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Speaker 1: hour or two on this Friday, Dan and The Dane's
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Has the MVP already been named? Game
Speaker 1: hasn't been played? Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Could the MVP be somebody who doesn't even play a game,
Speaker 1: doesn't get in for one play. He's the Chiefs trainer,
Speaker 1: Rick Burkholder. According to Jay Glazier NFL on Fox Insider,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs trainer Rick Burkholder may have saved the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl for the Chiefs and had this to say on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Shout out to Rick Burkholder, who is
Speaker 1: the trainer for the Chiefs, who figure man this barber
Speaker 1: from the Chiefs, let me give him a quick PR
Speaker 1: test just in case and got it Because he didn't.
Speaker 1: Mahomes is up next, like all these guys wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to play. Rick Burkholder, the trainer Chiefs. Y'all could
Speaker 1: tweet this out, Rick Burkholder, the trainer that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: shaved the Super Bowl by giving that barber an immediate
Speaker 1: test to find out that he had it and prevented
Speaker 1: the rest of the team from getting a haircut from
Speaker 1: this guy. He saved a super Bowl. That's Jay Glazer,
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports NFL Insider on Fox Sports Radio. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Patrick Mahomes was third in line
Speaker 1: to get the haircut, but if he was, then maybe
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs trainer did save the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: But if they don't test this barber, then everybody gets
Speaker 1: a haircut, and then what happens. And you probably had
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty guys waiting to get their haircut. This
Speaker 1: is what I don't understand. If you know the barber
Speaker 1: is gonna give haircuts and you see Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: third in line. If I'm a backup offensive lineman, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say to Mahomes, hey, why don't you why don't
Speaker 1: you start us off here? You got to the things
Speaker 1: to worry about here. Yeah, point no. This is like
Speaker 1: one of the flunkey's testing the King's food before he
Speaker 1: eats it to make sure it's not poison. You get
Speaker 1: a couple of scrubs up there and they get their
Speaker 1: do busted. You don't want Mahomes, Well wait, wait, you
Speaker 1: make it seem like they brought in this barber and
Speaker 1: they've never used him before. We don't know that. We
Speaker 1: haven't confirmed her denied that. I want a couple you know,
Speaker 1: you put the backup, fullback in. They're fine if he
Speaker 1: gets his hair wrecked. Oh so you want the barber
Speaker 1: to get a couple of reps on some backup guys, Dan,
Speaker 1: if we brought in a new barber here, would you
Speaker 1: go from? Well, if it was a new one, then yes,
Speaker 1: I would say that. I'd have somebody else go before me.
Speaker 1: There you go, yeah, yes, I'll tell you what. That
Speaker 1: dude's business would have been finished. If he's the barber
Speaker 1: that tank the Chiefs back to back and nobody's going
Speaker 1: to get a cut there. He would move to Tampa. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yes he would. Oh let's see, we got Tony Dungee's
Speaker 1: going to join us coming up. Terry Bradshaw will stop
Speaker 1: by as well. Yesterday, at the end of the show,
Speaker 1: I dropped a little bombshell when I said that the
Speaker 1: Denver bronc were interested in Matthew Stafford and they were
Speaker 1: willing to trade Drew Locke to the Lions and also
Speaker 1: their first round draft pick, and created a little bit
Speaker 1: of a buzz, a little bit of fire there in
Speaker 1: the Broncos camp there, But I stand by what my
Speaker 1: source told me. Also, I was told yesterday there's information
Speaker 1: that's getting out that has to do with Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: and the Eagles, and follow along with this logic here,
Speaker 1: because it was reported that the Eagles are receiving calls
Speaker 1: on Carson Wentz. So who would be leaking that information out?
Speaker 1: Would it be other teams? No, because then you would
Speaker 1: have more competition probably and more coverage on Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Could it be the Eagles who were leaking this out? Yes,
Speaker 1: because I'm wondering if they've had any calls on Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: If I want to are to market, this is how
Speaker 1: I start a market. The Lions started a market with
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. The Lions said, come get him, let us know,
Speaker 1: give us your best offer, and they got the best offer.
Speaker 1: They got the offer from the Rams. I was told
Speaker 1: yesterday by a source, no one underline has called the
Speaker 1: Eagles about Carson Wentz. Nobody's called. I think the Eagles
Speaker 1: want to create a market here. I think they want
Speaker 1: to see. Now, keep in mind, you brought in a
Speaker 1: coach whose job is to help fix Carson Wentz. All right,
Speaker 1: Nick Siriani comes over from the Colts. His job is
Speaker 1: to fix Carson Wentz. If his job is to fix
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, then why would you be taking phone calls? Now?
Speaker 1: Do you get calls and then you hang up on
Speaker 1: him immediately? Do you entertain the GM or whoever it
Speaker 1: might be personnel direct true was calling about this. I
Speaker 1: think the Eagles are trying to create a market, but
Speaker 1: in the meantime they want to fix Carson Wentz. And
Speaker 1: they might have to just fix Carson Wentz because right now,
Speaker 1: from what I was told yesterday, nobody's calling about Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: But if I got somebody who's expensive and damaged goods,
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Goff is expensive, but he's not damaged goods,
Speaker 1: and he's good, not great, And as strange as it
Speaker 1: may sound, Jared Goff may be more of a sure
Speaker 1: thing than Carson Wentz right now. But I don't know
Speaker 1: what I have with Carson Wentz. He didn't do well
Speaker 1: with competition, he didn't do well with criticism. He wasn't
Speaker 1: considered a great locker room guy. Teammates said things about him.
