Speaker 1: Happy Monday, hor Hive. This is Wheezy and I'm here
Speaker 1: to tell you about where we're coming this week, coming
Speaker 1: in going. We're gonna be in Dallas this Thursday. We've
Speaker 1: just added a few more tickets because we know that
Speaker 1: we have been tryling to come to Dallas and we
Speaker 1: came to Houston and y'all bitches was mad that you
Speaker 1: had to get on planes and drive. So listen, we
Speaker 1: want to accommodate everybody. This show is definitely gonna sell out.
Speaker 1: It's on at Canton Hall, Okay, Houston this Sunday coming up,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be at the Improv. Come and check us
Speaker 1: out again. We're really looking forward to seeing you guys.
Speaker 1: Following that, we're going to be in Charlotte on March
Speaker 1: four at the Comedy Zone Orlando. We're going to be
Speaker 1: there on the seventh our home. It's a Saturday, it's
Speaker 1: an early show, so come funk with us and we'll
Speaker 1: all hanging party that night at the Orlando Improv. Atlanta
Speaker 1: will be there on March at center Stage. There are
Speaker 1: also a few ticket lefts for this show Toronto. March
Speaker 1: will be at Trinity College. If you came to our
Speaker 1: Toronto show before with the same venue. I believe there's
Speaker 1: about thirty tickets left, so go hurry up and spend
Speaker 1: your Canadian dollars on us San Francisco the Bay. We
Speaker 1: are finally coming to see you on April five at
Speaker 1: the Brava Theater in l A. We're gonna be returning
Speaker 1: to the Regent Theater on April nine. We are still
Speaker 1: working out the details of our New Orleans show and
Speaker 1: our Vegas show, so please don't curse us out in
Speaker 1: the comments. We are coming soon. Really looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing you. Guys. Get your tickets at Horrible Decisions dot
Speaker 1: com to enjoy this amazing fucking show that you listen
Speaker 1: to every week and see us live. Yeah, what up, y'all?
Speaker 1: Have you dealing? Baby? I don't know what fucking what
Speaker 1: I'm doing? Hi, guys, it's Horrible Decisions, God damn it.
Speaker 1: First of all, now you know that it is my
Speaker 1: god damn job. All right, this is your girl, Mandy
Speaker 1: v a k A debt bitch, which mind you. I
Speaker 1: had to say that bitch because the nigga said, I
Speaker 1: know she that bitch the way she's say debt bitch.
Speaker 1: So that's what if I am pet the stallion full
Speaker 1: core pumps all my motherfucker a k's I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: something twenty um Angela. You might have heard me on
Speaker 1: nine Today fiance with my fiance Michael from Nigeria, and
Speaker 1: you know what, God damn it, they denied his visa
Speaker 1: and I'm a playing citizen and if I want to
Speaker 1: get married in this country, ship, I want to do it.
Speaker 1: I've got the funds. Yeah, that's wheezy. You know here,
Speaker 1: I'm a me mall to eight kids, and I just
Speaker 1: feel like I can't understand fathom why they won't let
Speaker 1: it happen. Can I ask you? That's actually what happened?
Speaker 1: So we we all? You know. Even so, growing up black,
Speaker 1: having black friends, none of my black friends have referred
Speaker 1: to their grandma's as mom. Why do white people say that?
Speaker 1: And then some girls in the comments talking about because
Speaker 1: it's easy for children to say that's a white that's
Speaker 1: white people ship though right, it definitely is. It definitely is.
Speaker 1: Y'all here a third motherfucking boy us on here and
Speaker 1: guess what I'm gonna works on. I'm gonna work on
Speaker 1: properly introducing our motherfucking guests. So check this out. We
Speaker 1: got liquid in the motherfucking building. Who is a fixture
Speaker 1: in the b DSM leather community for more than twenty years.
Speaker 1: By the way, unless you started it five years old,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you've been doing this ship for twenty years. Things.
Speaker 1: She has competed and one Miss Henrietta Hudson Fetish two
Speaker 1: thousand eight and two thousand nine, and she went on
Speaker 1: to be the only woman of color um to compete
Speaker 1: in the first Mr Slash Miss New York City Leather contest.
Speaker 1: So if you can't tell, we're finally going to get
Speaker 1: into the community of leather and literally everything leather ship
Speaker 1: that I didn't even know I was doing mad research,
Speaker 1: no theme, which is honestly, when I looked up the
Speaker 1: history which we're gonna dig into, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: So if you can, you know, welcome yourself to horrible decisions.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in. And is there anything else
Speaker 1: that I missed because I know you have a long
Speaker 1: by You've done a lot of things. So what else
Speaker 1: are you known for in the leather community. I am
Speaker 1: currently the Northeast leather person the first. Um. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just won last I just one last month. Um, I
Speaker 1: am also on the board of Falsome Street East. I
Speaker 1: am now the former vice president of the Onyx Pros
Speaker 1: New York eighths U there for three years. I'm still
Speaker 1: a four number. Yeah. It is a leather organization for
Speaker 1: women of color in kink and we are moving to
Speaker 1: educate in power and help other women of color and
Speaker 1: on buying every folks explore b DSM and leather. I
Speaker 1: love that is on the board of it right, Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to get in the need
Speaker 1: to get on some boards, need to how can we
Speaker 1: get on boards? I love that thing. Maybe you'll be uh,
Speaker 1: it's turns with the c It's not the Congress, community,
Speaker 1: it's not the community council council, but it's got to
Speaker 1: be counseled communtee. You're just like, yeah, damn, this isn't
Speaker 1: follow me so much. Okay. So when there's a small
Speaker 1: business and you guys join this thing together and you
Speaker 1: go to meetings and like you could sell to each other.
Speaker 1: Born not definitely not LC shows. I'm don't think of listening, Like, damn,
Speaker 1: you're gonna look, what is it not committee Congress. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. I don't know listen, hunts Okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was like, Hunts, I don't know. Um okay, So
Speaker 1: how would one before we get into the icebreaker and
Speaker 1: breaking his ice how would one get on a board
Speaker 1: or part of these organizations if they are in the
Speaker 1: key community. So for Onyx Pearls, whatever chapter region you
Speaker 1: decide to join, so we are all over. My chapter
Speaker 1: is New York Northeast. Um, there is Southeast, there is
Speaker 1: deep South, there is Southwest. With the deep South, it's
Speaker 1: like Alabama, Kentucky, that's down there, that's down there. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not so what you do with fame of Converse?
Speaker 1: Girl in there, girls, we do have we do have
Speaker 1: a national council. Okay, um, but what we um. What
Speaker 1: you want to do is just go onto any of
Speaker 1: the websites and fill out an application. Submit it. You
Speaker 1: can join as an associate member or you can join
Speaker 1: as a full member. Full member is you have, of course,
Speaker 1: voting privileges and things like that. The only difference is
Speaker 1: besides the voting privileges is the patch. You get a
Speaker 1: full backpatch for your leather vest, and if you're an
Speaker 1: associate member you just get a smaller patch, but you
Speaker 1: still have the same perks Minus love you guys watching
Speaker 1: us on YouTube Liquid right now has a leather sash?
Speaker 1: Is this from you winning? Like? What is this? The
Speaker 1: leather sash from this is dope girl? You want like
Speaker 1: the home Miss America where you can It's a leather
Speaker 1: Miss America. Oh that's nice and I look expensive like
Speaker 1: real leather. This is plus This is plus Vaught. These
Speaker 1: from New York and Company on This is the Gabrielle
Speaker 1: Union collection. But I know that this is not real. Um,
Speaker 1: but this looks really nice. The studs are are also
Speaker 1: very nice on it. And so what did you have
Speaker 1: to do to when this when this sash? Or when
Speaker 1: miss Leather? So this one actually is not a Miss Leather.
Speaker 1: There was actually four titles. This is Northeast Leather Person,
Speaker 1: which is a non binary so because identify as gender fluid.
Speaker 1: My pronouncer she they them and that bitch. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so you had this title for leather Person, you had
Speaker 1: Mr Leather, Northeast Leather, your Miss Northeast Leather, and you
Speaker 1: had Northeast Leather Boot Black, which I am proud to
Speaker 1: say that everyone who won the titles this year, for
Speaker 1: the first year, we're all black yes, we is in
Speaker 1: this space already like a black no we but these
Speaker 1: are different. So throughout the country at internationally you have
Speaker 1: a bunch of different leather contests, I understand. So it's mixed.
Speaker 1: Not all the time. People of color are gonna win.
Speaker 1: That's really fire. People of color are gonna run. This
Speaker 1: is every sport there is. Whether if the leather everything.
Speaker 1: Who said ice cream niggas they heat up there? Ice
Speaker 1: cream be on their motherfucker too. I think it was catwoys,
Speaker 1: which is a fact. Well god damn, I mean really
Speaker 1: it's true. Look at all sports. Dogs don't let niggas
Speaker 1: compete about nothing. Look they brogan king noir, what white
Speaker 1: motherfucking dog is doing this ship? No? No, Well we
Speaker 1: don't know because I don't be looking for white people.
Speaker 1: So they just that is what. Maybe they just don't
Speaker 1: pop up on our feet. It's about to say, and
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I don't know what your Instagram
Speaker 1: algorithm is. But all the little um financed niggas with
Speaker 1: tattoos beyond my ship. I came across this nig and
Speaker 1: they all be living in London. I'll be like, God damn,
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to this one he finds hell. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: do you ever come to the UK? I did look
Speaker 1: up in London. Was in the UK, but it is
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I've been to London in
Speaker 1: the UK and then they just call it's something else, Mandy,
Speaker 1: listen shut But then it's right there, you know, the Kingdom.
