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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two eighty, episode

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Speaker 1: three of Thy Stay production of by Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: American share consciousness. And it's Wednesday, March twenty second, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three as of this recording. No arrests yet. I

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Speaker 1: don't think, right, Jody, you got your eyes on the

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Speaker 1: news ticker, and I could have told you that. I

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Speaker 1: may have told you that yesterday. Yeah, I mean, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He's usually such a reliable source, yea. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien aka plump Pers. I got plumpers,

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Speaker 1: milky hit white plumpers, plumper plumpers. I got plumpers, milky

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Speaker 1: thick white plumpers. That is supposed to be thunder by

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Speaker 1: Imagine Dragons. I did my best. That is courtesy a

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Speaker 1: fighter of the night man on the discord. That is

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Speaker 1: an evil song man thunder by Imagine Dragons because it

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Speaker 1: is very catchy to the five and six year old mind,

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Speaker 1: and it is just the bitchiest. He's just like, everybody

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Speaker 1: laughed at me, but now you'll all be crying in

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Speaker 1: the nosebleeds at my concert because I am imagine dragons. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co host.

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Speaker 1: You know him from many a podcast his new podcast

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Speaker 1: with Ted and Pushkin as Good Sport. It's Jody Aberga.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back. What percentage of your day

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Speaker 1: is spent? Comamp with the little Songs? For the beginning

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Speaker 1: of this show, we have a we have a thriving

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Speaker 1: discord and they feed him and I scroll through and anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and I will find out after we

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Speaker 1: hit record, whether I know how to sing that song,

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Speaker 1: whether it's within my vocal range. Um, not a ton

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Speaker 1: of prepperation, but I do appreciate it, and there's some

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Speaker 1: real geniuses in the discord. We also bring up a

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Speaker 1: question of who gets to refer to themselves as having

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Speaker 1: a quote vocal range. That's right. If you can hit

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Speaker 1: one note, that's a range, right, that's range. Uh well, Jody.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined by two very funny comedians

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Speaker 1: who together host the podcast Blocked Party, which you're not

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Speaker 1: going to believe. This also very funny. Please welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, John Cullin and Stephan he Hey, guys, thanko,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having us On. Yeah, thank you, thanks for

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Speaker 1: doing the show. Guys, your show is very funny. You're

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Speaker 1: recently talking about an issue that I've been noticing more

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Speaker 1: and more recently, um, which is, you know, you talk

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Speaker 1: social media is getting worse. Um where the way is

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Speaker 1: Google is getting worse. I was told that things were

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Speaker 1: of late. Google is all like if you search for anything,

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Speaker 1: like an ai bought and it's just like impossible to

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Speaker 1: use now. But even like Twitter, not even Twitter, especially

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Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter, Yeah, but we're owned by Elon must Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even managed to get fucked up. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: a new thing. Yeah, it is sort of fun that

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Speaker 1: For the longest time, when Twitter was functional and kind

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Speaker 1: of a big part of my life. I kind of

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Speaker 1: but then not have to deal with any of the

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Speaker 1: everybody is complaining about. Well, this was my theory, like

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Speaker 1: people who are not familiar with Don Cherry, we'll be

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Speaker 1: shocked to hear from John's description of him that he

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Speaker 1: ended up getting canceled and said some pretty awful things air. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: terrible thing, Well he said, he said terrible things for

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Speaker 1: is truly insane. Um. The intro music, how would you

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Speaker 1: describe it, John, Um, Well, he used to put out

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Speaker 1: the clips and these videos were set to bad techno

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Speaker 1: the opening of his podcast and It starts with him

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Speaker 1: it is a homage. Yeah, all right, John Stephan, We're

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Speaker 1: Mycotic Diseases branch um, but the CDC's Micotic Diseases branches

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Speaker 1: Fox News. The reviews have started trickling in for Ben

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Speaker 1: So we're just this has been a trend on the

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Speaker 1: daily zygeist of late, but this new wave of brand

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Speaker 1: that plenty more. But first, John Stephen, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your searchest three that is reeling about you? John?

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Speaker 1: You want to kick us off? Sure? I look, you

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Speaker 1: know you said you you Jack. You've been listening to

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Speaker 1: a little bit of block Party the last few days.

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Speaker 1: And while look, I'm a pretty white guy and just

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Speaker 1: searched I think probably the most white guy thing I've

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Speaker 1: spilled about half a can of kombucha on my MacBook

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Speaker 1: Air keyboard and how I knew it was a Mac? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: a woman and a man will start kissing, and then

424
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: another man shows up, Yeah, and they sort of like, oh, like, oh,

425
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't Scotti doesn't know, you know, what is he doing?

426
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: Like he's like cheering so hard he doesn't notice his

427
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: wife is like kissing the guy on the other side

428
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: or something. Is that the fre he's coming back from

429
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: the bathroom or so. Yeah, the joke will usually be

430
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: that she is kissing like so, let's say it's at

431
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: that Canucks game kissing a guy in a Canucks Nucks

432
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: Jersey and then her husband by friend or husband will

433
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: come backward flames Jersey. Yeah, and this is good stuff.

