over Costa Rica. Panama four nothing winners

2120
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 8: against Qatar, which was an invitee to the tournament. US

2121
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,759
Speaker 8: men soccer plays Sunday nights in a quarterfinal against Canada

2122
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 8: eight pm Eastern Ton. That's on FS one tomorrow from Cincinnati.

2123
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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Saga, Fox

2124
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday aeron Torres. Jason Martin broadcasting

2125
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios. The Saga will

2126
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 2: be back in just a few minutes with his extent

2127
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 2: update Jason really quick. We don't need to spend a

2128
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 2: ton of time on this. The story is a few

2129
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 2: days old. But the Buffalo Bills mellow drama of this offseason.

2130
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 2: They just can't keep themselves out of the headline. So

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Speaker 2: obviously a few months back, we had a few weeks back,

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Speaker 2: I should say, we had the Stefan Diggs situation where

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Speaker 2: of course you know, he wasn't available, and Sean McDermott

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01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 2: called it quote a big problem. And then he shows

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01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 2: up the next day and Sean McDermott says, I don't

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Speaker 2: know why you guys are making a big deal about this.

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Speaker 2: And it took another twist this week when Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: obviously the star of the Buffalo Bills, was on the

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Speaker 2: Busting with the Boys podcast and was asked about this

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01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: exact situation. Here is what Josh Allen had to say.

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Speaker 12: I love him, that's my guy. The media's blonus so

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01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 12: far out of proportion, right like Grey, we are in

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01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 12: rookie or mini camp. We're not playing a game for

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01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 12: four months. He doesn't show up. One day, he's still there.

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01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 12: You know, coach asked him to go home. We're in

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01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 12: talks and discussion of trying to resolve some things and

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01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 12: it wasn't anything major and medium blew it up. They're

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01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 12: still talking about it, like, let it go.

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Speaker 4: Let it go.

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Speaker 12: There's no reason to continue talking about it. He's on

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Speaker 12: the field with us the next day.

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Speaker 9: It was not a big deal.

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Speaker 5: That was Josh Allen on the Busting with the Boys podcast.

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Speaker 5: Jason let me.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Get that Josh Allen is trying to minimize this, but

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Speaker 2: his own coach called it a very big deal when

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Speaker 2: it happened in real time. So forgive us in the

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Speaker 2: media for asking tough questions. I know that all these athletes, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you guys in the media blah blah blah this and that.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry it's a big deal because you guys made

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01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 2: it a big deal, Jason the floors, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand what Alan's doing, and he's basically

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01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 3: just trying to say it was not a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Don't look at my guy as a bad guy. I

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01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 3: don't want him to be upset. He's just kind of

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01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 3: trying to lower the temperature. And he's doing the easiest

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01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 3: thing that there is to do in sports, and that

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01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 3: is going after the media. Because the media is never sympathetic.

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01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 3: They're not sympathetic in politics, they're not sympathetic in culture,

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01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 3: they're not sympathetic in sports. There's always somebody when you

2172
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 3: hear the word in media, it's almost always a negative connotation,

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01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 3: like almost immediately the first thing that you go to

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Speaker 3: is something negative. And I'm not saying Awan did anything

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01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 3: wrong here. I just kind of see what he's doing here.

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01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 3: We don't know how serious or not serious it was,

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Speaker 3: but the way it was reported and laid out, and

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott's own comments that were public, like not comments

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01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 3: that somebody had a recorder on him and he didn't

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01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 3: know it or whatever like that. These are things that

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01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 3: he put out there led to speculation and led to

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01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 3: people then trying to read the tea leaves and by

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01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 3: the way, seemingly getting it right. We talked about it

2184
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 3: right here on these airwaves. He wanted to be a

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01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 3: bigger part of the offense, he wanted more targets, he

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01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 3: wanted more say so, all of that, which I think

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01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 3: he probably deserves, and I think Josh Allen probably thinks

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01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 3: that he deserves that, so he wants to make sure

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01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 3: that at his running buddy, the guy that is super

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01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 3: responsible for a lot of what the Bills have done

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01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 3: right in the past few years, that that guy is

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Speaker 3: happy and protected publicly in statements that are coming out.

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Speaker 3: I also think it's probably a bigger deal than what

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01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 3: Josh Allen says it is on busting with the boys,

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01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 3: and probably a smaller deal than it was made out

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01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 3: to be. And the reason why is because when there

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01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 3: are incompletes, when there is information not there and there

2198
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 3: are filling the blanks, there's always going to be extremes

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01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 3: on both sides, and the truth is almost always somewhere

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01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 3: in the middle. And that's where I would say this

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Speaker 3: is as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, last thoughts I want to give to Sagra some

2203
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 2: time here on the back end is that it does

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01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 2: speak to me and the reason I wanted to at

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01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 2: least address this story.

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01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 5: There's something going on in Buffalo.

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01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 3: Man. It ain't good Man like we're talking about him

2208
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 3: for all the wrong reasons. That usually doesn't work out

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01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,680
Speaker 3: very well for that team the next season.

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Speaker 5: Not at all.

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Speaker 2: And keep in mind, of course, this is and I

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01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: know everybody listening knows, but this is off Stefane Digs

2213
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,919
Speaker 2: throwing a fit during that loss to the Cincinnati Bengals,

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01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 2: a game that Buffalo got destroyed in at home. And oh,

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01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 2: by the way, coming off of a game where they

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01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 2: had to survive at home against Skuyler Thompson and the

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. Something I'm telling you, something does not feel

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Speaker 2: right with this organization right now. Fox Sports Radio erin Torris,

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: When we come back to State, Disager has his extended update.

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Speaker 2: forty five Pacific time, twelve forty five Eastern News desk

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Speaker 2: to Sager, the floor's yours.

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Speaker 8: Hello, gentlemen, Let's talk about the good and the bad

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01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,440
Speaker 8: and the ugly. The good would certainly include show Heyotani,

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01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 8: the bad, the Oakland A's, the ugly, the Bob Huggins story.

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01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 8: We'll start with the baseball as show Heyotani, in another

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01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 8: Angel loss, finished one hit shy of the cycle tonight.

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01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 8: It was a ten to five Dodger win, though still

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01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 8: stat seeing points out already this season that six times

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01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 8: Otani has fallen one hit shy of a cycle, tying

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01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 8: a major league record for most such games before an

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Speaker 8: All Star break, tying three Hall of Famers Rod Carew,

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Speaker 8: Willie Stargel, and Duke Snyder in that category. And, by

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01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,560
Speaker 8: the way, speaking a great what you mentioned earlier, the

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01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 8: Reds young Ellie de la Cruz. He's the only guy

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01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:41,560
Speaker 8: in the last fifty years of major League baseball to

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01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 8: do what he did with the same batter at the plate.

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01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 8: He stole second, then stole third, then Stoleholme. It was

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01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 8: amazing the FS one game at Milwaukee, which Cincinnati did

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01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 8: win eight five today. And then there's the Oakland A's

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Speaker 8: who lost again ten to three at Boston. The A's

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Speaker 8: record twenty five and sixty six. Great stat from AP

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Speaker 8: who did some research on this and discovered you go

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01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 8: back almost a decade the Oakland A's in the twenty

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01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 8: fourteen season. How many runs did they give up for

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01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 8: the entire season? Five seventy two. They've allowed five seventy

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Speaker 8: three already this year. Still one game to go till

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01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 8: the All Star Break? Can I say again out loud?

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01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 8: The ages are twenty five and sixty six. And then

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01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 8: there's the Bob Huggins story, which Metro News in West

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01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 8: Virginia was all over tonight that the former men's basketball

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01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 8: head coach at West Virginia Huggins, sent a letter to

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Speaker 8: the university dated yesterday and he's demanding to get his

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01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 8: job back, to be reinstated, or he'll sue because he

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01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 8: claims he never resigned. I am looking at the letter

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Speaker 8: as I speak, and it's from a law firm in Cleveland,

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01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 8: addressed to the office of the school President E. Gordon Gee,

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Speaker 8: and it says we represent Bob Huggins. Purpose of this

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01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 8: letter is to update you on his current status and

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Speaker 8: to plan his return to active duties as head basketball coach.

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Speaker 8: And then the very next sentence is if you're represented

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Speaker 8: by counsel, please forward this letter to the counselor quote,

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01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 8: Bob Huggins does not desire litigation. Rather, he is simply

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Speaker 8: looking for the correction of a clear breach of his

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Speaker 8: employment agreement with West Virginia University, which goes until April

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01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 8: thirtieth of next year. Based on press statements, this lawyer writes,

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Speaker 8: it appears that West Virginia is taking the position that

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Speaker 8: Coach Huggins voluntarily resigned and terminated this contract in advance

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Speaker 8: of next April. However, although the press statements purport to

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Speaker 8: have resignation communications directly from the coach to you, Coach

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Speaker 8: Huggins has never communicated his resignation to you or the

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Speaker 8: athletic director or anyone at West Virginia. To the contrary quote,

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01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 8: we understand that the purported resignation is incredibly based on

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01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 8: a text message from coach Huggins, so this is not over.

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01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 8: Through the NBA, the Spurs gave coach Greg Popovich a

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01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 8: new five year contract, reportedly worth more than eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 8: Media members have pointed out that if he stays through

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Speaker 8: the whole contract, he will be seventy nine years old.

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01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 8: Of course, then again, he's been with the Spurs so

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01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 8: long he doesn't necessarily have to coach all five years

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01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 8: on the new deal to still collect it. He'd still

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01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 8: be with the franchise. And then there was what you

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01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 8: talked about earlier tonight, the big announcement from the NBA

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01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 8: that this in season tournament is a go. And here

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01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 8: are the details. Among them, that games will be played

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01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 8: in November every Tuesday and Friday, except for Election Night.

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01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 8: All games except for the December finals, will count for

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01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 8: the regular season standings will count for the stats again,

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01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 8: except for the final in Las Vegas. Go figure that

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01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 8: one out in Vegas. Summer League is underway. It'll go

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Speaker 8: through the seventeenth. The Late Game had the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 8: winning tonight in their game against the Clippers. Former Kansas

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01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 8: al Americ kin O Chaia Bogi had twenty one points

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Speaker 8: for the winners in former UCLA Final four player Johnny

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01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 8: Chusang had thirteen points for the Jazz. The Milwaukee Bucks

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01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 8: were in action late tonight in Summer League and beat

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Speaker 8: Phoenix as Center Taco fall for Milwaukee at only about

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01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 8: seventeen minutes. Had ten points, seven rebounds, three block shots.

