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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Sat. Here are

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Ryan brought us, Rob Phillips and Taylor Stern.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage studio. It is the

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Speaker 1: first Tuesday after the twenty eighteen NFL Draft, and of

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Speaker 1: course these guys are still grinding away getting ready. You know,

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Speaker 1: Mickey joked, you can't see it in our studio, but

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Speaker 1: there is a chair, a lazy boy type chair, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's where you guys would like to sleep

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Speaker 1: if you could. We're still recovering, are you. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: With all the new cameras we have, we might have

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Speaker 1: an angle of that chair. You might. Yeah, we should

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Speaker 1: get a sleepcam. A sleepcam brought us just running on fumes.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing good? No, I'm good. I'm ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: I've been working on these undrafted kids. So some of

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Speaker 1: those guys should have been drafted. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the problem is, but I'm glad the Cowboys got a

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Speaker 1: couple of them. We'll jump right into it. You know.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we have the nine NFL draft picks, but

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Speaker 1: of course, now there are eighteen undrafted free agents that

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Speaker 1: will be here on the team at least you know

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Speaker 1: for now. That's always kind of an up in the air.

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Speaker 1: But you're mentioning some of the names. Which ones stick

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Speaker 1: out to you right now? I think if I the

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Speaker 1: ones that I've looked at so far here and we've posted,

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Speaker 1: I think the next set of four go up on

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com. Cam Kelly, the cornerback out of

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Speaker 1: San Diego State, was very impressive to me. Trevarious Ward,

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Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Middle Tennessee. I think Ward. I

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Speaker 1: think Ward's got a shot to make this team. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. As a quick footed kid and he's

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Speaker 1: stays in position, he tackles well. Cam Kelly, like I

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Speaker 1: talked about him earlier, I was I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like that he might be a free safety in this

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Speaker 1: in this scheme. The way he plays, so he's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of not as quick guy, but he's got

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Speaker 1: some link to him. He's a physical guy, so maybe

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on him as a potential guy that

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Speaker 1: they move. During training camp, I watched David Wells from

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Speaker 1: the tight end from San Diego State. He is a

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Speaker 1: in line blocker really more than he is an athlete

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Speaker 1: or a downfield player. So I kind of understand that

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Speaker 1: de Quentin Osborne from Olahoma State is a short guy

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Speaker 1: that plays as a one technique. You could also use

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Speaker 1: him as a three. I like the way he plays

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Speaker 1: up the field. I didn't see him at all because

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Speaker 1: again I was looking at short guys, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: see notice him as a short guy. I kind of

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Speaker 1: liked the way he attacks the gap. And then this

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Speaker 1: Kyle Quero from Northwestern is a guy that I kind

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Speaker 1: of like a little bit. He is a guy, he's

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Speaker 1: a bigger guy in the six two two fifteen range.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that probably will project from a safety

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Speaker 1: one right there. I think that they're gonna move him,

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Speaker 1: but you watch him down around the line of scrimmage, guys,

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Speaker 1: he's really a good player, and when you play him deep,

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Speaker 1: he's a little bit more of a trouble there. Tyree

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Speaker 1: Robinson was another He's a free safety from Oregon that's

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Speaker 1: more of a true free safety than he is a

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Speaker 1: strong So maybe what they're gonna do is gonna take

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Speaker 1: Quero put him as a linebacker and then put Robinson

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Speaker 1: with Cam Kelly as well. So those are kind of

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Speaker 1: what I got through so far. But Wards should have

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Speaker 1: been drafted. Cam Kelly should have been drafted too well.

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Speaker 1: So there was a guy, Mickey, that you spoke very

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Speaker 1: very highly of throughout the season and throughout training camp,

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Speaker 1: especially Lewis Neal. He was an undrafted guy last year

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Speaker 1: and he's found his way to maintain on the roster.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't necessarily mean you can't make the roster.

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, they're different. Yeah, playing him at fullback,

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Speaker 1: he's going to fullback. He's gonna move to fullback. So

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Speaker 1: they like to do that so well, they're trying to

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Speaker 1: find if the guy's pretty just got talented. They did

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you something. Jamie Showers, Mickey and I

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Speaker 1: The question came up. They they think that Jamie Showers

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he does or not, but they do

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Speaker 1: like the possibility of what he could bring, So we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens here in training camp. Well, safety's one,

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Speaker 1: with a good camp. What about Marchie. I love that name.

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Speaker 1: He should make it because Marchi Marchie Murdoch. He's a

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Speaker 1: But if you look at the undrafted guys, a lot

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Speaker 1: when you have scouts at certain schools. Well at Middle Tennessee. Again, Ward,

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Speaker 1: mentioning it. Yesterday. Some former Cowboys were cut after the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I think Terroll McClaine was a big name people were

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Speaker 1: Is there any ever any interest? I know you guys

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Speaker 1: that they will explore that opportunity. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine there that ship is sailed. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: McClain McClean isn't explore and Wilcox is. Mickey said it's

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's a cover guy that they're looking for.