434
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: Elaborate humiliations opposing team. I love it's funny. Those are real.

435
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: I've got a Marvel snap. What is uh? What of

436
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: the thing? Is underrated? John? Yeah? Sure, underrated. I'm sticking

437
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: sort of sports theme algorithmically themed skate videos. I'm not

438
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: a I'm not a skateboarder. I used to a skateboard

439
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: to get around a little bit, but not a huge skateboarder.

440
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: But god, I love a good skate video. Nothing better.

441
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: Just pausing on Instagram. Wow, this is a great skate video.

442
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: I love it. It's harmless most of the time, just

443
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: a great way to pass the time. You're a big

444
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: Tony Hawk pro skater player, all yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

445
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean anything. I'm just saying, I you know,

446
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: I love I just love to watch a good skate video.

447
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: I think they're underrated. I think not enough people appreciate

448
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: how hard skateboarding is and how impressive a lot of

449
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: these videos are. In my opinion, that video game did

450
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: ruin skate videos for me for a little bit, because

451
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: I was like this, these people aren't shit compared to

452
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: what I can do. And on n sixty four, I

453
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: haven't played video games since then sixty four, but have

454
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: a use, Steph, And what's something you think is underrated?

455
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: I would say goldfish crackers as like a snack for adults, Yeah,

456
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: because I think people think of goldfish crackers and they think, oh,

457
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: that's that's like a that's like a child snack, that's

458
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: for children, and you know what they would be right However, Uh,

459
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: they're just a very nice snack to have, although I

460
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: do feel like because I always get like the huge

461
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: carton of them, and you never feel worse than when

462
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: you were like elbow deep inside the carton trying to

463
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: get the goldfish at the bottom of it. I guess

464
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: you can pour it out into a bulb. I don't

465
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 1: do that. I'm just reaching in um. But just just

466
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: the regular flavored, not the because there's the goldfish ones

467
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: where there's like no flavor to it, right, just the

468
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: saltine flavor. Almost. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever

469
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: like purchased original Yeah, I think those are called original, right?

470
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: They blue box white crackers, Yes, just a disaster. They're

471
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: more like soup crackers. I guess right, like you put

472
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: them in soup. But to me, original goldfish are like

473
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: the orange ones and like the orange total right, and

474
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: they're fantastic as a sack. I think I would say underrated.

475
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: I feel like people don't talk about them when they're

476
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: talking about like best snacks. So yeah, goldfish crackers for me, Yeah,

477
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: they're actually the origin story of goldfish crackers is in

478
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: development Warner Brothers, and I think it's gonna be great. Actually,

479
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: I mean we might as well just like get right

480
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: into Ben Affleck's Air because it premiered at south By

481
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Ben Affleck called the premier the most important

482
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: night of my professional life. And the reviews are in.

483
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: They're literally all positive, like it's one hundred percent. There's

484
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: only nine reviews in I guess, but not the first

485
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: nine that came in. It's one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

486
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: And I just want to like read a description of

487
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: like from one of these reviews. Afflex successfully captures nikes

488
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: heartwarming and hilarious marketing journey while paying respectful homage to

489
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: all involved. Air is a tremendous underdog story filled with

490
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: lovable characters. Um, it's just like there's something so strange

491
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: to me about all of this, and yet like it

492
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. But it's also like to be like

493
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: the underdog journey of Nike's marketing decision to make Air

494
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: Jordan shoes. Well, it's one of those movie concepts that

495
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: feels like, oh, this is like a funnier die fake

496
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: trailer from like twenty fourteen. Yeah, but it's real, and

497
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: like it sort of reminds me because I didn't. I'm

498
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: not surprised it's getting good reviews because it has a

499
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: really good cast and I'm sure I will watch this

500
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: movie eventually. I don't think I'm going into theaters to

501
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: see it. But um, there was that McDonald's movie, The Founder, Yeah,

502
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: and that was a great movie, right, and I and

503
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: I think going into it, I was like, how is

504
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: how is this going to be good? And it's because

505
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: they made The Founder McDonald's into like a huge dick, yeah,

506
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: just a monster yeah, And so it was that was

507
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: I really enjoy that movie. So if this is I

508
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: guess this won't be the same sort of style of

509
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: movie necessarily. But if the McDonald's movie can be good,

510
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: then I don't see why Air can't be good either.

511
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: It will not be the same style. It turns out

512
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: it's like it is the It turns Phil Knight and

513
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: Sonny Vaccaro like into these underdogs who like coming up

514
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: with a marketing concept around the air Jordan's shoe, which

515
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: I totally fell for. I am gonna see this movie.

516
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: I am like, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy it.

517
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: But it's you know, this is an important myth for

518
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: my life, like my childhood. I still wear Jordan's I

519
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Love I Love Air Jordan's. This completely captured me so

520
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: like seeing what happened behind the scenes, but it's also

521
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: upsetting to me that this is this is what we've got.

522
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: It totally makes sense. These are the most powerful and

523
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: influential forces in our civilization. They of course we would

524
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: want to watch movies about them. But it's just weird.

