WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Could Witten Hang It Up?

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<v Speaker 1>This. He's talking Cowboys screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Sat. Here are

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola, Ryan brought us, Rob Phillips and Taylor Stern.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage studio. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>first Tuesday after the twenty eighteen NFL Draft, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course these guys are still grinding away getting ready. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey joked, you can't see it in our studio, but

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<v Speaker 1>there is a chair, a lazy boy type chair, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's where you guys would like to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>if you could. We're still recovering, are you. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>With all the new cameras we have, we might have

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<v Speaker 1>an angle of that chair. You might. Yeah, we should

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<v Speaker 1>get a sleepcam. A sleepcam brought us just running on fumes.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you doing good? No, I'm good. I'm ready to roll.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working on these undrafted kids. So some of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys should have been drafted. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is, but I'm glad the Cowboys got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of them. We'll jump right into it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we have the nine NFL draft picks, but

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<v Speaker 1>of course, now there are eighteen undrafted free agents that

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<v Speaker 1>will be here on the team at least you know

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<v Speaker 1>for now. That's always kind of an up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're mentioning some of the names. Which ones stick

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<v Speaker 1>out to you right now? I think if I the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that I've looked at so far here and we've posted,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the next set of four go up on

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot com. Cam Kelly, the cornerback out of

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego State, was very impressive to me. Trevarious Ward,

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<v Speaker 1>the cornerback out of Middle Tennessee. I think Ward. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Ward's got a shot to make this team. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why. As a quick footed kid and he's

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<v Speaker 1>stays in position, he tackles well. Cam Kelly, like I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about him earlier, I was I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that he might be a free safety in this

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<v Speaker 1>in this scheme. The way he plays, so he's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of not as quick guy, but he's got

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<v Speaker 1>some link to him. He's a physical guy, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on him as a potential guy that

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<v Speaker 1>they move. During training camp, I watched David Wells from

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end from San Diego State. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>in line blocker really more than he is an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>or a downfield player. So I kind of understand that

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<v Speaker 1>de Quentin Osborne from Olahoma State is a short guy

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<v Speaker 1>that plays as a one technique. You could also use

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<v Speaker 1>him as a three. I like the way he plays

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<v Speaker 1>up the field. I didn't see him at all because

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<v Speaker 1>again I was looking at short guys, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see notice him as a short guy. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>liked the way he attacks the gap. And then this

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Quero from Northwestern is a guy that I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a little bit. He is a guy, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger guy in the six two two fifteen range.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that probably will project from a safety

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<v Speaker 1>to a linebacker spot. So keep an eye on that

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<v Speaker 1>one right there. I think that they're gonna move him,

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<v Speaker 1>but you watch him down around the line of scrimmage, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really a good player, and when you play him deep,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a little bit more of a trouble there. Tyree

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson was another He's a free safety from Oregon that's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a true free safety than he is a

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<v Speaker 1>strong So maybe what they're gonna do is gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>Quero put him as a linebacker and then put Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>as a true free safety and maybe do some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with Cam Kelly as well. So those are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what I got through so far. But Wards should have

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<v Speaker 1>been drafted. Cam Kelly should have been drafted too well.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a guy, Mickey, that you spoke very

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<v Speaker 1>very highly of throughout the season and throughout training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Lewis Neal. He was an undrafted guy last year

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<v Speaker 1>and he's found his way to maintain on the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't necessarily mean you can't make the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, they're different. Yeah, playing him at fullback,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to fullback. He's gonna move to fullback. So

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<v Speaker 1>they like to do that so well, they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find if the guy's pretty just got talented. They did

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<v Speaker 1>it with Keith Smith, you know, if if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep, Yeah, if you want to keep, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want you'd find spots for guys. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them around, you'll say, okay, what about trying them here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you something. Jamie Showers, Mickey and I

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<v Speaker 1>did the show last night up at the Club and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys Club, and we were talking about the safeties.

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<v Speaker 1>The question came up. They they think that Jamie Showers

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<v Speaker 1>and people are like, well, why do they do anything

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<v Speaker 1>it's safety. Well, they brought a couple of guys in

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<v Speaker 1>that potentially can compete. But they really talking to some

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<v Speaker 1>guys this morning, they believe Jamille Showers, after a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years of working on the practice squad and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>has a chance to come in, step in and help.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if he does or not, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>like the possibility of what he could bring, So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens here in training camp. Well, safety's one,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see the list of Goose linebackers. In that list,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say safety, linebacker, and defensive tackle, or three spots

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<v Speaker 1>where a rookie free agent has a shot in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of numbers to get on this roster, especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at linebackers and safety is a guy that could

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<v Speaker 1>play special teams might be able to crack it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about Barry Church, guys like that who were able

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<v Speaker 1>to make the team with a special team's role. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Heath another dude. So those are three positions I

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<v Speaker 1>look at and say, Okay, if you play that spot,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have a shot to make the fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>with a good camp. What about Marchie. I love that name.

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<v Speaker 1>He should make it because Marchi Marchie Murdoch. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. And you know, if you're looking at guys

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Beasley, probably a little a little crowded there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little crowded Marchie Murdoch. It's funny though, you know

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<v Speaker 1>everyone called this Mountain West Draft for the Cowboys. Not

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to that. Got to give a shout out to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at the undrafted guys, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them come from Iowa State. You talked about two

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<v Speaker 1>big guys from San Diego State. So sometimes it helps

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<v Speaker 1>when you have scouts at certain schools. Well at Middle Tennessee. Again, Ward,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep an eye on him. There's something about him

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<v Speaker 1>to his game that I really really like. When you

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<v Speaker 1>watched him play in that uh the Conference USA stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is, he can cover, he's the movement

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<v Speaker 1>is really good for this kid. I again, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to find out what the issues were were, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything on tape. It would lead me to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that this kid can't play well moving forward. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the draft ended on Saturday and the guys will be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we have exact dates, but is

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<v Speaker 1>it Thursday or Friday? They heard get in on Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>and then the mini camps the following week, So next

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<v Speaker 1>week Friday Saturday. Yeah, yeah, they'll do that. So getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to there. But now we're starting to look around

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<v Speaker 1>the league and a lot of people were tweeting and

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning it. Yesterday. Some former Cowboys were cut after the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Terroll McClaine was a big name people were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, and then JJ Wilcox safety again was cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any ever any interest? I know you guys

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<v Speaker 1>did a mailback on that. Yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's interest in the defensive tackle. I do McClain. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a position that they need to kind of address.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you look at it, we we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the draft really didn't bring that to Fruition

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. There were guys on the board. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like that they could have gone, but they went

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<v Speaker 1>a different direction. And that's okay for them, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they they look at this the undrafted guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>they really wasn't name help. I felt like though that

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<v Speaker 1>McClain played well enough. Uh you know with the combination.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at him and what he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do with MALIEK. Collins, that was a pretty good one. Too.

