WEBVTT - Ep154: All About Leather Feat. Liquid

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Monday, hor Hive. This is Wheezy and I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about where we're coming this week, coming

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<v Speaker 1>in going. We're gonna be in Dallas this Thursday. We've

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<v Speaker 1>just added a few more tickets because we know that

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<v Speaker 1>we have been tryling to come to Dallas and we

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<v Speaker 1>came to Houston and y'all bitches was mad that you

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<v Speaker 1>had to get on planes and drive. So listen, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to accommodate everybody. This show is definitely gonna sell out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on at Canton Hall, Okay, Houston this Sunday coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be at the Improv. Come and check us

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<v Speaker 1>out again. We're really looking forward to seeing you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Following that, we're going to be in Charlotte on March

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<v Speaker 1>four at the Comedy Zone Orlando. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there on the seventh our home. It's a Saturday, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an early show, so come funk with us and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>all hanging party that night at the Orlando Improv. Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>will be there on March at center Stage. There are

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<v Speaker 1>also a few ticket lefts for this show Toronto. March

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<v Speaker 1>will be at Trinity College. If you came to our

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto show before with the same venue. I believe there's

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty tickets left, so go hurry up and spend

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<v Speaker 1>your Canadian dollars on us San Francisco the Bay. We

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<v Speaker 1>are finally coming to see you on April five at

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<v Speaker 1>the Brava Theater in l A. We're gonna be returning

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<v Speaker 1>to the Regent Theater on April nine. We are still

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<v Speaker 1>working out the details of our New Orleans show and

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<v Speaker 1>our Vegas show, so please don't curse us out in

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<v Speaker 1>the comments. We are coming soon. Really looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you. Guys. Get your tickets at Horrible Decisions dot

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<v Speaker 1>com to enjoy this amazing fucking show that you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to every week and see us live. Yeah, what up, y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you dealing? Baby? I don't know what fucking what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing? Hi, guys, it's Horrible Decisions, God damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, now you know that it is my

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<v Speaker 1>god damn job. All right, this is your girl, Mandy

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<v Speaker 1>v a k A debt bitch, which mind you. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to say that bitch because the nigga said, I

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<v Speaker 1>know she that bitch the way she's say debt bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what if I am pet the stallion full

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<v Speaker 1>core pumps all my motherfucker a k's I'm gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>something twenty um Angela. You might have heard me on

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<v Speaker 1>nine Today fiance with my fiance Michael from Nigeria, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, God damn it, they denied his visa

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a playing citizen and if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get married in this country, ship, I want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the funds. Yeah, that's wheezy. You know here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a me mall to eight kids, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I can't understand fathom why they won't let

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<v Speaker 1>it happen. Can I ask you? That's actually what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>So we we all? You know. Even so, growing up black,

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<v Speaker 1>having black friends, none of my black friends have referred

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<v Speaker 1>to their grandma's as mom. Why do white people say that?

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<v Speaker 1>And then some girls in the comments talking about because

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy for children to say that's a white that's

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<v Speaker 1>white people ship though right, it definitely is. It definitely is.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all here a third motherfucking boy us on here and

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm gonna works on. I'm gonna work on

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<v Speaker 1>properly introducing our motherfucking guests. So check this out. We

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<v Speaker 1>got liquid in the motherfucking building. Who is a fixture

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<v Speaker 1>in the b DSM leather community for more than twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, unless you started it five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you've been doing this ship for twenty years. Things.

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<v Speaker 1>She has competed and one Miss Henrietta Hudson Fetish two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eight and two thousand nine, and she went on

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<v Speaker 1>to be the only woman of color um to compete

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<v Speaker 1>in the first Mr Slash Miss New York City Leather contest.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can't tell, we're finally going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the community of leather and literally everything leather ship

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't even know I was doing mad research,

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<v Speaker 1>no theme, which is honestly, when I looked up the

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<v Speaker 1>history which we're gonna dig into, that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can, you know, welcome yourself to horrible decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming in. And is there anything else

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<v Speaker 1>that I missed because I know you have a long

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<v Speaker 1>by You've done a lot of things. So what else

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<v Speaker 1>are you known for in the leather community. I am

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<v Speaker 1>currently the Northeast leather person the first. Um. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just won last I just one last month. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>am also on the board of Falsome Street East. I

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<v Speaker 1>am now the former vice president of the Onyx Pros

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<v Speaker 1>New York eighths U there for three years. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>a four number. Yeah. It is a leather organization for

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<v Speaker 1>women of color in kink and we are moving to

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<v Speaker 1>educate in power and help other women of color and

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<v Speaker 1>on buying every folks explore b DSM and leather. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that is on the board of it right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I need to get in the need

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<v Speaker 1>to get on some boards, need to how can we

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<v Speaker 1>get on boards? I love that thing. Maybe you'll be uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's turns with the c It's not the Congress, community,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the community council council, but it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be counseled communtee. You're just like, yeah, damn, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>follow me so much. Okay. So when there's a small

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<v Speaker 1>business and you guys join this thing together and you

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<v Speaker 1>go to meetings and like you could sell to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Born not definitely not LC shows. I'm don't think of listening, Like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna look, what is it not committee Congress. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna figure it out. I don't know listen, hunts Okay. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Hunts, I don't know. Um okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>how would one before we get into the icebreaker and

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<v Speaker 1>breaking his ice how would one get on a board

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<v Speaker 1>or part of these organizations if they are in the

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<v Speaker 1>key community. So for Onyx Pearls, whatever chapter region you

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<v Speaker 1>decide to join, so we are all over. My chapter

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<v Speaker 1>is New York Northeast. Um, there is Southeast, there is

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<v Speaker 1>deep South, there is Southwest. With the deep South, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like Alabama, Kentucky, that's down there, that's down there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not so what you do with fame of Converse?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl in there, girls, we do have we do have

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<v Speaker 1>a national council. Okay, um, but what we um. What

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do is just go onto any of

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<v Speaker 1>the websites and fill out an application. Submit it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can join as an associate member or you can join

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<v Speaker 1>as a full member. Full member is you have, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>voting privileges and things like that. The only difference is

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<v Speaker 1>besides the voting privileges is the patch. You get a

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<v Speaker 1>full backpatch for your leather vest, and if you're an

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<v Speaker 1>associate member you just get a smaller patch, but you

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<v Speaker 1>still have the same perks Minus love you guys watching

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<v Speaker 1>us on YouTube Liquid right now has a leather sash?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this from you winning? Like? What is this? The

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<v Speaker 1>leather sash from this is dope girl? You want like

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<v Speaker 1>the home Miss America where you can It's a leather

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<v Speaker 1>Miss America. Oh that's nice and I look expensive like

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<v Speaker 1>real leather. This is plus This is plus Vaught. These

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<v Speaker 1>from New York and Company on This is the Gabrielle

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<v Speaker 1>Union collection. But I know that this is not real. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but this looks really nice. The studs are are also

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<v Speaker 1>very nice on it. And so what did you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do to when this when this sash? Or when

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<v Speaker 1>miss Leather? So this one actually is not a Miss Leather.

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<v Speaker 1>There was actually four titles. This is Northeast Leather Person,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a non binary so because identify as gender fluid.

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<v Speaker 1>My pronouncer she they them and that bitch. Um. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you had this title for leather Person, you had

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Leather, Northeast Leather, your Miss Northeast Leather, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had Northeast Leather Boot Black, which I am proud to

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<v Speaker 1>say that everyone who won the titles this year, for

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<v Speaker 1>the first year, we're all black yes, we is in

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<v Speaker 1>this space already like a black no we but these

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<v Speaker 1>are different. So throughout the country at internationally you have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different leather contests, I understand. So it's mixed.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all the time. People of color are gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really fire. People of color are gonna run. This

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<v Speaker 1>is every sport there is. Whether if the leather everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Who said ice cream niggas they heat up there? Ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream be on their motherfucker too. I think it was catwoys,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a fact. Well god damn, I mean really

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. Look at all sports. Dogs don't let niggas

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<v Speaker 1>compete about nothing. Look they brogan king noir, what white

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking dog is doing this ship? No? No, Well we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know because I don't be looking for white people.