525
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: How does it? How does it make you feel that

526
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: like the kind of big first swing at a Jordan movie? Um,

527
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: not a documentary obviously, but the movie is like this

528
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: weird kind of sideways angle in at it. Would you

529
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: Jo of sorts? No? No, I would not, because I

530
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: don't like I think that. My first question was, like, wait,

531
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: who did they get to play Michael Jordan and they

532
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: completely like cut around him, and uh, like I don't

533
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't know like about the ethics of this and

534
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: like it's but it it seems like the thesis of

535
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: the movie is like he's just this sort of like

536
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: god like entity and they're trying to like move around

537
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: him and harness. But yeah, like that that is one

538
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: of the things. One of the not uniformly positive things

539
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: somebody said was just like George gets just one word

540
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: to say, and when he's present, the film shoots and

541
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: cuts around him. It's unintentionally hilarious when in one crucial

542
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: boardroom scene, he hastily turns his head away to study

543
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: something on a wall before you can catch a proper

544
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: glimpse of which is its like like an Austin Powers opening.

545
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: They have like, you know, a tray of flowers following

546
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: his face around. But that I think that's the only

547
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: way to tell this story until like, you know, twenty

548
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: thirty years from now, when like nobody remembers what it

549
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: was like to actually watch Michael Jordan. Yeah, I mean

550
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: it is a little strange or I don't know what

551
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's something that you know, it's like

552
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: here's a story about a black athlete, one of the

553
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: first like people to really like gain some agency and

554
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: build some real capital. And the story they tell about

555
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: that is about all the like schlubby white executives surrounding him,

556
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: heroes Jody yea heroes man. But you know, I was

557
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: just scanning headlines about this, and it's like one after another,

558
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: the headlines are all like Ben Affleck talks about why

559
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan isn't in the movie, like, here's why Michael

560
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Jordan isn't. I mean, it's just going to be the

561
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: question around this movie, and Ben Affleck's I think very

562
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: carefully crafted response to it is like Jordan is so recognizable,

563
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: so steeped in the culture that like to put him

564
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: in in any way. People know who he is and

565
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: they would like ring hollow or whatever, which, you know,

566
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's probably other reasons why

567
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan isn't portrayed in the movie necessarily, though I

568
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: guess he was involved behind the scenes a little bit

569
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: and sort of at least given the blessing to the

570
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: to the film. I would be interested to know if

571
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: if John, because John famously does not watch movies yea,

572
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: so he I think he watches like one or two

573
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: movies a year. Maybe will this be on the list, John, Oh,

574
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to the theater baby more. I love the

575
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: Underdog Story and Shoe Doog of course my favorite book

576
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: of all time, and I'm really looking forward to digging in. No,

577
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: I I'm sure. Maybe why shouldn't say I'm sure I'll

578
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: see it because that's never does seem like the type

579
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: of movie you would see though, Like I mean, our

580
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: block party listeners understand that John sees like no movies,

581
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: but when he does see a movie, it's one that

582
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: you would like, never expect. So I think a couple

583
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: of months ago we were talking about movies you had seen,

584
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: and you had almost seen Up in the Air. Yeah,

585
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, maybe I'll see It's it's

586
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: very anything with air in the type. Yeah. Air is

587
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: a big Ye, the air up there are is a

588
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: big for me. Do love that pawn air I also love.

589
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: And the one thing I thought stuck out when you know,

590
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: looking at some of the the stuff around the show

591
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: was that quote that you said, Jack about Ben Affleck

592
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: saying it's the most important night of his life. That

593
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: was the funniest thing to me, because that, to me

594
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: is like the equivalent of spring training right now and oh,

595
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: he's in the best shape of his life. He put

596
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: a lot of work in this winteris are the best

597
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: shape of his life, He's going to be ready to go.

598
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: It's very similar to that. It's like, this is not

599
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: the most important night of your life been up for

600
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: you to say, but there's what was the because what if?

601
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: What if? Was the article like the the twice married

602
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck referred to this as the most special, the

603
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: most important night of my professional life. Everyone, I would

604
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: say that was probably when you won the Academy Award

605
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: and launched yourself into a yeah, yeah, I don't it's um.

606
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: It is just I think one of the we are

607
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: going to just be getting these movies now, uh, NonStop.

608
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: And it's just the the detail that Nike becomes an

609
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: underdog in this telling, like a you know, the billionaire

610
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: founder of Nike becomes an underdog, and like that's the

611
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: version we get feels like it's in it's not healthy

612
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: for the overall like body politic of very civilization when

613
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, I think movies like The Founder and The

614
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: Social Network are probably a little bit more important because

615
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: they show that like people, like they're behind the scenes

616
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: of these things that are already celebrated as triumphs. Um

617
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: are people fucking other people over? Yeah, it's like correctly

618
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: showing them as like sociopaths. Right. I feel like that's

619
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: probably not going to happen in this one if Nike

620
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: signed off on it, right, No, yeah, I think that

621
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: absolutely they're not. The inevitable conclusion of like ip Yeah

622
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: Films is going to be a movie about the like

623
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: founding of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movie franchise or something,

624
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god about all the Sony Exacts or whatever.