Speaker 1: But then I know there's another part of Europe. It's
Speaker 1: not all the United like, it's just different. So I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been in London. But anyway, he's Arab, bitch, he's
Speaker 1: an Arab. And I was like, bitch, I will give
Speaker 1: up baking for you, and that is I just would
Speaker 1: a buslom right. They don't like baking you Really, the
Speaker 1: UK was the country, dude, There also the EU and
Speaker 1: there's other ship. Listen. It was just shut the funk
Speaker 1: out anyway. Anyway, that is where that is Marcus, bitch.
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yes, you didn't even know the geography
Speaker 1: of Ohio, bitch. We have to the Cleveland Show because
Speaker 1: they know the geography, and that is you got damn
Speaker 1: United States of goddamn America. Anyways, this nigga, well he's
Speaker 1: who ended up on my feed. That is beautiful is
Speaker 1: where I got my first icebreaker question for you. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, what is the food you
Speaker 1: cannot live without? The food I cannot live without. It's
Speaker 1: not really a food but ice cream. Okay, So here's
Speaker 1: the thing. My question to you is you start dating
Speaker 1: a guy who is perfect until you find out that
Speaker 1: he is extremely allergic to ice cream? Do you break
Speaker 1: up with him? Or do you give up ice cream cream? Right? Look,
Speaker 1: what is like your favorite food? It's she can't live
Speaker 1: without ice cream? That is her favorite food. I can
Speaker 1: train someone to be perfect, I can't train someone's allergy.
Speaker 1: We can't even kiss after I eat ice cream. I can't. Okay,
Speaker 1: I ask she is, and I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take nobody but tell you right now, I'll be
Speaker 1: stressed going out with her. If ever fos over me,
Speaker 1: I know it's because another bitch was making breakfast, Like
Speaker 1: I really feel like that sea because there's only so
Speaker 1: much avocado toast. I could, dude, but I ain't even
Speaker 1: gonna hold you. We was in Chicago and I went
Speaker 1: to this place called Yoke. I love eggs. I'd be
Speaker 1: like you, I'm gonna go to breakfast. Sorry, you probably
Speaker 1: can't eat here, mind, y'all. I shared a story when
Speaker 1: we were younger. I took her to a soul food restaurant.
Speaker 1: Forgot that cheese, mom and M's forgot big mac and
Speaker 1: cheese has egg. She was like, let me try to
Speaker 1: make a cheese bitch. I thought she was about to
Speaker 1: die she started. I was like, oh, sh it's big
Speaker 1: mac and cheese. Bitch. My bad. And so I don't
Speaker 1: think I could date someone with bro I don't think
Speaker 1: I could. So let me ask you, what is the
Speaker 1: food you cannot live without? And would you be willing
Speaker 1: to give it up if you found the perfect man?
Speaker 1: You're seeing the perfect man over food? Yes, the food
Speaker 1: I came about cheese? You can't? Right? Is you giving
Speaker 1: up cheese to be with a nigga? You said, the
Speaker 1: perfect nigga, but he's not affect. If he's allergic to
Speaker 1: the thing that you love the most, everything else is
Speaker 1: everything else is good? You would give up cheese? I
Speaker 1: probably gonnadict to like sour cream or something else with that,
Speaker 1: like fattiness na ice cream. You could. You could go
Speaker 1: onto other sweets. But but but Dick is like not
Speaker 1: a hard limit for me. I'm not gonna she's like
Speaker 1: a perfect person like perfect until you find out that
Speaker 1: like say that ship like, sorry, you gotta go. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying you're saying like the perfect Like so in
Speaker 1: my head, I'm really like Kofe and he's got like
Speaker 1: a great personality. I'm gonna give it up. You give
Speaker 1: it up cheese for Kofee. Jameson just talking about a
Speaker 1: nigga you run into on the subway. Calm down, you
Speaker 1: were talking about that perfect Okay, talking about perfection? All right,
Speaker 1: Maybe Deity face and said I had to go on
Speaker 1: that Coachella diet or she wouldn't be my friend. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, okay, done, I'll eat there. You're annoying. So
Speaker 1: the next question, Um, I actually want to ask this
Speaker 1: question because I want to see how how intimate I
Speaker 1: guess you are. Would you rather only be able to
Speaker 1: have sex in missionary position or only have sex from
Speaker 1: the back? Oh, definitely from the back, But I knew
Speaker 1: you all intimate like in the kids and shape, so
Speaker 1: you would never be cause you can't kiss from the
Speaker 1: back like yo, like you, I don't know you would
Speaker 1: do missionary over having from the back? Huh? Love missionary?
Speaker 1: Because I could like, see, I know it has to
Speaker 1: because I want it from the back, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say it. I'm looking up at the celn. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what I gotta do right, and then I'd be sweating
Speaker 1: the sweat drops into my face and intimacy. I know
Speaker 1: it from the back. I do come the hardest from
Speaker 1: Mr Missionary, from the fastest from Doggie, but like hard
Speaker 1: strong orgasmy is generally missionary. Okay, so I can see
Speaker 1: you want to missionary. The last icebreaker that I have
Speaker 1: is um. I guess the worst of the two evils. Um,
Speaker 1: would you rather have car secks or shower sex? Oh,
Speaker 1: shower sucks. I don't like showers. I remember the last
Speaker 1: time I fell out of the shower. No, that was dangerous.
Speaker 1: You fell out of the shower. It was a really
Speaker 1: small ash shower slipped Yeah, no into like deaf spin
Speaker 1: and like slow moons. I think it could be dangerous.
Speaker 1: Miss nasty be fall off a dildo on the shower.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but she I'll say, like, the
Speaker 1: shower is dangerous, but also my hair, um, And depending
Speaker 1: on you know this, we've I have. I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to go sit under the dryer at the
Speaker 1: Dominicans for ever the next day, because when you have
Speaker 1: someone's you don't want to get it wet because then
Speaker 1: it can start to stink. And I do someones or wigs,
Speaker 1: which also you can't get wet. So I don't really
Speaker 1: like shower sex. Also I'll be thinking on what and
Speaker 1: then it's also the shower making me wet. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think car sex not as wet in the shower,
Speaker 1: I'm not. But also sex in the car too, but
Speaker 1: my niggas be big, so it just don't be great.
Speaker 1: Well see not see, I am one of those that
Speaker 1: are not in the car. I've had some of my
Speaker 1: sex the car. Okay, I call that road side assistance.
Speaker 1: So I've never had sex on a car. Really, ill
Speaker 1: have term like in the rain and the fact that
Speaker 1: I'm not in jail to this version. Else did we
Speaker 1: have on here boy because he said he was giving
Speaker 1: head in the car. No, it was on the hood
Speaker 1: of the car on the Jersey term pipe, but it
Speaker 1: was the car, not hot. It was in the summer,
Speaker 1: was on top of the car, pulled over on the shoulder.
Speaker 1: Road Side assistance coming from Atlantic City. Shower sex if
Speaker 1: it's a woman so shower sex if it's a woman.
Speaker 1: Car sex was what a woman really strapped and damn
Speaker 1: you have sex I ever had with scissors was in
Speaker 1: a bathtub, like but it was empty. I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell you because you're gonna judge me. You judged
Speaker 1: all the time. So I was on my pod. She
Speaker 1: was on her period. Okay, why you're disgusting, bro, just
Speaker 1: going in the shower does not make your period. You
Speaker 1: didn't want to because thank you, go ahead, I'm judging,
Speaker 1: but go ahead. She didn't want to have sex because
Speaker 1: she was on a period. I was like, y'all, like,
Speaker 1: come on, like what are we going to the bathtup?
Speaker 1: She's like fine, So we go on the bathtub and
Speaker 1: obviously we loved a scissor, so we basically like let
Speaker 1: the shower around when we were on the bat in
Speaker 1: the bathtub, but that she was started turning pink around, y'all,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know, really grows just like the color of feminism.
Speaker 1: Didn't see the blood, but you convintion what did she
Speaker 1: the bloo? Because you were probably looking at her face.
Speaker 1: You didn't look down to see if y'all were scissor,
Speaker 1: are gonna pull the blood. This this is really disgusting.
Speaker 1: Actually believe us when you have it. That's heard that
Speaker 1: contractions just not with dicks going and I don't know
Speaker 1: dick's going in the out's gonna make you bleed hotly
Speaker 1: bled on my nigga's comforter, who I've already expressed to
Speaker 1: y'all was O C. D. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: It was already over. But he sucked the ship out
Speaker 1: of me. And it was a day later and I
Speaker 1: was like smooth sailing, like clean, like you could eat it. Bro.
Speaker 1: I wake up. I'm in the shower and he's like,
Speaker 1: are you in your period? Were like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know I'm not. He's like, okay, because uh I
Speaker 1: just got the I got on the comforter. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh well it must have been another bitch like I
Speaker 1: just put it on his brain new the last night
Speaker 1: he did and I saw it and I was like,
Speaker 1: was it a lot? No? But like I feel like
Speaker 1: he got the last ship out from the period. You
Speaker 1: know what it wasn't. That was so fucking embarrassing. I
Speaker 1: felt like he didn't even want to tell me because
Speaker 1: he was like already wrapping it up and putting in
Speaker 1: the washing machine because he knew I was gonna free
Speaker 1: because he's already so O c D. But like it's
Speaker 1: just easy. How niggas could really get that ship back
Speaker 1: out of you, That's what I'm saying, Like I won't
Speaker 1: even like if I'm on my last day, Like there
Speaker 1: was a niggas who was in town recently and I
Speaker 1: was on my last day, so we could have like
Speaker 1: it was it was gone, Like I wasn't wiping it
Speaker 1: no more. But I knew if he put his dick
Speaker 1: in me, he would either pull more out or he
Speaker 1: would knock get back on. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: y'all know, this ship, my peerent is only three days long,
Speaker 1: but if I fucked at the end, you're gonna make
Speaker 1: my peerd go another to three days. It just happens.