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<v Speaker 1>Little punch in side right there. So I was told

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<v Speaker 1>that they will explore that opportunity. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>JJ Wilcox though, unless Mickey's got something different from me,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine there that ship is sailed. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>McClain McClean isn't explore and Wilcox is. Mickey said it's

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<v Speaker 1>on its way to another port. Yeah, yea or Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Rob might have looked into that too. You going to

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<v Speaker 1>that one too? Yeah? Maybe? What do you think? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's a cover guy that they're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you look at the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>have been available in free agency that they didn't go after,

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<v Speaker 1>scheme fit. They want a guy back there who can

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<v Speaker 1>play true free and that's not that's not JJ's forte. So.

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<v Speaker 1>But Clain's interesting though. I think it comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>money though. You know, one year, one point he made

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<v Speaker 1>seven point five million dollars you know what way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's she didn't pay him that much. His contract came

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<v Speaker 1>to really a one year deal seven point five million dollars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll do that. They'll they'll take a guy from the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and pay him way more than the Cowboys or

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<v Speaker 1>we're willing to. Yeah, they really liked him when he

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<v Speaker 1>was here. I don't know if the three to four

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington was a fit for him. So um, but again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna come down to money. Look, they just traded

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<v Speaker 1>for a guy they like, johad Ward, a young defensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>So did we'll tell you they we're gonna play him

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive tackle? Did he tell me that? Yeah, since

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<v Speaker 1>you're on this bit of telling me information, did anybody

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<v Speaker 1>tell you where they're gonna play him? No? I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that during the draft press conference they got

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<v Speaker 1>play Hm at defensive defensive tackle. Okay, I know they

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was out of position as an end of

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<v Speaker 1>three to four end yeah, well three to four end, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as a really a linebacker five technique guys. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean some of his production was

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<v Speaker 1>inside playing as a defensive tackle, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to it sounded like he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to tackle, Okay, I mean, he's what six four,

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<v Speaker 1>two ninety five. They yeah, he was, he's gotten bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that. I don't think he's an end. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll go inside, and I think they look at him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he might be a David Irving starting kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew. I knew that Will really liked him coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of college. I knew that was something that when

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<v Speaker 1>when they mentioned the name, When when the Raiders called

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<v Speaker 1>and asked for be asked for Switzer and the name

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<v Speaker 1>they brought up, and that's what made the trade really

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<v Speaker 1>easy for them. Absolutely. Yeah, Well we're talking about other

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<v Speaker 1>traded guys, and of course we have the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>being here at the Star and for us going seeing yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>Tavon Austin was already out here getting involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>workouts yesterday. Are you guys excited about this? I know

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of fast moving and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things will shake out before the team even hits

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<v Speaker 1>the field for the season, But Tavon Austin, a Dallas Cowboy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it shows a maybe a philosophy shift,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least an idea of some new wrinkles that

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<v Speaker 1>they might put into this offense. I think with we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Dak friendly, and I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who can be in the short passing game, run

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<v Speaker 1>after catch and kind of take advantage of what Dak

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<v Speaker 1>does well instead of worrying so much about a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean, he's got deep speed, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that part of his game can add something

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<v Speaker 1>different to what they're trying to do offensively. And Deante

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson's kind of that guy as well. They're they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to Jerry talked about this at the combine. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to find different ways to attack defenses and maybe take

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<v Speaker 1>things from the college game, and I think Austin can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of help in that way. But they also envisioned

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<v Speaker 1>him like Lance Dunbar was here, or he might get

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<v Speaker 1>some carries this you know, everybody viewed him as a receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is a guy who had He has almost

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred career carries, So I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways they can use him. I do wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how many times you can give him the ball per game, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know this is this is still Zeke's

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<v Speaker 1>offense when it comes right down to it. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>web back. Come on, web web You have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>have you heard of that phrase? Never neither, And I've

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<v Speaker 1>been here since ninety two doing stuff, but even used

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<v Speaker 1>it like but Brian and I have we we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out. It means just when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the spider web, it just you have the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stretch around. He'd better figure out how not

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<v Speaker 1>to fumble, or he's not going to be here those

0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.160
<v Speaker 1>balls that yell at you, right, yeah, if he if

0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.240
<v Speaker 1>he's screeching one, if he if he puts the ball

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground a bunch, and that he has a

0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.280
<v Speaker 1>history of doing that, it's no guarantee he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make this football team. But he's in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>he better figure out how not to fumble. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the reasons Lucky Whiteheads off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucky Whitehead's situation too, putting the ball in the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>That made people very comfortable around here. I think Luck

0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he had some other problems too, As I said, off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, if you if you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't secure the ball and whatever they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and you're right about him, and you watch

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<v Speaker 1>him the West Virginia tape, this was an incredible player.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I say, throwing the Texas game, you draft him

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<v Speaker 1>right where he was drafted because the players he made

0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.360
<v Speaker 1>put him in the backfield, hand it to him, throw

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<v Speaker 1>it to him, swing it to him, you know all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But he's he's had he's had some fumble

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<v Speaker 1>issues and that's something that you know, the minute that

0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.360
<v Speaker 1>starts to happen, he will get people to turn on

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit. We spoke to him Saturday after

0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.320
<v Speaker 1>he got traded, and he blamed a lot of last

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<v Speaker 1>year on injuries. You know, he said he had a

0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.480
<v Speaker 1>wrist injury that required surgery, he had hamstring early in camp,

0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and maybe the Rams didn't quite know how to use him.

0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe fumbles were a factor, but he was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a non factor for them last year. That worries me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Sean McVay is understanding. Sean say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not his type of receiver, but you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>he did with Jamison Crowder at Washington, A smaller guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a quicker guy, a slot guy, kind of got him

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<v Speaker 1>really involved. And the fact that they didn't get Austin involved,

0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the Rams even extended him, they gave him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more money and so that to me in itself,

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<v Speaker 1>But they never could figure out ways to really get

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<v Speaker 1>him going, and I hope the Cowboys come up with

0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.240
<v Speaker 1>some creative ways to make that way. I felt like

0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.559
<v Speaker 1>they never could get ways with Sammy Watkins. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go with their team, I mean it was just

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley year. Yeah, it's a free look. I mean

0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.800
<v Speaker 1>he sure got a million dollars based salary and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>kick in until the team, so it's a free look.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way they talked about him in the press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, I'm like, they've got a role for this guy,

0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.400
<v Speaker 1>but you they do. I mean he's the toy running back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe the kick returner as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to overcome a lot of history, and I

0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.720
<v Speaker 1>mean history in a way of things happened to him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you draft a player, why was he not the player

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<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't? And he and you could talk about

0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.679
<v Speaker 1>injury and stuff like that, and you know you wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you wonder why. And again, I think Sean

0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.960
<v Speaker 1>McVay is a very creative coach, and that would worry

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit. I bring him in. I'm with Mickey,