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<v Speaker 1>So they just that is what. Maybe they just don't

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<v Speaker 1>pop up on our feet. It's about to say, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna lie. I don't know what your Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>algorithm is. But all the little um financed niggas with

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos beyond my ship. I came across this nig and

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<v Speaker 1>they all be living in London. I'll be like, God damn,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm talking to this one he finds hell. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever come to the UK? I did look

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<v Speaker 1>up in London. Was in the UK, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, I've been to London in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK and then they just call it's something else, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>listen shut But then it's right there, you know, the Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I know there's another part of Europe. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not all the United like, it's just different. So I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in London. But anyway, he's Arab, bitch, he's

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<v Speaker 1>an Arab. And I was like, bitch, I will give

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<v Speaker 1>up baking for you, and that is I just would

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<v Speaker 1>a buslom right. They don't like baking you Really, the

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<v Speaker 1>UK was the country, dude, There also the EU and

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<v Speaker 1>there's other ship. Listen. It was just shut the funk

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<v Speaker 1>out anyway. Anyway, that is where that is Marcus, bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? Yes, you didn't even know the geography

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio, bitch. We have to the Cleveland Show because

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<v Speaker 1>they know the geography, and that is you got damn

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<v Speaker 1>United States of goddamn America. Anyways, this nigga, well he's

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<v Speaker 1>who ended up on my feed. That is beautiful is

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<v Speaker 1>where I got my first icebreaker question for you. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you, what is the food you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot live without? The food I cannot live without. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not really a food but ice cream. Okay, So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. My question to you is you start dating

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who is perfect until you find out that

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<v Speaker 1>he is extremely allergic to ice cream? Do you break

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<v Speaker 1>up with him? Or do you give up ice cream cream? Right? Look,

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<v Speaker 1>what is like your favorite food? It's she can't live

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<v Speaker 1>without ice cream? That is her favorite food. I can

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<v Speaker 1>train someone to be perfect, I can't train someone's allergy.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't even kiss after I eat ice cream. I can't. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I ask she is, and I'm not gonna lie. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't take nobody but tell you right now, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>stressed going out with her. If ever fos over me,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's because another bitch was making breakfast, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel like that sea because there's only so

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<v Speaker 1>much avocado toast. I could, dude, but I ain't even

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hold you. We was in Chicago and I went

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<v Speaker 1>to this place called Yoke. I love eggs. I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like you, I'm gonna go to breakfast. Sorry, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>can't eat here, mind, y'all. I shared a story when

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<v Speaker 1>we were younger. I took her to a soul food restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Forgot that cheese, mom and M's forgot big mac and

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<v Speaker 1>cheese has egg. She was like, let me try to

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<v Speaker 1>make a cheese bitch. I thought she was about to

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<v Speaker 1>die she started. I was like, oh, sh it's big

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<v Speaker 1>mac and cheese. Bitch. My bad. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I could date someone with bro I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I could. So let me ask you, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>food you cannot live without? And would you be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to give it up if you found the perfect man?

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<v Speaker 1>You're seeing the perfect man over food? Yes, the food

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<v Speaker 1>I came about cheese? You can't? Right? Is you giving

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<v Speaker 1>up cheese to be with a nigga? You said, the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect nigga, but he's not affect. If he's allergic to

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you love the most, everything else is

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<v Speaker 1>everything else is good? You would give up cheese? I

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonnadict to like sour cream or something else with that,

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<v Speaker 1>like fattiness na ice cream. You could. You could go

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<v Speaker 1>onto other sweets. But but but Dick is like not

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<v Speaker 1>a hard limit for me. I'm not gonna she's like

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect person like perfect until you find out that

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<v Speaker 1>like say that ship like, sorry, you gotta go. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying you're saying like the perfect Like so in

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<v Speaker 1>my head, I'm really like Kofe and he's got like

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<v Speaker 1>a great personality. I'm gonna give it up. You give

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<v Speaker 1>it up cheese for Kofee. Jameson just talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>nigga you run into on the subway. Calm down, you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about that perfect Okay, talking about perfection? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Deity face and said I had to go on

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<v Speaker 1>that Coachella diet or she wouldn't be my friend. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, okay, done, I'll eat there. You're annoying. So

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<v Speaker 1>the next question, Um, I actually want to ask this

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<v Speaker 1>question because I want to see how how intimate I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you are. Would you rather only be able to

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<v Speaker 1>have sex in missionary position or only have sex from

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<v Speaker 1>the back? Oh, definitely from the back, But I knew

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<v Speaker 1>you all intimate like in the kids and shape, so

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<v Speaker 1>you would never be cause you can't kiss from the

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<v Speaker 1>back like yo, like you, I don't know you would

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<v Speaker 1>do missionary over having from the back? Huh? Love missionary?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I could like, see, I know it has to

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<v Speaker 1>because I want it from the back, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it. I'm looking up at the celn. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I gotta do right, and then I'd be sweating

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<v Speaker 1>the sweat drops into my face and intimacy. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it from the back. I do come the hardest from

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Missionary, from the fastest from Doggie, but like hard

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<v Speaker 1>strong orgasmy is generally missionary. Okay, so I can see

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<v Speaker 1>you want to missionary. The last icebreaker that I have

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<v Speaker 1>is um. I guess the worst of the two evils. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>would you rather have car secks or shower sex? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>shower sucks. I don't like showers. I remember the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I fell out of the shower. No, that was dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>You fell out of the shower. It was a really

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<v Speaker 1>small ash shower slipped Yeah, no into like deaf spin

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<v Speaker 1>and like slow moons. I think it could be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss nasty be fall off a dildo on the shower.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, but she I'll say, like, the

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<v Speaker 1>shower is dangerous, but also my hair, um, And depending

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<v Speaker 1>on you know this, we've I have. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have to go sit under the dryer at the

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<v Speaker 1>Dominicans for ever the next day, because when you have

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<v Speaker 1>someone's you don't want to get it wet because then

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<v Speaker 1>it can start to stink. And I do someones or wigs,

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<v Speaker 1>which also you can't get wet. So I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>like shower sex. Also I'll be thinking on what and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's also the shower making me wet. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think car sex not as wet in the shower,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. But also sex in the car too, but

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<v Speaker 1>my niggas be big, so it just don't be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well see not see, I am one of those that

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<v Speaker 1>are not in the car. I've had some of my

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<v Speaker 1>sex the car. Okay, I call that road side assistance.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never had sex on a car. Really, ill

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<v Speaker 1>have term like in the rain and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in jail to this version. Else did we

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<v Speaker 1>have on here boy because he said he was giving

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<v Speaker 1>head in the car. No, it was on the hood

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<v Speaker 1>of the car on the Jersey term pipe, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was the car, not hot. It was in the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>was on top of the car, pulled over on the shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>Road Side assistance coming from Atlantic City. Shower sex if

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<v Speaker 1>it's a woman so shower sex if it's a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Car sex was what a woman really strapped and damn

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<v Speaker 1>you have sex I ever had with scissors was in

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<v Speaker 1>a bathtub, like but it was empty. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you because you're gonna judge me. You judged

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. So I was on my pod. She

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<v Speaker 1>was on her period. Okay, why you're disgusting, bro, just

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<v Speaker 1>going in the shower does not make your period. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to because thank you, go ahead, I'm judging,

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<v Speaker 1>but go ahead. She didn't want to have sex because

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<v Speaker 1>she was on a period. I was like, y'all, like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, like what are we going to the bathtup?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like fine, So we go on the bathtub and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we loved a scissor, so we basically like let

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<v Speaker 1>the shower around when we were on the bat in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathtub, but that she was started turning pink around, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know, really grows just like the color of feminism.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't see the blood, but you convintion what did she

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<v Speaker 1>the bloo? Because you were probably looking at her face.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't look down to see if y'all were scissor,

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna pull the blood. This this is really disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually believe us when you have it. That's heard that

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<v Speaker 1>contractions just not with dicks going and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>dick's going in the out's gonna make you bleed hotly

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<v Speaker 1>bled on my nigga's comforter, who I've already expressed to

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<v Speaker 1>y'all was O C. D. Let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>It was already over. But he sucked the ship out

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<v Speaker 1>of me. And it was a day later and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like smooth sailing, like clean, like you could eat it. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up. I'm in the shower and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you in your period? Were like, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm not. He's like, okay, because uh I

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<v Speaker 1>just got the I got on the comforter. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh well it must have been another bitch like I

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<v Speaker 1>just put it on his brain new the last night

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<v Speaker 1>he did and I saw it and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>was it a lot? No? But like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he got the last ship out from the period. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what it wasn't. That was so fucking embarrassing. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like he didn't even want to tell me because

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<v Speaker 1>he was like already wrapping it up and putting in

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<v Speaker 1>the washing machine because he knew I was gonna free

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<v Speaker 1>because he's already so O c D. But like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just easy. How niggas could really get that ship back

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<v Speaker 1>out of you, That's what I'm saying, Like I won't

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<v Speaker 1>even like if I'm on my last day, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>was a niggas who was in town recently and I

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<v Speaker 1>was on my last day, so we could have like

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was gone, Like I wasn't wiping it

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<v Speaker 1>no more. But I knew if he put his dick

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<v Speaker 1>in me, he would either pull more out or he

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<v Speaker 1>would knock get back on. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know, this ship, my peerent is only three days long,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I fucked at the end, you're gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>my peerd go another to three days. It just happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried it before and I was over my peerent

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<v Speaker 1>on three days thinking the ship went to five after

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, never aget, Like like the blood

0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.399
<v Speaker 1>that's there, it's already like it's old blood, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>like this just can't well, he popped the bubble and

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<v Speaker 1>more came out. I was just the ship was nasty. Walnut. No,

0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.679
<v Speaker 1>the walnut is when I squirt, bitch, that's different. Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's the bubble of the blood came out. Shut up. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get it to our vanilla ship. For those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who UM, this is your first time listening

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<v Speaker 1>to us, maybe you found us through liquid Um. We

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<v Speaker 1>do a segment where we talk about X in the

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<v Speaker 1>news and this one was actually shipped by liquid Um.