Speaker 1: I don't know who I have here. Does he have
Speaker 1: talent he did, but I don't know who he is now.
Speaker 1: You know, with Jared Goff, he got an injured thumb.
Speaker 1: It's not like he blew out his knee. And was
Speaker 1: he going to keep his job with the Rams if
Speaker 1: he doesn't and they don't bring in Matthew Stafford? Maybe not,
Speaker 1: probably not. But I got a guy who is what
Speaker 1: twenty six years of age? All right? I would feel
Speaker 1: more confident with that. And you keep Jared golf for
Speaker 1: two years and then after that you can let him
Speaker 1: go and it doesn't cost you a pen. Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea, but I was
Speaker 1: told yesterday that the Eagles have not received calls on
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. That's why they said they're receiving calls because
Speaker 1: they'd like to receive some calls. Yes, Eagles apologists. Mclovin.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that the city's excited. They want
Speaker 1: Hurts bad. They you know, they always this is the
Speaker 1: time it loves to back up what they have him.
Speaker 1: They want Carson out, they want Jalen Hurts starting. I've
Speaker 1: read a lot yesterday. You know, if you go back
Speaker 1: and look at Jalen Hurts, his numbers. As much as
Speaker 1: he gave them a lift, they weren't great numbers. That's
Speaker 1: how Philly works. It's always the backup, all right. Eight
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Speaker 1: your phone calls coming up. The government's top infectious disease expert,
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci recommends people don't have Super Bowl parties this year.
Speaker 1: Wants to make sure we slow the spread of corona virus.
Speaker 1: I understand controversial for some people, but for hardcore football
Speaker 1: fans like myself, I think you have to admit it.
Speaker 1: Not going to a super Bowl party sounds pretty good
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't need doctor Fauci to help me,
Speaker 1: but hey, I can always fall back on that. Don't
Speaker 1: have to go to a super Bowl party. Yes, super
Speaker 1: Bowl parties remind you know some people that how did
Speaker 1: I get around these folks? People who don't care about football,
Speaker 1: but they want to be at the party, and they
Speaker 1: want to tell you what they had at the party
Speaker 1: where the party was commercial comes on, you'll get the
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're you've been held captive by
Speaker 1: one of those parties before I went to one and
Speaker 1: I had flown back from Atlanta and watched the Patriots
Speaker 1: and the Falcons, and I watched with a bunch of
Speaker 1: Patriot fans. And of course it's twenty eight to three
Speaker 1: and at halftime, and it was very somber. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a fun And I said, in my life, I said,
Speaker 1: why don't we get going? She goes, it's only halftime.
Speaker 1: I go, I know, but let's just go And uh,
Speaker 1: I said, let me just go home watch it at home,
Speaker 1: all right. And I'd like the guy who hosted the party.
Speaker 1: It was just it wasn't a fun. Food was great,
Speaker 1: and they had cigars and beer, and but it was
Speaker 1: every play they acted like Fritzie does when he's watching
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Good hard, come on, come on, that's a penalty.
Speaker 1: But thank you, doctor Fauci. If you need an excuse,
Speaker 1: then you got one. To not go to a super
Speaker 1: Bowl party. Yes, yes, boy, that said. If you would
Speaker 1: have told us all we should all go to super
Speaker 1: Bowl party, I'm still staying home alone. I don't care
Speaker 1: what anyone tells. Uh. Every week, writer comedian Amber Ruffin
Speaker 1: responds to news of the day in the way that
Speaker 1: only she can catch the new episodes of The Amber
Speaker 1: Roufughan Show every Friday, streaming exclusively on Peacin a couple
Speaker 1: of phone calls here, Uh, Jonathan and Florida joining us
Speaker 1: on the program. Jonathan, welcome, Hey, Happy meet Friday and
Speaker 1: the fellows. Uh. Just take my daughter out for a
Speaker 1: walk on beautiful sixty degree weather day in Campa Bay area. Um,
Speaker 1: Friday for the Super Bowl. I want to let you, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: we get it. It's nicer there than it is here.
Speaker 1: We survived in Northeastern, know what me in August? Jonathan,
Speaker 1: let me know how it feels in Tampa. All right,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not gonna feel too good. But now
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know how it became
Speaker 1: a DC United fans. So I just wanted to piggyback
Speaker 1: off what mclen was talking about. Just hell, Lebron just
Speaker 1: elevates everybody in Brady like he was talking about KCP.
Speaker 1: But I like him when he was in Miami and
Speaker 1: North Koola and Mario Commers. Yeah, they're pretty big time contributors.
