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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, hor Hive. This is Wheezy and I'm here

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Speaker 1: to tell you about where we're coming this week, coming

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Speaker 1: just added a few more tickets because we know that

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Speaker 1: we have been tryling to come to Dallas and we

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Speaker 1: It's on at Canton Hall, Okay, Houston this Sunday coming up,

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Speaker 1: Following that, we're going to be in Charlotte on March

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Speaker 1: will be there on March at center Stage. There are

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Speaker 1: also a few ticket lefts for this show Toronto. March

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Speaker 1: the comments. We are coming soon. Really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing you. Guys. Get your tickets at Horrible Decisions dot

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Speaker 1: Have you dealing? Baby? I don't know what fucking what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing? Hi, guys, it's Horrible Decisions, God damn it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, now you know that it is my

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Speaker 1: god damn job. All right, this is your girl, Mandy

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Speaker 1: something twenty um Angela. You might have heard me on

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Speaker 1: you know what, God damn it, they denied his visa

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Speaker 1: and I'm a playing citizen and if I want to

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Speaker 1: I've got the funds. Yeah, that's wheezy. You know here,

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Speaker 1: I'm a me mall to eight kids, and I just

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Speaker 1: So we we all? You know. Even so, growing up black,

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Speaker 1: Y'all here a third motherfucking boy us on here and

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Speaker 1: guess what I'm gonna works on. I'm gonna work on

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Speaker 1: properly introducing our motherfucking guests. So check this out. We

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Speaker 1: in the b DSM leather community for more than twenty years.

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Speaker 1: By the way, unless you started it five years old,

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Speaker 1: She has competed and one Miss Henrietta Hudson Fetish two

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Speaker 1: So if you can't tell, we're finally going to get

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Speaker 1: history which we're gonna dig into, that's what it was.

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Speaker 1: So if you can, you know, welcome yourself to horrible decisions.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in. And is there anything else

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Speaker 1: by You've done a lot of things. So what else

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Speaker 1: that's not so what you do with fame of Converse?

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Speaker 1: us on YouTube Liquid right now has a leather sash?

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Speaker 1: Is this from you winning? Like? What is this? The

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Speaker 1: There was actually four titles. This is Northeast Leather Person,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I don't know what your Instagram

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Speaker 1: there's other ship. Listen. It was just shut the funk

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Speaker 1: what is like your favorite food? It's she can't live

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Speaker 1: without ice cream? That is her favorite food. I can

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Speaker 1: We can't even kiss after I eat ice cream. I can't. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know it's because another bitch was making breakfast, Like

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Speaker 1: I really feel like that sea because there's only so

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Speaker 1: much avocado toast. I could, dude, but I ain't even

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Speaker 1: to this place called Yoke. I love eggs. I'd be

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Speaker 1: like you, I'm gonna go to breakfast. Sorry, you probably

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Speaker 1: can't eat here, mind, y'all. I shared a story when

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Speaker 1: we were younger. I took her to a soul food restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Forgot that cheese, mom and M's forgot big mac and

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Speaker 1: die she started. I was like, oh, sh it's big

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Speaker 1: mac and cheese. Bitch. My bad. And so I don't

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Speaker 1: I could. So let me ask you, what is the

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Speaker 1: food you cannot live without? And would you be willing

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Speaker 1: box he can see even the apartment number. I'm in.

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Speaker 1: Nothing about a nice maintenance man. And in my mind,

424
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Speaker 1: I just gave a serial killer my address and we

425
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Speaker 1: shouldn't think that's like, you know, Uber drivers be thinking

426
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: they gotta talk for tip, not killing me tips. We

427
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Speaker 1: are coming back to you this week with the Horrid

428
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Speaker 1: Derv's segment, where we serve up a new sex tip

429
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Speaker 1: every week. This one comes from one of our top

430
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Speaker 1: tier patrons. Shout out to Tay Richie actually is helping

431
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Speaker 1: me manage the group chat um for our patrons, and

432
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: he said, use the tip of your fingers slash nails

433
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: to tickle the balls and gooch. It provides a nice

434
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Speaker 1: sensation while we're getting hit and when the spot starts

435
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: dropping down and mixes with the tickle nigga all caps.

436
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: I will say, However, if you are dealing with a

437
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Speaker 1: man who does not want you down by the gooch,

438
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: this is still something I think that needs to be compassion.

439
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: I would say that sounds like that he said, nail,

440
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: it don't matter, you'll get down there. He could, he

441
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: could kick you so you could get your asshole. Gooch

442
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: is the space between your testicles and your asshole right

443
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Speaker 1: whe But if you're holding balls, you're technically touching the

444
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Speaker 1: gooch because your nails are right there. I would still say,

445
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: y'all know the type of niggas you fucking? I would

446
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: still ask before because yeah, no, no, I was still asked.

447
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: I've been really wanting to like finger my dudes ass

448
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: whole and every time see like I played the podcast

449
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: ones to find a minute mark for something. I think

450
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: it was the holiday episode, and he heard peg this

451
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: time and he goes, who is that is that? You

452
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: was that many? I was like, that's Mandy and he

453
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: was like, oh, so you'll be paying because this is

454
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm okay, God damn. And then literally that episode we

455
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: started talking about how you got to get a nigga

456
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: wide open, just the clip he had to hear. He

457
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to be surprised. I don't

458
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: want you to just let me like it's gonna ruin

459
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Speaker 1: the time. It's funny because most most people think that,

460
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Speaker 1: like I won't deal with a guy who doesn't let

461
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Speaker 1: me peg him, which isn't the case. Like, there are

462
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Speaker 1: a ton of guys where I share the craziest, wildest

463
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Speaker 1: things I've done. Of course, pegging is the most wild

464
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: and crazy to most people, so I share that and

465
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: thing pegging and like the sex club ship, like niggas

466
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Speaker 1: also think like a sex club like them should think this.

467
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: So they're really into me doing like being at the

468
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: sex club, but pegging is still and then it gets

469
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: into the whole thing and they're like, So there are

470
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Speaker 1: men that I've talked to that aren't okay with them,

471
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: I'd be like, it's okay. You cannot be okay. And

472
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: as I used to think pegging was the craziest thing

473
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: I've ever done, but then I ate that cream pie.

474
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Speaker 1: So then you had periods sense which which one's worse?

475
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: What hold on you is worse than pegging? Yes, what's

476
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: the problem this? It's blood? You have it every month.

477
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: It's literally your body. Do you know I cringe every

478
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: time I wipe. I don't like blood, bro, you don't

479
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: need to get one of them, Like, God, damn it.

480
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: Why do I have to be a woman. That's probably

481
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Speaker 1: why I act like a nigger club. It's gotta be believed. Literally,

482
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 1: it's only three days. Um, we are Um. Although we

483
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: are moving away from this segment, I thought that we

484
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: could still keep this segment in because why liquid is here.