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<v Speaker 1>This one comes from NBC news dot Com. A Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>man has been charged in Grinder slaying. So Grinder, for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who may not know, is a dating

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<v Speaker 1>app for gay men. I don't want to say the

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<v Speaker 1>name just because I don't want to put these people

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<v Speaker 1>out there because they have family and loved ones. But

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<v Speaker 1>a man by the name Mark, which most white people

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<v Speaker 1>are named Mark Um was charged in the killing of

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<v Speaker 1>a gay hairstylist, Kevin Um, who was last seeing Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Eve before going to meet a man he met on

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<v Speaker 1>the app. Um it says, Mark, who is fifty, was

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<v Speaker 1>arraigned on charges of murder and mutilation. Michigan State Police

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<v Speaker 1>officer Dave Kaiser declined to release any additional information UM,

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<v Speaker 1>but basically, Kevin, who was a student, told his roommate

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<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Eve that he was leaving to meet a

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<v Speaker 1>man he found on Grinder, which is a popular gay

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<v Speaker 1>dating app. Later the night, the roommates said that he

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<v Speaker 1>received a text from Kevin saying he was having fun

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<v Speaker 1>it might not make it home that night. When Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>did not appear at his parents house on Christmas Day,

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<v Speaker 1>he was reported missing. Um It says that Kevin's car

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<v Speaker 1>was found his belongings in a parking lot in Clayton Township,

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<v Speaker 1>close to where he lived, and his mutilated body was

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<v Speaker 1>found later December UM in a city four miles away. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you said you heard that the guy was eating him

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<v Speaker 1>in the In another article, Uh huh. It described that

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<v Speaker 1>he had him hanging off the ceiling fan and ate

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<v Speaker 1>some of him, so they called him the Hannibal. We

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<v Speaker 1>did the craziest sex crimes. So is that a regular Patreon?

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<v Speaker 1>It might have been a patreon. UM. I really loved

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<v Speaker 1>that one. So we talked about like sex crimes, the

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<v Speaker 1>weirdest ones around the world, and one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>a dude that like cooked the woman that he killed.

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<v Speaker 1>It should yeah, like um and it's crazy because um

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<v Speaker 1>and Hannibal, is I like her beauty inside of Harrison.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, Hannibal was a serial killer who did actually

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<v Speaker 1>keep certain parts of the audi and cooked it and

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<v Speaker 1>ate it. Um. It's fucking nasty as fuck. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's something else recently did the I don't know. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be watching Matt Serial Killers ship, but I did think

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<v Speaker 1>with cats because he mutilated the body he ain't eat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but there's something I just saw recently where

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<v Speaker 1>they was eating. Ship. Anyways, I'll be watching Matt serial

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<v Speaker 1>Killer ship. That's like my thing, which isn't good. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a serial but I'd really be liking that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>And Netflix really makes me. It's I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>training me to kill because so my name on Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>is Wheezy, and the ship will email me and be

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<v Speaker 1>like top fix picks for Wheezy. Don't funk with cats,

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<v Speaker 1>Moms who murder wives with knives like abducted in plain sight,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yo, this is audition. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it all. My WiFi is how to get away with

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<v Speaker 1>murder and I almost got away with it. Also, there's

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<v Speaker 1>more well there and there's another one um, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of goes into what is it criminal? My

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<v Speaker 1>hunner good as it goes into like the psychology of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI unit that searches like the criminal mind ship,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we love this? And like what era are

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<v Speaker 1>we in? My mom could stay up for hours watching

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<v Speaker 1>I D and then we'll call me at seven in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and be like, did you lock your door

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<v Speaker 1>last night? I mean, that's how it gets. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to drop my big old box because I

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<v Speaker 1>just bought a box spring. So I want to drop

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<v Speaker 1>my boxes because I have to take him to another building.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a nice man, um one of the

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<v Speaker 1>maintenance men who worked in my complex, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>so nice that I was scared that evening because he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, what building do you live in? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, that one? And then why did I

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<v Speaker 1>tell him that I did? I thought he took the

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<v Speaker 1>box he can see even the apartment number. I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing about a nice maintenance man. And in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I just gave a serial killer my address and we

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:48.440
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't think that's like, you know, Uber drivers be thinking

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 1>they gotta talk for tip, not killing me tips. We

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<v Speaker 1>are coming back to you this week with the Horrid

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<v Speaker 1>Derv's segment, where we serve up a new sex tip

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<v Speaker 1>every week. This one comes from one of our top

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<v Speaker 1>tier patrons. Shout out to Tay Richie actually is helping

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<v Speaker 1>me manage the group chat um for our patrons, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, use the tip of your fingers slash nails

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<v Speaker 1>to tickle the balls and gooch. It provides a nice

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<v Speaker 1>sensation while we're getting hit and when the spot starts

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<v Speaker 1>dropping down and mixes with the tickle nigga all caps.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, However, if you are dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>man who does not want you down by the gooch,

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<v Speaker 1>this is still something I think that needs to be compassion.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that sounds like that he said, nail,

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<v Speaker 1>it don't matter, you'll get down there. He could, he

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<v Speaker 1>could kick you so you could get your asshole. Gooch

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<v Speaker 1>is the space between your testicles and your asshole right

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<v Speaker 1>whe But if you're holding balls, you're technically touching the

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<v Speaker 1>gooch because your nails are right there. I would still say,

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>y'all know the type of niggas you fucking? I would

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 1>still ask before because yeah, no, no, I was still asked.

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been really wanting to like finger my dudes ass

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>whole and every time see like I played the podcast

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>ones to find a minute mark for something. I think

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it was the holiday episode, and he heard peg this

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>time and he goes, who is that is that? You

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.199
<v Speaker 1>was that many? I was like, that's Mandy and he

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, so you'll be paying because this is

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, God damn. And then literally that episode we

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>started talking about how you got to get a nigga

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 1>wide open, just the clip he had to hear. He

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't want to be surprised. I don't

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>want you to just let me like it's gonna ruin

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the time. It's funny because most most people think that,

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like I won't deal with a guy who doesn't let

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>me peg him, which isn't the case. Like, there are

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a ton of guys where I share the craziest, wildest

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>things I've done. Of course, pegging is the most wild

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and crazy to most people, so I share that and

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>thing pegging and like the sex club ship, like niggas

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 1>also think like a sex club like them should think this.

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>So they're really into me doing like being at the

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>sex club, but pegging is still and then it gets

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>into the whole thing and they're like, So there are

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>men that I've talked to that aren't okay with them,

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, it's okay. You cannot be okay. And

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:16.719
<v Speaker 1>as I used to think pegging was the craziest thing

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I've ever done, but then I ate that cream pie.

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>So then you had periods sense which which one's worse?

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 1>What hold on you is worse than pegging? Yes, what's

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the problem this? It's blood? You have it every month.

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>It's literally your body. Do you know I cringe every

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>time I wipe. I don't like blood, bro, you don't

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>need to get one of them, Like, God, damn it.

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Why do I have to be a woman. That's probably

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>why I act like a nigger club. It's gotta be believed. Literally,

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it's only three days. Um, we are Um. Although we

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>are moving away from this segment, I thought that we

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>could still keep this segment in because why liquid is here.