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Speaker 8: And from Arnie's Arizona Wildcats, Yeah, Gardnico Mannion, and we

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01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 8: played that sound effect not the actual Wildcat because Manion

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01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 8: was two of fourteen shooting from the floor tonight. From

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01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 8: three point range, he was zero for nine for the Bucks.

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01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 8: Indiana Pacers did have a guy from Arizona who played well.

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01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 8: Ben Mathern had twenty seven points for the Pacers and

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01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 8: their win over Washington, and first rounder Jars Walker had

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01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 8: eight points for the Pacers three of thirteen shooting. He

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01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 8: did have thirteen rebounds. Portland rookie guards Scoot Henderson will

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01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 8: not play tomorrow night against the Spurs to rest his shoulder.

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Speaker 8: You've talked about the number one overall pick, Victory wembin

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01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 8: Yama did debut last night for the Spurs in Vegas.

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01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 8: Shot two of thirteen from the floor nine points. By

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01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 8: the way, Charlotte's first rounder Brandon Miller remember in his

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01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 8: summer league opener in Sacramento just in the first half

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01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 8: was one of five, shooting six fouls. So there's in

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01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 8: Major League Baseball. Detroit pitched to combine no hitter tonight

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Speaker 8: Today I should say it was first game of the day,

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Speaker 8: two nothing the final against Toronto. The winning pitcher, Matt Manning,

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01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 8: went six and two third innings, walked three, came out

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01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 8: after ninety one pitches, and when he was pulled in

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01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 8: the seventh did not realize he had a no hitter

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01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 8: going until people on the bench told him. This guy

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Speaker 8: who's era was up near five until today. Three pitchers total,

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Speaker 8: including the closer Alex Lang with his thirteenth save. Here

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01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 8: the game had a rain delay at the start of

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01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 8: almost an hour and a half. Fans stayed top of

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01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 8: the first inning. Hit batter, first batter, walk, second batter.

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Speaker 8: This winds up a combined no hitter. Detroit gets two

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01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 8: runs bottom of the first and two to nothing is

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Speaker 8: the final. By the way, the top of the second

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Speaker 8: inning had a walk and a cot stealing, so it

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01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 8: was looking like a normal game here. Last night Toronto

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Speaker 8: won at Detroit twelve to two. Today, Toronto gets zero

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Speaker 8: hits last year in Major League Baseball, Houston threw a

2342
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 8: combined no hitter against the Yankees. The Yankees did win

2343
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 8: because Garrett Cole pitched again, but honestly, how much longer

2344
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 8: is Aaron Boone going to have this job? Yankees beat

2345
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 8: the cub six ' three. Cole is nine and two

2346
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 8: for let's put it out there, not a very good team.

2347
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 8: His era is two point eighty five this season, seven

2348
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 8: and a third innings for him on the hill today.

2349
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 8: Gencarlo Stanton is now batting two oh eight as he

2350
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 8: hit two homers today. Yankees led six to one in

2351
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 8: the fifth inning of play. The Baltimore Orioles continue having

2352
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 8: a great season. They've won four in a row and

2353
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 8: in the division with the slumping Tampa Bay Rays. Baltimore's

2354
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 8: only two games out. Baltimore won its game six to

2355
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 8: two at Minnesota, six runs in the top of the

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01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 8: second that included two bases loaded walk. The loss to

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01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 8: Sonny Gray. By the way, for the Twins, Joey Gallo

2358
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 8: zero for three with three strikeouts, batting one to eighty nine,

2359
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 8: so really nothing has changed and Tampa Bay lost at

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01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 8: seventh straight game. This was the Fox TV game for

2361
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 8: much of the country Atlanta six to one winners at

2362
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 8: Tampa Bay sellout crowd twenty five thousand and Atlanta gets

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01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 8: another victory, the Rays another loss. In fact, the Ray's

2364
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 8: offense went four for thirty one thirteen strikeouts. You think

2365
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 8: that's bad. The late game, the Mets six game losing

2366
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 8: streak is over. They lost at San Diego three to one.

2367
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 8: The Mets offense three for twenty nine with seventeen strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 8: Not to skip over too much on the Braves, because

2370
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 8: they are by team the story. They've won nineteen of

2371
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 8: twenty one. They've won twenty seven of their last thirty

2372
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 8: one games, so they've gone a full month with only

2373
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 8: four losses. Put it that way, sixty and twenty eight

2374
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 8: is the record.

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01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 3: Thirty at home, thirty on the road to.

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01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 8: Chris and still one game to go. Maybe another win

2377
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 8: tomorrow before All Star Break to repeat. The Angels are

2378
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 8: mercifully on All Star Break. They don't play tomorrow. They

2379
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 8: have lost five straight, gave up five solo homers, lost

2380
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 8: to the Dodgers ten to five tonight.

2381
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 5: If the Angels don't play, they can't lose.

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01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 8: That's correct.

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01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,800
Speaker 2: Maybe reason to keep o Toddy Baby glasses at full

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01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air Torus, Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios. You know, to tease this

2386
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 2: hour at nine pm Pacific, I talked about this playing tournament.

2387
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 2: Jason and I did not get to it, but we're

2388
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 2: gonna dicuss that next There's a lot to peel back

2389
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 2: and the NBA needs to fix it quickly.

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports are.

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01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody Final hour Tours and Martin Fox Sports

2392
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 2: Radio taking you up until two am Eastern Time. Bernie

2393
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 2: Fratto will follow us at the top of the hour.

2394
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 2: Of course, Bernie will join us about twenty minutes from now.

2395
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 2: Bernie lives in Vegas. I think everybody knows that he

2396
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 2: was at kind of some of the events this week.

2397
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a good run down of everything that

2398
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 2: fans need to know about what's going on in Vegas

2399
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 2: this week for Summer League. Should mention, by the way,

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Speaker 2: we are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios,

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Speaker 2: should be, as I said, center of the sports world,

2405
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Speaker 2: at least for the last couple of days, has been

2406
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 2: Last Vegas for Summer League. And one of the big

2407
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 2: stories that has come from Summer League is details on

2408
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 2: the NBA in season tournament, and Jason and I discussed

2409
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 2: it a little bit earlier, but let me just say this.

2410
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 2: I give the NBA credit for wanting to try something

2411
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 2: different to create interest in the early part of their season,

2412
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 2: but safe to say it is a little bit confusing.

2413
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 2: What you need to know essentially is this, there are

2414
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Speaker 2: six five team groups, almost as if, like you know,

2415
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 2: kind of like World Cup when they do the World

2416
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 2: Cup draw. They basically had a draw behind the scenes

2417
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 2: in the NBA, and there are six groups, three with

2418
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 2: the East, three with the West, kind of balancing, you know,

2419
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 2: teams that were really good last year, sort of good

2420
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the barrel. They will play in

2421
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 2: the regular season games that are considered group play games,

2422
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 2: which will then lead to eight or it will lead

2423
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:27,000
Speaker 2: to two teams from each group making the quarterfinals, which

2424
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 2: will lead to semi finals and finals in Las Vegas

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02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 2: on December seventh and December ninth. Obviously, the semifinals. Maybe

2426
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 2: it's not obvious, but the semi finals will fall on

2427
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 2: a Thursday in December, which already kind of raised a

2428
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 2: red flag for me because it means that it will

2429
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 2: be going head to head with Thursday Night Football. Jason,

2430
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 2: I like the concept. I give the NBA credit for

2431
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 2: trying something different, and I should mention that even in

2432
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 2: their announcement today, the NBA readily acknowledge that this is

2433
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 2: going to be a work in progress, that they're not

2434
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 2: going to have all the answers year one, that it's

2435
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 2: going to take time. As Joe Dumars, who is now

2436
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 2: the NBA's executive vice president of Basketball Operation, said, everybody's

2437
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 2: not going to buy in right away, So that can't

2438
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 2: be the goal that everyone's going to buy in from

2439
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 2: day one. These things take time, and I think as

2440
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 2: time goes on, I think you can build this up

2441
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 2: and people can really get into it. With that said, Jason,

2442
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 2: I'll just be blunt. It feels very confusing to me

2443
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 2: because you'll have pool play games in the regular season.

2444
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 2: Excuse me, some will count towards the standings. Obviously, there

2445
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 2: will be plenty of regular season games that do not

2446
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 2: count towards this in season tournament.

2447
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 3: Then.

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02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, as teams get eliminated from the

2449
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 2: nd season tournament, they'll play regular season games that aren't

2450
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 2: part of the tournament. It's a lot, and I know

2451
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 2: it probably sounded confusing for me to talk about it

2452
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,480
Speaker 2: right there, but it's confusing to read it on paper,

2453
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 2: and I think it will be confusing in real time. Jason,

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02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 2: what is your reaction to this?

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02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 3: Let me read this from the athletic. The new tournament

2456
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 3: will have some disruption on the status quo. Teams will

2457
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:01,840
Speaker 3: only have eighty games accounted for in their schedules when

2458
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 3: they were released before the season. Two other games will

2459
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 3: be marked t B D. The twenty two teams that

2460
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 3: don't qualify for the knockout stage, we'll have those two

2461
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 3: other games scheduled on knights of the tournament group stage. Man,

2462
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 3: that's a lot. Aside from including another elimination game into

2463
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 3: the season and handing out a new trophy, there will

2464
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 3: be new jerseys for each team specifically for the nd

2465
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 3: season tournament, and a new setup inside the Arena league.

