Speaker 1: Are you leaving?
Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 3: Either way, we.
Speaker 2: Want to be there.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
Speaker 4: time and a terminol ingage.
Speaker 3: We want to send you off in style.
Speaker 4: We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about.
Speaker 3: Every scared her? Was it fine? Malcorn? Do you need
Speaker 3: to ride? Do you need to ride? Do you need
Speaker 3: to ride? Do your need to ride?
Speaker 2: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: This is Chris.
Speaker 3: Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgarriff.
Speaker 2: I had some trouble with the saying of our party.
Speaker 2: I had to retell it, which why even re record
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna tell on myself?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is the behind the scenes
Speaker 4: stuff that people really This is what gets people about us.
Speaker 2: People love when you say a thing and then immediately
Speaker 2: dissect it.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially on a podcast where people are just trying
Speaker 4: to escape the bullshit of their own life.
Speaker 3: We're like, no, no, no, we have tons of bullshit
Speaker 3: on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually, I do think dealing with other people's
Speaker 2: bullshit is a relief from your bullshit, Even if it's
Speaker 2: very similar bullshit, because especially if.
Speaker 4: It's similar to bullshit, do you mind if I mispronounced
Speaker 4: the words similar.
Speaker 2: I have a tendency I rub off on.
Speaker 4: People catching it from you. I think other people's bullshit.
Speaker 4: The more similar it is, the better you feel. Because
Speaker 4: you don't, you can be in total denial about how
Speaker 4: similar it is, and they'd be like, oh, let me
Speaker 4: help you with this terrible problem you seem to have alone,
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, yeah, it's everybody's problem.
Speaker 2: No, exactly. That's what I try and do with so
Speaker 2: many conversations. But then you read about what you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to do in a conversation, and that is listen
Speaker 2: to someone's problem and then try and relate it to
Speaker 2: one of your problems. You're just supposed to listen to
Speaker 2: someone's problem. I've been trying to work on that.
Speaker 4: It's hard because also you still are in I was
Speaker 4: just talking to somebody about this because I was saying
Speaker 4: I read that, and I read it that they said
Speaker 4: it's a sign of being on the spectrum. Maybe that
Speaker 4: people on the spectrum want you to understand that they
Speaker 4: understand what you're saying by saying, here's how it happened
Speaker 4: to me, right, And then people who are on a
Speaker 4: different sort of type of brain style, they're like, how
Speaker 4: dare you change the subject off of me?
Speaker 2: Exactly? And it's usually when you're talking to someone that
Speaker 2: isn't a comedian. I think a lot of the comics
Speaker 2: we know are in the spectrum hell yeah, because that's
Speaker 2: how you, you know, go from one joke and segue
Speaker 2: and think on your feet. It's because you can't sit
Speaker 2: in a moment yes like a normal person.
Speaker 3: You truly don't want to.
Speaker 4: And then especially if that moment's not about you, What
Speaker 4: the hell are you even doing here?
Speaker 3: Is my thinking.
Speaker 2: Exactly, because when you're doing stand up you learn right
Speaker 2: away it has to be about you, yes, which I
Speaker 2: always had trouble with who am I? I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: tell stories about me. I will steal interesting stories from
Speaker 2: my friends and say it's me, yes, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: still pretending it's me.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite bits in my first like ten
Speaker 4: minutes of comedy, was a thing I saw my friend
Speaker 4: Alicia do one time, and it was so funny when
Speaker 4: she did it that I was like, oh, that's mine. Now,
Speaker 4: didn't discuss it with her. I was just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's so funny. I'll do it like I'm representing funny
Speaker 4: ideas from this part of the state.
Speaker 3: Right, was kind of my interview.
Speaker 2: As a representative of just everyone that's been in my life.
Speaker 2: I'm going to adopt this. And I've done it so
Speaker 2: many times on this podcast. So many stories I've left
Speaker 2: out that it was a friend of a friend. I
Speaker 2: just say it's me, because you know what, it will
Speaker 2: make a story boring credit. Yeah, giving a bibliography as
Speaker 2: you tell.
Speaker 4: It, but just the big bibliography is one listing and
Speaker 4: it would be easy to say yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's not doesn't a You gotta get to the
Speaker 2: story that's true. You can't cite your sources.
Speaker 4: You can also do a thing where you act like
Speaker 4: it's your story, let everybody experience it's that, and then afterwards, ago,
Speaker 4: that actually happened to my friend Dan. Right.
Speaker 2: Then that's like a fun way to end a story.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll start doing that.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a funny way going. Here's me lying again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told I talked to my sister on the
Speaker 2: phone last night and she reminded me of how many
Speaker 2: stories because she is a listener of our podcast. I'm
Speaker 2: told that they are not me. It was a cousin
Speaker 2: or my friend ross or and I don't I do
Speaker 2: it so effortlessly because I got to trim the fat.
Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, you have to trim that credit fat. Yep,
Speaker 4: that makes me so grateful. My sister is not interested
Speaker 4: in anything I do or say, and it doesn't listen
Speaker 4: to any of these podcasts because.
Speaker 3: She would be She would truly call up and be like,
Speaker 3: that was an outright lie because I do stuff like that.
Speaker 4: We're like, and I don't think I do it that often,
Speaker 4: but when I do it, it's very bewildering. Or I'm like,
Speaker 4: I just kind of jug the end of that in
Speaker 4: a way that's factually untrue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what we learned to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If every story had all the elements of entertainment, our
Speaker 2: jobs would be everyone would be a comedian. We wouldn't
Speaker 2: need comedians. You need someone to edit a story to
Speaker 2: make it good. That's called a joke. Yes, I'm simplifying everything.
Speaker 4: It's about efficiency at the end of the day, right,
Speaker 4: that's all we care about. It's not about us people
Speaker 4: loving us. It's not that right. We just want people
Speaker 4: to use their time correctly. Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2: We had. Oftentimes people call me that our friends and
Speaker 2: family in other cities, and they're like, oh, you had
Speaker 2: a big earthquake, Like the news will blow things out
Speaker 2: of proportion, and I've gotten eerily used to just my
Speaker 2: house shaking. But the one the other day it felt
Speaker 2: like the initial bank. It was a loud bang. I
Speaker 2: thought a car somehow drove up to my little place
Speaker 2: on a hill and ran into the wall. It felt
Speaker 2: like a car hitting the wall. And I immediately got
Speaker 2: up and looked at my eighty five pound redwood burrel
Speaker 2: clock that my dad made, and it was leaning forward
Speaker 2: and I just grabbed it. It would have totally injured me,
Speaker 2: but so I kind of reacted in a way. And
Speaker 2: then I went outside and I could hear I'd never
Speaker 2: been outside for during what I knew was an earthquake,
Speaker 2: and usually you don't feel them outside, but I could
Speaker 2: hear slabs of cement grinding together. Really, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a big one, and I or maybe it wasn't a
Speaker 2: big one richter scale wise, but it went right through
Speaker 2: downtown Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Well, I do believe it was a long one, that
Speaker 4: this is what somebody else told me I think it
Speaker 4: was Georgia when we were talking about it on the
Speaker 4: other podcast, My Favorite Murder?
Speaker 3: Have you ever listen that?
Speaker 2: I of course I've heard of it.
Speaker 4: We were talking about this because she said, did you
Speaker 4: feel the earthquake? And I said no, I was at
Speaker 4: the dentist, And then we couldn't stop laughing because that
Speaker 4: it made perfect sense to me as I said it
Speaker 4: to her, but she was like, what the fuck are
Speaker 4: you talking about? And I was like, yep, you're right
Speaker 4: on this one. But I just didn't feel anything. And
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was just because the spot
Speaker 4: I was in, you know, doesn't have those there, or what, right,
Speaker 4: but I felt truly nothing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was near that fault line, which
Speaker 2: apparently is more dangerous than the San Andreas one.
Speaker 3: The Los Angeles fault line.
Speaker 2: It is called something, and I do not remember what
Speaker 2: it is called. It's it's got a serious let's call
Speaker 2: it the Los Angeles fault line. Okay, Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: my idea, right, Okay, but let's agree that your idea
Speaker 2: is the best one and we're going to adopt.
Speaker 3: It, okay.
Speaker 4: And then when we do adopt my ideas, I think
Speaker 4: it's really important that you say that was the best idea,
Speaker 4: real loud, that.
Speaker 2: Was a really good idea. We should call the news
Speaker 2: and tell them to change the name of whatever it
Speaker 2: is right now perfect.
Speaker 5: I do have the name if you'd like it.
Speaker 3: It's just the Los Angeles one. I mean, we can't anymore.
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Twente Hill's fault I.
Speaker 2: Kind of like lifeless Handel's fault line or twenty Hills.
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty it would ruin the magic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Twente Hills sounds pretentious.
Speaker 4: It also reminds me of Dorothea Puente, who is the
Speaker 4: old lady in Sacramento who killed all of the people
Speaker 4: in her boarding house and buried them in the backyard.
Speaker 2: I mean, but was it her fault? No? Get that
Speaker 2: was an old joke.
Speaker 3: Oh, her fault line?
Speaker 2: Yeah, got it. We can edit, we and we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah we will. Yeah, we'll take that one out. I'd
Speaker 2: like it stricken from the record. We have a bailiff
Speaker 2: in the backseat that takes jokes and strikes them from
Speaker 2: the guy, so you only get the good stuff.
Speaker 4: And he's he's his name is Rusty. He's tired. He's
Speaker 4: been doing it a long time. Wasn't that the guy
Speaker 4: on the People's Court Rusty Uh.
Speaker 2: In the Doug Luellen days, douglu Allen was the interviewer. Yep,
Speaker 2: how do you feel about losing? Not good? Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was half the show. I loved it as a kid.
Speaker 2: And Rusty. Yeah it was Wapner's bailiff or some name.
Speaker 4: Maybe some name that was a little bit nickname me
Speaker 4: country vibes.
Speaker 2: Bull? Are you thinking of Bull from Night Court? Let's
Speaker 2: talk about all the TV bailiffs. Let's see who's judge duties.
Speaker 2: That guy he's a firecracker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tells it like it is. He's one of
Speaker 2: my favorite bailiffs.
Speaker 3: His name's Rusty.
Speaker 2: He's Rusty. Also, you have no choice when your name's Rusty.
Speaker 2: You're either a bailiff or a truck driver.
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, or the tin man.
Speaker 2: Yes. Have I watched the documentary about how the set
Speaker 2: of The Wizard of Oz was cursed? Why?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 2: I have?
Speaker 3: Oh did you see the thing?
Speaker 4: It looks like someone swinging from a tree in the background,
Speaker 4: and the rumor was that someone killed themselves, but the
Speaker 4: truth of it was it was just a bird walking through.
Speaker 2: Well, it was something hanging, and they let you think
Speaker 2: maybe it was, but it was not a munchkin actor.