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So the kink of the week and what we're gonna

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>dive into for the horrible decision is none other than

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>leather subculture. Um. And so the leather subculture, which I

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>want you to um hop in here any point. Actually,

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get through this and then we're gonna talk

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.479
<v Speaker 1>into what leather subculture is and dive into this. So

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the leather subculture, which is the kink guys. Dnotes practices

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>and styles of dress organized around sexual activities that involve

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>leather garments, such as leather jackets, vests, boots, chaps, harnesses,

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>or other items. Wearing leather garments is one way that

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>participants in this culture self consciously distinguish themselves from mainstream

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and sexual cultures. Many participants associate leather culture with b

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>D s M, and it's many subcultures. First, some black

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>leather clothing is an erotic fashion that expresses heightened masculinity

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>or the appropriation of sexual power. So the love of motorcycles,

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>motorcycle clubs and independence and or engagement and sexual kink

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 1>or leather fetishism. That was That was good right that

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I literally was was texting Liquid this morning, like girl,

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I found this. You know about this, We're gonna talk

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>about this. So this is something although we we've I've

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>worn leather um at the live show last year in

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>d c UM and when I think of Dominatrix, of

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>course I think of of leather. But we've never really

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>talked about leather subculture. You talk about wearing chokers and

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>even your ball gag was leather, right, Yeah, I mean

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I like the what was I gonna say, like the

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>chokers with the long not like a leash, but the

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>thing the fringe. And I wear harnesses with a lot

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>of my clothes to leather harnesses. But I didn't know

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like turning on. Yeah, so I wanted to

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you in terms of leather, where

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>does arousal come out of wearing it? Does it come

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>more out of seeing someone in it? What? Where does

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the sexual aspect of leather? It depends and it varies

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>from person to person, like for me personally leather having

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a leather heart and a leather lifestyle. You don't have

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 1>to own leather to be leather. Okay you said a

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>leather heart. Yeah, I have a leather heart. I like that. Um,

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to own leather to be leather. You know,

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>prior to leather lifestyle being a big thing, there was

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>always leather LEVI people who wore jeans with their leather

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>chaps and things. So you know, I know many people

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>shore leather lifestyle that you know, they wear their pins

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and everything else on their geane jackets and leather. It's expensive.

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Not now it is can't afford leather, but um, pleather,

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it's also another option guy. You know, for me it

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>encompasses you know, the dom and me the strength the top.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, it is sexy to look at. Um. It

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel good and powerful when I'm out. But um,

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>some people it for men, mostly that strong masculinity, so

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know when you see them in full on formal uniform,

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>formal gear. You know, some people like yourself, were harnesses.

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I love wearing harness. I love harnesses too. And we

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about this. Is there a difference between leather and latex?

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>There isn't a For me, there isn't a difference. I

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>love yeah both. Yeah. I thought maybe they would be like,

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but you have late liquids. Leather it okay for me,

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I wear both. Okay, I don't wear both at the

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>same time. That's that's just I was about to say

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that could be hot burn. Um. Something that I found,

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>um and that I wanted to bring into just the

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>kink of the week before we dive into leather and

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>kink is something that I found called a leather bar.

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure if you know of any in

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>New York or anywhere that you've been really, so we'll

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about that. So a leather bar in America is

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a bar frequented by gays, often sayto Massacus, dressed typically

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>in leather garments. Um. And this is of course where

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the word origin of leather bar comes from. Um. Do

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to wear leather to get into these bars?

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>And in what area are leather bars in New York

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>or anywhere else? You been everywhere? Um? Most of them

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>are down in Chelsea and in the village around that area. Um.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>One of the ones that I frequent is Eagle, NYC.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Its male. But so and there's typical rules for leather bars,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>especially that are frequented by men. Do you know some

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>some of those rules? Yes? Okay, what's the rules for bar?

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>If you're going in as a woman. You cannot wear

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>any perfume, right because they like their natural smells and

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that is very interesting and fucking an ass and gets

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that smell. They don't want to smell perfume and high

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>fem things like that. It takes away Oh wow, did

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you did you notice that at the leather bar that

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you went to there? No, I don't know if it

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>was like a serious fucking leather so like the Eagle

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I went to and had a leather night and I

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>know it's a leather bar, so the leather so okay,

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>So there's a leather but they weren't requiring it, so

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not. Man, it's not mandatory. It is a leather bar,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's not mandatory. There is a close check when

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you walk in, so most people check their clothes at

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the close check. In the country, it's always like the skanky, dirty,

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>grimy gay bar. I don't know why, right Austin when

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>we were reading, I'm like, EGO, don't think he was

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and that one's gross, but we love it,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>like every fucking eagle. Is it interest at a franchise

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>because you have DC ego, you have a franchise. Yeah,

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually I'll be there on the seventeenth um for

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>mid Atlantic Leather. But you also have San Francisco Ego.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. So guys, if you're interested in going to

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a leather bar, um, you can look up the eagle

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>in your city and see if one is there. What

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>are other rules if one of our listeners wants to

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>go to an other bar, So, ladies, if you want

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to go, don't wear perfumes, perving, perving, perving. Perferving is staring,

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>but in a way that it's more than that. It's

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.479
<v Speaker 1>just like if someone is in a scene and they're playing,

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>give them their space. You don't stand up and hover

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>over someone. It throws them. Well, Um, if you guys

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>are interested in going to sex clubs, um a lot

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of times like you do. Like people will let you

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>know if they want to be washed or if they

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be washed, or you can make people

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable even though you're you're you want to be a

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>voyor there's a way to voider without making someone uncomfortable.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>So you want to watch people engaging in sex from

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a distance, you definitely don't want to hover over them.

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>So I like that. So no perving. I didn't know

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a name for that. Uh. Consent, consent, consent,

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't just assume because you're in another gay

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>bar that you know you can touch jointing someone seen anything,

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>even from you know, I've gotten to women are the

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>worst in gay bars for the consent by the way,

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes they are and they're touching. Yeah, and it's not fair.

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not fair even even for us as women, like

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I think gay men approached it the same way too,

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>because they figure, you know, well they know they don't

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>want the gay men are touchy and women to gay

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>men are touchy. So I think that that's something with

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>consent that we haven't really touched on. Actually yeah, and

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that we should do that in spaces you have. Is

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>it okay to hug you? Are you a handshaker? You know,

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>things like that, because some people aren't into that. You know,

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>some people don't like to be hugged. Um, I'm okay

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>with being hugged if I have. I have my own rules.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you don't like my perfume, I don't like

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the smell of pits, So I'll shake your hand. I

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>just did something a Google with shout out to Layla

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and her co host where the girl. She was so funny.

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>She was like kind of tense. I remember when I

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>hugged her for a second and then we all had

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>drinks after, and she was like, I really don't like that.

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I just don't find it necessary. I don't need it,

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't want it. Like it's fine. So when I

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>was leaving, like I patted her on the bag. I

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, I know, how comfortable, And she was like

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>she looked at me like she was relieved. It's crazy

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>because I always hug people and I always ask for consent,

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and never I was gonna say, yeah, I don't think

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I asked for consent problems either, And I kiss on

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the cheek like I'm a lot and I forget that

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>fucking people don't like this ship bro In a world

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>where everything seems to be heightened, you know, I'm always weary,

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>especially in places where B D S, M. Kink you know,

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>is involved, because consent violation is a huge issue, you know,

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's something that is talked about, but not in

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a way that it should. Everything always escalates to social

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>media when it tried it, you know, it's like, oh,

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>three years later, you violated my consent and instead of

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>bringing it to you that day, three years later on

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>bringing up now on social So that's what else I

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you in these spaces again because of

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>social media. So in sex clubs literally or in the

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Nude Beach, even at Hedonism when we went in Jamaica,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 1>they literally like there's like an unspoken almost no phone policy.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So in leather bars because people are in chaps or

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe dressed a certain way that maybe they don't dress

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in a corporate setting. Is there a phone policy that

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>they require at all? Do you know so in in

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>leather bars the same as in like rope spaces, because

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I do a lot of rope. You do do a

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of rope. Yes. We have a thing where we say,

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to take pictures, ask the person first.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't be like, oh, let me take a picture and

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>then take the picture and the persons like I didn't

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>allow you to do that, But you asked the person beforehand.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Is it okay to take a picture. You make sure

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>there is no one else and take a picture of

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>that person, because again you don't know, you know, who

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>knows what or what people are doing for me. I'm

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>open about my ship. I'm never running for president. I

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>have so much out on the internet it doesn't make

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>a difference to me. But but party, it's see, it's

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>crazy how all the world thinks I know the same

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>things I know. I've read the sex pod. I wouldn't

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>want that. Also went to a sex party and a

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>girl was like, yo, like let's take a picture and

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like absolutely not, Like oh wow, no, we

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>were totally close, we were outside of it, and I

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, nah, I don't know what it is. So

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>even we talked about it, even you at Hedonism, you

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>were like, damn, I know people were having sex publicly,

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>but you did say you're scared what if someone records

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you and scissors or you and a man doing anything.

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>You still don't want that intimate level out. So you're like,

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would do anything because in the

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>front Hedonism was not a place where I found out

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that people would do that. But like it hit me

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>when you were in the pool dancing that there's always

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 1>one yeah, and even though you didn't care, he didn't

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 1>know if you cared, it wasn't a big deal. Like

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>she was in the pool right and it was daytime,

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>fully closed. But I was like, I just saw this

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>guy with with this go pro and I noticed it,

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't like, like I said, like many cared,

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>but like I know she didn't see it initially, and

0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, well, what if you didn't want it?

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing though, too, I will say most people

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in this space do respect that. So I actually was

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>able to attend a few days of Moka Fest when

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I was in um did I go to Cancoon part

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of Mexico was on yeah, little bit like what part

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of Mexico was? I did to lose the first listen

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>geography geography, so I wasn't. I was a Kidcoon and

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Moca Fest and I remember, um, we were in the pool.

