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Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier about your spending and like you're very

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Speaker 1: fiscally responsible, responsible, you're very conscious of what you spend,

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Speaker 1: spend it on and how much you're spending.

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Speaker 2: Have you always been like always?

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Speaker 3: You got to remember I stayed at the stadium in

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Speaker 3: the first two years. I didn't want to spend no money. Right,

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Speaker 3: what's the point?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why you?

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Speaker 3: Why are you telling Marvin, Marvin gonna come third year?

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Speaker 3: Why are you telling me go rent a house, Go

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Speaker 3: buy a house, go rent a condo? When everything I

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Speaker 3: need is right here in the facility there, Paul Brown, showers, cafeteria, TV, couch,

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Speaker 3: gaming system.

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Speaker 2: What's the point? What's the point?

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Speaker 5: And I was so locked in it.

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Speaker 3: Really it wasn't about having my own space and having

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Speaker 3: women bring somebody for what I'm locked in. I'm a

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Speaker 3: rookie your time. They for what they for what I

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Speaker 3: needed that one year locking catch the rhythm. My second year,

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Speaker 3: I caught the rhythm.

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Speaker 2: I caught the rhythm of the game.

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Speaker 3: I felt like, Okay, I got it now, because I.

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Speaker 1: Think I think a third year I came and I

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Speaker 1: did a sit down with you in your place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at that point, Okay, I got it now.

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Speaker 5: I was good.

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Speaker 3: And that's when Marvin came in and also said, now

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Speaker 3: it's time for you to be Resumen gets your own place.

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Speaker 3: So listen, I've moved right down the street, one light

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Speaker 3: of place. I'll never forget one little bedroom.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that you're fiscally responsible. Is there anything that

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Speaker 1: you purchase you like? I wish you hadn't done that.

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Speaker 1: That was the waste of my effing money.

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Speaker 3: Probably some of the cars, maybe in year four, but it.

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Speaker 2: All those don't you have?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the high end vehicles, but I in purchase at

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Speaker 3: least everything, Bugatti, Ferrari.

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Speaker 5: I did it.

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Speaker 6: I did it all right.

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Speaker 3: But the funny thing about it is is I got

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Speaker 3: to a point in my career and I wish people

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Speaker 3: athletes more so. If you can get to a point

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Speaker 3: of your career where your name becomes bigger than anything

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Speaker 3: you can purchase, there's your value. Wow, my name itself,

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Speaker 3: o Cho single at one point, even still to this day,

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Speaker 3: is bigger than Why am I driving a Ferrari? Why

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Speaker 2: And I'm oho.

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Speaker 3: We talk about jewelry and watches and chains, but.

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Speaker 2: You already had. But see this thing you already had.

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Speaker 1: It's even for you to do that now, Ocho, because

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Speaker 1: you had the jury, you had.

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Speaker 3: The no no, no no no. Never bought real anything

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Speaker 3: when I was playing. Never What was the point I went.

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Speaker 2: To Clare's.

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Speaker 5: Yes? For what?

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Speaker 3: What am I doing it for? The women don't deal

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Speaker 3: with you anyway because of who you are, right, and

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Speaker 3: then the other women who are really doing their homework,

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Speaker 3: don't google how much you're making already? Why am I

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Speaker 3: buying a fifty thousand dollars watch eighty thousand dollar?

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Speaker 2: Watch?

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Speaker 3: What time is it real?

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Speaker 2: Quick?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 2: It's twenty minutes before?

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Speaker 3: How much that cost me?

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Speaker 2: They cast you nothing?

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Speaker 3: This time is free? So what I'm paying for?

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Speaker 2: A fuck?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: For what?

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Speaker 2: I'm o?

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Speaker 3: Cho, what's the point?

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Speaker 3: There's nothing I can buy that's bigger than my name alone?

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Speaker 3: So it made no sense. But everybody's caught up an

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Speaker 3: image and looking a certain way and being rich. It's

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Speaker 2: How do you?

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Speaker 4: How do you.

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Speaker 1: Express that to your kids? When they know who you are,

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Speaker 3: That's the hard part is getting them to have that

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Speaker 3: Well that's real, right, Anything I person for her is

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Speaker 3: So the kids, I allow them to do the designer

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Speaker 3: and the nice stuff because I don't say what eighty

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Speaker 3: I have stuff coming in?

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Speaker 2: Are ready?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, still coming in? Thank you, Dougie, you know. And

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Speaker 3: so life is good because I was able to sustain

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Speaker 3: I was playing. And life is still gonna good. So

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Speaker 3: I allow the kids to enjoy, but I need them

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Speaker 2: They gotta get out day pay roll. You had to

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Speaker 3: But for right now, I will always be for the

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Speaker 3: be there for them no matter what they want. Right,

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Speaker 3: as long as you don't try to live a lifestyle

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Speaker 3: that you you know you can't afford, right, you can't,

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Speaker 3: you can't, you can't do that, I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 3: enjoy yourself now, right.

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Speaker 2: You you went for viral for wearing the same outfit

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Speaker 2: on the trip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can I think I heard you packed you with

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Speaker 1: you Maybe it was soccer and you packed like three

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's all you need, Like a couple of pair of

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Speaker 3: I took all blended family, right. We all went to

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Speaker 3: the Bahamas for New Years. Okay, so the kids, I know,

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Speaker 3: they like to look nice, you know young kids these days. Man, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna all go to a mirry. So I took

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Speaker 3: all the kids to Mirry, all of them. Everybody got outfit,

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Speaker 3: everybody got shoes. I got my live fit price tag.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three thousand, twenty three thousand. Remember it's eight of

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Speaker 3: us nine. Mary ain't marry, ain't cheap all up.

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Speaker 2: So what did they put back?

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Speaker 3: I ain't put nothing back. This is the one time thing.

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Speaker 3: It's the holidays. Yeah, twenty three thousands, so boom, okay,

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Speaker 2: I took me a shower.

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Speaker 3: I took me a shower each day, changed underwear, put

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Speaker 5: You know what I pay for this.

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Speaker 3: I don't care who's seen me. So I made my

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Speaker 5: Let me give you an under a, let.

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Speaker 2: You understand why. And I always do that all the time.

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Speaker 3: I shop at eighth and them. Look this, this whole outfit.

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Speaker 3: This cost me sixty dollars. It's Urban Outfitters and it's

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Speaker 3: some dickies that's cut off. Like I'm a skateboarder. I

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Speaker 5: I don't skate, but I look good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's your that's your whole thing. And I

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Speaker 4: You can't.

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Speaker 3: The people on the outside that might be new to

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Speaker 3: I've been this way to pass twenty twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna let society shape out your sinkles

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Speaker 3: Never never, I never never been that way because I

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Speaker 3: don't need validations from nobody on the outside. Never have,

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Speaker 3: And that's the.

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Speaker 2: That's validation, you straight you validation that dad, we're.

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Speaker 3: Good and fat, and some of the time they make

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Speaker 3: you know. But that's another downfall for us, right, that's

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Speaker 3: another downfall in society. We always need validation exceptance from others.

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Speaker 1: If commission Goodell, let you went to the rookie symposium.

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Speaker 2: And let you talk two, he needs to let me. Well,

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Speaker 2: hopefully they're watching this.

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Speaker 5: I need to do I.

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Speaker 3: Got Roger speed out. I got him more speed out.

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Speaker 3: I need to do that.

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Speaker 2: About financial literacy, yes, but.

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Speaker 3: The problem is is it's going to go in one

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Speaker 3: getting in il deals. Right, You got everybody your ear.