Speaker 2: The munchkins were what they were called in the TV show.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's a slight. It's from a TV show.
Speaker 2: They put a bird in there to cover the shadow.
Speaker 2: They superposed a beautiful bird to cover that shadow. Oh
Speaker 2: and one of the people in the documentary is Neil Hamburger.
Speaker 2: What's his real names? Greg, Greg Turkenton.
Speaker 3: I believe, okay, he.
Speaker 2: Is like a video buff and he has a VHS
Speaker 2: of the very rare copy where they don't have the
Speaker 2: bird covering up. Oh what very much looks like a
Speaker 2: human form hanging, and so they kind of leave it open.
Speaker 2: But someone saying, ah, it's a sandbag that fell off
Speaker 2: a girder, but man, it looks like a person to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so it's it's very much. It hasn't been debunked
Speaker 2: like the you know, the cardboard cutout. We grew up
Speaker 2: fearing and free men and a baby, but so many
Speaker 2: things happened, and it did debunk the the model painted
Speaker 2: gold that I've always thought died because in the closing
Speaker 2: finger apparently that didn't happen. But the guy who played
Speaker 2: the tin man Rusty as you like to call him.
Speaker 2: He actually was very ill and it was because they
Speaker 2: were putting silver spray paint on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Was sickly his whole life. Oh yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of that in movie another Russian movie where people were
Speaker 2: like laying. They were doing a lot of shoots in
Speaker 2: this toxic water like Chernobyl water. Oh and and they
Speaker 2: all these actors had died that were acted in this
Speaker 2: film that is apparently Tarkowski or some filmmaker classic. It
Speaker 2: was really interesting. So watch that if you're looking for
Speaker 2: more TV to watch, uh, to then talk.
Speaker 4: About, because there there's another one where it was the
Speaker 4: there's a John Wayne movie that they filmed in the
Speaker 4: desert after they did the A bomb tests or then
Speaker 4: those nuclear tests.
Speaker 2: Oh you know, there's like that.
Speaker 4: Footage where the people's like lips are blown back and
Speaker 4: they have the goggles on right right, and they just
Speaker 4: they like went out there to intentionally watch the tests.
Speaker 2: Like New Mexico maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So they soon after went and filmed a western out there,
Speaker 4: and you know, John Wayne died of cancer. The the
Speaker 4: theory is that that a bunch of cast members from
Speaker 4: that movie got cancer, and the theory is because of that,
Speaker 4: because it was basically still radioactive and they didn't know.
Speaker 2: I mean there was so much back then. The little
Speaker 2: lifts that he put in his boots to make him
Speaker 2: six ' five, He had little wedges, Oh yeah, those
Speaker 2: could have been made of lead. So many things. You know,
Speaker 2: they used to give heroin to as cough syrup to children. Yes,
Speaker 2: baby's teething, how do you assuthe it? Cocaine and mental
Speaker 2: cigarettes And that's like the era that you know, our
Speaker 2: parents grew up in. So yeah, I'm happy we have
Speaker 2: our dads. It's my point.
Speaker 4: It's pretty nice. Yes, it's pretty It's things have definitely
Speaker 4: gotten better.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so, except now we're all just walking
Speaker 2: around with like a confetti bushel of microplastics in our skin,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 3: Making us mispronounce easy to pronounce.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, certainly. Uh did I say some petty wrong? Yeah?
Speaker 3: What is top?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I there's different things that we need to worry about,
Speaker 2: but at least it's not you know, actual carcinogens.
Speaker 4: I have another creepy one. I covered this on a
Speaker 4: very early episode of My Favorite Murder. The set of
Speaker 4: the Exorcist there's this Do you remember the part of
Speaker 4: the Exorcist where the mother takes Reagan to the hospital
Speaker 4: to get her looked at, and they like have her
Speaker 4: in an MRI machine and it's really scary and weird and.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, you want to remember maybe not.
Speaker 3: I it's great.
Speaker 2: This whole time I've been thinking of Poltergeist. I don't
Speaker 2: think I really ever watched the ex Oh you got it.
Speaker 3: It's so scary. It is such a good movie.
Speaker 4: It's like Rosemary's Baby where you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I feel like I want to start screaming, and it's
Speaker 4: purely just the filmmaking.
Speaker 3: It's not like cause a knife is coming at you
Speaker 3: right right.
Speaker 2: I did just watch that and it's very scary.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 4: And apparently Mia Farrow I just heard this on TikTok.
Speaker 4: Mia Farrow cut that hair that was not She did
Speaker 4: that as a fuck you to Frank Sinatra, who was
Speaker 4: her husband at the time. That haircut was not a
Speaker 4: plan and it turned into like the haircut of the era.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, but it was actually nobody wanted her
Speaker 4: to do it and that wasn't the plan, but she
Speaker 4: did it anyway.
Speaker 3: Like basically just almost shaved her head. It was such
Speaker 3: short hair.
Speaker 2: Wow. And then a new actress in Los Angeles saw
Speaker 2: that movie cut her hair. Bam. She was the mom
Speaker 2: on the Brady Bunch Boom, same hair.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Florence Henderson, but Lawrence, thank you.
Speaker 4: The scary thing I'm going to tell you about The
Speaker 4: Exorcist is when Reagan's in the hospital getting the MRI,
Speaker 4: there is a MRI like technician, an X ray tech
Speaker 4: that's in the room with her.
Speaker 3: He was a serial killer.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And they find out.
Speaker 2: Afterwards, Oh, that's so scary.
Speaker 3: Isn't that insane?
Speaker 4: He's just a creepy blonde guy that's standing there, and
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, that guy ends up killing a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Oh you you would love this show. And actually one
Speaker 2: of the episodes does mention Rosemary's baby a bunch the
Speaker 2: things that were wrong on that set.
Speaker 3: Oh. So it's like a TV show of creepy Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's each each episode focuses on a different movie.
Speaker 2: It was really good.
Speaker 3: And what channel did you say it was on?
Speaker 2: And all the music and it is made by ways
Speaker 2: Blood a band, Oh very much like I love her. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's mostly instrumental. So that's how I found out ways
Speaker 2: Blood wasn't just a person, It's an entire band.
Speaker 3: I thought that was her name.
Speaker 2: I know, I know me too. I mean, who does
Speaker 2: him on the last name blood?
Speaker 3: Ways? Where it was like ways Blood?
Speaker 4: She must be like a blue blood from Yeah, like
Speaker 4: the East Coast.
Speaker 2: Yes of the Charles Fredrick Blood.
Speaker 3: The band is named Way's Blood.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have to tell my friend Bradford that. I wonder
Speaker 3: if he knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there. I learned so much, and that is
Speaker 2: to never feel safe even on set.
Speaker 4: No, and certainly never feel safe having a casual conversation
Speaker 4: about bands.
Speaker 2: Oh no, someone will get very angry.
Speaker 3: Someone will be wronged. But sorry, what channel is that
Speaker 3: show on?
Speaker 2: I should know that, But it's one of the big.
Speaker 3: Three Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You can go to your TV and just search,
Speaker 2: you know, the same place you find apps and just
Speaker 2: type and it'll tell you all the different places you
Speaker 2: can watch.
Speaker 3: What's the name of the show, E It would be hard.
Speaker 2: I swear it exists.
Speaker 3: Cursed on a set.
Speaker 2: It is cursed. Cursed movies, I think cursed films, curse films.
Speaker 2: The word cursed type in cursed.
Speaker 3: See what happens, get back to us next week.
Speaker 2: And spell a wrong and accidentally watch a bunch of
Speaker 2: Kirsty Alley movies which we're coming up on near her
Speaker 2: old house by the way.
Speaker 3: How do you know?
Speaker 2: Oh, I golfed by it. I've noticed they've been working
Speaker 2: on it about seven years. It has eight air conditioning
Speaker 2: units on it. It has an alarm that scares away
Speaker 2: coyotes because she had rabbits and other animals. I believe
Speaker 2: lamas okay, it is? It is. It was pink like
Speaker 2: a Pueblo style with the clay shingles, and they've really
Speaker 2: modernized it. But I don't know. I haven't talked to
Speaker 2: whoever's in charge, but they've been working on it.
Speaker 3: Could you call them for years and years?
Speaker 2: I do have his phone number, I just can't remember
Speaker 2: his name.
Speaker 3: Is it waste blood?
Speaker 2: Every time I golf with Vincent CJ on the eighth hole,
Speaker 2: you always see the Christy Alley house and that's when
Speaker 2: CJ gives he's done a lot of research in whoever
Speaker 2: we're golfing with, he will give them a little tour
Speaker 2: of it. Oh and it's a fun little tradition.
Speaker 4: Got you that, so we really have CJ to think
Speaker 4: this is like what your sister was talking about.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's CJ's information.
Speaker 2: It was me until I finally added the bibliography of
Speaker 2: my story.
Speaker 3: C J.
Speaker 2: Sullivan. He's your go to. Everything I know about the
Speaker 2: Christy Alley House I learned from him.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get your T shirt that says that what
Speaker 4: Why does his name sound so familiar?
Speaker 3: Is he a comic?
Speaker 2: He is a comic and he uh is someone that
Speaker 2: I started golfing with and I like his temperament.
Speaker 6: And so you're gonna not shop and yes, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: just because the way he acts, I'm going to adopt
Speaker 6: a freeway nice and I yeah, I really have become
Speaker 6: really good friends with him, And.
Speaker 4: Vince, would you mind looking up a picture just to
Speaker 4: show it to me? Because it sounds so familiar that
Speaker 4: I'm like, do I actually know this person? And this
Speaker 4: is the day where my brain truly starts to crumble
Speaker 4: inside my skull.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I will, I will.
Speaker 3: Did you know him before you started golphing with him?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: And he is someone that helped me get sober, oh,
Speaker 2: just because I saw how it changed him as a person.
Speaker 2: For the better.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I don't know that he knows this, but there's
Speaker 2: a business named after him in Nottingham, England. C J.
Speaker 3: Sullivan's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a bad picture. He's making a grumpy face.
Speaker 2: There's CJ.
Speaker 3: I don't know CJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's great friend of the friend of my life,
Speaker 2: friend of my real life, soon to be friend of
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: Should he be on the show, of course he should. Okay.
Speaker 2: He does a podcast about sports, and I don't ever know.
Speaker 2: I mean he invents often talk about traditional stick and
Speaker 2: ball based sports and I never can chime in.
Speaker 6: That's when you start going, do the dude, Yeah, I
Speaker 6: start playing blowing dandee lions and catch and trying to
Speaker 6: chase butterflies, you know, because I was that kid.
Speaker 2: That's what I did in the outfield.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh, look at the somebody put a picture of someone's
Speaker 4: face on the light pole over there.
Speaker 3: Can you see that?
Speaker 2: Light poles are the milk curtains of the streets. But
Speaker 2: I feel like that, Yeah, that that looks promotional. It
Speaker 2: looks like.