Speaker 1: I've tried it before and I was over my peerent
Speaker 1: on three days thinking the ship went to five after
Speaker 1: and I was like, never aget, Like like the blood
Speaker 1: that's there, it's already like it's old blood, right, so
Speaker 1: like this just can't well, he popped the bubble and
Speaker 1: more came out. I was just the ship was nasty. Walnut. No,
Speaker 1: the walnut is when I squirt, bitch, that's different. Or
Speaker 1: maybe it's the bubble of the blood came out. Shut up. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get it to our vanilla ship. For those
Speaker 1: of you who UM, this is your first time listening
Speaker 1: to us, maybe you found us through liquid Um. We
Speaker 1: do a segment where we talk about X in the
Speaker 1: news and this one was actually shipped by liquid Um.
Speaker 1: This one comes from NBC news dot Com. A Michigan
Speaker 1: man has been charged in Grinder slaying. So Grinder, for
Speaker 1: those of you who may not know, is a dating
Speaker 1: app for gay men. I don't want to say the
Speaker 1: name just because I don't want to put these people
Speaker 1: out there because they have family and loved ones. But
Speaker 1: a man by the name Mark, which most white people
Speaker 1: are named Mark Um was charged in the killing of
Speaker 1: a gay hairstylist, Kevin Um, who was last seeing Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve before going to meet a man he met on
Speaker 1: the app. Um it says, Mark, who is fifty, was
Speaker 1: arraigned on charges of murder and mutilation. Michigan State Police
Speaker 1: officer Dave Kaiser declined to release any additional information UM,
Speaker 1: but basically, Kevin, who was a student, told his roommate
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve that he was leaving to meet a
Speaker 1: man he found on Grinder, which is a popular gay
Speaker 1: dating app. Later the night, the roommates said that he
Speaker 1: received a text from Kevin saying he was having fun
Speaker 1: it might not make it home that night. When Kevin
Speaker 1: did not appear at his parents house on Christmas Day,
Speaker 1: he was reported missing. Um It says that Kevin's car
Speaker 1: was found his belongings in a parking lot in Clayton Township,
Speaker 1: close to where he lived, and his mutilated body was
Speaker 1: found later December UM in a city four miles away. Um,
Speaker 1: you said you heard that the guy was eating him
Speaker 1: in the In another article, Uh huh. It described that
Speaker 1: he had him hanging off the ceiling fan and ate
Speaker 1: some of him, so they called him the Hannibal. We
Speaker 1: did the craziest sex crimes. So is that a regular Patreon?
Speaker 1: It might have been a patreon. UM. I really loved
Speaker 1: that one. So we talked about like sex crimes, the
Speaker 1: weirdest ones around the world, and one of them was
Speaker 1: a dude that like cooked the woman that he killed.
Speaker 1: It should yeah, like um and it's crazy because um
Speaker 1: and Hannibal, is I like her beauty inside of Harrison.
Speaker 1: So um, Hannibal was a serial killer who did actually
Speaker 1: keep certain parts of the audi and cooked it and
Speaker 1: ate it. Um. It's fucking nasty as fuck. Um. But
Speaker 1: there's something else recently did the I don't know. I'll
Speaker 1: be watching Matt Serial Killers ship, but I did think
Speaker 1: with cats because he mutilated the body he ain't eat,
Speaker 1: you know, but there's something I just saw recently where
Speaker 1: they was eating. Ship. Anyways, I'll be watching Matt serial
Speaker 1: Killer ship. That's like my thing, which isn't good. But
Speaker 1: I'm not a serial but I'd really be liking that ship.
Speaker 1: And Netflix really makes me. It's I feel like it's
Speaker 1: training me to kill because so my name on Netflix
Speaker 1: is Wheezy, and the ship will email me and be
Speaker 1: like top fix picks for Wheezy. Don't funk with cats,
Speaker 1: Moms who murder wives with knives like abducted in plain sight,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, this is audition. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it all. My WiFi is how to get away with
Speaker 1: murder and I almost got away with it. Also, there's
Speaker 1: more well there and there's another one um, and it's
Speaker 1: it kind of goes into what is it criminal? My
Speaker 1: hunner good as it goes into like the psychology of
Speaker 1: the FBI unit that searches like the criminal mind ship,
Speaker 1: why do we love this? And like what era are
Speaker 1: we in? My mom could stay up for hours watching
Speaker 1: I D and then we'll call me at seven in
Speaker 1: the morning and be like, did you lock your door
Speaker 1: last night? I mean, that's how it gets. So I
Speaker 1: was going to drop my big old box because I
Speaker 1: just bought a box spring. So I want to drop
Speaker 1: my boxes because I have to take him to another building.
Speaker 1: And there was a nice man, um one of the
Speaker 1: maintenance men who worked in my complex, and he was
Speaker 1: so nice that I was scared that evening because he
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, what building do you live in? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that one? And then why did I
Speaker 1: tell him that I did? I thought he took the
Speaker 1: box he can see even the apartment number. I'm in.
Speaker 1: Nothing about a nice maintenance man. And in my mind,
Speaker 1: I just gave a serial killer my address and we
Speaker 1: shouldn't think that's like, you know, Uber drivers be thinking
Speaker 1: they gotta talk for tip, not killing me tips. We
Speaker 1: are coming back to you this week with the Horrid
Speaker 1: Derv's segment, where we serve up a new sex tip
Speaker 1: every week. This one comes from one of our top
Speaker 1: tier patrons. Shout out to Tay Richie actually is helping
Speaker 1: me manage the group chat um for our patrons, and
Speaker 1: he said, use the tip of your fingers slash nails
Speaker 1: to tickle the balls and gooch. It provides a nice
Speaker 1: sensation while we're getting hit and when the spot starts
Speaker 1: dropping down and mixes with the tickle nigga all caps.
Speaker 1: I will say, However, if you are dealing with a
Speaker 1: man who does not want you down by the gooch,
Speaker 1: this is still something I think that needs to be compassion.
Speaker 1: I would say that sounds like that he said, nail,
Speaker 1: it don't matter, you'll get down there. He could, he
Speaker 1: could kick you so you could get your asshole. Gooch
Speaker 1: is the space between your testicles and your asshole right
Speaker 1: whe But if you're holding balls, you're technically touching the
Speaker 1: gooch because your nails are right there. I would still say,
Speaker 1: y'all know the type of niggas you fucking? I would
Speaker 1: still ask before because yeah, no, no, I was still asked.
Speaker 1: I've been really wanting to like finger my dudes ass
Speaker 1: whole and every time see like I played the podcast
Speaker 1: ones to find a minute mark for something. I think
Speaker 1: it was the holiday episode, and he heard peg this
Speaker 1: time and he goes, who is that is that? You
Speaker 1: was that many? I was like, that's Mandy and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, so you'll be paying because this is
Speaker 1: I'm okay, God damn. And then literally that episode we
Speaker 1: started talking about how you got to get a nigga
Speaker 1: wide open, just the clip he had to hear. He
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to be surprised. I don't
Speaker 1: want you to just let me like it's gonna ruin
Speaker 1: the time. It's funny because most most people think that,
Speaker 1: like I won't deal with a guy who doesn't let
Speaker 1: me peg him, which isn't the case. Like, there are
Speaker 1: a ton of guys where I share the craziest, wildest
Speaker 1: things I've done. Of course, pegging is the most wild
Speaker 1: and crazy to most people, so I share that and
Speaker 1: thing pegging and like the sex club ship, like niggas
Speaker 1: also think like a sex club like them should think this.
Speaker 1: So they're really into me doing like being at the
Speaker 1: sex club, but pegging is still and then it gets
Speaker 1: into the whole thing and they're like, So there are
Speaker 1: men that I've talked to that aren't okay with them,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, it's okay. You cannot be okay. And
Speaker 1: as I used to think pegging was the craziest thing
Speaker 1: I've ever done, but then I ate that cream pie.
Speaker 1: So then you had periods sense which which one's worse?
Speaker 1: What hold on you is worse than pegging? Yes, what's
Speaker 1: the problem this? It's blood? You have it every month.
Speaker 1: It's literally your body. Do you know I cringe every
Speaker 1: time I wipe. I don't like blood, bro, you don't
Speaker 1: need to get one of them, Like, God, damn it.
Speaker 1: Why do I have to be a woman. That's probably
Speaker 1: why I act like a nigger club. It's gotta be believed. Literally,
Speaker 1: it's only three days. Um, we are Um. Although we
Speaker 1: are moving away from this segment, I thought that we
Speaker 1: could still keep this segment in because why liquid is here.