2466
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 3: The league tinkered and we saw this with a slew

2467
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,400
Speaker 3: of different ideas before landing on this format. Considered giving

2468
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:35,960
Speaker 3: out automatic playoff bersts or draft picks or cap exceptions

2469
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 3: to winning teams. It thought about putting the tournament outside

2470
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:41,960
Speaker 3: of the regular season altogether, not having games count towards

2471
02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:45,240
Speaker 3: the standings, changing some of the rules, like incorporating in

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02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 3: elam ending or forty minute games. All right, now we're

2473
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 3: training on gimmick territory and all this. The issue here

2474
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 3: is just if you want people, if you want the

2475
02:03:56,440 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 3: public to embrace it, make it easy to follow, it

2476
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:05,839
Speaker 3: easy to understand. You don't if you need a physics

2477
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:11,920
Speaker 3: degree or a mathematics degree to understand this thing or

2478
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,000
Speaker 3: to follow it's it's gonna fall flat. Like, Yes, it's

2479
02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 3: gonna take time to embrace. But it better be simple,

2480
02:04:19,240 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 3: like all of the it can't be convoluted in order

2481
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 3: for it to be truly successful. It just simply can't.

2482
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 3: There are too many situations where it's too complicated off

2483
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:32,840
Speaker 3: the start and it loses people before it has a

2484
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 3: chance to gain ground. We have to be able to

2485
02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 3: understand it. Here's the best example I can give you.

2486
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:42,680
Speaker 3: Even though it's still sort of a thing trying to follow.

2487
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 3: In golf, the FedEx Cup standings throughout the season, most

2488
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 3: people can't. Are they gonna watch that final tournament where

2489
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 3: there's only a certain amount of people playing. Of course,

2490
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 3: because most of the big stars are playing that we

2491
02:04:57,800 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 3: can because they're the ones that have had the best seasons.

2492
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 3: But trying to understand from one tournament to the next,

2493
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:05,320
Speaker 3: what this tournament means and this point total in that

2494
02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 3: point total in all this tennis rankings, let's say, with

2495
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 3: Wimbledon on the screen right now. Tennis rankings also can

2496
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 3: get kind of convoluted. But the fact that there's actually

2497
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 3: a cup in golf, you know, an award that's given

2498
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 3: out to whoever has the most points here, it's hard

2499
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 3: to follow. You can tell me what the Masters is,

2500
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 3: you can tell me what US Open is, the Open Championship,

2501
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 3: the PGA Championship, all that kind of stuff, but you

2502
02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 3: can't always follow these other things that are going on.

2503
02:05:32,600 --> 02:05:35,920
Speaker 3: So when you're looking at something like this, you are

2504
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:40,840
Speaker 3: looking at a second championship. And that's exactly what the

2505
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 3: EVP of Basketball Strategy and Analytics for the NBA said.

2506
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 3: He said, we think this is a really unique opportunity

2507
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:53,400
Speaker 3: to create a second championship, something teams can chase early

2508
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 3: in the season, and there's where my problem comes, because

2509
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:03,680
Speaker 3: you must have buy in from everybody in the league

2510
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 3: that plays in that league. You've got to have all

2511
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:09,720
Speaker 3: the stars dialed in. If this thing at all smells

2512
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:14,760
Speaker 3: like the stars aren't invested in it, you've lost the second.

2513
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 3: We believe it's inauthentic to the biggest stars that they

2514
02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 3: don't care about this, You're going to have an impossible

2515
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 3: task in trying to get us to care about it.

2516
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 3: That's my only skepticism. I want it to work, I

2517
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 3: truly do, but it does seem a little bit hard

2518
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 3: to follow. And we're dealing with the sport where we

2519
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 3: criticize load management and guys taking weekend primetime games off

2520
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 3: on national television and all of this. As great as

2521
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,880
Speaker 3: the postseason can be, if this tournament could be anything

2522
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 3: like that, that would be phenomenal. I'm just skeptical, even

2523
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:47,160
Speaker 3: though I'm hopeful.

2524
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 2: You hit on everything there and I agree with everything.

2525
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:56,000
Speaker 2: Is that I think there's two fundamental issues to me

2526
02:06:56,720 --> 02:07:00,000
Speaker 2: that I believe are like major issues with this tournament.

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02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 5: One just insanely confused. Just insanely confusing.

2528
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 2: Because again, as I said a minute ago, you're gonna

2529
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 2: have games during the regular season that count towards the

2530
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 2: standings in the lead up to the main tournament. But

2531
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 2: then you're gonna have games that don't, and then you're

2532
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 2: gonna have teams playing in the tournament, but there's gonna

2533
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 2: be games, you know, not going on that aren't part

2534
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:25,840
Speaker 2: of the tournament. It's just all very confusing. I think

2535
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 2: the second part is exactly what you just said. Getting

2536
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:33,880
Speaker 2: buy in from players. I don't know, respectfully that five

2537
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars moves the needle for a lot of

2538
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:40,680
Speaker 2: these guys. And so you're complicating the process, you're complicating

2539
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 2: the season, You're throwing uncertainty into the season. And you know,

2540
02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 2: I guess the only example I can use, Jason, or

2541
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 2: not the only one, but an example that comes to mind.

2542
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 5: I think we all kind of know, like the history.

2543
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but they did

2544
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 2: a documentary a few months back about the Redeemed Team.

2545
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,800
Speaker 2: Do you remember that Tobe Lebron, Dwayne Wade or whatever.

2546
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 2: And the problem with USA basketball at the time was

2547
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 2: that the star players weren't bought in, and essentially it

2548
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:12,080
Speaker 2: was Jerry Colangelo and Coach K's job to get everybody

2549
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 2: to buy in. And that is where we have seen

2550
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:17,120
Speaker 2: the rebirth of Team USA basketball, where they've won every

2551
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:19,200
Speaker 2: gold medal since the two thousand and eight Olympics after

2552
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:21,920
Speaker 2: finishing I think at fifth or sixth place in twenty

2553
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 2: two thousand and four. And so I bring it up

2554
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:27,800
Speaker 2: because that's exactly right. If all of the star players

2555
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 2: are bought in, if this matters to the star players,

2556
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:32,800
Speaker 2: then I think everybody else falls in line. But if

2557
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 2: you're Lebron James, you're making fifty million dollars next year,

2558
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:39,400
Speaker 2: and now you got to play this weird tournament where

2559
02:08:39,440 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 2: there's stuff on the line, but there's sort of stuff

2560
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:43,240
Speaker 2: not on the line. And oh, by the way, we

2561
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 2: know how this is gonna work. If Lebron makes it

2562
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,920
Speaker 2: to the NBA Cup Championship Game but he loses, people

2563
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 2: are gonna use it against him. I just don't know

2564
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 2: in year one, especially one, it's just overly confusing, and two, I.

2565
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:58,680
Speaker 5: Don't know if guys are gonna buy in. And so

2566
02:08:58,760 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 5: I think it's a fascinating thing.

2567
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:02,120
Speaker 2: And I'll go back to something I said earlier in

2568
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 2: the show, Jason, it's too complicated. I don't understand this

2569
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:09,800
Speaker 2: was sold as basically NBA March madness. So why can

2570
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 2: we not just put together a single elimination tournament that

2571
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:15,600
Speaker 2: takes place over a four to five day stretch, whether

2572
02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 2: it is in December before the Christmas Day games, whether

2573
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 2: it's after December as NFL dies down.

2574
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 5: I think that's the answer. I think it's that simple.

2575
02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 2: Get everybody in one place, make it a thing, have four,

2576
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 2: five six games in a day, start at noon Eastern

2577
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 2: like we have in the NCAA tournament, and play until

2578
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock at night. It seems so simple, and it

2579
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 2: seems like they overly complicated this. Maybe maybe I'm being

2580
02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:42,960
Speaker 2: too harsh on the league, but it just it doesn't

2581
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 2: seem like it has to be that complicated. We get

2582
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 2: a single elimination tournament where five hundred thousand dollars goes

2583
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 2: to the winner or whatever. I think you get people

2584
02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:53,560
Speaker 2: bought in. But now you have this and you have that,

2585
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:55,040
Speaker 2: and it's this game counts.

2586
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 4: For this, but not that.

2587
02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 5: It just it just feels too much.

2588
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 3: Jason, Yeah, I mean, look, what are the two biggest

2589
02:09:59,120 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 3: days in the NBA count outside of the playoffs. I mean,

2590
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 3: I guess you could throw the All Star Game in there,

2591
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 3: but it's Christmas Day and Martin Luther King Day, And

2592
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:08,680
Speaker 3: there are days where the game start at eleven AM

2593
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:12,080
Speaker 3: Eastern Time, and then they roll to eleven you know,

2594
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:16,400
Speaker 3: Pacific time PM, And you've got a couple games on ESPN,

2595
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 3: You've got three games on TNT. You maybe even got

2596
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 3: game on ABC throughout the day, but you got five

2597
02:10:22,200 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 3: or six games. It's just wall to wall basketball. So

2598
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 3: your idea is really good. I like it a lot

2599
02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:30,120
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, because it would just be

2600
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 3: fascinating to watch, and it would be it would give

2601
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 3: It would be the only way that the NBA could

2602
02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:40,040
Speaker 3: create the kind of chaos that comes from the NCAA tournament.

2603
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 3: It's the only way that they could really ever do

2604
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 3: that this thing because of the way it's set up,

2605
02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 3: the times of the games. And we're gonna try. They

2606
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 3: say they're trying to encourage the big stars to play.

2607
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:51,240
Speaker 3: This is from the NBA.

2608
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:51,480
Speaker 2: Now.

2609
02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 3: They are trying to encourage the big stars to play

2610
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:56,760
Speaker 3: by doing their best not to schedule back to backs

2611
02:10:56,840 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 3: during this. So they're already trying to find ways to

2612
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 3: get the big stars to be in on this by

2613
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 3: making it easier, making the schedule a little bit easier

2614
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 3: here and there. They already know this is an uphill

2615
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:15,880
Speaker 3: climb for their own guys. Inside everything that's going on,

2616
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:19,839
Speaker 3: it is a big time challenge for them. If it works,

2617
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 3: and maybe it will, and again I hope that it does,

2618
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 3: because it'd be awesome to have something like this that counts.

2619
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 3: My skepticism is already if they don't, if the players

2620
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 3: don't care about the stakes, if the stakes don't feel real,

2621
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 3: if winning that cup means nothing, if it's just something

2622
02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:38,920
Speaker 3: for a team that's not gonna win an NBA championship

2623
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 3: to do for their fans or whatever like that. If

2624
02:11:41,760 --> 02:11:45,320
Speaker 3: it's deemed that way the monetary side, it's just not

2625
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:49,480
Speaker 3: really enough for the biggest stars to for to move

2626
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 3: the needle for a lot of those guys.