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<v Speaker 1>free look I'm all for that, But you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find creative ways to use him. I think that's something

0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that we need to find. I think you'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>out very early. You know how he's involved. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>is he going to be the jet sweep guy? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to be a screen guy? Is he just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a kickoff punt return guy. Go back

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty fourteen, how the Cowboys used Dunbar. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what they wanted to do. They worked out before

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. Yeah, so they were thinking the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were looking at those those type of running

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<v Speaker 1>backs in the draft. They just kind of went before

0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.280
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to take one, right, So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the role you see them, you know, a change up

0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.600
<v Speaker 1>running back that comes in and and what is he? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let the defense figure it out. Now, he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>produce when they go to him. That's that's my that's

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<v Speaker 1>my I mean, I still see Dunbar catch and that

0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.480
<v Speaker 1>forty yard pat was it against New Orleans before he

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt downfield? You were that you were on you

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<v Speaker 1>liked the idea of Dunbar returning. Yeah, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been fine with that if they couldn't find anything else. Now,

0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy is probably a little faster, um, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little more versatile, maybe a little bit more explosives. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as a receiver. Yeah, And injuries have been a problem

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<v Speaker 1>for Lance. Yeah. I mean every every year. Just look

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<v Speaker 1>at the calendar and say, okay, what day is it. Yeah,

0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that happened to him last year. A great guy, great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Cowboys were looking at maybe had some

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<v Speaker 1>interest in maybe bringing him back in that role. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I wonder if they were looking at somebody

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<v Speaker 1>early on Day three, like Tavon's a few years older

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<v Speaker 1>than these rookies coming in, and they didn't find that guy,

0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and so hey, this this trade was on the table,

0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't sound like it. It sound like the guy they

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<v Speaker 1>were really hunting was the receiver fell in their lap.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then Armstrong, the defensive end. That's who

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<v Speaker 1>they want. Yeah, they weren't trying to trade back in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft for anybody else. They mean, I've thought when

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the draft, we were talking about it. We

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were going back for more the free safety

0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.000
<v Speaker 1>from Southern miss And nah, they were going back in

0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Awe for Arms. They were worried about him making it

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<v Speaker 1>too when he was picked there and that's so, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought about him at eighty one. Yeah, and well,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different things happened the Seahawks. They were gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you think about the draft, some things

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned and I don't know, say if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into him or not. We have time to visit

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. You're gonna take a break. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? I think we can visit about this

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<v Speaker 1>second round at fifty they were talking about seats. Earl Thomas, Yeah,

0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean Earl Seattle called and said, hey, listen, you interested,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the Connor Williams was on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, no, we're not. We're gonna you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Dallas in the third at eighty one called back.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, there was a there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on in that second and third round when it

0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.920
<v Speaker 1>came to backs. But it seemed like to me in

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<v Speaker 1>the third that just talking to some folks that Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>was that guy, so should have told him call me

0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.840
<v Speaker 1>back on Saturday. How would that make you feel if

0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you were Earl Thomas knowing like okay, they would have chased,

0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, done this deal. Then they didn't really want me. Well,

0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that's just that just shows you how much they thought

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<v Speaker 1>of Connor Williams. Evidently Rob Phillips column love that pick

0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.840
<v Speaker 1>or the need for that guy. Yeah, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Chaz is good. Um, but Chad's not going to play

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<v Speaker 1>inside at guard. I don't think he was a guard.

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<v Speaker 1>And all you had at this point is Marcus Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we were all in agreement. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to move Leo Collins to guard, so you you know,

0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you filled a hole. Yeah, he did, and he started

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<v Speaker 1>working already. I saw a picture of him running the

0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.760
<v Speaker 1>hills at Cupelle High School concert on Sunday. Where did

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<v Speaker 1>you see that? Mickey? Where did I see it? It's

0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.840
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter on social media, you know. I I got

0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.359
<v Speaker 1>it off the phone of his uncle who showed me

0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the picture. And then if you needed to know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do family, Yeah, I know, and I jabbed back,

0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't I got me all right? So much what he

0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just said I think I think, Um, it puts the

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<v Speaker 1>balance back in this offensive line to where now you've

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<v Speaker 1>invested this much in Lyle Collins at tackle, keep him there.

0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.360
<v Speaker 1>They think this guy ideally, it's kind of like Zack

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<v Speaker 1>Martin coming out of school. Arm reach wise, he's not

0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.320
<v Speaker 1>he's probably not an ideal tackle, but put him at guard.

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<v Speaker 1>He's physical, he's nasty, he's athletic. He fits in And

0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:29.920
<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, they're deep again. They're deep,

0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're talented and they're athletic. And when this offensive

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.360
<v Speaker 1>line is all those things, this team's usually pretty good,

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.879
<v Speaker 1>especially when you've got an elite back and you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>banking on Zeke for sixteen games. This shoot, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the move that gets the Cowboys competitive again

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<v Speaker 1>in the division, like we're talking maybe when in the division.

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe that if the defense can stay solid,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is this is a playoff team again.

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<v Speaker 1>It really But there's another element to that. Now they

0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.520
<v Speaker 1>have a backup swing tackle. That's what I said. They

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<v Speaker 1>got options Now Fleming can play that swing tackle spot.

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<v Speaker 1>But so Williams. I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The guard cost him last year. Not having somebody behind

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<v Speaker 1>Tyron Smith cost him last year. Yeah, you could kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get by. It didn't cost them. But you guys

0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted an upgrade from Jonathan Cooper, didn't you. Well yeah, yeah,

0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think you looked at those two spots

0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and said, ah, they're not where they need to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a disaster when Tyron got hurt. A disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we're open. That's fixed. There's a trickle down

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.960
<v Speaker 1>effect because now you don't have to move Lale Collins

0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and and so you leave him there because if you

0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.440
<v Speaker 1>moved Lale Collins inside and Cameron Cameron Fleming was your

0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.200
<v Speaker 1>starting right tackle, then okay, who's your backup swing tackle? Yeah,

0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you still and have that good points. Good points. When

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<v Speaker 1>micro what anti microbiole microbiol Yeah, so like microfiber. Why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't they just call it that I didn't do well

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.200
<v Speaker 1>in science. Yeam neither either journalism. Lucky to be here,

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 1>lucky to be all are all right? Well? Gold jacket Witt,

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>who undeniably will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Of course, there's still speculations about his decision that people

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>are assuming will be announced in the next few days

0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 1>regarding his retirement, what his next step will be. Now

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 1>there's news of maybe a different network coming into play,

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 1>and you know, other people talking about what it means

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>his contract in the financial standoff it might impose with

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the team. But what have you guys heard? What is

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.199
<v Speaker 1>the latest and what's the update you have for the

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Jason Witten retirement? Mick, Yeah, go ahead say the break. Yeah,

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>we're waiting, just like everybody else's waiting. We are. I

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know that there's an update, you know. He My