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Speaker 1: But Clain's interesting though. I think it comes down to

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to money. Look, they just traded

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Speaker 1: So did we'll tell you they we're gonna play him

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle? Did he tell me that? Yeah, since

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Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that Will really liked him coming

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Speaker 1: easy for them. Absolutely. Yeah, Well we're talking about other

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Speaker 1: traded guys, and of course we have the benefit of

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Speaker 1: being here at the Star and for us going seeing yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Tavon Austin was already out here getting involved in the

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Speaker 1: different things will shake out before the team even hits

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Speaker 1: the field for the season, But Tavon Austin, a Dallas Cowboy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it shows a maybe a philosophy shift,

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Speaker 1: they might put into this offense. I think with we

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Speaker 1: Of course, there's still speculations about his decision that people

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Speaker 1: the latest and what's the update you have for the

465
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Speaker 1: Jason Witten retirement? Mick, Yeah, go ahead say the break. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're waiting, just like everybody else's waiting. We are. I

467
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Speaker 1: don't know that there's an update, you know. He My

468
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Speaker 1: understanding as of yesterday was he was still contemplating that

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Speaker 1: he hadn't made a decision yet and he can't seem

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Speaker 1: to decide if he wants to take the deal that

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Speaker 1: probably he shouldn't refuse or play another year. And I

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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting listening to Emmett Smith talk about

473
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Speaker 1: it this morning, and he was pointing out that, you

474
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Speaker 1: know a lot of times what players do is they

475
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Speaker 1: want to hang on that one more chance to go

476
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. And sometimes you know, you think, okay,

477
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Speaker 1: this maybe this next year, and it's like ten years later,

478
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Speaker 1: you still didn't go. And and uh so that's part

479
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Speaker 1: of the reason why guys don't want to retire if

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Speaker 1: they're healthy. And he's fortunate he is healthy. U. So

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Speaker 1: that's a great appointment because more shot, you know, I

482
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Speaker 1: think both you and Rob were there last week when

483
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Speaker 1: he was honoring those men that were part of his

484
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Speaker 1: Score Foundation with the J. C. Penny and Michael Strahan partnership,

485
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Speaker 1: and he kind of opened it up and he's talking about,

486
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Speaker 1: you know, Michael Strahan and he said he said it

487
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Speaker 1: with you know, kind of sarcasm, but he goes, you know,

488
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Speaker 1: that guy won two Super Bowls with the Giants while

489
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Speaker 1: I was down here not happy about that. And I

490
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Speaker 1: you know, it's something that that stings when you talk

491
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Speaker 1: about his career because he is such a such a

492
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Speaker 1: great and it's unfortunate that at this current time he's

493
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: not able to put Super Bowl winner next to his name.

494
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how you pass up an opportunity broadcast

495
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Speaker 1: on money night football. I don't, especially for amount of

496
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Speaker 1: money supposedly. I don't worry about the money. It's it's

497
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Speaker 1: one of the most iconic positions. It's if you look

498
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Speaker 1: at the if the history of television, Monday Night Football

499
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: is just as just as popular as any series Dallas,

500
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Speaker 1: any any any series one. I almost said the Simpsons.

501
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: It's been around twenty nine years. But you think about

502
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503
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: broadcasted for that is very, very few. And I you know,

504
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: Witton's had a hell of a career. We can all

505
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Speaker 1: you call him gold jacket wit, but I feel like

506
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Speaker 1: you cannot pass an opportunity up like that. I really

507
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Speaker 1: really don't. What if it does College Game Day, I

508
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Speaker 1: don't call it, okay, you know, if he does the

509
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Speaker 1: SEC is a college guy like Man of the Year, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if it came down to college, if it came down

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Speaker 1: to the CBS version of the SEC Game of the Week,

512
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Speaker 1: which he's a Tennessee guy, which would be perfect for him,

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Speaker 1: you know, with him and Brad Nessler doing that kind

514
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Speaker 1: of stuff. I kind of feel like, though, that that

515
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Speaker 1: that that would be a harder decision to do. But

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about Monday night football, it's gone down,

517
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Speaker 1: it has not had the ratings. Yeah, well, how about

518
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Speaker 1: the league would help them with some games used to

519
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: be Monday night football. It used to be yeah when

520
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Speaker 1: I was growing up, as there was no Sunday Night. Yeah,

521
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Speaker 1: that's the whole idea. Sunday Night gets incredible games. Sunday

522
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Speaker 1: Night you used to be like kind of the AFC

523
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Speaker 1: East pre Brady game where they just are West when

524
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Speaker 1: they just kind of give you two kind of average teams. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 1: and now yeah, Sunday Night in some ways has become

526
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Speaker 1: the new Monday Night. Yeah, but if you told me that,

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Speaker 1: if you said, hey, listen, you can go do the

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game, or oh okay, maybe it's a little

529
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Speaker 1: bit tougher decision. It's still you're right. It is still

530
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Speaker 1: really but his wheelhouse is the NFL. He knows the league,

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Speaker 1: He's seen these teams, he's seen the players. It would

532
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Speaker 1: be a lot easier to do Monday night football then

533
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Speaker 1: go back to college. I think that I think that

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Speaker 1: the Jason Witton, to me, I never would believe have

535
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Speaker 1: lieved that he was going to be a broadcaster. I

536
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: always believed him to be a college football coach or

537
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Speaker 1: a coach. I think his enthusiasm, his passion for the

538
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: game translates better into college football. I think his broadcasting

539
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: if he did college would translate. They would he would

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00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: he would get into it. Now, not to say he's

541
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Speaker 1: not going to get into the NFL stuff, but he

542
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Speaker 1: the way that he the passion that he has for

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00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: the game, to me is more of a college atmosphere

544
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: kind of a thing then the NFL, which is more

545
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: of a business reminded. So that's part of his decision.

546
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Would he wants a coach more than he wants a

547
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: now you know what, if he wants to coach, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think if he would been out of the game

549
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: for two years and had a chance to coach somewhere,

550
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: he would have had a shot at the Tennessee job

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00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: at University of Tennessee. I think he really would have.