Speaker 1: And you know, after Lebron left you and really hear
Speaker 1: anything about them. Well, you know what's interesting about Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is he's Lebron James and Michael Jordan. I know
Speaker 1: that's going to shock you here, but if you look
Speaker 1: at his career, it's very similar to Lebron's in that
Speaker 1: he has been in nine Super Bowls. This will be
Speaker 1: his tenth. Half of his career, almost half his career,
Speaker 1: he's been in the game. Lebron same way. Now, Brady's
Speaker 1: won six Super Bowls. That match is Michael Jordan. Michael
Speaker 1: has six NBA titles. He went six, he won all six.
Speaker 1: Tom has six, and of course he's got three losses.
Speaker 1: But with Lebron, it's very similar that he got there
Speaker 1: and even getting there and he lost three times, he
Speaker 1: still won six of those Super Bowls. But if you
Speaker 1: look at you know, Michael Jordan was he had six
Speaker 1: NBA titles in thirteen years with the Chicago Bulls. He
Speaker 1: had so six times he won the title. The other
Speaker 1: seven years he didn't get to the NBA finals, although
Speaker 1: six of seven he won the NBA title. Wait, we're
Speaker 1: nitpicking there, but you know, I see Brady and Lebron
Speaker 1: as far as what they're and I'm talking not talking
Speaker 1: about athletes. I'm not talking. You know, Lebron has been
Speaker 1: the best player I'm just looking at the resume. When
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, I think Lebron will be
Speaker 1: the greatest basketball player of all time because we'll look
Speaker 1: at his resume start to finish, complete resume, better than
Speaker 1: anybody who's ever played the game. But if Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: was let's say he won six and he lost three,
Speaker 1: would we look at Lebron differently? What if Joe Montana
Speaker 1: one four lost three they had gone to seven four
Speaker 1: and oh looks better than four and three. But I
Speaker 1: will argue to the contrary. The only way you can
Speaker 1: win it is if you're in it, and I have
Speaker 1: to give you credit that you got there. Brady couldn't
Speaker 1: have done any more than he did against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: He threw for five hundred yards. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: think about it, Brady could be nine and oh, but
Speaker 1: Joe Montana can't be. It can only be four and oh.
Speaker 1: Jordan is six and zho. Lebron could be tenor no.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times we look at
Speaker 1: that quarterback who loses the Super Bowl and that's a negative.
Speaker 1: I think that hurt a lot of the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: for a long time. The Minnesota Vikings for a long time.
Speaker 1: They lost Super Bowls, even players who played on those
Speaker 1: Broncos teams that got blown out in the Super Bowl. Somehow,
Speaker 1: when you lost, you went down to the bottom of
Speaker 1: the totem pole. And it wasn't fair to those players
Speaker 1: to do what they did. And as many times as
Speaker 1: they got there, nobody's going to go four consecutive times
Speaker 1: like the Buffalo Bills. I don't think, and maybe Kansas
Speaker 1: City does. But I'm just saying they went four times
Speaker 1: and lost four times. But I still love what Joe
Speaker 1: Montana said to Jim Kelly the Chiefs lost to the Bills,
Speaker 1: and then Joe told Jim Kelly, why didn't you let
Speaker 1: us go because we know you guys are gonna lose.
Speaker 1: That's a good shot there by him. Only Montana could
Speaker 1: say that too, Jim Kelly, Hey, Jim, why don't you
Speaker 1: let us go because you guys are gonna lose? That's
Speaker 1: pretty good as his brutal Oh, Jeff and Detroit, Hi, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Buddy? Sorry? What's going on? Dan?
Speaker 1: Let little pest? Teddy Bruskie calling that staff man he's
Speaker 1: not tough enough. Oh now, my stafford threw a touchdown
Speaker 1: with a separated shoulder, and if you look at the
Speaker 1: video you could clearly hear it along with that. I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of Chats. I can't wait till the
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen podcast. I would love to smoke some meat
Speaker 1: with that guy. I'm you know what, let me stop.
Speaker 1: Let me stop, because between me smoking meat and Paul's
Speaker 1: hot pol I guess double on time isn't just the
Speaker 1: name of a of a stage, name of a lady
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I tell you, listen, not a question
Speaker 1: for it. Seriously, Patrick Mahomes ends up defeating Tom Rady.
Speaker 1: Does that reshuffle the deck? Because so often we put
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers number two? I honestly believe with him losing
Speaker 1: this year, it did. It did a lot worse for
Speaker 1: his career by just losing this one, because he should
Speaker 1: have had a second Super Bowl or at least getting
Speaker 1: to the big game up under his belt. Not I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, this guy, second year in the
Speaker 1: league or third year in the league, second Super Bowl win?
Speaker 1: You know, does that reshuffle the deck in your eyes?
Speaker 1: I thought that Aaron Rodgers had the most to gain.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeff great here from you have a good
Speaker 1: weekend by winning another super Bowl, because if you have two,
Speaker 1: it puts you in a different category, just like Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: If Andy Reid wins another super Bowl, now you're in
Speaker 1: a different category. Belichick is up here and Chuck Nole
Speaker 1: is up here. But all of a sudden, if you
Speaker 1: start to put yourself in there with two, you move up.
Speaker 1: Just like we look at Drew Brees. If he had won,
Speaker 1: he would have moved up. You know, Peyton got his second,
Speaker 1: he moved up a little bit there. Aaron Rodgers had
Speaker 1: the most a game because Brady's you know, he's the goat.