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>There was a pool party day and they had girls

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>go up on stage and twerk and it was a

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>turk contest and then they pulled out the bananas. And

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>at that moment, like literally, the DJ was like, yo,

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>everybody take their fucking phones away. He paused the whole

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>thing because he was like, Nick, you did you not

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>listen to me? Embarrass him was like, oh, you must

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>not get pussy like literally, because you want to allow

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>people to have a very good time. But also a

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of people in this space do have corporate jobs.

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>You and I, you know, came from corporate America where

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>we didn't want people to necessarily know we were going

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to sex clubs, or we feared our coworkers seeing that,

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>or that so much association with like that anything next

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to you. My agent literally said to me, like, I

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>get that, your sex pot is why Wheezy is a

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>person and is a thing where she's branching out. She

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>told me that, Like, there was this vibrating company that

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do something with me. She was like, you

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>cannot take pictures with a vibrator. And I was like,

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>what the fund is the big deal? I fucking put

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>on a diaper on my show. And she's like, the

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>things that I am pitching you for, you can't do that.

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>She's like, sex pot is cool, don't put a vibrator

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>in your hand. She's like, literally talk about the vibrator.

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. That's where I'm like, even even

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>with our past, which is why I'm trying to like

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the things that I'm doing solo won't be sex associated.

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Because like I had the opportunity to do a brand

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>deal with I won't say their name because them they

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't give me check, but we were talking with them. Um,

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I had my girl who pitches me to too brands,

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and so it was a company that fixes to teeth

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and clearly I'm getting you know, I want Visilne or

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever the is maybe to fix my teeth without going

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the bracest route. And so we're having this back and

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>forth with them, and literally this company was like I

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>love her engagement, I love her you know, everything that

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>we but our youngest consumer it's twelve, and so because

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>our youngest consumer is twelve, she doesn't align with what

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>she and Booty actually told me the thing about how

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>she won't take a picture with a vibrator either either,

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>which is crazy because she is PAP and is fuck

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.720
<v Speaker 1>known as a sex educator, but won't take a picture

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 1>with a vibrator. And it's to me that shows you

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the correlation between like you could talk it, but like

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>once we see it, like it's just something about that image.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is about photos and what's

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>those things. Our very first photos shoot for Horrible Decisions,

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 1>we had a dial dough that ship got removed star right, yes,

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>so we don't even do deals womanizer that I've done

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 1>with the duel. It's not really the shape of a penis,

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So I like, I was, okay, look like a guy,

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>damn vulval like, but anything with the dick shaped, like

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember, even our very first live show, we tried

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to put our Horrible Decisions logo um on Snapchat and

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>because the fucking bananas insinuated a dick, we Snapchat won't

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>allow our filter and every way, but I wrote a

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>sketch that got accepted by a show network thing. Literally,

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>they had so many questions about horrible decisions that I

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't even want to give it to them anymore. I

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, this isn't even about sex. Do you guys

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>think it's funny? It was a scene I set up

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>in a restaurant. You want it, and now you're so

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking worried about everybody stockstick. Let's be very everybody. Every

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody guys for y'all, not everybody, but most people, mostly,

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 1>most people. Most people do. She said, sutic, I know, suctic.

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, mom, this tectic grandma grandma sucking this year

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine. He and I went from now you know

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>she was a grandma. She could have just been Oh

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>with no kids, don't call her grandma. Not everybody having kids. Okay,

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>i'm ama, you are not a mema. I have adult children.

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So um, you are watching this YouTube. I can't believe

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>it either? Can we can? We are? We are we

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>allowed to ask what? No? You don't ask her age.

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You can't ever ask a woman her age? And women

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I come my youngest is fifteen, son, okay, okay, can

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you believe it? I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm like, when I asked the thirty, okay,

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that. Yeah, that's crazy, Okay, so you saw.

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 1>So I went to Beach Pine, which is like this

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>amazing rope event that is held at het and it's

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:53.359
<v Speaker 1>a two week event of rope and kink and debauchery

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and all this fun stuff. And it's like six am

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and should I could barely get up on a regular

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.439
<v Speaker 1>day when I have to go to work, but while

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm on vacation, I seen to wake up early every time.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, all right, let me go make a

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>tate by the beach. I saw a shell boy he's

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>selling some ship and I'm like, yeah, hey Tanning, and

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing this noise in my left there you go,

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and I go to turn my head over and this

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>woman had to be in her seventies and she's blowing

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>out her man. So I turned to the right and

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>here's do going down on his girl, and I'm like,

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 1>funk man. So I'm like looking straight now. And then

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a woman who's tied to a tree and

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.319
<v Speaker 1>she's blowing her man, and I'm like, am I the

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>fucking only one? Am? I the only one. Now do

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what it was? It's because like I meditated

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>for a day and then like chicot weird. Then I

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 1>went to the gym and then got speakers to heat.

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>She's like going to the gym this morning. Were so

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>we're so on over? I said, why is there a

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 1>anyone in the gym on them? What is so like?

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Un the funk up being up since five am? This

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>bitch is in the gym while we're coming out to

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>get breakfast. Most things I enjoy. We are interrupting this

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:11.600
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0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.120
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0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.000
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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the show. Anyways, I want to

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>get into the horrible decision. Of course, it is leather

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and kink Um Liquid has participated in the We Are

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Leather Women project, which brings awareness to the contributions of

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>women in the leather community. I wanted to talk about

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>that and kind of the history of women joining the

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>leather community because for when I was looking into it.

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Most of the history did start more with gay mails.

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>So can you talk about women now being a part

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of the leather community women. I've actually been a part

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>of the love of crenew for years. Like I said,

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I came up with a little twenty years ago, and

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I came up um in the scene with gay men,

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>So I was like the token fem and UM. I

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>used to go to parties and events in the city

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and the first place that I went to back then

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>was the Vault. The Vault was this underground sex club

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that became a huge thing amongst celebrities, and you had

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>different floors and this is in New York. Yeah, fourteen, Um,

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not there anymore. It ended up getting shut down,

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't we get a trapeze shut down to down too? Yeah.

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 1>So you would go through these floors and you would

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>see everything from sex, spanking, wax play, all of those things.

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>And from my first month or so of attending, I

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>was like knee deep into it, literally, And I met

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>so many women through going to these events because you

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>had to know someone to get into these places, and

0:45:55.960 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 1>there weren't but a few women of color. Oh that

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 1>we're openly out there because kink was still taboo, you know,

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and then being it still is. I mean, we still

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>get quite the reactions from some of the conversations we

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>have on end, which is why we're we're trying to

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>normalize just a little bit. But like, yeah, like so

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you've been in it for twenty years,

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing more women of color now into it. What

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>else did this space bring and and you know, what

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 1>did you bring to it? My my dominant perspective of

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>being a strong black because we're as black women and

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>just as a black culture in general. When in kink

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>we're fetishized. We talked about that, Yes, we are fetishized

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>from like the moment we walk in. Our narrative is

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>written by the people that are in that room. So

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you have um women who they automatically expect to be submissive,

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, in some spaces, and that's that's far far

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>from it. I thought it was the opposite. And I

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>thought that, like, if you're fetishizing a black girl and

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 1>like the king space because you want them to dumb you,

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I always thought not in every instance, No, you have

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>white men that want to own black women. You have

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>because you have white men who want to own black

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 1>men as slaves because we're always talking female. So it's

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like I was about, Yeah, a lot of the domes.

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we we interview um black women in the space,

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>and so you have the doms. But most of the

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.919
<v Speaker 1>time they want the men want to be sub to them. Yeah,

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.760
<v Speaker 1>my people that I come across, and they know because

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I demand a presence when I walk in a room,

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, a lot of the people I interact with,

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>even my clients, are all submissive, you know, and that's

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>what I bring to the table. But I do get

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of young women in kink that don't necessarily know,

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 1>so they're easily preyed upon as predators come in and oh,

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll help you and I'll mentor you and

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>help you navigate, and then they end up screwed in

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>some situation. But if you look on places like fat Life,

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:54.320
<v Speaker 1>fat Life has a white men for niggers or and

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>e er niggers, no niggers, only have you met women

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that are okay with playing that role? Like do you

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:04.280
<v Speaker 1>know many women of color that play that role? Every little?

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.360
<v Speaker 1>But I went into the group just to be nosy,

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like I was cringing at the

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>who the fucking their right mind there? We both said,

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're like, BBC. All we're not gonna talk

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:20.399
<v Speaker 1>about BBC. You know, I'm curious you who only likes

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 1>black cock. I can't help it. I like it. Ton't

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>even call it. Okay, I don't even call it, but

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I do like that point. You know, white people made it.