625
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Oh totally dead after Spider Man three and this one

626
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: man like the Underdog story. Yeah yeah, God, the movie

627
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: poster it just gonna be his like worn like baseball

628
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: cap with like a spotlight on it, you know, and

629
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: all the scenes are at Bruce Springs theme concerts with

630
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of fifty year old exacts making deals with

631
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: each other. I mean, it is just that's how people

632
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: view the American dream in general. Right. It's even like

633
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: if you are a NEPO baby or or you know,

634
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Speaker 1: the whole there was that narrative of oh, Kendall Jenner

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Speaker 1: is the first self made billionaire or whatever the hell

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Speaker 1: that that whole thing was a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, no, no, none of this is like

638
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: in a very rare case. You know, it's sort of

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: the true American dream where people come from nothing and

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Speaker 1: you know, they start these multi billion dollar companies, but

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00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: most of the time there isn't really a true underdog

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00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: in the situation. But everybody wants to believe that every

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the key sort of piece of the

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Speaker 1: American dream is, oh, I was down on my luck.

645
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I had nothing going on, and generally leaves out the

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Speaker 1: part where even if you did come from nothing, um,

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00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: you stepped on as many heads as possible on the

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00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: way to the top. That's the only way to get there.

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00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: You know, it always has to be this. Oh, it

650
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: was just such a lovable person. You know, my dad

651
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't own an Emerald, mind, he just owned several shares

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00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: in it. Okay, so let Brad's get this straight. So

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Speaker 1: I never even saw an Emerald growing up. Yeah, but yeah,

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00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: Ceo biography, there's there are all these ways that success

655
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: in you know, capitalism and the Western world gets laundered

656
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: from being you know what, I think it was. Jody's

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00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: uh partner, Malcolm Gladwell wrote wrote, uh uh yeah, um,

658
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: but he he did like a deep dive into like

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00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: comparing the CEO biographies and the stories of how people

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: become the richest humans on the planet with the reality.

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00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: And I bring this up all the time, but I

662
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: think it's one of the most important and kind of

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00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: details about our culture that like gets left out is

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00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: like all of them did, like found a thing they

665
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: could exploit and exploited it over and over and over again,

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00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Like it was just a very boring transactional predatory thing.

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00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: Like all you become unreasonably wealthy by being like a

668
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: very successful predator and praying perfect chance. I'm just saying, yeah, um.

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Speaker 1: But the like so that there is already this whole

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Speaker 1: body of you know, like bookstores are filled with the

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Speaker 1: CEO biographies revisionist histories where like everybody told them they

672
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: couldn't do it, and they like came in and like

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00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: cowboyd their way through the boardroom. And I feel like

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00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: we should hope for, you know, because these brand movies

675
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: are coming, we should we should hope for versions that

676
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: are like The Founder, which somehow guy made and also

677
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: told a story that was critical of like the founder

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Speaker 1: of McDonald's and didn't have to change the name of

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Speaker 1: the company. So did you see did you read The Founder?

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00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: I did not know. Yeah, So I think it's part

681
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: of it is like The Founder is written by Ray Croc,

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00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: and he kind of says like, yeah, I stole it

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00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: from the McDonald brothers, and I did that, Like wow,

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Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why like it. It's short,

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00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: it's only like one hundred and fifty or two hundred pages,

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00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: and he is actually very honest. I mean, obviously there's

687
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: some revisionist stuff in there, but as far as like

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00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: a CEO autobiography or memoir goes, it is found the

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00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: honest one. Yeah, exactly where he you know, I think

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00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: that's how that one maybe got made was Ray Croc

691
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: was pretty honest about like, yeah, the McDonald brothers were

692
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: kind of whimps, and so I just like, yeah, I'm

693
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Speaker 1: a big psycho. Yeah it rocks. I'm a big psycho.

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00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: They were like kind of nice guys, and that was

695
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: you can't succeed in business being a nice guy. So

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00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, why don't I a psycho and

697
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: take this over and I cut them out of the deal.

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00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: No problem, because huge houses and bingo bengo. There you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to that Fox News story. We'll talk about

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00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: the deadly strain of fungus that is about to turn

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00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: you on to zombies. We'll be right back, and we're back.

703
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: And a Fox News producer named Abbe Grossberg, who worked

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Speaker 1: with both Maria bartar Romo and Tucker Carlson the you

705
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: know what a one to what a combo? Yeah, just

706
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: filed two lawsuits against the channel, alleging that their legal

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Speaker 1: team engaged in wrongful conduct while preparing her for her

708
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Speaker 1: deposition in the Dominion case, the case that's being brought

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Speaker 1: against them for saying that the election was stolen and

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00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: that dominion voting machines were faulty or at least like

711
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: helping perpetuate that. The allegations are that Fox's lawyers coached

712
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Speaker 1: her to avoid mentioning prominent male executives and on air

713
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: talent to protect them from any blame while effectively throwing

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Speaker 1: herself under the bus, and they pressured her to downplay

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Speaker 1: a text exchange with the senior vice president of Weekend

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Speaker 1: News in which he instructed her in regards to a

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00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: segment with Rudy Giuliani, there will be no fact checking today.