Speaker 1: So the kink of the week and what we're gonna
Speaker 1: dive into for the horrible decision is none other than
Speaker 1: leather subculture. Um. And so the leather subculture, which I
Speaker 1: want you to um hop in here any point. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get through this and then we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: into what leather subculture is and dive into this. So
Speaker 1: the leather subculture, which is the kink guys. Dnotes practices
Speaker 1: and styles of dress organized around sexual activities that involve
Speaker 1: leather garments, such as leather jackets, vests, boots, chaps, harnesses,
Speaker 1: or other items. Wearing leather garments is one way that
Speaker 1: participants in this culture self consciously distinguish themselves from mainstream
Speaker 1: and sexual cultures. Many participants associate leather culture with b
Speaker 1: D s M, and it's many subcultures. First, some black
Speaker 1: leather clothing is an erotic fashion that expresses heightened masculinity
Speaker 1: or the appropriation of sexual power. So the love of motorcycles,
Speaker 1: motorcycle clubs and independence and or engagement and sexual kink
Speaker 1: or leather fetishism. That was That was good right that
Speaker 1: I literally was was texting Liquid this morning, like girl,
Speaker 1: I found this. You know about this, We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about this. So this is something although we we've I've
Speaker 1: worn leather um at the live show last year in
Speaker 1: d c UM and when I think of Dominatrix, of
Speaker 1: course I think of of leather. But we've never really
Speaker 1: talked about leather subculture. You talk about wearing chokers and
Speaker 1: even your ball gag was leather, right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I like the what was I gonna say, like the
Speaker 1: chokers with the long not like a leash, but the
Speaker 1: thing the fringe. And I wear harnesses with a lot
Speaker 1: of my clothes to leather harnesses. But I didn't know
Speaker 1: I was like turning on. Yeah, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you in terms of leather, where
Speaker 1: does arousal come out of wearing it? Does it come
Speaker 1: more out of seeing someone in it? What? Where does
Speaker 1: the sexual aspect of leather? It depends and it varies
Speaker 1: from person to person, like for me personally leather having
Speaker 1: a leather heart and a leather lifestyle. You don't have
Speaker 1: to own leather to be leather. Okay you said a
Speaker 1: leather heart. Yeah, I have a leather heart. I like that. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't have to own leather to be leather. You know,
Speaker 1: prior to leather lifestyle being a big thing, there was
Speaker 1: always leather LEVI people who wore jeans with their leather
Speaker 1: chaps and things. So you know, I know many people
Speaker 1: shore leather lifestyle that you know, they wear their pins
Speaker 1: and everything else on their geane jackets and leather. It's expensive.
Speaker 1: Not now it is can't afford leather, but um, pleather,
Speaker 1: it's also another option guy. You know, for me it
Speaker 1: encompasses you know, the dom and me the strength the top.
Speaker 1: You know, it is sexy to look at. Um. It
Speaker 1: makes me feel good and powerful when I'm out. But um,
Speaker 1: some people it for men, mostly that strong masculinity, so
Speaker 1: you know when you see them in full on formal uniform,
Speaker 1: formal gear. You know, some people like yourself, were harnesses.
Speaker 1: I love wearing harness. I love harnesses too. And we
Speaker 1: talked about this. Is there a difference between leather and latex?
Speaker 1: There isn't a For me, there isn't a difference. I
Speaker 1: love yeah both. Yeah. I thought maybe they would be like,
Speaker 1: but you have late liquids. Leather it okay for me,
Speaker 1: I wear both. Okay, I don't wear both at the
Speaker 1: same time. That's that's just I was about to say
Speaker 1: that could be hot burn. Um. Something that I found,
Speaker 1: um and that I wanted to bring into just the
Speaker 1: kink of the week before we dive into leather and
Speaker 1: kink is something that I found called a leather bar.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if you know of any in
Speaker 1: New York or anywhere that you've been really, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. So a leather bar in America is
Speaker 1: a bar frequented by gays, often sayto Massacus, dressed typically
Speaker 1: in leather garments. Um. And this is of course where
Speaker 1: the word origin of leather bar comes from. Um. Do
Speaker 1: you have to wear leather to get into these bars?
Speaker 1: And in what area are leather bars in New York
Speaker 1: or anywhere else? You been everywhere? Um? Most of them
Speaker 1: are down in Chelsea and in the village around that area. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the ones that I frequent is Eagle, NYC.
Speaker 1: Its male. But so and there's typical rules for leather bars,
Speaker 1: especially that are frequented by men. Do you know some
Speaker 1: some of those rules? Yes? Okay, what's the rules for bar?
Speaker 1: If you're going in as a woman. You cannot wear
Speaker 1: any perfume, right because they like their natural smells and
Speaker 1: that is very interesting and fucking an ass and gets
Speaker 1: that smell. They don't want to smell perfume and high
Speaker 1: fem things like that. It takes away Oh wow, did
Speaker 1: you did you notice that at the leather bar that
Speaker 1: you went to there? No, I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was like a serious fucking leather so like the Eagle
Speaker 1: I went to and had a leather night and I
Speaker 1: know it's a leather bar, so the leather so okay,
Speaker 1: So there's a leather but they weren't requiring it, so
Speaker 1: it's not. Man, it's not mandatory. It is a leather bar,
Speaker 1: but it's not mandatory. There is a close check when
Speaker 1: you walk in, so most people check their clothes at
Speaker 1: the close check. In the country, it's always like the skanky, dirty,
Speaker 1: grimy gay bar. I don't know why, right Austin when
Speaker 1: we were reading, I'm like, EGO, don't think he was
Speaker 1: like yeah, and that one's gross, but we love it,
Speaker 1: like every fucking eagle. Is it interest at a franchise
Speaker 1: because you have DC ego, you have a franchise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'll be there on the seventeenth um for
Speaker 1: mid Atlantic Leather. But you also have San Francisco Ego.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. So guys, if you're interested in going to
Speaker 1: a leather bar, um, you can look up the eagle
Speaker 1: in your city and see if one is there. What
Speaker 1: are other rules if one of our listeners wants to
Speaker 1: go to an other bar, So, ladies, if you want
Speaker 1: to go, don't wear perfumes, perving, perving, perving. Perferving is staring,
Speaker 1: but in a way that it's more than that. It's
Speaker 1: just like if someone is in a scene and they're playing,
Speaker 1: give them their space. You don't stand up and hover
Speaker 1: over someone. It throws them. Well, Um, if you guys
Speaker 1: are interested in going to sex clubs, um a lot
Speaker 1: of times like you do. Like people will let you
Speaker 1: know if they want to be washed or if they
Speaker 1: don't want to be washed, or you can make people
Speaker 1: uncomfortable even though you're you're you want to be a
Speaker 1: voyor there's a way to voider without making someone uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: So you want to watch people engaging in sex from
Speaker 1: a distance, you definitely don't want to hover over them.
Speaker 1: So I like that. So no perving. I didn't know
Speaker 1: there was a name for that. Uh. Consent, consent, consent,
Speaker 1: you know, don't just assume because you're in another gay
Speaker 1: bar that you know you can touch jointing someone seen anything,
Speaker 1: even from you know, I've gotten to women are the
Speaker 1: worst in gay bars for the consent by the way,
Speaker 1: Yes they are and they're touching. Yeah, and it's not fair.
Speaker 1: It's not fair even even for us as women, like
Speaker 1: I think gay men approached it the same way too,
Speaker 1: because they figure, you know, well they know they don't
Speaker 1: want the gay men are touchy and women to gay
Speaker 1: men are touchy. So I think that that's something with
Speaker 1: consent that we haven't really touched on. Actually yeah, and
Speaker 1: that we should do that in spaces you have. Is
Speaker 1: it okay to hug you? Are you a handshaker? You know,
Speaker 1: things like that, because some people aren't into that. You know,
Speaker 1: some people don't like to be hugged. Um, I'm okay
Speaker 1: with being hugged if I have. I have my own rules.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't like my perfume, I don't like
Speaker 1: the smell of pits, So I'll shake your hand. I
Speaker 1: just did something a Google with shout out to Layla
Speaker 1: and her co host where the girl. She was so funny.
Speaker 1: She was like kind of tense. I remember when I
Speaker 1: hugged her for a second and then we all had
Speaker 1: drinks after, and she was like, I really don't like that.
Speaker 1: I just don't find it necessary. I don't need it,
Speaker 1: I don't want it. Like it's fine. So when I
Speaker 1: was leaving, like I patted her on the bag. I
Speaker 1: was like, I know, how comfortable, And she was like
Speaker 1: she looked at me like she was relieved. It's crazy
Speaker 1: because I always hug people and I always ask for consent,
Speaker 1: and never I was gonna say, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: I asked for consent problems either, And I kiss on
Speaker 1: the cheek like I'm a lot and I forget that
Speaker 1: fucking people don't like this ship bro In a world
Speaker 1: where everything seems to be heightened, you know, I'm always weary,
Speaker 1: especially in places where B D S, M. Kink you know,
Speaker 1: is involved, because consent violation is a huge issue, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's something that is talked about, but not in
Speaker 1: a way that it should. Everything always escalates to social
Speaker 1: media when it tried it, you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: three years later, you violated my consent and instead of
Speaker 1: bringing it to you that day, three years later on
Speaker 1: bringing up now on social So that's what else I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you in these spaces again because of
Speaker 1: social media. So in sex clubs literally or in the
Speaker 1: Nude Beach, even at Hedonism when we went in Jamaica,
Speaker 1: they literally like there's like an unspoken almost no phone policy.
Speaker 1: So in leather bars because people are in chaps or
Speaker 1: maybe dressed a certain way that maybe they don't dress
Speaker 1: in a corporate setting. Is there a phone policy that
Speaker 1: they require at all? Do you know so in in
Speaker 1: leather bars the same as in like rope spaces, because
Speaker 1: I do a lot of rope. You do do a
Speaker 1: lot of rope. Yes. We have a thing where we say,
Speaker 1: if you're going to take pictures, ask the person first.
Speaker 1: Don't be like, oh, let me take a picture and
Speaker 1: then take the picture and the persons like I didn't
Speaker 1: allow you to do that, But you asked the person beforehand.
Speaker 1: Is it okay to take a picture. You make sure
Speaker 1: there is no one else and take a picture of
Speaker 1: that person, because again you don't know, you know, who
Speaker 1: knows what or what people are doing for me. I'm
Speaker 1: open about my ship. I'm never running for president. I
Speaker 1: have so much out on the internet it doesn't make
Speaker 1: a difference to me. But but party, it's see, it's
Speaker 1: crazy how all the world thinks I know the same
Speaker 1: things I know. I've read the sex pod. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want that. Also went to a sex party and a
Speaker 1: girl was like, yo, like let's take a picture and
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely not, Like oh wow, no, we
Speaker 1: were totally close, we were outside of it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I don't know what it is. So
Speaker 1: even we talked about it, even you at Hedonism, you
Speaker 1: were like, damn, I know people were having sex publicly,
Speaker 1: but you did say you're scared what if someone records
Speaker 1: you and scissors or you and a man doing anything.