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>We call the bb D. I wouldn't say nothing, but well,

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what we're gonna change. They don't even say

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 1>it like that. If you go on to fat life

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 1>and you look at those if you just in the

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>search engine of fat Life, they're not they just like,

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:47.839
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. Like, but I'm like, really, it's

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>just like, so there's women that are seeking this from men,

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of a lot of the white men

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 1>are wanting to actually only with a black man because

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 1>of Yah. Yeah, she's probably find it on barn hup

0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to rep Tube everywhere. A wow. And so how do you,

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.399
<v Speaker 1>as a black woman come into this space and make

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>sure you're not being taken advantage of because of your

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>color or because of you being a black woman. You

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Everyone, I'm so sorry. The first

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>thing that came up is white girls say the N word.

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Ultimate compilation. There's a compilation of white women saying the

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.919
<v Speaker 1>N word. Oh my, don't play it. No, no, because

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I know you'd be liking to ship. We don't need

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what we're about to do right now. That

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is face right. No, that is that is crazy that

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a compilation. But I wouldn't have thought that even

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 1>with the men that I deal with, as far as

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 1>in terms of my community and my Black brothers and

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 1>my Spanish brothers who are in King. They post the

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.919
<v Speaker 1>conversations that they get on Grinder and other places where

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like let me suck your nigger dick and this

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that like people send them ship and I'm like, where

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>in your mind is this okay? And they're thinking that

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 1>this is a turn off, so that a black man

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:57.879
<v Speaker 1>or a Spanish man is supposed to be like, here,

0:49:57.880 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you can suck my dick now because you called me

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a nigger. Yeah that's bullshit. So so okay. So moving

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>back into just being a a strong black woman in

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>the space, where how do you move about not being

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 1>preyed on? And for women who are looking to get

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>into the space, what advice would you give to them

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that they're not being preyed upon on?

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>So prey upon on all motherfucker's so scientists too. It's

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>funny because I posted the other day someone had asked

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>my question about I always joke about being solo Polly

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>or single Polly, and um, someone asked, can you tell

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>us what single poll is? So I am single, but

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I live a Polly life style. So I'm just right

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>now I'm not seeing anyone because people are looking crazy.

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>They are not only that, it's I seem to attract

0:50:56.080 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 1>crazy vanilla folk and the kinky folk I timidate, which

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:03.720
<v Speaker 1>is odd. So wow, my resting bitch face scares people.

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you think, like, do you look for single people?

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you like taking couples? Do you I am mixed,

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>so it depends on the interaction. I don't date sneaky people.

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is if you are

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>in a Polly relationship and your partner doesn't know that

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 1>you're talking with me or engaging with me at all,

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I will gladly go into your d ms and into

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 1>their d m s. And my, hey, that's so funny

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 1>he said that, because that's our homes for I wanted

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:34.879
<v Speaker 1>big for transparencies like talk communication. Let's sidebar this really quick.

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Manby and I have said on this podcast, which we

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 1>very very rarely agree. We don't agree on it, but

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 1>we have both said we thought it wasn't right when

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 1>women will go and tell another woman's no, don't say that.

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.080
<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into that. For the home it's

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:52.279
<v Speaker 1>actually want to know do you? What makes you do it?

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>It's in our home mail. Don't ask you? God damn anyway,

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>because before we get to that conversation question no, no, no,

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>because you'll get the answer, because we're gonna get into

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that conversation at the end, but before we do. If

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys are watching on YouTube, you guys see colors

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 1>sitting here and again, which I did my research. You're

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna let me teach the folks. God damn. I like

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the educational moments. So I found out something this is

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>what bitch whoa. I'm going to get you a T

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.359
<v Speaker 1>shirt that's controlled freak. I literally like to make sure

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking about someone in a space like that.

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know much about, so I was able to

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>do a lot of research on this, and there's actually

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 1>colors of leather and fetish. It's called the hanky code.

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 1>The hanky code is a color coded system employed in

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the gay leather ad fetish community to indicate preferred sexual

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.360
<v Speaker 1>fetishes and rolls. And I thought this was very interesting,

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>especially if you do decide to maybe go into a

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.479
<v Speaker 1>gay leather bar or just a leather bar as a woman,

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>um to know kind of what these um colors mean.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>The history of the hanky code is that the wearing

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>of various colored bandanas around the neck was common in

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the mid and late night teenth century among cowboys, team

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>railroad engineers, and miners. Is thought that wearing the bandannas

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>by gay men originated in San Francisco after the Gold Rush, when,

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>because of a shortage of women, men dancing with each

0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>other and square dances developed a code. We're in the

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 1>man wearing the blue bandana took the male part in

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the square dance, and the man wearing the red bandanna

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a female part um. So there's also, of course

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:23.800
<v Speaker 1>we know if you wear it out the left side,

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the crypt side. I know that from from Snoop Dog.

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:31.360
<v Speaker 1>But the top side okay, So let's all right in

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>this community, A relevant a relevant element of the Hankey

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>code is the location of where you put this. So

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 1>wearing a color on the right side indicates that you

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>are a bottom, while wearing the color on the left

0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>side indicates god damn hell up. So there's also it's

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot. It's a lot, so so left means top,

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>right means bottom. But if you wear the hanky around

0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>your neck like it, I mean there was only one

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 1>of the So we're gonna get into the colors, guys,

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm actually I want weezy to guess some of these.

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 1>The first one is really easy and you don't have

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the colors, so we're we're gonna say the first one

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and guess what it means. What do you think a

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>yellow bandana means bottom? No, bitch, God damn it, that's

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the blot side of right side. What it's what sexual kink?

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you think yellow? And guess bitch? Okay, So if

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you wear a yellow bandanna means you like piss play? Um,

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you have what color here? And what does that stand for?

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Black means heavy M Yes, so you're says b D

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>S M and I flag left you flag left on

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:45.759
<v Speaker 1>b DSM, which means you flag top. You flag top Um,

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:47.879
<v Speaker 1>the next color you have is red. Can you guess

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>what red means? No, bit, it doesn't mean. It doesn't

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 1>mean what you think it means. Bit, No, bitch, it

0:54:54.760 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean blood, but close close because it can like

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>love it, man, it could cause blood. Bitch should get

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 1>taken too much, you know. Okay? Anyways, so the red

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>means that you are into fisting. You fisted, Oh my god,

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it was oh fingers damn, that's Kristen fist fisted a bit.

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>So the next color, oh, okay, so that's left for

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 1>me as well. So we have light blue and your

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>fist blue. You fist, I got a little baby hands.

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Look at she fisting. But look, bitch, she got nails.

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 1>You're fissing with nails. See I like it assisted both

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 1>anal and vaginal with nails. Queen, bitch, let me see

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>something true? Are you telling me right now? Yeah? We

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>fingering budda holes and fist. But John, see your fist.

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she has small hands that you do. So

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:04.399
<v Speaker 1>the next um. Colors in the hanky code are light

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>blue and dark blue, which means two different things. So

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:11.839
<v Speaker 1>light blue means so actually these are similar variations. But

0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:16.439
<v Speaker 1>if you are going by male um gay mail. One

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 1>is um anal and one is fucker fucking Yes, there's fun.

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.479
<v Speaker 1>There's also jobs, they say for light. So light blue

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:26.880
<v Speaker 1>is like the baby light, Oh like a baby like okay,

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>so these means fuck fucking fucker is that? Yeah? So

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 1>both and then we got two more colors. So we

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 1>got pink. I'm ready to see what you go to

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the right arm. Oh wait, you have two colors of pink. Okay,

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:40.360
<v Speaker 1>so what do the two colors ill? Girls? Rich cream pies,

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>no proceed eating, no lesbians. So light pink means you all.

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 1>You were got damn all. So she was a it's rush.

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:58.839
<v Speaker 1>She was just she was just throwing at every she thought.

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>She's a little poor categories. So this I am actually switched. Okay,

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 1>So your switch when it comes to dildo. So that

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 1>means you'll wear the strap or take the strap, yes, okay?

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 1>And then what is this color nipple torture? Is that

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>what Joe um nipple sick fuck whatever, Nickele sick nile

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 1>nipple nile. That is a goddamn song, twister, you know

0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>how that came out right stick simp niple fucking Anthony

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and I went out and I told him the whole

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>story and he says nothing the whole time, right, and

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't make me stop, and he goes, that's sick

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>nipple fuck and that became a god damn nickname. And

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:39.920
<v Speaker 1>we have one more color. What does gray mean? Gray

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>is bondage? Yes, so I am a rope bottom. You

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>are a rope bottom. That is the only time I bottom.

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I like that. So we had Sir Dash in here,

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and he has his muses that he enjoys um tying up,

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>but they do enjoy the act of being bonded as well.

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 1>So I really like that. And because we these so

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 1>had to have this conversation with you. Since you're now,

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I do want to ask you mentioned that you have clients,

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.919
<v Speaker 1>what do you do well in my vanilla life, which

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 1>is very boring. I am a clinical social worker, yes, corporate,

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 1>let's get it in your social worker. Yeah, so that's

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>what I do my nine and five job. Because when

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you said my clients, and in my leather life and

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>my kink life, I am a prodom and educator, presenter, model,

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 1>so I do all of those. But yeah, I have

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to um that I've had for the past what to

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>three years now, corporate clients that pay all my ship.