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Speaker 3: You don't know who to tell no to. You got

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Speaker 3: all these investment people. How many horror stories there are

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Speaker 2: Boat just going through a issue twelve point seven?

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Speaker 3: I saw that going out of his account because the

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Speaker 3: investment Listen, the best investment person is yourself.

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Speaker 2: Do your homework.

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Speaker 3: You don't need all these people because if they knew

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Speaker 3: name one investment person as in the position and is

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Speaker 3: And you haven't made it yet to give me an

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Speaker 3: example of what I should do. Nah, Man, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that we put it. We put our

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Speaker 1: You say you interned at Morgan Stanley, was it was

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Speaker 1: it of the most important that you go understand you

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Speaker 1: knew what money was. But now that I have it,

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Speaker 1: how do I keep it? And that's what I always

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Speaker 3: And the funny part about it is people social media. Well,

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Speaker 3: if I spend this bag, i'mna just go make it back.

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Speaker 3: Ain't like you think people they think the cure and

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Speaker 3: the problem to fix for the problem is will give

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Speaker 3: me my money. I'm gonna be all right. But the

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Speaker 3: more you make, the more you spend. If you have

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Speaker 3: no discipline and no structure, yes, absolutely, every time, yes,

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Speaker 3: every time, Well just give me more and more. No,

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Speaker 3: the more you get, the more you're gonna spend. And

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Speaker 3: people ain't gonna listen because we are caught up in

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Speaker 3: looking a certain way, living a certain way, trying to

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Speaker 3: appease others who don't really care nothing about you, just

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Speaker 2: Oh I got it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Well shit, I got it too, and I had

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Speaker 3: it for almost thirty years.

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Speaker 1: So has that is that in us? Or is that

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Speaker 1: social media? Because I look at social media, I'm like, well, damn,

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Speaker 1: that might need to give me another job or two

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Speaker 1: because how he's like, she got how listen?

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Speaker 3: We can't compete with people that's scamming and doing fraud. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we can't do that.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't, can't. We can't do that. We can't

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: There are very few people that can sustain that lifestyle

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Speaker 2: Eras of rappers.

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Speaker 3: Think about the era before before us, everybody was flashy,

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Speaker 3: I ain't flying private, Spirit, Dougie, what I fly, Douggie?

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Speaker 2: I wanted this. I just want to suit Bowl forty nine.

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Speaker 7: Oh shit, Oh you get right?

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Speaker 2: Russ coming there?

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Speaker 1: One knee, cause russill get down on one knee with

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, even as he's calling the

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Speaker 7: On sledge halber, what's handed.

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Speaker 2: And we got a time out. So if we don't

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Speaker 1: If we don't get it on this first second down,

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Speaker 7: What was handed? Man? The look on the look on

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Speaker 5: What the fuck?

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Speaker 1: So you didn't know what you didn't know? You didn't

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Speaker 7: Off man because they seeing me on the flat yeah way, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Ain't tackling you one on. What what the fuck going?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: What's happened to see?

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Speaker 7: No ball coming on?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 7: And see them upfuckers? Jumping up and down and cheering

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Speaker 7: like shit, he threw a pick and at that time,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: coming on the field. God, so was it entery interaction?

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Speaker 1: Did anybody say anything to the defense? Say, man, what

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Speaker 1: the MP was that?

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Speaker 2: Who called that?

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Speaker 5: Bull?

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Speaker 2: Jyy that?

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Speaker 7: We look back at it. You see everybody, you know,

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Speaker 7: then as I'm going back to the sideline, uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: like I get him next time.

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Speaker 2: Whoa ho whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

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Speaker 7: And as I'm as I hear the ship, I don't

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Speaker 4: Space what.

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Speaker 7: And at that point, ship ship, I go to the

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on hold, on.

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Speaker 7: Beebo, see all the ship going on. I don't see

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Speaker 2: Where they're getting scuffling and the pushing the shoven. You

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Speaker 7: I'm in another fucking uh.

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Speaker 2: You in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: I'm in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: It was Arizona. I think I ran in the UH

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Speaker 6: Hey, what's up man?

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Speaker 7: Looking like?

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Speaker 2: Don't you got a game?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: That ship over called my mama and UH called the family. Hey,

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Speaker 7: come on, we're back to the spot. All right, go

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Speaker 7: in there, get dressed, go shower, get dressed. And as

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Speaker 7: I'm coming out, now you see everybody else coming in.

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Speaker 7: I mean I let you. I'll let y'all when you

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Speaker 7: get back to the.

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Speaker 1: Why why didn't they give you that ball? Why did

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Speaker 1: Darryl Beba call a pass play? Why did put Carroll

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Speaker 1: not overrule it? What happened? Did they not want you

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Speaker 1: to get that MVP?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 7: I have no idea, And from the understanding I got

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Speaker 7: is nobody taken accountability for it. Neither one of them.

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Speaker 7: They put it off on each other. So I don't know, Okay,

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Speaker 7: I don't know what the fuck.

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Speaker 1: Hold on Russ put it off on Pete, Pete put

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Speaker 7: NA coordinator and head coach. They passed it back to

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Speaker 7: So I don't know how I played. But at the

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Speaker 7: end of the day, yeah, that shit was you know,

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Speaker 7: that shit were painful because you gotta think, like, no

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Speaker 7: matter what in any sport, you play what you do,

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Speaker 7: especially now running back saying okay, you when you a

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Speaker 7: little jit, you set up you know, pillow here, pillow here,

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Speaker 7: that the end of the game. One more play, uh uh?

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Speaker 7: The quarterback handing the ball off the marshan he jumping

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Speaker 7: the zone touch that you all the the Oapen readers

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Speaker 7: win the Super Bowl. I'm a ready fan from Oakland, California.

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Speaker 7: So you know, you put it together, You put that

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Speaker 7: that so many times. So not only did they take

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Speaker 7: a you know, the moment away from the moment they

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Speaker 7: took a dream.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's a I guess say that's one in

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Speaker 7: a lifetime situation.

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Speaker 2: Have you gotten over it?

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Speaker 7: Uh, To be honest with you now, now that you

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Speaker 7: we could have been doing this again next year, next year,

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Speaker 7: and there's no telling, like, you know, you took a

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Speaker 7: I mean? Because then you you know, you in position

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Speaker 7: to a we win two super Bowls, maybe y'all don't

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Speaker 7: want to be the highest paid corner or the highest

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Speaker 7: cheese through the whole team. So we could bring everybody

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Speaker 7: let's see what we could get out of it. So,

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, not only do you know you

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Speaker 7: dumbest call in football history. And then I mean, you know,

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Speaker 7: that I'm gonna get it while.

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Speaker 2: They bunny the ball? That is that the question that

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Speaker 1: If when people meet Marshall Lynch, everybody knows who you are,

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Speaker 1: is that the first question out of they like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how you doing marshank Man?

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Speaker 2: Why they give you that ball?

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Speaker 5: Hell?

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Speaker 7: No, I ain't know, Hey, mar Shan, how you doing this? Hey?

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Speaker 6: Why the fun't.

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Speaker 9: Lynch?

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Speaker 7: You wouldn't just like Marshaon Lynch like, no, I ain't

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Speaker 7: more Sean Lynch.

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Speaker 9: Oh my bad.

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Speaker 7: I didn't mean to ask you that. I thought you

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Speaker 7: if you was Marcha Lene, why the fuck.

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Speaker 2: They didn't eat?

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Speaker 10: Probably I'm marshank Man, why the fuck they didn't?