Speaker 1: You still don't want that intimate level out. So you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would do anything because in the
Speaker 1: front Hedonism was not a place where I found out
Speaker 1: that people would do that. But like it hit me
Speaker 1: when you were in the pool dancing that there's always
Speaker 1: one yeah, and even though you didn't care, he didn't
Speaker 1: know if you cared, it wasn't a big deal. Like
Speaker 1: she was in the pool right and it was daytime,
Speaker 1: fully closed. But I was like, I just saw this
Speaker 1: guy with with this go pro and I noticed it,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like, like I said, like many cared,
Speaker 1: but like I know she didn't see it initially, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, well, what if you didn't want it?
Speaker 1: That's the thing though, too, I will say most people
Speaker 1: in this space do respect that. So I actually was
Speaker 1: able to attend a few days of Moka Fest when
Speaker 1: I was in um did I go to Cancoon part
Speaker 1: of Mexico was on yeah, little bit like what part
Speaker 1: of Mexico was? I did to lose the first listen
Speaker 1: geography geography, so I wasn't. I was a Kidcoon and
Speaker 1: Moca Fest and I remember, um, we were in the pool.
Speaker 1: There was a pool party day and they had girls
Speaker 1: go up on stage and twerk and it was a
Speaker 1: turk contest and then they pulled out the bananas. And
Speaker 1: at that moment, like literally, the DJ was like, yo,
Speaker 1: everybody take their fucking phones away. He paused the whole
Speaker 1: thing because he was like, Nick, you did you not
Speaker 1: listen to me? Embarrass him was like, oh, you must
Speaker 1: not get pussy like literally, because you want to allow
Speaker 1: people to have a very good time. But also a
Speaker 1: lot of people in this space do have corporate jobs.
Speaker 1: You and I, you know, came from corporate America where
Speaker 1: we didn't want people to necessarily know we were going
Speaker 1: to sex clubs, or we feared our coworkers seeing that,
Speaker 1: or that so much association with like that anything next
Speaker 1: to you. My agent literally said to me, like, I
Speaker 1: get that, your sex pot is why Wheezy is a
Speaker 1: person and is a thing where she's branching out. She
Speaker 1: told me that, Like, there was this vibrating company that
Speaker 1: wanted to do something with me. She was like, you
Speaker 1: cannot take pictures with a vibrator. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fund is the big deal? I fucking put
Speaker 1: on a diaper on my show. And she's like, the
Speaker 1: things that I am pitching you for, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: She's like, sex pot is cool, don't put a vibrator
Speaker 1: in your hand. She's like, literally talk about the vibrator.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. That's where I'm like, even even
Speaker 1: with our past, which is why I'm trying to like
Speaker 1: the things that I'm doing solo won't be sex associated.
Speaker 1: Because like I had the opportunity to do a brand
Speaker 1: deal with I won't say their name because them they
Speaker 1: didn't give me check, but we were talking with them. Um,
Speaker 1: I had my girl who pitches me to too brands,
Speaker 1: and so it was a company that fixes to teeth
Speaker 1: and clearly I'm getting you know, I want Visilne or
Speaker 1: whatever the is maybe to fix my teeth without going
Speaker 1: the bracest route. And so we're having this back and
Speaker 1: forth with them, and literally this company was like I
Speaker 1: love her engagement, I love her you know, everything that
Speaker 1: we but our youngest consumer it's twelve, and so because
Speaker 1: our youngest consumer is twelve, she doesn't align with what
Speaker 1: she and Booty actually told me the thing about how
Speaker 1: she won't take a picture with a vibrator either either,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because she is PAP and is fuck
Speaker 1: known as a sex educator, but won't take a picture
Speaker 1: with a vibrator. And it's to me that shows you
Speaker 1: the correlation between like you could talk it, but like
Speaker 1: once we see it, like it's just something about that image.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about photos and what's
Speaker 1: those things. Our very first photos shoot for Horrible Decisions,
Speaker 1: we had a dial dough that ship got removed star right, yes,
Speaker 1: so we don't even do deals womanizer that I've done
Speaker 1: with the duel. It's not really the shape of a penis,
Speaker 1: So I like, I was, okay, look like a guy,
Speaker 1: damn vulval like, but anything with the dick shaped, like
Speaker 1: I remember, even our very first live show, we tried
Speaker 1: to put our Horrible Decisions logo um on Snapchat and
Speaker 1: because the fucking bananas insinuated a dick, we Snapchat won't
Speaker 1: allow our filter and every way, but I wrote a
Speaker 1: sketch that got accepted by a show network thing. Literally,
Speaker 1: they had so many questions about horrible decisions that I
Speaker 1: didn't even want to give it to them anymore. I
Speaker 1: was like, this isn't even about sex. Do you guys
Speaker 1: think it's funny? It was a scene I set up
Speaker 1: in a restaurant. You want it, and now you're so
Speaker 1: fucking worried about everybody stockstick. Let's be very everybody. Every
Speaker 1: everybody guys for y'all, not everybody, but most people, mostly,
Speaker 1: most people. Most people do. She said, sutic, I know, suctic.
Speaker 1: I know, mom, this tectic grandma grandma sucking this year
Speaker 1: twenty nine. He and I went from now you know
Speaker 1: she was a grandma. She could have just been Oh
Speaker 1: with no kids, don't call her grandma. Not everybody having kids. Okay,
Speaker 1: i'm ama, you are not a mema. I have adult children.
Speaker 1: So um, you are watching this YouTube. I can't believe
Speaker 1: it either? Can we can? We are? We are we
Speaker 1: allowed to ask what? No? You don't ask her age.
Speaker 1: You can't ever ask a woman her age? And women
Speaker 1: I come my youngest is fifteen, son, okay, okay, can
Speaker 1: you believe it? I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, when I asked the thirty, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Yeah, that's crazy, Okay, so you saw.
Speaker 1: So I went to Beach Pine, which is like this
Speaker 1: amazing rope event that is held at het and it's
Speaker 1: a two week event of rope and kink and debauchery
Speaker 1: and all this fun stuff. And it's like six am
Speaker 1: and should I could barely get up on a regular
Speaker 1: day when I have to go to work, but while
Speaker 1: I'm on vacation, I seen to wake up early every time.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, let me go make a
Speaker 1: tate by the beach. I saw a shell boy he's
Speaker 1: selling some ship and I'm like, yeah, hey Tanning, and
Speaker 1: I'm hearing this noise in my left there you go,
Speaker 1: and I go to turn my head over and this
Speaker 1: woman had to be in her seventies and she's blowing
Speaker 1: out her man. So I turned to the right and
Speaker 1: here's do going down on his girl, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: funk man. So I'm like looking straight now. And then
Speaker 1: you have a woman who's tied to a tree and
Speaker 1: she's blowing her man, and I'm like, am I the
Speaker 1: fucking only one? Am? I the only one. Now do
Speaker 1: you know what it was? It's because like I meditated
Speaker 1: for a day and then like chicot weird. Then I
Speaker 1: went to the gym and then got speakers to heat.
Speaker 1: She's like going to the gym this morning. Were so
Speaker 1: we're so on over? I said, why is there a
Speaker 1: anyone in the gym on them? What is so like?
Speaker 1: Un the funk up being up since five am? This
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Speaker 1: get into the horrible decision. Of course, it is leather
Speaker 1: and kink Um Liquid has participated in the We Are
Speaker 1: Leather Women project, which brings awareness to the contributions of
Speaker 1: women in the leather community. I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: that and kind of the history of women joining the
Speaker 1: leather community because for when I was looking into it.
Speaker 1: Most of the history did start more with gay mails.
Speaker 1: So can you talk about women now being a part
Speaker 1: of the leather community women. I've actually been a part
Speaker 1: of the love of crenew for years. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I came up with a little twenty years ago, and
Speaker 1: I came up um in the scene with gay men,
Speaker 1: So I was like the token fem and UM. I
Speaker 1: used to go to parties and events in the city
Speaker 1: and the first place that I went to back then
Speaker 1: was the Vault. The Vault was this underground sex club
Speaker 1: that became a huge thing amongst celebrities, and you had
Speaker 1: different floors and this is in New York. Yeah, fourteen, Um,
Speaker 1: it's not there anymore. It ended up getting shut down,
Speaker 1: didn't we get a trapeze shut down to down too? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you would go through these floors and you would
Speaker 1: see everything from sex, spanking, wax play, all of those things.
Speaker 1: And from my first month or so of attending, I
Speaker 1: was like knee deep into it, literally, And I met
Speaker 1: so many women through going to these events because you
Speaker 1: had to know someone to get into these places, and
Speaker 1: there weren't but a few women of color. Oh that
Speaker 1: we're openly out there because kink was still taboo, you know,
Speaker 1: and then being it still is. I mean, we still
Speaker 1: get quite the reactions from some of the conversations we
Speaker 1: have on end, which is why we're we're trying to
Speaker 1: normalize just a little bit. But like, yeah, like so
Speaker 1: the fact that you've been in it for twenty years,
Speaker 1: you're seeing more women of color now into it. What
Speaker 1: else did this space bring and and you know, what
Speaker 1: did you bring to it? My my dominant perspective of
Speaker 1: being a strong black because we're as black women and
Speaker 1: just as a black culture in general. When in kink
Speaker 1: we're fetishized. We talked about that, Yes, we are fetishized
Speaker 1: from like the moment we walk in. Our narrative is
Speaker 1: written by the people that are in that room. So
Speaker 1: you have um women who they automatically expect to be submissive,
Speaker 1: you know, in some spaces, and that's that's far far
Speaker 1: from it. I thought it was the opposite. And I
Speaker 1: thought that, like, if you're fetishizing a black girl and
Speaker 1: like the king space because you want them to dumb you,
Speaker 1: I always thought not in every instance, No, you have
Speaker 1: white men that want to own black women. You have
Speaker 1: because you have white men who want to own black
Speaker 1: men as slaves because we're always talking female. So it's
Speaker 1: like I was about, Yeah, a lot of the domes.