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 1>How do they find you? Um? Actually one of them

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 1>found me at a sex event. The other one found

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 1>me on Seeking Arrangements. Think that site works much anymore? Yeah,

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it. So I have um one that I call

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Mr World Street and the other one I call Mr

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Finance because one is an attorney over here down the

0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 1>block and the other one works in finance. No, they're great. Um.

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I graduated with another master's in May. Um say that

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>master because my my original was in forensic science and

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I was working in social work for the past fifteen years.

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>And in order to go beyond that, you need your license.

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:22.840
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, let me go back and do

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it because my ultimate goal was to open up my

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:31.600
<v Speaker 1>own practice, but specializing in b D, S, M and

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>kink for people of color who dealt with any type

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of sexual trauma. I love that. And that was a

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>PC that I didn't even I didn't even know, So

0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that's dope. And again, like we love being able

0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to bring people on that are in this space, but

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<v Speaker 1>that do not only solely live in this space. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you can be corporate and go to sex clubs on

0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the weekend. You can be maybe in a more submissive

0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:57.840
<v Speaker 1>role at your job and then be a complete down

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<v Speaker 1>when you go home. So I love that, Like, you're educated,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going and you're wanting to actually also combine the two,

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<v Speaker 1>so your education with making people in the space fel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really like that. That's really dope right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I just took on a role UM with

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<v Speaker 1>the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom UM and they are

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<v Speaker 1>basically volunteer base which across the country UM educating and

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<v Speaker 1>UM pushing awareness for b d S, M and kink.

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<v Speaker 1>But the great thing about it it's volunteer base, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have attorneys, you have accountants, it's all of the

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<v Speaker 1>because and I don't want it to sound condescending because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we have the show for a reason, be like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we need a coalition, Why do people need

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<v Speaker 1>to be why do we need awareness of king? So

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<v Speaker 1>the coalition is for a lot of things UM. You

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<v Speaker 1>will see them at different events throughout the city, UM

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the country. You can go to like UM. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the events that I go to is UM a

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<v Speaker 1>unity thing and it's for lgbt q I A plus

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<v Speaker 1>people of color and it's a networking thing. You'll see

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<v Speaker 1>them they're tabling because you have different avenues of kink

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<v Speaker 1>and people in those spaces, but they don't often talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you know, and fear of talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also to keep the community safe because you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of consent violators and when you're in kink

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<v Speaker 1>and b D s M, everything is your fault if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the cops. So it's a big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a place where you can go and report

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<v Speaker 1>things like consent violations, consent rate and all of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will be documented. So if you ever wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to know that if someone was a consent violator, you

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<v Speaker 1>can reach out to them and they will let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't say who made the report, but they would say, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had so and so many reports about this person

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<v Speaker 1>or so many reports about this event space, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's about keeping the community safe. I really like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because um, right now, what we do in

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<v Speaker 1>the community is as far as being proactive about talking

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<v Speaker 1>about consent violations is things usually spill over on both

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<v Speaker 1>social media and that's when you hear about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>of course no one ever gets facts. So the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing everyone does is pull out the pitchforks and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's on a rant, but just reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys see the Kiki Wendy Williams thing? Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy is shitty. Yeah, but I love how Kekey Palmer

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<v Speaker 1>likes it. Didn't even like hit me until like I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it the first time, but then watching it again,

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe being more well versed in consent because that

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<v Speaker 1>happened two years ago. He was like, why did I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what the fun? Yeah? The victim will always

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<v Speaker 1>be blamed. He was like, well I did. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>have a fucking minute? Actually, when you're in like an

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<v Speaker 1>area where there are people who are prominent within the

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<v Speaker 1>community or producers of events, no matter what you say,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you have valid proof of like the abuse, consent, violation, pictures, photos,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things, their little lynch mob it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump Fest and you'll go and attack you with

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<v Speaker 1>with those things and you're lying and you know that

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<v Speaker 1>whole gas lighting thing, and it sucks and you become

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<v Speaker 1>the outcast. Time well, speaking of all this ship and

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<v Speaker 1>what we was trying to get to you to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier, because he didn't came in, you didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know he was gonna talk about this. So the homemaale

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<v Speaker 1>protect it's homemale snitching on a married woman. Yeo, I

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<v Speaker 1>foss with you too. So I met this girl somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the niggas. I'm really like a little nick. So

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<v Speaker 1>I met this girl some so she h him you

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<v Speaker 1>hit me up. A couple of months later and we

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up. She lives in a different state, so I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would just be just when I'm in town thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Early nineteen. We started talking all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>pounded her a few more times and introduced her to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of kinky ship bondage, dom foot fetish. Then

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<v Speaker 1>she tells me she's married but they've been doing their

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<v Speaker 1>own thing for years, and was saying she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>leave him for me. They have two kids that I

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<v Speaker 1>met inbound with and I was working with her heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, yeah, leave him. Long story short.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came time to make it happen late nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>she kept making excuses. Then we fell out. She keeps

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<v Speaker 1>saying I love you so much, I'm just scared to

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<v Speaker 1>make the change, blah blah. I feel away because I

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<v Speaker 1>was fine with being a side ting, but she kept

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<v Speaker 1>pushing put puting I feel away anyway, she kept pushing

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<v Speaker 1>for a relationship between us. So here's my question. Would

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<v Speaker 1>it be wrong of me to out her to her

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<v Speaker 1>husband like I wanted to send him screenshots and videos

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<v Speaker 1>of us sucking at their apartment. Yes, I flew to

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<v Speaker 1>her city. I didn't want to start the pot until

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a lot of podcasts saying that never women

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<v Speaker 1>never get caught cheating. L O L help her brother out. PS.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty nine sheets thirty and I'm coming to the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit show. See y'all there you go. Oh, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to gotta bring him one that gotta be the home

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<v Speaker 1>and we gotta do a live or not. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the case to fucking Mary bitches. We're gonna bring

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<v Speaker 1>you on anyway. Um oh wait, or maybe we did

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<v Speaker 1>already because god damn this is after god damn Detroit Show.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna email him back. Um so, so, motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>you you are okay without it, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to He said videos that he said video sending videos

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<v Speaker 1>and fucking that's a little much. But you said, if

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<v Speaker 1>someone is coming to you and you see that they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, you don't mind going to the person

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<v Speaker 1>they're in a relationship with and saying you're person, your spouse,

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<v Speaker 1>your girlfriend, your boyfriend is trying to talk to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that that was the whole ship show that right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a whole different thing. You know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>the side thing umgory and you came into that dynamic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. It's not he it's coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of place of malice. I'm saying it as if I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there is a guy hitting me up on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and he has a partner and they're both Polly.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the case, maybe they're both Polly. Yes, even okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I will messenge her. Hey, isn't it okay? So and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was talking to me because I never want

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<v Speaker 1>to look like some sneaky ass person. What if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't if you know they're not what if you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not Polly? Oh no, same thing. Oh, same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's weird though, because so again I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had people follow me on I g like because

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<v Speaker 1>their man was following me and nothing. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>barely engaged with most people on the internet, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>engage with people that I know or things like that

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<v Speaker 1>we actually have mutual friends. When you said actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yay, she brought her on. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>guest on our show. I do want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we're all in agreeance though, because it seems vengeful. We

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<v Speaker 1>all agree that he no, no, I agree no, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's coming from and she was like videos and

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<v Speaker 1>not a place of informing. But more so, now you're

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<v Speaker 1>hurt because she decided not to leave her partner for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Is where I see that it's coming from, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>out of malice. I'm not doing anything like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying if you're saying that, because I'll ask straight out

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's male, female, whoever? Does your partner know we're

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<v Speaker 1>having this discussion. And if you say yeah, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go introduce myself. And you've been in this type

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<v Speaker 1>of yeah, I've never really been with a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>has a girl. But I went on a date with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was married, um in an open relationship. They

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<v Speaker 1>were both on the same site. I matched him. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>remember I was telling you he was on a Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>show and I recognized him from there and I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>him and he was like, hey, like literally second message,

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<v Speaker 1>just let you know I saw pictures of the girl,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, maybe it's not. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're totally open. Blah blah blah blah. Did you feel

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<v Speaker 1>the needs to A year before I went on a day,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel the need to write hurt. But also

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of his the date, she called twice

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, so sorry, Like I wouldn't have answered,

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<v Speaker 1>but she called me twice, so he walked out. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess she got locked out of the house or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he talked about how much he loved her

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<v Speaker 1>and like how much he cared about her, that let

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<v Speaker 1>me know this isn't for me, but I want this

