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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome man, everybody, Fox Football Sunday. Mark Willard is out

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Speaker 2: aeron Torres alongside he from Salam.

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Speaker 1: Where is mar? Where is he? Right?

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Speaker 2: So it's crazy because I think you were on a

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Speaker 2: different shift last year. Yes, but Mark Willard, Uh, he

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Speaker 2: covers the forty nine ers on his day to day basis.

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Speaker 2: So this shift last year I filled in and I

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Speaker 2: was under the assumption, Oh, you know, he's he's a

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Speaker 2: proud forty nine ers beat writer and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: not a beat writer, but he hosts radio in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: He's got to be on front of the TV with

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Speaker 2: a notepad and dependent paper and talking to sources. Then

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Speaker 2: I get a call this week from our boss, Scott Shapiro,

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Speaker 2: and I'm privileged to be here with you.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love being here with you.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, is are they are the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers playing now?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a more Mark type of

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Speaker 4: thing in terms of work ethic, you know, I just

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Speaker 4: I think he just wanted to watch the I'm just teasing.

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Speaker 4: He say he's got no work ethics. The JaMarcus Russell. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: Mark is my guy. We go way way way way back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Mark Willard is out. Aaron Torres in alongside

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Speaker 2: is out and we know he's busting his button. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna be back next week, but we got a talkie

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Speaker 2: from so First of all, everybody knows by now early

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Speaker 2: game has been final for a while. Philadelphia fifty five

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Speaker 2: Washington twenty three. We'll get to that momentarily. But the

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Speaker 2: story right now. In the NFL, the much anticipated fourth

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Speaker 2: matchup of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: First three went to Patrick Mahomes, but we sat there

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Speaker 2: and said, no, this year is gonna be different. Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen MVP caliber season. Maybe he wins it, maybe he

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Speaker 2: does it. They just beat the Ravens in a matchup

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Speaker 2: of the presumptive two MVP favorites. Oh, this year is

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Speaker 2: going to be so different. I know it is currently

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Speaker 2: twenty one to ten. We are under two minutes in

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Speaker 2: the first half. Kansas City leads a big kickoff return

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Speaker 2: was just set up the latest latest score by the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honesty from slim.

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Speaker 2: Do you know CPR because I'm watching on TV and

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Speaker 2: the Bills are choking right now?

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Speaker 3: What is going on with this team? What do you say?

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Speaker 1: Look?

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Speaker 4: And this speaks to the playoffs. And once let me

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Speaker 4: apologize for my voice. Everybody who's listened to me over

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Speaker 4: the years knows what time of year it is. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm a coach, oh okay, okay, So I coach basketball, okay,

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Speaker 4: and what is chet number one?

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Speaker 1: I coached up? I don't want to pull but I

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Speaker 1: coach in the area.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I coach at the Wreck because I still think quality

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Speaker 4: coaches should, you know, put their efforts in their time

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Speaker 4: at the Wreck. I think that's very important. It's normally

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Speaker 4: dads just volunteering, maybe have never played before, but they

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Speaker 4: want their sons to play. And it's not a lot

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Speaker 4: of coaches that volunteer.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers coach came straight from the rec center, so

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Speaker 2: you know, might be in the NBA this time next.

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Speaker 4: Year, I can coach an NBA team, And so this

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Speaker 4: time of year my voice, Okay, I did not know

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Speaker 4: that it's difficult. I don't want to say yelling at

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Speaker 4: nine and ten year old, yelling aggressively speaking sure, because

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Speaker 4: anybody who has a nine or ten year old boy

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Speaker 1: So now I do twofold.

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Speaker 4: Now I coach over where I coach at the Wreck,

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Speaker 4: which I love, and then now I'm coaching our assistant

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Speaker 4: coaching at AAU organization, and we had a big tournament

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Speaker 4: in Still Beach this weekend. So I've coached six games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I coached six games this weekend, including our rec game.

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Speaker 4: And so my voice is it's at the gym.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay. But to answer your.

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Speaker 4: Uh, your question about what's going on here, look in order,

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Speaker 4: and this goes throughout the playoffs, especially in the championship game,

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Speaker 4: and we'll talk about the earlier game earlier. In order

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Speaker 4: to win these games, you must almost be perfect, yep.

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Speaker 4: And as soon as you start making mistakes, and it

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Speaker 4: kickoff return, a punt return. All of those are mistakes, fumbles.

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Speaker 4: We saw a lot of that or in the earlier game,

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Speaker 4: miscues the team that and it's easy to say, it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: that's easy from that's not everybody knows that, Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: there's nuance to it. And normally the team, the home

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Speaker 4: to travel. Everything that they've done this week has been

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Speaker 4: the same for them. That's where the advantage comes from.

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Speaker 4: The crowd is the crowd. It gets loud, but at

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Speaker 4: this point, everybody on the field has played in front

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Speaker 4: on experience. When I was a rookie, we played in

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Speaker 4: the NFC Championship game against the Minnesota Vikings ninety eight

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Speaker 4: and you're right, what a game. One of the greatest

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Speaker 4: games in championship games ever. And so we knew how

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Speaker 4: loud it was. And this is as I put up

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Speaker 4: my air quotes, this is when they were pumping crowd

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Speaker 4: noise into the stadium. So it was the loudest stadium

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Speaker 4: in the NFL, and so we knew all year, excuse me,

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Speaker 4: all week prior that we were going to go on

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Speaker 4: silent count. There was no verbal communication on the field

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Speaker 4: for us. We were already locked into that. So the

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Speaker 4: crowd it was ancillary. It didn't bother us. Sure we

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Speaker 4: ended up winning that game, but I say that to

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Speaker 4: say we didn't have any turnovers. They did right as

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Speaker 4: matter of fact, at the end of the half, they

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Speaker 4: were up. We sack fumbled them and then went in

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Speaker 4: and scored a touchdown to change the whole trajectory of

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Speaker 4: that game. The team that really locks in is the

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Speaker 4: team ninety nine times out of one hundred is the

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Speaker 4: team that'll come out ahead. And we've seen some miscues,

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Speaker 4: we've seen penalties. Those kill you. Sure, penalties kill you.

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Speaker 4: Even if you turn the ball over one time, you

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Speaker 4: I mean on the road against could go down as

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Speaker 4: one of the greatest runs for an NFL team. With

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Speaker 4: how could you expect to win? I don't care what

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Speaker 3: No, it's totally fair.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, for people just joining us, casey

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Speaker 2: twenty one to ten, Bills have the ball with thirty

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Speaker 2: five seconds to go, they are inside their own territory

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Speaker 2: trying to get towards the red zone here betrayal twenty

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this because one of my big takeaways.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, it does listen clearly anyone who's

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Speaker 2: became whatever. What I know, it's crazy, you know, five ten,

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Speaker 2: you know whatever. But you know, as long as you're fan,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say five to one, five two forty.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been timed in a minute.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this though, cause I look

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Speaker 2: at you know, listen, I just what I always try

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Speaker 2: it's the Bills time, and it's the Bills this, and

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Speaker 2: it's the Bills that, and it might be looks like so,

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Speaker 2: by the way, we do have a touchdown catch good, gracious,

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Speaker 2: there is a flag on the field. It could very

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Speaker 2: well beat will be here Mac Collins, who, of course,

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Speaker 2: last week Will mac Collins wide receiver. He was a

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Speaker 2: guy who walked in in sandals or I think he

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Speaker 3: But that looks like it will be a touchdown assuming

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Speaker 3: it didn't hit the ground. It didn't hit the ground,

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Speaker 2: Let's see here maccollins deep pass.

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Speaker 1: Right before the half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I think that will be good.

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Speaker 2: We're waiting on a penalty, but it does look like

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be defensive pass interference. Chiefs are up twenty

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Speaker 2: one to ten. There's under thirty seconds left in the

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Speaker 2: first half, so this would be monumental, huge going into halftime,

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Speaker 2: into halftime for the Buffalo Bills if the play stands,

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Speaker 2: and it will so, we do, in fact have a

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Speaker 2: touchdown to cut the score to twenty one seventeen. The

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Speaker 2: extra point is good Casey up twenty one to seventeen

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Speaker 3: There is a flag on the field.

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Speaker 2: Also kind of important, by the way, because Kansas City

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Speaker 2: like the penalty will be on Kansas City, so the

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Speaker 2: extra point will be good. Buffalo trailing twenty one seventeen.

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Speaker 2: It was off sides on Kansas City. So Kansas City

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Speaker 4: They are I think they're electing to take oh the

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Speaker 3: Oh god, don't now.

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Speaker 4: Now this goes against convention on traditional wisdom.

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Speaker 1: Never take points off the board.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: So unless you have a chance to go for six

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Speaker 4: opposed to the three, right like if you yeah, you

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Speaker 4: get what I'm saying, of course, but you don't chase

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Speaker 4: one point. Yeah, you don't chase one point. So and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna see what happens. So yes, twenty one sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, I don't think they cant it.

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Speaker 1: No, they didn't get it.

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Speaker 4: My goodness, I saw that coming as we were speaking.

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Speaker 4: You never chase a point when it's on the board.

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Speaker 4: Always take the point. Always.

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Speaker 2: Score is twenty one sixteen, twenty three seconds to go.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo just scored with twenty three seconds left in the

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Speaker 2: first half. Kick the extra point. There is an off

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Speaker 2: side's call on Kansas City. Sean McDermott to Ephram's point

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Speaker 2: immediately calls for let's go for two. I hated it

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Speaker 2: in real time. Let me so, this was the point

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Speaker 2: I was going to get to before the MATC Collins

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Speaker 2: touchdown catch is I think that if you and you

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Speaker 2: and Mark were on during the Ravens game last week,

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Speaker 2: right and so, like I said, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: want to dismiss it either, And so I think there

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Speaker 2: were a lot of people that coming into these playoffs

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Speaker 2: felt like it was either Baltimore's time or it was

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's time. Kansas City has been struggling all year. They're

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Speaker 2: not the same team, but they're struggling relative to how

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Speaker 2: I bring it up because when I watched that Buffalo

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Speaker 2: They played well the first half, yes, but Mark Andrews

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Speaker 2: What I'll say, all I hate is again never played

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Speaker 2: It is officially halftime. Twenty one to sixteen is the score.

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Speaker 2: Casey was up twenty one to ten. Buffalo scored with

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday aeron

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Speaker 2: Torres and E from Salam. Mark Willard is out today

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Speaker 2: twenty one to sixteen. So it's interesting, Epan, because you

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Speaker 2: for you and maybe listen, this is not what mattered

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Speaker 2: Washington loses to Philadelphia fifty five to twenty three. Bring

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Speaker 2: it up since we're on this topic, what did you

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Speaker 2: make of first drive of the game, eighteen plays, fifty

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Speaker 2: They convert two fourth downs, but then elect to kick

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Speaker 1: The first fourth down, I get it.

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Speaker 4: You're on the you know, plus side, and you're right

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Speaker 4: I'm like, ugh, take the points. They get it. The

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Speaker 4: I actually agree with you on you one hundred Do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're at the table. Eventually you're gonna go broke.

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Speaker 1: Sure, But I know, look, hey, I'm not one of

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Speaker 2: Gonna say, like, you play, you played in the pre

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Speaker 3: But if it's fourth and two, we always go for it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not anti analytics, and I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: None of this.

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Speaker 4: that's what we're gonna do. We're a four down team,

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Speaker 2: Well, remember, I mean this was the night that I

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Speaker 4: And so I get it. You're trying to get more possessions.

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Speaker 2: Four turnovers for Washington, three of them led directly to touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Roy Lions aren't here.

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Speaker 4: That's why the Detroit Lions aren't here. Right, So there's

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Speaker 3: Now we're kicking it over to the news desk.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 6: I'll happily accept. We'll get to details from Kansas City

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Speaker 6: and a woman. They have just started the second half.

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Speaker 6: Chiefs up twenty one to sixteen on the bill. What

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Speaker 6: you just mentioned that long drive to open the NFC

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Speaker 6: Championship Game eighteen play drive for Washington, the field goal

443
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Speaker 6: the early three to nothing lead, and then yes, one

444
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Speaker 6: play touchdown for the Eagles, sixty yard run for Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 6: And then how did the offense do for Philly the

446
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Speaker 6: rest of the game when they got in the red zone?

447
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Speaker 6: Seven for seven on red zone touchdowns the rest of

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Speaker 6: the day, so eight tds total a fifty five to

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Speaker 6: twenty three victory over Washington, which ends its season at

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Speaker 6: fourteen and six. The Eagles at home finished up ten

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Speaker 6: to one, seventeen and three overall. Now Saquon Barkley three

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Speaker 6: touchdown runs on only fifteen carries. He had one hundred

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Speaker 6: and eighteen yards this fifty five point day from Philadelphia,

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Speaker 6: most points ever by a team in a conference title game.

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Speaker 6: The Eagles turned four turnovers from Washington into four touchdown drives,

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Speaker 6: commanders with nine penalties as well as for the AFC

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Speaker 6: Championship game, it is a Chief's lead at home Kansas

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Speaker 6: City nine and oh at home this year sixteen and

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Speaker 6: two overall and as far as the stat leaders, Xavier Worthy,

460
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Speaker 6: young receiver for the Chiefs, been targeted five times, have

461
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Speaker 6: five catches sixty two yards and a TD. Josh Allen

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Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty yards passing in the first half

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Speaker 6: and one touchdown, a thirty four yard toss to Mac

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Speaker 6: Collins with under thirty seconds left. They went for two

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Speaker 6: and the run was stopped. So that's why it's twenty

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Speaker 6: one sixteen Kansas City in the lead. The Bills beat

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Speaker 6: Kansas City in November. That was in Buffalo. Chiefs had

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Speaker 6: been nine and oh in the season at that point,

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Speaker 6: temperature in the twenties for the Eagles. We didn't have

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Speaker 6: snow in that game. Earlier today and temperatures were much

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Speaker 6: more comfortable around forty. Super Bowl two weeks away indoors

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Speaker 6: in New Orleans. The lone NBA game tonight is now final.