2627
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 4: I just.

2628
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:56,240
Speaker 3: The NBA is not the league where I feel the

2629
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,080
Speaker 3: most confident in this, I guess is the way that

2630
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 3: I would put it BA based on the way that

2631
02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 3: they have behaved, the way that the players have behaved.

2632
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:06,680
Speaker 3: When it comes to the schedule they already have. I

2633
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:09,400
Speaker 3: had thought, you know, maybe get rid of having eighty

2634
02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:12,040
Speaker 3: two games, find a way so that you can get

2635
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 3: more guys dialed in. Maybe this will work. Maybe it will.

2636
02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 3: Maybe behind closed doors, they are, you know, doing what

2637
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 3: they can to negotiate with the players to make sure

2638
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 3: that they're in on this. If the player the fans

2639
02:12:22,520 --> 02:12:24,800
Speaker 3: will be there. I'll be there, no question about it.

2640
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 3: But if I get a hint this thing is not

2641
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:31,080
Speaker 3: authentic in the eyes of the NBA players that I'm out.

2642
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, just seems like I'm not trying to oversimplify this.

2643
02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 2: It just seems like single elimination tournaments the way to go.

2644
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:41,720
Speaker 2: Get everybody involved, everybody interested, every game matters. I mean,

2645
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,240
Speaker 2: that was what we love about the play in games

2646
02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 2: that they've added to the playoff schedules. It's winter or

2647
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:51,440
Speaker 2: go home. This you know, this honestly feels like Jason,

2648
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 2: I think most everybody in that's listening has probably been

2649
02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:57,680
Speaker 2: in this moment in time, especially if you've worked in

2650
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 2: corporate America. You know that that starts off with one

2651
02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 2: intention and then there's twenty people in the meeting and

2652
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:06,400
Speaker 2: everybody feels like they have to give their input, and

2653
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it just gets completely sideways, and

2654
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:12,920
Speaker 2: whatever the original idea was gets twisted thirty seven different

2655
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 2: ways just to make everybody feel like they're involved. This

2656
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 2: feels like there was you know, twenty people in the

2657
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:21,480
Speaker 2: NBA offices that felt like they had to justify their

2658
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:24,120
Speaker 2: salaries and give their little input, and it just fe

2659
02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know, Like you know the gif of

2660
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 2: you know, the guy like with all the posts on

2661
02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:32,440
Speaker 2: the poster board and he's pointing in all different directions.

2662
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:35,839
Speaker 2: That's how I feel thinking about this, about this tournament.

2663
02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 2: Not wishing the NBA it will, but I do wonder

2664
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 2: if it's going to work. Fox Sports Radio Errators Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: The announcement of the play in Tournament or the midseason Tournament,

2670
02:13:57,560 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 2: was done at NBA Con today, which is in Vegas

2671
02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:02,440
Speaker 2: as part of Summer League.

2672
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 5: You know who else was at NBA CONN earlier this week.

2673
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:06,800
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto, He's gonna have thoughts on the play in

2674
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 2: tournament on Otani, the setup in Vegas. Bernie's gonna deliver

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Speaker 2: it means that we're gonna be welcoming. Welcoming in Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddo of The Bernie Fratto Show. Bernie, let's jump right

2685
02:14:49,240 --> 02:14:51,160
Speaker 2: to it. So Summer League is the center of the

2686
02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 2: universe right now, and I want to talk to you

2687
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:55,760
Speaker 2: about a lot of things going on this week, but

2688
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:58,800
Speaker 2: I want to start with this burn. Today at NBA

2689
02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:01,400
Speaker 2: Con in Vegas, they announced kind of some of these

2690
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:05,400
Speaker 2: details about this play mid season tournament. I find the

2691
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:08,560
Speaker 2: whole thing very confusing. I think fans will find it

2692
02:15:08,680 --> 02:15:11,240
Speaker 2: confusing during the season. Do you have any immediate takeaways

2693
02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:12,240
Speaker 2: from what was announced today?

2694
02:15:13,240 --> 02:15:15,400
Speaker 9: A lot of thoughts gone into this over the last

2695
02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:18,480
Speaker 9: fifteen years. The players are on board, They ratified the

2696
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:21,000
Speaker 9: CBA July first. I think we just have to let

2697
02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 9: it play out and see if it works. They explained everything.

2698
02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 9: We're drinking through a fire hose right now. Don't try

2699
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,520
Speaker 9: to swallow the elephant hole. It's all gonna take place

2700
02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 9: between November three and December ninth, and it'll come together.

2701
02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:36,880
Speaker 9: And I will tell you. I talked to Steve Currie, says,

2702
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 9: you know, everybody was against the playing tournament, but hey,

2703
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:42,040
Speaker 9: Golden State was the beneficiary of being in the playing tournament,

2704
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:45,240
Speaker 9: as were the Lakers. So I think we wait, let

2705
02:15:45,320 --> 02:15:47,360
Speaker 9: this play out a year and see what it looks

2706
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:50,400
Speaker 9: like after we've get one. We've gotten one under our belt.

2707
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:54,920
Speaker 3: Look, I don't need the rational take Bernie like.

2708
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 5: That's not I also like the Steve Kurka Yeah yeah,

2709
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:00,560
Speaker 5: nice as this.

2710
02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:02,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I was just talking to Steve Kerr.

2711
02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:06,000
Speaker 9: We were in and out not not not not the

2712
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:08,320
Speaker 9: coach for for the Golden State where some guy went

2713
02:16:08,360 --> 02:16:08,920
Speaker 9: teh great with.

2714
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:17,680
Speaker 3: The Yeah, Stephen Kerr, that's it. Yeah yeah yeah. Uh So,

2715
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:22,360
Speaker 3: speaking of hyperbole and waiting to see how things play out,

2716
02:16:22,520 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 3: Victor win Binyanna he debuted on Friday. Uh, he's not

2717
02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:29,320
Speaker 3: going to go to the Hall of Fame tomorrow. He's

2718
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:31,440
Speaker 3: also not going to be on the first train to

2719
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 3: the G League tomorrow. What's the truth and what are

2720
02:16:35,200 --> 02:16:37,880
Speaker 3: you hearing from your your moles and what did you

2721
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:40,600
Speaker 3: observe as well about that debut.

2722
02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:42,920
Speaker 9: So I'm going to break this down into three parts,

2723
02:16:43,080 --> 02:16:45,760
Speaker 9: and I'm going to be objective. Look, there are objective truths,

2724
02:16:46,360 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 9: there are personal feelings. I've been covering the NBA Summer

2725
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 9: League for eleven years, been covering the NBA for a

2726
02:16:52,600 --> 02:16:57,160
Speaker 9: long time. Number One, quick observations. The dude's got some handles. Okay,

2727
02:16:57,720 --> 02:16:59,880
Speaker 9: he's got a wingspan, he's gotta be like thirty five.

2728
02:17:00,320 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 9: Pretty good vision, good passer. Showed some instincts, so it's

2729
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 9: a maturity of maturity. In the after game interview, he

2730
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:12,039
Speaker 9: got knocked off his pins a lot in traffic. He's

2731
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 9: got to get a lot stronger. I kind of compare

2732
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:16,959
Speaker 9: him to Peyton Manning. Good passer, not real fleet of foot,

2733
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:21,320
Speaker 9: So we'll start there, all right. Number Two, I keep hearing,

2734
02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:23,400
Speaker 9: well he's only nineteen, Well he's only nineteen When he's

2735
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:27,520
Speaker 9: only nineteen, all right, we've been they've been telling us

2736
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:30,880
Speaker 9: he's an all timer. You know, has it not been

2737
02:17:30,959 --> 02:17:34,520
Speaker 9: shoved on our throat that this guy's at all? Timer Well,

2738
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:37,960
Speaker 9: I saw Magic Johnson at nineteen. I saw Darryl Dawkins

2739
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:40,160
Speaker 9: in nineteen. I saw Bill Walton in nineteen. I saw

2740
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:43,040
Speaker 9: Lebron at nineteen. I saw Kobe Bryant at nineteen. I

2741
02:17:43,080 --> 02:17:46,040
Speaker 9: saw young lou Al Sinder at nineteen when he was

2742
02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:49,840
Speaker 9: a sophomore at UCLA. In terms of stage of development,

2743
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:54,880
Speaker 9: Wimbin Yama is nowhere near any of those guys. It's

2744
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:58,240
Speaker 9: not even close. And he's got to rev up his motor.

2745
02:17:58,280 --> 02:18:00,440
Speaker 9: He's got to get into the NBA's shape. He was

2746
02:18:00,560 --> 02:18:03,840
Speaker 9: gas last night, and I'm telling you, I'm telling you

2747
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:07,680
Speaker 9: a summer league game is maybe twenty percent of an

2748
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:11,000
Speaker 9: NBA game. Now I've seen some other debuts. This is

2749
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:15,240
Speaker 9: the third part. Let's juxtapose the first impression that Wembin

2750
02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:19,520
Speaker 9: Yama gave last night with some other debuts. Twenty nineteen.

2751
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:22,840
Speaker 9: I saw Zion Man against boys, and now I realize

2752
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:27,560
Speaker 9: he's hurt, he can't play, But when he's on the floor,

2753
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:32,480
Speaker 9: Man against boys. Saw Damian Lillard eleven years ago, he

2754
02:18:32,640 --> 02:18:37,480
Speaker 9: was incredible. Devin Booker, even Dion Waiters Andrew Wiggins, Chris

2755
02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:42,720
Speaker 9: STAPs Porsingi's outstanding. If wem bin Yama's name was Joe

2756
02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:45,440
Speaker 9: Slobotnik and he showed up last night and everything was

2757
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:47,879
Speaker 9: the same. He looked like another guy on the floor. Now,

2758
02:18:47,959 --> 02:18:51,320
Speaker 9: having said that, let's let this play out, let's let

2759
02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:55,080
Speaker 9: it be developed, he is a long way away from

2760
02:18:55,160 --> 02:18:58,080
Speaker 9: being anywhere near the all timer that everybody told us

2761
02:18:58,160 --> 02:18:58,400
Speaker 9: he was.