485
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: So the kink of the week and what we're gonna

486
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: dive into for the horrible decision is none other than

487
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Speaker 1: leather subculture. Um. And so the leather subculture, which I

488
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: want you to um hop in here any point. Actually,

489
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get through this and then we're gonna talk

490
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 1: into what leather subculture is and dive into this. So

491
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: the leather subculture, which is the kink guys. Dnotes practices

492
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: and styles of dress organized around sexual activities that involve

493
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Speaker 1: leather garments, such as leather jackets, vests, boots, chaps, harnesses,

494
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: or other items. Wearing leather garments is one way that

495
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: participants in this culture self consciously distinguish themselves from mainstream

496
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: and sexual cultures. Many participants associate leather culture with b

497
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Speaker 1: D s M, and it's many subcultures. First, some black

498
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: leather clothing is an erotic fashion that expresses heightened masculinity

499
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Speaker 1: or the appropriation of sexual power. So the love of motorcycles,

500
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: motorcycle clubs and independence and or engagement and sexual kink

501
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: or leather fetishism. That was That was good right that

502
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I literally was was texting Liquid this morning, like girl,

503
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: I found this. You know about this, We're gonna talk

504
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: about this. So this is something although we we've I've

505
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Speaker 1: worn leather um at the live show last year in

506
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: d c UM and when I think of Dominatrix, of

507
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: course I think of of leather. But we've never really

508
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: talked about leather subculture. You talk about wearing chokers and

509
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: even your ball gag was leather, right, Yeah, I mean

510
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: I like the what was I gonna say, like the

511
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: chokers with the long not like a leash, but the

512
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: thing the fringe. And I wear harnesses with a lot

513
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: of my clothes to leather harnesses. But I didn't know

514
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: I was like turning on. Yeah, so I wanted to

515
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you in terms of leather, where

516
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: does arousal come out of wearing it? Does it come

517
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: more out of seeing someone in it? What? Where does

518
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: the sexual aspect of leather? It depends and it varies

519
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: from person to person, like for me personally leather having

520
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: a leather heart and a leather lifestyle. You don't have

521
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: to own leather to be leather. Okay you said a

522
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: leather heart. Yeah, I have a leather heart. I like that. Um,

523
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: you don't have to own leather to be leather. You know,

524
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: prior to leather lifestyle being a big thing, there was

525
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: always leather LEVI people who wore jeans with their leather

526
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: chaps and things. So you know, I know many people

527
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: shore leather lifestyle that you know, they wear their pins

528
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: and everything else on their geane jackets and leather. It's expensive.

529
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Not now it is can't afford leather, but um, pleather,

530
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: it's also another option guy. You know, for me it

531
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: encompasses you know, the dom and me the strength the top.

532
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: You know, it is sexy to look at. Um. It

533
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: makes me feel good and powerful when I'm out. But um,

534
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: some people it for men, mostly that strong masculinity, so

535
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: you know when you see them in full on formal uniform,

536
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: formal gear. You know, some people like yourself, were harnesses.

537
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I love wearing harness. I love harnesses too. And we

538
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: talked about this. Is there a difference between leather and latex?

539
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: There isn't a For me, there isn't a difference. I

540
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: love yeah both. Yeah. I thought maybe they would be like,

541
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: but you have late liquids. Leather it okay for me,

542
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: I wear both. Okay, I don't wear both at the

543
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: same time. That's that's just I was about to say

544
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: that could be hot burn. Um. Something that I found,

545
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: um and that I wanted to bring into just the

546
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: kink of the week before we dive into leather and

547
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: kink is something that I found called a leather bar.

548
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if you know of any in

549
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: New York or anywhere that you've been really, so we'll

550
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: talk about that. So a leather bar in America is

551
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: a bar frequented by gays, often sayto Massacus, dressed typically

552
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: in leather garments. Um. And this is of course where

553
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: the word origin of leather bar comes from. Um. Do

554
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: you have to wear leather to get into these bars?

555
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: And in what area are leather bars in New York

556
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: or anywhere else? You been everywhere? Um? Most of them

557
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: are down in Chelsea and in the village around that area. Um.

558
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: One of the ones that I frequent is Eagle, NYC.

559
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: Its male. But so and there's typical rules for leather bars,

560
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: especially that are frequented by men. Do you know some

561
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: some of those rules? Yes? Okay, what's the rules for bar?

562
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: If you're going in as a woman. You cannot wear

563
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: any perfume, right because they like their natural smells and

564
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: that is very interesting and fucking an ass and gets

565
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: that smell. They don't want to smell perfume and high

566
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: fem things like that. It takes away Oh wow, did

567
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: you did you notice that at the leather bar that

568
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: you went to there? No, I don't know if it

569
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: was like a serious fucking leather so like the Eagle

570
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: I went to and had a leather night and I

571
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: know it's a leather bar, so the leather so okay,

572
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: So there's a leather but they weren't requiring it, so

573
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: it's not. Man, it's not mandatory. It is a leather bar,

574
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: but it's not mandatory. There is a close check when

575
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: you walk in, so most people check their clothes at

576
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: the close check. In the country, it's always like the skanky, dirty,

577
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: grimy gay bar. I don't know why, right Austin when

578
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: we were reading, I'm like, EGO, don't think he was

579
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: like yeah, and that one's gross, but we love it,

580
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: like every fucking eagle. Is it interest at a franchise

581
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: because you have DC ego, you have a franchise. Yeah,

582
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'll be there on the seventeenth um for

583
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: mid Atlantic Leather. But you also have San Francisco Ego.

584
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow. So guys, if you're interested in going to

585
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: a leather bar, um, you can look up the eagle

586
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: in your city and see if one is there. What

587
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: are other rules if one of our listeners wants to

588
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: go to an other bar, So, ladies, if you want

589
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: to go, don't wear perfumes, perving, perving, perving. Perferving is staring,

590
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: but in a way that it's more than that. It's

591
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: just like if someone is in a scene and they're playing,

592
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: give them their space. You don't stand up and hover

593
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: over someone. It throws them. Well, Um, if you guys

594
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: are interested in going to sex clubs, um a lot

595
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: of times like you do. Like people will let you

596
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: know if they want to be washed or if they

597
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: don't want to be washed, or you can make people

598
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: uncomfortable even though you're you're you want to be a

599
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: voyor there's a way to voider without making someone uncomfortable.

600
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: So you want to watch people engaging in sex from

601
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: a distance, you definitely don't want to hover over them.

602
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: So I like that. So no perving. I didn't know

603
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: there was a name for that. Uh. Consent, consent, consent,

604
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, don't just assume because you're in another gay

605
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: bar that you know you can touch jointing someone seen anything,

606
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: even from you know, I've gotten to women are the

607
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: worst in gay bars for the consent by the way,

608
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Yes they are and they're touching. Yeah, and it's not fair.

609
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: It's not fair even even for us as women, like

610
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: I think gay men approached it the same way too,

611
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: because they figure, you know, well they know they don't

612
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: want the gay men are touchy and women to gay

613
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: men are touchy. So I think that that's something with

614
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: consent that we haven't really touched on. Actually yeah, and

615
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: that we should do that in spaces you have. Is

616
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: it okay to hug you? Are you a handshaker? You know,

617
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: things like that, because some people aren't into that. You know,

618
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: some people don't like to be hugged. Um, I'm okay

619
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: with being hugged if I have. I have my own rules.

