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Speaker 1: This a Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. If it gets

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Speaker 1: to welcome to the maiden voyage of Straight Fire with

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Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre. It's me. I hope you guys are doing

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Speaker 1: well on this glorious Monday morning. I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you quickly about this podcast. This is the first episode

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Speaker 1: I am recording out in Los Angeles, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the idea for this podcast hatched back in February at

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I heart told me, Hey, we've got

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Speaker 1: an idea for an authentic, fearless daily sports podcast, and

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Speaker 1: we want you to be the guy. I'm all in,

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Speaker 1: I'm all excited. And then COVID hits All Sports are canceled,

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Speaker 1: and here we are five months later, sports are finally back.

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Speaker 1: And could we have picked a better weekend for the debut?

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Speaker 1: I mean, how good of a sports weekend do we

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Speaker 1: just have? Right? A twenty three year old wins the

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Speaker 1: p g A Championship, a thrilling Sunday. He shoots a

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Speaker 1: sixty four. There was half a dozen guys in contention.

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Speaker 1: Pour some out for Dustin Johnson. You know, he went

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Speaker 1: into Sunday leading it and kind of blew it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There was hockey this weekend, there was soccer. Messy had

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Speaker 1: an amazing goal. I posted it on my Instagram stories.

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Speaker 1: I know you saw it because you guys obviously follow me.

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Speaker 1: There was incredible NBA. The Lakers lost, the Bucks lost,

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Speaker 1: and the Clippers choked on Sunday night. We will get

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Speaker 1: to NBA shortly. We'll do some NBA gambling later in

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Speaker 1: the show, but I think we gotta start with the

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Speaker 1: biggest story in sports, and that's college football. And it's

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Speaker 1: not good news. It's actually very bad. I'm very upset.

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Speaker 1: But it looks like we are headed towards a fall

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Speaker 1: pipe in the Notre Dame fight song, right. I know

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Speaker 1: you guys know what. You watched college football in the

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Speaker 1: late eighties early nineties like I did, and Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: the Notre Dame fight song. And obviously now Wisconsins jump

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Speaker 1: around is immensely popular. You just feel that energy on Saturdays,

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Speaker 1: and it's all gone. It's not gonna happen. Apparently, according

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Speaker 1: I my first thought is who do we blame for this?

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Speaker 1: How did this happen? Why did we get here? And

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Speaker 1: I think back to March when coronavirus hit starts spreading

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Speaker 1: he was the blame guy. It was his fault. That's

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Speaker 1: it's his fault. But in college football, there's really nobody

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Speaker 1: I love college football. I mean, this was shaping up

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Speaker 1: Colin Calherdy helped get me to FS one. He lives

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Speaker 1: you can't do a bubble for college football. You just can't.

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Speaker 1: Well why do you think that is, guys? Any any

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Speaker 1: college athletics model is broken. It's a billion dollar business.

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Speaker 1: Just quick reminder yet, I'm a big Paul George fan.

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Speaker 1: I was a little scorned when he didn't go to

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. They could sure as hell use him right now.

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Speaker 1: Paul George is a great player, But I just I

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Speaker 1: want you to let that sink in for a moment.

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Speaker 1: Kauai leaves the Raptors and they win over fifty games.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a guy by the name of

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Speaker 1: Jordan's awesome player, obviously all time great, best player in

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Speaker 1: NBA history, six titles. Remember when he quit the Bulls

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Speaker 1: to go play baseball and Scottie Pippen led them too,

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Speaker 1: like fifty seven wins. I mean, Lebron is just different, guys.

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Speaker 1: If you don't understand that at this point, his seventeenth

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Speaker 1: season in the league, I can't help you. You can

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Speaker 1: dislike him, that's fine. And I said at the outside

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Speaker 1: of this podcast, I'm gonna be as authentic as possible.

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Speaker 1: Lebron is a bad game. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: call it. I'm gonna call it like I see it.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, if you follow me on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: social media, you know I'm a Curry guy. Okay. I um,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about just Chicken Curry, which I

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Speaker 1: do love, but Steph Curry as well. I uh he.

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Speaker 1: I had a podcast way way back, um my first

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Speaker 1: four a into podcasts and like two thousand and ten

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Speaker 1: or whatever, and um, Steph Curry is my first guest.

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Speaker 1: And I was able to get him because he hadn't

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Speaker 1: become a superstar yet and I was just a fan

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Speaker 1: of his since Davidson he came on and recently he

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Speaker 1: was working out in my gym rehabbing. I to see

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Speaker 1: pre covid and I went up. I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you remember that podcast we did not I didn't say that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't lead with that at least, but he was

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Speaker 1: very down to earth guys, super nice. He follows me

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Speaker 1: now on Twitter, which is whatever, irrelevant. I just tossing

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Speaker 1: that out there. At any rate. If Curry has a

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Speaker 1: bad game, I'm gonna say it. That's how I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Jets fan. When they're trash, their trash,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it like I see it. So I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I can't put Kauai in the class of lebron Ja.