2762
02:18:58,720 --> 02:19:00,720
Speaker 2: Burn It's so funny because I was watching last night

2763
02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:02,480
Speaker 2: and that was actually my takeaway as well. It's like

2764
02:19:03,160 --> 02:19:06,480
Speaker 2: if he was just like if we weren't told he

2765
02:19:06,600 --> 02:19:09,240
Speaker 2: was the number one overall pick. He looked like a

2766
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:14,160
Speaker 2: very toolsy but very high upside guy that you just

2767
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:17,040
Speaker 2: see in any other summer league in any other year.

2768
02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:20,080
Speaker 2: So we're all nobody's rooting against him, but there's a

2769
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:22,720
Speaker 2: long way to go real quick. Being in Vegas this

2770
02:19:22,959 --> 02:19:26,119
Speaker 2: NBA Con, they've made a big thing for it again.

2771
02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:29,240
Speaker 2: It's where the announcement was made about the play in tournament.

2772
02:19:29,640 --> 02:19:31,039
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about it because it seems

2773
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:31,720
Speaker 2: like a pretty cool event.

2774
02:19:32,959 --> 02:19:35,160
Speaker 9: Well, I think you know what the NBA wants to

2775
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,760
Speaker 9: do is find ways to generate more revenue, find ways

2776
02:19:37,800 --> 02:19:41,800
Speaker 9: to draw more attention to the regular season, and so

2777
02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:45,080
Speaker 9: it feels a little gimmicky, but it's been done in soccer,

2778
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:47,879
Speaker 9: you know, for a long time, and Adam Silver has

2779
02:19:47,920 --> 02:19:50,240
Speaker 9: had designs and wanted to do this for fifteen years

2780
02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:52,920
Speaker 9: and when he was David Stearn's assistant. By the way,

2781
02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:56,360
Speaker 9: the other thing that came out, and not for nothing,

2782
02:19:56,959 --> 02:19:58,760
Speaker 9: is that they're going to redo the flop rule. The

2783
02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:00,879
Speaker 9: Board of Governors are going to vote on it here

2784
02:20:00,920 --> 02:20:03,920
Speaker 9: in about a month. They're experimenting it in the summer league.

2785
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:06,200
Speaker 9: So if you are a deem do have flopped, the

2786
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:08,000
Speaker 9: other team can get a free throw, you can get

2787
02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:11,440
Speaker 9: charged to foul, lots of experimental things, and they don't

2788
02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:14,360
Speaker 9: call the flop live and blow the whistle, so you

2789
02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:16,920
Speaker 9: could have a flop, play could continue and then there's

2790
02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:20,240
Speaker 9: a whistle to stop play or a neutral situation, and

2791
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 9: then the referee afterward goes back and calls to flop.

2792
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:26,120
Speaker 9: And so I think it's an idea whose time has come.

2793
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:31,000
Speaker 9: I remember with Lebron in the postgame press conference during

2794
02:20:31,040 --> 02:20:32,760
Speaker 9: the playoffs as well. I've never been a part of

2795
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:35,120
Speaker 9: team we don't flop. And I saw a video montage

2796
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:37,000
Speaker 9: about a week ago with all his flops, including in

2797
02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:39,720
Speaker 9: the NBA Finals in eleven. No one likes to flop.

2798
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:41,280
Speaker 9: The NBA is going to fix it. That's another thing

2799
02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:41,760
Speaker 9: that came out.

2800
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't like to flop. He never flopped. And

2801
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:48,440
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan never challenged a foul call exactly. Think, Yeah,

2802
02:20:48,520 --> 02:20:51,760
Speaker 3: it's just a we have eyes, like eventually that's going

2803
02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:53,560
Speaker 3: to be the case. By the way, because we have eyes,

2804
02:20:53,560 --> 02:20:55,840
Speaker 3: we're staying what show. Hey, o Tani is doing? Bertie.

2805
02:20:56,200 --> 02:20:58,560
Speaker 3: We had John Morosi on earlier and he gave us

2806
02:20:58,600 --> 02:21:01,960
Speaker 3: all kinds of phenomenal And for me about Otawi, it

2807
02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:04,000
Speaker 3: just keeps getting better. He hit his thirty second home

2808
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:06,640
Speaker 3: run last night. What do you make of what we're

2809
02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 3: seeing right now with Otani?

2810
02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:12,400
Speaker 9: Well, imagine if La daily Cruz could pitch It's true.

2811
02:21:12,720 --> 02:21:15,120
Speaker 9: Great five years from now, you know, you're you're in

2812
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:18,039
Speaker 9: Cincinnati and you're having a Hu to pole and maybe

2813
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,040
Speaker 9: your favorite brought or met. You're saying, Ah, we never

2814
02:21:20,080 --> 02:21:21,720
Speaker 9: win with this guy, Maybe we should trade him. Are

2815
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:24,959
Speaker 9: you kidding me? Let me give some historical perspective here.

2816
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,480
Speaker 9: A gentleman by the name of Harry Frazy owned the

2817
02:21:28,520 --> 02:21:32,720
Speaker 9: Boston Red Sox and he was also a theatrical producer.

2818
02:21:32,760 --> 02:21:35,840
Speaker 9: And after Babe ruth sixth year in the major leagues,

2819
02:21:35,879 --> 02:21:38,240
Speaker 9: now they only let him back full time a sixth year.

2820
02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:40,760
Speaker 9: He had three twenty two with twenty nine home runs

2821
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:42,920
Speaker 9: and one hundred and thirteen RBIs that year. By the way,

2822
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:46,000
Speaker 9: they may sound like a lot back in nineteen eighteen,

2823
02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:50,119
Speaker 9: but nineteen nineteen, but there were whole teams only hitting

2824
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:53,200
Speaker 9: like twelve home runs back in nineteen nineteen. By the

2825
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:56,280
Speaker 9: end of Babe ruth sixth year as a pitcher, he

2826
02:21:56,400 --> 02:21:58,160
Speaker 9: was ninety two and forty one with a two point

2827
02:21:58,200 --> 02:22:01,599
Speaker 9: two era with tani Is the thirty five and eighteen Coincidentally,

2828
02:22:02,240 --> 02:22:06,840
Speaker 9: finishing his sixth year, Harry Frazy decided to sell Babe

2829
02:22:06,920 --> 02:22:09,440
Speaker 9: Ruth to the New York Yankees for one hundred thousand

2830
02:22:09,480 --> 02:22:12,640
Speaker 9: dollars so he could finance to play No No, No Net.

2831
02:22:13,280 --> 02:22:15,560
Speaker 9: He never lived it down, and the Curse of the

2832
02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:18,920
Speaker 9: Bambino was born. This is a big elephant in the room.

2833
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:22,480
Speaker 9: Number one. As an owner, you're obligated to put the best,

2834
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:25,360
Speaker 9: most competitive, most entertaining team on the field, put puts

2835
02:22:25,440 --> 02:22:28,800
Speaker 9: and seats. You don't do that without shohe Atani number

2836
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:32,320
Speaker 9: two in this Man's MLB, this playoff format. If you're

2837
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:35,160
Speaker 9: merely five hundred on Labor Day, you're in the hunt.

2838
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:38,280
Speaker 9: Let's fast forward to September first. Can the Angels be

2839
02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:40,840
Speaker 9: five hundred? Yes they can. They're going through a bad

2840
02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:43,720
Speaker 9: patch right now. That's what happens in baseball. That's why

2841
02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:45,920
Speaker 9: Sparky Anderson said it was the greatest one hundred and

2842
02:22:45,959 --> 02:22:49,240
Speaker 9: sixty two games, the great evening out. Otani is only

2843
02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:52,119
Speaker 9: twenty nine years old. He's entering his prime. He's got

2844
02:22:52,200 --> 02:22:55,360
Speaker 9: many serviceable years left. Angels got him on a bargain,

2845
02:22:56,280 --> 02:22:58,400
Speaker 9: so you hold on to this guy. You don't let

2846
02:22:58,480 --> 02:23:03,000
Speaker 9: a babe Ruthian legend get a way like Harry Frosy did. Finally,

2847
02:23:03,440 --> 02:23:07,160
Speaker 9: this is show business, people, people forget. Not only does

2848
02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:09,560
Speaker 9: Otani put on a show every night, including the fact

2849
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:12,480
Speaker 9: he has an outside chance to pass Maris and Aaron

2850
02:23:12,560 --> 02:23:15,760
Speaker 9: Judge's season get over sixty home runs, but winning is

2851
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:19,080
Speaker 9: the best entertainment. And when a Tawny pitches, he gives

2852
02:23:19,120 --> 02:23:21,720
Speaker 9: you the best chance to win. This is an organization

2853
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 9: that needs and wants to win one World Series in

2854
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:28,440
Speaker 9: two thousand and two, and that's it. You do not

2855
02:23:29,320 --> 02:23:36,240
Speaker 9: set your franchise forward in anyway by trading show Yotani. No, not, no, never.

2856
02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:40,520
Speaker 5: And as John Morosi told this earlier too, you gotta

2857
02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:40,959
Speaker 5: keep in mind.

2858
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he could be going for sixty

2859
02:23:43,040 --> 02:23:45,320
Speaker 2: sixty one, sixty two home runs into September. Even if

2860
02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 2: you're not winning, he could still be a box office truck, right.

2861
02:23:47,879 --> 02:23:50,000
Speaker 9: No, I just mentioned that that he could catch Maris

2862
02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:53,000
Speaker 9: and he could catch Yeah, exactly what I just said.

2863
02:23:53,240 --> 02:23:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was just saying. It was just confirming

2864
02:23:55,280 --> 02:23:56,960
Speaker 2: what Moros he said earlier. But of course what you

2865
02:23:57,000 --> 02:23:57,840
Speaker 2: said as well, even if.

2866
02:23:57,760 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 3: You're not gonna keep him, he better do that in

2867
02:23:59,240 --> 02:23:59,879
Speaker 3: your uniform.

2868
02:24:00,360 --> 02:24:01,120
Speaker 5: That's exactly right.