552
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: I think full former would have interviewed him as a possibility.

553
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Speaker 1: I've always believed that he was going to be a coach.

554
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: I just from the from the minute minute anything. Yeah,

555
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: he coaches his kids and life lessons every day. You

556
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: watch how he interacts with people, those kids on the

557
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Cowboy you thing. You know, the intensity that he shows,

558
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: of the passion he shows for that, and I know

559
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: it's but it's kids. That's why I think the college

560
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: game to him, if he was a college coach, it

561
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: would make perfect sense. Coaching in his blood. I mean

562
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Speaker 1: I spoke to his brother Sean for a while last

563
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Speaker 1: year for a story I did on him and his

564
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Speaker 1: brother's a coach. His brother's coaching at their old high

565
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Speaker 1: school where their grandfather coach for like thirty years. I mean, yeah,

566
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Speaker 1: I agree. I've always thought that would and maybe eventually

567
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: will still be the path. I don't know. I mean,

568
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: he's only thirty five years old. Um, you just don't

569
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Speaker 1: think of him as just thirty five though. No, he's

570
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: been around forever. But twenty one years old. We got

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Speaker 1: him here. Sean Witten told me though, like he felt

572
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Speaker 1: like this is last year. Jason would hang it up

573
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: eventually when he felt like I'm just taking up space

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00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: at this point. And I don't think. I don't think

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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: he does the youth movement of this team. I doubt

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Speaker 1: he feels like that. Now. The question is does he

577
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Speaker 1: can he can he get out there and feel like

578
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: he can strap it up and like go one hundred

579
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: miles an hour for until last months and do this.

580
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: But until last week he felt like he could. He

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Speaker 1: showed up for offseason work out. Somebody made him an

582
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: offer he shouldn't refuse. Yeah, I think he was a portion.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just don't refuse. Give me ten percent

584
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, it's it's difficult. It just shows you

585
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: how much he loves the game of football. Because if

586
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Speaker 1: it was me, Hello, Monday night football. You know, I've

587
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: talked to John Gruden about that. You know, John got

588
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Speaker 1: back into coaching, but John's a coach. John did Monday

589
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: night football for nine years. He says. It's he says,

590
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: it's he goes, you really focus on just that week,

591
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Speaker 1: that job. But he says, it's an incredible experience going around.

592
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: He goes, I've never got to go to other teams

593
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: facilities and talk to their personnel and talk to general

594
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: managers and talk to coach and said, he goes, it's

595
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596
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Speaker 1: what I do. The Raiders made him, Mike Mickey said,

597
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: an offer he couldn't refuse. Well, if if he wants

598
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Speaker 1: a coach. We've seen guys go from the booth to coaching, right,

599
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Speaker 1: and maybe you learn the league a little bit and

600
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Speaker 1: doing that job, and then it's like when you're forty

601
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Speaker 1: because yeah, I think that Jason Witten was going to coach.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to be a coach. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't say going into booth is to go go

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Speaker 1: get that experience. I wonder if I wonder if that's

606
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Speaker 1: in the back of his mind, like I can play

607
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Speaker 1: one more year and then I'll try to get into

608
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Speaker 1: coaching and and and because if I get into this,

609
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: my career path is going to change. Hey, look, Dan

610
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Speaker 1: Campbell wasn't half the player or a quarter the player

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Speaker 1: National Football League. And nothing against Dan Campbell. I love

614
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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, but Jason Witten. If if if Jason Witton

615
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Speaker 1: with the same path as Dan Campbell, he would be

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Speaker 1: a head coach one day somebody would hire him as

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Speaker 1: a head coach. Yeah, it's just you think about all

618
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Speaker 1: the great players in the history of the league, and

619
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Speaker 1: not many of them get into coaching because of the

620
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Speaker 1: hours and because if you've made the money Jason Witten has,

621
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Speaker 1: do you want to grind like? But who is committed

622
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Speaker 1: to Who's committed to making himself the best player through

623
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Speaker 1: the hours? Jason Witten? There you go. Yeah, he's not

624
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Speaker 1: late strong. Yeah, he's not lazy. No, no, I know

625
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: you're not saying that at all, but he's not lazy

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Speaker 1: different Yeah, yeah, yeah, guy gets worked twenty hours a

627
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Speaker 1: day during the season. Yeah, you know. Now it's now

628
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: on the family part of it. I mean his family

629
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Speaker 1: understands now, he gets up, he goes to work, he

630
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Speaker 1: comes home late that his family gets this. Yeah. Now,

631
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Speaker 1: I'm just assuming the timeframe. A lot of people were confused.

632
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: Why would you wait so long to do this to

633
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Speaker 1: your team? I am assuming just from the outsider looking in,

634
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: it had a lot to do with the different contracts

635
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: and different things that these networks could offer him, and

636
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: just the way that those laid out with Gruden, you know,

637
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Speaker 1: taking the job when he did, and other guys turning

638
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: down down, and different things like that. Because I do

639
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: think if Witten had thought, Okay, this is my retirement year.

640
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have waited as long as he did. Yeah.

641
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: And it's and it's my understanding that Jerry's been in

642
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: the loop on this. I mean in the last I

643
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: don't know, probably helping him in certain aspects. Yeah, I mean,

644
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: it's it wouldn't be like Jason to just catch Jerry. Yeah,

645
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: and you gotta have an offer before you can think

646
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I'm guarantee. It just came last week

647
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: with all the ESPN people here for the draft. There's

648
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: there's there's obviously tests that they do. You remember what

649
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Romo went through, the different tests that they had him

650
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: do games you come in. I just there's there's tests

651
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: that they're gonna do, and they're gonna put that in

652
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: front of audience and say, hey, who comes off as

653
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: the best guy? And audience says, hey this Jason Witten.