Speaker 1: Then we wait ten years and we see where Mahomes
Speaker 1: is when it's all said and done. But Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is a contemporary of Tom Brady. You know what is
Speaker 1: he thirty seven? How many more opportunities is he going
Speaker 1: to get? And he realizes that one slipped right through
Speaker 1: his hands. But imagine if Aaron Rodgers is playing in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and what he could gain by winning MVP,
Speaker 1: beating Patrick Mahomes as well if Brady doesn't. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're going to be shocked, but I do think
Speaker 1: we add one more, whatever it is to Tom's resume
Speaker 1: another brick to the wall because he's sitting up higher
Speaker 1: than everybody else. We'll talk to Tony Dungeo join us.
Speaker 1: Coming up. We also want to talk about the NBA
Speaker 1: with the All Star Game. Sounds like the NBA on
Speaker 1: stead app an All Star game, but the all stars
Speaker 1: don't want to have an All Star game. Have that
Speaker 1: for you coming up as well, we'll take a break
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Speaker 1: He's the Hall of Fame coach Football Night in America.
Speaker 1: Analyst won a Super Bowl as head coach of the Colts,
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl as a player with the Steelers.
Speaker 1: You know what, Let me start there, Tony Dungee. Give
Speaker 1: me the Steeler defender who made you nervous? He scared you.
Speaker 1: The Steeler defender who made me or other people nervous? Well, both, well, two,
Speaker 1: I'll have to start with two. Ernie Holmes was the
Speaker 1: one who made everybody else nervous. He was a great player.
Speaker 1: He was not a real stable person, and when he
Speaker 1: turned it on, he could dominate a game. Now, the
Speaker 1: guy who made me nervous was Jack Lambert the very
Speaker 1: first my rookie year. Lambert was holding out. So we're
Speaker 1: in the fourth preseason game. He's coming back. First time
Speaker 1: I met him, first time. I'm in the huddle in
Speaker 1: practice and he looks at me. He gives me the call.
Speaker 1: We break the huddle. He said, now you know when
Speaker 1: we play on Saturday, I won't have my teeth then,
Speaker 1: so you may not be able to understand it. You
Speaker 1: can't understand me, tap me on the shoulder and I'll
Speaker 1: give you the ant single. And I'm thinking, what, you
Speaker 1: won't have your teeth then. But he was a mess that.
Speaker 1: We had some characters on that defense. But you know,
Speaker 1: the Raiders are given credit for having those personalities. Did
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh have it? They just didn't flaunt it the way
Speaker 1: the Raiders did. That's exactly right. Coach No was great.
Speaker 1: He didn't you know, he didn't sterilize the group, but
Speaker 1: he said, you've got to be yourself, but on the field.
Speaker 1: Off the field, we've got to have a little bit
Speaker 1: of discipline. And so we had some guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: Joe Green wasn't named mean Joe Green for nothing. Jack
Speaker 1: was crazy, Ernie Holmes was different to White. White was
Speaker 1: very different. Mel Blunt. We had some tough guys and
Speaker 1: they had some different personalities. Frenchie Fuqua maybe the most
Speaker 1: flamboyant guy in the league. Okay, did he have shoes
Speaker 1: that had goldfish in the heels like he had glass
Speaker 1: bottom shoes. The goldfish were gone by time I got there.
Speaker 1: I read about that. I never saw them. But I
Speaker 1: did see him come in on a Friday morning for practice,
Speaker 1: just in shorts and T shirt and flip flops and
Speaker 1: he had a garment bag over his shoulder. After practice,
Speaker 1: he was going out on Friday night and it was
Speaker 1: a tux sedo outfit. Matching Kate Matching, Matching, came matching hat.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just unbelievable. But that that was
Speaker 1: a crew. It was a group. Give me a Jo
Speaker 1: Mean Joe Green story. Um. Joe used to tell us
Speaker 1: he used to get very mad at guys who got
Speaker 1: personal foul penalties for retaliation. So you can't let a
Speaker 1: guy get to you like that. There's ways you can retaliate.
Speaker 1: You have to keep yourself under control and retaliate while
Speaker 1: the player is going somewhere down the line. You can't
Speaker 1: fight during you know when when the clock has stopped
Speaker 1: and when the officials are looking. And we're out in Denver,
Speaker 1: and Denver had an offensive guard named Paul Howard, who
Speaker 1: Joe thought was holding him. He turned around to the
Speaker 1: umpire right behind him and gave the best line I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. He said, if you don't stop this guy
Speaker 1: from holding me, you're gonna go to jail because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill him, and you're gonna go as accessory to
Speaker 1: a murder. And then he proceeded. Two plays later, he
Speaker 1: hit Paul Howard in the stomach with a body count
Speaker 1: that knocked him out during the play. And I think
Speaker 1: he got fined afterwards but never penalized for it. But
Speaker 1: when he did the mean Joe Green Coca Cola commercial,
Speaker 1: what that changed everything? It felt like Lambert was so
Speaker 1: mad at him. After that, he said, you're done, You're through.