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Speaker 1: There's just so much good ship coming from the dominion

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Speaker 1: thing like, yeah, the texts from Tucker Carlson being like

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Speaker 1: Trump is a disaster, Like we all know this. This

721
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: is all such bullshit, like everything that we're having to

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00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: repeat on air as such bullshit. And then I love

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Speaker 1: the ones where they're talking they're like making fun of

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00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: their listeners and viewers, where are like, oh, boy, our

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00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: viewers for are a bunch of stupid, ignorant hogs that

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00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: we hate lot. Yeah, And like, I think the way

727
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: around that is to do just what like me and

728
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: John do on the podcast is just like say that

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00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: explicitly at the top of every show, just to get

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Speaker 1: it out of the way. Basically we respect that more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's how we start every show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: slop in the trough. Yeah, there you go. I was

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Speaker 1: struck by how much they would couch their decision making

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Speaker 1: in the context of it's what our viewers expect, right,

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Speaker 1: And there was that little that was that week after

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Speaker 1: the election where Fox had you know, called Arizona and

737
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: sort of like actually proclaimed that Biden probably are actually one.

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Speaker 1: And they started losing viewers to Newsmax. And it was

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00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: a story that Fox executives told themselves, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it was like, oh, our listeners are leaving us and

741
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: they're going to Newsmax. And the reason they're going to

742
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: newsmaxes because Newsmax is telling them lies about how the

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00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: selection was stolen. And so we owe it to our viewers.

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00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: It's like this really weird logic and like almost a cover,

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00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, that they're giving themselves. We owe it to

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00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: our viewers to embrace these lies because it's and it's

747
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, I mean, obviously there's so

748
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: many things that are broken about that logic, but it

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Speaker 1: was just a friend journalism, I think, yeah, yeah, journalist journalism,

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Speaker 1: you know. But you but that's how you hear politicians

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00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: talk too, right. Um, they say like I can do

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00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: whatever I want to wash in DC, and I could

753
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: stand up on my principles. Then when I go back

754
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: to my constituents, all they want to talk about as

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00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's laptop. So I owe it to my constituents,

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Speaker 1: you know. And it's just this like really messed up

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00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: um inversion of that, like you know, in theory, which

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00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: should be a pretty like honorable motivation. It's also wildly

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00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: disingenuous of them to claim like Web Newsmax is pushing

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Speaker 1: it is forcing our hand when they've been like Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson's producers listened to the most right wing like talk

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Speaker 1: radio just you know, the equivalent of like Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast am of like right wing conspiracy theories and Alex

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Speaker 1: Jones that that was actually very unfair to Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast AM. I shouldn't I shouldn't have said that, but

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Speaker 1: like you know, their level of fact checking, uh, and

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Speaker 1: they listen to that and let that lead like their editorial,

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Speaker 1: you know, agenda is just like whatever the craziest shit

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Speaker 1: is that's resonating with people, and they've been doing that

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Speaker 1: from Jump. Well, yeah, Tucker Carlson talked about like ratings.

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00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: Most of the texts were not about news, they were

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00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: about this is killing our ratings. Yeah. Yeah, you'll see

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00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: it with like insane like qan on people on Twitter

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00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: where they'll say at this like they're so far gone

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00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: that they'll be like, oh, news Max and Fox News

776
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: have gone woke, like yeah, because because they're not feeding

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Speaker 1: them the exact conspiracy theories they want to hear. And

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Speaker 1: it's just like, I mean, you can never please these people.

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00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to just go more and more far right,

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Speaker 1: which I guess is sort of what they're doing anyway.

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Speaker 1: But um, it's it's just so funny to see people

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Speaker 1: completely straight faced thinking that because Newsmax had to like

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Speaker 1: legally apologize for something that they have now gone woke.

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Speaker 1: Um it's just like so insane to me to see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we just got a quote yesterday from I think

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Speaker 1: it was Kevin McCarthy that Biden is siding with woke

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Speaker 1: Wall Street. So that's you know, the other uh fully

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Speaker 1: woke out institution is Wall Street. Yeah, yeah, the damn

789
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: stock markets go and woke? What are they over there?

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Speaker 1: That's right, you know. I mean one of the things

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Speaker 1: that just there's so many things in this revelation which

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00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: I actually think is like going to really hurt Fox.

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Speaker 1: I mean I actually think like this is this might

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Speaker 1: be a turning point momentum, both financially but just in

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Speaker 1: the public kind of imagination. You overall lawsuit or the

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Speaker 1: specific revelations in this uh suit that she's bringing. Oh

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00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: not this specific soup, but the overall kind of like

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Speaker 1: that story. Yeah, yeah, the story that's that's coming out

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Speaker 1: about Fox that you know, I think most people just

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00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: kind of knew, have known for a long time, but nevertheless, um,

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00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: it's out there and in a way that I think

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Speaker 1: is actually seeping through. But you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: things that also just strikes me, and I think about

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00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: this too with like Trump World as well, it's like

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00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: these people spend so much time like putting out fires,

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00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: squabbling with each other, like you know, doing hush payments,

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Speaker 1: like like coaching people on how to talk to lawyers

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Speaker 1: and like dealing with it. And I'm just like, when

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Speaker 1: do you have time to do because I've worked at

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Speaker 1: a news organization and like it's a lot of work

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Speaker 1: just to do the thing that goes on TV and

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00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: then I do all this other work of like being sketchy.