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Speaker 1: I just can't. He hasn't done it enough. He's load

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Speaker 1: managing in October, which is really really bad. No player

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Speaker 1: in NBA history has done that. Who hasn't been coming

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Speaker 1: off like a massive surgery? Uh, and Kauai wasn't. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't coming on surgery started load managing. All right, I

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Speaker 1: gotta find My final NBA topic actually was prompted by

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Speaker 1: the producer Rob g We Uh, we know each other

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Speaker 1: pretty well. We were texting about Luca and that Luca

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Speaker 1: pas Saturday Night between the legs for the dunk in overtime.

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Speaker 1: Bucks win. I'm sorry Bucks lose. Bucks lose to the

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Speaker 1: Bavericks and Luca Dodches was phenomenon. Nineteen assists, triple double,

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Speaker 1: just amazing player. He's twenty one years old. And then

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Speaker 1: some you know, I'm hyping them up on social media.

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of Luca. Is an awesome player to watch.

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Speaker 1: And somebody sends me a tweet that says, hey, Jason um,

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Speaker 1: James Harden makes that past all the time and I

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Speaker 1: don't see you freaking out, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: So I look at the clip and James Harden has

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Speaker 1: indeed done the between the legs past plenty. And then

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Speaker 1: I said it to Rob g and I was like,

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Speaker 1: what do we have here? And you know, Rob had

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Speaker 1: an interesting take. Robbed you would a you know, first

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Speaker 1: pledge your allegiance to the Lakers, just so everybody knows

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Speaker 1: you're in the tank for Lebron and the Lakers. Well,

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Speaker 1: first off, thank you in greasing me case. And I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. First though, let's not I'm glad you understand

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Speaker 1: the Lakers are gonna win the championship. Them starting slow

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Speaker 1: in the bubble has nothing to do with anything. Wait

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Speaker 1: for playoff Lebron to turn it on. It's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: Lakers in six hashtag, you know, I put that on

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Speaker 1: Twitter on almost every one of my tweets. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we were texting about Luca and and James Harden in

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Speaker 1: that comparison with those videos, and I told you the

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Speaker 1: problem with James Harden now is that we become immune

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Speaker 1: to his greatness. We've kind of take it for granted.

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Speaker 1: He's he's done this so much. In the regular season,

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Speaker 1: he puts up these fifty point triple double thing is

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Speaker 1: the most in history. He's just you know, sitting in

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Speaker 1: the record puts on fire, and then he gets to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and nothing. He's always coming up a little

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Speaker 1: bit short. So eventually the narrative around him became, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's great in the regular season. Hey he's putting up

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Speaker 1: these great numbers in that Dent Tony system, but he's

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Speaker 1: always coming up small in the playoffs. So you kind

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Speaker 1: of you're not as impressed anymore because you know all

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Speaker 1: of those you know, between the leg bounce basses and

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Speaker 1: the fifty point triple doubles and the step back, you know,

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Speaker 1: with three steps and then the three you know, because

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a travel We don't talk about that

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Speaker 1: too much, though. All of that happens and nobody cares

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Speaker 1: anymore because you know, once he gets to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna flame out. Yeah. It's almost like he's to

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Speaker 1: the point where, hey, man, I've seen this movie before.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those rom coms. I know what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen in the end. They're gonna get together, blah blah,

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Speaker 1: and you bail on the movie early. But you're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Harden has been you know, people compared him

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Speaker 1: scoring wise to Jordan's and I think he led the

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Speaker 1: NBA in thirty forty and fifty point games this season.

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Speaker 1: Like he's a He's a pretty incredible guy. And I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget I was a little down on hardened Rob

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Speaker 1: coming out of Arizona State, and I'll never forget I

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Speaker 1: saw him against Syracuse in the n c A Tournament

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Speaker 1: and of course Syracuse through the two three zone at him,

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Speaker 1: and Arden couldn't really do anything. This was pre Beard,

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Speaker 1: of course, and you know he's a little Doughey and

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Speaker 1: I just I didn't see him as this utterly dominant force.

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Speaker 1: And even in his early okay see days, I didn't

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Speaker 1: see him like leading the league and scoring did you know?

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Speaker 1: Not at all? But you know who else is? Doughey?