Speaker 3: Mark Cohen kind of do you know Mark Conak It does.
Speaker 2: Look like Mark Cohen. Is that Mark Cohen.
Speaker 4: Who put their big face on that light. I'm saying
Speaker 4: light pole. What I mean is the traffic light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's lights on it. It's all. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what isn't on that poll traffic?
Speaker 3: Traffic. It's cleared it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, I think that was just there's a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, people have been posting bills.
Speaker 3: And is that bill? That is Bill?
Speaker 2: Bill Cohen. I don't think that Mark Cohen knows about
Speaker 2: his son Bill, but it's time to tell him. Mark
Speaker 2: Cohen is one of those comics that I got to
Speaker 2: know through our friend Henry Phillips, and he is off
Speaker 2: stage riffing, much like Todd Glass. Uh. You want to
Speaker 2: play along, but you can't keep up, and you just
Speaker 2: want to see where he goes on his own. Yes,
Speaker 2: and so I just giggle almost, Oh what the fuck
Speaker 2: that's I guess you could run into that. But it's
Speaker 2: a bag of jagged materials.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's someone's garbage in the lane.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Luckily I think it was cardboard at first, but.
Speaker 3: It could have been baby birds inside.
Speaker 2: The cardboard exactly recently hatched, still alive and it boxed up.
Speaker 2: There are there? You know you mentioned animals? Why do
Speaker 2: I go there.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, but it's because I was implying it,
Speaker 4: but then you actually put it into words. But I
Speaker 4: tricked you, yeah, into going with what I was saying.
Speaker 2: Right, you know about it? But I yes, ANDed and then,
Speaker 2: but I do want to go somewhere where I think
Speaker 2: of animals having a great future ahead of them.
Speaker 4: You would like to go somewhere conversationally that way, or
Speaker 4: you would like.
Speaker 2: To actually mentally and then and then therefore conversational, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'd like to go to a place where I only
Speaker 2: have good things to say about the future of animals.
Speaker 2: But I fear it's out of it, it's out of
Speaker 2: caring for them. Sure, we live in a doggy dog
Speaker 2: literal world. Dogs are eating dogs, It's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Where in the streets, No, what streets?
Speaker 2: Wild shows that I watched that are after a war happens,
Speaker 2: dogs take over, But I'm sure it happens occasionally out
Speaker 2: in the streets.
Speaker 3: And a dog just eats another dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, it's it's actually.
Speaker 3: It's pretty enjoyable. It's not the worst thing. No, there's definitely.
Speaker 2: Worse because it's not based in reality.
Speaker 4: Because you've got to picture a really small dog like
Speaker 4: a chihuahua eating like a golden lab That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Was it just a joke that I believe Paton Oswald
Speaker 2: told or maybe a video that clearly has been doctored,
Speaker 2: But someone witnessed, and I'm sure it's happened. A giant
Speaker 2: bird carrying a barking dog, like a tiny dog that
Speaker 2: was in Paris Hilton's purse. No, the dog was like
Speaker 2: we burnt and the birds rested it down on a
Speaker 2: little cedar chip bed. Oh yeah, that's how it ends. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: see I'm getting better.
Speaker 3: You really are making huge improvements.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what happens I mean with this show
Speaker 2: is based in a place called reality, and birds are
Speaker 2: out there, giant eagles, they're picking up rabbits and stuff.
Speaker 2: And then they're in the city. There's coyotes out here too. Yep,
Speaker 2: things happen. Little dogs get picked up by big birds.
Speaker 4: I live in the fear of this because I don't
Speaker 4: think anyone, any coyote or anybody is gonna touch Frank
Speaker 4: because he's from the streets and he right, you just
Speaker 4: know not to go near Frank as a animal of prey.
Speaker 3: But my baby Blossom who's scared of everything. It's like
Speaker 3: my constant fear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I have to leave the house and leave
Speaker 4: the door open so they can pee and stuff. And
Speaker 4: then it's like hope, I hope nothing kills awesome today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's worth thinking about. I've been very seriously
Speaker 2: thinking about a cat that I've I just have my
Speaker 2: eye on this cat that's being fostered and I but
Speaker 2: I keep worrying about things that could go wrong, or
Speaker 2: if I can provide the best cat place. Because Los
Speaker 2: Angeles is riddled with coyotes, and unlike dogs, they don't
Speaker 2: care if you're confident, no coyotes will mad dog you
Speaker 2: in the as a human holding a golf club. They
Speaker 2: will come up and go, oh yeah, what are you
Speaker 2: going to do about it?
Speaker 3: Sir? It's my side of the street.
Speaker 2: It was a car in our lane coming at us,
Speaker 2: a white camera, an eighty nine license plate six seven
Speaker 2: two C three D one seven. Sorry, get them, get them,
Speaker 2: get them. That would be a weird way to get sued.
Speaker 4: Just a weird grassroots podcast attack where people are like, well,
Speaker 4: I tried to look it up online.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you want me to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just send him a nasty message.
Speaker 3: That's the one though.
Speaker 4: I get real offended when people do it coming at
Speaker 4: me on the wrong side of the road, But I
Speaker 4: fucking do it.
Speaker 3: All the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something we all need to remember. Whatever infraction
Speaker 2: or a non courtesy someone gives you out on the road,
Speaker 2: Oh chances are you've done it. Yes, unless it's that
Speaker 2: goddamn intersection drifting something that my phone decided I want
Speaker 2: to see. Maybe it's because I keep mentioning it on
Speaker 2: this podcast.
Speaker 4: You mean, like, first of all, really quick, there's a
Speaker 4: sign there. Adam Shift's office is right down the street.
Speaker 2: Let me go Adam B.
Speaker 4: Shift, Congressman twenty district District office. And then there's an
Speaker 4: arrow and there's a narrow there. Look, there's another sign.
Speaker 3: Over there you can go in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's telling you that it's right at fifty five hundred.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So contact Adam B. Schiff and tell him. Let
Speaker 2: him know white Toyota Cameron license plate. Yeah, what do
Speaker 2: we know about Shiff? We should know about our.
Speaker 3: Life, yift is, we do know a little bit about it.
Speaker 4: He was running for senate State Senate. You've got to
Speaker 4: be fucking kidding. Me, all of you.
Speaker 2: Right, this I've never done. I've actually oh and now
Speaker 2: they're just driving into people.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that was a bad one, that people taking left,
Speaker 4: taking a left instead of waiting at the red right.
Speaker 2: I've actually, I'm gonna say, I don't ever do that.
Speaker 2: I've annoyed people my whole life by stopping at a yellow. Yes,
Speaker 2: you have to, Yeah, Schiff was did you say comtroll Shift?
Speaker 4: He's a state com patroller. Shift was running against Katie Porter. Uh,
Speaker 4: I don't remember what happened. That's it feels like eight
Speaker 4: hundred years ago, and it was just like recently.
Speaker 3: Did he win?
Speaker 5: So he's going on to run against a republic in November.
Speaker 3: So okay, Katie Porter didn't win that.
Speaker 4: No, I know I voted for her. But he's good too.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like that was a six to one situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you can be almost We live in a
Speaker 2: bit of a bubble in Los Angeles where you can
Speaker 2: be kind of hands off if you you can look
Speaker 2: at the specifics and realize, no, we still got some
Speaker 2: weirdos here. Yes, a word that's being thrown around a walk.
Speaker 3: Hey, oh, it's another white car in my lane.
Speaker 2: Well, actually I do. That was before it became your lane.
Speaker 3: Oh that's true.
Speaker 2: Now I'm just looking for to see. That was an
Speaker 2: example of we all do it.
Speaker 3: Be fair.
Speaker 2: We're getting klouse, are we? God damn it, it's okay.
Speaker 3: I thought I was wrong. I was gonna turn that way,
Speaker 3: and I thought I was wrong.
Speaker 2: What if we did or just nope, that's not naley.
Speaker 2: But we do this just to do a little turnaround. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do this in three or four points.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. I think I can get
Speaker 3: it done in three points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say you drop pennagram.
Speaker 3: Ugh, this isn't ideal.
Speaker 2: This This person, of course, wants to be where the
Speaker 2: minute you want to turn around in someone's driveway.
Speaker 3: Is anyone gonna?
Speaker 2: I think you're good? They just show up, thank you?
Speaker 2: Sorry urgently. Oh he's not happy here.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't care if he's happy or.
Speaker 2: Not to bags filled with ice cream. He's got to
Speaker 2: get in there.
Speaker 4: The thing is, guys, it's not a very wide street
Speaker 4: and we all have to be on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God damn goddamn. Anyway, don't worry about your.
Speaker 3: Pets or adam shift right.
Speaker 4: That's over. I've had your chance to worry about that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: is that them?
Speaker 2: I think it might be today's guest. I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: You know today's guests from their work at clubs and
Speaker 2: colleges throughout the country. I'm starting too early. It's a
Speaker 2: common mistake. Everyone put your ears together for everywhere we're in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's the immediacy.
Speaker 3: This is the most daunting thing I've seen in my life.
Speaker 3: White seats in the back of a beautiful Tesla. Is
Speaker 3: that doxing you guys in any way to take care
Speaker 3: of No, it's too late, it's all out. It's all
Speaker 3: it's all come out already.
Speaker 2: I mentioned the white seats constantly.
Speaker 3: I love that fan.
Speaker 2: I am a big fan me too, but that it
Speaker 2: would have been horrible.
Speaker 3: To hear you were both foes alone alone with this.
Speaker 3: Is this your car, Karen? It is? Yeah, Okay, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Oh congratulations, I mean, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Karen has mixed feelings about the Tesla company.
Speaker 4: Of course, I got it before the Nazism really started
Speaker 4: to shine through.
Speaker 3: For your post X, I believe pre okay still.
Speaker 2: Twitter days you should laminate and show your title to people.
Speaker 3: Just improvement with the date. Yeah, I think that's a
Speaker 3: great idea. Maybe take it to the windshield just in case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right side of history arrow.
Speaker 4: Refer to this if you have any questions about who
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: And just your phone number in case people sort of
Speaker 3: want to chat about it quick text you want if
Speaker 3: you want any confirmation. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great, happy to be here. Fun being a
Speaker 1: passenger in a car. I'm a perpetual driver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, welcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you'll or at least I noticed. When
Speaker 2: I'm a passenger, I am discovering Los Angeles for the first.
Speaker 3: Time looking around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really fun. You're looking at roofs.
Speaker 3: You're constantly looking at roofs. I'm finding out myself too.
Speaker 2: I gaze up as I drive. You know, I was
Speaker 2: on the street being a passenger. It's your chance to
Speaker 2: just check out these rooms.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that attitude, and I'm gonna start bringing that
Speaker 1: energy to more things.