Speaker 1: We have no more the real Joe Green. We've got
Speaker 1: this fake Joe Green now, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: we can win another Super Bowl. I mean, we didn't
Speaker 1: even talk about the offense here Tony because he had
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw. He joined us next hour. But I mean
Speaker 1: Terry was a little whacky. He was on as whacky
Speaker 1: as he is now. Or was it was he wacky? No,
Speaker 1: he was. He would he would do the interviews after
Speaker 1: the game, and back then there were different stations and
Speaker 1: they would come to you one at a time and
Speaker 1: he'd laugh. He'd say, I'm gonna tell them something different
Speaker 1: every single one. So they will tell me about this
Speaker 1: touchdown past the Swan and he'd tell Channel seven, well,
Speaker 1: I came up with that play and I did this
Speaker 1: and tell the whole long, two minute story. And then
Speaker 1: Channel nine would come and he'd say, yes, Star Wars
Speaker 1: suggested that play. And I would think to myself, don't
Speaker 1: you realize all of these are gonna eventually be shown
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be you know, the same, like you
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. But he was so funny.
Speaker 1: One of my best Terry Bradshaw memories. You have to
Speaker 1: ask him about it. Back in the day, we used
Speaker 1: to have a pay phone only at the end of
Speaker 1: the hallway in the door. You know. There was no
Speaker 1: cell phones or that, so you had to wait in
Speaker 1: line for the pay phone. Bradshaw was on the phone
Speaker 1: one night with a whole line of people waiting on
Speaker 1: the phone. He was on there for two hours, buying
Speaker 1: a horse on the phone that he had never seen before.
Speaker 1: Somebody's describing it to him and how much should I
Speaker 1: pay for this horse? And is it fast? And is
Speaker 1: he gonna win the Kentucky Derby? And we're all sitting there, Hey,
Speaker 1: I got to talk to my girlfriend. I got to
Speaker 1: talk to my wife, and he's buying a horse. We're
Speaker 1: talking on the phone, talking to Tony Dungee, the Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Football Night in America analyst. I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: you the defensive coordinator for the Buccaneers. You're Todd Bulls. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you want the Chiefs to do? I want
Speaker 1: them to have to throw ten passes on a drive
Speaker 1: to score. I don't want to see the seventy five
Speaker 1: yard bomb to Tyreek Hill. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: the forty yard pass to Travis Kelsey. Now I think
Speaker 1: I've got a little edge in this game that i
Speaker 1: didn't have in the last game because last time we
Speaker 1: played them. Now they don't have their left tackle and DP.
Speaker 1: That's a critical, critical injury because what Kansas City has
Speaker 1: to do that really hurts them at three positions. Now,
Speaker 1: the right tackle has moved over to left tackle. He's
Speaker 1: not as good as Fisher. Okay, the right guard had
Speaker 1: to move to right tackle. He's not as good as
Speaker 1: the right tackle. And then the backup right guard is in.
Speaker 1: So they're weaker at three positions in the offensive line.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling all my guys, Jason Pierre, Paul Shack,
Speaker 1: Barrett and Dominkin, Sue Golston, you guys have to win
Speaker 1: the game. We can't blitz and leave our guys one
Speaker 1: on one. You guys have to beat this bang up
Speaker 1: offensive line and put some pressure on the homes. That's
Speaker 1: how we're gonna win the game. All right, you're Steve
Speaker 1: spack Nolan. Now what are you gonna do? Is the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator with the Chiefs. What do you want the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers to do? You got a pressure Tom Brady up inside,
Speaker 1: and we've got to cover tight not let him throw
Speaker 1: the ball quick and get rid of it. Rodney Harrison
Speaker 1: has been beside me for twelve years telling me that's
Speaker 1: how you have to play Time. You got a pressure him.
Speaker 1: You got to bang the receivers so he can't throw
Speaker 1: it quick. So that means, Chris Jones, you got to
Speaker 1: have a big game pass rushing inside. We may send
Speaker 1: some blitzes inside defenders, a lot of bump and run covers.
Speaker 1: We might be even okay if they throw one big ball,
Speaker 1: but we're not going to let Time. Just get in
Speaker 1: that rhythm of eight or ten balls in the road.
Speaker 1: Just short, quick, get it out of his hand. We've
Speaker 1: got a pressure him. I was also wondering about this that.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about quarterbacks and sometimes we'll say, boy,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the most talented quarterback. Here's Brady who is
Speaker 1: not the most talented. It's not like he's slowing down
Speaker 1: because he was never fast enough to slow down. He
Speaker 1: still does what he's been doing for a long time.