654
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Guys pretty damn good at this. Yeah. And I always said, yeah, boom,

655
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: here we go. I would love what Mickey said though, too,

656
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: as far as if you knew at the start of

657
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: the season, Okay, this is Jason Witten's last year. Everyone's

658
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: on board with that like a Ray Lewis type situation,

659
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Because I would love to see how this team would

660
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: act and respond to certain things, just because I personally

661
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: have never worked with Jason Witten on any degree, and

662
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: especially not on a football field. But could you imagine

663
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: not playing your best if you ever knew this was

664
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Speaker 1: one of Jason Witten's last games, because you know, just

665
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: the emotion that would draw and everything like that. I

666
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: would love to have something like that. I think would

667
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: be maybe easier for Cowboys. This is gonna sound I

668
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: don't mean to sound disrespectful to you here, but I

669
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: don't think Jason Witten would want that because he doesn't

670
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: want all that. Noah, he doesn't. I mean, I think

671
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Jason Witten has an ego, they all do, but I

672
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: don't think he has it to the point of play

673
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: for me, play for me bit. You know. It's Jason

674
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: Witten has always been about play for yourselves, let's play

675
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: for each other, you know. I think that's something he

676
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: has always done. And if every game was oh, this

677
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: is the last one against the last trip to FedEx,

678
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: last trip to get Yeah, I mean, for him having

679
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: every week stand up there and say, Jason, last think

680
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: of that last trip to MetLife, you know, and well, yeah,

681
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: it is it's last trip. It was it was the

682
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: last trip the week before the fed At, you know,

683
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: and I think I think it would get old for him,

684
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: I really do. I think this this way, to me

685
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: is pretty perfect for Jason Witten because he has it's

686
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: another app opportunity, it's another chapter in his life. You know,

687
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: it's something he can. He can. He closes the door

688
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: on one, he opens the door on another. And he's

689
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: got a good buddy who experienced this last year and

690
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: it's worked out pretty well. Tony Romo. So I don't

691
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: know to trust me to tell him to hurry up

692
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: and make a decision. Yeah, choose your life for our

693
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: for our for our for our purposes. Yeah, choose your

694
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: life now on change it forever. But yes, no, of

695
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: course the Cowboys have already shown some some different movements

696
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: drafting Dalton Schultz. They should have done that even if

697
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: he was coming back. Should like him, the Stanford guy.

698
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: I just they needed another tight end, they rico. No,

699
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: they needed another tight end that play football. Yes, yes,

700
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: we talked to one of the scouts came by and

701
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: said he liked the pick, maybe more than any of them. Sure,

702
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: and the reason was simple because he played at Stanford,

703
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: and they produced tight ends like in the NFL, like

704
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: it's a factory. Yeah, you know, zach Ertz is a

705
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: pretty good one. Played in the Super Bowl and want

706
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. So yeah, we'll see how what a

707
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: ceiling is. But I think they think he's a pretty

708
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: solid guy that might be underrated as a pass catcher. Absolutely.

709
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: I think that if you if you're asking him though,

710
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: too to be a flex or detached player, that's not

711
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: his game. His game is in line why blocking on

712
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: the edge, working with tackles, working working with combo blocks,

713
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: these are all things that he can do. So yeah,

714
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: the right on my board, right where he was taken,

715
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: right there in the fifth round. I thought it was

716
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: a great pick him and the guy Will Disley was

717
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: a guy had mentioned Yevers to Washington I thought were

718
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: the two best block and tight ends in the draft.

719
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: Had him right there with each other, and Disley went

720
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: a round ahead at him. But still Schultz is a

721
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: really really good player. So like his numbers aren't great,

722
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: but that's a Stanford offense, right, I mean, Stanford will

723
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: put as many blockers on the field as they can.

724
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: The quarterback play hasn't been nearly as good as it

725
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: has in the past, so they've had some problems that way.

726
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: But David Shaw is a very physical coach. Their team

727
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: is a very physical coach. They're a very run first team.

728
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: They've got a kid named Love as a running back

729
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: that we're all gonna be talking about next year is

730
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: one of the top running backs. And the they'll be

731
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: in the draft, and so yeah, it's all about it's

732
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: all about really football in a phone booth for those guys.

733
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: Very similar what the Cowboys do. Very run heavy team

734
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: on first down, try and play with some balance, but

735
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: the running aspect of it is the most important thing

736
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: to them. And that's where you have That's where you

737
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: get blocking tight ends and fullbacks and just get a

738
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: complete tight en. Yeah, get Mike Dicko. Yeah don't. Well

739
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: that goes way back. But sorry, well because they don't.

740
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: They don't make those anymos. Jerry Kramer taking a shot

741
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: at the Ice Bowl people. The only guy that understood

742
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: is Ice Bowl comment was Bob Lilly. I think right

743
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: there for me, Yeah, I understand, yeah, you got. I'm

744
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: sorry though, the guy David Akers not impressed, just not impressed.

745
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: It seemed phony. If you if you said if you

746
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: sent their safety, if you sent Brian Dawkins, why did

747
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: they not do that? That's the one I was. They

748
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: probably couldn't get them. You know, I'll tell you what

749
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: you said. They didn't get him to come and do it.