Speaker 1: Of course, we we interview um black women in the space,
Speaker 1: and so you have the doms. But most of the
Speaker 1: time they want the men want to be sub to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my people that I come across, and they know because
Speaker 1: I demand a presence when I walk in a room,
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of the people I interact with,
Speaker 1: even my clients, are all submissive, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: what I bring to the table. But I do get
Speaker 1: a lot of young women in kink that don't necessarily know,
Speaker 1: so they're easily preyed upon as predators come in and oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll help you and I'll mentor you and
Speaker 1: help you navigate, and then they end up screwed in
Speaker 1: some situation. But if you look on places like fat Life,
Speaker 1: fat Life has a white men for niggers or and
Speaker 1: e er niggers, no niggers, only have you met women
Speaker 1: that are okay with playing that role? Like do you
Speaker 1: know many women of color that play that role? Every little?
Speaker 1: But I went into the group just to be nosy,
Speaker 1: and I was just like I was cringing at the
Speaker 1: who the fucking their right mind there? We both said,
Speaker 1: that's what they're like, BBC. All we're not gonna talk
Speaker 1: about BBC. You know, I'm curious you who only likes
Speaker 1: black cock. I can't help it. I like it. Ton't
Speaker 1: even call it. Okay, I don't even call it, but
Speaker 1: I do like that point. You know, white people made it.
Speaker 1: We call the bb D. I wouldn't say nothing, but well,
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna change. They don't even say
Speaker 1: it like that. If you go on to fat life
Speaker 1: and you look at those if you just in the
Speaker 1: search engine of fat Life, they're not they just like,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like, but I'm like, really, it's
Speaker 1: just like, so there's women that are seeking this from men,
Speaker 1: but a lot of a lot of the white men
Speaker 1: are wanting to actually only with a black man because
Speaker 1: of Yah. Yeah, she's probably find it on barn hup
Speaker 1: to rep Tube everywhere. A wow. And so how do you,
Speaker 1: as a black woman come into this space and make
Speaker 1: sure you're not being taken advantage of because of your
Speaker 1: color or because of you being a black woman. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Everyone, I'm so sorry. The first
Speaker 1: thing that came up is white girls say the N word.
Speaker 1: Ultimate compilation. There's a compilation of white women saying the
Speaker 1: N word. Oh my, don't play it. No, no, because
Speaker 1: I know you'd be liking to ship. We don't need
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're about to do right now. That
Speaker 1: is face right. No, that is that is crazy that
Speaker 1: there's a compilation. But I wouldn't have thought that even
Speaker 1: with the men that I deal with, as far as
Speaker 1: in terms of my community and my Black brothers and
Speaker 1: my Spanish brothers who are in King. They post the
Speaker 1: conversations that they get on Grinder and other places where
Speaker 1: it's like let me suck your nigger dick and this
Speaker 1: that like people send them ship and I'm like, where
Speaker 1: in your mind is this okay? And they're thinking that
Speaker 1: this is a turn off, so that a black man
Speaker 1: or a Spanish man is supposed to be like, here,
Speaker 1: you can suck my dick now because you called me
Speaker 1: a nigger. Yeah that's bullshit. So so okay. So moving
Speaker 1: back into just being a a strong black woman in
Speaker 1: the space, where how do you move about not being
Speaker 1: preyed on? And for women who are looking to get
Speaker 1: into the space, what advice would you give to them
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're not being preyed upon on?
Speaker 1: So prey upon on all motherfucker's so scientists too. It's
Speaker 1: funny because I posted the other day someone had asked
Speaker 1: my question about I always joke about being solo Polly
Speaker 1: or single Polly, and um, someone asked, can you tell
Speaker 1: us what single poll is? So I am single, but
Speaker 1: I live a Polly life style. So I'm just right
Speaker 1: now I'm not seeing anyone because people are looking crazy.
Speaker 1: They are not only that, it's I seem to attract
Speaker 1: crazy vanilla folk and the kinky folk I timidate, which
Speaker 1: is odd. So wow, my resting bitch face scares people.
Speaker 1: Do you think, like, do you look for single people?
Speaker 1: Do you like taking couples? Do you I am mixed,
Speaker 1: so it depends on the interaction. I don't date sneaky people.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is if you are
Speaker 1: in a Polly relationship and your partner doesn't know that
Speaker 1: you're talking with me or engaging with me at all,
Speaker 1: I will gladly go into your d ms and into
Speaker 1: their d m s. And my, hey, that's so funny
Speaker 1: he said that, because that's our homes for I wanted
Speaker 1: big for transparencies like talk communication. Let's sidebar this really quick.
Speaker 1: Manby and I have said on this podcast, which we
Speaker 1: very very rarely agree. We don't agree on it, but
Speaker 1: we have both said we thought it wasn't right when
Speaker 1: women will go and tell another woman's no, don't say that.
Speaker 1: We're going to get into that. For the home it's
Speaker 1: actually want to know do you? What makes you do it?
Speaker 1: It's in our home mail. Don't ask you? God damn anyway,
Speaker 1: because before we get to that conversation question no, no, no,
Speaker 1: because you'll get the answer, because we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: that conversation at the end, but before we do. If
Speaker 1: you guys are watching on YouTube, you guys see colors
Speaker 1: sitting here and again, which I did my research. You're
Speaker 1: gonna let me teach the folks. God damn. I like
Speaker 1: the educational moments. So I found out something this is
Speaker 1: what bitch whoa. I'm going to get you a T
Speaker 1: shirt that's controlled freak. I literally like to make sure
Speaker 1: like we're talking about someone in a space like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about, so I was able to
Speaker 1: do a lot of research on this, and there's actually
Speaker 1: colors of leather and fetish. It's called the hanky code.
Speaker 1: The hanky code is a color coded system employed in
Speaker 1: the gay leather ad fetish community to indicate preferred sexual
Speaker 1: fetishes and rolls. And I thought this was very interesting,
Speaker 1: especially if you do decide to maybe go into a
Speaker 1: gay leather bar or just a leather bar as a woman,
Speaker 1: um to know kind of what these um colors mean.
Speaker 1: The history of the hanky code is that the wearing
Speaker 1: of various colored bandanas around the neck was common in
Speaker 1: the mid and late night teenth century among cowboys, team
Speaker 1: railroad engineers, and miners. Is thought that wearing the bandannas
Speaker 1: by gay men originated in San Francisco after the Gold Rush, when,
Speaker 1: because of a shortage of women, men dancing with each
Speaker 1: other and square dances developed a code. We're in the
Speaker 1: man wearing the blue bandana took the male part in
Speaker 1: the square dance, and the man wearing the red bandanna
Speaker 1: it's a female part um. So there's also, of course
Speaker 1: we know if you wear it out the left side,
Speaker 1: that's the crypt side. I know that from from Snoop Dog.
Speaker 1: But the top side okay, So let's all right in
Speaker 1: this community, A relevant a relevant element of the Hankey
Speaker 1: code is the location of where you put this. So
Speaker 1: wearing a color on the right side indicates that you
Speaker 1: are a bottom, while wearing the color on the left
Speaker 1: side indicates god damn hell up. So there's also it's
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot, so so left means top,
Speaker 1: right means bottom. But if you wear the hanky around
Speaker 1: your neck like it, I mean there was only one
Speaker 1: of the So we're gonna get into the colors, guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually I want weezy to guess some of these.
Speaker 1: The first one is really easy and you don't have
Speaker 1: the colors, so we're we're gonna say the first one
Speaker 1: and guess what it means. What do you think a
Speaker 1: yellow bandana means bottom? No, bitch, God damn it, that's
Speaker 1: the blot side of right side. What it's what sexual kink?
Speaker 1: Do you think yellow? And guess bitch? Okay, So if
Speaker 1: you wear a yellow bandanna means you like piss play? Um,
Speaker 1: you have what color here? And what does that stand for?
Speaker 1: Black means heavy M Yes, so you're says b D
Speaker 1: S M and I flag left you flag left on
Speaker 1: b DSM, which means you flag top. You flag top Um,
Speaker 1: the next color you have is red. Can you guess
Speaker 1: what red means? No, bit, it doesn't mean. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean what you think it means. Bit, No, bitch, it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean blood, but close close because it can like
Speaker 1: love it, man, it could cause blood. Bitch should get
Speaker 1: taken too much, you know. Okay? Anyways, so the red
Speaker 1: means that you are into fisting. You fisted, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was oh fingers damn, that's Kristen fist fisted a bit.
Speaker 1: So the next color, oh, okay, so that's left for
Speaker 1: me as well. So we have light blue and your
Speaker 1: fist blue. You fist, I got a little baby hands.
Speaker 1: Look at she fisting. But look, bitch, she got nails.
Speaker 1: You're fissing with nails. See I like it assisted both
Speaker 1: anal and vaginal with nails. Queen, bitch, let me see
Speaker 1: something true? Are you telling me right now? Yeah? We
Speaker 1: fingering budda holes and fist. But John, see your fist.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she has small hands that you do. So
Speaker 1: the next um. Colors in the hanky code are light
Speaker 1: blue and dark blue, which means two different things. So
Speaker 1: light blue means so actually these are similar variations. But
Speaker 1: if you are going by male um gay mail. One
Speaker 1: is um anal and one is fucker fucking Yes, there's fun.
Speaker 1: There's also jobs, they say for light. So light blue
Speaker 1: is like the baby light, Oh like a baby like okay,
Speaker 1: so these means fuck fucking fucker is that? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: both and then we got two more colors. So we
Speaker 1: got pink. I'm ready to see what you go to
Speaker 1: the right arm. Oh wait, you have two colors of pink. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what do the two colors ill? Girls? Rich cream pies,
Speaker 1: no proceed eating, no lesbians. So light pink means you all.