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>understanding as of yesterday was he was still contemplating that

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't made a decision yet and he can't seem

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to decide if he wants to take the deal that

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>probably he shouldn't refuse or play another year. And I

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting listening to Emmett Smith talk about

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it this morning, and he was pointing out that, you

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times what players do is they

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>want to hang on that one more chance to go

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to the Super Bowl. And sometimes you know, you think, okay,

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>this maybe this next year, and it's like ten years later,

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you still didn't go. And and uh so that's part

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 1>of the reason why guys don't want to retire if

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they're healthy. And he's fortunate he is healthy. U. So

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 1>that's a great appointment because more shot, you know, I

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 1>think both you and Rob were there last week when

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 1>he was honoring those men that were part of his

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Score Foundation with the J. C. Penny and Michael Strahan partnership,

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of opened it up and he's talking about,

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, Michael Strahan and he said he said it

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 1>with you know, kind of sarcasm, but he goes, you know,

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that guy won two Super Bowls with the Giants while

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>I was down here not happy about that. And I

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's something that that stings when you talk

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>about his career because he is such a such a

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>great and it's unfortunate that at this current time he's

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.360
<v Speaker 1>not able to put Super Bowl winner next to his name.

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you pass up an opportunity broadcast

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>on money night football. I don't, especially for amount of

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 1>money supposedly. I don't worry about the money. It's it's

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the most iconic positions. It's if you look

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 1>at the if the history of television, Monday Night Football

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>is just as just as popular as any series Dallas,

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>any any any series one. I almost said the Simpsons.

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 1>It's been around twenty nine years. But you think about

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>iconic television programs and the list of guys that are

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>broadcasted for that is very, very few. And I you know,

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Witton's had a hell of a career. We can all

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you call him gold jacket wit, but I feel like

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>you cannot pass an opportunity up like that. I really

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>really don't. What if it does College Game Day, I

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>don't call it, okay, you know, if he does the

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>SEC is a college guy like Man of the Year, Okay,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>if it came down to college, if it came down

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>to the CBS version of the SEC Game of the Week,

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>which he's a Tennessee guy, which would be perfect for him,

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, with him and Brad Nessler doing that kind

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I kind of feel like, though, that that

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>that that would be a harder decision to do. But

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about Monday night football, it's gone down,

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it has not had the ratings. Yeah, well, how about

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the league would help them with some games used to

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>be Monday night football. It used to be yeah when

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I was growing up, as there was no Sunday Night. Yeah,

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>that's the whole idea. Sunday Night gets incredible games. Sunday

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Night you used to be like kind of the AFC

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>East pre Brady game where they just are West when

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of give you two kind of average teams. Yeah,

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and now yeah, Sunday Night in some ways has become

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the new Monday Night. Yeah, but if you told me that,

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>if you said, hey, listen, you can go do the

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Thursday night game, or oh okay, maybe it's a little

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 1>bit tougher decision. It's still you're right. It is still

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>really but his wheelhouse is the NFL. He knows the league,

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>He's seen these teams, he's seen the players. It would

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>be a lot easier to do Monday night football then

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>go back to college. I think that I think that

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the Jason Witton, to me, I never would believe have

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>lieved that he was going to be a broadcaster. I

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>always believed him to be a college football coach or

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a coach. I think his enthusiasm, his passion for the

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>game translates better into college football. I think his broadcasting

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>if he did college would translate. They would he would

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>he would get into it. Now, not to say he's

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>not going to get into the NFL stuff, but he

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the way that he the passion that he has for

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the game, to me is more of a college atmosphere

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of a thing then the NFL, which is more

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of a business reminded. So that's part of his decision.

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Would he wants a coach more than he wants a

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>now you know what, if he wants to coach, yeah,

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I think if he would been out of the game

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>for two years and had a chance to coach somewhere,

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>he would have had a shot at the Tennessee job

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>at University of Tennessee. I think he really would have.

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I think full former would have interviewed him as a possibility.

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I've always believed that he was going to be a coach.

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I just from the from the minute minute anything. Yeah,

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>he coaches his kids and life lessons every day. You

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>watch how he interacts with people, those kids on the

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Cowboy you thing. You know, the intensity that he shows,

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>of the passion he shows for that, and I know

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>it's but it's kids. That's why I think the college

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>game to him, if he was a college coach, it

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>would make perfect sense. Coaching in his blood. I mean

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I spoke to his brother Sean for a while last

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>year for a story I did on him and his

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>brother's a coach. His brother's coaching at their old high

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>school where their grandfather coach for like thirty years. I mean, yeah,

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I've always thought that would and maybe eventually

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>will still be the path. I don't know. I mean,

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>he's only thirty five years old. Um, you just don't

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>think of him as just thirty five though. No, he's

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>been around forever. But twenty one years old. We got

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>him here. Sean Witten told me though, like he felt

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like this is last year. Jason would hang it up

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>eventually when he felt like I'm just taking up space

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>at this point. And I don't think. I don't think

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he does the youth movement of this team. I doubt

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>he feels like that. Now. The question is does he

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>can he can he get out there and feel like

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>he can strap it up and like go one hundred

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>miles an hour for until last months and do this.

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>But until last week he felt like he could. He

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>showed up for offseason work out. Somebody made him an

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>offer he shouldn't refuse. Yeah, I think he was a portion.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just don't refuse. Give me ten percent

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>to me. Yeah, it's it's difficult. It just shows you

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>how much he loves the game of football. Because if

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>it was me, Hello, Monday night football. You know, I've

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>talked to John Gruden about that. You know, John got

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>back into coaching, but John's a coach. John did Monday

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>night football for nine years. He says. It's he says,

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>it's he goes, you really focus on just that week,

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that job. But he says, it's an incredible experience going around.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I've never got to go to other teams

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>facilities and talk to their personnel and talk to general

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>managers and talk to coach and said, he goes, it's

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>an incredible experience, he says, but I'm a coach. That's

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>what I do. The Raiders made him, Mike Mickey said,

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>an offer he couldn't refuse. Well, if if he wants

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a coach. We've seen guys go from the booth to coaching, right,

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you learn the league a little bit and

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>doing that job, and then it's like when you're forty

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>years old, you go, Okay, I think I think yeah,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I think that Jason Witten was going to coach.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he needs to be a coach. I don't.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't say going into booth is to go go

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>get that experience. I wonder if I wonder if that's

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>in the back of his mind, like I can play

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>one more year and then I'll try to get into

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>coaching and and and because if I get into this,

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>my career path is going to change. Hey, look, Dan

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Campbell wasn't half the player or a quarter the player

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of what Jason Witten was. He went on to be

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a coach and he was interim head coach and the

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>National Football League. And nothing against Dan Campbell. I love

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell, but Jason Witten. If if if Jason Witton

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>with the same path as Dan Campbell, he would be

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a head coach one day somebody would hire him as

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>a head coach. Yeah, it's just you think about all

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the great players in the history of the league, and