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Speaker 1: It's just I just part of me just marvels that

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Speaker 1: kind of like when do they have the time to

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Speaker 1: do all this chicanery behind the scenes. So you're coming

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00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: away more impressed than anything. I think. I think they're

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Speaker 1: good producers, think they're at some level. I mean the juggling.

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Speaker 1: Juggling is impressive. It's true. UM, just some other details

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Speaker 1: from this report again by a Fox News employee, UM,

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Speaker 1: who was of course immediately countersued and put on administrative leave.

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Speaker 1: But as of you know what, while we're talking, she's

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Speaker 1: still a Fox News employee. UM that Tucker Carlson's offices

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Speaker 1: featured large pictures of Nancy Pelosi wearing a plunging swimsuit.

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Speaker 1: The staff casually makes anti semitic and misogynistic comments. Mister

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Speaker 1: Carlson's staff held a mock debate about whether they would

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Speaker 1: prefer to have sex with Miss Dixon or her Democratic opponent,

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Speaker 1: Governor Gretchen Whitmer, and that so like there's this detail

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Speaker 1: of like her first full day on the job working

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Speaker 1: for Tucker Carlson discovered that the Manhattan workspace was decorated

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Speaker 1: with the Pelosi picture. Then the next day, Justin Wells,

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Speaker 1: mister Carlson's top producer, called her into his office and

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Speaker 1: asked her whether Miss ms Bardaroma was having a sexual

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Speaker 1: relationship with the House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy. That was

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Speaker 1: day two of very healthy. Yeah, it sounds cool as hell.

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Speaker 1: And look, I don't want to be a pure want

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Speaker 1: to be a third Fox News. But isn't every swimsuit

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Speaker 1: of plunging swimsuit anyway, right, plunging into the pool? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have many many a plunge John. They repeat that

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Speaker 1: line multiple times in that and I know I like

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Speaker 1: the idea of a plunging swimsuit. Yeah, thats just that

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Speaker 1: wording got got approved. Um yeah. But then when she

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Speaker 1: complained about being harassed by male producers, HR told her

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Speaker 1: that she was not performing her duties. Um so yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's in some level, it's kind of what you would

845
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Speaker 1: expect from Fox News, but it's still horrifying to see

846
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Speaker 1: it in detail, like what would it actually looks like

847
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Nobody likes to see how the sausage

848
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Speaker 1: gets made, but you have to be impressed by their

849
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: ability to just juggle it all. As Jody Abrigant can

850
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Speaker 1: be quoted as saying, I can't wait to see Dominion

851
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: in theaters March right, starring Ben Affley. I mean that

852
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: there already was that Fox News bombshell. Yeah, all of

853
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: the details that I've learned from the various like dominion

854
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Speaker 1: reporting and you know, reporting on on the lawsuit is

855
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: like that movie must have had to cut so many

856
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Speaker 1: details for just being like two over the top, because yeah,

857
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: they still made it seem like there wasn't out in

858
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Speaker 1: the open, just you know, uh, these sorts of things happening,

859
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: all right. So a deadly fungus is supposedly you know,

860
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: it is trending on Google yesterday. Transition. I well, I

861
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: do just want to let you know that increasing number

862
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: of fungus samples resistant to the common treatments for it

863
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: are are appearing. I don't know. I tend to think

864
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: that when a threat so perfectly matches a pop culture

865
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: event that recently was incredibly popular, to be skeptical. Um

866
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: so um. I have a less popular opinion that Jeffrey

867
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: Dahmer never ate anybody, um, because he was arrested after

868
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: Silence of the Lambs came out, and I think he

869
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: was just an alcoholic who didn't clean up of his murder.

870
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Love this theory. I love that you voluntarily wedge that

871
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: in with no real hook. This is a great event

872
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: that you're about here, new deadly fus. Yeah, other news,

873
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer did he really eat anybody? Did he? I

874
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: don't know. It's a theory. These are John level. John

875
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: is very segus too. So well, you guys have a

876
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: nice little song for reference, Yeah, to reference your amazing seguys. Yeah,

877
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Speaker 1: if you just say the segue is good, it's a

878
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: good segue. Yeah, it's But anyway, the other details that

879
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Speaker 1: leading me to think this might not be something that

880
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: everybody needs to worry about. Do check your strawberries though

881
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: there was a strawberry recall. We we talked about that

882
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: on yesterday's Trending Frozen strawberries are might give you pepe,

883
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: So definitely everybody check that out. I think I saw

884
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: something about that on John's Gonna Hate This. But one

885
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: of my favorite websites it's called I Was Poisoned dot

886
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: com and it's I don't know if you guys know