750
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: They brought Rocky in there, Trotter, those were all scary guys.

751
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: That guy was the especially since Trotter's from Texas. Yeah

752
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: and hooks right. The only thing that Drew Pearson really

753
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: said amy at the Eagles fans the year before was

754
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: that he loved them for giving them a career. He

755
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't really like jab them. It was mainly just in

756
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: their city. Yeah, yeah, I just felt like, don't send

757
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: a kicker to do a man's jose. The other the

758
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: other thing is this is why movie sequels aren't as

759
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: good as the original. Right, you can't, you can't, don't.

760
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: You don't even trot it's untouchable. He should have just

761
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: got up there and played it straight like everybody was

762
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: expecting that. Here's the pick. Why didn't you just let

763
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: the best moment of the draft be Ryan Shasier Because

764
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: there's nothing that can even compete against that. You don't

765
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: need to have some silly rivalry moment. Ryan Shazier and

766
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Shack Griffin. They stole the draft in terms of just good,

767
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: feel good moments. Yeah, Phil didn't have their moment. Connor

768
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: Williams your guy. He had some great reaction, probably the

769
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: best reaction we've seen from a draft pick and quite

770
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: some time. Yeah. It was kind of cool though, the

771
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: family that went up there to read Connor's pick. By

772
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, if you remember that the son of

773
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: the soldier, the father was a fallen soldier. Soldier, they

774
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: brought the family out there. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah,

775
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: in the jerseys it looked really sharp. Yeah. Yeah, and

776
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: it was nice that at some point gil Brandt got

777
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: to go out and announce them. Why Gil Brand's not

778
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, I will never know. He's

779
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: done more for football than a lot of guys. And still, yeah,

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00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, for there's a reason there's a reason scouts

781
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: or scouts because of gil brand There's things that he

782
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: did in the sixties that we still do today. Most

783
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: sure vative thinker. Absolutely, you know, we can go on

784
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Speaker 1: and on. Jim Brown was out there, Bob Lilly was

785
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: out there, it was Cherry Kramer. You are you are annoyed,

786
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: all right? When we come back, we will have Rob's

787
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Twitter pool and yes, Mickey did see it today, so

788
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: we will know. We'll all be able to thank God.

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Speaker 1: pizza here? The closest delivery location? Yeah, yeah, we should bill.

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Speaker 1: we gotta bring it? Staying on the draft track, you

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846
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: might have a different I know you like one guy

847
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: who's not on this list. There's only four options. I

848
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: squeeze in five prospects here that they drafted vander Esh,

849
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, Mike Gallup in the third round, and then

850
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: their two fourth round picks. I grouped him together, Doran's Armstrong,

851
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: and we mentioned Schultz. But we can go down the line.

852
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: Anybody else really jump out? You're like wow on the poll, yeah, Pole,

853
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: I voted for Conrad Williams, did you Yeah, Okay, but

854
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Mike White to me is a lottery

855
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: ticket in the fifth round. Lottery ticket. Yeah, five one,

856
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: seventy one. I'm a big, big, big fan of Mike White.

857
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna I think folks are gonna like

858
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: him at the end of the day. Connor Williams makes

859
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I had him on my top

860
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: fifty over vander Esh had went at twenty seven, one

861
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, So yeah, I was the Connor Williams,

862
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: Like Tay said, that's the one that makes a lot

863
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: of sense. You plug him in. You let him play

864
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: the guard spot. Get you back, Rob. You even said

865
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: it yourself, to get you back to the things you

866
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: were doing earlier, you know, running the football, that having

867
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: a solid offensive line. You know, he gives you some

868
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: flexible I wouldn't be surprised if they work him sum

869
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: at center as well, to try and see if he

870
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: could be a backup guy in that spot. But boy,

871
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: what a good athlete, good player too, So very happy

872
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: about the pick. I voted for that one. Tell you

873
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: what I voted for vander Esh And now I agree

874
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: we've all exhausted the points of Connor Williams. I think

875
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: they got a great one at fifty. But vander Esh.

876
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: I spoke with Maryonella yesterday because a lot of people

877
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: kept comparing him to Brian Urlacker, and I wanted to

878
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: know what he thought about that, because of course he

879
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: coached him at the Bears and different things like that.

880
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, he has the potential. You

881
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: can't just put somebody's name and say this is the bright.

882
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: He did not. He did not like to do that

883
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: at all. He said, you know, I'm just saying they

884
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: have similar range, similar traits, but he is not Brian

885
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: or Lacker two point zero. That can't be dawned on

886
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: anyone until they actually play NFL football. And so, you know,

887
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: kind of hearing his analysis of him, you know, talks

888
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: about just the smarts of him, and that's not saying that,

889
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, all these other guys aren't, but the fact

890
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: that he can do this and pick it up quickly

891
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: and seeing what he was able to do at Boise

892
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: stayed and just his body is different than what we've

893
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: seen him with other guys. So we'll see vender ashmick Um.

894
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: I went with the people's choice Connor because I think

895
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: he was a first round pick. Yeah, and you got

896
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: him in the second round. So your question was value, right,

897
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Yes it was. I think that was great value. And

898
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: the fans agree, sixty six percent, say Connor Williams. I

899
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: voted for Gallup because my second choice. There were guys

900
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: in the war room that were down with him at

901
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: fifty yep, and the fact that they liked a bunch

902
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: of receivers yep, and he was They got the last

903
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: one that was still available, and they waited and didn't

904
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: make a trade up. They just stayed and it looked

905
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: out for him at eighty one. They really like him

906
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, so they're really happy with this draft overall.