620
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't like my perfume, I don't like

621
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: the smell of pits, So I'll shake your hand. I

622
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: just did something a Google with shout out to Layla

623
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: and her co host where the girl. She was so funny.

624
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: She was like kind of tense. I remember when I

625
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: hugged her for a second and then we all had

626
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: drinks after, and she was like, I really don't like that.

627
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I just don't find it necessary. I don't need it,

628
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: I don't want it. Like it's fine. So when I

629
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: was leaving, like I patted her on the bag. I

630
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: was like, I know, how comfortable, And she was like

631
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: she looked at me like she was relieved. It's crazy

632
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: because I always hug people and I always ask for consent,

633
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: and never I was gonna say, yeah, I don't think

634
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: I asked for consent problems either, And I kiss on

635
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: the cheek like I'm a lot and I forget that

636
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: fucking people don't like this ship bro In a world

637
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: where everything seems to be heightened, you know, I'm always weary,

638
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: especially in places where B D S, M. Kink you know,

639
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: is involved, because consent violation is a huge issue, you know,

640
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: and it's something that is talked about, but not in

641
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: a way that it should. Everything always escalates to social

642
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: media when it tried it, you know, it's like, oh,

643
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: three years later, you violated my consent and instead of

644
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: bringing it to you that day, three years later on

645
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: bringing up now on social So that's what else I

646
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you in these spaces again because of

647
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: social media. So in sex clubs literally or in the

648
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: Nude Beach, even at Hedonism when we went in Jamaica,

649
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: they literally like there's like an unspoken almost no phone policy.

650
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: So in leather bars because people are in chaps or

651
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: maybe dressed a certain way that maybe they don't dress

652
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: in a corporate setting. Is there a phone policy that

653
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: they require at all? Do you know so in in

654
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: leather bars the same as in like rope spaces, because

655
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: I do a lot of rope. You do do a

656
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: lot of rope. Yes. We have a thing where we say,

657
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: if you're going to take pictures, ask the person first.

658
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: Don't be like, oh, let me take a picture and

659
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: then take the picture and the persons like I didn't

660
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: allow you to do that, But you asked the person beforehand.

661
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: Is it okay to take a picture. You make sure

662
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: there is no one else and take a picture of

663
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: that person, because again you don't know, you know, who

664
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: knows what or what people are doing for me. I'm

665
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: open about my ship. I'm never running for president. I

666
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: have so much out on the internet it doesn't make

667
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: a difference to me. But but party, it's see, it's

668
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: crazy how all the world thinks I know the same

669
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: things I know. I've read the sex pod. I wouldn't

670
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: want that. Also went to a sex party and a

671
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: girl was like, yo, like let's take a picture and

672
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely not, Like oh wow, no, we

673
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: were totally close, we were outside of it, and I

674
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I don't know what it is. So

675
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: even we talked about it, even you at Hedonism, you

676
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: were like, damn, I know people were having sex publicly,

677
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: but you did say you're scared what if someone records

678
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: you and scissors or you and a man doing anything.

679
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: You still don't want that intimate level out. So you're like,

680
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I would do anything because in the

681
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: front Hedonism was not a place where I found out

682
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: that people would do that. But like it hit me

683
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: when you were in the pool dancing that there's always

684
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: one yeah, and even though you didn't care, he didn't

685
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: know if you cared, it wasn't a big deal. Like

686
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: she was in the pool right and it was daytime,

687
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: fully closed. But I was like, I just saw this

688
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: guy with with this go pro and I noticed it,

689
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like, like I said, like many cared,

690
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: but like I know she didn't see it initially, and

691
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: I was just like, well, what if you didn't want it?

692
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: That's the thing though, too, I will say most people

693
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: in this space do respect that. So I actually was

694
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: able to attend a few days of Moka Fest when

695
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: I was in um did I go to Cancoon part

696
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: of Mexico was on yeah, little bit like what part

697
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: of Mexico was? I did to lose the first listen

698
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: geography geography, so I wasn't. I was a Kidcoon and

699
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: Moca Fest and I remember, um, we were in the pool.

700
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: There was a pool party day and they had girls

701
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: go up on stage and twerk and it was a

702
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: turk contest and then they pulled out the bananas. And

703
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: at that moment, like literally, the DJ was like, yo,

704
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: everybody take their fucking phones away. He paused the whole

705
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: thing because he was like, Nick, you did you not

706
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: listen to me? Embarrass him was like, oh, you must

707
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: not get pussy like literally, because you want to allow

708
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: people to have a very good time. But also a

709
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: lot of people in this space do have corporate jobs.

710
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: You and I, you know, came from corporate America where

711
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: we didn't want people to necessarily know we were going

712
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: to sex clubs, or we feared our coworkers seeing that,

713
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: or that so much association with like that anything next

714
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: to you. My agent literally said to me, like, I

715
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: get that, your sex pot is why Wheezy is a

716
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: person and is a thing where she's branching out. She

717
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: told me that, Like, there was this vibrating company that

718
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: wanted to do something with me. She was like, you

719
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: cannot take pictures with a vibrator. And I was like,

720
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: what the fund is the big deal? I fucking put

721
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: on a diaper on my show. And she's like, the

722
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: things that I am pitching you for, you can't do that.

723
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: She's like, sex pot is cool, don't put a vibrator

724
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: in your hand. She's like, literally talk about the vibrator.

725
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. That's where I'm like, even even

726
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: with our past, which is why I'm trying to like

727
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: the things that I'm doing solo won't be sex associated.

728
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Because like I had the opportunity to do a brand

729
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: deal with I won't say their name because them they

730
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: didn't give me check, but we were talking with them. Um,

731
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I had my girl who pitches me to too brands,

732
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: and so it was a company that fixes to teeth

733
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: and clearly I'm getting you know, I want Visilne or

734
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: whatever the is maybe to fix my teeth without going

735
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: the bracest route. And so we're having this back and

736
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: forth with them, and literally this company was like I

737
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: love her engagement, I love her you know, everything that

738
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: we but our youngest consumer it's twelve, and so because

739
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: our youngest consumer is twelve, she doesn't align with what

740
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: she and Booty actually told me the thing about how

741
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: she won't take a picture with a vibrator either either,

742
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: which is crazy because she is PAP and is fuck

743
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: known as a sex educator, but won't take a picture

744
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: with a vibrator. And it's to me that shows you

745
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: the correlation between like you could talk it, but like

746
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: once we see it, like it's just something about that image.