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Speaker 7: Shit? Fuck, I don't know, man, shit. I wish I

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Speaker 7: did know. I wish I like, I wish I could

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Speaker 7: get you know, the truthful answer behind that.

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Speaker 2: But if there any answer he could give you now

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Speaker 2: to satisfy.

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Speaker 7: You, I mean, at this point I wouldn't know. Now

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Speaker 1: Matter because you know everything I've heard all the everybody says, well,

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Speaker 1: they didn't want beach Mood to be the MVP. Pete

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Speaker 1: wanted it to be Russ or the NFL wanted it

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. I mean to the I played

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Speaker 1: the game for a long time. It doesn't make sense

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Speaker 1: to me. I got two hundred thirty five pounds sledge

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Speaker 1: jumber back there, and I'm gonna throw a pass on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it just don't make sense.

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Speaker 2: You almost scored on the play before you read.

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Speaker 5: It down to the one.

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Speaker 7: You damn right, you know what I mean. So I realistically,

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Speaker 7: like man, when I when I think about it, I'm

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Speaker 7: like you know, because then you know, you got all

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Speaker 7: the possibility that they not want you to be the

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Speaker 7: the super Bowl MVP, because if you super Bowl MVP,

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Speaker 7: then you the face of the NFL. They don't want,

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Speaker 7: you know, want that to be the case or whatever.

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Speaker 7: But at that and.

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Speaker 1: Then they have special case and they bring all super

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Speaker 2: Not getting the ball?

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Speaker 7: MM? You know what, realistically it was immediately. Because the

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Speaker 7: thing is, if you go and aks anybody to ever

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Speaker 7: play with me, they'll tell you like, he really like

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Speaker 7: play for the team type shit.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: So it was a part of me who wanted to

451
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Speaker 7: be selfish, like give me the ball type shit. But

452
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, knowing the work that

453
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 7: all these individuals put in, you know what I mean,

454
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 7: if Lock catch that ball, that's my nigga. So you

455
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 7: feel me, right, I'm I'm happy for him. But in

456
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 7: the grand scheme of just football, that shit don't make

457
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 7: no sense.

458
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Speaker 4: Right.

459
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 7: But as far as you know what I mean, cause

460
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 7: I I'll never come and potentially be no hater towards nobody,

461
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 7: But just certain shit makes sense and certain shit don't.

462
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 7: That just don't make no sense. It's not a it's

463
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 7: not a good football it's not it's not a football decision.

464
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 7: It's not good football. IQ on 'em now I'm thinking

465
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 7: about it.

466
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: It's not was that the play that ended the Seattle Seahawks.

467
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 7: Most definitely, and they stuff for in the front still

468
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 7: to this day because.

469
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: I had a podcast at the time called milding Off

470
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: and I went on. The next guy went on that Monday,

471
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: and I said, they'll never be the same. I said,

472
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: they won't look at Pete the same I said, they

473
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: realized what because a lot of teams win won in

474
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: a row to be special, you went back to back

475
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, because they've been so few that have done it.

476
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: I said, they will never believe in Pete the same

477
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Speaker 1: way again.

478
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Speaker 7: And it's like, you know what I mean, Like when

479
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 7: when a doapin't get that first high, they they gonna

480
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 7: chase that.

481
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: You chase that you search for, that chasing the draft.

482
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 7: Chase that motherfucker. And now you've got a situation where

483
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 7: I believe where you look at it like that motherfucker

484
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 7: is almost like he's trying to chase and rebuild that

485
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 7: team that he had rather than moving forward forward.

486
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: And letting the guys that he got be the guys. Yeah,

487
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that. You're not gonna get a sharm.

488
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a sharm. You got a rookie sharm,

489
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: and the Earl Thomas and the Cam Chancellor and you know,

490
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: you got b wags and you got kJ and you

491
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 1: got Bennett, and you got April and you got red Bro.

492
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: You you're not gonna You're not gonna recreate that.

493
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 7: You're not. But as long as you chasing that and

494
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 7: you not building these individuals be the to be the

495
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 7: greatest player that they can be, you're gonna keep on,

496
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 7: you know, repeating history. Because he got some guys who

497
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 7: I believe can play right. But if you got in

498
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 7: your mind that you want you're gonna recreate that to

499
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 7: be a Michael Bennett or you got your guy you

500
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 7: want him to be a Marshine or like, Nah, you

501
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 7: can't do that. But the thing is, if you going

502
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 7: and groom that guy to be the best him than

503
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 7: the probably give yourself a better chance, you feel me?

504
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 7: Because they got some dudes over there who I really.

505
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you get down, I like, you

506
00:21:59,560 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

507
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 7: But as long as in their mindset they trying to

508
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 7: get him to be the goddamn twenty thirteen Seahawks.

509
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: What was your what was your relationship with Pete?

510
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: Like and they're inn similarity between John Grudy Pete Carroll,

511
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: but what was your relationship like with Pete?

512
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 7: My relationship with Pete was was interesting because I mean

513
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 7: the thing is, like I like Pete as a coach

514
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 7: because he get motherfuckers ready to go. Yeah that's the truth. Yeah,

515
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 7: you feel me and he the same way every day.

516
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 7: But there was just certain things about Pete like you

517
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 7: know what I mean, he was like really and you know,

518
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 7: I mean like for me, I don't I don't need

519
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 7: that right to get going. That's why I said, you

520
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 7: like a high school code on Sunday. Yeah, we play

521
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 7: Sunday right, Oh we got too. We got Thursday night game. Okay, cool,

522
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 7: let me know what the game is and I'm gonna

523
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 7: be ready. All the extra shit I don't I don't

524
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 7: need it, right, I don't need all of that to

525
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 7: get ready to get to go. But a lot of

526
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 7: guys can feed into that, and I've seen it and

527
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 7: it worked, right, So you feel me. I never like

528
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 7: never go against the grain, like h fuck him and

529
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 7: this that and the that, cause no, he's a great

530
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 7: motivator and get mother fuckers ready. But it was just

531
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 7: that I didn't need that, and I don't think he

532
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 7: understood like where I was coming from that I don't

533
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 7: need to be ha ha and who who who? And

534
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 7: all that in order to be ready. And you know,

535
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 7: I believe he wanted me to be a part of

536
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 7: that type of environment, but that just wasn't my speed.

537
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 7: So that kind of got us to, you know what

538
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 7: I mean, head button a little bit for the misunderstanding.

539
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 7: But the thing was, I always told him, like, man,

540
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna never go against the grand I ain't

541
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 7: gonna never tell nobody not to you know what I mean,

542
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 7: listen to what you got going on, But that shit

543
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 7: just not for me. So you know what I mean,

544
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 7: if you gonna be having meetings or whatever, you know,

545
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 7: I mean, we came to an understanding. If we having

546
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 7: a meeting and you're not telling me specifically, like marsh

547
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 7: An on this play, we need you to do X,

548
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 7: Y and Z, then you know, I'm probably not gonna

549
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 7: come to that meeting because I you know, I know

550
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 7: what you're gonna be in there doing. You're gonna be

551
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 7: in here high high and busting jokes and doing all

552
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 7: the funny shit. And yeah, I mean, I'm ready to

553
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 7: play football. So when they come down to that, then't

554
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 7: let me know. Once we got that understanding, you were cool.

555
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, Me and Will had a run in Yeah, yeah.

556
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, try to put yeah yeah aye yah yah, yeah

557
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

558
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 12: I didn't find out that for fifteen years because he

559
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 12: never told me that.