2869
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:03,760
Speaker 9: And so I will tell you this. I'll be at

2870
02:24:03,800 --> 02:24:06,320
Speaker 9: the NBA economorrow. I'm gonna ask Steve Kerr his thoughts.

2871
02:24:07,760 --> 02:24:10,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know Tani, Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, all right,

2872
02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:11,040
Speaker 5: why not?

2873
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:12,920
Speaker 9: Man, I made a friend. No, I see him every year.

2874
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:14,320
Speaker 5: It's yeah, okay, I'm.

2875
02:24:14,160 --> 02:24:16,360
Speaker 9: A name dropper. I'm a loser. Good Night, folks, you've

2876
02:24:16,360 --> 02:24:17,080
Speaker 9: been a great audience.

2877
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:19,160
Speaker 5: Well, not good night for you, because you're gonna be

2878
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:20,000
Speaker 5: on at the top of the hour.

2879
02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:24,000
Speaker 3: Bernie more Bird more let's go, what's the what the

2880
02:24:24,080 --> 02:24:28,520
Speaker 3: odds on Wemby's security versus Britney Spears.

2881
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:32,320
Speaker 9: No, stop, you know, you know it's funny. You know

2882
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:35,160
Speaker 9: it's funny. I saw I saw a stat today that

2883
02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:38,400
Speaker 9: Martin Zuckerberg, in the last two years alone, he's spend

2884
02:24:38,480 --> 02:24:42,560
Speaker 9: forty three million dollars on personal security. Now, I don't

2885
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:45,360
Speaker 9: give a flying horses patwo about this whole Britney Spears

2886
02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:48,920
Speaker 9: Victor Women Yama thing. I do know this that we're

2887
02:24:48,959 --> 02:24:51,800
Speaker 9: talking about it because we don't have royalty in this country.

2888
02:24:52,200 --> 02:24:55,600
Speaker 9: Our athletes and our entertainers are our royalty. And look,

2889
02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:58,879
Speaker 9: Britney Spears has been getting it. I'm not really a fan, okay,

2890
02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:01,680
Speaker 9: but h she'd been getting it done for what twenty

2891
02:25:01,720 --> 02:25:04,480
Speaker 9: two years now. And the reason that this is news

2892
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:08,680
Speaker 9: is because of her pop culture status and her pop

2893
02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:13,280
Speaker 9: success as a musician. And Wemban Yama we've already been

2894
02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:15,480
Speaker 9: told he's an all timer. This is like the perfect

2895
02:25:15,520 --> 02:25:19,040
Speaker 9: storm for twenty twenty three a social media and wila,

2896
02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:21,240
Speaker 9: you got nothing. But we're talking about it.

2897
02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:24,400
Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, it's like celebrity mad libs is

2898
02:25:24,480 --> 02:25:27,720
Speaker 2: basically what it is, just filling two random names and

2899
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:30,000
Speaker 2: you couldn't get quite more random than that so far.

2900
02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:32,440
Speaker 9: Don't you think it's ironic that the person that's already

2901
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:35,000
Speaker 9: had the twenty two year career is chasing the person

2902
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:37,000
Speaker 9: who hadn't even played one NBA Summer League yet.

2903
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:39,720
Speaker 2: Of course, I also think it's weird that she claims, oh,

2904
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:42,080
Speaker 2: I just wanted to wish him good luck. I'm sorry,

2905
02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:44,600
Speaker 2: I don't buy that Britney Spears is just sitting at

2906
02:25:44,600 --> 02:25:47,200
Speaker 2: home on Draft night with her pen and paper, you know,

2907
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:50,720
Speaker 2: watching Victor Winn Binyama highlights and taking notes. I think

2908
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:53,720
Speaker 2: she saw a really tall guy, and maybe she's.

2909
02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:55,600
Speaker 5: A bigger basketball fan than I know. Maybe I'm being meet.

2910
02:25:55,959 --> 02:25:59,120
Speaker 9: You'd be surprised, man, how many rock stars want to

2911
02:25:59,160 --> 02:26:01,680
Speaker 9: meet athletes, and how many athletes want to meet rockstir's.

2912
02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:04,600
Speaker 9: They're human, right, It's not so much that their starstruck.

2913
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:07,000
Speaker 9: It's more than they understand what it takes to get

2914
02:26:07,000 --> 02:26:09,040
Speaker 9: to your top of your game and the excellence and

2915
02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:12,080
Speaker 9: the you know, we're star crazed in America. And I

2916
02:26:12,360 --> 02:26:15,280
Speaker 9: genuinely think she knew who he was and said, oh wow,

2917
02:26:15,480 --> 02:26:17,280
Speaker 9: I want to get a picture with him. You know,

2918
02:26:17,720 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 9: beyond that, I will give it zero time on my

2919
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:21,119
Speaker 9: shoulder tonight.

2920
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:23,000
Speaker 5: The one guy I always want to get a picture

2921
02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:24,760
Speaker 5: with when I'm in Vegas, Bernie Fratto.

2922
02:26:25,400 --> 02:26:28,160
Speaker 2: You can listen to him, fell Yeah, listen. You and

2923
02:26:28,240 --> 02:26:30,440
Speaker 2: I kicked it out out back Steakhouse the last time

2924
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:31,320
Speaker 2: I was there. Was a great time.

2925
02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:32,400
Speaker 9: Enjoyed every minute.

2926
02:26:32,680 --> 02:26:34,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Bernie will be listening to you at the top

2927
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:36,840
Speaker 2: of the hour. Make sure to follow Bernie on Twitter

2928
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:39,640
Speaker 2: at Bernie Fratto and we'll be listening to Bernie.

2929
02:26:39,680 --> 02:26:39,920
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2930
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:42,080
Speaker 9: All right, you two knuckle aheads, stay out of trouble.

2931
02:26:42,120 --> 02:26:42,240
Speaker 3: Now.

2932
02:26:42,640 --> 02:26:46,200
Speaker 2: All that is for Bernie Fratto of the Bernie Freddo Show.

2933
02:26:46,200 --> 02:26:48,840
Speaker 2: It is way too late for that. Especially, we got

2934
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:52,000
Speaker 2: to talk about a budding new relationship in the sports

2935
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:53,080
Speaker 2: where we'll discuss that next.

2936
02:26:53,120 --> 02:26:53,760
Speaker 5: First to Sega.

2937
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:56,640
Speaker 8: What's trending in Vegas tonight? By the way, there was

2938
02:26:56,760 --> 02:27:02,520
Speaker 8: USC two ninety and Alexander Volkanowski UFC featherweight gets another victory.

2939
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:05,120
Speaker 8: You were talking about the NBA's announcement tonight this in

2940
02:27:05,320 --> 02:27:09,039
Speaker 8: season tournament most of the games in November LA times

2941
02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:12,200
Speaker 8: route tonight. Expect this change to be met with skepticism

2942
02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:15,640
Speaker 8: and in some cases mockery, Here's their point. Consider what

2943
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:17,840
Speaker 8: would happen if the Lakers were to win the tournament.

2944
02:27:18,360 --> 02:27:22,160
Speaker 8: For any organization with such a rich championship history, taking

2945
02:27:22,240 --> 02:27:26,199
Speaker 8: home the NBA Cup would seem like some gimmicky trinket.

2946
02:27:26,840 --> 02:27:30,440
Speaker 8: Imagine trying to hang a banner for that. Another pitball

2947
02:27:30,560 --> 02:27:32,440
Speaker 8: could be if a team like the Clippers would what

2948
02:27:32,480 --> 02:27:34,600
Speaker 8: I was just gonna say, and they do hang a banner,

2949
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:35,400
Speaker 8: and they'll be busched.

2950
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:38,080
Speaker 5: You know how much crap Lake you know to say

2951
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:39,000
Speaker 5: you've lived here forever?

2952
02:27:39,560 --> 02:27:43,000
Speaker 2: How much crap Lakers fans would give Clippers fans if

2953
02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:45,680
Speaker 2: the Clippers won it and then hung a banner be unbelievable.

2954
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:48,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, it would kind of like when the building has

2955
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:53,120
Speaker 8: the Taylors with banner most sellouts, it's like, sure, sorry,

2956
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:53,480
Speaker 8: what is.

2957
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:54,080
Speaker 3: This doing here?

2958
02:27:54,480 --> 02:27:57,640
Speaker 5: Like a school hanging n it T banners in college basketballs?

2959
02:27:57,879 --> 02:28:00,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Reggie Miller's n ILA might have a

2960
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:04,280
Speaker 8: beenner somewhere there. At Polling. The Spurs gave coach Greg

2961
02:28:04,400 --> 02:28:07,680
Speaker 8: Popovich a new five year contract, reportedly worth more than

2962
02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:11,080
Speaker 8: eighty million dollars. The Hawks acquired veteran guard Patty Mills.

2963
02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:14,520
Speaker 8: Golden State gave Dario Sarich a one year deal. Portland

2964
02:28:14,600 --> 02:28:16,880
Speaker 8: rookie guard Scoot Henderson will not play in the Summer

2965
02:28:16,959 --> 02:28:19,360
Speaker 8: League tomorrow night against the Spurs to rest his shoulder.

2966
02:28:19,440 --> 02:28:22,280
Speaker 8: West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins, through a lawyer, says

2967
02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:25,400
Speaker 8: he never resigned and wants his job back after last

2968
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:28,720
Speaker 8: months to UIO. West Megan Rapino will retire from pro

2969
02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:31,880
Speaker 8: soccer after this year. US women's soccer plays an exhibition

2970
02:28:31,959 --> 02:28:35,040
Speaker 8: tomorrow in San Jose against Wales before it leaves for

2971
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:38,320
Speaker 8: the Women's World Cup. In men's soccer, the Gold Cup

2972
02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:40,800
Speaker 8: is the championship for our region of the World. Gold

2973
02:28:40,840 --> 02:28:43,960
Speaker 8: Cup Quarterfinals so this weekend on FS one, Mexico won

2974
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:46,800
Speaker 8: its game in Dallas tonight, two nothing over Costa Rica.

2975
02:28:47,080 --> 02:28:50,000
Speaker 8: The US men play Sunday night in a quarterfinal against

2976
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:54,520
Speaker 8: candidates in Cincinnati eight pm Eastern time on FS one Tomorrow.