747
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about photos and what's

748
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: those things. Our very first photos shoot for Horrible Decisions,

749
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: we had a dial dough that ship got removed star right, yes,

750
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: so we don't even do deals womanizer that I've done

751
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: with the duel. It's not really the shape of a penis,

752
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: So I like, I was, okay, look like a guy,

753
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: damn vulval like, but anything with the dick shaped, like

754
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: I remember, even our very first live show, we tried

755
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: to put our Horrible Decisions logo um on Snapchat and

756
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: because the fucking bananas insinuated a dick, we Snapchat won't

757
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: allow our filter and every way, but I wrote a

758
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: sketch that got accepted by a show network thing. Literally,

759
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: they had so many questions about horrible decisions that I

760
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: didn't even want to give it to them anymore. I

761
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: was like, this isn't even about sex. Do you guys

762
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: think it's funny? It was a scene I set up

763
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: in a restaurant. You want it, and now you're so

764
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: fucking worried about everybody stockstick. Let's be very everybody. Every

765
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: everybody guys for y'all, not everybody, but most people, mostly,

766
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: most people. Most people do. She said, sutic, I know, suctic.

767
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: I know, mom, this tectic grandma grandma sucking this year

768
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine. He and I went from now you know

769
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: she was a grandma. She could have just been Oh

770
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: with no kids, don't call her grandma. Not everybody having kids. Okay,

771
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: i'm ama, you are not a mema. I have adult children.

772
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: So um, you are watching this YouTube. I can't believe

773
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: it either? Can we can? We are? We are we

774
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: allowed to ask what? No? You don't ask her age.

775
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: You can't ever ask a woman her age? And women

776
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: I come my youngest is fifteen, son, okay, okay, can

777
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: you believe it? I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

778
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, when I asked the thirty, okay,

779
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Yeah, that's crazy, Okay, so you saw.

780
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: So I went to Beach Pine, which is like this

781
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: amazing rope event that is held at het and it's

782
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: a two week event of rope and kink and debauchery

783
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: and all this fun stuff. And it's like six am

784
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: and should I could barely get up on a regular

785
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: day when I have to go to work, but while

786
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm on vacation, I seen to wake up early every time.

787
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, let me go make a

788
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: tate by the beach. I saw a shell boy he's

789
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: selling some ship and I'm like, yeah, hey Tanning, and

790
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm hearing this noise in my left there you go,

791
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: and I go to turn my head over and this

792
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: woman had to be in her seventies and she's blowing

793
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: out her man. So I turned to the right and

794
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: here's do going down on his girl, and I'm like,

795
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: funk man. So I'm like looking straight now. And then

796
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: you have a woman who's tied to a tree and

797
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: she's blowing her man, and I'm like, am I the

798
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: fucking only one? Am? I the only one. Now do

799
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: you know what it was? It's because like I meditated

800
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: for a day and then like chicot weird. Then I

801
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: went to the gym and then got speakers to heat.

802
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: She's like going to the gym this morning. Were so

803
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: we're so on over? I said, why is there a

804
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: anyone in the gym on them? What is so like?

805
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: Un the funk up being up since five am? This

806
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: bitch is in the gym while we're coming out to

807
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: get breakfast. Most things I enjoy. We are interrupting this

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Speaker 1: let's get back to the show. Anyways, I want to

834
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Speaker 1: get into the horrible decision. Of course, it is leather

835
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: and kink Um Liquid has participated in the We Are

836
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: Leather Women project, which brings awareness to the contributions of

837
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: women in the leather community. I wanted to talk about

838
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: that and kind of the history of women joining the

839
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: leather community because for when I was looking into it.

840
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: Most of the history did start more with gay mails.

841
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: So can you talk about women now being a part

842
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: of the leather community women. I've actually been a part

843
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: of the love of crenew for years. Like I said,

844
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: I came up with a little twenty years ago, and

845
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: I came up um in the scene with gay men,

846
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: So I was like the token fem and UM. I

847
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: used to go to parties and events in the city

848
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: and the first place that I went to back then

849
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: was the Vault. The Vault was this underground sex club

850
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: that became a huge thing amongst celebrities, and you had

851
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: different floors and this is in New York. Yeah, fourteen, Um,

852
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: it's not there anymore. It ended up getting shut down,

853
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: didn't we get a trapeze shut down to down too? Yeah.

854
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: So you would go through these floors and you would

855
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: see everything from sex, spanking, wax play, all of those things.

856
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: And from my first month or so of attending, I

857
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: was like knee deep into it, literally, And I met

858
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: so many women through going to these events because you

859
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: had to know someone to get into these places, and

860
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: there weren't but a few women of color. Oh that

861
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: we're openly out there because kink was still taboo, you know,

862
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: and then being it still is. I mean, we still

863
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: get quite the reactions from some of the conversations we

864
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: have on end, which is why we're we're trying to

865
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: normalize just a little bit. But like, yeah, like so

866
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: the fact that you've been in it for twenty years,

867
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: you're seeing more women of color now into it. What

868
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: else did this space bring and and you know, what

869
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: did you bring to it? My my dominant perspective of

870
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: being a strong black because we're as black women and

871
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: just as a black culture in general. When in kink

872
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: we're fetishized. We talked about that, Yes, we are fetishized

873
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: from like the moment we walk in. Our narrative is

874
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: written by the people that are in that room. So

875
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: you have um women who they automatically expect to be submissive,

876
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, in some spaces, and that's that's far far

877
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: from it. I thought it was the opposite. And I

878
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: thought that, like, if you're fetishizing a black girl and

879
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: like the king space because you want them to dumb you,

880
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: I always thought not in every instance, No, you have

881
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: white men that want to own black women. You have

882
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: because you have white men who want to own black

883
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: men as slaves because we're always talking female. So it's

884
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: like I was about, Yeah, a lot of the domes.

885
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Of course, we we interview um black women in the space,

886
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: and so you have the doms. But most of the

887
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: time they want the men want to be sub to them. Yeah,

888
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: my people that I come across, and they know because

889
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: I demand a presence when I walk in a room,

890
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of the people I interact with,

891
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: even my clients, are all submissive, you know, and that's

892
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: what I bring to the table. But I do get

893
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot of young women in kink that don't necessarily know,

894
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: so they're easily preyed upon as predators come in and oh,

895
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'll help you and I'll mentor you and

896
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: help you navigate, and then they end up screwed in

897
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: some situation. But if you look on places like fat Life,

898
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: fat Life has a white men for niggers or and

899
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: e er niggers, no niggers, only have you met women

900
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: that are okay with playing that role? Like do you

901
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: know many women of color that play that role? Every little?

902
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: But I went into the group just to be nosy,

903
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: and I was just like I was cringing at the

904
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: who the fucking their right mind there? We both said,

905
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: that's what they're like, BBC. All we're not gonna talk

906
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: about BBC. You know, I'm curious you who only likes

907
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: black cock. I can't help it. I like it. Ton't

908
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: even call it. Okay, I don't even call it, but

909
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: I do like that point. You know, white people made it.