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma City wins at Portland won eighteen to one oh eight.

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Speaker 6: OKSE is thirty seven and eight on the season. Shay

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Speaker 6: Gil just Alexander with thirty five points. College basketball victories

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Speaker 6: in the top twenty five for Illinois, Wisconsin and Memphis NHL.

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Speaker 6: Among the five games, Colorado a five to four winner

478
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Speaker 6: at the Rangers, Minnesota Wild leading three nothing at Chicago

479
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Speaker 6: in the second. In tennis number one, Yanick Center won

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Speaker 6: a second straight Australian Open final. The Seahawks new defensive

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Speaker 6: coordinator is Clint Kubiak from New Orleans. Eagles offensive coordinator

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Speaker 6: Kellen Moore will interview for the Saints head coach opening.

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Speaker 6: The Titans are hiring former Raiders GM Dave Zigglers assistant

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Speaker 6: general manager according to NFL Network, and defensive coordinator Jim

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Speaker 6: Knowles is leaving Ohio State for Penn State. He's now

486
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Speaker 6: the highest paid DC in the country. Back to you,

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much, Steve Disager. This is Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Sunday Air. Tor is in for Mark Willard

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Speaker 6: alongside e from salam all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Ifrohen, we didn't really necessarily talk about the early game,

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Speaker 2: by the way, as the segre just told you, early

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Speaker 2: second half, Kansas City does have the ball. Twenty one

493
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Speaker 2: to sixteen is the score in Kansas City again, early

494
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Speaker 2: second half. Will keep you updated as that game continues.

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Speaker 2: So first game, as the Sagred has told you, monster,

496
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Speaker 2: you know, record setting day for Philadelphia, fifty five total points.

497
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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, another insane game, three rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Just did you.

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Speaker 2: But first of all, let me ask you this, did

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Speaker 2: you have any big strong take about like Saquon in

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Speaker 2: the MVP race.

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Speaker 3: And I'll just oh, okay, because I I think.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna agree on this. Go go ahead, because I

504
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Speaker 2: have not heard this, but I want to hear. I

505
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Speaker 2: know the audience might have, but I'm curious.

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Speaker 4: The only way someone outside of a quarterback has a

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Speaker 4: shot of winning MVP is if they do something that

508
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Speaker 4: is rarely done. Sure, like break a record that's been

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Speaker 4: around for forty years. Sure, sure, right, break the all

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Speaker 4: time single season receiving record. Right, So Saquon was on

511
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Speaker 4: the cusp. I think it was a undred and eleven

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Speaker 4: yards away from doing something, breaking a record that was

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Speaker 4: forty years that is forty years old. If Sakwon Barkley

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Speaker 4: plays that last game, they get the Russian record. One

515
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Speaker 4: hundred percent. He's the league's MVP. And I'll tell you

516
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Speaker 4: why this team, Philadelphia, despite what you may think of

517
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Speaker 4: their coach, are winning.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: Nick Sirianna has been on the hot seat. He was

520
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: in the middle of a nine game win streak and

521
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: people were calling for his head. He doesn't know how

522
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Speaker 4: to bet the fans he's doing that. He could do

523
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Speaker 4: nothing wrong, nothing right, excuse me, except when these games,

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Speaker 4: Except when the games I know, and so the fact

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Speaker 4: that Saquon Barkley has come to a team that fell

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Speaker 4: apart second half of last year stabilized them.

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Speaker 1: We have receivers.

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Speaker 4: Reading books on the side line because they're unhappy even

529
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Speaker 4: though they're.

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Speaker 1: On a nine to ten game win streak.

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Speaker 4: So to me, on top of that, what he's meant

532
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Speaker 4: to that team if he breaks that record held by

533
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Speaker 4: ed Eric Dickerson, then one hundred percent, in my mind,

534
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Speaker 4: he deserves to be the MVP of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So it's like, you're in my head and you're

536
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Speaker 3: reading my mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm in there.

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Speaker 2: That's what when you come in here with me, that's

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Speaker 2: what happens. It's insane. It's insane because so my take

540
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Speaker 2: is I don't care that he didn't break the record

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Speaker 2: because he could have broken the record, But the right

542
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: thing to do, the team first thing to do was

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Speaker 2: not only for him to sit out, because that was

544
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Speaker 2: the dumb thing about that conversation was people were like, well,

545
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Speaker 2: I mean, like, I don't know where you like stood

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Speaker 2: on that whole thing, but I just it was like

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Speaker 2: a four day talking point and I was like, I

548
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: don't really get it. It's like, if if Saquan's gonna play.

549
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Speaker 2: That means that all of the starters have to play.

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Speaker 2: You're not putting him behind a backup O line.

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Speaker 1: You're not.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Hurts was obviously out with the concussion.

553
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Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't make sense so to me

554
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Speaker 2: not getting the record because they had nothing to play for.

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Speaker 2: I'm not disregarding what you said, but this has been

556
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Speaker 2: my point. So so I don't have a vote among

557
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Speaker 2: I'm sharing all the things I don't have. I'm not

558
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Speaker 2: six foot six, I don't run a four five forty.

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Speaker 2: I don't have an MVP vote. It would have been

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Speaker 2: Saquon for all of the reasons that you said. And

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Speaker 2: this is no disrespect to Lamar Jackson, this is no

562
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Speaker 2: disrespect to Josh Allen. They've been great, they will be great,

563
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Speaker 2: all of that. But as you said, Saquon changed everything

564
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Speaker 2: in that organization. It's easy to forget now. They fell

565
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Speaker 2: apart last year down the stretch. Nick Sirianni, you know

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Speaker 2: you could say even forget this season. If you remember

567
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Speaker 2: back to last year, there were people like should they

568
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Speaker 2: fire Sirianni and hire bela check at this time last year,

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Speaker 2: so Saquon comes in, there's no disrespect Jalen Hurts isn't better. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, but the Jalen Hurts another due The point

571
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is it changed everything. It takes

572
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Speaker 2: pressure off of Jalen Hurts. It's taken pressure off of

573
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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianna. He saved everybody in and that building's job,

574
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Speaker 2: except for obviously Howie Roseman, who's a rock star, because

575
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: every guy on that team is awesome. But the point

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Speaker 2: I'm making is, remember they fell apart last year. They

577
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Speaker 2: changed the offensive coordinator, they changed the defensive coordinator, and

578
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Speaker 2: all of it was on the line if Saquon doesn't

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Speaker 2: have the season that Saquon does so so I'm so glad.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said it because you agree with me,

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Speaker 2: But I just I didn't understand why it defaults to

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Speaker 2: you just can't give it to.

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Speaker 1: A running back.

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Speaker 3: Why not he's the most valuable player?

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Speaker 4: Yeah that you know that notion is so short sighted

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Speaker 4: And I get this become a quarterback league, so of

587
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: course the people who can throw for fifty five hundred

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Speaker 4: yards and you know, forty fifty touchdowns, we didn't have

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Speaker 4: one of those this year. So I'm looking at what

590
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: happened to the team he left, and what happened to

591
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Speaker 4: the team he joined His.

592
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: Former GM became a meme all season long.

593
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: That'll let you know just how valuable he is to

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Speaker 4: any team he leaves and arrives at. And it played

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Speaker 4: out for all of us to see. Now, I want

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Speaker 4: to go back to what you said about you are

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Speaker 4: happy or you agreed with him not taking that record

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Speaker 4: as an offensive lineman for thirteen years, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty whatever game, sixty games.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: If we're on the last game, we have what we've done,

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Speaker 4: our work, it's locked up, and we have a chance

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Speaker 4: to get that record. Really, I'm not doing the lane Johnson.

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Speaker 4: What I'm doing is going to Nick Sirianni and I'm saying, hey, man,

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Speaker 4: this means something interesting.

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Speaker 3: You're doing the rooty, You're going to the jersey. You're

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Speaker 3: going you're put in your jersey on the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because now that team, that offensive line, that running

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Speaker 4: back now goes to Canton. Interest now is we don't

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Speaker 4: get any fanfare? Sure interesting, we don't get any Oh

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Speaker 4: hey no, no, no, no, right, yeah, there's no record

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Speaker 4: to be a part of something that's still for forty years.

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Speaker 4: Sure we won't see this next year. This is a

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Speaker 4: one of one in his career. And the reason I

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Speaker 4: know that is because it's been forty years sure, never

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Speaker 4: been number four. And so it's a situation where I'm like, nah, man,

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Speaker 4: and I know we can get it in one half.

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Speaker 4: If we go out here, they're not going to win

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Speaker 4: the game, They're going to get the record. Sure, if

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Speaker 4: we go out here, get our work done early, then

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Speaker 4: we can go on in the second half, put our

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Speaker 4: hats on, celebrate something that hasn't been done.

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Speaker 1: None of the players were alive. Sure when it happened.

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Speaker 4: I was eight, right, So that's the difference for me

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Speaker 4: as an offensive lineman being on the cusp of doing

626
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Speaker 4: something that great. I'm going to say, kwan and I'm like, yo, man,

627
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 4: you deserve this. You deserve to be there. Remember Adrian

628
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: Peterson almost did it? Yeah, then he disappeared. You're right,

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Speaker 4: think about that ap almost did. I think it was

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Speaker 4: like fifty nine yards away or whatever it was. Then

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Speaker 4: it just went away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean at that position, you just you never do.

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Speaker 2: I look at Chrisian McCaffrey las year versus this year.

635
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Speaker 1: You gotta take it now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally farewell. Philadelphia Eagles took it now. They did

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Speaker 2: beat the Washington Commanders fifty five to twenty three. We'll

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Speaker 2: come back and discuss more of that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: earl third quarter in Kansas City, Kansas City up twenty

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Speaker 2: one to sixteen. Buffalo did force a punt on the

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Speaker 2: opening drive for the Kansas City Chiefs. Buffalo has the

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Speaker 2: ball inside their own fifty. We'll see if they can

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Speaker 2: cash in. We'll come back continue the conversation about the

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Speaker 2: Commander's Eagles game. As the Eagles are headed to their

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Speaker 2: second Super Bowl in three years, We'll see if Kansas

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Speaker 2: City joins them or if Buffalo gets back to its

647
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Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aeron Torres filling in

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Speaker 2: for Mark Willard alongside e from salam And we do

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Speaker 2: have an update in Kansas City. Buffalo has taken a

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Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty lead. They don't make it easy

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Speaker 2: from Salaam. They get down to the goal line, a

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Speaker 2: couple players get stuffed at the goal line. They run

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Speaker 2: an option to James Cook on the outside, an incredible

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Speaker 2: effort to take the lead twenty two to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Of course, because they decided not to kick the pat

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Speaker 2: in the first half, they then go for two. They

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Speaker 2: do not get the two. So the positive for people

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Speaker 2: who are driving around Buffalo has taken a twenty two

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Speaker 2: to twenty one lead, but they kicked the pat before half.

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Speaker 2: There was a penalty. They decided instead to go for two.

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Speaker 2: They did not get it, and they did not get

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Speaker 2: it again. And they have left a lot of points

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Speaker 2: on the field, which you don't want to do against Patrick.

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Speaker 4: No, you got because at the end of this thing,

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Speaker 4: we'll be looking back and be like, hey, man, if

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Speaker 4: they would have took that field goal or that extra point,

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Speaker 4: and then the second extra point they lost by one.

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Speaker 4: But then I never want to be the person you

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Speaker 4: are the coach. That's like if in basketball, if you

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Speaker 4: can go to the free the line and you score

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Speaker 4: but bucket and it was like, oh, it's a violation

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Speaker 4: on them over there will give you, you know, another

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Speaker 4: possession opposed to the point.

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Speaker 1: She was like, oh, give me the possession now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, give me the points. No.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing too, This isn't Week four. This

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Speaker 2: is the freaking as this is it. That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And and listen, I don't want to be negative because.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, because negative is fine.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's because I think it's reality is I

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Speaker 2: understand you have the lead in the AFC Championship game,

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Speaker 2: but if you had just kicked the first extra point,

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Speaker 2: you did kick the first extra point, if you had

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Speaker 2: just let it go, it's now you kick the extra point. Here,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty four to twenty one. That's a completely different

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Speaker 2: game than than twenty two twenty one. Obviously, Chiefs getting

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Speaker 2: the ball back here with about three minutes to go.

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Speaker 4: And we've seen what Patrick Mahomes can do down one

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Speaker 4: or two thirteen second flaf What I'm said, good lord,

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Speaker 4: if that doesn't make you take every point you can,

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Speaker 4: then you're not paying attention.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be preemptive here, and I don't

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Speaker 2: want to have gone in with this thought.

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Speaker 1: I know how this thing is going to shake out,

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Speaker 1: so it.

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Speaker 2: Is, But would you agree Sean McDermott is not coaching

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Speaker 2: the way Sean McDermott coaches for seventeen games during the

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Speaker 2: regular season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 4: Like what happens is you get in these moments and

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Speaker 4: they're big, and you know, everybody talks about this sphincter's puckering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: It's not just for the players, it's especially there for

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Speaker 4: the coaches. Right, they realize just how big these moments are,

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Speaker 4: right Buffalo who in the nineties had one of the

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Speaker 4: greatest teams ever in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: That is crazy, four straight Super Bowls, Like, you don't

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Speaker 2: send up losing, but that's insane.