887
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: about it. It's like a crowdsourced website where people can

888
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: post about if they got food poisoning and where they

889
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: think they got it from. Wow, And it's like very

890
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: useful on its face, but also sometimes people will it's

891
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: not it's not useful adults, it's somewhat useful. Maybe gonna

892
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Speaker 1: eat KFC tonight, I should check out I was poison

893
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: dot com to see if he's got Yeah, it's it's

894
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: worth checking out. But what's really funny about it is

895
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: that occasionally people will upload just like the nastiest picture

896
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: you've ever seen of like the end result of their

897
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: food poisoning, and it's like, we would believe you if

898
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: you just said you pute, like we didn't need to

899
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah. Um, So it's a very it's a

900
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: very good website. I really like it. But John John

901
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: hates it. Someone that did that have any relation to

902
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: the sort of help a thing or No, you were

903
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: just kind of doing a jack. I think the strawberry

904
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: stuff they post stuff about, like, yeah, exactly, So it

905
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: is they mixed in real news with just diarrhea and

906
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: vomit pictures, which is actually a pretty good metaphor for

907
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: our podcast as well. Um, anyways, it's not it's not new.

908
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: The fungus isn't new. The numbers are the result of

909
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: the pandemic. And you know, with a lot of attention

910
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: from the medical community being paid to screening for COVID,

911
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: less emphasis was put on screening for this. But it's

912
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: a it's a thing that they've known about. We're worried

913
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: about this for a long time and have an eye

914
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: on so just in case anybody is out there concerned

915
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: that the Last of Us is about to happen to them. Uh,

916
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It feels like it's just trying to get

917
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: you to click on an article. FYI see the last

918
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: of Us Pedro Pascal boy. I hope that happens. Thank you, amen, John,

919
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal will still exist whether or not there's like

920
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: a fungus infection going around the world. You don't know, Okay,

921
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: fair enough? Yeah, but will he escort me around while

922
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: I act like a little baby? So yeah, that's a

923
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: good point right there. Yeah, good point. Yeah, Thank you,

924
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: John Stephan. Such a pleasure having you on the show.

925
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

926
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having us the last As

927
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Speaker 1: you referenced off the top of the show. We have

928
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Speaker 1: a podcast called The Blocked Party where we bring on

929
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: a guest every week to talk about a time they

930
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: were blocked on social media. We've had some some great

931
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: guests on the show recently and in the past, Tony Hawk,

932
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: Nicky Glazer. You talked about Emily Heller before we got

933
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: on air. There's some great episodes there. You can check

934
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Speaker 1: you out drill on right. You've had him on a

935
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: few times show a few times we've had some weird

936
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: Twitter guys on the show, and he does look like

937
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: a wrinkled Jack Nicholson and for kind of wild. Yeah,

938
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 1: So you can check that out wherever you get your pods.

939
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: And I also have a podcast about new metal. You know,

940
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: and I know the Daily Zeitgeist fans are huge morn

941
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: at Limp Biscuit people. It's a monthly podcast me and

942
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: and Brian Quinnby, formerly of street Fight Radio and now

943
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: of the podcast Guys. We review a yeah, a classic

944
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: new metal album every month. People seem to like it.

945
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: That one's fun too. Block Party you can check out

946
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: at block Party pod on Twitter and the podcast is

947
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: at the pod underscore cast and we spell cast with

948
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Speaker 1: a K. Yeah, yeah of course. Yeah. And I have

949
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: a Twitch stream we stream nightly. It's with Jesse Farrar

950
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: from your Kickstarter sucks if you're familiar with that podcast,

951
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: and it's called The Go Off Kings Twitch dot tv

952
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: slash Go Off Kings. Nice. And is there a tweet

953
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: or work of media, probably social media that you guys

954
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: have been enjoying. I've been watching the New Party Down

955
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: season and it is fantastic. They did not lose a

956
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: single step. Um, and I've been I've been really enjoying it.

957
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: I've rewatched the first two seasons to kind of get

958
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: ready for this one. Um, and it's it's great, just

959
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: a very funny show. Yeah back and I started watching

960
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: the New Party Down last night. It's I would actually

961
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: argue it's better. I think that's I think they've figured

962
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: really good joke tone a little bit better in this

963
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: new season. Very good. Um. I was gonna be that

964
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: guy and share a tweet that I did myself because

965
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: it's from the podcasts Patreon, so it's not actually I

966
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: was just sharing a story, but we got basically the

967
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: most unhinged Patreon message I've ever received, and I've I've

968
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: ever seen. Uh And so I figured your listeners might

969
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: like it and I would share it with you. So

970
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: someone to keep in mind, someone donated to our patreon,

971
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: so they paid us to send this message. Um, I

972
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: haven't heard one second of your podcast. It's a great

973
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: way to start, greatly to start a message to someone.