Speaker 3: I think I really love that. I'm doing well. I'm
Speaker 3: happy to be here. Thank you so much for having me,
Speaker 3: of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very excited that we're having you. I've
Speaker 2: I am a fan. I think I stumbled across. The
Speaker 2: first thing I saw was you interviewing Jordan Rubin with
Speaker 2: the Ventriloquist Stummy.
Speaker 3: Oh Josh, yes, Josh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Josh with the Ventriloquist Stummy. And I you
Speaker 2: know that first edit like kind of described very well
Speaker 2: what that show. Very interesting people.
Speaker 3: It's called very important people, very important for the part.
Speaker 2: I'm so good nailing and this is a shot in
Speaker 2: the dark, but it's called very important people.
Speaker 3: That's it. Take wonder. That's what I've been saying.
Speaker 2: And I think that I told I was talking about
Speaker 2: it and showing it to enough people that my phone
Speaker 2: then started showing me everything you've been doing and introduced
Speaker 2: me to drop Out TV.
Speaker 3: Absolutely huge for me. Thank you so much. I really
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm such a fan. You're from Minnesota? Is
Speaker 1: that correct?
Speaker 2: I am actually and people think Montana is the mid Yeah,
Speaker 2: they very But what people don't know, and maybe that's
Speaker 2: why they're thinking this, there was an in state tuition deal.
Speaker 2: People from Montana could play in state tuition in Minnesota. Minnesota.
Speaker 1: And you know where I went wrong is your IMDb
Speaker 1: says you're from the big the big Sky state.
Speaker 3: Is that what it is? Yeah? And I said that
Speaker 3: is Minnesota. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's the effect right where you're just everything's
Speaker 4: Minnesota these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 3: Everything is Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I also recently found out Minnesota is a part of
Speaker 1: the Midwest, and I said that to somebody and they
Speaker 1: got very upset with me. And it was a good
Speaker 1: faith question, if I'm being honest, Well.
Speaker 2: It is, isn't it that Minnesota is where you think
Speaker 2: of first or mon Yes. I grew up people thinking
Speaker 2: Montana is the Midwest, and I'm like, hey, there's a
Speaker 2: couple of Dakotas that are substantial in size.
Speaker 3: In the middle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I'm somebody that I really prided myself. I
Speaker 1: think it was the only thing I had, was like
Speaker 1: being able to memorize state capitals.
Speaker 3: And then I.
Speaker 1: I'm not in front of a map and some but
Speaker 1: he's like, tell me where North Dakota is and I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't describe it. I couldn't tell you what states
Speaker 1: are around it. It's just sort of an island.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that knowing all the capitals, it's
Speaker 2: just a thing that you memorized, and I question someone's
Speaker 2: integrity when they've done that. This is a party trick.
Speaker 3: Huh intro very confrontational, yea guest. No, I'm being called
Speaker 3: out and I love that.
Speaker 2: Actually, I will flip a table and someone says I
Speaker 2: can draw the shape of all the states. That's where
Speaker 2: I cut it off.
Speaker 3: So there we actually do have common ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when I got fake angry about that, I
Speaker 2: forgot you had just said.
Speaker 1: No, it's okay. And to be honest, I'm not very
Speaker 1: good at it. I'm good at it, but there's absolutely
Speaker 1: in any given room there's one person that's better at
Speaker 1: it than me. I'm a solid number two across.
Speaker 2: The boarder, right right, there's someone that uh knows the
Speaker 2: past capitals, Yes, up until seventy eight, which, of course
Speaker 2: they'll talk about some you know, movement that changed things.
Speaker 4: I learned the capitals because my sister memorized the capitals
Speaker 4: by making a tape recording of herself on the brand
Speaker 4: new stereo my parents had just bought that, and it
Speaker 4: came with this microphone you plugged in, and she stood
Speaker 4: there and made.
Speaker 3: A tape and then listened to the tape over and over.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: So when I'm trying to think of a state capital,
Speaker 4: I can hear my sister. She's like, you know, Alaska,
Speaker 4: she was trying to do like an announcer voice as
Speaker 4: she did it.
Speaker 1: Did she get into podcasting, because that sounds like maybe
Speaker 1: she also should.
Speaker 3: Have gotten into podcasting.
Speaker 4: She probably should have, but I think maybe I was like,
Speaker 4: give me that mic, and so I really had the
Speaker 4: drive to get into podcasting because it was withheld from me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you didn't have an opportunity with the mic. So
Speaker 1: you said, the MIC's going to become my personality.
Speaker 3: Right, I was like, I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm tired of being this outsider watching my sister
Speaker 4: get all the glory.
Speaker 2: Right. That was a glory. Actually, that was the start
Speaker 2: of my career, is recording my sister, recording me say
Speaker 2: things and playing it back. And that was the funnest
Speaker 2: game ever.
Speaker 3: Is that true?
Speaker 2: Yes? Like what I just making me act things out
Speaker 2: or sing little songs and then we'd listen to the
Speaker 2: recording and it was so exciting. It was like a
Speaker 2: fun game to play with a much older sister.
Speaker 3: Were you the funny one in the family.
Speaker 2: I think I read somewhere actually that you used to
Speaker 2: reenact movie scenes in front of your family, and I
Speaker 2: related that to that very much, because yes, my family
Speaker 2: would have me perform. Oftentimes it was puppets.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2: I thought the show would be promoted throughout the house.
Speaker 2: I'd hide behind the dining room table, and I don't
Speaker 2: remember many of the productions, but they were mostly puppet
Speaker 2: based and yours were full movie.
Speaker 1: So we got really into the Lion, the Witch, and
Speaker 1: the wardrobe. The one or till the Swinton was the
Speaker 1: White Witch, and I was in love with Tilda Swinton
Speaker 1: at the time, and so I was like, Okay, great,
Speaker 1: I'm the White Witch.
Speaker 3: The White Witch is the star of the show.
Speaker 1: She was popping up in scenes where she wasn't ordinarily,
Speaker 1: giving looks sort of great, improvising a little bit of dialogue,
Speaker 1: she was getting interacting with characters maybe she wouldn't be
Speaker 1: interacting with ordinarily. And then I was also so it
Speaker 1: was me and my siblings and my cousins, and they
Speaker 1: were getting recast on the fly as well. I just
Speaker 1: had a real vision for.
Speaker 3: What the show was supposed to look like.
Speaker 1: Who was in the audience, sometimes my aunt, sometimes nobody.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we were just performing for the love of performing,
Speaker 1: which I actually think maybe is the thing that I
Speaker 1: think performing for almost no people sets you up to
Speaker 1: understand what you find funny.
Speaker 2: The best, Yeah right, and it gets you used to
Speaker 2: being on set because I've noticed from starting in stand
Speaker 2: up comedy, I panic when no one's laughing, and that's
Speaker 2: because they're holding a camera or doing their job or
Speaker 2: doing sound.
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, and then I don't want to ruin the
Speaker 3: take and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So I do, honestly have trouble knowing if I've done
Speaker 2: a good job because I base it on laughter. And
Speaker 2: that's that's the downfall of being a comic.
Speaker 3: I think my sister used to make.
Speaker 4: My sister used to come into my room and go
Speaker 4: She would say the name she should be like Pat Benatar,
Speaker 4: hit me with your best shot two minutes and then
Speaker 4: she would go back and her friend Adriam would be
Speaker 4: in her room and then I had two minutes to
Speaker 4: make up a routine and basically like it always involved
Speaker 4: a chair and dancing around a chair, and then I
Speaker 4: would have to go in my hit me with your
Speaker 4: best shot performance for them, do a full like dance
Speaker 4: and usually lip sync, and then it would be over
Speaker 4: and then she go get out.
Speaker 3: There was no applause. There was no any appreciation.
Speaker 4: It would just be like get out, and I knew
Speaker 4: they'd come back and assign me a new one. So
Speaker 4: I was just sitting in the other room wait for
Speaker 4: the next thing.
Speaker 7: And you, sister Laura Michaels, I know she's I think
Speaker 7: she really set in this kind of like a hardcore
Speaker 7: training early of like you'll get no applause and you'll
Speaker 7: keep coming back and performing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is the only stage in town. Baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have you auditioned for Saturday Night Live?
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 1: I one of my friends was on one year and
Speaker 1: I submitted a packet and she then was not on
Speaker 1: SNL the next year. And that's as far as my
Speaker 1: SNL knowledge. Because I am such an appreciator of the show.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was one of those kids where
Speaker 1: like I watched all of the ones from the late
Speaker 1: seventies and into the early eighties. If we had those
Speaker 1: box DVD sets when they were coming out sort of
Speaker 1: in the mid aughts, is that what we're calling it?
Speaker 2: I think, So there's nothing else.
Speaker 1: I feel self conscious about that, but I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it during that time period. But I you know, I
Speaker 1: knew pretty early on that I didn't think that like
Speaker 1: that was a route for me, even though I was
Speaker 1: an appreciator of like the comedy, and it definitely shaped
Speaker 1: a lot of like especially like the Christen Wig era
Speaker 1: shaped a lot of like my comedic sensibilities, like sketch
Speaker 1: has never per se been.
Speaker 3: Like my uh my big, my big thing.
Speaker 2: Right right. I started in an improv group and I
Speaker 2: got kind of traumatized by that format of really, here's
Speaker 2: for people. We're all gonna wear a white dress shirt
Speaker 2: and we need a suggestion Like I did it enough
Speaker 2: to wear it, I would panic, And then when I
Speaker 2: started doing stand up, it gave me more control and
Speaker 2: I was less scared.
Speaker 3: Oh how interesting.
Speaker 1: I do find that that happens a lot with improve
Speaker 1: where it's people that are sort of like this would
Speaker 1: be so much funnier if I just wrote everything down.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I like all the shows you've been
Speaker 2: a part of with the dropout dot TV, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a really fun and interesting way to
Speaker 1: do improv because I I first and foreman like, I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time by myself as a kid,
Speaker 1: and so I spent a lot of time watching TV,
Speaker 1: and I especially really like comedy stuff, and I've seen
Speaker 1: like every recorded improv special and thing that's out there. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, Mister Show was a huge influence on me.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan that I pointed to you.
Speaker 3: But we were in a car, so that was sort
Speaker 3: of a felling on my ear.
Speaker 1: It was because I tickled your ear a little bit,
Speaker 1: seems like across this carrier, right of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. You guys have like that screen back
Speaker 3: here that's playing ass in my face.
Speaker 2: No spitting, no swearing.
Speaker 3: Five stars. You're yet to dog. You have to be
Speaker 3: kept in the backseat at all times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you guys have a fur guard here
Speaker 1: for me, which is probably fair.
Speaker 3: But how was I saying?
Speaker 2: Just the different?
Speaker 3: Like, but you liked about me on Mister Show. So talented,
Speaker 3: it's so funny.
Speaker 1: Oh but so I think, like, especially going into something
Speaker 1: like this and knowing that it was going to be improvised,
Speaker 1: I think a lot about like why you're putting a
Speaker 1: format in a certain medium, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of times with I am a big fan of theater,
Speaker 1: musical theater. This is coming back around to make a point.