Speaker 1: But can you teach pocket presents? Not really. You either
Speaker 1: have it or you don't. He has it. Mahomes has
Speaker 1: great pocket presents and can move around and feel people
Speaker 1: around him. Tom does the same thing. He can see
Speaker 1: people around him, feel people around him, and still keep
Speaker 1: his eyes down the field. He knows when he's got
Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball. He's great and if
Speaker 1: you have him on rhythm, he's as good as anybody
Speaker 1: who's ever played. And now he's got probably a better
Speaker 1: at receiving corps than he's had since that two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven group with Randy Moss and Welker. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got some talented guys. So what he's done this
Speaker 1: year without the benefit of the timing and all the
Speaker 1: off season program and everything, it's pretty amazing. Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: If he wins another super Bowl to change things in
Speaker 1: how he's viewed it pretty much, he might be a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Now I'm guessing tone, Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. If he wins this super Bowl, I
Speaker 1: think he's a lock. How many people have won back
Speaker 1: to back Super Bowls? Not that many. How many people
Speaker 1: have taken two different franchises to the Super Bowl, not
Speaker 1: that many coaches? How many people have done it for
Speaker 1: this long period of time and this offense that he's
Speaker 1: put together over the last If he goes five more
Speaker 1: years with Patrick Mahomes, they'll put up numbers that we
Speaker 1: have never seen before. So yeah, I think he's a
Speaker 1: lock for the Hall of Fame, but this would solidify it.
Speaker 1: And you knew this you were a college quarterback, and
Speaker 1: it's something we've talked about before. But you know when
Speaker 1: we profiled black quarterbacks coming out of college to go
Speaker 1: into the NFL. Warren moon Through is good at deep
Speaker 1: ball as anybody who's ever played the game, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't this scrambling quarterback, but he had to
Speaker 1: go to the Canadian Football League. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson has helped in the profile or Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes has helped in profiling, And maybe profiling is the
Speaker 1: wrong word here, but it feels like maybe reverse profiling here.
Speaker 1: Who do you think has helped that position with African
Speaker 1: Americans more as we move forward with Lamar has done
Speaker 1: or Mahomes, No, I think a guy who really has
Speaker 1: done the most for it is Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: comes in six foot tall, not the big, powerful, prototypical quarterback.
Speaker 1: He moved around, he scrambles, He makes what we call
Speaker 1: off scheduled plays, and he did that and took a
Speaker 1: team to the Super Bowl. And so yeah, Doug Williams
Speaker 1: took a team to the Super Bowl, but he's six
Speaker 1: four two twenty rocket arm pocket passer. This is what
Speaker 1: we're looking for. But now here's Russell going with a
Speaker 1: completely different direction and taking a team to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what let some scouts and maybe
Speaker 1: it's even some coaches say, you know what, if I
Speaker 1: designed some things and do what these guys can do,
Speaker 1: I can present some problems. And now you see Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson followed by Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray, and defense is saying, wow, now I've
Speaker 1: got to design some specific things. I can't play all
Speaker 1: the coverages that I normally play because Lamar Jackson can
Speaker 1: take off and run seventy five yards if I'm in
Speaker 1: man coverage and nobody's spying him, and giving defense is
Speaker 1: different problems. So I think it's been great to see
Speaker 1: how these guys are being utilized. And so that is
Speaker 1: not only African American quarterbacks, but Baker Mayfield and Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's Now we're seeing these type of day and it's
Speaker 1: always interesting when you talk to you know defensive players,
Speaker 1: if you know, the frustrating part is Brady's right there
Speaker 1: like he's but you know, Frank Clark says, you know,
Speaker 1: he might just dip his shoulder a little bit. But
Speaker 1: that's even more frustrating. It feels like he's right there
Speaker 1: and I might not be able to do anything about it.
Speaker 1: Where is you know, Russell or Kyler or these guys
Speaker 1: who can get out of Mahomes Josh Allen, I don't
Speaker 1: know what would be more frustrating. I would think that,
Speaker 1: you know, the mobile guy puts more pressure on you,
Speaker 1: But as a defender, that guy's you know, three feet
Speaker 1: away from me and I can't get to him. Tom
Speaker 1: is probably more frustrating for those defensive linemen because of
Speaker 1: just what you're saying. I'm close, I'm thinking I'm getting pressure,
Speaker 1: and here the ball comes out and it's an eighteen
Speaker 1: yard completion. But I'll tell you for the coach that
Speaker 1: John Elway, Russell, Wilson, Lamar Jad, you do everything right,
Speaker 1: you defend the play and you've got kind of got
Speaker 1: him squeezed in the pocket. Everybody's covered. Should be a
Speaker 1: win for the defense, and now he moves around and
Speaker 1: Mahomes throws fifty five yards across field to to DeMarcus Robinson,
Speaker 1: and you say, what am I going to do? And
Speaker 1: that's the frustration John Elway used to drive me nuts.
Speaker 1: I was coaching secondary for the Chiefs and we got
Speaker 1: plaster guy back there, Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis, and
Speaker 1: we're on guys for eight to nine seconds, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he scrambles out and throws one
Speaker 1: across the field fifty five yards to the tight end.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy, and you say, what are we going
Speaker 1: to do it? It's just he was impossible to defend. Um.