907
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: And I mean maybe they say that every year, but

908
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: I feel like they got value with some multiple picks here.

909
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: After the guys went down there to the Texas Pro Day,

910
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: we've kind of circled back around to some different scouts

911
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: and I think they were it seemed at least that

912
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: they had always kind of been in agreement that Connor

913
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: Williams wasn't a guy they were going to necessarily go

914
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: after in the first round. Yeah. I felt like though

915
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: that they traded back, that was where it was going

916
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: to come from. I had an idea at nineteen they

917
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: weren't planning. Yeah, at nineteen they were planning on it.

918
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: But if you went back, there were a couple of

919
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: teams there that I felt like that they could go back.

920
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Carolina was one spot, the Saints. I'm surprised the Saints

921
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: came up for a pick, but they went defensive end

922
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: is what they did. So yeah, I shocked everyone. Yeah,

923
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: it was a very shocking move, but that Connor Williams.

924
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: Connor Williams was I'll tell you how special Connor Williams

925
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: was to them. Connor Williams kept them from trading for

926
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. We talked about that. I mean, if you know,

927
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: and they liked, they were willing to do something with

928
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. If if Connor Williams was not on that board,

929
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: I had a feeling that Earl Thomas would would be here.

930
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: But the fact that he was on that board, they

931
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: couldn't pass up that opportunity. So that's why they made

932
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: the pick. Yeah, thank goodness, Nicky's Nicky's a fan. No,

933
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying second round pick for

934
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: Thomas was too much, but they might have done it.

935
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: You're right, they were thinking about it, but it's too much.

936
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: If Connor w wasn't on the board, they were they

937
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: were going to dance that dance. Yeah. Yeah, well I'm

938
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: glad you brought up Mike White. Of course, he is

939
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: the quarterback they picked up from Western Kentucky. Right now,

940
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: their current depth is Dak Prescott, Cooper Rush, and Mike White.

941
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: We haven't kill the more. He's a coach making calls.

942
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: He was he was making calls forgot Dalton Storm that's

943
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: on the undrafted free agent list. Are you he's the

944
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: fourth guy. Yeah, he's too Daltons. That's what the Dalton

945
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: is that everybody starting naming their kids new popular from

946
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: the movie Roadhouse. If you ever remember that Dalton Patrick

947
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 1: saw Brian. What a great reference. But but these people

948
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: that kids didn't know Roadhouse, at this Roadhouse, you know

949
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Damn sure know what you're talking about?

950
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: All right, Mike White, third string QB here, Yeah, we're

951
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna Are they gonna bring any veterans when no, don't

952
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: assume I don't think third yeah, uh oh yeah, is

953
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: here to compete? Is here to compete. Jerry said something interesting,

954
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: and he said this to us all the way back

955
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: at the combine. He'd take a young guy over a veteran.

956
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: And so we saw this kind of coming um the

957
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: thing with him as snaps and this guy's not going

958
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: to get the same number as snaps that Dak Prescott got.

959
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: But Jerry saw the value in a rookie getting as

960
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: many snaps as Dak Gott and and yeah, there go

961
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: the progression he's adding his career versus like a rumo

962
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: who had to sit for three and a half years ago.

963
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: They'd like to just go ahead and invest in a

964
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: young guy I think personally, and I haven't been told this,

965
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: but look, they've tried Weed and they've tried Castle, they've

966
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: tried these guys, and where did it get him? So

967
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: you might as well go job knowell him more. Yeah,

968
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: you might as well just go with a young guy

969
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: and start from scratch and get invest in him and

970
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: in time maybe that could be a backup for you.

971
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: Gee's absolutely right. I'm glad you brought up to Dak Prescott. Jerry.

972
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: Jerry's obsessed. He can't believe Dak got as many snaps

973
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: as he did and what it paid off for them. Yeah. Now,

974
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: of course they don't want Tony to get hurt like

975
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: he did, but it worked out one less preseason game.

976
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, you'll get him some opportunities. I think that's great.

977
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: I think Mike White will come in here. You know,

978
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore went and worked him out and you know

979
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: he was able to. Yeah, he went out there and

980
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: and I was I'm happy they did. I mean, I

981
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: might mean personally had a third round grade on the guy.

982
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: I when you look at the top, say the top

983
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks that went in the draft when it was

984
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, Rose and Jackson, Alan Darnold and Mayfield. I

985
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: don't think Mike White is too terribly down the line.

986
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: I mean I had about a round difference on him.

987
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: But you know what, and I think that they did

988
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: the right thing here. They really really did. And the

989
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: fact they got him in the fifth round I think

990
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: is even better. That you're you're it's a lottery ticket.

991
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: You're trying to you're trying to hit on a guy.

992
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: Mike White has the talent to be a starting quarterback

993
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. He really does. I don't

994
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna be here or somewhere else, but

995
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: he has that talent. Strong. Let the competition begin, Yeah, right, absolutely.