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Speaker 4: Right, And so they there's been a fall from grace

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Speaker 4: there they I mean, they really luck up on not

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Speaker 4: only Josh Allen, but have Brian Dayball there to build

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen into what he is now. And so now

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Speaker 4: that you have arguably one of the top three quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: in the whole entire league, quite possibly in another week

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Speaker 4: or so, will be the league MVP, the pressure to

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Speaker 4: get you back to the Super Bowl is immense and

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Speaker 4: he's feeling it and every possession, every down. It all

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Speaker 4: matters if they say that's rough in the passer.

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Speaker 3: It was not thankful.

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Speaker 4: No, guess what now that it's on everybody's radar, everybody

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Speaker 4: just did exactly what we just did. Now they're looking

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Speaker 4: look at Patrick, look at the ref, Look look at him,

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Speaker 4: look back at the ref.

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Speaker 3: YEP, there was a very clean hit of Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: He will flop down the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the exhausting part. He's way too talented to

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Speaker 2: play like he's a whoever. I don't want to even

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Speaker 2: disparage anybody. Fox Sports Radio Ertor is in for Mark Willard,

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Speaker 2: a heed from Salam. Will come back a lot to

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Speaker 2: discuss next two hours.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our two Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Willard is out eron Torres filling in. We are broadcasting

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Speaker 1: You know what's nauseating?

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Speaker 2: Uh uh Oh, you can go in so many different

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Speaker 2: directions here, So.

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Speaker 4: Keep running the same third and one play that hasn't worked,

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Speaker 4: like when you keep go into the world. I know,

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Speaker 4: they obviously don't have the right type of push or

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Speaker 4: play to capitalize on these third and ones. They keep

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Speaker 4: doing it. They're not pushing. The leverage is all off.

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Speaker 4: The only way you win is if you out leverage

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Speaker 4: the defense. Sure, they haven't done it right one time.

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Speaker 4: I know they continue to call the play.

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Speaker 2: Is that because Joe Brady's known as like a clever

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Speaker 2: Like is that straight from the head coach Sean McDermott

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Speaker 2: stuff it down their throat?

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Speaker 3: Or do you think it's Joe Brady?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: How does that work on a headset? Like if Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott's a defensive head coach, is he totally hands off?

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I didn't think so.

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Speaker 4: No, Yeah, no, coaches, head coaches, because he's the ones

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Speaker 4: gonna get fired, and so you have to really lock in.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is tremendous, sure one of the top two quarterbacks,

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Speaker 4: top three quarterbacks in the league today right now in

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Speaker 4: this game. Then put the ball in his hands for real,

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Speaker 4: for real, put the ball in his hands for real.

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Speaker 2: So this is kind of sets up something interesting. By

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Speaker 2: the way, Buffalo up twenty two to twenty one. Late

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Speaker 2: late late third quarter, there's about fifteen seconds left, I believe,

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Speaker 2: and we will be heading into the fourth.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: This kind of sets up something interesting, though, because there

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Speaker 2: was something interesting that happened in the Philadelphia Washington game.

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Speaker 2: I want your perspective on. So Philadelphia won fifty five

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Speaker 2: to twenty three, I think everybody knows. But late in

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Speaker 2: the third quarter, they're up forty one to twenty three.

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Speaker 2: They're on the goal line. They're lining up for the

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Speaker 2: tush push. Not once like Lebron James, not one, not two,

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Speaker 2: but three times Washington jumped up offsides. It eventually led

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Speaker 2: to a ruling that I was not aware existed. Producer

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Speaker 2: pet go ahead, play this sound interestingly enough.

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Speaker 1: You got a situation here.

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Speaker 7: If these are deliberate, and you heard Sean Hockyley say

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Speaker 7: that it could lead to an unsportsmanlike conduct call.

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Speaker 1: It could also.

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Speaker 7: Lead to awarding a score if it happens multiple times

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Speaker 7: like this. So we'll hear what Sean has to say.

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Speaker 1: A coachman defense number ninety three.

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Speaker 3: Washington has been advised that at.

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Speaker 7: Some point the referee can award a score if this

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Speaker 7: type of behavior at copeys.

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Speaker 1: Again for now, it's a replay of suckond down.

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Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: So that was during the Washington Philadelphia game. Three straight

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Speaker 2: offside penalties on the one yard line from Washington. First

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Speaker 2: of all, were you aware that the referees can arbitrarily

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Speaker 2: just award points to the other team if they think

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Speaker 2: it's malicious in their actions and behaviors.

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Speaker 1: No, that's a new one, that's all right. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that that's a new one. Hey, if y'all

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Speaker 1: keep it up, we gonna just give him the points, do.

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Speaker 3: We we got?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think it's Mike Prayer is probably not available,

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Speaker 2: but so do we give him six? And then they

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Speaker 2: kicked the extra point? Like it's just an interesting thing.

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Speaker 2: I do want to ask you though. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we are at the start of the fourth quarter. Buffalo

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Speaker 2: is again lining up fourth and one right at the

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Speaker 2: fifty yard line. We'll see if they run a play.

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Speaker 2: Looks like they may be about to be awful. Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, if he held out to the ball, he

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Speaker 2: got it and looks like he fumbled. The Kansas City

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Speaker 2: is indicating that Josh Allen has fumbled it. We will

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Speaker 2: see what even when Steve de Sager is shaking his

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Speaker 2: head in disgust, when.

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Speaker 1: The great Steve de Saga, who's seen it.

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Speaker 2: All, not only seen it all, but you know, Steve

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Speaker 2: even keeled the Sagers what they call him in the building,

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Speaker 2: He just you know, always cool, you know, it's like

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson, never a hair untouched. When even he's shaking

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Speaker 2: his head, it's like, well, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: And it looks like so Josh Allen definitely got it.

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Speaker 2: He definitely fumbled and he definitely funned.

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Speaker 1: But he recovered.

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Speaker 3: But he recovered.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's risky, you know.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you're up one start of the

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Speaker 2: fourth let me let me even reset this Buffalo is

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Speaker 2: up twenty two to twenty one start of the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: fourth and one at midfield. As the Sager told you

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Speaker 2: to lead the hour, Buffalo has gone for it twice

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Speaker 2: on gone for two point conversions twice, excuse me, and

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Speaker 2: in both situations did not get it. That's how we

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Speaker 2: have a twenty two to twenty one score. It appears

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Speaker 2: as though Buffalo did recover it. It'll be a fresh

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Speaker 2: set of downs.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back to one. Will keep more

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Speaker 3: monitor this game.

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Speaker 2: This is even if Buffalo wins, like I don't again,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be negative, you know, if Buffalo

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Speaker 2: holds on, you know, happy for the city. This is

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Speaker 2: if we're grading coaches on this, this is like a

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Speaker 2: C minus from show.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's awful, but well, look at what he's

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Speaker 4: going up against, arguably the greatest coach in the NFL

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Speaker 4: currently and Andy Reid head coach, and Spagnola, who is

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Speaker 4: the top defensive coordinator in the league. Right, so anyone

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Speaker 4: outside of a hardball are.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 4: Right like any like it? The decisions you're making are

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Speaker 4: going to look like you're an amateur because you're going

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Speaker 4: up against, you know, a buzz saw when it comes

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Speaker 4: to not only the best quarterback in the entire league,

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Speaker 4: the best head coach and the best defensive coordinator with

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Speaker 4: the best tight end quarterback duo and the best interior

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Speaker 4: defensive lineman, fastest wide receiver the to and the fastest

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Speaker 4: wide receiver in the league. Fair your decisions they're going

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Speaker 4: to seem like they're all over the place.

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Speaker 3: But do you feel as in the server. Here we

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Speaker 3: go again, fourth.

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Speaker 2: And inches again, we will see what the spot is. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Kansas City thinks they got to stop. Buffalo thinks they

871
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: got the first down. Buffalo up twenty two to twenty one. Here,

872
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: twelve fifty five left. Buffalo has already converted one fourth

873
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: down on this possession.

874
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: It looks like they got.

875
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: The will they get the spot. I'll tell you that.

876
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: This push is And we say, how high everybody is.

877
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 3: This is not the Philadelphia.

878
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: That's not how you do it. And they keep doing

879
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: this gets you. This will get you fired. That'll get

880
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 4: you fired. I now you're making mistakes.

881
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: You can't.

882
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 4: It's like being in a relationship. Right, you come home late.

883
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, man, coming home and late?

884
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: Come home late with lipstick on your collar?

885
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, hear me out. Hey,

886
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: what's going on? Oh we're going out for drinks? Man, okay, cool?

887
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 4: Come home late again? Hey, I'm talking about days in

888
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 4: a row. Sure, Hey, look that's not working for me.

889
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: I love you.

890
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: After work, I'm here, I'm still with the kids. I

891
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: need some help. Right, third day, you come home late again,

892
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 4: and she like, are you Is everything okay?

893
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: Right?

894
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: Fourth day because this is the fourth time they've done this.

895
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: Now it's a problem. Now it's like it was a problem.

896
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: Now it's become a situation. Sure, and so now the

897
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 4: faith in you is gone. Sure Number one, you don't

898
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: care about her what's going on in her life. It's

899
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: all about you.

900
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: Yep.

901
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: And so when you're in a situation like this as

902
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 4: ownership and I look, he's turned the team around, but

903
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 4: that's Josh Allen. You can figure I can go get

904
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: that guy with Josh Allen. Right, So now those type

905
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: of questions start to surface, and it's like, hey, man,

906
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: why did you continue to run a play that we

907
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: saw wasn't working? That's what I was going to say,

908
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 4: Like everyone is watching it not work, So why did

909
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: you think it was working?

910
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: And whatever that answer? What is the answer? Well?

911
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 4: And now if your wife says, well, where are you

912
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 4: and what are you doing? He says, look, be honest, right,

913
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: I got a drinking problem.

914
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: Right, that doesn't fix Sure, you're right.

915
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Now.

916
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: If he says, look, our ten year anniversary is coming

917
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: up and I've been out, and he explains what he

918
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: I've planned this whole Yeah, Okay. I was like, oh, okay,

919
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: what is his reason? Well, I was gonna say, what

920
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 4: is what is the analogy anniversary.

921
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: First Sean mcderberty, Because I'm not seeing.

922
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: It now, can he say?

923
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: Look, I figured instead of punting, if we got it,

924
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: it'd extend to drive. If we didn't, the clock would

925
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: run like we're like, we're where I don't understand because no,

926
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 4: it's fourth down. The clock is gonna stop no matter what.

927
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: So I don't know what he can possibly tell ownership

928
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: to make this okay. It's egregious.

929
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: There's two big issues, and I think you hit on

930
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: both of them.

931
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: The first one is it is something that is obvious

932
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: to everybody, right if you you know, if if the

933
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: quarterback or somebody keeps throwing interceptions, because let's see what

934
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: the call is stance. It is first down, Kansas City

935
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: got to get your fired. Buffalo gets the star, Buffalo

936
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: goes for it for a second time. On fourth down,

937
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: they do not get it. Kansas City gets the ball back.

938
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: Buffalo is up twenty two to twenty one, twelve fifty

939
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: five left in this game. So one, it's like you said,

940
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: is that you don't have to be a scheme expert

941
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: or Joe Brady or Tom Brady or somebody that has

942
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: a football background to see that it's not working.

943
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: This is about to lose them in the game, that

944
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: that move is about to lose them the game. Look,

945
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: and I'm not I'm okay with them going forth, going

946
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: for it on fourth down in this location. Put the

947
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 4: ball in Josh Allen's hands, not on a sneak. Let

948
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: him be what Josh Allen is. Let him be what

949
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is. And I would never help Patrick Mahomes up.

950
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: There you go championship game.

951
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 4: Well, I think you know why let him get himself

952
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: off the ground. Right, You're using more like I'm not

953
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna help you beat us.

954
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: No, I know you know why I think he did

955
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: it though, It was because it was not even a

956
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: big hit. It was a hit near the sideline. It

957
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: was even close to a penalty. But I think that

958
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 2: was the defender's way of saying, like, reps, if you're

959
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: even thinking about it, it wasn't even close like that.

960
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: That's what I actually think that was.

961
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: Now, you guys, see you I get yourself up home boy,

962
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: hope you pull your pull a muscle, getting up too.

963
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: You know, we here we go, we're going to be

964
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: on in real time as the meltdown of the Centricers.

965
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: That could be a penalty right there. So to set

966
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: it up all right, we are under twelve minutes to

967
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: go in the AFC Championship game. Buffalo is up twenty

968
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty one. They have gone for it

969
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: twice on fourth down and did not convert either time.

970
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: That's why the score is twenty two to twenty one

971
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: instead of twenty four to twenty one. They in the

972
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: previous drive went for it twice on first down. The

973
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: first time was really sketchy. Josh Allen actually fumbled the

974
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: ball on the play, but he had already picked up

975
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: the first down, so it was awarded to Buffalo. The

976
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: second play on fourth down, they do not get it.

977
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: Kansas City has taken over within two plays. They are

978
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: now a essentially in the red zone. They're out about

979
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: their you know, Buffalo twenty three to twenty four yard

980
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: line and they're very easily in field goal range if

981
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: they do not go for it. And I'll tell you

982
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: this is everything that we talked about, because it is

983
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: setting up for a not only just a loss like

984
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: if you know better than I. It's one thing when

985
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: you lose because the team is superior the other teams.

986
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: Like if you're a washingt Commanders, you sit there and say, golly,

987
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: tough Sea, you know, tough game, great season. If Buffalo

988
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: loses this game, it will be in large part because

989
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: of coaching mismanagement and coaching malpractice. As Kansas City picks

990
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: up the first down in the red zone under eleven minutes.