560
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 11: See, he came into that. He came into the trailer

561
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 11: and I was sitting down, right, He's standing over.

562
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 12: Me like this, and he's like, I don't appreciate that, man,

563
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 12: I appreciate that. And I'm like, well, what you're talking about?

564
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 12: I always know to play it off, right, you know

565
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 12: what I mean.

566
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: It's tone.

567
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 11: Well, I'm sitting down. Oh this was fifteen years later

568
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 11: or was this this was then? Then I didn't find

569
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 11: out why, okay, because asking him.

570
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 12: Why then, but he wouldn't say nothing right right, And

571
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 12: I'm going, what's going on, man, tell me what's happening?

572
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 9: Man?

573
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 12: And since he was standing yeah, and I was sitting

574
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 12: a real nice fella, I mean.

575
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 11: That that's that's about physics, right right. So I'm like,

576
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 11: you know, man, what's going on?

577
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: Man?

578
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 12: I mean, hey, man, he said I don't appreciate that,

579
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 12: you know what I'm saying. And Jade's going, well, will

580
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 12: I'm saying, but I mean, what what's happening?

581
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 10: Man?

582
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 8: Now?

583
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 11: You tell me what's happening. You know, when the dude,

584
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 11: this is the bottom lift about to do something.

585
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 12: He might do something right, So I'm like, you know,

586
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 12: I did the I did the whole you remember the snake. Yeah,

587
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 12: I did the snake. Well, well what you know? And

588
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 12: got out right. And then I was like, you know,

589
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 12: so what are you talking about?

590
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 4: Man?

591
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 11: And I was still in that prosture.

592
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: So you didn't really know what he was actually talking about.

593
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 12: He didn't, but I know what he was doing, right,

594
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 12: So I was like, come on, man, I mean, what's

595
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 12: just tell me what's up?

596
00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 2: Right?

597
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 11: Yeah? Yeah, you know what's up?

598
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 9: You know.

599
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 12: So finally I just said, this is a small place

600
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 12: and people are here, you want we should talk about it,

601
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 12: me and you outside, because it looked like you didn't

602
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 12: need to get something off your chest, right, And then

603
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 12: Jada was like, oh no, no, no, no, no, y'all,

604
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 12: no y'all.

605
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 11: And I was like, what do you mean, nah, y'all?

606
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 11: Tell him? Tell him?

607
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 12: And that was the end of that, you see, And

608
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 12: I never knew it wasn't until my book came out

609
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 12: years later where I counted that as one of the

610
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 12: things that really bothered me and hurt me bad, because

611
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 12: I didn't know when I look up to him and

612
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 12: I love him to death.

613
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: So you really didn't know why he was upset. You

614
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: had no earthly idea that it was because of all

615
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: screen kids or the kids or what was going on.

616
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 12: No, you know, but I ain't know why when I

617
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 12: was taking the subway up with my cousin uptown to

618
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 12: the Bronx. I ain't know why when we were fourteen,

619
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 12: and why these nineteen eighteen twenty year olders on the

620
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 12: other side of the train and looking at us, going

621
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 12: what what, we'll bust your ass what? I ain't know

622
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 12: that neither, But I still was like, huh right, you know, waiting.

623
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 11: For that damn.

624
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: So fifteen years later, how did you find out?

625
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 12: This is how I found out. I put it in

626
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 12: the book, you know, And I found out about literature.

627
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 12: You can't put something in the book about somebody unless

628
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 12: they sign off on it, right, right. So I was like, uh,

629
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 12: you know, I don't want to put stuff like that

630
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 12: in the book anyway. But I was trying to be

631
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 12: real honest about my experiences so I can show that

632
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 12: you can go through anything and still be successful, right,

633
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 12: and still be a good person, right, you know what

634
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 12: I mean? And I was able to do that. But

635
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 12: It's not easy, you know, but you can do it right.

636
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 12: So I went to his best friend, Charlie Matt.

637
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 11: You know Charlie Matt. I remember the soul Charlie Matt.

638
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: Everywhere we go downtown to a show, we have two necessities.

639
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: Charlie Mack and the limo.

640
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 11: Right, Well, that's like Charlie Mack. You' gonna see him

641
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 11: at every game.

642
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 12: If it's a super Bowl, it's it's if it's the

643
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 12: Kentucky Derby, You're gonna see Charlie Mack. And that's Will's

644
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 12: best friend. So I called Charlie and I said, Charlie,

645
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 12: what do you think about this?

646
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 13: He said, yeah, you do, uh, you know, we'll we'll cool cool,

647
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 13: Jada cool too. She said, you should give me the

648
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 13: quote and I'll send it to him, you know, and

649
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 13: he'll call you.

650
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 11: They call you Tom.

651
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 12: I sent it to him, call me him and Jader.

652
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 12: She said, they say, yeah, go ahead and put that

653
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 12: in there. Go ahead and put that. And what I

654
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 12: put was that I I that I thought in the book.

655
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 12: I thought the only thing that could be possible was

656
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 12: the producers came to my trailer right when we were

657
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 12: on the last scene, and it's a kissing scene, and

658
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 12: they said, the kissing scenes now, not later on tonight.

659
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 11: We got to do that now. And I said, but

660
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 11: I haven't rehearsed with Jada.

661
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 12: That's the most important rehearsal that you can ever have

662
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 12: your lips on a female on screen. And so I

663
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 12: was like, we never got a chance to work that out.

664
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 12: You can make it look real if she's working with

665
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 12: you and everything right without kissing, right, And so I said,

666
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 12: I can't do that. I'm not doing that. I'm not

667
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 12: doing it. They said, well, we'll ask her. So it

668
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 12: went and came back. She said, just go for it.

669
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 12: And even then I was like, I ain't just gonna

670
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 12: go for it, you know, but I know I have

671
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 12: to make it look real, right, So I'm trying to

672
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 12: make it look real, and she's kind of uncomfortable about it, right,

673
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 12: you know.

674
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 11: But we got through it and you never could tell.

675
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 5: Right.

676
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 12: That's all I wanted, right, was to get it to

677
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 12: play into the film, right, That's all we want, right,

678
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 12: you know, you at T one wrong block right?

679
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 11: I mean, y'all, you know it ain't like the.

680
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 12: Receivers out here, all the glory all is blocking, you

681
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 12: know what I mean? So you got to do it right, right,

682
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 12: So I got it in there, and so they called me.

683
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 11: And said, hey, that is what happened.

684
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: Wow.

685
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

686
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 12: And I didn't find out for that long. It was

687
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 12: more than fifteen years. I was about back two thousand,

688
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 12: so it's more than that long. So I saw that side,

689
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 12: you know, And there's nothing you can do in certain

690
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 12: circumstances as far as I'm concerned, the way that I

691
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 12: grew up and saw things. You know, I made a

692
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 12: good observation after trial by ass whipping right. Okay, when

693
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 12: emotions is high, common senses at all time, low.

694
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 11: Common sense is at all time, and how low can

695
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 11: you go? You see what I mean?

696
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 12: So knowing that fact and just sticking on to what

697
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 12: I learned when I was a little kid. You know,

698
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 12: my brother and sister being white and me being black

699
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 12: wasn't a big deal to me until I found out

700
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 12: I was black. I grew up in Fort Collins, Colorado,

701
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 12: and Wyoming, Okay, found in the trash taking straight out there,

702
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 12: and I thought I was a brown one of whatever

703
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 12: we were, because I saw litters, right, So a black

704
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 12: cat can have a white one, a brown one, a

705
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 12: spacker one. I thought we were born like that, and

706
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 12: I'm a brown one or whatever.