Speaker 1: I promise there was this thing called like Broadway Direct
Speaker 1: there was like a Broadway streaming service, and it makes
Speaker 1: a huge difference when you see people pro shot stuff
Speaker 1: and they just sort of put cameras in three places
Speaker 1: and then put it out there. People that like Broadway
Speaker 1: are going to watch it, but it really is like
Speaker 1: why are we watching it in this format? It's meant
Speaker 1: to be watched live, and especially with improv, where it's
Speaker 1: a lot about like your relationship to the audience, right,
Speaker 1: and like that's a part of the magic is like
Speaker 1: you know that it's created on the spot because you're
Speaker 1: you got it, you gave a suggestion or you told
Speaker 1: a story or whatever, and then you're watching it happen
Speaker 1: in real time. I think especially with like my show,
Speaker 1: which is like an improvised VFX, like characters get into
Speaker 1: the efs makeup and then I interviewed them.
Speaker 3: Part of what was interesting and cool about.
Speaker 1: That for that format was going like, oh, we had
Speaker 1: the ability to edit it really heavily, so I like
Speaker 1: take huge swings. And then our director tomorow Vine, who's
Speaker 1: like absolutely incredible. She is not an improv person or
Speaker 1: a comedy person, but she is like a brilliant experimental
Speaker 1: film director. And so because of that she sort of
Speaker 1: has this idea of like she can take out all
Speaker 1: of the comedy from it and go like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: is gonna make most sense for story?
Speaker 3: What's gonna make the most sense in it? Edit?
Speaker 1: What's like the cool things that we can do afterwards
Speaker 1: to make this all like fit together? Like how do
Speaker 1: I take something from the end and re order it
Speaker 1: to make it like look cohesive and things like that.
Speaker 1: So that to me was an interesting way to showcase
Speaker 1: and improv show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that likes sense. Yeah, like documentary editing, like finding
Speaker 2: the story from the footage you have?
Speaker 3: Yeah to Oh, I never thought about it that way.
Speaker 3: I really like that. Yeah, Yeah, I think that that
Speaker 3: definitely feels true to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that first one. I know, I keep bringing it,
Speaker 2: but I excitement of being So the guest is put
Speaker 2: in makeup or a costume. They don't they have a
Speaker 2: minute to like riff on what they might do, right,
Speaker 2: But the guest is improvising who they are as you're
Speaker 2: getting to figure out who they are in an interview
Speaker 2: and you have to pretend you're doing an interview with
Speaker 2: someone who you already know about. There's it seems so
Speaker 2: complicated when I watched it that it made me nervous,
Speaker 2: but that's a goal.
Speaker 1: Is we just really wanted to make people feel really
Speaker 1: nervous watching it did especially in a time like now
Speaker 1: where people need more nervous kind of experience. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: too cozy, that's what we kept saying, blanket of anxiety.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so fun to watch.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, truly, that means so much. I really
Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time to watch it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: something that like too. We made it. It was based
Speaker 3: off speaking of Josh Rubin.
Speaker 1: He Impact Castles were the ones that it was originally
Speaker 1: college humor series, and they were these like five to
Speaker 1: seven minute videos. And then I got an email from
Speaker 1: the CEO Samurai. She was like, hey, we want to
Speaker 1: reboot this. We don't totally know what it's going to
Speaker 1: look like, so that are it's sort of like a
Speaker 1: sam keeps calling it a spiritual sequel to the original,
Speaker 1: which feels very true. It's a sort of like and
Speaker 1: now it's a it's a lot longer. We sort of
Speaker 1: created our own lord to what's happening. But it's like
Speaker 1: it's very it's it's the most artistically satisfying thing I've
Speaker 1: gotten to do. I feel so grateful because I think
Speaker 1: I didn't think that there was ever an option to
Speaker 1: make any money doing improv and to have it be
Speaker 1: like a big part of.
Speaker 3: What I'm doing has just been such a gift. I
Speaker 3: feel so grateful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've become a fan of everyone that I
Speaker 2: saw on that that is also on the game show
Speaker 2: format where what is that show called?
Speaker 3: Oh, game Changers? Are you like a game show fan?
Speaker 3: In general? Do you like games?
Speaker 2: I am. I've been addicted to the one Paton Oswald
Speaker 2: that's doing. That's like it's called one percent and it
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with high tax bracket conservatives. It's
Speaker 2: like the last question, they have only one percent of
Speaker 2: the people pulled who and who knows where they are?
Speaker 2: How large group it is got it right? So it
Speaker 2: is a very hard question, but it starts with the
Speaker 2: easy ones, and they're all like IQ test type question.
Speaker 3: Can you give us an example of a question see
Speaker 3: if we can get it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Right? That would be unless I have to memorized,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to pretend I'm on one of your shows.
Speaker 2: They're One of the questions, was.
Speaker 3: Angel falls.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: That's the tallest waterfall in the world. Is that true?
Speaker 3: It's on Jeopardy all the time? Is Angel Falls? Is
Speaker 3: that the FAVORITEAM show? Yes, Jeopardy for sure.
Speaker 2: Jeopardy makes me feel dumb. And maybe it's a.
Speaker 3: Mirror one doesn't make you feel well.
Speaker 2: No, because the tie the questions are visual. That's why
Speaker 2: it's hard for me to think of an example, because
Speaker 2: like one of the first ones will be here's here's
Speaker 2: a maze, which route and you only have enough time
Speaker 2: to find out, you know, they only show it to you.
Speaker 2: It's timed, so you have to figure out a maze
Speaker 2: very quickly. Which Those kind of things or word jumbles,
Speaker 2: How many different words can fit into this jumble of words?
Speaker 2: Things like that I'm good at. But if you ask
Speaker 2: me a trivia question and it is about someone in
Speaker 2: my own family, I will freeze just because of past
Speaker 2: I don't know. Test anxiety.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, we're all of a sudden. It's like there
Speaker 1: is a definitive writer, wrong answer. The person that it's
Speaker 1: going to mean something too is looking you dead in
Speaker 1: the eyes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that can be just knowing a friend's name
Speaker 2: at a party. Yeah I am, I will that's the
Speaker 2: anxiety life.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I did find a site with some one
Speaker 5: percent questions.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's do some come on just a few weeks.
Speaker 3: This is an immigration, this is patent paid us, all right,
Speaker 3: so this is skipping all the way to the one percent.
Speaker 1: Oh shit?
Speaker 5: What is the first number in English that, when spelled out,
Speaker 5: has its letters in alphabetical order?
Speaker 2: What the first could you repeat the question? I know
Speaker 2: they don't do it, but it's usually shown on a chiron.
Speaker 3: So what is the first number?
Speaker 5: So like the spelling of that number in English that,
Speaker 5: when spelled out, has its letters in alphabetical four?
Speaker 3: No, because you comes after RK. Are you sure? No?
Speaker 3: Is that right? You're You're close, You're actually got in
Speaker 3: in a way. You're close?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Five? Five is definitely down there. Six you're on the right.
Speaker 3: Six you were closer with four, but not numerically. Let
Speaker 3: me just say that twenty.
Speaker 4: Four Wow, warmer forty four double ditches digits eighty nine?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: Is this one? Is this a crazy one where it's
Speaker 3: like the eight is a doctor? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It did seventy eight nine in this one. Oh, that's
Speaker 3: actually a really great question.
Speaker 2: I all of the questions, I will say, as we
Speaker 2: continue to think about the answer. I do require you
Speaker 2: to be able to look at the sample like it
Speaker 2: it's so hard to imagine, so.
Speaker 3: Like they write out a thousand numbers, and then you
Speaker 3: would get to what I'm oh, you're I'm brushing.
Speaker 2: The you're visualizing it.
Speaker 3: Did you do spelling bees ever anything like that?
Speaker 1: No, because isn't that a thing with spelling bees that
Speaker 1: they do where they like rate them with their feet
Speaker 1: or they like or they like do something with their
Speaker 1: hands and then they like wipe it away because once
Speaker 1: you start talking, you can't go back. And I know
Speaker 1: that because then you'll put them cutty spelling bee, which
Speaker 1: you were in that good show.
Speaker 3: I was not, but they did it.
Speaker 1: They're going to graduate like the year I graduated, and
Speaker 1: I did consider coming back, and I was politely told
Speaker 1: that it was for people that were still amressed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a spelling bee. I would. I have always
Speaker 2: had trouble visualizing saying it out loud, but if you
Speaker 2: could have a pen and paper during a spelling bee,
Speaker 2: I would do very well. That that's kind of explaining
Speaker 2: my issue in a nutshell.
Speaker 3: I really like that visual learner.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and that one percent show. My point is
Speaker 2: it's very visual, learner based knowledge.
Speaker 4: What is Can we just have the answer? It's forty
Speaker 4: fucking forty?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would take forever?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Like ending? And why?
Speaker 2: If you were looking at the word though, you would
Speaker 2: just go ABC, ABC. You would do that with each.
Speaker 4: Right word, well until you get to forty, right or yes,
Speaker 4: that's good TV.
Speaker 3: You're right TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was imagining a multiple choice verse and forty
Speaker 2: was presented to you, So yeah, that wouldn't work either.
Speaker 2: I swear I was good at it.
Speaker 3: I try, I trust you. Can we do another question?
Speaker 4: Just because that was so fucking hard and hilarious that
Speaker 4: I just want one one?
Speaker 3: Can we do one that maybe I'm gonna be better at?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Can I look better in this one?
Speaker 2: Let's do a thirty?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's so it goes down from like one hundred
Speaker 3: to like, yes, Okay, questions are very visual.
Speaker 2: That's one hundred.
Speaker 5: That was That was like the easiest one to describe
Speaker 5: without showing it to anybody.
Speaker 3: So let's see, let's do Okay, this is a ten
Speaker 3: percent question.
Speaker 5: The first letter of the alphabet that doesn't rhyme with
Speaker 5: another letter of the alphabet is F. But what is
Speaker 5: the next one? G?
Speaker 2: H yeah, I would.
Speaker 5: Say, l you know what's crazy is you each said
Speaker 5: one of the I'm such an asshole.
Speaker 3: It's multiple cho.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are so sorry.
Speaker 1: No, you named one of them, but mine is wrong
Speaker 1: because I immediately came up with the rhyme it was
Speaker 1: it was, it was, you're so good at this, your genius.
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, thank you, but I think it's
Speaker 4: just guessing mostly right.
Speaker 1: Well, the good news is there for this one in particular,
Speaker 1: there are only twenty five possibilities.
Speaker 2: True, right, Yeah, No, I had to.
Speaker 4: Think about that too, like, hold on, I don't know
Speaker 4: if I I have to.
Speaker 2: Have the alphabet in front of me, so I actually
Speaker 2: count to know.