996
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, Yeah, I mean they're not going to just

997
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: hand him the job. Well, you know, if Cooper Rush

998
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: plays like he did last preseason, I think that's a

999
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: good thing too. Yeah, I really do. I mean, I

1000
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I like Cooper Rush was outstanding. That was that was

1001
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: very surprising to me. But but you have to get

1002
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. What happened to him? He got snaps, Yes,

1003
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: he got a lot of snaps. Let's see if they

1004
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: get you know, let's see if we have Mike why

1005
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush gets uh half a game and Mike White

1006
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: gets the other half of the game. So I did

1007
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: think they're going to divvy up the snaps since you've

1008
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: got so many new receivers for these preseason games. So

1009
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: Dak does need snaps with them, but you don't want

1010
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: to over expose them. So you would like to play

1011
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: these young guys. But on the other hand, you know

1012
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: he needs to play in that one like Zeke, it

1013
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, right, I think both Scarborough better get ready

1014
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: to go leading rush for preseason. Yeah, he better be

1015
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: ready to go to work, right, They're gonna wear him out. Yeah,

1016
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: because even I think Jason John yea, he made reference

1017
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: to Zeke. Yeah, well you know he's not gonna get

1018
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, so uh yeah, Scarborough and Trey Williams

1019
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: get ready, Yeah, gig him, gig him indeed and roll tide,

1020
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: both of them. You guys. That does Brian still doesn't

1021
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: have a team yet. Um not really, I think does timing,

1022
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean reports does looking for that one year deal,

1023
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: bet on himself and cash in next year right next week? Yeah,

1024
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, we get we get to may people get

1025
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: to OTAs, they get through some OTAs, get through rookie camps.

1026
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Everybody can sit back now and look at their boards

1027
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, we're really going to go to camp

1028
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: with this? Do we really want to? This is you know,

1029
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of when guys were added, like

1030
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are linebacker from Alabama was added, I believe

1031
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: in June. Oh yeah, Rondo McClane. Yeah, sure, yeah, he

1032
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: was added in June. You know, sometimes you sit down

1033
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: and does is trying to be really he's trying to

1034
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: be focused on Okay, I'd like a one year deal.

1035
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: I'd like to do that. You know. He's because the

1036
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: reports you're talking about a Ravens had offered him that

1037
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: multi year right, yeah, And so he's very specific where

1038
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: he wants to go, and some teams gonna settle in

1039
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: and say, okay, you know, now we can make a sign.

1040
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: It'll probably be a very quiet day in June when

1041
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: we're all sitting around and together. Oh at lunch and

1042
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: oh look, jes Briant, you know, oh we gotta go

1043
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: to work. Yeah, des Bryant got a job. So I

1044
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: don't think it's a problem right now, because I've been

1045
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: in that room. You start looking at, Okay, where are

1046
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: we deficihing on our team. Where can we help our team?

1047
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: Des Brian would be a very good help for somebody

1048
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: right now. Agreed, Yeah, you do start looking at that.

1049
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: It's just you're right. I think the focus that I'm

1050
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: seeing at least is just through social media. Guys are

1051
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: trying to catch their breath right now. They really are.

1052
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: I looked. I walked by Will McClay at breakfast this morning,

1053
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: and I talked about him because we asked about it.

1054
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: I suppose jersey number We were looking for a picture

1055
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: of him at Rice. What jersey was? He goes he

1056
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: was number one, So we're just talking about but well,

1057
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: he looked he looked just so just like he was

1058
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: trying to catch his breath. He was sitting there eating

1059
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: an omelet and just by himself. He was just sitting

1060
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: by him and yeah, you know, and in that job

1061
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: you don't do you don't get to be by yourself

1062
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: very much, you really don't. And he looked like he

1063
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: was enjoyed sitting there with the sauce on the omelet.

1064
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: And just when I walked up to talk to me,

1065
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: he was like looking at me, like, what are you

1066
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: gonna ask me? You know, when I just knew better

1067
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask. I'm not gonna ask, but he but

1068
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: he just looked very at peace with himself and they'll

1069
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: all catch their breath and get back on that horse

1070
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: here coming up in jew He's like, I got you,

1071
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, just leave me a lot. Yeah. I was

1072
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: happy about happy about Mike White. I told him, Hey,

1073
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: way to go, Mike White. He goes, Yeah. We liked

1074
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: him a lot, We really really did. So we'll see. Yeah,

1075
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: and I love it. Last year was the Michigan Draft.

1076
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: You know, they drafted those teammates out of Michigan, and

1077
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: then this year it seems like it's gonna be the

1078
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: Boise State one because said Wilson gets to join his

1079
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: guy vander esh Lve is what we're calling him on

1080
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: certain things we gotta work on. That's wrong with that

1081
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: l That's what they called him all throughout college. Yeah,

1082
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't roll off the tongue now. No guy said

1083
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: it last night, right, Yeah, he asked us a question.

1084
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: He called him lv Oh. I haven't been calling him

1085
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: like a nickname. Now he called that, but I understand

1086
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: exactly who he was asking about. Yeah, we need something, Vandy. Nah,

1087
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: let's let's pronounce the initials like will. Let's like let

1088
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: things kind of a little. We'll figure something LV. It

1089
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 1: doesn't have a ring. We got a long plane flight

1090
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: coming up. We'll figure out something about it when you

1091
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: get off that plane. I expect something from you guys.

1092
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: And we're looking at, you know, kind of the youth

1093
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: movement of our team, and I think Nick had pulled

1094
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: together kind of a list of just from March first

1095
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: to May first, the ten ten year Cowboys we have

1096
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: on this team still and you know Olph sitting right there.

1097
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: But it really did change. And Sean Lee now is

1098
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: going to find himself in that makeshift Witten role. I

1099
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: mean he already was essentially, but huh, well, if we

1100
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: got breaking news here, didn't Mickey just say it's a deal.

1101
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: He shouldn't refuse. I said that. I said, if it

1102
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: was me, I would go take the money night football job.