707
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: We are right.

708
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 11: Well, we got the DC King had just got shot.

709
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 12: There were riots, and the black kids the next day

710
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 12: were whipping our ass all day and they were saying,

711
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 12: get the white cracker, and get the white cracker, lover.

712
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 12: This is the things I learned, right, you know. And

713
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 12: I was, I was going, this is stupid. So I

714
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 12: went to my mother, I said, why are they attacking me?

715
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 12: Seeing I like white crackers. I like gram crackers. Gram crackers.

716
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 12: You don't gotta have water with them or nothing. You

717
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 12: just chew and get you to the apple juice and

718
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 12: you're good, white cracker.

719
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: You be like Schwartz.

720
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 11: Niggas in total recall, you know. So so I found

721
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 11: that out.

722
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 12: And then that's where the first time I heard the

723
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 12: word nigger, you know, Okay, because.

724
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 11: We moved to the suburbs. Then it was like kill

725
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 11: the nigga.

726
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 12: And I'm five, I'm riding my bike, a whole truck,

727
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 12: a white boy barely getting in the door, people throwing

728
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 12: stuff through the window. Nigga is nigga that? So I

729
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 12: went to my mom and I said, who are these niggas?

730
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 12: We got to stay away from you know, yeah, yeah,

731
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 12: And she told me, she said it's one of her speeches.

732
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 12: She told me, hey, that's what people are. Color called

733
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 12: people your color when they don't like them. I said,

734
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 12: what color are you? She said, we're white. I said, no,

735
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 12: you're beige because I learned my colors from the Crowns.

736
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 12: She said no, but that's what we call ourselves. And

737
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 12: so I said, well, what does nigga means? She said, well,

738
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 12: that's what that's what I mean. What is what is

739
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 12: white cracker means? She said, that's what your your people

740
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 12: call our people when they don't like them.

741
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 11: I said, well, what color are they? She said they're black.

742
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 11: I said they're not. They're brown.

743
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 12: I'm a brown one, and like, hmm, that's that's that's

744
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 12: where my my my whole as a child, that messed

745
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 12: me up for a long time because I couldn't believe

746
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 12: that I was divided by my loved ones by the

747
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 12: color right, and I always thought that that was stupid.

748
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 11: But it's real, right, you know, it's real.

749
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 12: It's not really real because I am right about the

750
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 12: litters and I am right about us because when we

751
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 12: were in different civilizations and different colors, anytime we would

752
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 12: come up on another civilization that was a different color.

753
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 12: The girls would go those guys look pretty hot, and

754
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 12: the guys would go to them girls look pretty hot,

755
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 12: and dustly we started mixing.

756
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 11: It is the same thing. You see what I'm saying.

757
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 12: Right, Take a DNA strand you know that wasn't because

758
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 12: we exchanged DNA's all right, you know that's more like

759
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 12: d and p's.

760
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: You just skip.

761
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 11: I know, but I'm just I'm talking to him. No,

762
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 11: I did have stopped.

763
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 12: I'm good so but that but that was was the catalyst.

764
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 12: And I think I found my purpose in all that, right.

765
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 12: You know That's why I feel comfortable saying I'm her

766
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 12: greatest accomplishment, because I believe I was.

767
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 11: I think she did that on purpose.

768
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: You caught a lot of criticism. Steph wins his fourth ring,

769
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: he's finals MVP. Finally he's a two time MVP. Or

770
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: he's regarded as the greatest shot ever. And you said,

771
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: after winning this fourth ring and winning the finals MVP

772
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: that he solidifies himself as the greatest point guard. And

773
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: you said that stoneface, as if Magic Johnson didn't exist

774
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: is not still here.

775
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 4: You know what happened? I went and watched UH winning

776
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 4: time on Hbox and I watched his magic on Apple TV.

777
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: So I had knew about Magic, and I revere Magic.

778
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: Sometimes we revere guys and it works both ways. Sometimes

779
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: we look too much into a guy, or we don't

780
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: look enough into a guy, so you can get both

781
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: ways where God will and I don't want to. I

782
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: don't want to mess up my words. But I got

783
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: to see Magic's weaknesses where I can never see him before, right,

784
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: And now I'm watching every little close thing and I'm like, Okay,

785
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: now I'm seeing, you know, his weaknesses. And I start

786
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: watching on Olympic channel ninety two Olympics. Yes, you know

787
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: what I mean. So I'm really watching everything. I'm looking

788
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: for guy's weaknesses. Now you know what I mean. So

789
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: just watching that in depth, and when you're in the finals,

790
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: you're looking for anything to get away from the finals.

791
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: So I was really throwing myself and immersed into Magic,

792
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: so being able to break down his game from that

793
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: and then always, oh, I know steps weaknesses. You know,

794
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: I'm with him every day, so just matching up things

795
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: everything's everybody's been saying about them, and the team's Magic

796
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: had with him, team Steph had with him like Magic had,

797
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: I think higher a higher level of.

798
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Two three, the top three player.

799
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 4: And I think Magic had a guy who's never he's

800
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 4: gotten credible how good he was. But I don't think

801
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 4: people know how good James Worthy was. Oh yeah, James

802
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: Worthy would be a great player in any and every era,

803
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: oh yeah, which is rare. You know, you know what

804
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: in football, where there's certain guys that games don't translate,

805
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: Magic had a few guys who games are trans you know,

806
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: I think Cooper's game would translate, especially three. Yeah, you

807
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: know what, I uh uh b Scott b Scott game

808
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: would translate because he was kind of a three the

809
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: guy as well, you know what I'm saying. Baldi Debac

810
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: was nice and this was early with him.

811
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: Well, he was a big pass He was a passing big.

812
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: Man, right, which would be great right now, he'd be

813
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: a poor man's joke as they was, you know what

814
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean. So Magic had really great talent around Hiah.

815
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: And then you know, it's funny when they talk about Steph,

816
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 4: they really like breaking down the weaknesses of the guys

817
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 4: around him. You know, they always want to talk about

818
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: what Draymond kn't do right, and they always forget about

819
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: what he can do. And then Clay they always try

820
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 4: to call him one dimensional. He's always been a great

821
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 4: two way player. Plus he just had two injuries. Yeah, yeah,

822
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: and you just said it, you know, Wiz coming in,

823
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 4: because they try to say it was Kadie and then

824
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: Wiz coming in. Steph still do it. Then you got

825
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: young playing pool. You know, he was regarded as the

826
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: worst draft in the draft. Right guy said that the

827
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: worst pick thus far in the draft, and Steph got

828
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: this guy out here. He's about to get a hundred million,

829
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: So I think for you know, always a fan of

830
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: Jason Kidd was one of my favorite point yards. He

831
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: always got his guys contract. So it ain't all the

832
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: way about your number, but the guys what they can

833
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: do around you. Steph's done everything you can imaginally think

834
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: of in terms of basketball, whether he's got the stats

835
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: from them steps he's got the chips, and what he's

836
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: done for his teammates, and on top of magic, did

837
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: it with the Lakers in terms of the valuation the

838
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: Lakers had when he got in. Look at the valuation

839
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: of the Warriors when they bought the team with Steph

840
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: versus right now it's just it's astronomical. So, I mean,

841
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: everybody wants to try to put different parameters on what

842
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: makes you great. Well, he's he's He's checked off every box.