974
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: I'n't heard one second of your podcast, but I signed

975
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: up for your Patreon because I feel like I need

976
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: to be involved in a new metal apologist discussion. Let

977
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: me be frank. New metal was the most artistically bankrupt, idiotic, cynical,

978
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: and probably toxic genre in music history. It really sucks,

979
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: and this is we have a four year podcast talking

980
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: about this genre. I would like to offer my assistance

981
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: and expertise on an episode dedicated to metal bands that

982
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 1: briefly became new metal. I'm thinking Slayer's Stain of Mind,

983
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: Anthrax's Inside Out, Machine Heads, the purd Red. I'll even

984
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: talk about the talent load and reload, although in retrospect

985
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: those seem less like a cynical catch in and more

986
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: like James Hetfield's less than stellar ability to copy his

987
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: newfound favorite bands. Anyway, while I will never agree with

988
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: someone who concludes that Limp Biscuit was ever pretty good,

989
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: I really want to have this conversation. Thanks, and so

990
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: I replied to that by saying, Unfortunately, we do think

991
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: Limp Biscuit is one of the best bands ever, so

992
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that convo will work out. Thank you

993
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: for thinking of us, though, and then he replied, um,

994
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: do you understand that you are objectively incorrect? Try listening

995
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: to Limp Biscuit to find out again. We have covered

996
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: five Limp Biscuit album show already and the show is

997
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: the literal first episode of the show is about Limp Biscuit.

998
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: And then he stopped donating to the show. And when

999
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: you stopped donating on Patreon, you have the option to

1000
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: fill out an exit survey, and his comment on the

1001
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: exit survey was, I thought these guys wouldn't be morons

1002
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: who actually liked the two of us discuss. Oh, well,

1003
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: right there. Maybe he stopped contributing because he thought it

1004
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: might be a conflict because once you guys hired him

1005
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: to do the coverage that he was advertising that that

1006
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: could do. Did you say this person submitted this comment

1007
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Speaker 1: like anonymously or like could you have even no, I

1008
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Speaker 1: see who it was? You out their name? They submitted

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Speaker 1: under a name, and it's a fairly common like it

1010
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Speaker 1: wouldn't there would be options like it wasn't a sort

1011
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Speaker 1: of you know, I would imagine there's you're probably the

1012
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: only joke and like it. You know, it wasn't that

1013
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: type of It was common first name, common last name.

1014
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Speaker 1: But there is an like a sort of bit part

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00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: actor that has that name, and I looked at their

1016
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Twitter and they do kind of tweet like that, So mind,

1017
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Speaker 1: I'm sort of hoping that that's who it is. And

1018
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys the name off air so you

1019
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: can also amazing. Oh yeah, Jody, pleasure having you. Thank

1020
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: you so much for listening today. Where can people find you?

1021
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Um, well,

1022
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: not much has changed since yesterday, so I you know,

1023
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: I haven't made a new podcast since yesterday, so um,

1024
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: but people can listen to good Sport wherever you get

1025
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: your podcast. Als will have this Radiotopia history show this

1026
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: day in political History. People can check that out. And yes,

1027
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: since yesterday, what have I consumes? What if I? Um, actually,

1028
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'll recommend. I'll recommend this app that

1029
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: I really love and I do a little work with

1030
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: them Photosclosure. But it's called Hark and it's a like

1031
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: a podcast discovery app, and it solves something that I

1032
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: certainly have always felt, which is like feeling very overwhelmed

1033
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: by podcasts. And what they do is they take little

1034
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: snippets from a bunch of different shows and make little

1035
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,959
Speaker 1: playlists out of them. And so it's a great way

1036
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: to get a sense of a bunch of different shows,

1037
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Speaker 1: and then often I find myself saying, oh okay, I

1038
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: have a sense of that that's not for me, or

1039
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: oh wow, I can you know, find out find a

1040
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: new podcast. So it's it's hark uh, it's it's actually

1041
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: great and um they're nice people and I'm I'm into

1042
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Speaker 1: what they're up to amazing. Don't use that app to

1043
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: find podcasts besides this one. This is the only thing.

1044
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: It's just a direct link. You open the app, it

1045
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: just goes daily. I feel like I do. I do

1046
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: really like Locked Party. I highly recommend that. I also

1047
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: just James Urbaniac tweeted that Ron de Santis is the

1048
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: same age as Jason biggs um and I'm having a

1049
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: hard time with that. But I do love a good

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Speaker 1: blank as the same age as blank. Uh. Not that

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Speaker 1: one got me. You can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: dot com, where we post our episode and our footnotes,

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Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked

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Speaker 1: about in today's episode as well as a song. Usually

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Speaker 1: super producer Justin is out, Um, super producer Brian, is

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Speaker 1: there a song that you think our listeners might enjoy? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So this song is by Elle Michelle's Affair featuring Bobby Arosa.

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Speaker 1: It's called Stack a Deck and it's just what I've

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Speaker 1: been hooked on for the last like two three days.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like m like a funky ballad. I guess.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a love song and a lot of card game metaphors. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about card games earlier, right, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: is it? Is it specifically Marvel snap metaphors? Well, you'll

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Speaker 1: just have to listen to finals. Yeah, I guess you will,

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Speaker 1: all right. We will link off to that in the footnote.

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to

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Speaker 1: tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you all

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Speaker 1: then Bye.