1103
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: But that's me. If Witton decides to hang up the cleats,

1104
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: Sean Lee will essentially be the main main main Dak.

1105
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah voice that means da will need to step up.

1106
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: Now this is about you know, this is a Byron Jones.

1107
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: This is important year for Dak. You know, in a

1108
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: lot of ways. I think that now it's there's are

1109
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: certain voices that are long longer, and you can say

1110
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: what you want about me Scandrick getting getting along at all,

1111
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: but Scandrick was a voice in that room, you know,

1112
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: and Amazon all or nothing. Yeah, and you know, so

1113
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: that that means if he's a voice and that's gone.

1114
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: And Witten one moment did yeah in three game losing

1115
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: stream and he looked at the camera after he said it,

1116
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: like I know you're filming me there, Yeah, come on, yeah,

1117
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: Like hey, but if you did see I don't know

1118
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: how many people have seen it. You know, Witten holds

1119
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: a quick meeting with the captains at the start of

1120
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, right after it was announced, and it's like,

1121
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: what guy's going to do that? I hope it's Dak Yeah. Yeah, Well,

1122
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick could be a guy too that could be

1123
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 1: very very vocal, made a vocal guy on defense. Yeah,

1124
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: other than Sean Lee in case he's not Crawford DeMarcus Lawrence.

1125
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: Well if he if he wants to assume that role,

1126
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he has the kid. He may be more

1127
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: of an example, but everybody else're still trying to prove themselves. Yeah,

1128
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have to be so vocal.

1129
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: If that's not, you just follow my lead, follow what

1130
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: I do out there, you know, And I think I

1131
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: think lawrences are in that type of leadership. That's the

1132
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: Damn Bailey rule. Yeah, that's the damn Bailey rule. Same thing.

1133
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: They didn't draft a kicker bring anyone in yet. So

1134
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: see this you about leadership role, How about Jalen Smith?

1135
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: Does that mean that? Does that make if he's if

1136
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: he's playing at a high level, yes, I mean he's,

1137
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: but people look at him as a guy who's overcomes

1138
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: so much to be where he writes. Yeah, and all

1139
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I think you have respect. You mentioned

1140
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: about Griffin. I think Griffin's gonna go to Seattle as

1141
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: brothers there in aw But I think people can respect

1142
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: the story. I think they're gonna respect the player that

1143
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: what he's overcome. I think Jaalen Smith could be that

1144
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: type of guy. I think Jalen Smith could be we

1145
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: always see a smile on his face kind of guy,

1146
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: but maybe a guy that has some leadership qualities to him,

1147
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: kind of bring people together. Well, I just think it's

1148
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: got to be somebody that it knows how to interact

1149
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: with the players and not be so caught up with

1150
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: taking care of yourself right. And there's so many guys

1151
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: on that defense that are just like, Okay, I'm trying

1152
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: to win a starting job here. Tyrone has been one

1153
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: of those guys for a while now. Um, I think

1154
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence is kind of go back to him. I think

1155
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: he's kind of moving. He showed guys a lot. I

1156
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: think he earned a lot of respect playing through that

1157
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: back injury a couple of years ago. So that's another

1158
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: one for me. But although there's the way this roster's

1159
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: turned over, there's not many guys that remember him doing that. No,

1160
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: a lot of young dvs on this team think about it.

1161
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: That was like what four years three years ago? Yeah,

1162
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 1: it's there's it's turned It's gonna be a different locker room. Yeah,

1163
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: for sure, it's gonna be a different. But I I

1164
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: look at I look at guys like Sean Lee. I

1165
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: think Sean Lee is a lae. We don't see Sean Lee.

1166
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: We see the emotion and all about the passion. I

1167
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: think you'll see that with his teammates and locker rooms

1168
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: and stuff. But I think it really is going to

1169
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: come on Dak Prescott. I think Dak Prescott needs to

1170
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: figure out maybe he needs to do some things that

1171
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe to be opposite. And you guys might not agree

1172
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: with me on this, but needs to be opposite a

1173
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: little bit of what Tony Romo did in his career.

1174
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: And I mean this in a way of Tony I

1175
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: think had respect, but I don't know if he had

1176
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: everybody's attention. And I think Dak needs to take a

1177
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: page out of take an opposite approach and try and

1178
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, and I think about John kittena and this

1179
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: is gonna sound crazy. I think about John Kitten in

1180
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: the way that John Kitten. Everybody loved John Kitten in

1181
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: that locker room. The guys who played dominoes played dominoes

1182
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: with him, The guys that went to the Bible study

1183
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: went to Bible study with him. He was one of

1184
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: those guys as a quarterback, even as a backup, that

1185
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: just brought everybody together. And I think Dak Prescott needs

1186
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: to figure out how to be I think Tony became

1187
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: a little more removed the further he went along, the

1188
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: more removed. It's like he became over here where you know,

1189
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: they needed somebody that was centrally located in the middle

1190
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: of all that, and I feel like Dak doesn't need

1191
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: to make that mistake. Don't remove yourself, try and find

1192
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: a way to immerse yourself and what everybody's trying to do.

1193
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: The players that want to play dominoes, the players that

1194
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: want to go to Bible study, the players that want

1195
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: to do everything, the players that want to play laundry basketball. Yeah, no,

1196
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think Tony drifted and he

1197
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: tried to come back late in the game. It was

1198
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: a little problem because early, yeah, he had that role.

1199
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: Sure they were rallying around him right right, and then

1200
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: he got some of that just getting older, you have kids, kids,

1201
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:53,320
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