Speaker 3: Are we going with the English alphabet, Let's do the Arabic? Yeah, letters,
Speaker 3: I would prefer to the Arabic letters, if that's okay.
Speaker 3: There's a.
Speaker 4: I was I was about to say, there's a famous
Speaker 4: story in my family.
Speaker 3: All lies. I don't know why I'm setting it up
Speaker 3: this way.
Speaker 4: One time I was at home by myself and Jeopardy
Speaker 4: was on at like four o'clock and I watched it,
Speaker 4: and then at seven o'clock when everybody else got home
Speaker 4: in my family, because because My family has watched Jeopardy
Speaker 4: every night at seven for like thirty fucking years.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that.
Speaker 4: And so at seven when everyone was there, it was on,
Speaker 4: and I just started answering all the questions.
Speaker 3: I was probably in seventh grade or something.
Speaker 2: That's so great.
Speaker 3: My mother was. She was over the moon. She was
Speaker 3: so thrilled. She was caring, you have to try it whatever.
Speaker 4: And finally I had to tell on myself because she
Speaker 4: was getting too no she was like too happy about it.
Speaker 3: Or I'm like I already watched did you know relationship?
Speaker 3: Well she was like, oh, I'm back to being disappointed
Speaker 3: and with you.
Speaker 2: There was a little window it.
Speaker 4: Was she was it was hilarious, and I was just like, well,
Speaker 4: this is truly stolen valor.
Speaker 3: I can't I can't really let this continue any further.
Speaker 1: Is there even like a small part of you that
Speaker 1: was like I could watch Jeopardy early for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life and then come.
Speaker 4: Back and then be a genius and then finally get
Speaker 4: the goddamn credit in this family that I deserve, just
Speaker 4: the respect that you really deserve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does get you the respect of your elders.
Speaker 2: Jeopardy nothing like it yeah. Yeah, there's nothing else you
Speaker 2: can do to make your grandma love you.
Speaker 4: Also, there is a part of watching Jeopardy because it's,
Speaker 4: you know, going to visit my dad now, Like it's
Speaker 4: really like whatever happens in the day, we're meeting back here,
Speaker 4: and this is what we're going to be doing. And
Speaker 4: I do guess almost like instinctually, where it is pretty
Speaker 4: amazing when you're like, oh my god, I was actually
Speaker 4: right about that, Like where did that come from? There's
Speaker 4: like some reservoir in my brain that's like I'm ready
Speaker 4: for you to watch Jeopardy and get something right.
Speaker 1: WHOA. Yeah, that is always kind of crazy to think about.
Speaker 1: It's like how much do you know that you just
Speaker 1: can't remember? That's like rattling around in there somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I feel like there is stuff like that where
Speaker 1: like moments where like that are high stress moments. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, something that I was trying to remember
Speaker 1: really hard.
Speaker 3: Like weeks before will shake loose. I feel like that
Speaker 3: happens to me a lot. Mm hmm. Is that a sickness?
Speaker 3: Is that being ill?
Speaker 2: I feel?
Speaker 4: Because you said you're in theater, so I bet you
Speaker 4: that has to do with like you can't blank on
Speaker 4: your lines.
Speaker 3: You have to know all of them.
Speaker 4: You have to know other people's lines, Like there's there's
Speaker 4: that right where you're just like you get into a
Speaker 4: new show, here's your new job.
Speaker 3: Oh get it? Really the old jobs and the old
Speaker 3: stuff come back to the new stuff. Yeah, that brings
Speaker 3: true to me.
Speaker 1: I like that, though, I will say I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever done a production of anything where I haven't
Speaker 1: forgotten at least a chunk of something.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite play you've ever been in or Sean,
Speaker 3: That's a great question.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a show right now at uc B that's
Speaker 1: just been like the most fun thing in the entire
Speaker 1: world called Mama Mia. Bit different and it is literally
Speaker 1: all it is is Uh. The philosophy is that Mamma
Speaker 1: Mia is like the MCU where it has it can
Speaker 1: be anything, and you can collect any like eight Abba
Speaker 1: songs and they can be their own show that's completely
Speaker 1: unrelated to Mama Mia proper. So just every month we
Speaker 1: have new writers write these Mama Mia shows and they've
Speaker 1: all been really different and really crazy.
Speaker 2: It's so fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did one that was like a bluegrassy one
Speaker 1: called Avalatcha Mama Mia, but Everyone's Babies is the one
Speaker 1: we're doing this month, and we did Mama Mia the
Speaker 1: Piper the first month. You know that Abba song the Piper, No,
Speaker 1: neither did I. And now when we did a whole
Speaker 1: musical around it.
Speaker 2: But if I heard it, i'd know it.
Speaker 3: Well, you might not have it's a it's a deeper cut.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I do only know the Abba hits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would sing it, but I as much as
Speaker 1: I enjoy singing, I was always somebody that was a
Speaker 1: really loud singer, and I think for it gets you
Speaker 1: pretty far until you hit like regional theater, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people are like, Okay, now tone's
Speaker 1: gonna matter a little bit.
Speaker 3: This ANNI production is over and you are now in
Speaker 3: the real work. Yes, yeah, well that really is.
Speaker 1: It is like because as soon as you hit regional,
Speaker 1: it's like, if you're a dancer, that will get you
Speaker 1: through to the next round of things, because they're always
Speaker 1: desperate for dancers.
Speaker 3: But then again, singing.
Speaker 1: Like you need a little little under there, a little
Speaker 1: bit of training, a little bit of breath support, I.
Speaker 4: Do it makes me simultaneously incredibly sad and then also absolutely,
Speaker 4: like just in love the way people are such good singers,
Speaker 4: like the people on TikTok that get famous because they
Speaker 4: are in their room and they just record and they're amazing,
Speaker 4: and then suddenly everyone knows that they are.
Speaker 3: Like I love that. I love how good people are.
Speaker 4: But I used to get to live in this totally
Speaker 4: ignorant bliss that I was really good and then you're
Speaker 4: like even like and truly I'm not saying it to
Speaker 4: like nothing, truly I'm not. But it's like people so
Speaker 4: many people have auditioned for American Idol. Yeah, they're all
Speaker 4: American Idol level except for the joking. People like good
Speaker 4: and they just aren't as good as like Kelly Clarkson
Speaker 4: or whatever. It's like the ceiling is so high for that.
Speaker 4: It's kind of great, but it also it's sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so tough.
Speaker 1: I think singing is that thing for me where I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I could wake up tomorrow and be so good
Speaker 1: at something that you have to be really skilled to
Speaker 1: do and takes a lot of time to learn how
Speaker 1: to do, I think I'd pick singing. Do you guys
Speaker 1: have something like that where it's like tomorrow, like you
Speaker 1: would have all of the like baked in skill sets,
Speaker 1: like I think it would be singing or maybe cooking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. Even as a child, my fantasy, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure I mentioned this, but I always thought as
Speaker 2: a kid, when I come back for I guess a
Speaker 2: high school reunion or maybe just during school a pep assembly,
Speaker 2: my fantasy would be doing this amazing concert piano recital
Speaker 2: yeah for all the other kids when they didn't know
Speaker 2: I could even play piano, yeah, and just blow it
Speaker 2: out of the water. I or sometimes it was sex phone.
Speaker 2: It was a different time, but that was what I
Speaker 2: wanted to be good at piano.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 4: I have dreams where I can play the piano and
Speaker 4: it is so exciting in the dream where I'm like
Speaker 4: it's nuts, I just sit down and start doing it,
Speaker 4: or I'm like this.
Speaker 3: Is amazing, and then I wake up. I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: damn it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is it that type of thing where it's like that
Speaker 1: idea of like, you know how when somebody's like choking
Speaker 1: and they're like is there a doctor? Is it like
Speaker 1: somebody takes a break from the piano at the piano
Speaker 1: bar and there's like does anybody play piano?
Speaker 2: He's fainted again. Yeah, it's I That is a deep
Speaker 2: old fantasy of mine. But I was raised in a
Speaker 2: house where a piano was in the other room that
Speaker 2: I never touched. Yeah, I think I hit it and
Speaker 2: chipped some keys with a hammer as a toddler. That's
Speaker 2: the most I played it.
Speaker 3: With a hammer as a toddler.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was another example. That was some kids that
Speaker 2: were friends of my mom's. But I wanted to just
Speaker 2: bypass the bibliography of the story. But that was Matthew
Speaker 2: and David Bebe.
Speaker 3: Give you a hammer, and we're like, go nuts, kid.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm tried tried to take credit
Speaker 2: for badhole. These monsters came over and grabbed a hammer.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about them right now, So who won
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you name drop them
Speaker 1: on your podcast today?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could probably put a little bleep in there.
Speaker 4: It turns out, though, that that was a young Joe Rogan,
Speaker 4: so his podcast is big.
Speaker 3: His podcast is pretty huge. It's no you were no.
Speaker 2: Oh, he has a tuxedo, he's got somewhere to be
Speaker 2: a piano player just fainted. Yeah, It's it's hilarious that
Speaker 2: that I started talking, I can't remember what I said.
Speaker 3: Well, that happens to me literally all the time.
Speaker 2: That's what traffical do.
Speaker 3: That's what traffical duty. Yeah, though, honestly, like I kind
Speaker 3: of like sitting in traffic. It's very like forced soothing.
Speaker 1: As a passenger, right, as a passenger, I want to say,
Speaker 1: as a driver too. I used to live in Culver City,
Speaker 1: a little bit of la geography everybody always loves hearing about, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I used to like have to take three
Speaker 1: highways to get out here, and usually I was coming
Speaker 1: like during rush hour in the morning, and you know,
Speaker 1: you'd sit there for like an hour and a half
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I've never listened to so many books
Speaker 1: in my life. Like I was going through like a
Speaker 1: bunch of like language podcasts, like I was learning how
Speaker 1: to speak Spanish.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like I was being very enriched
Speaker 3: as a person. Oh that's again, you were using your time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just don't listen to music. I think that helps.
Speaker 1: I think if you like music, that's it's hard to
Speaker 1: switch off from music.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think I would save when I lived
Speaker 2: in Marvista, which is basically Culver City.
Speaker 3: I lived in marvist to two, but that felt too niche, so.
Speaker 1: I said, you're stoner. I was off of Okay, this
Speaker 1: is very embarrassing. In the street called Sawtel, but I
Speaker 1: had never heard it said out loud until after we moved.
Speaker 1: I'd lived there for like a year and a half
Speaker 1: and I thought it was satellite, and I kept telling
Speaker 1: people I lived on satellite, and people were.
Speaker 3: Like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: And nobody ever said anything to me until I turned
Speaker 1: on my serie voice one day and it was like
Speaker 1: turning onto.
Speaker 3: Sawtel and I was like, what is going on? There
Speaker 3: was like ha ha hah, and they're like, no, that
Speaker 3: is how it is pronounced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the double tea that you just maybe put in there.