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>not many of them get into coaching because of the

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>hours and because if you've made the money Jason Witten has,

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>do you want to grind like? But who is committed

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>to Who's committed to making himself the best player through

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the hours? Jason Witten? There you go. Yeah, he's not

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>late strong. Yeah, he's not lazy. No, no, I know

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you're not saying that at all, but he's not lazy

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>different Yeah, yeah, yeah, guy gets worked twenty hours a

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>day during the season. Yeah, you know. Now it's now

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>on the family part of it. I mean his family

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>understands now, he gets up, he goes to work, he

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>comes home late that his family gets this. Yeah. Now,

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just assuming the timeframe. A lot of people were confused.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Why would you wait so long to do this to

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>your team? I am assuming just from the outsider looking in,

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it had a lot to do with the different contracts

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and different things that these networks could offer him, and

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>just the way that those laid out with Gruden, you know,

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>taking the job when he did, and other guys turning

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>down down, and different things like that. Because I do

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>think if Witten had thought, Okay, this is my retirement year.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't have waited as long as he did. Yeah.

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's and it's my understanding that Jerry's been in

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the loop on this. I mean in the last I

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know, probably helping him in certain aspects. Yeah, I mean,

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it wouldn't be like Jason to just catch Jerry. Yeah,

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and you gotta have an offer before you can think

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>about it. Yeah, I'm guarantee. It just came last week

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>with all the ESPN people here for the draft. There's

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>there's there's obviously tests that they do. You remember what

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Romo went through, the different tests that they had him

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>do games you come in. I just there's there's tests

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna do, and they're gonna put that in

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>front of audience and say, hey, who comes off as

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the best guy? And audience says, hey this Jason Witten.

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Guys pretty damn good at this. Yeah. And I always said, yeah, boom,

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>here we go. I would love what Mickey said though, too,

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>as far as if you knew at the start of

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the season, Okay, this is Jason Witten's last year. Everyone's

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>on board with that like a Ray Lewis type situation,

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Because I would love to see how this team would

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>act and respond to certain things, just because I personally

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>have never worked with Jason Witten on any degree, and

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>especially not on a football field. But could you imagine

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>not playing your best if you ever knew this was

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>one of Jason Witten's last games, because you know, just

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the emotion that would draw and everything like that. I

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>would love to have something like that. I think would

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>be maybe easier for Cowboys. This is gonna sound I

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>don't mean to sound disrespectful to you here, but I

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think Jason Witten would want that because he doesn't

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>want all that. Noah, he doesn't. I mean, I think

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Jason Witten has an ego, they all do, but I

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think he has it to the point of play

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>for me, play for me bit. You know. It's Jason

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Witten has always been about play for yourselves, let's play

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>for each other, you know. I think that's something he

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>has always done. And if every game was oh, this

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>is the last one against the last trip to FedEx,

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>last trip to get Yeah, I mean, for him having

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>every week stand up there and say, Jason, last think

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of that last trip to MetLife, you know, and well, yeah,

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it is it's last trip. It was it was the

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>last trip the week before the fed At, you know,

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think I think it would get old for him,

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I really do. I think this this way, to me

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 1>is pretty perfect for Jason Witten because he has it's

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>another app opportunity, it's another chapter in his life. You know,

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it's something he can. He can. He closes the door

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>on one, he opens the door on another. And he's

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>got a good buddy who experienced this last year and

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>it's worked out pretty well. Tony Romo. So I don't

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>know to trust me to tell him to hurry up

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and make a decision. Yeah, choose your life for our

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>for our for our for our purposes. Yeah, choose your

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>life now on change it forever. But yes, no, of

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>course the Cowboys have already shown some some different movements

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>drafting Dalton Schultz. They should have done that even if

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>he was coming back. Should like him, the Stanford guy.

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I just they needed another tight end, they rico. No,

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>they needed another tight end that play football. Yes, yes,

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>we talked to one of the scouts came by and

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 1>said he liked the pick, maybe more than any of them. Sure,

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and the reason was simple because he played at Stanford,

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and they produced tight ends like in the NFL, like

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a factory. Yeah, you know, zach Ertz is a

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>pretty good one. Played in the Super Bowl and want

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl. So yeah, we'll see how what a

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 1>ceiling is. But I think they think he's a pretty

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>solid guy that might be underrated as a pass catcher. Absolutely.

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that if you if you're asking him though,

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>too to be a flex or detached player, that's not

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>his game. His game is in line why blocking on

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the edge, working with tackles, working working with combo blocks,

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>these are all things that he can do. So yeah,

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>the right on my board, right where he was taken,

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>right there in the fifth round. I thought it was

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>a great pick him and the guy Will Disley was

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>a guy had mentioned Yevers to Washington I thought were

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the two best block and tight ends in the draft.

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Had him right there with each other, and Disley went

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>a round ahead at him. But still Schultz is a

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>really really good player. So like his numbers aren't great,

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 1>but that's a Stanford offense, right, I mean, Stanford will

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>put as many blockers on the field as they can.

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>The quarterback play hasn't been nearly as good as it

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>has in the past, so they've had some problems that way.

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>But David Shaw is a very physical coach. Their team

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.919
<v Speaker 1>is a very physical coach. They're a very run first team.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>They've got a kid named Love as a running back

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that we're all gonna be talking about next year is

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>one of the top running backs. And the they'll be

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>in the draft, and so yeah, it's all about it's

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 1>all about really football in a phone booth for those guys.

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Very similar what the Cowboys do. Very run heavy team

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>on first down, try and play with some balance, but

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the running aspect of it is the most important thing

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>to them. And that's where you have That's where you

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>get blocking tight ends and fullbacks and just get a

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>complete tight en. Yeah, get Mike Dicko. Yeah don't. Well

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that goes way back. But sorry, well because they don't.

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>They don't make those anymos. Jerry Kramer taking a shot

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>at the Ice Bowl people. The only guy that understood

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>is Ice Bowl comment was Bob Lilly. I think right

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>there for me, Yeah, I understand, yeah, you got. I'm

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>sorry though, the guy David Akers not impressed, just not impressed.