843
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: And Steph really a point guard, considering that Draymond really

844
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: runs the offense or the two masquerading as a point

845
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: because I think there are a lot of twos. I

846
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: think Dame Lillard, I think John, I think all these

847
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: guys that really tools the tools masquerading.

848
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: So this is gonna sound off, but it's not. But

849
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: Draymond is so smart. He just knows where to throw

850
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 4: the ball because he know them two killers gonna catch it. Yeah. Yeah,

851
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: So I don't think his assistant are inflated because most

852
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: guys don't know where they like the ball, don't know

853
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: how to get it to him. When they get it

854
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 4: to him, yes, what play the call, But you know,

855
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: Draymond is like the point of point guard out there.

856
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: But then that dribble handoff that Draymond be doing.

857
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: He run the other side and they dropped that thing and.

858
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll he'll like fake he gonna hand it off

859
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: and then go done yet, but he knows how to

860
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: bounce it. He sees Steph coming, he'll bounced the ball

861
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: no step one than a certain places the way he

862
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: can hit clay and they don't never have to break rhythm.

863
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: That's an art that's come from playing with someone for

864
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: such a long period of time and knowing that person.

865
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: But I will say that David Leeve was an All Star. Yeah,

866
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 4: Steph was out there. So I do believe like Steph

867
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 4: has a great dynamic with his power forward, right, and

868
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: if you get a high IQ power forward, they're going

869
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: to succeed. But when you get a power forward like

870
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: Draymond who's the high probably the top IQ guy in

871
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: the NBA history, like he's in at top one percent, Yeah,

872
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 4: it's a deadly combination.

873
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: Look, Steph, and this is what I say about the athletes.

874
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: They pretend I don't hear it. I don't care, I

875
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: don't care. They do care, and they do here. And

876
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: if they don't hear it, they got some homeboys that

877
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: heard it. And if the homeboys didn't hear it, they

878
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: got family members that heard it. But somehow it finds

879
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: a way to get back. And Steph Curry made it

880
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: a point to be known. I heard what y'all was saying.

881
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: Don't think I didn't hear now because y'all said I

882
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: got the other the first one, Okay, y'all didn't want

883
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: to give me no credit. Y'all told about I played bad.

884
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: He got the MVP. Find that's fine. The next two

885
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: I played unbelievable. KD got the MVP. He deserved those MVP.

886
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: But y'all make it seem like I was like a

887
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: role player. Yeah yeah, and so now, no, KD, I

888
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: did this.

889
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: What y'all want to say?

890
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 5: Now?

891
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: What was he like behind the scenes? Because I know

892
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: he was gloating. I mean he steph see people lovest that.

893
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: They say he's a look at it. It's a little

894
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: six foot six two step He's so cute and cuddling

895
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: and he thinking all the time.

896
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: Year I told you, you know what.

897
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: Draymond's my eyes one day and I hope I don't

898
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: get Draymond in trouble. But Draymond was spot on. Draymond

899
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: watches closely. I'll watch it closely. Another guy watching closely.

900
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 4: People don't really pay to Iskban Looney coman twenty six

901
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: years old in the league twelve years. See you know

902
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

903
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: But quiet has kept uh.

904
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: Consistent wise Loon might have had a third best year

905
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: for US. Yeah, you know, Steph Wiggs and you know

906
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: Pooh was nice, but he was a little inconsistent cause

907
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: you're young. But consistency loom was getting four points eighteen rebounds.

908
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: Ye.

909
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 4: So, but I'm just saying US three watching And Draymond

910
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: said it one day, he said, Steph like that, don't

911
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: get it twisted.

912
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 6: Steph like that.

913
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 4: Steph liked that attention. But it's a competitor.

914
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, competitor's attention.

915
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 4: Like oh yeah, all y'all, y'all, y'all think it's a game.

916
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: Huh Yeah, y'all think it's sweet. And we used to

917
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: always say, like, guys think Steph sweet and they get

918
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 4: in the court and they're like, man, there's light skin.

919
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: Do theing about to kill him? And before they know it,

920
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: now all the guys in the league say the same thing,

921
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: like I didn't know he was that good, but man,

922
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 4: I look up. He had thirty But now guys know it.

923
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: And then he getting the best of everybody every night.

924
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah you heard what you heard what my man from

925
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 4: West Side Chicago said, Patrick Beverley. I'm getting the right meal.

926
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 4: I'm in bed by nine thirty. I done watched all

927
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: the film. I got a big one tomorrow. I gotta

928
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: go get Steph Curry.

929
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: Every night, Yeah, every night, and keep he keep doing it.

930
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: He been doing it. Yeah.

931
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 4: And then this year before the injury, he we got

932
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: off to eighteen and one start, So it wasn't like

933
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: it was a fluke like all we about to really

934
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: run it, were about to really run through y'all. So right, him,

935
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: he's got that ego win him where he's he wants

936
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: to all to know, like I'm really one of them dudes.

937
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 4: Ran to twenty ten World Championship, was just coming out party,

938
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: and then two NBA champions coming with out of that,

939
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: and then I played with him in the Olympics twenty twelve.

940
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: I'm pretty much undefeated with Katie so.

941
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: But but you believe Steph is open to a reunion

942
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: with Kevin Durant.

943
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 4: I haven't had that conversation with Steph quite honestly. You know,

944
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: I think eive in different plays. Now we've been we've

945
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: just been enjoying winning the league. I called this money

946
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: heist that's showing Netflix. Yeah, well they everybody know everybody

947
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: in the world. No, man, it's just eight people that

948
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 4: just keep robbing us of everything. We see them coming,

949
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 4: We know they're about to come here and get it,

950
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: and we can't stop.

951
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: Right.

952
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 4: That's how it summed up this year. We start off

953
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: eighteen and one, so y'all know we're here. Y'all know

954
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: this ain't no fluke, right, And then we had a

955
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: little slippers with some injuries, and then the playoffs start

956
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: and I'm like, and we're looking like, oh, it's sweet.

957
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: We lock in, We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna come

958
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 4: get another right, don't let us come get this right

959
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: because y'all know what's gonna happen. And we come Draymond

960
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: gonna be Draymond. We come and get this one. Y'all

961
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: don't like here?

962
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Dreimond said, ye'll better a limit, but Steph's

963
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: but when you guys got when step got knocked out

964
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: of the playoff of the play in Memphis, he said,

965
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: we have some injuries, he said, but y'all better get

966
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: us now because y'all don't want to see us next year.

967
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: He foretold of what was to come.

968
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think my first it's funny because my

969
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: first uh, when I signed with the Warriors twenty and thirteen,

970
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 4: and you do the press conference. You say, we're supposed

971
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: to say, PC, I'm coming here to try to win

972
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: a championship. Nobody take you serious. But I'm saying to myself,

973
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: I think I've met the closest thing to Jesus Christ.

974
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 4: Not to put that on him, but I've never seen

975
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: an individual night he doesn't straight away from who he

976
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: is in terms of who he is as a person.

977
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: So you know what you're getting night in, night out,

978
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: and I can see it. And so I'm thinking, I'm

979
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: about to go try to win a championship. And then

980
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: we win a couple and then he comes out and

981
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: he says, y'all better get this now because we're coming back.

982
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: I think y'all need to start taking Steph more serious

983
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: when he's talking, because y'all just so used to him

984
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: being the baby face killer, this nice kid. You know,

985
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 4: his faith is very strong. He faith is strong. That

986
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: means he got that faith is real. So what he's

987
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: saying he really believing, and thus far it's all come true.

988
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: Before you play with him, did you realize how good

989
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: stuff was? I mean to watch it from a distance,

990
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: You're like, damn man, dude, make it all these shots.