Speaker 3: Thank you for visionally, thank you for trying to help
Speaker 3: me there. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I put double t's everywhere. I've done
Speaker 2: it in a million times. No, I would. I would
Speaker 2: prepare for work in the car. I would like, not
Speaker 2: prepare things, but I knew that the drive would be
Speaker 2: an hour long, so in lieu of music, I would
Speaker 2: write that was what I was supposed to do, just
Speaker 2: by like you said, recording it and listening to it.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's really in my head.
Speaker 1: And now with the technology of the like speak to
Speaker 1: text or whatever, I mean, that's that's billble hours at
Speaker 1: the Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You punched in at nine. Yeah, but I started driving
Speaker 2: at eight.
Speaker 1: How hard is it not to constantly docks yourselves on
Speaker 1: this podcast because I feel.
Speaker 3: Like I'm hearing about this and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: what area do you live? And I'm not gonna ask
Speaker 3: that writing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I it's hopefully we back in the early days
Speaker 2: when I was recording in my lap and we were
Speaker 2: driving to the airport.
Speaker 3: Chris is the sound guy, but he had never used
Speaker 3: any of the equipment.
Speaker 2: Very fraud Yeah, it all sounded like the first season
Speaker 2: was just basically underwater. There was just a lot of.
Speaker 3: The underwater season, the famous underwater.
Speaker 2: Season, a lot of gurgling and bubbling, but never edited anything.
Speaker 2: Who knows what's back there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I tweet at us, let us know what's back Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell me about my mistake.
Speaker 2: Cancel me for things I've said.
Speaker 3: Because that's so crazy. I feel like that's something that
Speaker 3: I never thought about.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden in the last year here,
Speaker 1: it's like I took a photo and somebody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the street that Vick was on, and this
Speaker 1: was the intersection, and I think Vick shops here, And
Speaker 1: I was like, that is so scary.
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's people meaning to be scary,
Speaker 3: but it feels very scary.
Speaker 4: No, it's I think it's people forgetting that you're actually
Speaker 4: real and you and like have a life. And I
Speaker 4: think people are like, oh, no, you're the subject of
Speaker 4: my interest, therefore we're just going to discuss you like
Speaker 4: a topic.
Speaker 3: Oh that's really interesting. Yeah, that makes sense where it's.
Speaker 4: Like there's not any usually because I think people who
Speaker 4: love especially people who love comedy, it truly is like
Speaker 4: a it's a love. It's different than like if you're
Speaker 4: a famous you know, starlet or something, where it's like
Speaker 4: there's a real connect and there's a reason that they
Speaker 4: like you're specifically and.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I would imagine with you guys, especially with podcasting,
Speaker 8: that must be like a really tricky line where like
Speaker 8: you talk so much like just by nature, like you know,
Speaker 8: you're you're chatting about things and like things that are
Speaker 8: happening in your lives that people must feel, especially like
Speaker 8: extra connected to what's happening, Yeah, with you on the
Speaker 8: day to day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. Even in listening to podcasts myself, it
Speaker 2: is so much. It's the closest thing to being in
Speaker 2: a conversation with someone that you know them. They don't
Speaker 2: know you, but you know them, and so it seems
Speaker 2: like a normal thing to message them and say, hey,
Speaker 2: I took this picture of the top of your house.
Speaker 2: Do you want to use it?
Speaker 3: It looks so beautiful from the passenger seat here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it doesn't seem like it's out of bounds,
Speaker 2: but it isn't. Don't hover over houses all you drone
Speaker 2: operating podcast fans.
Speaker 3: Oh, somebody sent me a picture.
Speaker 4: I think it was Bridger because uh, he looked up
Speaker 4: my address or something and he goes, did you know
Speaker 4: this horrifying picture of the front of your house? He's
Speaker 4: on Google Maps and it was a picture of my
Speaker 4: front door. And then I think they the like car
Speaker 4: drove by on my birthday because there was a very
Speaker 4: beautiful bouquet of flowers laying on my doorstep, but it
Speaker 4: looked like someone took that and posted it. So it
Speaker 4: was like it looked and there were like kind of
Speaker 4: lilies and like it was fancy enough as a bouquet
Speaker 4: that it looked scary, like it was just kind of
Speaker 4: like who left that that from? So Bridger was all
Speaker 4: freaked out. I'm like, that was my birthday. I think
Speaker 4: those those were from all?
Speaker 3: But why was Bridger google image searching your home?
Speaker 4: And this is why I brought it up because I
Speaker 4: don't want to question him. I want him to be questioned,
Speaker 4: right right, we want answers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't, so Bridger tweet at us. Let us
Speaker 3: know for sure you were up.
Speaker 2: To He wanted to know if his flowers arrived.
Speaker 3: Oh kay, yeah, and you said the Google car to
Speaker 3: check on them.
Speaker 4: That'd be incredible if like you forgot to say thank
Speaker 4: you to someone who's saying then it's like, did you
Speaker 4: know this weird picture is somewhere?
Speaker 3: It's like it's in my phone. I took it. I'm
Speaker 3: mad at you. Well, this is like telling on myself
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: But do you ever have that where like somebody messages
Speaker 1: you and then you like saw it but forgot to
Speaker 1: respond to it, and so then enough time goes by
Speaker 1: that then they message you back about it and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh sorry that last message, Like I just didn't see
Speaker 1: or like didn't come through or whatever, just a little
Speaker 1: white lie.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, Oh yeah, I do it all the time,
Speaker 3: all the time. I do that too much.
Speaker 1: Especially I travel back and forth from Canada, and so
Speaker 1: I have some plausible deniability to.
Speaker 3: Be like, oh I just didn't come through. I was
Speaker 3: out of the country.
Speaker 4: But I do think I feel like everyone tells that
Speaker 4: lie and participates in that lie, so nobody can truly
Speaker 4: like confront you without being a hypocrite.
Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I feel that way about talking behind people's backs too,
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, I literally don't want to know
Speaker 1: anything about anything that anyone is saying about me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I unless it's something that I have to address. If
Speaker 1: people are just blowing off steam. Everybody has to do
Speaker 1: it every once in a while, Like if you need
Speaker 1: to talk some shit about me that it's one thousand
Speaker 1: percent fine.
Speaker 3: Yes, I just do not want to be party to
Speaker 3: it in any way, shape or form. I don't want
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about it. I don't want
Speaker 1: another friend telling me about it. I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: want no part in it.
Speaker 2: How about reading comments on videos online? Do you do
Speaker 2: you ever dive into that.
Speaker 3: Same thought people's thoughts on me or none of my business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I do think, especially doing having any kind
Speaker 1: of art online. It's like, if people are coming to
Speaker 1: my page with something that I've reposted to say something.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get blocked immediately.
Speaker 1: I'm fine, Like that's like, you know, there's but like
Speaker 1: if people are going to drop outs page or like
Speaker 1: online forums or whatever, that people should be able to
Speaker 1: discuss art online.
Speaker 3: I think you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And like again, unless it's something that like I have
Speaker 1: to address in one in any way, some way, shape
Speaker 1: or form, I think that people should and shouldn't be
Speaker 1: having conversations about art. And I feel very privileged to
Speaker 1: be in a position that, like people enough people are
Speaker 1: watching this stuff that I'm doing that like there.
Speaker 3: Are conversations around it. I think that's really cool. It is,
Speaker 3: It's very cool, and you're so right.
Speaker 4: It's like that idea I think some people want some
Speaker 4: that's an attempt at engagement, is like well I didn't
Speaker 4: like this, or you know, they're coming with some sort
Speaker 4: of criticism and I'm always like god, bless, like yeah,
Speaker 4: everybody gets to have their own thing about what's happening.
Speaker 3: For sure. It's yeah, you're not looking for consensus.
Speaker 2: I am so it's so unhealthy. But I care so
Speaker 2: much about the opinions strangers and if there is.
Speaker 3: A how do you engage with them? Though? Are you
Speaker 3: like chatting with people back and forth and people like
Speaker 3: saying stuff? When are you sort of like, oh, noted?
Speaker 3: Or are you just lurking? It is?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm thinking more of like when I'm doing stand up.
Speaker 2: If there's a sleeveless shirt dad up front that has
Speaker 2: his arms crossed and isn't enjoying me, That's who I
Speaker 2: focus on and that's always been the case. Everyone else
Speaker 2: is laughing. Great, why is this person not? I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't deal with it?
Speaker 3: Can I be? Honestly? This shirt dad? What are you
Speaker 3: doing sitting in the front row?
Speaker 1: You got brought here by your daughter because it was
Speaker 1: your weekend that she wanted to come sit like, sit
Speaker 1: in the backsit respectfully, somewhere in the middle behind the lights,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We were yelling at each other at home and then
Speaker 2: I realized I won these free comedy tickets tickets from
Speaker 2: the radio this morning.
Speaker 3: Well, also, I.
Speaker 4: Feel like those some audience members don't realize that where
Speaker 4: it's like, you know how you can see me, I
Speaker 4: can also see yes, looking at me and keeping the
Speaker 4: look on your face of how you actually feel about
Speaker 4: me is absolutely very rude and aggressive, even though you're
Speaker 4: just in the audience having your experience, but like the
Speaker 4: lights are on your friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would think that. A number of
Speaker 2: times the person that I thought was hating me that
Speaker 2: comes up and said that was so fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that always so interesting?
Speaker 2: Your face is not in line with what you just said.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, to be judged just on your resting
Speaker 3: face is so hard.
Speaker 1: Somebody when I was in college said I had a
Speaker 1: really stern resting face. And I've thought about that every
Speaker 1: single day since, and so I've literally practiced in the
Speaker 1: mirror of my resting face being sort of like a
Speaker 1: pleasantly amused, you know what I mean, sort of like
Speaker 1: I smelled something kind of nice.
Speaker 3: Like that's like my resting face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what people are talking about behind your back.
Speaker 2: Yeah you want to know.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, you just said you didn't want to know.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, it's like I don't know what's so
Speaker 1: interesting that I mean, coming back to theater. Seeing as
Speaker 1: we were talking about the twenty minutes ago, that was
Speaker 1: like the hardest part of it. I think about, like
Speaker 1: growing up doing theater. I highly recommended anybody that's like
Speaker 1: got teenagers like get them in the theater department in
Speaker 1: some capacity. I think it's really good and really healthy
Speaker 1: for dealing with conflict resolution and like, you know, just
Speaker 1: like preparing something and performing and I think has a
Speaker 1: lot of things. But like, I have never met a
Speaker 1: group of kids that are like, will tear each other
Speaker 1: down only to build each other back up again faster.
Speaker 3: You know, right, do you guys do theater at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did it, and well we didn't. I went to
Speaker 3: a tiny high school.
Speaker 4: We only got drama my senior year, and then I
Speaker 4: was a theater major in college. Then I dropped out
Speaker 4: of college because I became a beer major, and then
Speaker 4: I became a comedian.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty nice arc your time in college.