Speaker 1: Do you have a team you're picking here? Do you
Speaker 1: have to pick Tampa because you live in Tampa. Now,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm really concerned and worried. I
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to play still. I don't know
Speaker 1: who's going to get a haircut and not be able
Speaker 1: to play in the game. And you know that that
Speaker 1: is crazy that we still don't know exactly who's going
Speaker 1: to be out there. I'm worried about the Kansas City
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think that all things were equal, everybody's healthy,
Speaker 1: I would pick the Chiefs, but I think this line
Speaker 1: could get overmatched and it could present some problems. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm there with you. I think that this game will
Speaker 1: be won by you know, your offensive line, in your
Speaker 1: defensive line, and who's able to protect and who can
Speaker 1: put pressure there? Did did Brady's success put more pressure
Speaker 1: on Peyton manning to be successful because a lot of
Speaker 1: times you guys would match up in the playoffs, Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know if Peyton compared himself to Tom or
Speaker 1: everything he did was measured against Tom. And here's Tom
Speaker 1: going to more Super Bowls? And what that did? I
Speaker 1: don't think it was that. But we did know we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to beat the Patriots, that was said, So
Speaker 1: you start focusing in on them. What are we going
Speaker 1: to have to do to win these matchups? And yeah,
Speaker 1: we all wanted to go to super Bowls, and I
Speaker 1: know Peyton wanted to go to more than Tom, did
Speaker 1: you know? But to do that, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots. So that was always our focus coming
Speaker 1: into the season. Do you know Brady better than Belichick
Speaker 1: or either one? I don't know either one really well.
Speaker 1: Tom though really fascinating IM. You know, send him a
Speaker 1: text when he came here. I said it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard to root for you, but you're home team now,
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna have to. He's sent the text back,
Speaker 1: and then I think Shannon Sharp talked about how I
Speaker 1: ranked the quarterbacks five years ago or something, so that
Speaker 1: brought up a little animosity, I guess. But then I
Speaker 1: sent Time a text of my son Jordan, who wanted
Speaker 1: a Brady hoodie for Christmas, and I got it for him,
Speaker 1: and I sent the picture to Time and he laughed,
Speaker 1: and he sent Jordan an autographed jersey and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, just notes to my boys. So it's been
Speaker 1: really good. It's been nice sending him do well and
Speaker 1: have fun here in Tampa. Wait, give me, how did
Speaker 1: you rank these quarterbacks that it bothered Tom. I had
Speaker 1: him at number six, and I know I started out
Speaker 1: with the premise then that first of all, you can't
Speaker 1: rank them by who's the best. It's impossible to rank.
Speaker 1: My dad would say Autogram's the best ever, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't argue with that. How do I know? Between ears?
Speaker 1: So I started out the piece with I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go by who's the best. I'm gonna tell you who
Speaker 1: was the most problematic for me? Personally preparing, Okay, John
Speaker 1: and I started with John Elway because of just the
Speaker 1: story that I told you, And then Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: Steve Young, the mobile guys who you could defend everything.
Speaker 1: And then Steve Steve Young ran seventy five yards with
Speaker 1: the whole Minnesota Vikings team, broke about twenty tackles, you know,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put those guys first. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to my pocket passers, and well, of course everybody.
Speaker 1: Then how can you have Tom Brady six? He won
Speaker 1: fifty five Super Bowls? And I said, that wasn't the
Speaker 1: point of it. It wasn't who won the most super Bowls?
Speaker 1: Who was the best, Who was the toughest to really handle?
Speaker 1: The best pocket passer in your opinion of all time
Speaker 1: is who? Again, it's still hard to say. Modern era,
Speaker 1: modern era, they were known as a pocket passer. Is
Speaker 1: Peyton better than Thomas a pocket passer? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: always gonna go with Peyton because he was my quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, there's some guys warn Moon. You
Speaker 1: talk about standing in the pocket and give somebody protection
Speaker 1: and watch the ball. Just be intimidated by how pretty
Speaker 1: the ball comes. Out and how on target it is
Speaker 1: Jake And we had a receiver in Minnesota, Jake Reid,
Speaker 1: who they said didn't really have great hands. Jake caught
Speaker 1: a hundred passes one year because every ball was between
Speaker 1: eighteen to six. He didn't have to use his hands
Speaker 1: at all. And so you know, there's some guys who
Speaker 1: could throw some pretty balls. Randall Cunningham. It was a
Speaker 1: pretty pocket passer ball. Jeff George. So there's some guys
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't put in the top of the quarterback list.
Speaker 1: But if you said said, hey, I can protect them
Speaker 1: and just watch him throw from the pocket, you put
Speaker 1: Jeff George with anybody. He did throw a great deep ball.
Speaker 1: But the problem is that maybe the guy on the
Speaker 1: receiving end wasn't always who were he through too. If
Speaker 1: he threw to the other team, he knew where those
Speaker 1: guys were. But just pretty balls from the pocket. Are
Speaker 1: you watching at home? Are you're gonna be at stadium?
Speaker 1: I may end up going to the guy I wanted
Speaker 1: to watch at home. Boys want to go to the game.
Speaker 1: So we're kind of fighting that battle right now, but
Speaker 1: probably want to end up at the game. Great to
Speaker 1: see you tell the boys I saw and well, thank you.