910
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: We call the bb D. I wouldn't say nothing, but well,

911
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna change. They don't even say

912
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: it like that. If you go on to fat life

913
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: and you look at those if you just in the

914
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: search engine of fat Life, they're not they just like,

915
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like, but I'm like, really, it's

916
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: just like, so there's women that are seeking this from men,

917
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: but a lot of a lot of the white men

918
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: are wanting to actually only with a black man because

919
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: of Yah. Yeah, she's probably find it on barn hup

920
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: to rep Tube everywhere. A wow. And so how do you,

921
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: as a black woman come into this space and make

922
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: sure you're not being taken advantage of because of your

923
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: color or because of you being a black woman. You

924
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Everyone, I'm so sorry. The first

925
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: thing that came up is white girls say the N word.

926
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Ultimate compilation. There's a compilation of white women saying the

927
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: N word. Oh my, don't play it. No, no, because

928
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: I know you'd be liking to ship. We don't need

929
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're about to do right now. That

930
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: is face right. No, that is that is crazy that

931
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: there's a compilation. But I wouldn't have thought that even

932
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: with the men that I deal with, as far as

933
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: in terms of my community and my Black brothers and

934
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: my Spanish brothers who are in King. They post the

935
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: conversations that they get on Grinder and other places where

936
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: it's like let me suck your nigger dick and this

937
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: that like people send them ship and I'm like, where

938
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: in your mind is this okay? And they're thinking that

939
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: this is a turn off, so that a black man

940
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: or a Spanish man is supposed to be like, here,

941
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: you can suck my dick now because you called me

942
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: a nigger. Yeah that's bullshit. So so okay. So moving

943
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: back into just being a a strong black woman in

944
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: the space, where how do you move about not being

945
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: preyed on? And for women who are looking to get

946
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: into the space, what advice would you give to them

947
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're not being preyed upon on?

948
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: So prey upon on all motherfucker's so scientists too. It's

949
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: funny because I posted the other day someone had asked

950
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: my question about I always joke about being solo Polly

951
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: or single Polly, and um, someone asked, can you tell

952
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: us what single poll is? So I am single, but

953
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: I live a Polly life style. So I'm just right

954
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: now I'm not seeing anyone because people are looking crazy.

955
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: They are not only that, it's I seem to attract

956
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: crazy vanilla folk and the kinky folk I timidate, which

957
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: is odd. So wow, my resting bitch face scares people.

958
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: Do you think, like, do you look for single people?

959
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: Do you like taking couples? Do you I am mixed,

960
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: so it depends on the interaction. I don't date sneaky people.

961
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is if you are

962
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: in a Polly relationship and your partner doesn't know that

963
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: you're talking with me or engaging with me at all,

964
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: I will gladly go into your d ms and into

965
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: their d m s. And my, hey, that's so funny

966
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: he said that, because that's our homes for I wanted

967
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: big for transparencies like talk communication. Let's sidebar this really quick.

968
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: Manby and I have said on this podcast, which we

969
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: very very rarely agree. We don't agree on it, but

970
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: we have both said we thought it wasn't right when

971
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: women will go and tell another woman's no, don't say that.

972
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: We're going to get into that. For the home it's

973
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: actually want to know do you? What makes you do it?

974
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: It's in our home mail. Don't ask you? God damn anyway,

975
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: because before we get to that conversation question no, no, no,

976
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: because you'll get the answer, because we're gonna get into

977
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: that conversation at the end, but before we do. If

978
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: you guys are watching on YouTube, you guys see colors

979
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: sitting here and again, which I did my research. You're

980
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna let me teach the folks. God damn. I like

981
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: the educational moments. So I found out something this is

982
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: what bitch whoa. I'm going to get you a T

983
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: shirt that's controlled freak. I literally like to make sure

984
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: like we're talking about someone in a space like that.

985
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about, so I was able to

986
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: do a lot of research on this, and there's actually

987
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: colors of leather and fetish. It's called the hanky code.

988
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: The hanky code is a color coded system employed in

989
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: the gay leather ad fetish community to indicate preferred sexual

990
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: fetishes and rolls. And I thought this was very interesting,

991
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: especially if you do decide to maybe go into a

992
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 1: gay leather bar or just a leather bar as a woman,

993
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: um to know kind of what these um colors mean.

994
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: The history of the hanky code is that the wearing

995
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: of various colored bandanas around the neck was common in

996
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: the mid and late night teenth century among cowboys, team

997
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: railroad engineers, and miners. Is thought that wearing the bandannas

998
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: by gay men originated in San Francisco after the Gold Rush, when,

999
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: because of a shortage of women, men dancing with each

1000
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: other and square dances developed a code. We're in the

1001
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: man wearing the blue bandana took the male part in

1002
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: the square dance, and the man wearing the red bandanna

1003
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: it's a female part um. So there's also, of course

1004
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: we know if you wear it out the left side,

1005
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: that's the crypt side. I know that from from Snoop Dog.

1006
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: But the top side okay, So let's all right in

1007
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: this community, A relevant a relevant element of the Hankey

1008
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: code is the location of where you put this. So

1009
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: wearing a color on the right side indicates that you

1010
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: are a bottom, while wearing the color on the left

1011
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: side indicates god damn hell up. So there's also it's

1012
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot, so so left means top,

1013
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: right means bottom. But if you wear the hanky around

1014
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: your neck like it, I mean there was only one

1015
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: of the So we're gonna get into the colors, guys,

1016
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: and I'm actually I want weezy to guess some of these.

1017
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: The first one is really easy and you don't have

1018
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: the colors, so we're we're gonna say the first one

1019
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: and guess what it means. What do you think a

1020
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: yellow bandana means bottom? No, bitch, God damn it, that's

1021
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: the blot side of right side. What it's what sexual kink?

1022
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: Do you think yellow? And guess bitch? Okay, So if

1023
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: you wear a yellow bandanna means you like piss play? Um,

1024
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: you have what color here? And what does that stand for?

1025
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: Black means heavy M Yes, so you're says b D

1026
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: S M and I flag left you flag left on

1027
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: b DSM, which means you flag top. You flag top Um,

1028
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: the next color you have is red. Can you guess

1029
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: what red means? No, bit, it doesn't mean. It doesn't

1030
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: mean what you think it means. Bit, No, bitch, it

1031
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: doesn't mean blood, but close close because it can like

1032
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: love it, man, it could cause blood. Bitch should get

1033
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: taken too much, you know. Okay? Anyways, so the red

1034
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: means that you are into fisting. You fisted, Oh my god,

1035
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: it was oh fingers damn, that's Kristen fist fisted a bit.

1036
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: So the next color, oh, okay, so that's left for

1037
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: me as well. So we have light blue and your

1038
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: fist blue. You fist, I got a little baby hands.

1039
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: Look at she fisting. But look, bitch, she got nails.

1040
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: You're fissing with nails. See I like it assisted both

1041
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: anal and vaginal with nails. Queen, bitch, let me see

1042
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: something true? Are you telling me right now? Yeah? We

1043
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: fingering budda holes and fist. But John, see your fist.

1044
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she has small hands that you do. So

1045
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: the next um. Colors in the hanky code are light

1046
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: blue and dark blue, which means two different things. So

1047
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: light blue means so actually these are similar variations. But

1048
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: if you are going by male um gay mail. One

1049
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: is um anal and one is fucker fucking Yes, there's fun.