Speaker 1: What plays did you do or did you get to
Speaker 1: the phase where you were doing plays?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: The first one was Carnival, the musical Carnival. Yes, kind
Speaker 4: of boring, but some a couple of good songs. And
Speaker 4: I was just a lady in the background. Then the next.
Speaker 3: Did I do other plays? I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I think it was just in those kind of bigger
Speaker 4: musicals because then the smaller ones were like the really
Speaker 4: talent sophomores and the juniors and seniors would be in
Speaker 4: like the non musicals, right, So I never kind of
Speaker 4: made it to that. Then the next musical was On
Speaker 4: the Town, which was the next year's musical, super fun
Speaker 4: on the Town.
Speaker 3: It's an old one, it's an oldie.
Speaker 4: So then after I dropped out, I started going to
Speaker 4: the community college in Sacramento, and they had this really
Speaker 4: cool kind of it was the Sacramentous City Actors Theater.
Speaker 4: Oh cool, and I got immediately got cast as Antigony
Speaker 4: no way. So I went from like, can't get a part,
Speaker 4: nobody will pick me for anything, like, oh, I guess
Speaker 4: I'm maybe not that good.
Speaker 3: At it, to antigony and Antigony to the lead in the.
Speaker 4: Fucking play where I was just like, oh, oh no,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can do that. Really yeah,
Speaker 4: it was crazy, and I go, I think, really well,
Speaker 4: I had a teacher that was like a history teacher,
Speaker 4: and I always skip skipped that class or whatever. But
Speaker 4: I went to that class, and he started the class
Speaker 4: by saying like pointing at me and being like, that's
Speaker 4: the best play I've seen at this school in like
Speaker 4: thirty years. And he was just like, A, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't it's like just a history teacher. It wasn't
Speaker 4: he was like, oh, I need to make her feel good.
Speaker 4: It was like he needed to let me know. And
Speaker 4: then I was like again, it was that kind of
Speaker 4: thing of like, that's all I need to hear.
Speaker 3: I don't care what anybody else thinks.
Speaker 4: That's the ultimate fucking compliment and I'm just gonna take
Speaker 4: it as a win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that really is it a and like oh man,
Speaker 1: and also to like, I think how incredible that you
Speaker 1: also have like the ability to go like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: receive this and just go thank you, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a hard thing to do sometimes too. And
Speaker 1: I think something I'm working on personally is just going
Speaker 1: like there's a compliment flying in my direction, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it because life is hard, and like it's a
Speaker 1: hard industry, and like why you could always question it,
Speaker 1: but also you could just take it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the taking it is respecting someone else's opinion
Speaker 4: and not. I'm kind of not putting your insecurity in
Speaker 4: the foreground to go arguing or whatever. It's like, no,
Speaker 4: let other people's opinions sway you when it's good.
Speaker 3: Like you're saying, it's the least you can do for yourself.
Speaker 2: In this and the other person my mom growing up,
Speaker 2: people would always compliment my mom and she'd go, well, no,
Speaker 2: not really. She would like try and talk them out
Speaker 2: of it. You look nice today, Oh this old thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, And I'm like, okay, don't do that.
Speaker 2: But of course I do it. Of course I do
Speaker 2: that all the time.
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard not to. Okay, theater, what shows
Speaker 3: were we in?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's funny. I guess the plays I did in
Speaker 2: high school. I didn't realize that it would. I just
Speaker 2: thought it was a fun thing to do in high school.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know that after that at college they
Speaker 2: didn't really, it wasn't presented to me. I don't. I didn't. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did go Chasers, a loosely based on Ghostbusters I suppose,
Speaker 2: but it was so fun. And again it was just
Speaker 2: like you said. My my Spanish teacher was said that
Speaker 2: was great, and I that was a class that I
Speaker 2: had been kicked out of We had some issues.
Speaker 4: But he had to give it to you for your
Speaker 4: ghost Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And it felt great. But in college it just seemed like, well,
Speaker 2: there's the dance department. I'm in the visual arts arts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: painting and drawing. That's why I went to school for
Speaker 2: so I so focused on that and and currently doing,
Speaker 2: you know, painting signs and doing T shirt designs. Like
Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be my job until
Speaker 2: I was drunk at a party, got kicked out, and
Speaker 2: then in the back of the newspaper the woman who's
Speaker 2: whose house it was said, Hey, do you want to
Speaker 2: do start an improv group? I didn't even know what
Speaker 2: that meant. And then she said, I'm sorry, yes, whose
Speaker 2: line is it? Anyway?
Speaker 3: A party?
Speaker 2: Yes for trying on. I was drunk. I was with
Speaker 2: a bunch of friends. I think I broke a lamp.
Speaker 1: But and then the woman whose house it was was like,
Speaker 1: you got to get out, but also do you want
Speaker 1: to come back?
Speaker 2: Days later, my mother was looking in the back of
Speaker 2: the newspaper and the personals ads a had leopard print hair,
Speaker 2: so she knew was about me, and she said, someone
Speaker 2: wants to do improv with you, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is?
Speaker 3: No way, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Then so I called the number and yes, that's that's
Speaker 2: how I got started. It was a weird way to
Speaker 2: get started.
Speaker 1: Mind it alone, that's incredible. I've never met somebody that
Speaker 1: found themselves in a personals I.
Speaker 2: Know, I've never heard that story because oh wow, okay,
Speaker 2: I would have thought that's something I've told a million
Speaker 2: times on here. Yeah it. Otherwise I know that I
Speaker 2: would have just continued doing like graphic design and illustration work,
Speaker 2: and I still do at here and there. But it
Speaker 2: was being in that group. And then we went to
Speaker 2: Austin and there was like an improv festival there and
Speaker 2: I took a stand up class, so I moved there
Speaker 2: to do both, and then I just ended up going
Speaker 2: with stand up. So I didn't really act in plays
Speaker 2: so much. But hilariously, like the piano outside my bedroom,
Speaker 2: there's something called Missoula Children's Theater that when I was
Speaker 2: doing press jun kids act like Chris Pine said, I
Speaker 2: did the Missoula Children's Theater. There's all these kids that,
Speaker 2: as young actors moved to Missoula. So it was right
Speaker 2: outside my door and I never knew.
Speaker 3: Like specifically to get like a jump start in the industry.
Speaker 2: Yes, I apparently it's a highly regarded children's uh you know,
Speaker 2: school and production. They do plays.
Speaker 3: Wait, what are your plays?
Speaker 7: Me?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, So I I had this weird thing where
Speaker 1: I did stuff with toy t Toronto Youth Theater.
Speaker 3: I like, I didn't do any any thing. Really. I
Speaker 3: did a little bit of children's theater when I lived in.
Speaker 1: Illinois, and I had just always been like, if I
Speaker 1: have a chance to reinvent myself, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: start telling people that I do acting, which I did
Speaker 1: when we moved up to Toronto. And then I had
Speaker 1: the worst audition for my school play ever. But because
Speaker 1: everybody had thought that I did theater at my old school,
Speaker 1: they thought it was just a bad audition and I
Speaker 1: ended up getting a lead in the show. It was
Speaker 1: a bad show, but it was a great learning experience.
Speaker 1: Since then, I's a bunch of the kids that were
Speaker 1: like the really intense theater kids were like, We're going
Speaker 1: to go audition for Toronto Youth Theater. So I did
Speaker 1: that too, and Toronto Youth Theater was like the type
Speaker 1: of theater that we did Hair, and we did Rent,
Speaker 1: and the whole thing was like we were the first
Speaker 1: like youth theater troupe that were granted the rights to
Speaker 1: the full production of Rent with like what's that song called?
Speaker 3: Is it called Heat? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: It's like the sex scene song basically, but it's cut
Speaker 1: from the high school version for you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to see sixteen year olds doing that.
Speaker 3: It's problematic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then Hair, which has like the big nude
Speaker 1: scene in the middle of it, which we cut and
Speaker 1: put in a stomp number.
Speaker 2: Into really based on the very popular at the time Stop, based.
Speaker 3: On the super popular at the time. Stop was all
Speaker 3: the rage in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Was that because there was trash cans already on set.
Speaker 1: I guess it was like it was so strange, but
Speaker 1: it was, I mean, it was life changing.
Speaker 3: It was so fun. I had the absolute time of
Speaker 3: my life. Oh it's so fun. It's so fun.
Speaker 1: And it was like the first time that I like
Speaker 1: I was like going to parties, Like I'd never been
Speaker 1: to parties or anything like that before then. It was
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, it really changed my life completely.
Speaker 4: It's so like I just remember being because I came
Speaker 4: from like kind of a small farm town and so
Speaker 4: doing plays and being in that kind of very regimented
Speaker 4: system and whatever. It was like it felt like so
Speaker 4: glamorous to me, like beyond where. I'm like, we're gonna
Speaker 4: work on this for secret for months and months, and
Speaker 4: then we're gonna, you know, go in front of the
Speaker 4: whole town and everyone's going to see all the work
Speaker 4: we did and they're not going to believe it. It
Speaker 4: was like that idea was so satisfying to actually get
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 1: What a beautiful way to put that is that you're
Speaker 1: preparing for it in secret. I've never thought of it
Speaker 1: that way, but what a beautiful framing that really is.
Speaker 3: Just like so deeply specific. You don't have to cross
Speaker 3: the street.
Speaker 1: I'm actually walking down this way, so even if you
Speaker 1: want to drop me on this side, that is perfect.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to turn down this so we can
Speaker 4: just have a goodbye moment.
Speaker 2: Yet I love that we have a routine. We need
Speaker 2: you to learn to handshake.
Speaker 3: Like to sign all the PaperWorks. What's that movie where
Speaker 3: she does the handshake? Is it called the Handshake? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the handshake the parent trap. Only thank you.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry once again, I keep looking at you
Speaker 1: because we're in the backseat together, so I need your support.
Speaker 3: Appreciate I wasn't making enough, No, you really were.
Speaker 1: You're wearing really great sunglasses right now. Also, the listener
Speaker 1: can use that as a visual.
Speaker 4: I just want you to know Vic that we Chris
Speaker 4: has been so excited that you were.
Speaker 3: Coming on this podcast.
Speaker 4: God, and we've been talking about you for a while
Speaker 4: and it's oh, sorry, there's a car behind me. So
Speaker 4: we're just so excited that we finally got to talk
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 1: And here, Chris, I really literally cannot tell you how
Speaker 1: lovely this has been, and what a joy it was
Speaker 1: to go and listen to some of the episodes of
Speaker 1: the podcast and like now it'd be a podcast that
Speaker 1: I listened to and I am sitting in traffic. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan of both of yours, and I
Speaker 1: really can't thank you enough for having me on here today.
Speaker 3: This was so fun and of.
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Speaker 1: Or yeah, it's if you want to subscribe you can
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, that means the world, seriously, truly, it really does.
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