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Speaker 1: Welcome to the e A Podcast. Rik Gallen here joined

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Speaker 1: by Bucky Brooks, who's an NFL media analyst. You can

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Speaker 1: file Bucky on Twitter at Bucky Brooks and he's also

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Speaker 1: the host Moved the Sticks podcasts along with Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: That's available on NFL dot Com, NFL now, iTunes, and YouTube. Bucky,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. The first thing I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you is if I would have told

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Speaker 1: and five with two games remaining, what would you have

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Speaker 1: told me. I don't think that would be a pretty

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Speaker 1: fair estimate or evaluation based on the talent that you

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Speaker 1: had um On the Jet defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: I think you definitely could see them making a playoff run,

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Speaker 1: but the defensively the way I think the biggest surprise

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Speaker 1: is how well the offense is played of late, with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Paspatrick playing quarterback and Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker

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Speaker 1: emerging as one of the job Why receiver deals in

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Speaker 1: the LEAs you played receiver in this league. Why do

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Speaker 1: Marshall and Decker work so well together as a tannem

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Speaker 1: They're nice compliments to one another um. I think when

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Speaker 1: you're building a wide receiver corps, you want to have

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Speaker 1: different pieces of the puzzle, but it all comes together

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Speaker 1: to make a perfect picture. And when I look at

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Speaker 1: the Jets, particularly Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker, those guys

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Speaker 1: are placed in roles that are very comfortable to their

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Speaker 1: skill sets. And Brandon Marshall, you have a classic number

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Speaker 1: one receiver, a guy that can deal with double teams.

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Speaker 1: He's effective as a big body playmaker down the boundary,

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Speaker 1: but also has the ability to be a factor in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. Doesn't mind doing the dirty work working inside.

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Speaker 1: So he is a nice number one receiver. And Eric Decker,

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Speaker 1: you're finally getting him back in the number two role,

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Speaker 1: the complimentary player on the back side of a dominant

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Speaker 1: number one, a guy who was effected working between the hashes.

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Speaker 1: But it's also a special talent down in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: And so when you have two big buddy guys, because

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Speaker 1: remember both of these guys are over six three, they

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Speaker 1: are weapons in the red zone and it really makes

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Speaker 1: And I think because Ryan Fitzpatrick doesn't necessarily field that

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Speaker 1: effective because they can be balanced, They can pick and

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Speaker 1: the situation. The Jets have definitely excelled in the red

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Speaker 1: zone throughout the entire two thousand and fifteen season. How

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Speaker 1: impressed have you been by Fitzpatrick the way he's gotten

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Speaker 1: acclimated to his weapons so quickly because he did get

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Speaker 1: traded here in March is eleven, season six NFL team

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Speaker 1: and Bucky he's got twenty six touchdown passes and he's

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Speaker 1: only four shy of setting the franchise record here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a testament that not only Fitzpatrick being

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Speaker 1: a testament to change gay league and what he's been

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Speaker 1: able to do with that offense. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: when you have acquisition, being the draft or free agency,

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Speaker 1: of his hands quickly and the target the ideal matchup

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Speaker 1: they're living in that uh tim personnel package, one back, pour,

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Speaker 1: off to chan Gaily for record as a very early

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Speaker 1: in the year that Dad is Fitzpatrick's comfort zone and

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Speaker 1: allowing him to play in his tweet spot. Throughout the season,

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Speaker 1: his fence got better in the pocket. You think none

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Speaker 1: you've seen him throughout his career. The book on him

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Speaker 1: always was that he gets the ball out quickly. But

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Speaker 1: what I've noticed overwatch him these fourteen games is that

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Speaker 1: throwing to Quincy and Nona when the Jets converted on

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Speaker 1: He understands whether the lanes are He also understands why

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Speaker 1: So I think what you're getting is an offensive play caller,

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Speaker 1: a play designer that understands exactly what his quarterback comfortable joint,

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Speaker 1: and he puts them in a situation that accentuates his

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Speaker 1: quickly from the pocket. What do you think these wins

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Speaker 1: that do for a team's confidence? Coming back late in games?

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Speaker 1: Whenever you can win a game where you haven't played

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Speaker 1: has preached that, uh countless times throughout the off season

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Speaker 1: way to win. There's no such thing as an ugly win.

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Speaker 1: Even though things haven't gone according to plan the last

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Speaker 1: And ultimately, you want to put enough wins and the

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. That's what they've done. They'll need a

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Speaker 1: better effort to close out to finish the way that

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Speaker 1: won games as opposed when you lost Bucky. What stands

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Speaker 1: especially on third down, because they continue to come up

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Speaker 1: with different looks and you're speaking about Todd Balls and

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Speaker 1: week and they're throng quarterbacks, different different things on third

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Speaker 1: third down is one of the biggest situations that defense

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Speaker 1: David Snacks Harrison playing the nose tackle He continually has

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Speaker 1: And even though that mcfannon got free for over a

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Speaker 1: that when you build your defense, you want to build

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Speaker 1: run defense. Look, Todd Bowles is emphasizing stop the run

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Speaker 1: But what's the blueprint for the Jets this weekend as

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Speaker 1: Eric Decker has to wear the big sombrero this week.

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Speaker 1: He has to be the guy that wins the matchup

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Speaker 1: How do you think this is gonna play out over

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Speaker 1: against the New England Patriots. Bucky Brooks tremendous analysis will

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