2977
02:28:54,879 --> 02:28:58,080
Speaker 8: At Wimbledon, Number one Carlos Alcarez won his third round match.

2978
02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:01,160
Speaker 8: Number two Novak Djokovic plays tomorrow. Liv Golf is in

2979
02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:04,680
Speaker 8: London this weekend. Cameron Smith leads by three strokes to

2980
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:07,720
Speaker 8: Major League Baseball. The Detroit Tigers started the day by

2981
02:29:07,800 --> 02:29:11,039
Speaker 8: pitching a combined no hitter at two nothing final over Toronto.

2982
02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:13,960
Speaker 8: Winning pitcher Matt Manning went six and two thirds with

2983
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:16,840
Speaker 8: three walks. Garrett Cole and the Yankees down the Cubs

2984
02:29:16,879 --> 02:29:20,000
Speaker 8: six to three. The Cardinals and Miles Michael has got

2985
02:29:20,040 --> 02:29:22,680
Speaker 8: to win three nothing at the White Sox. Baltimore won

2986
02:29:22,720 --> 02:29:25,040
Speaker 8: its fourth straight game, six to two at Minnesota with

2987
02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:28,400
Speaker 8: six runs in the second inning. The Baltimore Orioles are

2988
02:29:28,480 --> 02:29:31,080
Speaker 8: only two games out in the AL East because Tampa

2989
02:29:31,120 --> 02:29:33,200
Speaker 8: Bay has now lost seven in a row. They're hosting

2990
02:29:33,240 --> 02:29:35,680
Speaker 8: the Braves this weekend, and of course Atlanta won tonight

2991
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:38,720
Speaker 8: six to won the final All Star Spencer Strider the win.

2992
02:29:38,800 --> 02:29:41,560
Speaker 8: He's eleven and two by pitching tonight, He's not going

2993
02:29:41,640 --> 02:29:43,600
Speaker 8: to pitch in the All Star Game Tuesday. In fact,

2994
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:47,640
Speaker 8: today five pitchers were named as replacements for Strider. Milwaukee's

2995
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:50,680
Speaker 8: Corbin Burns will be in the All Star Game. Cincinnati

2996
02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:53,800
Speaker 8: in the NL Central leads the Brewers by two games

2997
02:29:53,840 --> 02:29:56,280
Speaker 8: in the standings after winning at Milwaukee today in a

2998
02:29:56,320 --> 02:29:59,200
Speaker 8: great game on FS one, eight to five. The Red's

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02:29:59,240 --> 02:30:01,320
Speaker 8: Ellie de la Crue, who's had three hits. He's batting

3000
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:03,640
Speaker 8: three twenty eight since the call up and He had

3001
02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:06,640
Speaker 8: three straight stolen bases in the bottom of the seventh

3002
02:30:06,760 --> 02:30:10,360
Speaker 8: on two pitches. While Minnesota lost at home Cleveland one

3003
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:12,560
Speaker 8: at home. The Guardians are alone in first in the

3004
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:16,640
Speaker 8: AL Central half game over the Twins. Cleveland's record forty

3005
02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:20,360
Speaker 8: five and forty four. Miami beat Philadelphia five to three.

3006
02:30:20,480 --> 02:30:22,680
Speaker 8: D h Bryce Harper of the Phills left after being

3007
02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:25,480
Speaker 8: hit by pitch on the elbow. Arizona scored two runs

3008
02:30:25,520 --> 02:30:27,680
Speaker 8: bottom of the tenth to beat Pittsburgh three to two.

3009
02:30:27,840 --> 02:30:30,520
Speaker 8: First place Arizona in the NLS still a game ahead

3010
02:30:30,520 --> 02:30:33,119
Speaker 8: of the Dodgers, who hit five solo homers and beat

3011
02:30:33,160 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 8: the Angels ten to five. The Halos have lost five straight,

3012
02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:38,800
Speaker 8: even though sho Heo Tani hit his thirty second home

3013
02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:41,840
Speaker 8: run of the season that leads the majors Washington and

3014
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 8: Houston with wins. San Diego took the late game three

3015
02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:46,680
Speaker 8: to one over the Mets, ending New York six game

3016
02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:50,119
Speaker 8: winning streak. The Mets offense went three for twenty nine

3017
02:30:50,720 --> 02:30:54,720
Speaker 8: with seventeen strikeouts. Pete Alonzo the Mets the favorite for

3018
02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 8: Monday's home run Derby Again All Star Game in Seattle.

3019
02:30:58,040 --> 02:31:02,320
Speaker 8: Tuesday nights on Fox, Team All Star Game rosters include

3020
02:31:02,560 --> 02:31:06,200
Speaker 8: eight Atlanta Braves, which tides a national league record back

3021
02:31:06,200 --> 02:31:06,480
Speaker 8: a year.

3022
02:31:06,959 --> 02:31:08,840
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Steve Sager to SEG, have a

3023
02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:09,480
Speaker 5: great evening.

3024
02:31:09,600 --> 02:31:12,240
Speaker 2: To Sega will be back tomorrow with Mark Willard and

3025
02:31:12,320 --> 02:31:16,600
Speaker 2: Eco Salam, Arnie Spanier and Chris playing Fox Sports Radio

3026
02:31:16,720 --> 02:31:20,760
Speaker 2: aeron Tourris Jason Martin coming up. We got one segment

3027
02:31:21,160 --> 02:31:24,760
Speaker 2: left and boy, oh boy, do we gotta do so.

3028
02:31:24,760 --> 02:31:27,840
Speaker 2: Do you think Wemby and Britney Spears is interesting? He

3029
02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:31,600
Speaker 2: ain't seen nothing yet. Fox Sports Radio High.

3030
02:31:31,480 --> 02:31:32,560
Speaker 3: Lake kick coming to the plate.

3031
02:31:32,760 --> 02:31:35,560
Speaker 13: He'll steal third base every daya Cruz broll without even

3032
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:36,000
Speaker 13: a throw.

3033
02:31:38,160 --> 02:31:39,720
Speaker 3: Heck, the third baseman, Brian.

3034
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:42,080
Speaker 13: Brian Anderson didn't even go now I was coming home.

3035
02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:46,080
Speaker 13: Henny's safe. They threw the ball back to the pitcher.

3036
02:31:46,400 --> 02:31:48,720
Speaker 13: He fell asleep with the ball in his glut, and

3037
02:31:48,920 --> 02:31:51,600
Speaker 13: day La Cruz took off from third base into home

3038
02:31:51,920 --> 02:31:55,199
Speaker 13: and he steals home while the pitcher tries to unload

3039
02:31:55,280 --> 02:31:57,440
Speaker 13: the ball of the plate, couldn't get it to the

3040
02:31:57,560 --> 02:32:02,560
Speaker 13: catcher in time, and dey La Cruise has simply stolen

3041
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:03,960
Speaker 13: the run all by himself.

3042
02:32:05,240 --> 02:32:09,080
Speaker 2: That call courtesy of Red's Radio Network. And that was

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Speaker 2: Worth noting, by the way, Jason and I did talk

3049
02:32:27,040 --> 02:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Ellie de la Cruz earlier in the show. We talked

3050
02:32:29,840 --> 02:32:34,360
Speaker 2: a lot tonight. Jason talked Otani, we talked the NBA

3051
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:38,160
Speaker 2: New Tournament, We talked when Binyama. If you missed anything,

3052
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:40,440
Speaker 2: make sure to go back and download the podcast. Of course,

3053
02:32:40,520 --> 02:32:43,520
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto just joined us. Earlier in the show. Fox

3054
02:32:43,560 --> 02:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Sports Radio MLB insider Jp Morosi joined us as well.

3055
02:32:48,160 --> 02:32:51,000
Speaker 2: Jason new want to wrap the show. Just spent a

3056
02:32:51,040 --> 02:32:55,920
Speaker 2: little bit of time talking about Britney versus Wemby. But

3057
02:32:56,080 --> 02:33:00,800
Speaker 2: there was another hot new couple in sports Slash that

3058
02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:03,800
Speaker 2: took the world by storm. So July fourth, while I

3059
02:33:03,959 --> 02:33:06,240
Speaker 2: was doing nothing and you were hanging out with your family,

3060
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:10,480
Speaker 2: Michael Rubin hosted that little white party that everybody's talking about.

3061
02:33:10,520 --> 02:33:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a who's who of celebrity. Kevin

3062
02:33:14,240 --> 02:33:17,840
Speaker 2: Hart was there, Joe Burrow was there, Joe l Embiid

3063
02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:20,840
Speaker 2: was there, James Harden was there, on and on. I

3064
02:33:20,920 --> 02:33:24,320
Speaker 2: bring it up because coming out of that White Party,

3065
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:30,000
Speaker 2: there were some whispers of some canoodling between the goat

3066
02:33:30,520 --> 02:33:34,480
Speaker 2: in entertainment, Kim Kardashian, maybe the goat of you know,

3067
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:37,680
Speaker 2: videos that make it leaked on the Internet, and the goat.

3068
02:33:37,480 --> 02:33:38,279
Speaker 5: Of the NFL.

3069
02:33:38,400 --> 02:33:42,240
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. Did you see this story? Brady and Kardashian

3070
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:44,320
Speaker 2: America's new pole couple.

3071
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:44,840
Speaker 5: Did you see this?

3072
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Jason?

3073
02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:45,600
Speaker 5: Did you see?

3074
02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:48,880
Speaker 3: Oh? Actually I didn't. I mean I was out on it.

3075
02:33:49,800 --> 02:33:52,120
Speaker 3: But as you mentioned before, you even got to Brady

3076
02:33:52,160 --> 02:33:54,480
Speaker 3: when you said the goat and you went to Kim Kardashian,

3077
02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:57,760
Speaker 3: I knew where you' That's what's so sad about it.