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>It seemed phony. If you if you said if you

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>sent their safety, if you sent Brian Dawkins, why did

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>they not do that? That's the one I was. They

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>probably couldn't get them. You know, I'll tell you what

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you said. They didn't get him to come and do it.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>They brought Rocky in there, Trotter, those were all scary guys.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>That guy was the especially since Trotter's from Texas. Yeah

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and hooks right. The only thing that Drew Pearson really

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>said amy at the Eagles fans the year before was

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>that he loved them for giving them a career. He

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't really like jab them. It was mainly just in

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>their city. Yeah, yeah, I just felt like, don't send

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a kicker to do a man's jose. The other the

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 1>other thing is this is why movie sequels aren't as

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>good as the original. Right, you can't, you can't, don't.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>You don't even trot it's untouchable. He should have just

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>got up there and played it straight like everybody was

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>expecting that. Here's the pick. Why didn't you just let

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the best moment of the draft be Ryan Shasier Because

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that can even compete against that. You don't

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>need to have some silly rivalry moment. Ryan Shazier and

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Shack Griffin. They stole the draft in terms of just good,

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>feel good moments. Yeah, Phil didn't have their moment. Connor

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Williams your guy. He had some great reaction, probably the

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>best reaction we've seen from a draft pick and quite

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>some time. Yeah. It was kind of cool though, the

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>family that went up there to read Connor's pick. By

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the way. Yeah, if you remember that the son of

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>the soldier, the father was a fallen soldier. Soldier, they

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>brought the family out there. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah,

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>in the jerseys it looked really sharp. Yeah. Yeah, and

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it was nice that at some point gil Brandt got

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to go out and announce them. Why Gil Brand's not

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame, I will never know. He's

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.479
<v Speaker 1>done more for football than a lot of guys. And still, yeah,

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, for there's a reason there's a reason scouts

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>or scouts because of gil brand There's things that he

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>did in the sixties that we still do today. Most

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>sure vative thinker. Absolutely, you know, we can go on

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and on. Jim Brown was out there, Bob Lilly was

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>out there, it was Cherry Kramer. You are you are annoyed,

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>all right? When we come back, we will have Rob's

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Twitter pool and yes, Mickey did see it today, so

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>we will know. We'll all be able to thank God.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.440
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0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and if you can't go find it at this break,

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<v Speaker 1>why when the game's on the line, you're on your feet,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're at home or in the stands. Actually, you're

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<v Speaker 1>more than a fan. You are a member of Cowboys Nation,

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0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>is talking Cowboys. Do you guys remember why Papa John's

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>pizza taste so great? The gredients like the veggies never

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>frozen in the pepperoni, one percent pork and beef. And

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>when you have better ingredients, you have better pizza. And

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>it can only be Papa John's. You guys, so how

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<v Speaker 1>much Papa John's they consumed in the war room inside

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<v Speaker 1>Forward Center at the Star in Frisco. Lots lots lots

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they were fueled up by Papa Johns. What's the closest one?

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>They wiped him out of pizza to bring all that

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>pizza here? The closest delivery location? Yeah, yeah, we should bill.

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<v Speaker 1>You live out here, you should know there's one pretty close,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close. Yeah yeah, all right, it's always a Papa

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 1>John's close. What are you guys talking about? They're all over,

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>they're all over the place. Yea, all right, what do

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>we gotta bring it? Staying on the draft track, you

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:31.240
<v Speaker 1>saw the pole make it's amazing. It's a miracle. Best

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>value pick for the Cowboys in the draft, Brian, you

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>might have a different I know you like one guy

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>who's not on this list. There's only four options. I

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>squeeze in five prospects here that they drafted vander Esh,

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, Mike Gallup in the third round, and then

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>their two fourth round picks. I grouped him together, Doran's Armstrong,

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 1>and we mentioned Schultz. But we can go down the line.

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Anybody else really jump out? You're like wow on the poll, yeah, Pole,

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I voted for Conrad Williams, did you Yeah, Okay, but

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right. Mike White to me is a lottery

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>ticket in the fifth round. Lottery ticket. Yeah, five one,

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>seventy one. I'm a big, big, big fan of Mike White.

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna I think folks are gonna like

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 1>him at the end of the day. Connor Williams makes

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:11.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. I had him on my top

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty over vander Esh had went at twenty seven, one

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight, So yeah, I was the Connor Williams,

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Like Tay said, that's the one that makes a lot

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 1>of sense. You plug him in. You let him play

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the guard spot. Get you back, Rob. You even said

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>it yourself, to get you back to the things you

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>were doing earlier, you know, running the football, that having

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a solid offensive line. You know, he gives you some

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>flexible I wouldn't be surprised if they work him sum

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>at center as well, to try and see if he

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.359
<v Speaker 1>could be a backup guy in that spot. But boy,

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>what a good athlete, good player too, So very happy

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>about the pick. I voted for that one. Tell you

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>what I voted for vander Esh And now I agree

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>we've all exhausted the points of Connor Williams. I think

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>they got a great one at fifty. But vander Esh.

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I spoke with Maryonella yesterday because a lot of people

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>kept comparing him to Brian Urlacker, and I wanted to

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>know what he thought about that, because of course he

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>coached him at the Bears and different things like that.

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And he said, you know, he has the potential. You

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>can't just put somebody's name and say this is the bright.

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>He did not. He did not like to do that

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>at all. He said, you know, I'm just saying they

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>have similar range, similar traits, but he is not Brian

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 1>or Lacker two point zero. That can't be dawned on

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 1>anyone until they actually play NFL football. And so, you know,

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:31.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of hearing his analysis of him, you know, talks

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>about just the smarts of him, and that's not saying that,

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, all these other guys aren't, but the fact

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that he can do this and pick it up quickly

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and seeing what he was able to do at Boise

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>stayed and just his body is different than what we've

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>seen him with other guys. So we'll see vender ashmick Um.

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I went with the people's choice Connor because I think

0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>he was a first round pick. Yeah, and you got

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 1>him in the second round. So your question was value, right,

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes it was. I think that was great value. And

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the fans agree, sixty six percent, say Connor Williams. I

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>voted for Gallup because my second choice. There were guys

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 1>in the war room that were down with him at

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty yep, and the fact that they liked a bunch

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.720
<v Speaker 1>of receivers yep, and he was They got the last

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>one that was still available, and they waited and didn't

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 1>make a trade up. They just stayed and it looked

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>out for him at eighty one. They really like him

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, so they're really happy with this draft overall.

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And I mean maybe they say that every year, but

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they got value with some multiple picks here.

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.240
<v Speaker 1>After the guys went down there to the Texas Pro Day,

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of circled back around to some different scouts

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and I think they were it seemed at least that

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they had always kind of been in agreement that Connor

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Williams wasn't a guy they were going to necessarily go

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.919
<v Speaker 1>after in the first round. Yeah. I felt like though

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that they traded back, that was where it was going

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>to come from. I had an idea at nineteen they

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>weren't planning. Yeah, at nineteen they were planning on it.

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>But if you went back, there were a couple of

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>teams there that I felt like that they could go back.

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Carolina was one spot, the Saints. I'm surprised the Saints

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 1>came up for a pick, but they went defensive end

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>is what they did. So yeah, I shocked everyone. Yeah,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a very shocking move, but that Connor Williams.

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams was I'll tell you how special Connor Williams

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>was to them. Connor Williams kept them from trading for

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas. We talked about that. I mean, if you know,

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and they liked, they were willing to do something with

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas. If if Connor Williams was not on that board,

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I had a feeling that Earl Thomas would would be here.