1050
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 1: There's also jobs, they say for light. So light blue

1051
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: is like the baby light, Oh like a baby like okay,

1052
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: so these means fuck fucking fucker is that? Yeah? So

1053
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: both and then we got two more colors. So we

1054
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: got pink. I'm ready to see what you go to

1055
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: the right arm. Oh wait, you have two colors of pink. Okay,

1056
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: so what do the two colors ill? Girls? Rich cream pies,

1057
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: no proceed eating, no lesbians. So light pink means you all.

1058
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: You were got damn all. So she was a it's rush.

1059
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: She was just she was just throwing at every she thought.

1060
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: She's a little poor categories. So this I am actually switched. Okay,

1061
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: So your switch when it comes to dildo. So that

1062
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: means you'll wear the strap or take the strap, yes, okay?

1063
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: And then what is this color nipple torture? Is that

1064
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: what Joe um nipple sick fuck whatever, Nickele sick nile

1065
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: nipple nile. That is a goddamn song, twister, you know

1066
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: how that came out right stick simp niple fucking Anthony

1067
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: and I went out and I told him the whole

1068
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: story and he says nothing the whole time, right, and

1069
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: he wouldn't make me stop, and he goes, that's sick

1070
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: nipple fuck and that became a god damn nickname. And

1071
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: we have one more color. What does gray mean? Gray

1072
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: is bondage? Yes, so I am a rope bottom. You

1073
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: are a rope bottom. That is the only time I bottom.

1074
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: I like that. So we had Sir Dash in here,

1075
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: and he has his muses that he enjoys um tying up,

1076
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: but they do enjoy the act of being bonded as well.

1077
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: So I really like that. And because we these so

1078
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: had to have this conversation with you. Since you're now,

1079
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you mentioned that you have clients,

1080
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: what do you do well in my vanilla life, which

1081
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: is very boring. I am a clinical social worker, yes, corporate,

1082
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: let's get it in your social worker. Yeah, so that's

1083
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: what I do my nine and five job. Because when

1084
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: you said my clients, and in my leather life and

1085
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: my kink life, I am a prodom and educator, presenter, model,

1086
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: so I do all of those. But yeah, I have

1087
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: to um that I've had for the past what to

1088
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: three years now, corporate clients that pay all my ship.

1089
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: How do they find you? Um? Actually one of them

1090
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: found me at a sex event. The other one found

1091
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: me on Seeking Arrangements. Think that site works much anymore? Yeah,

1092
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: it's it. So I have um one that I call

1093
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: Mr World Street and the other one I call Mr

1094
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: Finance because one is an attorney over here down the

1095
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: block and the other one works in finance. No, they're great. Um.

1096
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: I graduated with another master's in May. Um say that

1097
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: master because my my original was in forensic science and

1098
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: I was working in social work for the past fifteen years.

1099
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: And in order to go beyond that, you need your license.

1100
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: So I was like, let me go back and do

1101
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: it because my ultimate goal was to open up my

1102
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: own practice, but specializing in b D, S, M and

1103
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: kink for people of color who dealt with any type

1104
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: of sexual trauma. I love that. And that was a

1105
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: PC that I didn't even I didn't even know, So

1106
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: that's that's dope. And again, like we love being able

1107
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: to bring people on that are in this space, but

1108
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: that do not only solely live in this space. Like

1109
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: you can be corporate and go to sex clubs on

1110
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: the weekend. You can be maybe in a more submissive

1111
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: role at your job and then be a complete down

1112
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: when you go home. So I love that, Like, you're educated,

1113
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: you're going and you're wanting to actually also combine the two,

1114
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: so your education with making people in the space fel comfortable.

1115
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: So I really like that. That's really dope right now.

1116
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: I am. I just took on a role UM with

1117
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom UM and they are

1118
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: basically volunteer base which across the country UM educating and

1119
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: UM pushing awareness for b d S, M and kink.

1120
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: But the great thing about it it's volunteer base, but

1121
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: you have attorneys, you have accountants, it's all of the

1122
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: because and I don't want it to sound condescending because

1123
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: obviously we have the show for a reason, be like,

1124
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: why do we need a coalition, Why do people need

1125
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: to be why do we need awareness of king? So

1126
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: the coalition is for a lot of things UM. You

1127
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: will see them at different events throughout the city, UM

1128
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: throughout the country. You can go to like UM. One

1129
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: of the events that I go to is UM a

1130
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: unity thing and it's for lgbt q I A plus

1131
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: people of color and it's a networking thing. You'll see

1132
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: them they're tabling because you have different avenues of kink

1133
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: and people in those spaces, but they don't often talk

1134
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: about it, you know, and fear of talking about it.

1135
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: It's also to keep the community safe because you have

1136
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: a lot of consent violators and when you're in kink

1137
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: and b D s M, everything is your fault if

1138
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: you go to the cops. So it's a big thing.

1139
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: So it's a place where you can go and report

1140
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,959
Speaker 1: things like consent violations, consent rate and all of those things,

1141
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: and it will be documented. So if you ever wanted

1142
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: to know that if someone was a consent violator, you

1143
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: can reach out to them and they will let you know.

1144
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: They won't say who made the report, but they would say, yes,

1145
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: we've had so and so many reports about this person

1146
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: or so many reports about this event space, you know.

1147
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: So it's about keeping the community safe. I really like that,

1148
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, because um, right now, what we do in

1149
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: the community is as far as being proactive about talking

1150
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: about consent violations is things usually spill over on both

1151
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: social media and that's when you hear about it, but

1152
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: of course no one ever gets facts. So the first

1153
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: thing everyone does is pull out the pitchforks and you

1154
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: know it's on a rant, but just reminded me of

1155
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: did you guys see the Kiki Wendy Williams thing? Wow,

1156
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: Wendy is shitty. Yeah, but I love how Kekey Palmer

1157
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: likes it. Didn't even like hit me until like I

1158
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: saw it the first time, but then watching it again,

1159
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: just maybe being more well versed in consent because that

1160
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: happened two years ago. He was like, why did I

1161
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: was like, what the fun? Yeah? The victim will always

1162
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: be blamed. He was like, well I did. Can I

1163
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: have a fucking minute? Actually, when you're in like an

1164
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: area where there are people who are prominent within the

1165
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: community or producers of events, no matter what you say,

1166
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: even if you have valid proof of like the abuse, consent, violation, pictures, photos,

1167
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: all of those things, their little lynch mob it's like

1168
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: the Trump Fest and you'll go and attack you with

1169
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: with those things and you're lying and you know that

1170
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: whole gas lighting thing, and it sucks and you become

1171
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: the outcast. Time well, speaking of all this ship and

1172
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: what we was trying to get to you to talk

1173
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: about earlier, because he didn't came in, you didn't even

1174
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: know he was gonna talk about this. So the homemaale

1175
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: protect it's homemale snitching on a married woman. Yeo, I

1176
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: foss with you too. So I met this girl somehow.