991
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: And then you get up close to him and you

992
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: watch him in practice and you see the things that

993
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: he does before he even stepped foot on the court.

994
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Did you realize Steph was this good, like generational, like

995
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: transcendent good.

996
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

997
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: So when I saw him when he was younger, I

998
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: saw the deficiency. So I'm the type of basketball mind

999
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: where I'm just looking for your flaws, Right, what doesn't

1000
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: he do? And can he get better at what he

1001
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: doesn't do well? Like, can he can he get rid

1002
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: of those deficiencies? So early in STEP's career, Steph was thinned, right,

1003
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: he would get beat up, and his Achilles hill was

1004
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 4: European guards, like the Rubios Navarrol from Spain. We played

1005
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: in the World Championships, Drogic scoring drogic so and they

1006
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: were like crafty and thin and they little chippy, so

1007
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: they you know, they hit you below the belt a

1008
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: few times here and there, and they might throw you off.

1009
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 4: And his handle wasn't always this tight, right, Steph's handle

1010
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: wasn't always tight.

1011
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: He getting loose with the ball.

1012
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: He always been loose with the ball with his turnovers, right,

1013
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: And if you just watch STEP's progression. He's continued to

1014
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 4: get better. And and that's the part people don't see,

1015
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: you know, they don't see us in the five am

1016
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 4: working out all the ways were pushing. You know, what's

1017
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: my man Harrison from the Steelers. Yeah, we see him.

1018
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: But he had been doing that, you know, he just

1019
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: get strong. Steph was the same way. He just he

1020
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: ain't just getting like he had been working in building

1021
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 4: up right, and he's been progressing year in and year out,

1022
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: like this year, Luna and I will be on the

1023
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: bench saying it's a tight game, lay in the fourth.

1024
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: We need Steph to be like MJ. We need him

1025
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 4: to start picking the game apart. You know, we don't

1026
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: need Steph to shoot a half court three or just

1027
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: pull up from three. We need to get to a MIDI.

1028
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: We need to need a bucket. And he start getting

1029
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: to it right. He started getting the paint up and unders.

1030
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: He saw on flipping the.

1031
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: Ball like he was getting like and that was because

1032
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: early on is that let's run him off the three, right,

1033
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: but he wanted to settle. Now step going off. Steph

1034
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: gotta got a layup package. He got a float game.

1035
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: He's not afraid to go in there and mix it

1036
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: up with the big so now with the three, the

1037
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: three ball dropping and with his float game, he's almost

1038
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: he's undoubtable exactly.

1039
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: And they all and you've never seen a six two guy,

1040
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: sixty three guy, a guy under six five dominate the

1041
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: game the way nah, we've never seen Yah.

1042
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean small got guards. When I was

1043
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: talking about guards, I mean magic was different. Magic was

1044
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties, the early seventies, magic would

1045
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: have been about four or five right, let alone the

1046
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: point guard. But you have to go back to AI

1047
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: to look at a guy undersize dominate the game. And Steph,

1048
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: he just took it, just took it to it.

1049
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 4: I mean for this long because you see young you

1050
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 4: see Isaiah Stockton had long run, just couldn't get it.

1051
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: But he Stockton couldn't dominate the game, Offensing.

1052
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about guys who did it for this long,

1053
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: like a I had his run, but he don't even

1054
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: really played twelve years in the league, eleven years in

1055
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: the league. In his last few years, you know, he's

1056
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: bouncing around a little bit. Isaiah had a kill, his

1057
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: tear of his career really didn't last that long. So

1058
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: you know, you rarely see guys at that size really

1059
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: do it, but for this long and they on a

1060
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 4: seven eight year run him Dremond Clay. They really ran

1061
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: through the league. They disrupted a lot of a lot

1062
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: of things for a lot of guys.

1063
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: I think what what helped him is that early on

1064
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: he had the injuries, he probably gotten that bug out

1065
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: of there, and so now he's on the he's on

1066
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the stretch now where he's about to be healthy for

1067
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: for a.

1068
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: Few more years.

1069
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: The Kings of Comedy, You said, Bernie mac dl di,

1070
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: how did they put that? How did they putting that together?

1071
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Steve? How do you guys come together? And says okay?

1072
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: D l said Steve, Bernie.

1073
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 10: See the first year it was just me Bernie and

1074
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 10: said okay. And that was rough Man and the guy

1075
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 10: this kid came up to his name Walter Latham, twenty

1076
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 10: six years old, and said, hey man, I wanna create

1077
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 10: this thing called the Original Kings of Comedy, and I

1078
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 10: want y'all three to be it, and we only gonna

1079
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 10: do basketball arenas. And we looked at him and said

1080
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 10: we're gonna do what don't He said, We're gonna do

1081
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 10: basketball arenas. I said, don't. We can't sell out no

1082
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 10: basketball arena. He said, no, I've been looking at Polestar.

1083
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 10: All y'all, all three of y'all can sell out five

1084
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 10: thousand seats by yourself. He said, if I put y'all together,

1085
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 10: we gonna sell our basketball arenas multiple times. So we

1086
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 10: used three of us were sitting there talking about it,

1087
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 10: and we said, man, this dude, crazy man, can't do

1088
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 10: this right here she said. He said, I got a sponsor,

1089
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 10: Royal Crown Royal. He said, we're gonna guarantee y'all X

1090
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 10: amount of night. It was like a quarter of a million.

1091
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 10: And we we said, don't you finna.

1092
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 6: Do what don't? I looked at said said say they look.

1093
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 10: Let's just get let's just get the deposit, get on out.

1094
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 6: If it don't work, let's get the deposit.

1095
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 10: The kid paid us this deposit for the first night,

1096
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 10: and that's how we got started. And Uh, it was rough, man,

1097
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 10: because it was just the three of us, and the

1098
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 10: first night we did it.

1099
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: Was a disaster.

1100
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1101
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 10: It was for me, great for Bernie and said because

1102
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 10: they went up first, said went up first. Now the

1103
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 10: deal was to do thirty minutes, said went out there

1104
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 10: did forty five, Bernie did fifty two. I don't know

1105
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 10: if you've ever followed Bernie mad before. It ain't what

1106
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 10: you want. They down there, Bernie Didne cussed out everybody

1107
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 10: in the crowd, and he's hystericause they're stumping.

1108
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 6: They'll rent about the fall.

1109
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 10: And we're performing at this arena in Charlotte where the

1110
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 10: hockey players play. So they had put down the floor

1111
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 10: on top of the ice, all the black people in

1112
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 10: there with coats, and then the dude said, we gotta

1113
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 10: have a forty five minute in a mission. What so

1114
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 10: you got, said Bernie? Forty five minutes in a mission?

1115
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 10: These black people just sitting down on top of this

1116
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 10: ice with the little sheet applied wood between and they

1117
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 10: freeze it. Then here I come. Now the disaster in

1118
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 10: that was my mama had died in December.

1119
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: Right.

1120
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 6: Our first performance was.

1121
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 10: December twenty sixth, the day after Christmas, but my mama

1122
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 10: had died that month. My comedy special had came out

1123
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 10: December twenty first on HBO.

1124
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 6: Right, I ain't even watch it. I was in a blur.

1125
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 6: My mama gone.

1126
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1127
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 6: It was like.

1128
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 10: For two months, man, I thought I was gonna die sy'all.

1129
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 10: I thought, I said, I ain't gonna make it, man,

1130
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 10: because I had lost this girl. Man, I was devastated.