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. Like I can't be on the receiving end,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, because I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>get too many feelings of either jealousy or not. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe I'm even normal and polly to

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<v Speaker 1>be jealous. You know. People say, oh, you can't be jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's human behavin about communication, you know, and how you're

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<v Speaker 1>reacting to that jealousy. And I know that because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been on I was dude once, I was dude, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was dude. I have video choose let me, not

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<v Speaker 1>even front, but I never sent it, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment of anger and insecurity that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I should be that bit because he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna feel like but also because I knew that that person,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike in his situation make an excuse. I knew the

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<v Speaker 1>person was lying about it. And then what you were

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<v Speaker 1>saying about jealousy to me, I think it's important, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>to understand, we get we feel that feeling of jealousy,

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<v Speaker 1>but to know what would make you jealous, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why when I talk about either an open relationship or

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<v Speaker 1>however the case may be, I've said multiple times I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what you fucking someone else, that wouldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>me jealous. But the emotion of you taking someone on

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<v Speaker 1>a date, And we talked about this when you're dating

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<v Speaker 1>lover boy and letting him go on dates, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh girl, I could never because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you intimately learning somebody or spending time with them outside

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<v Speaker 1>of sex, to me, would make me more jealous than

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<v Speaker 1>you just sucking a bit. So it's also knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>triggers that jealousy, like if it's kissing in a threesome

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<v Speaker 1>like lay Lay those things out because yeah, again we

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<v Speaker 1>can't control it or jealous of but I think we

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<v Speaker 1>know what triggers us being jealous. So even just being

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<v Speaker 1>open with that, communicating that with your partner, if you

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<v Speaker 1>do decide to be Polly. So okay, I'm glad we're

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<v Speaker 1>all on the same page with this. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>before we get out of do it. You just don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It's out of malice, it's out of like

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<v Speaker 1>just you feeling use abused and you being hurt. I

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<v Speaker 1>would never say here's your fault and never to mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>like you went in that apartment knowing like that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of girls, her kids, You really dedry, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>do wanna before we get out of here, where can

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners um, new listeners, old listeners, um wor hive?

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<v Speaker 1>Where can they find you? We are going to put

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<v Speaker 1>all of this in the description of the episode as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but where can our listeners find you? You can find

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<v Speaker 1>me on I g um at Inc, Underscore Stained, Underscore Skin,

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<v Speaker 1>same on fat Life. I'm not on Twitter since Trump

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<v Speaker 1>blocked me, so there was no leave for me to

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<v Speaker 1>have an account anymore. A lot of president they got

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<v Speaker 1>blocked by his I mean we don't. He's not our president.

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<v Speaker 1>But at roll time, so much. Please. Half of the

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<v Speaker 1>housewives blocked my ass too. I was strolling everybody. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only blocked by Jackie. Um, Jackie, Jackie, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted her to come on, but then I saw

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<v Speaker 1>was blocked. Wet. I don't know. I was watching the

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<v Speaker 1>show probably talk about it. Yeah, that's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing obviously, you know, so I got blocked. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so we're gonna put that in the description.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you have any any websites that maybe um

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<v Speaker 1>they can reach out to you or can they just

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<v Speaker 1>d M you if they have question DM me and um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hit me up. If you have any questions, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know about anything prodom related, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know anything about kink and leather and being black

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<v Speaker 1>and getting into the community and events, hit me up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to go. So can you have a nice

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<v Speaker 1>long email like we had a few weeks back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it was ridiculous. I'm gonna say, just

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<v Speaker 1>started intro black paragraph the body and my husband and

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<v Speaker 1>I we really why don't have a husband? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that. I'm just like, that was im Yeah. Anyways, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>before we head out of here again, we're looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing all of you guys on tour again. Also

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<v Speaker 1>at Moca Fees. We want everybody, um to to just

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<v Speaker 1>turn up, have a good time, Come and find a third,

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<v Speaker 1>come and find a partner, Come and find a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Um our our audio is almost like being in this

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<v Speaker 1>community or being at a sex club where you get

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<v Speaker 1>to meet like minded people. So bring that as come. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna leave you guys off with a five minute

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<v Speaker 1>that we were happen at the right time. I was like, Gerky,

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<v Speaker 1>you come on the show like um, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe our our audience was really like wanting you to

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<v Speaker 1>come on too. So I'm excited that you can come

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<v Speaker 1>on teach me things that I didn't know what. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a whole audience. Um. Also, are you said

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Horror Decisions. Fight guys, buncle up, get

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<v Speaker 1>your little popcorn, your glass of the wine. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a motherfucking story. So she writes, I get this at am,

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<v Speaker 1>so they was up late. Argument. I didn't catch it

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<v Speaker 1>till the next day because they was fighting visually. I

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<v Speaker 1>will so I get a d M. It says, listen, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>we never met one on one, but you need to

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<v Speaker 1>fall back before we have problems. That is how this

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<v Speaker 1>all that. I write it, and I just smirked hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>I smirked hold on because I don't hold on. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me go back. Look, I haven't in order. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you can't read it, because I have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I have three D screenshots in order. Look Zilla getting

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<v Speaker 1>a chair. So my my initial response, my initial response

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<v Speaker 1>to her was a screenshot of our conversation that day.

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<v Speaker 1>He hit me up that day and said, you miss me.

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<v Speaker 1>I responded, I don't though, scram He said, l O

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<v Speaker 1>L you're such a bit. I said, dealing with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm over you. You happy with you? Woman?

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<v Speaker 1>You got it? Leave me be. His response, Damn, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't be friends. We ain't shipping no more. Huh. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what your nigga is writing me. So I literally

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<v Speaker 1>like the most perfect response. So I send her the

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<v Speaker 1>screenshot and I said, you know the man you're with,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever problems you have should be with him, not with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I sent her the screenshot of her nigga saying, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be friends. We ain't shipping no mo. Huh Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what she gets. Her response, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to send my insights to my polosist. Her response,

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<v Speaker 1>boom oh, okay, okay, read read the top part so

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<v Speaker 1>you got okay, co read it because there's parts in

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<v Speaker 1>there that are laughable, So please read it slow and

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<v Speaker 1>with a tone. This is the paragraph. This is her

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<v Speaker 1>response after I send the screenshot of her man saying

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<v Speaker 1>we ain't we can't be We ain't shouldn't no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's her response. Read it Read it so her response

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<v Speaker 1>to the screenshot of her nigga to me, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know he has someone, so why keep being a home record.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's all good though. I dealt with him and

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<v Speaker 1>you won't be able to reach him anymore because he

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<v Speaker 1>changed his number. He ain't the best I know, but

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<v Speaker 1>things have gotten better. Then I see y'all's messages. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I care? Right, it's like, why you entertaining other people?

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<v Speaker 1>Men that ship don't get old. Also, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with everyone in the situation, especially when you know

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<v Speaker 1>about me and last year you bluntly disrespected me by

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<v Speaker 1>posting him regardless of what he tells you. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Oh no, no, because now don't pull up

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<v Speaker 1>her page yet because you're gonna be like, oh, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>look like cousin. She got a big gas. All my

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<v Speaker 1>niggas have types. I look very close to all my

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<v Speaker 1>niggas bitches. Um. I don't know what she is. She's

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<v Speaker 1>oldest that so listen hold on, guys. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>she writes to me. This is my response to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not wrecking any home. He was single then at

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<v Speaker 1>least that's what he is saying when he gets in

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<v Speaker 1>my phone. I know of you being around the same

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<v Speaker 1>way I've been around for the last nine years. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know to what capacity your relationship is with him

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<v Speaker 1>when you're on or when you're off. If he's in

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, I don't assume you're in the picture. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm entertaining a grown single man at those times, la

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<v Speaker 1>mao at regardless of what he tells me. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is something you need to take up with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, her name, not me. Get a ring that

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<v Speaker 1>would be more telling of where y'all stand. Stop. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I wrote her was shady. I was being respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, get a ring that would be more telling

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<v Speaker 1>of where y'all stand. Unless the next time he hits

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<v Speaker 1>my phone telling me he's single, you would like for

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<v Speaker 1>me to check in with you first. Her response after that,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, this is the funny thing. She's already told

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<v Speaker 1>me he's changed his number. He won't be contacting you

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<v Speaker 1>no more. Next thing, you know, hold on? Oh oh wait.

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<v Speaker 1>So I asked her this, her response, this is before

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<v Speaker 1>we get her response after that, she says, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>leaving together for seven years. I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I bring in her misspelling. We've been leaving together for

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<v Speaker 1>seven years. I'm not just around. His kids live with us.

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<v Speaker 1>He left a year and went to another state. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only time I wasn't around. But it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't talk to you anymore. I guarantee that. I

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<v Speaker 1>double tapped her message and said, I said, please guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to tell him we are done. He

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<v Speaker 1>won't leave me alone. H sound this girl