991
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: To go, Yes, that's exactly right.

992
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, take it wherever you want.

993
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you.

994
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: Pin Kansas City down on the two yard line coming

995
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 4: out and.

996
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: That would have been to start the fourth quarter too.

997
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: Yes, so you just took another three four minutes to

998
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 4: make them drive ninety eight yards to get a score.

999
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 4: You're up in the game, by the way, Yep, you're up.

1000
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 4: You're not coming, you're not trailing. So Patrick Mahomes scores.

1001
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: We have a touchdown in Kish God, he tried.

1002
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 4: To spike the ball and that was awful. That was

1003
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 4: the worst the Taylor Swift shot.

1004
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and Donna Kelsey are in the boost. So

1005
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: for people at home, Kansas City has just taken a

1006
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty two lead ten to fourteen left

1007
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: set up by Buffalo going for it on fourth down.

1008
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: Lead locker Travis Kelcey.

1009
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: There you go a about their own forty look. I

1010
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: think it was about a three to four play drive.

1011
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 2: Kansas City is in the end zone. They're up twenty

1012
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: seven to twenty two to a five point lead. Obviously

1013
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: this is see now, this is where it makes sense

1014
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: to go for two to give yourself a seven point lead.

1015
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: Kansas City is up twenty seven to twenty two to

1016
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: two point conversion, pending ten minutes to go in this game,

1017
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: but Kansas City has retaken lead. Why e Ferm and

1018
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: I were laughing was because Mahomes went to spike it

1019
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: and he sort of threw it and it looked like

1020
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: a third grader throwing with his left hand when he's

1021
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: a natural righty. And the two point conversion in the

1022
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: least surprising news is good.

1023
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: So people always wonder why is Kansas City and how

1024
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: are they winning all these games?

1025
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: They don't beat themselves though they're well coached, yes, and

1026
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 3: they do not beat themselves. When you talk about the

1027
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: importance of coaching play calling confidence, we just got it

1028
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: within a three place band. We just got it in

1029
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: a three place span, fourth place span one third and one,

1030
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: you don't get it. One fourth and one, you don't

1031
00:55:52,600 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: get it. A run, play, pass play, touchdown. That's the

1032
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: difference between play calling coaching the whole nine yards. We're

1033
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: getting a look at what makes them so good, what

1034
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 3: makes them so dominant.

1035
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna come back, and when we do, we're

1036
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: gonna have that conversation. Not just from the Kansas City perspective.

1037
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: They have not beaten themselves, by the way, today was

1038
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: their first turnover they've had since like mid November, So

1039
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: it shows you even if they are not as dynamic

1040
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: as they've been, they are well coached. They are not

1041
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: beating themselves. Buffalo, on the other hand, cannot stay out

1042
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: of their own way. We'll come back. Kansas City has

1043
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: just taken a twenty nine to twenty two lead in

1044
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, about ten minutes to go. We're taking

1045
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: you up till eleven pm Eastern time when Arnie Spaniel

1046
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: Chris Playing takeover, so we got plenty of time to

1047
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: break down the final ten minutes of this game. Also,

1048
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: we got to start talking about what's next for both

1049
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: of these teams once it goes final So we're here

1050
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: for another hour and forty two minutes, and there is

1051
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 2: a lot to talk about. This is Fox Sports Radio.

1052
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torres filling in

1053
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: for Mark Willard, Ephraim Salaam joining me. Certainly an interesting

1054
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: development in Kansas City. Kansas City, when we last left,

1055
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: had just taken a twenty nine to twenty two lead.

1056
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: Buffalo has driven the length of the field. They are

1057
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: in the red zone. Uh, and it is third down

1058
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: on about the four yard line. Kansas City just called

1059
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: the timeout. Third down here six twenty three to go,

1060
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City up twenty nine to twenty two.

1061
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: Even if Buffalo scores.

1062
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: Kansas City would be getting the ball back here with

1063
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: probably somewhere the neighborhood of five and a half to

1064
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: six minutes to go. Worth note in Kansas City did

1065
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: just use its first timeout. Buffalo still has all three

1066
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: timeouts remaining a lot to dive into here, Ephraim, as

1067
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo lines up on third down, third and goal in uh,

1068
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: coming out of a case timeout.

1069
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: So Buffalo third down.

1070
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a bad pass.

1071
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: Significant overthrow on third down from Josh Allen. So it

1072
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: is now fourth and goal on about the four yard line.

1073
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: As Ephram has pointed out, Buffalo has repeatedly gotten stuff

1074
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: trying to run the ball up the middle, even the

1075
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: first play of this of this drive, well of this series,

1076
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: I really should not really the series. But you know,

1077
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: once they got inside the five, there was a QB.

1078
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: It was a design run that got stuffed, and so

1079
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: we will see what happens. It's fourth and goal six

1080
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: twenty left Kansas City up by a touchdown. You know,

1081
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: they stop him here, there'd still be time, but they

1082
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't be very much time for Buffalo. So we'll see

1083
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: what happens here again. Kansas City up twenty nine to

1084
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: twenty two as we speak, and we have a touchdown.

1085
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: We do have a touchdown for the Buffalo Bills. Josh

1086
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: Allen to Curtis Samuel. So it is now twenty nine

1087
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: twenty eight extra point pending twenty nine to twenty eight

1088
00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: extra point pen.

1089
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: You know what, I know what you're gonna say, you

1090
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: know what, you know it'd be nice.

1091
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: A couple about an hour and a half ago, we

1092
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 4: were talking about you.

1093
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 3: Have a crystal ball, you cant see an ino the future.

1094
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: The premium on points right, Remember we not that long ago.

1095
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't that long.

1096
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: We were just talking about oh man, And here we

1097
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: are six minutes and fifteen seconds left to go in

1098
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 4: the game in a twenty eight twenty nine game where

1099
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: we're about to kick the extra point.

1100
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: It's good. Now it's twenty nine to twenty nine.

1101
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 2: Let me set this up really quick because for people

1102
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: who are maybe driving around right before the half, Buffalo

1103
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: Kansas City is up twenty one to ten. Buffalo gets

1104
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: the ball back kind of like what they did just there.

1105
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: They drive the length of the field in pretty quick fashion,

1106
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: cut the lead to twenty one sixteen. They kicked the

1107
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: extra point. It's good to make the score twenty one seventeen.

1108
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: Then there is an off sides call on Kansas and

1109
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott and poor Sean McDermott taken all.

1110
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: I hope none of.

1111
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: His family is listening to this show, because we have

1112
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: not had very many nice things to say.

1113
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: Well they should, then they should talk to him about it.

1114
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 4: I mean, be a real family member. I pull them

1115
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: aside and I am about to lose your job.

1116
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: What do they say? You know, problem something about a part?

1117
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: You know you gotta acknowledge a problem? To move past

1118
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: it over, so there's an offside call. After they kick

1119
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: the extra point to cut the lead to twenty one seventeen,

1120
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, in all his wisdom, decides to go for two.

1121
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: As Ephraim has pointed out several times, they run the

1122
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: play up the middle where they don't really know how

1123
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: to do the toush push. They're not getting any push,

1124
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: get caught the toush push if there's no actual push

1125
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: going on. They do not get the two points there,

1126
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: so it's twenty one sixteen. Then they score early in

1127
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter or early in the third quarter to

1128
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: take a twenty two to twenty one lead, and then

1129
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: again go for two because they missed the first two

1130
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: point conversion. They don't get it. So it all adds

1131
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: up to a twenty nine twenty nine score. Because Buffalo

1132
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: has twice left points on the field, went for two

1133
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: right before the half, went for two shortly after the

1134
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 2: second half, got neither. We have a twenty nine to

1135
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: twenty nine score. There is about six minutes to go

1136
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: six fifteen to be exact, Kansas City will get the

1137
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: ball back even we got a lot to talk about,

1138
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: but i'll tell you what before we do it? You

1139
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: astuteley said it every hour at the thirty minute mark exactly.

1140
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 3: We got to get into the news desk.

1141
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: It's exactly six thirty Pacific, nine to thirty eastern to Seger,

1142
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: what is trending?

1143
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: My friend? One large?

1144
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 6: Oh my, after all events got on here it's Buffalo

1145
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 6: twenty nine all at Kansas City, six fifteen to go.

1146
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 6: This is reminding me in a sense. And do you

1147
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 6: remember when Appalachian State pulled off that huge upset at Michigan?

1148
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 6: Who could forget Michigan went for two twice, missed both

1149
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 6: and lost by two.

1150
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 3: So I mean, she just kicked extra points. I know

1151
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: it's the trendy cool thing to do. It is not,

1152
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: but it's so annoying.

1153
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: The other thing that I hate is the whole You

1154
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: should actually go for two to go up eight, because

1155
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 2: even if you miss it, you can get two again

1156
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: to TI. How about you just kick the freaking extra point.

1157
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: When they tried to run before halftime on the two

1158
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: point conversion, the ball was not on the one, it

1159
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: was outside the one and they were stopped on the run.

1160
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: And then the two point pass late third quarter that

1161
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: failed as well, So congrats Buffalo. They're back in a

1162
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: tie game. By any measure, they should be leading this

1163
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: game at Kansas City. Again, we're in the fourth quarter,

1164
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: and I need to point out on the so called

1165
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: push push when Buffalo was stopped on the fourth and

1166
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: one early fourth quarter past midfield. You know how the

1167
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: formation is with Philadelphia so successful with it. Everybody is

1168
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: surrounding the quarterback. It is the tightest of tight formations.

1169
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: They get a great push from the line in front

1170
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: of the QB and multiple people physically pushing behind the QB.

1171
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: When you watch back the video.

1172
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 6: Of Buffalo yet again getting stopped on fourth and one,

1173
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 6: it's like they figure, well, our quarterback is a giant,

1174
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 6: so let's just have three wide receivers out there standing

1175
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 6: doing nothing and a five 't ten running back attempting

1176
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 6: to shove our quarterback from behind.

1177
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: Steve. That's how you get fired.

1178
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 6: It is complete failure. They could still win this game.

1179
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 6: But my goodness, you people, and I'll add next Gen

1180
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 6: Stats has existed for almost a decade getting great NFL nuggets,

1181
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 6: including out of this game the fact that Buffalo's been

1182
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 6: stopped on three quarterback sneaks so far. Tonight, Josh Allen

1183
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 6: stuff short of the line to gain by Casey three times.

1184
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 6: That is the most run staffs by any defense against

1185
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 6: quarterback sneaks in any game since they've had next Gen stats,

1186
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 6: which again goes back to twenty sixteen. I had this

1187
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 6: stat holding on to it when the fourth quarter began

1188
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 6: and Patrick Mahomes was trailing in his playoff career. How

1189
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 6: has Mahomes and the Chiefs offense done when they're down

1190
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 6: one to eight points in the fourth quarter of a

1191
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 6: playoff game or down in overtime? The answer is they

1192
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 6: have scored points on thirteen of fourteen drives in that situation,

1193
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 6: including mahomes ten yard touchdown run for the lead. With

1194
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 6: about ten minutes to go, Buffalo has evened it up

1195
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 6: at twenty nine, and we're at five and a half

1196
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 6: minutes left. Kansas City is driving into Buffalo territory. Can't

1197
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 6: believe what has gone on here. Earlier, in the NFC

1198
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 6: Championship game at Philadelphia, the Eagles defeated the Washington Commanders

1199
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 6: fifty five to twenty three. Saquon Barkley three touchdown runs,

1200
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts three touchdown runs. Eagles led fourteen to twelve

1201
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 6: late in the first half, eventually fifty five points, most

1202
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 6: ever by a team in a conference title game. Just

1203
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 6: one NBA game tonight, Oklahoma City is now thirty seven

1204
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 6: and eight after winning at Portland one eighteen to one

1205
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 6: oh eight. Hawks guard Trey Young is out for Monday's

1206
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 6: game with a hamstring injury, and in the wnb LA

1207
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 6: has acquired Kelsey Plumb from Las Vegas. Vegas gets Jewel

1208
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 6: Lloyd from Seattle. Updating the NFL game, under five minutes

1209
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 6: to go, Chiefs have driven into field goal range. They're

1210
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 6: at the Buffalo thirty three. They may not need a

1211
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 6: field goal here. It's the Chiefs offense in the fourth

1212
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 6: quarter of a playoff game. For the moment, tied at

1213
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 6: twenty nine, but Mahomes at the controls. Back to you, guys,

1214
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 6: Mahomes is going to complete a pass here and forget it.

1215
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be first in goal.

1216
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City back to you.

1217
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

1218
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: Steve Sager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday.

1219
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: It's almost like we're prognosticators. We've seen this before over

1220
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: and over.

1221
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 4: So with that knowledge and this is the importance of

1222
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 4: the right type of coach. With that knowledge that we have,

1223
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 4: and we're over here. Your play calls matter. Yep, what

1224
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 4: you do matters. You're not just playing against their defense, duh.

1225
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: And here we are, you're playing against their offense. You

1226
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: can playing against playing situational football. Patrick Mahomes does take

1227
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: a sack, not the worst thing that could happen. No,

1228
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: And you know, Casey, remember when it.

1229
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 4: Was about nine minutes and thirty six seconds left in

1230
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 4: the game. Yep, And I casually said, well, the worst

1231
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 4: thing that could happen is if you drive down the

1232
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: field and you score a touchdown, and I don't know,

1233
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 4: leave about five minutes and thirty seconds for Patrick Mahomes

1234
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 4: to drive down and all he needs is a field

1235
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 4: goal to beat you.