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Speaker 1: Is my man? Luca done? And that I ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: stop him for putting up these thirty four, nineteen and

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Speaker 1: fourteen games every other night. That guy is incredible. The

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Speaker 1: other thing I had on Luca don Ches was like, obviously,

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Speaker 1: because he's white, you know, the comparison to Larry Bird

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Speaker 1: are gonna happen. That's just natural, folks. I know you don't.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna like it. I don't love that, but

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Speaker 1: that's just how it's gonna be. People are gonna compare them.

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Speaker 1: And I just remember Bird winning three straight MVP Awards.

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Speaker 1: Think about that three in a row. Curry one too,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, whoa unbelievable Lebron one? I think

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Speaker 1: four and five years you want to then Derrick Rose

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Speaker 1: one one and then Lebron one too. But Rob, do

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Speaker 1: you really think Luca could win three straight MVP Awards? Oh? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: In NBA history, there's only two guys who have ever

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Speaker 1: averaged twenty nine and nine Russell Westbrook, the big oh

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Speaker 1: Oscar Robinson also had the triple Devil, So that's obvious

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Speaker 1: they got Luka done. Should last I checked is like

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Speaker 1: point to assist per game away from nine And this

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Speaker 1: is the second season. What is he gonna be putting

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Speaker 1: up in year four? In year five and he's putting

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Speaker 1: up these video game numbers. I'm sure that mag are

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Speaker 1: gonna be winning at a pretty high clip by that point.

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Speaker 1: How would you not give him an m v P

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Speaker 1: at that point? I mean, it's really how they build

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Speaker 1: around him. But so far, Mark Huban's DoD a pretty

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Speaker 1: damn good job getting Porzingis as a steal. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: listening to folks. I do want to just tease this.

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Speaker 1: The lineup today for NBA games is absurd. Dallas Luca

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Speaker 1: Donchech against Utah. The lines are kind of spotty right now. Um,

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Speaker 1: Dallas is favored. I mean, I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: don't love Dallas and that although you know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people will say, hey, they're gonna not perform as well.

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Speaker 1: Given to win over the Bucks. Toronto versus Milwaukee, Now

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee's a five and a half point favorite. These are

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Speaker 1: the two best teams in the East. Unfortunately for Toronto.

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Speaker 1: You know, they had that bad loss to Boston, so

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Speaker 1: I think people are a little off on them. I

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Speaker 1: actually think that's my favorite bet Raptors getting five and

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Speaker 1: a half against Milwaukee. I just I'm not buying the

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Speaker 1: Bucks right now. They can't stop anybody defensively, and Toronto

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Speaker 1: is not great defensively, sorry, offensively, their offense is not great.

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Speaker 1: Van Fleets a problem, but he struggled the last couple

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Speaker 1: of games. I just think Toronto big huge spot. Now.

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Speaker 1: It is, uh, you know, not the greatest spot given

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Speaker 1: the back to back, but they know how much gap

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Speaker 1: there is between Milwaukee and the rest of the East,

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Speaker 1: and I think Toronto shows up. I like them plus

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Speaker 1: five and a half. The other two games Lakers Denver's

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Speaker 1: huge rob This is a big game. Denver has a

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Speaker 1: chance now at the number two seed given that Clippers

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Speaker 1: loss on Sunday. I don't know if Jamal Murray's gonna play,

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Speaker 1: but eventually they're gonna need him. The Michael Porter can't

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Speaker 1: keep carrying this team. And the other game is the

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Speaker 1: big one Indiana Miami. And I know you're like, oh, Jason,

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00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: come on, it's a Bubble game. The last time they played,

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Speaker 1: t J. Warren and Jimmy Butler got into a fight.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler was blowing kisses to him after as he

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Speaker 1: got ejected, and like basically was like talking on t J. Warren.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler's a lockdown defender. He's a dude, you one

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Speaker 1: in the foxhole. I mean, he's came up from nothing.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is a great success story. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: for this game Indiana Miami and the Bubble. Just a

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Speaker 1: great Monday of NBA and the playoffs I think start

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Speaker 1: next week. So very fired up about that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hit you with the gambling picks all the time. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you guys know I love gambling. Obviously, NFL will be massive.

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Speaker 1: There will be an NFL season, don't worry about that.

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Speaker 1: That's happening unlike college football. So my pick of the night,

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Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors getting five and a half against Milwaukee. Listen

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Speaker 1: when you hear this, Uh, maybe the line has moved.

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Speaker 1: You never know what's going on in the desert. But

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Speaker 1: I definitely like the Raptors in that spot against the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Remember subscribe and leave me a nice comment. And also

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Speaker 1: five stars on iTunes, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts.

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