1177
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: It's the niggas. I'm really like a little nick. So

1178
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: I met this girl some so she h him you

1179
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: hit me up. A couple of months later and we

1180
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: hooked up. She lives in a different state, so I

1181
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: thought it would just be just when I'm in town thing.

1182
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: Early nineteen. We started talking all the time, and I

1183
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: pounded her a few more times and introduced her to

1184
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot of kinky ship bondage, dom foot fetish. Then

1185
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: she tells me she's married but they've been doing their

1186
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: own thing for years, and was saying she wants to

1187
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: leave him for me. They have two kids that I

1188
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: met inbound with and I was working with her heavy,

1189
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, leave him. Long story short.

1190
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: When it came time to make it happen late nineteen,

1191
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: she kept making excuses. Then we fell out. She keeps

1192
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: saying I love you so much, I'm just scared to

1193
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: make the change, blah blah. I feel away because I

1194
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: was fine with being a side ting, but she kept

1195
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: pushing put puting I feel away anyway, she kept pushing

1196
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: for a relationship between us. So here's my question. Would

1197
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: it be wrong of me to out her to her

1198
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: husband like I wanted to send him screenshots and videos

1199
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: of us sucking at their apartment. Yes, I flew to

1200
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: her city. I didn't want to start the pot until

1201
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of podcasts saying that never women

1202
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: never get caught cheating. L O L help her brother out. PS.

1203
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine sheets thirty and I'm coming to the

1204
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: Detroit show. See y'all there you go. Oh, we got

1205
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: to gotta bring him one that gotta be the home

1206
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: and we gotta do a live or not. He's gonna

1207
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: be the case to fucking Mary bitches. We're gonna bring

1208
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: you on anyway. Um oh wait, or maybe we did

1209
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: already because god damn this is after god damn Detroit Show.

1210
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna email him back. Um so, so, motherfucker

1211
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: you you are okay without it, and you don't have

1212
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: to He said videos that he said video sending videos

1213
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: and fucking that's a little much. But you said, if

1214
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: someone is coming to you and you see that they're

1215
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: in a relationship, you don't mind going to the person

1216
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: they're in a relationship with and saying you're person, your spouse,

1217
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: your girlfriend, your boyfriend is trying to talk to me. Yeah,

1218
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: and that that that was the whole ship show that right,

1219
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,479
Speaker 1: So that's a whole different thing. You know that you're

1220
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: the side thing umgory and you came into that dynamic. Yeah,

1221
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's not he it's coming out

1222
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: of place of malice. I'm saying it as if I

1223
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: know that there is a guy hitting me up on

1224
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: Instagram and he has a partner and they're both Polly.

1225
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: Whatever the case, maybe they're both Polly. Yes, even okay,

1226
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: I will messenge her. Hey, isn't it okay? So and

1227
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: so I was talking to me because I never want

1228
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: to look like some sneaky ass person. What if you

1229
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: don't if you know they're not what if you know

1230
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: they're not Polly? Oh no, same thing. Oh, same thing.

1231
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: So it's weird though, because so again I'm with you.

1232
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: I've had people follow me on I g like because

1233
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: their man was following me and nothing. You know, I've

1234
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: barely engaged with most people on the internet, Like I'll

1235
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: engage with people that I know or things like that

1236
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: we actually have mutual friends. When you said actually, I

1237
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: was like, yay, she brought her on. She was a

1238
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: guest on our show. I do want to make sure

1239
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: we're all in agreeance though, because it seems vengeful. We

1240
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: all agree that he no, no, I agree no, right,

1241
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: because it's coming from and she was like videos and

1242
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: not a place of informing. But more so, now you're

1243
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: hurt because she decided not to leave her partner for you.

1244
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: Is where I see that it's coming from, and that's

1245
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: out of malice. I'm not doing anything like that. I'm

1246
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: saying if you're saying that, because I'll ask straight out

1247
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: whether it's male, female, whoever? Does your partner know we're

1248
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: having this discussion. And if you say yeah, I'm going

1249
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: to go introduce myself. And you've been in this type

1250
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: of yeah, I've never really been with a guy that

1251
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: has a girl. But I went on a date with

1252
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: someone who was married, um in an open relationship. They

1253
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: were both on the same site. I matched him. Oh

1254
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: remember I was telling you he was on a Netflix

1255
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: show and I recognized him from there and I wrote

1256
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: him and he was like, hey, like literally second message,

1257
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: just let you know I saw pictures of the girl,

1258
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Speaker 1: but I was like, maybe it's not. He was like,

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01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: we're totally open. Blah blah blah blah. Did you feel

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: the needs to A year before I went on a day,

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: I didn't feel the need to write hurt. But also

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of his the date, she called twice

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: and he's like, so sorry, Like I wouldn't have answered,

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: but she called me twice, so he walked out. I

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01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: guess she got locked out of the house or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And when he talked about how much he loved her

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01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: and like how much he cared about her, that let

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: me know this isn't for me, but I want this

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: for myself. Like I can't be on the receiving end,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I think I would

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: get too many feelings of either jealousy or not. Like

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01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe I'm even normal and polly to

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: be jealous. You know. People say, oh, you can't be jealous.

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01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: It's human behavin about communication, you know, and how you're

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: reacting to that jealousy. And I know that because I've

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: been on I was dude once, I was dude, and

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Speaker 1: I was dude. I have video choose let me, not

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: even front, but I never sent it, you know, but

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01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: in a moment of anger and insecurity that I was like,

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I should be that bit because he's

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01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna feel like but also because I knew that that person,

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01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: unlike in his situation make an excuse. I knew the

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: person was lying about it. And then what you were

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: saying about jealousy to me, I think it's important, yes,

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: to understand, we get we feel that feeling of jealousy,

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01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: but to know what would make you jealous, which is

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: why when I talk about either an open relationship or

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01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: however the case may be, I've said multiple times I

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: don't care what you fucking someone else, that wouldn't make

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: me jealous. But the emotion of you taking someone on

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01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: a date, And we talked about this when you're dating

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01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: lover boy and letting him go on dates, to me,

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh girl, I could never because to me,

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 1: you intimately learning somebody or spending time with them outside

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01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: of sex, to me, would make me more jealous than

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01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: you just sucking a bit. So it's also knowing what

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01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: triggers that jealousy, like if it's kissing in a threesome

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01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: like lay Lay those things out because yeah, again we

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01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: can't control it or jealous of but I think we

1300
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: know what triggers us being jealous. So even just being

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: open with that, communicating that with your partner, if you

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: do decide to be Polly. So okay, I'm glad we're

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01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: all on the same page with this. I wanted to

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01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: before we get out of do it. You just don't

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01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: do it. It's out of malice, it's out of like

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01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: just you feeling use abused and you being hurt. I

1307
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: would never say here's your fault and never to mentioned

1308
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: like you went in that apartment knowing like that's kind

1309
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: of girls, her kids, You really dedry, you know, I

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01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: do wanna before we get out of here, where can

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Speaker 1: our listeners um, new listeners, old listeners, um wor hive?