1236
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that either. And here we are.

1237
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the other crazy thing, too, is that

1238
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: if you're watching, Casey, and I know you are, But

1239
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: for people who are not in front of a TV,

1240
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: they're letting the clock. I mean they're at five seconds

1241
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: on the play clock right now. They very smartly are

1242
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: getting down to three four five seconds before they before

1243
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: they run a play because as the sager told you,

1244
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: that are in field goal range. The score is twenty

1245
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: nine to twenty nine three forty to go. Kansas City

1246
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: is definitely in field goal range. It is third down

1247
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: and I think ten maybe even more third and goal

1248
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: though in field goal range. And like I said, there

1249
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: was an incomplete passa Zavier Worthy, so it does stop

1250
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: the clock. But Kansas City comfortably in field goal range.

1251
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 3: They would go ahead.

1252
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo does have all three timeouts and they would get

1253
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: the ball back depending on what happens here, you know,

1254
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: about three thirty three forty to go. But we will

1255
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: see what happens. As Kansas City is trying to trying

1256
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: to put themselves in position and it looks like Buffalo

1257
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 2: has forced a fourth down, it is worth noting Casey

1258
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 2: is in field goal range. They took a bunch of

1259
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: time off the clock. You know, Harrison Bucker pretty reliable,

1260
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: so you know, we'll see what happens. But I'll say this,

1261
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: Buffalo's defense, you know, Buffalo's offense score quick. Buffalo's defense

1262
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: did their job. Three forty three point thirty seven left.

1263
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: If Kansas City kicks this field goal, it's a thirty

1264
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: five yard attempt. Buffalo would get the ball back three

1265
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: thirty five left, all three timeouts. Then that becomes the

1266
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: thing of you don't want to score too quickly yourself, because,

1267
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: as he from Salam said, do you want to give

1268
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: the ball back to Patrick Mahomes? And a thirty five

1269
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: yard field goal by Harrison Bucker is good. So for

1270
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: people just joining us, Kansas City has taken a thirty

1271
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: two to twenty nine lead, three point thirty three left

1272
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. In Kansas City, Josh Allen will

1273
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: get the ball back. Buffalo has all three timeouts, but

1274
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: now he from it's a slippery slope. You need to

1275
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: score at least three to fourth overtime. You obviously don't

1276
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: want to go to overtime, but you can score too quickly.

1277
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 4: They're showing Josh Allen. He's saying, I'm good, No, I

1278
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: got it, I'm good. Well look hey man, we've seen

1279
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 4: him do it to you, yeap, so let's see what

1280
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 4: you got. You know, Josh Allen's played fine today. He's

1281
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 4: twenty one to thirty, passing two touchdowns. Those two quick

1282
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: touchdown scores both touch passing touchdowns to maccollins. Excuse me, actually,

1283
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: I take that back. One was to Curtis Samuel. But

1284
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's been fine. But now this is almost no

1285
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 4: man's land. Of with the way that they've been scoring,

1286
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 4: I mean, you could score too quick because remember if

1287
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 4: you score a touchdown.

1288
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: Not score too quick.

1289
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: I know, because a field goal does tie it. So

1290
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: three thirty three left, casey up thirty two to twenty nine,

1291
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: so Buffalo will get the ballpack with three thirty three left.

1292
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 4: But also remember late on me, what do you got

1293
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 4: they've struggled inside the red zone.

1294
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: Oh you're right, so shortyarded Jim.

1295
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what do you do?

1296
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: It's tough. And I'll add this too. I one way.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm not a coach. That's why I'm in

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Speaker 1: here talking. I mean you are, That's why I'm here. Yeah,

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01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: not football. I can die.

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Speaker 4: I can coach the two three zone and the trap

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01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 4: and the press and and all of that.

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Speaker 2: But woof, I know, no, it's it's it's a fine line.

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01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 2: And of course you have, you know, one of the great,

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: if not the greatest. And I think the thing too

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01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 2: that's worth noting is, as you said, great offensive coordinator.

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01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: On the other side, great quarterback, very comfortable in these situations.

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01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: First down for Buffalo, We're worried about them scoring too quickly,

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: and they just took a loss on first down. Clock

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: is ticking, will be at about three minutes to go.

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01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: Tell you WHATDDI from, We'll come back. We'll put a

1311
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: bow on this game because we're about to hit the

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01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 2: three minute mark. Buffalo trailing thirty two to twenty nine

1313
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Speaker 2: at Kansas City. Will keep you updated. A trip to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is on the line. That's next. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Trety, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torres

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01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: filling in for Mark Willard alongside Ephraim Salaam. If you

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: are one of those people that does not want to

1318
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 2: see the Kansas City Chiefs and yet another Super Bowl,

1319
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: might be time to cover your ears, don't turn off

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: the radio dial.

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01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: We appreciate you listening.

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: But Buffalo drove to about midfield, got fourth down. It

1323
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: was fourth and five under the two minute warning. I'm

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: not a good enough scheme guy to know what Steve

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01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 2: Spagnolo did, but he brought the house. Josh Allen chucked

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01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: it up. It was no good. So Kansas City has

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01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 2: just gotten the ball back under two minutes to go.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo had all three timeouts after a after an unsuccessful play,

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: Buffalo used its first timeout, so thirty two to twenty nine.

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: Kansas City leaves Leeds excuse me, one fifty to go.

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: It is now second and nine Buffalo with two timeouts

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: left a first down he from just about wuld seal

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01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: the victory for Kansas City.

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, duh, this is what they do.

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: First down and bounds game Blouses.

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: There was a short pass completed for a first down.

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01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes rolled out and.

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01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: Then you know what, parent coaching matters.

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: We got a full hour and I think I have

1341
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 2: a feeling that's gonna be the theme of our coaching matters.

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we got to talk about a lot of

1343
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 4: stuff going on in the world of coaching and changing

1344
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 4: and all of that. But you know, watching games like

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01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: this with top tier talent, coaching matters.

1346
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: And it could be the life or death of you.

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 2: Well, it looks like it's going to potentially be the

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: death of the Buffalo Bills. First down is completed. Uh,

1349
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 2: it looked like the runner stayed in bounds. Disaga is

1350
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: telling us that they have ruled that he actually went

1351
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: out of bounds. I believe the Chiefs basically took a

1352
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: time out to challenge it.

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01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 4: No one was on that entire side of the field.

1354
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 4: So on when you need to get the ball back,

1355
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 4: how do you not cover an entire side of the field.

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01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 4: Like I said, coaching matters. And some will say, well,

1357
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 4: the players have to.

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: Make the play.

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01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 4: No, no, yeah, but what you're saying when you're calling

1360
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 4: a defense or on offensive play, hey be aware of this.

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01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: Look out for that.

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01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 4: Don't watch the bootleg, watch the counter who has the

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01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 4: back out of the backfield because no one had him.

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: He projected was wide open.

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna make a weird analogy, right, So you

1366
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: know how last week Buffalo beats Baltimore and you know

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: there's an anti Lamar sentiment. I don't think it's as

1368
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: big as but nobody with a brain was blaming Lamar

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: Jackson for the loss. It's like, you know, two good teams,

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews makes a few mistakes whatever, Like nobody that

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01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: actually doesn't hate Lamar Jackson was blaming Lamar Jackson for

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01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: that loss.

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01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: I bring it up because I know what you said.

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 3: Players make plays.

1375
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 2: There is no one that has been watching this game

1376
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: that can blame any one other than Sean McDermott, not

1377
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I thought played pretty well. Two passing touchdowns,

1378
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: James Cook ran the ball well, you know. I mean

1379
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: the defense was not great, but it was good enough.

1380
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: This comes down to coaching, as you said, should keep

1381
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: you updated. One thirty eight left in the game. Buffalo

1382
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: has one time out left at second and nine.

1383
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: We watched the very same thing one year ago, thank you,

1384
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship game.

1385
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 3: The nfcach. Oh yeah, we watched.

1386
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell coach himself out of a Super Bowl visit. Yep,

1387
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 4: and look what happened the next year. You can't outside

1388
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 4: of having the best player in football partnered with the

1389
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: best coaching in football, you can't say we're gonna get

1390
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 4: him next year. That doesn't exist. We don't know what

1391
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions is going to be next year, right.

1392
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 4: They let a rookie come into their place in the

1393
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 4: Divisional round and outplay everybody on the field, and so

1394
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 4: this we get him next year.

1395
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: Whatever.

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 4: That is the only team that I know for a

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01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 4: fact that doesn't operate like that, and that's why they're

1398
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 4: normally there.

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,520
Speaker 1: The next year is Kansas.

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: City Chiefs been their seventh straight years.

1401
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 4: They stocked. They stay locked in, man, they stay locked in.

1402
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 4: They know once again.

1403
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: There you go.

1404
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 3: Where has just sealed the game?

1405
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: Who has the back out of the backfield.

1406
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: First down has just sealed the game?

1407
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: That is that p Ryan?

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01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 4: We know, we know, I know as a co as

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01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: a fan, I know if he's in the backfield, what

1410
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 4: type of back he is?

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: We don't hand the ball off to him. I know that. Look.

1412
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 4: Look, track track track, track, track, wide open. You supposed

1413
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 4: to be like, hey watch this, watch that. Just like

1414
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 4: when we call an offensive play, we'll come up to

1415
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 4: the line and be like, hey watch the safety, watch that.

1416
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: Watch this.

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01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 4: If they do this, like we're aware of it. Look

1418
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 4: and look, players got to make plays. Players got to

1419
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 4: do what they got to do. But coaches, a coach's

1420
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 4: job is to put them in the right position, the

1421
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 4: right formation, give them an ability to use their abilities

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01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 4: to do what they're supposed to do and severely out coached.

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01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 4: And I'm going on record to say Nick Sirianni will

1424
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 4: also be out coached in the Super Bowl in two weeks.

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01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: Way to ruin the whole hour three because it is final,

1426
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs are headed to yet another Super Bowl.

1427
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: The final score thirty two to twenty nine. Buffalo eliminated

1428
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: for the fourth time in five years by the Kansas

1429
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 2: City Chiefs.

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01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 3: I mean, so, here's my thing.

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01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised because to your point that you've said,

1432
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: and to the point that we will spend until eleven

1433
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: pm Eastern time, eight Pacific talking about I don't think

1434
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott should have been back this year. Josh Allen

1435
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: is twenty eight. He will be twenty nine in May.

1436
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: He only has so much of a window left where

1437
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: his body can do the things that his body has done.

1438
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 2: I think they have wasted his prime. I don't think

1439
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott can come back because, as we will explain

1440
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 2: for the full hour three, this was I okay, let

1441
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: me just ask you a very simple question. If you

1442
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: were grading Sean McDermott on his performance today, what would

1443
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: you give him as a grade?

1444
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 4: Serious question? D Yeah, no, no, no, I give him

1445
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 4: an F. I was just gonna say, I'd give him,

1446
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: I'd give what if he knew it?

1447
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I give him my F.

1448
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 4: Because of the magnitude of the game, the opportunity that

1449
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 4: was ahead of you, I would and the talent.

1450
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: He had to to utilize. I give him an F.

1451
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: That's all I was gonna say, because when you said

1452
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 2: d no, no, I give him a yeah. I was like,

1453
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: there's nothing he did to not get an F. Now,

1454
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: Josh Allen made some plays. Mc collins made some plays.

1455
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: The defense at times made some plays. But we are,

1456
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: by the way, we are on for another hour till

1457
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: eleven pm Eastern time, and we're going to reset this all.

1458
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 2: But the Kansas City Chiefs are headed to yet another

1459
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. We have a final score. Thirty two to

1460
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: twenty nine. Is in fact that final score. And I

1461
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: want to reiterate for people who were not able to

1462
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: watch it. If you're in the car, if you're driving,

1463
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: if your work, whatever, can you confirm this was not

1464
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: a ref Shenanigan's nothing it was. This was not This

1465
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: was nothing other than Kansas City being in the moment

1466
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: making big plays when they had two smart plays, not

1467
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: beating themselves, and this was This falls I think it

1468
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 2: falls one hundred percent on Sean McDermott. You can't say

1469
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: that Josh Allen didn't come ready to play. You can't

1470
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: say that the defense did this and did that because

1471
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: to your point, yes, there were some first down conversions,

1472
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 2: that's not the coaching staff to put players in position

1473
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: to succeed. We're to your point, guys, on the most

1474
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: crucial plays of the game, guys are running wide open.

1475
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: So I could go on and on, but I don't

1476
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: know what else to say. This isn't the refs, This

1477
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 2: isn't a big conspiracy, This isn't the NFL. This is

1478
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: on Sean McDermott, and we got an hour to discuss it.

1479
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of unpacking here, and I think

1480
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 4: we're fair in our assessment based on what we just watched.

1481
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 4: We can see it happening. We I even quoted what

1482
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 4: would happen prior to it happening?

1483
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 3: At halftime?

1484
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: You did, so, Here we go, Here we go, Chiefs

1485
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: thirty nine, Buffalo twenty Chiefs.

1486
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 3: Arey two, Buffalo twenty nine. We're gonna come back discuss

1487
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Speaker 3: it all. Ra TORRESI from slim Fox Sports Tonio.

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01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our three Fox Football Sunday Aeron Torres

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Speaker 2: Ephraim salaam myself erin Torre is in for Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: or so. Gonna be a lot of Chiefs Bills talk

1496
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 2: because there is a lot to break down. If you're

1497
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 2: an Eagles or Commander's fan. If you're a Commanders fan,

1498
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: you probably don't want to listen. If you're an Eagles fan,

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01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: I apologize. Don't feel like we've talked much about the

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Speaker 2: Eagles during these three hours. But Philadelphia gets to win

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01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: fifty five to twenty three. Saquon Barkley three rushing touchdowns

1502
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:56,480
Speaker 2: a as de Seger said earlier, record setting day for Philadelphia,

1503
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: fifty five points. But the story of the day again,

1504
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: as Desagre just told you, we have a final in

1505
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Kansas City wins thirty two to twenty nine.