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that he was on that board, they

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 1>couldn't pass up that opportunity. So that's why they made

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>the pick. Yeah, thank goodness, Nicky's Nicky's a fan. No,

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying. I'm just saying second round pick for

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Thomas was too much, but they might have done it.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>You're right, they were thinking about it, but it's too much.

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>If Connor w wasn't on the board, they were they

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>were going to dance that dance. Yeah. Yeah, well I'm

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>glad you brought up Mike White. Of course, he is

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback they picked up from Western Kentucky. Right now,

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>their current depth is Dak Prescott, Cooper Rush, and Mike White.

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>We haven't kill the more. He's a coach making calls.

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>He was he was making calls forgot Dalton Storm that's

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>on the undrafted free agent list. Are you he's the

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>fourth guy. Yeah, he's too Daltons. That's what the Dalton

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>is that everybody starting naming their kids new popular from

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the movie Roadhouse. If you ever remember that Dalton Patrick

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.959
<v Speaker 1>saw Brian. What a great reference. But but these people

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>that kids didn't know Roadhouse, at this Roadhouse, you know

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. Damn sure know what you're talking about?

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, Mike White, third string QB here, Yeah, we're

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna Are they gonna bring any veterans when no, don't

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 1>assume I don't think third yeah, uh oh yeah, is

0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>here to compete? Is here to compete. Jerry said something interesting,

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and he said this to us all the way back

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>at the combine. He'd take a young guy over a veteran.

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And so we saw this kind of coming um the

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 1>thing with him as snaps and this guy's not going

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 1>to get the same number as snaps that Dak Prescott got.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But Jerry saw the value in a rookie getting as

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 1>many snaps as Dak Gott and and yeah, there go

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the progression he's adding his career versus like a rumo

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:24.919
<v Speaker 1>who had to sit for three and a half years ago.

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 1>They'd like to just go ahead and invest in a

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>young guy I think personally, and I haven't been told this,

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>but look, they've tried Weed and they've tried Castle, they've

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>tried these guys, and where did it get him? So

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you might as well go job knowell him more. Yeah,

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you might as well just go with a young guy

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and start from scratch and get invest in him and

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>in time maybe that could be a backup for you.

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Gee's absolutely right. I'm glad you brought up to Dak Prescott. Jerry.

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's obsessed. He can't believe Dak got as many snaps

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 1>as he did and what it paid off for them. Yeah. Now,

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of course they don't want Tony to get hurt like

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 1>he did, but it worked out one less preseason game.

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you'll get him some opportunities. I think that's great.

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Mike White will come in here. You know,

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Moore went and worked him out and you know

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>he was able to. Yeah, he went out there and

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was I'm happy they did. I mean, I

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 1>might mean personally had a third round grade on the guy.

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I when you look at the top, say the top

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 1>five quarterbacks that went in the draft when it was

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, Rose and Jackson, Alan Darnold and Mayfield. I

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think Mike White is too terribly down the line.

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean I had about a round difference on him.

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, and I think that they did

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the right thing here. They really really did. And the

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>fact they got him in the fifth round I think

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 1>is even better. That you're you're it's a lottery ticket.

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to you're trying to hit on a guy.

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Mike White has the talent to be a starting quarterback

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League. He really does. I don't

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 1>know if it's gonna be here or somewhere else, but

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>he has that talent. Strong. Let the competition begin, Yeah, right, absolutely.

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush, Yeah, I mean they're not going to just

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>hand him the job. Well, you know, if Cooper Rush

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>plays like he did last preseason, I think that's a

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>good thing too. Yeah, I really do. I mean, I

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I like Cooper Rush was outstanding. That was that was

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 1>very surprising to me. But but you have to get

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush. What happened to him? He got snaps, Yes,

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>he got a lot of snaps. Let's see if they

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 1>get you know, let's see if we have Mike why

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush gets uh half a game and Mike White

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:23.359
<v Speaker 1>gets the other half of the game. So I did

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to divvy up the snaps since you've

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.399
<v Speaker 1>got so many new receivers for these preseason games. So

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Dak does need snaps with them, but you don't want

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to over expose them. So you would like to play

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>these young guys. But on the other hand, you know

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>he needs to play in that one like Zeke, it

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, right, I think both Scarborough better get ready

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 1>to go leading rush for preseason. Yeah, he better be

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.839
<v Speaker 1>ready to go to work, right, They're gonna wear him out. Yeah,

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>because even I think Jason John yea, he made reference

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to Zeke. Yeah, well you know he's not gonna get

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>too much. Yeah, so uh yeah, Scarborough and Trey Williams

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>get ready, Yeah, gig him, gig him indeed and roll tide,

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>both of them. You guys. That does Brian still doesn't

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 1>have a team yet. Um not really, I think does timing,

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean reports does looking for that one year deal,

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>bet on himself and cash in next year right next week? Yeah,

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, we get we get to may people get

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to OTAs, they get through some OTAs, get through rookie camps.

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Everybody can sit back now and look at their boards

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and say, Okay, we're really going to go to camp

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>with this? Do we really want to? This is you know,

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of when guys were added, like

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are linebacker from Alabama was added, I believe

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>in June. Oh yeah, Rondo McClane. Yeah, sure, yeah, he

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>was added in June. You know, sometimes you sit down

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 1>and does is trying to be really he's trying to

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>be focused on Okay, I'd like a one year deal.

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to do that. You know. He's because the

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 1>reports you're talking about a Ravens had offered him that

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>multi year right, yeah, And so he's very specific where

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>he wants to go, and some teams gonna settle in

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, you know, now we can make a sign.

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:05.399
<v Speaker 1>It'll probably be a very quiet day in June when

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>we're all sitting around and together. Oh at lunch and

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 1>oh look, jes Briant, you know, oh we gotta go

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to work. Yeah, des Bryant got a job. So I

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.399
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a problem right now, because I've been

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in that room. You start looking at, Okay, where are

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>we deficihing on our team. Where can we help our team?

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Des Brian would be a very good help for somebody

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>right now. Agreed, Yeah, you do start looking at that.

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just you're right. I think the focus that I'm

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>seeing at least is just through social media. Guys are

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to catch their breath right now. They really are.

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I looked. I walked by Will McClay at breakfast this morning,

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and I talked about him because we asked about it.

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I suppose jersey number We were looking for a picture

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of him at Rice. What jersey was? He goes he

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>was number one, So we're just talking about but well,

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>he looked he looked just so just like he was

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to catch his breath. He was sitting there eating

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.919
<v Speaker 1>an omelet and just by himself. He was just sitting

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.759
<v Speaker 1>by him and yeah, you know, and in that job

0:52:57.800 --> 0:52:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't do you don't get to be by yourself

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>very much, you really don't. And he looked like he

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>was enjoyed sitting there with the sauce on the omelet.