3078
02:33:57,800 --> 02:34:01,240
Speaker 3: It was like it was easy to get there. Am

3079
02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:04,280
Speaker 3: I supposed to be shocked? I guess, like I would

3080
02:34:04,360 --> 02:34:08,120
Speaker 3: just say, for Tom's sake, Usually the people on the

3081
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:11,520
Speaker 3: other side of the Kim Kardashian relationship that doesn't end

3082
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:15,960
Speaker 3: up being a great thing long term. But this is

3083
02:34:16,000 --> 02:34:19,280
Speaker 3: a guy who, after being married to one of the

3084
02:34:19,320 --> 02:34:22,440
Speaker 3: most beautiful women in the world, and being maybe the

3085
02:34:22,480 --> 02:34:25,640
Speaker 3: greatest football player to ever live, and having you know,

3086
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:30,039
Speaker 3: so many things go his way. Maybe there's that time

3087
02:34:30,160 --> 02:34:32,560
Speaker 3: now to just sew the wild oats. I guess, I

3088
02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:36,960
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, it's just kind of difficult because

3089
02:34:37,400 --> 02:34:39,199
Speaker 3: when it comes to famous people, this kind of stuff

3090
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:43,640
Speaker 3: just happens. And honestly, it's like you heard Bernie mentioned

3091
02:34:43,640 --> 02:34:45,400
Speaker 3: this in the last segment, and he's right. This is

3092
02:34:45,480 --> 02:34:48,760
Speaker 3: basically the royal family, right, like the celebrities and all that,

3093
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:50,560
Speaker 3: and you can get caught up in it, or you

3094
02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:52,840
Speaker 3: can be in real life like what they're doing. That's

3095
02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:56,879
Speaker 3: not reality for ninety nine percent of us. And that's fine.

3096
02:34:56,959 --> 02:34:58,880
Speaker 3: We can look at it, we can hoggle it, we

3097
02:34:58,920 --> 02:35:01,200
Speaker 3: can read tabloids it, or we can move on with

3098
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:04,119
Speaker 3: the rest of our lives. It's not it's just kind

3099
02:35:04,120 --> 02:35:06,200
Speaker 3: of a shrug at the shoulder. He's not married at

3100
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:10,879
Speaker 3: this point in time, and that I hate. I hate

3101
02:35:10,920 --> 02:35:14,120
Speaker 3: seeing any marriage, you know, come to a conclusion and

3102
02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:19,080
Speaker 3: unfortunate for the kids involved and everything that loves Sourd

3103
02:35:19,480 --> 02:35:22,440
Speaker 3: or that whatever happened there happened there. But I just

3104
02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:26,040
Speaker 3: this this one, just this one gets a shoulder shrug

3105
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:28,600
Speaker 3: for me because this is just kind of the way

3106
02:35:28,760 --> 02:35:31,360
Speaker 3: things work in that level of society.

3107
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:33,560
Speaker 2: By the way, I should mention a rep for I

3108
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:36,800
Speaker 2: believe it was tom Brady said they're just friends and

3109
02:35:36,879 --> 02:35:39,560
Speaker 2: nothing more, which the reps always say really quickly. I

3110
02:35:39,640 --> 02:35:43,200
Speaker 2: had this argument or conversation with Jason Smith the other night.

3111
02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:48,120
Speaker 2: His argument was tom Brady's now officially retired and now

3112
02:35:48,160 --> 02:35:50,920
Speaker 2: it's time for him to quote unquote win the divorce,

3113
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:55,360
Speaker 2: and the argument being Giselle. First thing, you know, they

3114
02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:57,879
Speaker 2: get divorced, she's going out with the girl, she's hanging

3115
02:35:57,920 --> 02:36:02,080
Speaker 2: out at Carnival, she's alleged dating the jiu jitsu instructor whatever.

3116
02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:06,080
Speaker 5: My argument is, did she really win the divorce?

3117
02:36:06,200 --> 02:36:08,640
Speaker 2: Like like like, this is supposedly the most beautiful woman

3118
02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:10,280
Speaker 2: in the world, and she's beautiful. I'm not trying to

3119
02:36:10,280 --> 02:36:13,959
Speaker 2: discredit her looks, but like, you know, one hundred millionaire,

3120
02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:16,920
Speaker 2: more money than God, and all I've been told is,

3121
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:19,400
Speaker 2: you know, she's a guy, has forever and then she

3122
02:36:19,480 --> 02:36:22,160
Speaker 2: gets caught canoodling with the jiu jitsu instructor, like like

3123
02:36:22,440 --> 02:36:24,480
Speaker 2: she waited all this time to get rid of Tom

3124
02:36:24,560 --> 02:36:26,960
Speaker 2: Brady just to hang out with the jiu jitsu instructor.

3125
02:36:27,040 --> 02:36:29,520
Speaker 2: Like like like Jason was like, oh, you know, you

3126
02:36:29,600 --> 02:36:32,440
Speaker 2: know Gazelle won the It was almost like Brady and Belichick, right,

3127
02:36:33,440 --> 02:36:35,920
Speaker 2: Gazelle wonted early. But what about the next phase? Is

3128
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:38,800
Speaker 2: Tom Brady coming in uh to get the win? And

3129
02:36:38,879 --> 02:36:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't really know that she wanted to

3130
02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:43,680
Speaker 2: begin with, Like, you know, beautiful woman hundreds of millions

3131
02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:45,360
Speaker 2: of dollars ends up with the jiu jitsu instructor.

3132
02:36:45,360 --> 02:36:46,280
Speaker 5: I don't know I feel about that.

3133
02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:51,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I think you both lose and

3134
02:36:52,560 --> 02:36:55,600
Speaker 3: past that, Like if you both then go on and

3135
02:36:55,680 --> 02:36:58,080
Speaker 3: you find some version of happiness or whatever like that,

3136
02:36:58,200 --> 02:37:00,120
Speaker 3: if you find the love that you didn't have have

3137
02:37:01,040 --> 02:37:03,720
Speaker 3: you know whatever, it is, Like, it's not it's not

3138
02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:07,400
Speaker 3: my universe. But she won if that's who she's supposed

3139
02:37:07,440 --> 02:37:09,760
Speaker 3: to end up with, and she's gonna be happy with

3140
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:12,280
Speaker 3: that individual for the rest of her life or whatever

3141
02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:16,280
Speaker 3: like that, they both won in life in terms of

3142
02:37:17,280 --> 02:37:21,680
Speaker 3: the way the world values and defines success. I don't

3143
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:24,480
Speaker 3: know what that means for lasting contentment and happiness or whatever.

3144
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:27,320
Speaker 3: But does Tom need to win the divorce? No, I

3145
02:37:27,400 --> 02:37:30,360
Speaker 3: mean he's moving on with his life, she's moving on

3146
02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:36,279
Speaker 3: with hers. They're not moving along together. I can understand

3147
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:39,160
Speaker 3: kind of what Jason Smith's saying, But at the same time,

3148
02:37:40,040 --> 02:37:43,440
Speaker 3: it's just kind of it just feels like both of

3149
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:44,960
Speaker 3: them are gonna go on and they're gonna do their

3150
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:47,160
Speaker 3: own thing. And I don't know that you're if you're

3151
02:37:47,160 --> 02:37:48,840
Speaker 3: Tom Brady and Just Sell, I don't know if you're

3152
02:37:48,920 --> 02:37:52,040
Speaker 3: actually checking Facebook or the version of Facebook that you

3153
02:37:52,120 --> 02:37:55,000
Speaker 3: would be on to see, you know, the photos and

3154
02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:57,040
Speaker 3: be jealous and envious and all this. Like if this

3155
02:37:57,160 --> 02:37:59,720
Speaker 3: thing was mutually agreed to after a long period of

3156
02:37:59,800 --> 02:38:02,160
Speaker 3: time and they had grown a part over years and

3157
02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:04,840
Speaker 3: years and years, at this point, maybe you just wish

3158
02:38:04,920 --> 02:38:06,920
Speaker 3: each other well and you're not really concerned about it.

3159
02:38:06,959 --> 02:38:07,280
Speaker 9: I don't know.

3160
02:38:07,360 --> 02:38:10,280
Speaker 3: Maybe that's ni Maybe everybody is jealous and there's envy

3161
02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:11,680
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, and you feel like

3162
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:13,560
Speaker 3: you gotta win. But to me, it just feels like

3163
02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:15,280
Speaker 3: both of them have moved on and both of them

3164
02:38:15,320 --> 02:38:18,600
Speaker 3: have had plenty of worldly success, and I don't know

3165
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:20,480
Speaker 3: that there is a winner in this.

3166
02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:24,440
Speaker 2: Less than a minute left, ten seconds? Is Damian Liller

3167
02:38:24,520 --> 02:38:27,680
Speaker 2: traded by the time we're on air next week? No, okay,

3168
02:38:27,959 --> 02:38:29,880
Speaker 2: James Harden, is he traded by time we're on air

3169
02:38:29,959 --> 02:38:34,880
Speaker 2: next week? No, we didn't have time for this segment.

3170
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a market for James Harden. I

3171
02:38:37,879 --> 02:38:39,760
Speaker 2: think all the Clippers are gonna get him. It's like

3172
02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:42,840
Speaker 2: the Clipper like they just signed re signed Russell Westbrook.

3173
02:38:42,959 --> 02:38:45,960
Speaker 2: He's just he's a slightly better version of Russell Westbrook.

3174
02:38:45,959 --> 02:38:48,400
Speaker 2: At this point, they don't really need him. I'll be

3175
02:38:48,440 --> 02:38:50,240
Speaker 2: curious to see what happens with James Harden. But with

3176
02:38:50,320 --> 02:38:51,480
Speaker 2: that said, we do have to get out of here.

3177
02:38:51,520 --> 02:38:53,360
Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew. Chris Prefett on the board,

3178
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:56,800
Speaker 2: producer Pat Steve de Sager on the updates. If you

3179
02:38:56,879 --> 02:38:58,480
Speaker 2: missed any of the show, make sure to go back

3180
02:38:58,520 --> 02:39:02,320
Speaker 2: and download the podcast. Bernie Fratto and John JP Morosi

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Speaker 2: joined us, speaking of Bernie Fraddo.

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Speaker 5: Coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddo of The Bernie Fraddo Show, He's out in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna have all sorts of good stuff on Summer

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Speaker 2: League Otani. Busy weekend in sports, Bernie Fratto has you covered.

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Speaker 5: That's next Fox Sports.

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Speaker 9: Triny