1506
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 2: I know Desagre just gave you all the details, but

1507
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: I'll reset it for anybody just joining us. This game

1508
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: was out about the refs. This game was not about favoritism.

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01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: This was about one team performing in big moments and

1510
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: one team that was just fundamentally poorly, poorly, poorly coached.

1511
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: Buffalo trail twenty one ten. In the first half, they

1512
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: score a touchdown, make it twenty one to sixteen, kick

1513
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 2: an extra point. There's a penalty on the play. Sean

1514
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: McDermott takes the point off the board, decides to go

1515
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 2: for two. They don't get it. Then in the second half,

1516
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: score again to go up twenty two to twenty one.

1517
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: Again go for two, they don't get it. That, in

1518
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 2: large part was the difference. You take points off the board,

1519
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 2: you end up losing by the way. A play that

1520
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: will be replayed in infamy. Fourth down, the two minute

1521
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: warning Buffalo. There's pressure on Josh Allen. He throws it up.

1522
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 2: The ball literally goes through Dalton kin Kaid's hands. To

1523
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 2: me from I don't know if you've been able to

1524
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: see the replay or not, that's not a Mark Andrews

1525
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: situation from a week ago. Josh Allen, Yeah, Josh Allen

1526
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: kind of threw a duck up. There was, you know,

1527
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: just whatever. It was a hope and a prayer. That's

1528
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 2: the best way to put it. You know what else

1529
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: I think it was. I think it was a metaphor

1530
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: for that game. Buffalo did not deserve to win. They

1531
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: did not get the break when they needed it because

1532
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: they didn't deserve it, because they weren't the better team.

1533
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 2: Kansas City is going to another super Bowl, a third

1534
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: straight super Bowl, and it's just unbelievable. It's just unbelievable.

1535
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll be transparent and take it where

1536
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: you want he from. This falls on, This falls on

1537
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: one man, in my opinion, and that is solely Sean McDermott.

1538
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, to your point, we just sat here, we watched

1539
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 4: this game, and early on we noticed that this one

1540
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 4: feels a little this one feels a little different. This

1541
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 4: to me felt like it wasn't going to solely be

1542
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: on the participants on the field. And as a former player,

1543
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 4: I'm always one that it's like, look, they call the place.

1544
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 1: You gotta do what you got to do. But I've

1545
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: also been on.

1546
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 4: Teams where you know, things weren't conducive or didn't help

1547
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 4: you in certain situations. And if you ask a player

1548
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 4: do they want to go for it on fourth down?

1549
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 4: Multiple times, of course they're going to say, yes, that's

1550
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 4: just what we do. I get that, I understand that.

1551
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 4: I admire that. Yeah, I want as many shots as

1552
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 4: this thing as possible. It is a coach's responsibility if

1553
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 4: you do decide to do that, that you put your

1554
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 4: team in the right play to accomplish that goal. And

1555
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 4: that's the problem I'm having.

1556
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 3: When I think about this game.

1557
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: I just think the two teams played to their coach's personalities,

1558
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: at least on this day. I don't know what Chel

1559
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: McDermott's like on a Tuesday in June. But Anny Reid,

1560
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 2: there was never you know, I mean think about there

1561
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: were big chunks of the game where Kansas City was down,

1562
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 2: There were big chunks of the game where Kansas City

1563
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: was tied. Buffalo had two quick strike scoring drives.

1564
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: Boom boom, boom, boom boom.

1565
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: I never felt in a single moment that Andy Reid

1566
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 2: was nervous, that Patrick Mahomes was nervous, that Steve Spagnola

1567
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: was nervous, et cetera. The counter to that, you know what,

1568
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,959
Speaker 2: I feel like, Buffalo was a little bit like Baltimore

1569
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: last year in this exact same spot. It felt like

1570
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,799
Speaker 2: they were playing the ghost of fifty touchdown Patrick Mahomes

1571
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: that put up forty five points on everybody, and it

1572
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 2: was we gotta get every single you know, It's like,

1573
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, Listen, you're a basketball coach, so it's perfect analogy.

1574
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: You know how when you're down ten and you tell

1575
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: your players there's no ten point shot, so or you're

1576
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: down fifteen, there's no ten point shots, so let's cut

1577
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: it to ten, and then let's cut it to five.

1578
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1579
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: I felt like Buffalo the entire game was playing as

1580
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 2: if there was a magic twenty one point play that

1581
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: they needed to get every single play of the game,

1582
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 2: and they just played tight, man, they just played tight.

1583
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: The coaching it was coaching malpractice. I don't think there's

1584
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 2: any other way to say it.

1585
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 3: Go ahead, guy.

1586
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 4: It didn't seem like they were confident exactly. That's the

1587
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 4: perfect word. It felt like, oh God, here we go again.

1588
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 4: Based on some of the decisions that why would you

1589
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 4: not put the game in the hands of arguably which

1590
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 4: probably is going to be the MVP of the league.

1591
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 4: If you run a play and here's my biggest problem,

1592
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 4: and the functionality of that play isn't conducive to it

1593
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 4: being successful, would you run it three more times?

1594
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 3: Nope? And then when that's the problem, and then when you.

1595
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: Get it, but you only get it because you fumbled

1596
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: and recovered it, do you then run it three more

1597
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: times after the night.

1598
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 4: What I'm saying that is the problem we're having. That

1599
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 4: is where I'm like, oh, there's a problem here, that's

1600
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:09,839
Speaker 4: a real situation that shouldn't happen. It should not happen.

1601
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 4: I'm with you, And so when it does happen, my

1602
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 4: spidery senses are going off, like, wait, what's going on

1603
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 4: over there? They didn't even run the play in a

1604
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 4: way where it could be successful. There was no leverage

1605
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 4: gained on the we're talking about the quarterbacks and neaks.

1606
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: Did they continue to run on third and fourth and one?

1607
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 4: There was never a time where they won the leverage

1608
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 4: battle on any of them, but you kept running them yep.

1609
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 4: And that's the problem. And that's why we're being hard

1610
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 4: on McDermott, because that is a him call.

1611
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: Yep.

1612
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 4: If you hear that come in from the OC over

1613
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 4: the Waukee, you say, oh no, no, no, no, no, no,

1614
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 4: no no no, we're not doing that. We're not getting

1615
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 4: the leverage they have some there. They're reading something. It's

1616
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 4: not working. Let's do this. M That's where you separate

1617
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 4: yourself in the caliber of coaches, what level you are.

1618
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 4: And so when they go back and look at this.

1619
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 4: It may be one of those situations where they're like,

1620
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:38,839
Speaker 4: look Josh Allen, especially if he wins the MVP, because

1621
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 4: now you can say, well, it was Josh who got

1622
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 4: us here.

1623
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Yep, he carried us here.

1624
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 4: He had the least amount of talent of any of

1625
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 4: the people who were up for MVP, and he got

1626
01:28:54,479 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 4: us within two points of going to the Yep, you

1627
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 4: didn't help him, so you need to be replaced. So

1628
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 4: the only problem with that is that's what I was

1629
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,839
Speaker 4: gonna ask that coach is available. That's my big problem.

1630
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 4: So first of all, I and I think we see

1631
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 4: this in sports sometimes is two things can be true.

1632
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott took a team that was in a historical rut,

1633
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 4: what was it, one playoff appearance in twenty years, no

1634
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 4: playoff appearances in eighteen years, whatever it was, and he

1635
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 4: got them to a certain level. Now it's a credit

1636
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 4: to Josh Allen, it's a credit to a lot of people,

1637
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 4: Brian Dable, who you referenced earlier, the former o C,

1638
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 4: Joe Brady who's doing great things now. But there are

1639
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 4: in sports, we've seen this over and over. There are

1640
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 4: guys that can get you to a certain level, but

1641
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 4: can they get you over the hump? You know, we

1642
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 4: all we all watched the last dance. Michael Jordan wasn't

1643
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan till he had Phil Jackson whoever you know,

1644
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 4: Colby and Shack Phil Jackson, Koby and Shack Phil Jackson.

1645
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 3: And you know, I just I don't know. I don't

1646
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 3: know who the answer is, I.

1647
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: Don't I there's a difference between what you think will

1648
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: happen and what should happen. What I will what I

1649
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: think will happen is they're going to run it back again.

1650
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: You know what.

1651
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 2: It's almost like, I'll tell you this, it's almost like

1652
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State with Ryan Day before they actually won and

1653
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: won the championship, because it's like, you're just good enough.

1654
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 3: Where were you gonna say.

1655
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 4: Saying no, no, I was just looking wearing the studio

1656
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 4: and they're interviewing Sean McDermott right now, and uh boy,

1657
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 4: I paid it. Hear what he has to say. Looks

1658
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 4: like he's been crying a little bit. They may have

1659
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 4: fired him or I'm just no.

1660
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 2: But but with Ryan Day before, he went on this run.

1661
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: Can't beat Michigan, but you're so good that you're in

1662
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 2: the position that it's really hard for us to make

1663
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 2: a move, but you just can't do this.

1664
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 3: One thing, can't beat Michigan, still still have to be

1665
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 3: in Michigan.

1666
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 2: It's a fair point, and I look at that with Sean,

1667
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: but it's also with Ryan Day. It was the timing

1668
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 2: thing of if you they made the playoff this year, well,

1669
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 2: you can't wait until the end of December because no

1670
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 2: coaches are gonna be available. And that's why I think it

1671
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 2: gets tricky with Sean McDermott. Is whoever you deem to

1672
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 2: be the perfect guy, Mike Vrabel, Bill Belichick has a

1673
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 2: signed contract that he cannot get out of. Ben Johnson,

1674
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if he would have been the guy.

1675
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the only answer really is Joe Brady, who

1676
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: obviously interviewed for a bunch of head coaching jobs. And

1677
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, do you hand the keys to a

1678
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 2: thirty two to thirty three year old guy who's a

1679
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 2: year or two older than Josh Allen. My thing is,

1680
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 2: I just don't think you can run it back. He

1681
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 2: coached tight, by the way, Let's not forget he coached

1682
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 2: tight last year too. When they had the lead at

1683
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: home against Casey. So you made an analogy earlier Ephan

1684
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: He said, if you're a husband and you come home

1685
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 2: one night, you had a few beers, whatever, Okay, second

1686
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 2: night you shouldn't have done it, But I forgive you

1687
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 2: a third night. Now we got a little bit of

1688
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 2: a problem. Fourth night, I'm calling the divorce lawyer.

1689
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 3: Enough is enough.

1690
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: And you look at dermott Is think about all the

1691
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: different scenarios. The first year they lose to him, Well,

1692
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 2: you know, they're established, they're this, they're that, we're on

1693
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,959
Speaker 2: the way up. Year two, we are so close, thirteen

1694
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: seconds away. You get one play, you know, And there

1695
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: was that whole thing with who was even the defense

1696
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: coordinator Leslie Fraser, Oh you know whatever?

1697
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, it's or Leslie Fraser's fault.

1698
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 2: Then last year it's you know, well we're at home,

1699
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 2: we had there is no more excuse. You've had him

1700
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 2: at home, you've had him on the road, you've been

1701
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 2: up at the half, you've been up in the fourth quarter.

1702
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 2: Today you can't get over that hump. And so it's

1703
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: tough because I don't know who the answer is. But

1704
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: but here's what I keep coming back to you from

1705
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's about to be twenty nine years old in May.

1706
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: Like, listen, you played this sport at the highest level,

1707
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 3: and let me just ask you.

1708
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: You know, people can say, oh, Brady played till he's

1709
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 2: forty five. Tom Brady does not play like Josh Allen plays. No,

1710
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 2: Tom Brady did not take the hits that And I

1711
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 2: don't care that he keeps getting up from all of them.

1712
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 1: Listen.

1713
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: I would never wish this upon anybody. But at some

1714
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 2: point he's not going to be able to get up

1715
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 2: from one of them. And so he's going to be

1716
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 2: twenty nine years old in May. Many how many years

1717
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 2: do you think he can keep playing at this level

1718
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 2: and you can't keep falling short and expecting to come

1719
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: back and do it over and have a different result.

1720
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that clock is running and it's going faster

1721
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 4: and faster.

1722
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Yep.

1723
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 4: And it's a situation now where you're looking at it

1724
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 4: and he's got.

1725
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:29,719
Speaker 1: To look at himself in the mirror.

1726
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 4: And if Sean McDermott the coach take you, get you

1727
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 4: over to hump, I don't believe so. So if you

1728
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 4: don't think so. As a franchise an organization, it's a

1729
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 4: ownership group, Then what are you waiting for?

1730
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: So let me can I jump in on one thing

1731
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 3: real quick?

1732
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I think there's always this belief of if you fire him,

1733
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 2: who are you going to get? Who's better? Here's my

1734
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 2: counter to that with Josh Allen. Do we think it's

1735
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: gonna get worse?

1736
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 5: Like?

1737
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: Cause that was like, I'll go back to the Ryan

1738
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 2: Day analogy. People would be like, oh, you know, how

1739
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 2: can you get rid of Ryde? It's like you can

1740
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: find coaches that can go ten and two and not

1741
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: beat your biggest rival.

1742
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 3: Now good for Ryan Day because you put it together.