Speaker 1: You were got damn all. So she was a it's rush.
Speaker 1: She was just she was just throwing at every she thought.
Speaker 1: She's a little poor categories. So this I am actually switched. Okay,
Speaker 1: So your switch when it comes to dildo. So that
Speaker 1: means you'll wear the strap or take the strap, yes, okay?
Speaker 1: And then what is this color nipple torture? Is that
Speaker 1: what Joe um nipple sick fuck whatever, Nickele sick nile
Speaker 1: nipple nile. That is a goddamn song, twister, you know
Speaker 1: how that came out right stick simp niple fucking Anthony
Speaker 1: and I went out and I told him the whole
Speaker 1: story and he says nothing the whole time, right, and
Speaker 1: he wouldn't make me stop, and he goes, that's sick
Speaker 1: nipple fuck and that became a god damn nickname. And
Speaker 1: we have one more color. What does gray mean? Gray
Speaker 1: is bondage? Yes, so I am a rope bottom. You
Speaker 1: are a rope bottom. That is the only time I bottom.
Speaker 1: I like that. So we had Sir Dash in here,
Speaker 1: and he has his muses that he enjoys um tying up,
Speaker 1: but they do enjoy the act of being bonded as well.
Speaker 1: So I really like that. And because we these so
Speaker 1: had to have this conversation with you. Since you're now,
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you mentioned that you have clients,
Speaker 1: what do you do well in my vanilla life, which
Speaker 1: is very boring. I am a clinical social worker, yes, corporate,
Speaker 1: let's get it in your social worker. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: what I do my nine and five job. Because when
Speaker 1: you said my clients, and in my leather life and
Speaker 1: my kink life, I am a prodom and educator, presenter, model,
Speaker 1: so I do all of those. But yeah, I have
Speaker 1: to um that I've had for the past what to
Speaker 1: three years now, corporate clients that pay all my ship.
Speaker 1: How do they find you? Um? Actually one of them
Speaker 1: found me at a sex event. The other one found
Speaker 1: me on Seeking Arrangements. Think that site works much anymore? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it. So I have um one that I call
Speaker 1: Mr World Street and the other one I call Mr
Speaker 1: Finance because one is an attorney over here down the
Speaker 1: block and the other one works in finance. No, they're great. Um.
Speaker 1: I graduated with another master's in May. Um say that
Speaker 1: master because my my original was in forensic science and
Speaker 1: I was working in social work for the past fifteen years.
Speaker 1: And in order to go beyond that, you need your license.
Speaker 1: So I was like, let me go back and do
Speaker 1: it because my ultimate goal was to open up my
Speaker 1: own practice, but specializing in b D, S, M and
Speaker 1: kink for people of color who dealt with any type
Speaker 1: of sexual trauma. I love that. And that was a
Speaker 1: PC that I didn't even I didn't even know, So
Speaker 1: that's that's dope. And again, like we love being able
Speaker 1: to bring people on that are in this space, but
Speaker 1: that do not only solely live in this space. Like
Speaker 1: you can be corporate and go to sex clubs on
Speaker 1: the weekend. You can be maybe in a more submissive
Speaker 1: role at your job and then be a complete down
Speaker 1: when you go home. So I love that, Like, you're educated,
Speaker 1: you're going and you're wanting to actually also combine the two,
Speaker 1: so your education with making people in the space fel comfortable.
Speaker 1: So I really like that. That's really dope right now.
Speaker 1: I am. I just took on a role UM with
Speaker 1: the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom UM and they are
Speaker 1: basically volunteer base which across the country UM educating and
Speaker 1: UM pushing awareness for b d S, M and kink.
Speaker 1: But the great thing about it it's volunteer base, but
Speaker 1: you have attorneys, you have accountants, it's all of the
Speaker 1: because and I don't want it to sound condescending because
Speaker 1: obviously we have the show for a reason, be like,
Speaker 1: why do we need a coalition, Why do people need
Speaker 1: to be why do we need awareness of king? So
Speaker 1: the coalition is for a lot of things UM. You
Speaker 1: will see them at different events throughout the city, UM
Speaker 1: throughout the country. You can go to like UM. One
Speaker 1: of the events that I go to is UM a
Speaker 1: unity thing and it's for lgbt q I A plus
Speaker 1: people of color and it's a networking thing. You'll see
Speaker 1: them they're tabling because you have different avenues of kink
Speaker 1: and people in those spaces, but they don't often talk
Speaker 1: about it, you know, and fear of talking about it.
Speaker 1: It's also to keep the community safe because you have
Speaker 1: a lot of consent violators and when you're in kink
Speaker 1: and b D s M, everything is your fault if
Speaker 1: you go to the cops. So it's a big thing.
Speaker 1: So it's a place where you can go and report
Speaker 1: things like consent violations, consent rate and all of those things,
Speaker 1: and it will be documented. So if you ever wanted
Speaker 1: to know that if someone was a consent violator, you
Speaker 1: can reach out to them and they will let you know.
Speaker 1: They won't say who made the report, but they would say, yes,
Speaker 1: we've had so and so many reports about this person
Speaker 1: or so many reports about this event space, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's about keeping the community safe. I really like that,
Speaker 1: you know, because um, right now, what we do in
Speaker 1: the community is as far as being proactive about talking
Speaker 1: about consent violations is things usually spill over on both
Speaker 1: social media and that's when you hear about it, but
Speaker 1: of course no one ever gets facts. So the first
Speaker 1: thing everyone does is pull out the pitchforks and you
Speaker 1: know it's on a rant, but just reminded me of
Speaker 1: did you guys see the Kiki Wendy Williams thing? Wow,
Speaker 1: Wendy is shitty. Yeah, but I love how Kekey Palmer
Speaker 1: likes it. Didn't even like hit me until like I
Speaker 1: saw it the first time, but then watching it again,
Speaker 1: just maybe being more well versed in consent because that
Speaker 1: happened two years ago. He was like, why did I
Speaker 1: was like, what the fun? Yeah? The victim will always
Speaker 1: be blamed. He was like, well I did. Can I
Speaker 1: have a fucking minute? Actually, when you're in like an
Speaker 1: area where there are people who are prominent within the
Speaker 1: community or producers of events, no matter what you say,
Speaker 1: even if you have valid proof of like the abuse, consent, violation, pictures, photos,
Speaker 1: all of those things, their little lynch mob it's like
Speaker 1: the Trump Fest and you'll go and attack you with
Speaker 1: with those things and you're lying and you know that
Speaker 1: whole gas lighting thing, and it sucks and you become
Speaker 1: the outcast. Time well, speaking of all this ship and
Speaker 1: what we was trying to get to you to talk
Speaker 1: about earlier, because he didn't came in, you didn't even
Speaker 1: know he was gonna talk about this. So the homemaale
Speaker 1: protect it's homemale snitching on a married woman. Yeo, I
Speaker 1: foss with you too. So I met this girl somehow.
Speaker 1: It's the niggas. I'm really like a little nick. So
Speaker 1: I met this girl some so she h him you
Speaker 1: hit me up. A couple of months later and we
Speaker 1: hooked up. She lives in a different state, so I
Speaker 1: thought it would just be just when I'm in town thing.
Speaker 1: Early nineteen. We started talking all the time, and I
Speaker 1: pounded her a few more times and introduced her to
Speaker 1: a lot of kinky ship bondage, dom foot fetish. Then
Speaker 1: she tells me she's married but they've been doing their
Speaker 1: own thing for years, and was saying she wants to
Speaker 1: leave him for me. They have two kids that I
Speaker 1: met inbound with and I was working with her heavy,
Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, leave him. Long story short.
Speaker 1: When it came time to make it happen late nineteen,
Speaker 1: she kept making excuses. Then we fell out. She keeps
Speaker 1: saying I love you so much, I'm just scared to
Speaker 1: make the change, blah blah. I feel away because I
Speaker 1: was fine with being a side ting, but she kept
Speaker 1: pushing put puting I feel away anyway, she kept pushing
Speaker 1: for a relationship between us. So here's my question. Would
Speaker 1: it be wrong of me to out her to her
Speaker 1: husband like I wanted to send him screenshots and videos
Speaker 1: of us sucking at their apartment. Yes, I flew to
Speaker 1: her city. I didn't want to start the pot until
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of podcasts saying that never women
Speaker 1: never get caught cheating. L O L help her brother out. PS.
Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine sheets thirty and I'm coming to the
Speaker 1: Detroit show. See y'all there you go. Oh, we got
Speaker 1: to gotta bring him one that gotta be the home
Speaker 1: and we gotta do a live or not. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be the case to fucking Mary bitches. We're gonna bring
Speaker 1: you on anyway. Um oh wait, or maybe we did
Speaker 1: already because god damn this is after god damn Detroit Show.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna email him back. Um so, so, motherfucker
Speaker 1: you you are okay without it, and you don't have
Speaker 1: to He said videos that he said video sending videos
Speaker 1: and fucking that's a little much. But you said, if
Speaker 1: someone is coming to you and you see that they're
Speaker 1: in a relationship, you don't mind going to the person
Speaker 1: they're in a relationship with and saying you're person, your spouse,
Speaker 1: your girlfriend, your boyfriend is trying to talk to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that that that was the whole ship show that right,
Speaker 1: So that's a whole different thing. You know that you're
Speaker 1: the side thing umgory and you came into that dynamic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's not he it's coming out
Speaker 1: of place of malice. I'm saying it as if I
Speaker 1: know that there is a guy hitting me up on
Speaker 1: Instagram and he has a partner and they're both Polly.