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: Where can they find you? We are going to put

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Speaker 1: all of this in the description of the episode as well,

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01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: but where can our listeners find you? You can find

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Speaker 1: me on I g um at Inc, Underscore Stained, Underscore Skin,

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Speaker 1: same on fat Life. I'm not on Twitter since Trump

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Speaker 1: blocked me, so there was no leave for me to

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01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: have an account anymore. A lot of president they got

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 1: blocked by his I mean we don't. He's not our president.

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Speaker 1: But at roll time, so much. Please. Half of the

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Speaker 1: housewives blocked my ass too. I was strolling everybody. I'm

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: only blocked by Jackie. Um, Jackie, Jackie, I don't know.

1323
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: I wanted her to come on, but then I saw

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Speaker 1: was blocked. Wet. I don't know. I was watching the

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01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: show probably talk about it. Yeah, that's what I was

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: doing obviously, you know, so I got blocked. But okay,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're gonna put that in the description.

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01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: And do you have any any websites that maybe um

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: they can reach out to you or can they just

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01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: d M you if they have question DM me and um, yeah,

1331
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: hit me up. If you have any questions, if you

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Speaker 1: want to know about anything prodom related, if you want

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01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: to know anything about kink and leather and being black

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Speaker 1: and getting into the community and events, hit me up.

1335
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go. So can you have a nice

1336
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: long email like we had a few weeks back. Yeah,

1337
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was ridiculous. I'm gonna say, just

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01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: started intro black paragraph the body and my husband and

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: I we really why don't have a husband? But yeah,

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: that was that. I'm just like, that was im Yeah. Anyways, guys,

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: before we head out of here again, we're looking forward

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01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: to seeing all of you guys on tour again. Also

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Speaker 1: at Moca Fees. We want everybody, um to to just

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Speaker 1: come and find a partner, Come and find a friend.

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Speaker 1: Um our our audio is almost like being in this

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Speaker 1: community or being at a sex club where you get

1348
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: to meet like minded people. So bring that as come. Also,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna leave you guys off with a five minute

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Speaker 1: you come on the show like um, and I think

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Speaker 1: maybe our our audience was really like wanting you to

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Speaker 1: come on too. So I'm excited that you can come

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Speaker 1: on teach me things that I didn't know what. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have a whole audience. Um. Also, are you said

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Speaker 1: another episode of Horror Decisions. Fight guys, buncle up, get

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Speaker 1: your little popcorn, your glass of the wine. It is

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Speaker 1: a motherfucking story. So she writes, I get this at am,

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01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: so they was up late. Argument. I didn't catch it

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Speaker 1: till the next day because they was fighting visually. I

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: will so I get a d M. It says, listen, Mandy,

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: we never met one on one, but you need to

1375
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: fall back before we have problems. That is how this

1376
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: all that. I write it, and I just smirked hold on.

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01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: I smirked hold on because I don't hold on. So

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01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: let me go back. Look, I haven't in order. That's

1379
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: why you can't read it, because I have to go.

1380
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: I have three D screenshots in order. Look Zilla getting

1381
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: a chair. So my my initial response, my initial response

1382
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: to her was a screenshot of our conversation that day.

1383
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: He hit me up that day and said, you miss me.

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: I responded, I don't though, scram He said, l O

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01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: L you're such a bit. I said, dealing with you.

1386
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: I said, I'm over you. You happy with you? Woman?

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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: You got it? Leave me be. His response, Damn, we

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: can't be friends. We ain't shipping no more. Huh. This

1389
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: is what your nigga is writing me. So I literally

1390
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: like the most perfect response. So I send her the

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: screenshot and I said, you know the man you're with,

1392
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: whatever problems you have should be with him, not with me.

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01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: And I sent her the screenshot of her nigga saying, damn,

1394
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: we can't be friends. We ain't shipping no mo. Huh Right,

1395
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: So this is what she gets. Her response, hold on,

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,520
Speaker 1: I had to send my insights to my polosist. Her response,

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01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: boom oh, okay, okay, read read the top part so

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: you got okay, co read it because there's parts in

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: there that are laughable, So please read it slow and

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01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: with a tone. This is the paragraph. This is her

1401
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: response after I send the screenshot of her man saying

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: we ain't we can't be We ain't shouldn't no more.

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01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: Here's her response. Read it Read it so her response

1404
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: to the screenshot of her nigga to me, Well, you

1405
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: know he has someone, so why keep being a home record.

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01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: But it's all good though. I dealt with him and

1407
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 1: you won't be able to reach him anymore because he

1408
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: changed his number. He ain't the best I know, but

1409
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: things have gotten better. Then I see y'all's messages. Why

1410
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: do I care? Right, it's like, why you entertaining other people?

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: Men that ship don't get old. Also, I have a

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01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: problem with everyone in the situation, especially when you know

1413
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: about me and last year you bluntly disrespected me by

1414
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: posting him regardless of what he tells you. You know

1415
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: what's up? Oh no, no, because now don't pull up

1416
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: her page yet because you're gonna be like, oh, y'all

1417
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: look like cousin. She got a big gas. All my

1418
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: niggas have types. I look very close to all my

1419
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: niggas bitches. Um. I don't know what she is. She's

1420
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: oldest that so listen hold on, guys. So that's what

1421
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: she writes to me. This is my response to her.

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm not wrecking any home. He was single then at

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: least that's what he is saying when he gets in

1424
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: my phone. I know of you being around the same

1425
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: way I've been around for the last nine years. I

1426
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: don't know to what capacity your relationship is with him

1427
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: when you're on or when you're off. If he's in

1428
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: my phone, I don't assume you're in the picture. So

1429
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm entertaining a grown single man at those times, la

1430
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: mao at regardless of what he tells me. So this

1431
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: is something you need to take up with him. And

1432
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: I said, her name, not me. Get a ring that

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01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: would be more telling of where y'all stand. Stop. This

1434
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: is what I wrote her was shady. I was being respectful.

1435
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 1: I said, get a ring that would be more telling

1436
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: of where y'all stand. Unless the next time he hits

1437
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: my phone telling me he's single, you would like for

1438
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: me to check in with you first. Her response after that,

1439
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: mind you, this is the funny thing. She's already told

1440
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: me he's changed his number. He won't be contacting you

1441
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: no more. Next thing, you know, hold on? Oh oh wait.

1442
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: So I asked her this, her response, this is before

1443
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: we get her response after that, she says, we've been

1444
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: leaving together for seven years. I want to make sure

1445
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 1: I bring in her misspelling. We've been leaving together for

1446
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: seven years. I'm not just around. His kids live with us.

1447
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: He left a year and went to another state. That's

1448
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: the only time I wasn't around. But it's all good.

1449
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: He won't talk to you anymore. I guarantee that. I

1450
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: double tapped her message and said, I said, please guarantee it.

1451
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tell him we are done. He

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01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: won't leave me alone. H sound this girl