1743
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 2: You want a championship, But you mean it, tell me

1744
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 2: like just take X coordinator X whoever for whatever, take

1745
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 2: anyone with whatever you mean to tell me they can't

1746
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: come in next year and win thirteen or fourteen games

1747
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 2: the AFC East and have.

1748
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 3: A home playoff game.

1749
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 2: Like it's not like if you fire Sean McDermott you

1750
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 2: have to replace him with Aaron Torres or producer pat here,

1751
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: Like they're going to be functional And I think the.

1752
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 3: Producer pack.

1753
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 2: Could you get thirteen wins out of this team? Could

1754
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 2: you get thirteen wins and not beat the Chiefs in

1755
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game.

1756
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 6: You know what if I'm throwing like Uncle Rico from

1757
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 6: Napoleon Dynamite, I think I can, dude.

1758
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: But that's the point, though, is you can't just use

1759
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 2: the excuse of it could get worse.

1760
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 3: This is I don't know. I think this is rock bottom.

1761
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 4: I don't think it gets worse. That's a talent like Josh.

1762
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

1763
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: First of all, you.

1764
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 4: Need to bolster your roster, get him some more weapons

1765
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 4: and defense, need another edge rusher. Love von Miller, but

1766
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 4: you know, ex playing about a third of the defensive

1767
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 4: plays and you you have to move on from Sean.

1768
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 4: I agree. It can't be a situation where you're locked

1769
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 4: into it and you we've seen this movie. You don't

1770
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 4: want to be watching the same movie you hear from.

1771
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 3: Now, which is what we said this day last year.

1772
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 1: Same thing, yep, same thing.

1773
01:35:54,040 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 4: So you know, it's it's crazy to think that you

1774
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 4: could be fired after losing by two in the NFC

1775
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 4: Championship Game, r three by the end in the NFC

1776
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 4: Championship game. All right, excuse me, AFC Championship game. But

1777
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 4: yeah you can, especially when you get out coached. Because

1778
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 4: if that's your goal is just to get to that game.

1779
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 4: I remember last year at home home field, no doubt,

1780
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 4: didn't matter, did not matter. Last year they beat the

1781
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 4: Chiefs in the regular season, didn't matter.

1782
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 3: Beat him this year in the regular season, didn't matter,

1783
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,440
Speaker 3: didn't matter. It's so frustrating.

1784
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm not a Bills fan, but it's just because you

1785
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 2: have a talent like Josh Allen and you see the

1786
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: talent being wasted. We haven't even talked about the coaching

1787
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: carousel stuff from this week, but I'm excited for Ben

1788
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: Johnson with Caleb Williams. I don't know if Caleb Williams

1789
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: is going to be good, but at least the Bears

1790
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 2: are putting him in a position where if there is

1791
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: talent there, we think they have the right coach. With

1792
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, that talent is being wasted. And I go

1793
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 2: back to what I said, don't tell me who are

1794
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: you get to get that's better. I think just about

1795
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 2: anybody that's functional in the NFL can get you thirteen

1796
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 2: to fourteen wins in the AFC East as things currently stand,

1797
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 2: and in this position, and I think the question is

1798
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 2: can you find the guy to get you over the hump?

1799
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. This is Willard and Ephrom Salam. Willard

1800
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 2: is out Aaron Torres with Ephrom filling in until eleven

1801
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 2: pm Eastern eight Pacific, when Arnie Spanier Chris Plank will

1802
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: take over.

1803
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 3: We'll come back.

1804
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 2: We'll continue this conversation and we will start to look

1805
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 2: ahead to the big game two weeks from now in

1806
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 2: New Orleans Eagles Chiefs Part two? Will anything be different

1807
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 2: this year?

1808
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 3: That's next? Fox Sports. Are you welcome back? Everybody?

1809
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Aaron Torres filling in for

1810
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Ephraim's I'm not filling in for e from Slam filling

1811
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:50,919
Speaker 2: in for Mark Willard.

1812
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 3: Willard, I assume we'll be back next week.

1813
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 2: He's a busy, busy, busy man covering the NFL up

1814
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area alongside e from Salam. By the way,

1815
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 2: she matched shortly after the show, our podcast will be

1816
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,200
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1817
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,240
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1818
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,839
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1820
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,479
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1821
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 2: see this show posted after we get off air. We're

1822
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:23,759
Speaker 2: talking a lot of Bills Chiefs Part four, and unfortunately,

1823
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 2: if you're a Bills fan, or if you're a Chiefs hater,

1824
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: part four, it's like the Rockies. They all end the

1825
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 2: same same, they all end the same.

1826
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 4: No matter how they start, no matter what's going on,

1827
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 4: they in the same way.

1828
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 2: Clubber, Remember clupper Lang got them early and then Rocky

1829
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 2: came back and got them late. And that's that's exactly

1830
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 2: where we are here, Kansas City thirty two, Buffalo twenty nine.

1831
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 2: Listen for people who have been listening from the beginning,

1832
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 2: were reiterating a lot of the same points. But it's

1833
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 2: frustrating because, as I said to ephrom who of course

1834
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 2: spent a decade plus in the NFL as an outsider,

1835
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 2: to me, it's one thing if you just lose to

1836
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 2: a team that's superior. A Washington Commanders fan today can say,

1837
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 2: darn it, today sucked, but this season was awesome. If

1838
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 2: you're a Buffalo Bills fan, I just I don't even

1839
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 2: know how.

1840
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't even know how.

1841
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 2: You put your head on the bed at night. As

1842
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I'll tell you what what we

1843
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: can do. We can open up the phone lines here

1844
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 2: for the last half hour one eight seven seven ninety

1845
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 2: nine on Fox one eight seven seven nine nine six

1846
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 2: six three six ' nine. Producer Pat make sure the

1847
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: phone lines are open. I'll be curious if any Bills

1848
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 2: fans are listening. Would love to hear what you have

1849
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 2: to say, because it's frustrating because it was a game

1850
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 2: that was there for the taking. Buffalo actually out gained

1851
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 2: out gained the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City did have

1852
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: a few more first downs Buffalo four for six on

1853
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: third down or on fourth down, excuse me, which shows

1854
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 2: how many times they went for it. But the crucial

1855
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 2: one late they could not get. Kansas City drives down,

1856
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 2: kicks a field goal, and that ended up being the

1857
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 2: different it's in the game because you know, it's just disappointing.

1858
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 2: It's just disappointing, and for people just joining us, I

1859
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 2: don't need to go through the entire timeline. But Buffalo

1860
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 2: goes for too late in the first half. They're chasing

1861
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: points from there. They don't get to on the next

1862
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 2: touchdown later early to start the second half. They're chasing points.

1863
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: They're chasing points. There's a lot of short down plays

1864
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: where Sean McDermott and co. Seemingly kept calling the same

1865
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 2: play over and over.

1866
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 4: Oh, it was the same play football game was the

1867
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 4: same play, same formation. They kept getting out leveraged every

1868
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 4: single time, and watching it, it's just like, Ugh, this

1869
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 4: isn't going to work because when you do that over

1870
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 4: and over again, you play right into the hands of

1871
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 4: the defense. They know exactly what you're doing. They know

1872
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 4: how to stop it because they've consistently been stopping it

1873
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 4: the whole game. Those type of decisions are the decisions

1874
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 4: to have you quite possibly looking for another job.

1875
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you what it looks like. The phone

1876
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 3: lines are hopping. What we'll do?

1877
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 2: Why don't we get it over to the news desk

1878
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,719
Speaker 2: uh Steve de Sager for the final time this evening.

1879
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 3: We'll bring him in. We'll let him do.

1880
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 2: An update, and I do if you want, if you

1881
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 2: are a Bills fan one eight seven seven ninety nine

1882
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 2: on Fox one eight seven seven nine nine six six

1883
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 2: three sixty nine, it is crazy, It is insane, It

1884
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 2: is frustrating. Congrats to the Kansas City Chiefs to Sager.

1885
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 2: Go ahead, take it away, give us some details and

1886
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 2: everything else that's trending.

1887
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 6: Guys, let's not forget our recent history. It was all

1888
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 6: of last weekend when Buffalo eliminated Baltimore in the divisional round.

1889
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 6: The final was twenty seven to twenty five. The Ravens

1890
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 6: missed two two point passes in the second half at

1891
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 6: lost by two. Tonight at Kansas City, Buffalo missed two

1892
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 6: to two points conversion attempts and they were stopped on

1893
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 6: three quarterback sneaks, and they lost by three. Yet again,

1894
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 6: in the postseason, the Bills are eliminated by Kansas City.

1895
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 6: These two have met now four times in the playoffs

1896
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 6: in the last five years, and Kansas City's won all four.

1897
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:21,759
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes two touchdown runs, one touchdown pass, one fumble. Tonight,

1898
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 6: but on a fuel goal with about three and a

1899
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 6: half minutes left, Casey wins at thirty two to twenty nine.

1900
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 6: Chiefs are into a Super Bowl for a third straight year.

1901
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 6: Kansas City scored touchdowns on three of its first four drives.

1902
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 6: In fact, it led twenty one to ten late in

1903
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 6: the first half. The Bills franchise still has not been

1904
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:41,719
Speaker 6: to a Super Bowl since that run of going four

1905
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 6: straight years in the early nineties, when they lost four

1906
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 6: Super Bowls in a row, and we must mention again

1907
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 6: when Patrick Mahomes, in his playoff career, is trailing by

1908
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 6: one to eight points in the fourth quarter or in overtime,

1909
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 6: he is truly phenomenal. His team has scored points on

1910
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 6: fourteen to fifteen drives, including when he took the lead,

1911
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 6: scoring with about ten minutes left tonight.

1912
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 2: His I thought I was gonna say to say, let

1913
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 2: me catch out. I've at the stat they showed during

1914
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 2: the game. Kansas City has now won sixteen straight one

1915
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: possession games, which is obviously, not surprisingly an NFL record.

1916
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 6: Not luck.

1917
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I was gonna say, I know there's some frustration.

1918
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 2: For fans, but especially tonight, there was no luck involved.

1919
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 2: It was better coaching, better execution, all of that.

1920
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 6: Well, and all of that just this season. This is

1921
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 6: what the thirteenth time they've won a close game thirteen

1922
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 6: in one season, including playoffs. But Mahomes again went down

1923
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 6: in a close game fourth quarter. In the playoffs, his

1924
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 6: passer rating is over one thirty. His career passer rating

1925
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 6: is about one oh five.

1926
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: In the playoffs.

1927
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 6: It's just to say it gets dialed up and the

1928
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 6: success is exponentially better is almost an understatement. Casey advances

1929
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 6: the Bills and the season at fifteen and five, that

1930
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 6: is ten and oh at home. The Bills went five

1931
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 6: and five on the road. The Chiefs just finished ten

1932
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 6: and oh at home. They go to New Orleans in

1933
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 6: a couple weeks to face Philadelphia in the Super Bowl.

1934
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Speaker 6: You may recall a thrilling Kansas City versus Philadelphia Super

1935
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 6: Bowl a couple years ago where the Chiefs kicked a

1936
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 6: late field goal and won. The Eagles will at home

1937
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 6: won the NFC Championship game today over Washington fifty five

1938
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 6: twenty three, So the Eagles went ten to one at

1939
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 6: home this season. Sakuon Barkley three touchdown runs. He had

1940
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 6: fifteen carries one hundred eighteen yards. Quarterback Jalen Hurts three

1941
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 6: touchdown runs nearly two hundred fifty yards passing. The Commanders

1942
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 6: end the season at fourteen and six. Washington with four

1943
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 6: turnovers in this game nine penalties as well. The lead

1944
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 6: was thirty four to twenty three to start the fourth

1945
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 6: quarter fifty five twenty three Philadelphia. Those fifty five points

1946
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 6: most ever scored by a team in a conference title game.

1947
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 6: One NBA game tonight, Oklahoma City won at Portland one

1948
01:44:58,080 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 6: eighteen one oh eight thunder with a record of TI

1949
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 6: thirty seven and eight. Shay gil Just Alexander scored thirty

1950
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 6: five points in tennis Number one. Janick Center what his

1951
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 6: second straight Australian Open Final. In the NHL's late game

1952
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 6: at Vegas, final minutes, it's the Golden Knights leading Florida

1953
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 6: three to one, earlier wins from Minnesota and Colorado. The

1954
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 6: Seahawks have a new defensive coordinator. It's Clint Kubiak from

1955
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 6: New Orleans. Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore will interview for

1956
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 6: the Saints head coach opening. The Titans are hiring former

1957
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 6: Raiders GM Dave Ziggler as assistant GM. According to NFL Network,

1958
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 6: and defensive coordinator Jim Knowles is leaving Ohio State for

1959
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 6: Penn State and a whole lot of cash back to you,

1960
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Speaker 6: Thank you very.

1961
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Speaker 3: Much, Steve de Seger.

1962
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Air Torres

1963
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 2: and e from Salaam Torres filling in for Mark Willard.

1964
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 2: We are taking up untill eleven pm Eastern and we

1965
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 2: are talking a lot of Kansas City in Buffalo. Kansas

1966
01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 2: City gets to win thirty two to nine. Tell you

1967
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 2: what from you know, we don't do well. I don't

1968
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 2: know what you what you and Willard do. But we

1969
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 2: got some phone calls and do you mind taking a call?

1970
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 4: No, I'm good, I'm good. This is a new wrinkle.

1971
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure some of our fans are excited to get

1972
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 4: in here. Let's make it happen.

1973
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's go, Pat, can we go to Chris

1974
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 2: and Syracuse?

1975
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,879
Speaker 3: First, Chris and Syracuse.

1976
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 2: You're on Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torres filling in for

1977
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 2: Mark Willard alongside e from Salam.