Speaker 1: Whatever the case, maybe they're both Polly. Yes, even okay,
Speaker 1: I will messenge her. Hey, isn't it okay? So and
Speaker 1: so I was talking to me because I never want
Speaker 1: to look like some sneaky ass person. What if you
Speaker 1: don't if you know they're not what if you know
Speaker 1: they're not Polly? Oh no, same thing. Oh, same thing.
Speaker 1: So it's weird though, because so again I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I've had people follow me on I g like because
Speaker 1: their man was following me and nothing. You know, I've
Speaker 1: barely engaged with most people on the internet, Like I'll
Speaker 1: engage with people that I know or things like that
Speaker 1: we actually have mutual friends. When you said actually, I
Speaker 1: was like, yay, she brought her on. She was a
Speaker 1: guest on our show. I do want to make sure
Speaker 1: we're all in agreeance though, because it seems vengeful. We
Speaker 1: all agree that he no, no, I agree no, right,
Speaker 1: because it's coming from and she was like videos and
Speaker 1: not a place of informing. But more so, now you're
Speaker 1: hurt because she decided not to leave her partner for you.
Speaker 1: Is where I see that it's coming from, and that's
Speaker 1: out of malice. I'm not doing anything like that. I'm
Speaker 1: saying if you're saying that, because I'll ask straight out
Speaker 1: whether it's male, female, whoever? Does your partner know we're
Speaker 1: having this discussion. And if you say yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go introduce myself. And you've been in this type
Speaker 1: of yeah, I've never really been with a guy that
Speaker 1: has a girl. But I went on a date with
Speaker 1: someone who was married, um in an open relationship. They
Speaker 1: were both on the same site. I matched him. Oh
Speaker 1: remember I was telling you he was on a Netflix
Speaker 1: show and I recognized him from there and I wrote
Speaker 1: him and he was like, hey, like literally second message,
Speaker 1: just let you know I saw pictures of the girl,
Speaker 1: but I was like, maybe it's not. He was like,
Speaker 1: we're totally open. Blah blah blah blah. Did you feel
Speaker 1: the needs to A year before I went on a day,
Speaker 1: I didn't feel the need to write hurt. But also
Speaker 1: in the middle of his the date, she called twice
Speaker 1: and he's like, so sorry, Like I wouldn't have answered,
Speaker 1: but she called me twice, so he walked out. I
Speaker 1: guess she got locked out of the house or whatever.
Speaker 1: And when he talked about how much he loved her
Speaker 1: and like how much he cared about her, that let
Speaker 1: me know this isn't for me, but I want this
Speaker 1: for myself. Like I can't be on the receiving end,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I think I would
Speaker 1: get too many feelings of either jealousy or not. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe I'm even normal and polly to
Speaker 1: be jealous. You know. People say, oh, you can't be jealous.
Speaker 1: It's human behavin about communication, you know, and how you're
Speaker 1: reacting to that jealousy. And I know that because I've
Speaker 1: been on I was dude once, I was dude, and
Speaker 1: I was dude. I have video choose let me, not
Speaker 1: even front, but I never sent it, you know, but
Speaker 1: in a moment of anger and insecurity that I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I should be that bit because he's
Speaker 1: gonna feel like but also because I knew that that person,
Speaker 1: unlike in his situation make an excuse. I knew the
Speaker 1: person was lying about it. And then what you were
Speaker 1: saying about jealousy to me, I think it's important, yes,
Speaker 1: to understand, we get we feel that feeling of jealousy,
Speaker 1: but to know what would make you jealous, which is
Speaker 1: why when I talk about either an open relationship or
Speaker 1: however the case may be, I've said multiple times I
Speaker 1: don't care what you fucking someone else, that wouldn't make
Speaker 1: me jealous. But the emotion of you taking someone on
Speaker 1: a date, And we talked about this when you're dating
Speaker 1: lover boy and letting him go on dates, to me,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh girl, I could never because to me,
Speaker 1: you intimately learning somebody or spending time with them outside
Speaker 1: of sex, to me, would make me more jealous than
Speaker 1: you just sucking a bit. So it's also knowing what
Speaker 1: triggers that jealousy, like if it's kissing in a threesome
Speaker 1: like lay Lay those things out because yeah, again we
Speaker 1: can't control it or jealous of but I think we
Speaker 1: know what triggers us being jealous. So even just being
Speaker 1: open with that, communicating that with your partner, if you
Speaker 1: do decide to be Polly. So okay, I'm glad we're
Speaker 1: all on the same page with this. I wanted to
Speaker 1: before we get out of do it. You just don't
Speaker 1: do it. It's out of malice, it's out of like
Speaker 1: just you feeling use abused and you being hurt. I
Speaker 1: would never say here's your fault and never to mentioned
Speaker 1: like you went in that apartment knowing like that's kind
Speaker 1: of girls, her kids, You really dedry, you know, I
Speaker 1: do wanna before we get out of here, where can
Speaker 1: our listeners um, new listeners, old listeners, um wor hive?
Speaker 1: Where can they find you? We are going to put
Speaker 1: all of this in the description of the episode as well,
Speaker 1: but where can our listeners find you? You can find
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Speaker 1: a motherfucking story. So she writes, I get this at am,
Speaker 1: so they was up late. Argument. I didn't catch it
Speaker 1: till the next day because they was fighting visually. I
Speaker 1: will so I get a d M. It says, listen, Mandy,
Speaker 1: we never met one on one, but you need to
Speaker 1: fall back before we have problems. That is how this
Speaker 1: all that. I write it, and I just smirked hold on.
Speaker 1: I smirked hold on because I don't hold on. So
Speaker 1: let me go back. Look, I haven't in order. That's
Speaker 1: why you can't read it, because I have to go.
Speaker 1: I have three D screenshots in order. Look Zilla getting
Speaker 1: a chair. So my my initial response, my initial response
Speaker 1: to her was a screenshot of our conversation that day.
Speaker 1: He hit me up that day and said, you miss me.
Speaker 1: I responded, I don't though, scram He said, l O
Speaker 1: L you're such a bit. I said, dealing with you.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm over you. You happy with you? Woman?
Speaker 1: You got it? Leave me be. His response, Damn, we
Speaker 1: can't be friends. We ain't shipping no more. Huh. This
Speaker 1: is what your nigga is writing me. So I literally
Speaker 1: like the most perfect response. So I send her the
Speaker 1: screenshot and I said, you know the man you're with,
Speaker 1: whatever problems you have should be with him, not with me.
Speaker 1: And I sent her the screenshot of her nigga saying, damn,
Speaker 1: we can't be friends. We ain't shipping no mo. Huh Right,
Speaker 1: So this is what she gets. Her response, hold on,
Speaker 1: I had to send my insights to my polosist. Her response,
Speaker 1: boom oh, okay, okay, read read the top part so
Speaker 1: you got okay, co read it because there's parts in
Speaker 1: there that are laughable, So please read it slow and
Speaker 1: with a tone. This is the paragraph. This is her
Speaker 1: response after I send the screenshot of her man saying
Speaker 1: we ain't we can't be We ain't shouldn't no more.
Speaker 1: Here's her response. Read it Read it so her response
Speaker 1: to the screenshot of her nigga to me, Well, you
Speaker 1: know he has someone, so why keep being a home record.
Speaker 1: But it's all good though. I dealt with him and
Speaker 1: you won't be able to reach him anymore because he
Speaker 1: changed his number. He ain't the best I know, but
Speaker 1: things have gotten better. Then I see y'all's messages. Why
Speaker 1: do I care? Right, it's like, why you entertaining other people?
Speaker 1: Men that ship don't get old. Also, I have a
Speaker 1: problem with everyone in the situation, especially when you know
Speaker 1: about me and last year you bluntly disrespected me by
Speaker 1: posting him regardless of what he tells you. You know
Speaker 1: what's up? Oh no, no, because now don't pull up
Speaker 1: her page yet because you're gonna be like, oh, y'all
Speaker 1: look like cousin. She got a big gas. All my
Speaker 1: niggas have types. I look very close to all my
Speaker 1: niggas bitches. Um. I don't know what she is. She's
Speaker 1: oldest that so listen hold on, guys. So that's what
Speaker 1: she writes to me. This is my response to her.
Speaker 1: I'm not wrecking any home. He was single then at
Speaker 1: least that's what he is saying when he gets in
Speaker 1: my phone. I know of you being around the same
Speaker 1: way I've been around for the last nine years. I
Speaker 1: don't know to what capacity your relationship is with him
Speaker 1: when you're on or when you're off. If he's in
Speaker 1: my phone, I don't assume you're in the picture. So
Speaker 1: I'm entertaining a grown single man at those times, la
Speaker 1: mao at regardless of what he tells me. So this
Speaker 1: is something you need to take up with him. And
Speaker 1: I said, her name, not me. Get a ring that
Speaker 1: would be more telling of where y'all stand. Stop. This
Speaker 1: is what I wrote her was shady. I was being respectful.
Speaker 1: I said, get a ring that would be more telling
Speaker 1: of where y'all stand. Unless the next time he hits
Speaker 1: my phone telling me he's single, you would like for
Speaker 1: me to check in with you first. Her response after that,
Speaker 1: mind you, this is the funny thing. She's already told
Speaker 1: me he's changed his number. He won't be contacting you
Speaker 1: no more. Next thing, you know, hold on? Oh oh wait.
Speaker 1: So I asked her this, her response, this is before
Speaker 1: we get her response after that, she says, we've been
Speaker 1: leaving together for seven years. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I bring in her misspelling. We've been leaving together for
Speaker 1: seven years. I'm not just around. His kids live with us.
Speaker 1: He left a year and went to another state. That's
Speaker 1: the only time I wasn't around. But it's all good.
Speaker 1: He won't talk to you anymore. I guarantee that. I
Speaker 1: double tapped her message and said, I said, please guarantee it.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tell him we are done. He
Speaker 1: won't leave me alone. H sound this girl