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And just when I walked up to talk to me,

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he was like looking at me, like, what are you

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask me? You know, when I just knew better

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask. I'm not gonna ask, but he but

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>he just looked very at peace with himself and they'll

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 1>all catch their breath and get back on that horse

0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 1>here coming up in jew He's like, I got you,

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, just leave me a lot. Yeah. I was

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.279
<v Speaker 1>happy about happy about Mike White. I told him, Hey,

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 1>way to go, Mike White. He goes, Yeah. We liked

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>him a lot, We really really did. So we'll see. Yeah,

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and I love it. Last year was the Michigan Draft.

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, they drafted those teammates out of Michigan, and

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>then this year it seems like it's gonna be the

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Boise State one because said Wilson gets to join his

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>guy vander esh Lve is what we're calling him on

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>certain things we gotta work on. That's wrong with that

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>l That's what they called him all throughout college. Yeah,

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't roll off the tongue now. No guy said

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it last night, right, Yeah, he asked us a question.

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 1>He called him lv Oh. I haven't been calling him

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like a nickname. Now he called that, but I understand

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly who he was asking about. Yeah, we need something, Vandy. Nah,

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:10.359
<v Speaker 1>let's let's pronounce the initials like will. Let's like let

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 1>things kind of a little. We'll figure something LV. It

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:18.439
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a ring. We got a long plane flight

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:20.320
<v Speaker 1>coming up. We'll figure out something about it when you

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 1>get off that plane. I expect something from you guys.

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 1>And we're looking at, you know, kind of the youth

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>movement of our team, and I think Nick had pulled

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>together kind of a list of just from March first

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to May first, the ten ten year Cowboys we have

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:38.399
<v Speaker 1>on this team still and you know Olph sitting right there.

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 1>But it really did change. And Sean Lee now is

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 1>going to find himself in that makeshift Witten role. I

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 1>mean he already was essentially, but huh, well, if we

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>got breaking news here, didn't Mickey just say it's a deal.

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>He shouldn't refuse. I said that. I said, if it

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.359
<v Speaker 1>was me, I would go take the money night football job.

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:03.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's me. If Witton decides to hang up the cleats,

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee will essentially be the main main main Dak.

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah voice that means da will need to step up.

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Now this is about you know, this is a Byron Jones.

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 1>This is important year for Dak. You know, in a

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. I think that now it's there's are

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>certain voices that are long longer, and you can say

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 1>what you want about me Scandrick getting getting along at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but Scandrick was a voice in that room, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Amazon all or nothing. Yeah, and you know, so

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that that means if he's a voice and that's gone.

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 1>And Witten one moment did yeah in three game losing

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<v Speaker 1>stream and he looked at the camera after he said it,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know you're filming me there, Yeah, come on, yeah,

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Like hey, but if you did see I don't know

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 1>how many people have seen it. You know, Witten holds

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:48.879
<v Speaker 1>a quick meeting with the captains at the start of

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, right after it was announced, and it's like,

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>what guy's going to do that? I hope it's Dak Yeah. Yeah, Well,

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Travis Frederick could be a guy too that could be

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<v Speaker 1>very very vocal, made a vocal guy on defense. Yeah,

0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:04.720
<v Speaker 1>other than Sean Lee in case he's not Crawford DeMarcus Lawrence.

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Well if he if he wants to assume that role,

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he has the kid. He may be more

0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of an example, but everybody else're still trying to prove themselves. Yeah,

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have to be so vocal.

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 1>If that's not, you just follow my lead, follow what

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I do out there, you know, And I think I

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 1>think lawrences are in that type of leadership. That's the

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Damn Bailey rule. Yeah, that's the damn Bailey rule. Same thing.

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 1>They didn't draft a kicker bring anyone in yet. So

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:33.800
<v Speaker 1>see this you about leadership role, How about Jalen Smith?

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean that? Does that make if he's if

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:43.359
<v Speaker 1>he's playing at a high level, yes, I mean he's,

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>but people look at him as a guy who's overcomes

0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>so much to be where he writes. Yeah, and all

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I think you have respect. You mentioned

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 1>about Griffin. I think Griffin's gonna go to Seattle as

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 1>brothers there in aw But I think people can respect

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the story. I think they're gonna respect the player that

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>what he's overcome. I think Jaalen Smith could be that

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 1>type of guy. I think Jalen Smith could be we

0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 1>always see a smile on his face kind of guy,

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but maybe a guy that has some leadership qualities to him,

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of bring people together. Well, I just think it's

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 1>got to be somebody that it knows how to interact

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>with the players and not be so caught up with

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.080
<v Speaker 1>taking care of yourself right. And there's so many guys

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 1>on that defense that are just like, Okay, I'm trying

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>to win a starting job here. Tyrone has been one

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 1>of those guys for a while now. Um, I think

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence is kind of go back to him. I think

0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:34.320
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of moving. He showed guys a lot. I

0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 1>think he earned a lot of respect playing through that

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 1>back injury a couple of years ago. So that's another

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>one for me. But although there's the way this roster's

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 1>turned over, there's not many guys that remember him doing that. No,

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of young dvs on this team think about it.

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 1>That was like what four years three years ago? Yeah,

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:56.919
<v Speaker 1>it's there's it's turned It's gonna be a different locker room. Yeah,

0:57:56.960 --> 0:58:00.080
<v Speaker 1>for sure, it's gonna be a different. But I I

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>look at I look at guys like Sean Lee. I

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>think Sean Lee is a lae. We don't see Sean Lee.

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>We see the emotion and all about the passion. I

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.439
<v Speaker 1>think you'll see that with his teammates and locker rooms

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But I think it really is going to

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>come on Dak Prescott. I think Dak Prescott needs to

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>figure out maybe he needs to do some things that

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe to be opposite. And you guys might not agree

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>with me on this, but needs to be opposite a

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit of what Tony Romo did in his career.

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>And I mean this in a way of Tony I

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>think had respect, but I don't know if he had

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody's attention. And I think Dak needs to take a

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 1>page out of take an opposite approach and try and

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think about John kittena and this

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is gonna sound crazy. I think about John Kitten in

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the way that John Kitten. Everybody loved John Kitten in

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that locker room. The guys who played dominoes played dominoes

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>with him, The guys that went to the Bible study

0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 1>went to Bible study with him. He was one of

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>those guys as a quarterback, even as a backup, that

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>just brought everybody together. And I think Dak Prescott needs

0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to be I think Tony became

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a little more removed the further he went along, the

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 1>more removed. It's like he became over here where you know,

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 1>they needed somebody that was centrally located in the middle

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of all that, and I feel like Dak doesn't need

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>to make that mistake. Don't remove yourself, try and find

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a way to immerse yourself and what everybody's trying to do.

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 1>The players that want to play dominoes, the players that

0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 1>want to go to Bible study, the players that want

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to do everything, the players that want to play laundry basketball. Yeah, no,

0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I think Tony drifted and he

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>tried to come back late in the game. It was

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a little problem because early, yeah, he had that role.

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Sure they were rallying around him right right, and then

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>he got some of that just getting older, you have kids, kids,

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