1978
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 3: What is the vibe in upstate New York right now?

1979
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 3: Even though I already know the answer, well, you know

1980
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 3: the answer.

1981
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 8: But what you guys are talking about, you're right, I

1982
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 8: mean you're what you've talked about to two points two

1983
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 8: different times. But going to that same play to the

1984
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 8: left with Josh Allen over and over and over again,

1985
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 8: I was just I was screaming, why are you doing this?

1986
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 8: Give it to the running back, give it to cook.

1987
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 8: They're getting two three yards even if they get staffed.

1988
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 8: I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it.

1989
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the call, Chris, for people who

1990
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 2: like can you is there any explanation, Is there any

1991
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 2: explanation for running that same play over and over and over?

1992
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: The floor is yours. There's there's.

1993
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 4: The reason you continue to run plays is if you

1994
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 4: identify something that you can take advantage of. Sure, that's

1995
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 4: the only reason to do it. Sure, And based on

1996
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 4: what I was seeing.

1997
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 2: As a former longtime NFL offensive lineman, let's set the table.

1998
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: You know this better than most of us.

1999
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: I do know this.

2000
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 3: I know you do.

2001
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: That's why I want people to know who who in

2002
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: case they're not listening.

2003
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: And so.

2004
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,679
Speaker 4: When you come up to the line and people think

2005
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 4: the quarterback sneak is pedestrian number one, they don't run

2006
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 4: it like that a lot because I can tell by

2007
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 4: the way Josh Allen was attacking it. The one thing

2008
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 4: you never want to do. It's turn your back. M

2009
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 4: turn your back to the line of scrimmage. If your

2010
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 4: back is facing away from the first down, where is

2011
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 4: the ball behind the body? Right, the ball is facing

2012
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 4: away from the first down. Another thing you don't want

2013
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 4: to do is ever reach the ball out high to

2014
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 4: get the first down.

2015
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: It's not like a touchdown.

2016
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Speaker 3: Ball breaks the place.

2017
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Speaker 1: It's not over. Yes, it's not over.

2018
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 4: And we saw him reach, go up, high jump, reach

2019
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:40,839
Speaker 4: the ball over and as he was trying to secure

2020
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 4: it it got knocked out of his hand. They just

2021
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 4: so happened to recover the fumble at the bottom of

2022
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 4: the pile.

2023
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Speaker 1: Yep.

2024
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Speaker 4: So me watching it, I'm like, oh, these are things

2025
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 4: that you wouldn't you would never coach, And so watching

2026
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 4: those type of miscues further let me know that, oh,

2027
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,839
Speaker 4: this isn't a play that they're comfortable running.

2028
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 5: Wow.

2029
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 4: And so to continue to double down on something that's

2030
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 4: not your bread and butter, and essentially, you take your

2031
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 4: one superpower you have in the entire game, which is

2032
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, and you make him pedestrian. You take your

2033
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 4: Superman and make them Clark Kent and hope Clark Kent

2034
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 4: can get the first down.

2035
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Speaker 2: All it does is speak to me. And this was

2036
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 2: I think how we literally open the show, or pretty

2037
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 2: close to it is, I said, Sean McDermott is not

2038
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 2: coaching this game. Well really the last two weeks. I

2039
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: thought it was a poor effort. Last week as well,

2040
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 2: he is not coaching this game like he coached any

2041
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 2: of their seventeen regular season games. And last week it

2042
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 2: got overshadowed I hate to say it, Mark Andrews fumble

2043
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 2: late two point conversion drop, but Baltimore was the better

2044
01:49:58,400 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 2: team certainly late in that.

2045
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: Game, and like you had a whole second half.

2046
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,919
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so it's just man, oh man, it's so frustrating.

2047
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm looking really quick. First time these

2048
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 2: two teams played, Josh Allen forty pass attempts two hundred

2049
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 2: and sixty two yards, twelve rushes for fifty five yards. Tonight,

2050
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,839
Speaker 2: eleven rushes for thirty nine. They were all short yards

2051
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 2: though it was it was it was an all listen.

2052
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 2: I'm not game plan guy because I don't know enough

2053
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 2: to know, but it was just the caller, Christen Syracuse,

2054
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 2: just said it. You just said it as an observer

2055
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: who never played in the NFL. It felt super obvious.

2056
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 2: It was bad.

2057
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 3: Really quickly, we got.

2058
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 2: Time for one quick call before before we we gotta

2059
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 2: do this, so really quickly. Do we still have AJ

2060
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 2: and Tennessee? All right, AJ and Tennessee, you gotta make

2061
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 2: your point quick because we got a very short amount

2062
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 2: of time. You're on Fox Sports Radio Aeron tors and

2063
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 2: E from Slam Go ahead, Go ahead, AJ.

2064
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Speaker 9: Yeah, the coaching coaching was a little bit iffy deny

2065
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,679
Speaker 9: on some of those sports down calls. But what about

2066
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 9: that ball that hit the ground? I mean, I've never

2067
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 9: seen a completed pass where a ball touches the ground.

2068
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys want to go into

2069
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 9: that a little bit more.

2070
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 3: What is that the mac the late past, the don kink?

2071
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 3: Which one are you talking about?

2072
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 9: The one there where there was a tie of it

2073
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 9: about the ten yard line with the cornerback and the

2074
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 9: wide receiver, the Kansas.

2075
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: City one earlier? Yeah, the Kansas City one. Who was that?

2076
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: I think it was worthy? Right? Was that worthy on

2077
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:37,799
Speaker 1: that on that reception? Yeah?

2078
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 4: And they reviewed it and didn't overturn it. It it

2079
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 4: held up. I think it was before the half. I

2080
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 4: believe that was what you were talking about.

2081
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: But look.

2082
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 4: That that's that's out of the hands of her coach, right,

2083
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 4: It's up for interpretation. Whatever they see is what they say.

2084
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 4: Whatever the call is. It's hard to overturn the call.

2085
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 4: It's on the on the field. So how do you

2086
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 4: rise above it? Yes, you have to rise above that

2087
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 4: as a coach because you can't control that.

2088
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 1: What you can control is putting your team.

2089
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 4: In the best play and situation to be successful. And

2090
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 4: when you don't do it at this level multiple times,

2091
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,440
Speaker 4: that's when the spotlight is the brightest. That's when everybody's

2092
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 4: looking like, hey, wait, why is he doing this again?

2093
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: When you have to ask why yep, And.

2094
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 2: When you have average guys like me asking why again?

2095
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 2: This isn't super.

2096
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 4: I'm in the huddle to that point, Yeah, Aaron, I'm

2097
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 4: in the huddle. That play comes in, I'm like.

2098
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 3: What yep.

2099
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 1: I remember being in the Super Bowl.

2100
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 4: We're playing against the Broncos and it was a fourth

2101
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 4: and one called a toss play, and I said, oh wait,

2102
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 4: we have Jamal Anderson. Yeah, why would we toss him

2103
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 4: out to the short side of the field to get

2104
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 4: one yard?

2105
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: Yep?

2106
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 3: And so what happened? Did you take a time out?

2107
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,640
Speaker 4: Now? I know I'm a rookie, I'm like, whatever it is.

2108
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 4: But when you start looking at things like that, sure,

2109
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, well the game got too big. What

2110
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 4: you did for us in the Super Bowl at that time,

2111
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 4: this game got too big. There was a lot on

2112
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 4: the line, and when it gets too big, you're never

2113
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 4: going to beat on Andy Reid on the other side.

2114
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,799
Speaker 3: Because it never got to if you watch the game.

2115
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 4: They never get too big. For Andy, he's been here,

2116
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 4: he's done it. He's playing with house money, so to speak. Now,

2117
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 4: and so he coaches like, it's not too big. He

2118
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 4: coaches like, oh, they give us the ball, we're going

2119
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 4: to go back and score. Patrick Mahone plays like, oh,

2120
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 4: if they give us the ball, let's say with thirteen

2121
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 4: seconds on the clock. Right, Like, these things happen over

2122
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,719
Speaker 4: and over again, and there's the reason why no one's

2123
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 4: that lucky.

2124
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah no, And I agree And anybody who didn't get

2125
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 2: to watch the game. This wasn't the refs, this wasn't anything.

2126
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 2: And I go back to even that final possession, and

2127
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 2: we'll come back and wrap the show. But that final

2128
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 2: possession you talk about, you know, we think we could

2129
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 2: go down to score. They just knew we need to

2130
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 2: get two first downs and this thing's over, and really

2131
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 2: one first down just about did it. And you could

2132
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: see they were playing to get the first down. They

2133
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 2: weren't playing for a field goal. They were playing to

2134
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 2: get the first They You can criticize Casey for all

2135
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 2: you want, but in those moments, they played comfortable, They

2136
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 2: played calm, they played collected.

2137
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Air torres e from Salam.

2138
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 2: We're taking you up till eleven pm Eastern Time, reacting

2139
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 2: to this game. We'll put a bow on the show

2140
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 2: and we'll give you some thoughts on the super Bowl

2141
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 2: two weeks from now. Eagles Chiefs Part two. This says

2142
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Ready, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio airtoris

2143
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 2: filling in for Mark Whitlard alongside ephrom Salaam. We got

2144
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 2: ten minutes left until Chris Plan could already spand your

2145
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 2: follow us by the way, before we get to a

2146
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 2: little Eagles Chiefs part to, just want to say, man,

2147
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 2: it was a pleasure, bro.

2148
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Speaker 1: Man always dude, have we always?

2149
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Speaker 3: Have we ever done a show? I don't know we have?

2150
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 1: Okaya, Oh no, We've been doing this a long time.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's been great. Man, You've been amazing.

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Speaker 4: Seriously, I've known you since Look at this right here,

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Speaker 4: see this right here?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow? Yeah back in the yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we helped build that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Ephraim was a panelist on Fox Sports Live, the

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Speaker 2: original nightly show on it was called Fox Sports One

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Speaker 2: at the time, and I worked I helped on that

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Speaker 2: show as well. And you know here we are ten

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Speaker 2: years later. It's ten plus years. Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a throwback.

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Speaker 1: You can't you can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't just go to to Dick's Sporting guess.

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Speaker 4: You can't fix that. You can't pick that up. I

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Speaker 4: don't even get one of those. How about that Sony Penny.

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Speaker 2: You got to talk to her last for the past

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Speaker 2: shout out Sodia the real ones know are all right?

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Speaker 3: So you've teased this.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, listen, there's difference between being negative

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Speaker 2: and being honest, and I think we were honest about

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Speaker 2: the bills, not necessarily negative. But now it's time for

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Speaker 2: you to be honest about Chiefs Eagles Part two. Because

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Speaker 2: I can see the world where the Chiefs can win.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they will win, but I'm saying, or

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Speaker 2: excuse me, the Chiefs the Eagles can win to stop

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Speaker 2: the three peop I'm not saying they will, but I

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Speaker 2: think they can. I have gotten the vibe for the

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Speaker 2: last hour and a half that you do not believe.

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Speaker 3: Flora's yours.

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Speaker 4: Tell me what it's over, because what's on the line

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Speaker 4: means more for the Chiefs than it does fulfilling And

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Speaker 4: the reason I say that is.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those moments. Right.

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Speaker 4: We talked about we talked about Philadelphia foregoing an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to do something that's never been done, going for the record,

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Speaker 4: say Quon going for We talked about how that wasn't

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Speaker 4: important to them enough, important enough to them. Right, it

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Speaker 4: was all about the super Bowl. Okay, well now you're

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Speaker 4: in the super Bowl. Still could have been in the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl. Sure, Now, what the Chiefs are getting ready

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Speaker 4: to do is something no one's ever done.

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Speaker 1: Ever.

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Speaker 4: They're not breaking a record, they're doing something no one

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Speaker 4: has ever done. And that's when three straight NFL titles

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Speaker 4: it's an almost impossible task to do. And they're locked

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Speaker 4: in and with Andy Reid, the same thing I preached

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Speaker 4: I've been preaching about the trust level of Reid in

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Speaker 4: these type of situations. Patrick Mahomes, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: deal with him. You're gonna have to deal with him

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Speaker 4: when it comes down to it. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 4: this year the Chiefs have their defense is what really

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Speaker 4: saved them during this season because offensively, they weren't anything

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Speaker 4: to write home about. They're not beating you with big

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Speaker 4: plays down. This is not the Tarik.

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Speaker 2: Hill Chiefs this was the first game they scored thirty

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Speaker 2: points all the season long.

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Speaker 1: How about that. Now you're dealing with.

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Speaker 4: And they had to, and they had to, and now

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Speaker 4: you're dealing with the wrath of what the Chiefs really are,

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Speaker 4: and that is the best team in the league in

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Speaker 4: terms of being in these situations, these big time situations

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Speaker 4: and taking advantage of these situations.

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Speaker 1: Good luck, say quin or not good luck?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Chiefs certainly took advantage on Sunday. They do

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Speaker 2: beat the Buffalo Bills thirty two to twenty nine. We

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Speaker 2: barely have we talked about the Eagles, but they well,

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Speaker 2: fifty fifty five to twenty to thirty three.

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Speaker 3: He was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Three touchdowns for Saquon Barkley. They get the win.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you Whatddy from We Got to get

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Speaker 2: out of here, want to thank the crew, Mary Mack

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Speaker 2: on the board, producer Pat Steve de Seger from my

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Speaker 2: partner from Salama meritorres Mark Willard. Will be back next

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Speaker 2: week and you'll have plenty to talk about previewing Chiefs

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Speaker 2: Eagles coming up next. You know him Arnie playing Chris

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Speaker 2: spin Chris Arnie Carney, Time for me to go.

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