Speaker 1: Ton We gotta get up and see you sometime. Hey,
Speaker 1: we gotta get up when you when you you guys
Speaker 1: are doing football night in America. If you you know
Speaker 1: you want to come to the man Cave, you know,
Speaker 1: post COVID, we gotta get there. That would be great. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, budd. Alright, that's Tony Dungee, Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. Terry Bradshaw
Speaker 1: will join us next hour back after this. Thanks for
Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to
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Speaker 1: the numbers with Andy Reid. He's got two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty eight wins regular season and postseason. That's fifth all time,
Speaker 1: taking two different teams to the Super Bowl. He trails Shula, Hollis, Belichick,
Speaker 1: and Landry for all time wins. Only coach with at
Speaker 1: least ninety wins with multiple franchises. Seventeen postseason wins tied
Speaker 1: fourth all time he's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: But you add another super Bowl there? Yeah, the club
Speaker 1: by way, it's last time to get in your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Calvin Johnson. Tomorrow. I think he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: first ballot they announced it tomorrow. Who else is going in?
Speaker 1: It's Eton Woods in Peyton, And then it seems like
Speaker 1: the narrative is Calvin Johnson might be a first first timer.
Speaker 1: It's close, though, it's not like not like Peyton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I Calvin Johnson was a great talent, probably
Speaker 1: had five or six years where he was elite. And yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: all right, maybe bisse Elli, maybe you guy. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope. And you know, people said, you know, what
Speaker 1: do you have it? You know why this love affair
Speaker 1: with Tony Bisselli. I only know what I saw when
Speaker 1: I saw it, That's all, you know. It's like Jimbo Cover.
Speaker 1: When I saw him, I thought that he was one
Speaker 1: of the best lineman that I had seen. And Tony Basselli,
Speaker 1: even though injuries cut short and I had been talking
Speaker 1: about Tony Basselli for the Hall of Fame. I'd never
Speaker 1: met him before, and I hope he gets in. But
Speaker 1: if he doesn't. Then you know what we tried. I
Speaker 1: wrote a letter to the Hall of Fame and asked
Speaker 1: the Pro Football writers to consider John Facenda. John Facenda,
Speaker 1: the voice of NFL films, should be in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Whether he gets in or not, I don't
Speaker 1: know John, never met him, don't know his family. I
Speaker 1: just know when I saw something in this case, heard something.
Speaker 1: He was the voice of the NFL, and he deserves
Speaker 1: to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Point wide receiver Calvin Johnson five Pro Bowls first time,
Speaker 1: three times, he was All Pro. Tony Besselli five Pro Bowls,
Speaker 1: three times, he was All Pro. Both retired at the
Speaker 1: age thirty. They have very similar resumes for different reasons.
Speaker 1: They retired. Bessellly had no choice. Yeah, yeah, Calvin decided
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play anymore. But hey, if he
Speaker 1: goes If Calvin goes in, good for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know him, but if he goes in, I
Speaker 1: know he was a great player. DraftKings has some prop
Speaker 1: bets mclovin and I think it's fourth quarter related prop
Speaker 1: bets that I wanted to bring to the audience's attention.
Speaker 1: These are really interesting and I have no idea which
Speaker 1: way you go? For example, which team will score more
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter? Kansas City, Tampa Bay or tie?
Speaker 1: Does that mean that the team that's winning will score
Speaker 1: more or that it's like a three touchdown game and
Speaker 1: there's garbage time. That's why it's such a hard bet. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. You know, if let's say Kansas City's up
Speaker 1: by three touchdowns and hashtag Tom leads them down to
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns and they outscore them, you know,
Speaker 1: fourteen to three, then you would lose. Here's a good one.
Speaker 1: Will the fourth quarter two minute warning happened at the
Speaker 1: two minute mark? Yes? Or no? I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 1: Do you have a data points on this one? No?
Speaker 1: I don't have any data points because there are people
Speaker 1: that track that kind of thing. I'm good, guess there
Speaker 1: right there? Oh, it usually had a minute fifty eight.
Speaker 1: That's the most common time for the two minute warning.
Speaker 1: Will the two minute warning happened at the two minute
Speaker 1: just Stevens thinking that it's pretty good? Are we all
Speaker 1: putting in ten dollars on this one? I think it's that?
Speaker 1: Or Paully's Tom Brady running beat? H oh? Yeah, Paully
Speaker 1: has the Tom Brady running. How many yards he rushes for?
Speaker 1: What is the over under on Tom Brady rushing? Oh
Speaker 1: it's big this year, Dan, It's point five yards for
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. So you if the under is zero or negative,
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going under taking the under. Yeah. Historically, Dan,
Speaker 1: you would have won five out of the last nine
Speaker 1: bets on Brady's rushing if you'd take Brady has had
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowls three yards twelve yards minus one
Speaker 1: zero zero minus three. Tough tough run there plus fifteen
Speaker 1: plus six minus two in the last Er Bowl. Both
Speaker 1: were kneel downs. But the plus fifteen was on one run,
Speaker 1: wasn't it? All his pluses were on singular run. He
Speaker 1: had a fifteen yard where they designed runs for tom
Speaker 1: at all. I saw the one against the Falcons. He starts,
Speaker 1: he breaks about eleven yards and it looks like his
Speaker 1: legs are gonna go out from under him because he's
Speaker 1: uncharted territories. You know, it's like when you have the
Speaker 1: full just born and you know, trying to stand up.
Speaker 1: You know, That's what Brady looks like sometimes when he's running. Yes, migleven,
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