1131
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 10: So my special came out right before the first night.

1132
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 10: I didn't even wasn't even thinking. So I'm out there

1133
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 10: when I finally come on stage, they freezing and now

1134
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 10: I'm doing the jokes from my special.

1135
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 6: Oh that I forgot had just came out.

1136
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 5: That all my.

1137
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 10: Fans that heard these jokes, and I'm out tore just

1138
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 10: and they hollering out punchline.

1139
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: Do some new shit, you know black people stay.

1140
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 6: We heard that, and I'm going, why is they saying this?

1141
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 10: And I didn't even understand that my special had just

1142
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 10: came out, right, but I was so devastated. So that night, man,

1143
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 10: I didn't do well at all. Right, the next morning,

1144
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 10: this comedian on the radio acts them were driving to

1145
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 10: the airport.

1146
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 6: Steve Harvey don't deserve to.

1147
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: Be no king.

1148
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 10: I don't know how he on the show. He wasn't shit.

1149
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 10: He on the radio, just eating my ass a lot.

1150
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 10: And I'm hearing this going to the airport. Now, I

1151
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 10: have stayed up all night. I ain't had no sleep,

1152
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 10: cause I ain't I would. I just had a horrible night.

1153
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 10: Right now, I'm writing cause then I finally realized they

1154
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 10: was repeating my special. So I'm writing all night. I

1155
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 10: ain't even go to bed. I stayed up. I sat

1156
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 10: on the plane writing. I got in Kansas City. I

1157
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 10: wrote all the way up the showtime. I been up

1158
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 10: all night man getting old jokes, reworking and putting them together.

1159
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 10: Came up with a whole new set next night Kansas City.

1160
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 10: That we arguing. Now me and the brothers is arguing

1161
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 10: cause I'm saying and bruhs thirty thirty thirty ninety minutes,

1162
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 10: y'all got to help me.

1163
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 6: Forty forty eight fifteen minutes in the mission. Here I come.

1164
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 10: That night I got a standing ovation. I had redeemed

1165
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 10: myself running now and so the first year was rough

1166
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 10: because I wanted to switch up sometimes. You know, we're

1167
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 10: all kings. You wanted to go first. Maybe go first.

1168
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 10: Sometimes give them hey, man, let me sit in the

1169
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 10: rocking chair, Let me be second. Bernie sat in the

1170
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 10: rock and Chick and I went man because you got

1171
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 10: said one of them up. Bernie in the rocket chair.

1172
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 10: You're closing behind these dudes.

1173
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 6: Is rough.

1174
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 10: So that's where we had our little that were you

1175
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 10: and Bernie. But it heads that was our only odds.

1176
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 10: That was our only odds because I just man, y'all

1177
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 10: gotta give me a chance to win two and they

1178
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 10: ain't never want to spitch switch. So the whole year

1179
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 10: we did that, and then we bought in guid Toy

1180
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 10: and goud Tory hosted the show next year. He added,

1181
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 10: d L, Now we got a problem. We can't have

1182
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 10: Fox acts because who gonna go last?

1183
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 6: Now? So the argument was, Steve, you gonna last again?

1184
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 10: I'm going hell, no, no, no, man, we all get

1185
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 10: in the same check dog, I'm out here working the

1186
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 10: He said, it's hard to follow now, I gotta follow,

1187
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 10: DL said, and Bernie, Bernie by hisself, Mac Mac was

1188
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 10: just he was of all of us. Man, he was

1189
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 10: that boy could put some pressure on you. So I said,

1190
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 10: I said, I'll tell you what I do. So then

1191
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 10: Walterer said, well, why one of y'all host this show?

1192
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 10: Ain't nobody want to be the MC. My hand shot

1193
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 10: straight up, I got it.

1194
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 6: I'm hosting because that was for me, was cool. I

1195
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: make it like it's my show. I bring everybody out,

1196
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 6: lay it out like that.

1197
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 10: And then they switched over whenever we did Saint Louis said,

1198
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 10: we clothes, whenever we did La dl clothes, when we

1199
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 10: did Chicago go Bernie clothes, and everybody moved it around right,

1200
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 10: and then we settled it. And then the Kings was

1201
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 10: really born right at that moment. But we toured for

1202
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 10: three years, man, right, and nobody but black people heard

1203
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 10: of us. That wasn't a white person in the crowd

1204
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 10: for three straight years. Why never did the article? We

1205
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 10: just did black radio. We sold out the MCR Center

1206
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 10: four times, two weekends in a row, sixty four thousand.

1207
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 10: We sold out to Georgia Georgia Dome forty four thousand.

1208
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 10: We sold out the United Center six times. Thought we

1209
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 10: was walking through this country. Then the dude in the

1210
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 10: USA today, black dude came did a article on us,

1211
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 10: and that was it. We was making so much money

1212
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 10: After that, man, we couldn't mm what happened?

1213
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 11: Why?

1214
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: Why did it end?

1215
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 6: After the movie? Man, that was probably blessing them a curse.

1216
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, the four of us, it was a larger which

1217
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 10: comedy movie ever in the history. It was the largest

1218
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 10: comedy tour in the history. But these white boys came

1219
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 10: along called blue collar comedy tour. It was Larry Cable Guy,

1220
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 10: Jeff Foxworthy, Ron White and Bill Ingvill and they said,

1221
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 10: we gonna show them Kings who the real Kings is.

1222
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 10: So they came out with the Blue Collar Comedy Tour.

1223
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 10: They couldn't fuck with us. They wasn't even close. They

1224
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 10: wasn't even pole Star came out. Kings was kicking. They

1225
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 10: ass we was filling up buildings, man, And they thought

1226
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 10: they like, I don't think fox was in that, But

1227
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 10: bill Ingvill had said, we gonna show them what the

1228
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 10: Kings really looked like, right, And they started selling tickets,

1229
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 10: but they couldn't compete with us. Man, the Kings of

1230
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 10: comedy was was we was? And plus we was that other.

1231
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 6: Kind of funny, right, we was tag your mouth out funny.

1232
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 10: We Right, you get up out your chair. Your asshole

1233
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 10: was still in the city. You know that type ship

1234
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 10: was happening because when black people laugh, they get up

1235
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 10: and run to the back of the room. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1236
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 10: off the stand, take all the popcord.

1237
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 6: They were the black people. Yeah, they were letting us

1238
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 6: have it, man.

1239
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 10: And so when it ended, the thing that the Blue

1240
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 10: Collar Comedy to it did was they stayed together.

1241
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 6: We split up.

1242
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: You wish you to stay that kept it together, could

1243
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: have kept it together a couple.

1244
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 10: We tried everything, but you know, dudes felt like they

1245
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 10: was movie stars.

1246
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 6: I never saw myself as a movie star.

1247
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: I always Yeah, I was gonna ask you that because

1248
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: you you kind of like stayed in your lane. You

1249
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: see said brand start, Bernie did movies. You kind of stayed.

1250
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you had had a couple of rolls, but

1251
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: that didn't seem to be That didn't seem to be

1252
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 1: your passion, that didn't seem to be where you wanted

1253
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: to go.

1254
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 10: Never read for a movie. Man didn't care nothing about it.

1255
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 10: Our TV star, I want to be on TV.

1256
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: So TV and radio with your with your radios.

1257
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 10: I could do this, right, I could do this. I

1258
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 10: could become household if I stay on TV. You know,

1259
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 10: you got hey Man to be famous in the movie.

1260
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 10: You know how long it takes to be Denzel? Yeah, yeah,

1261
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 10: that's then. They've been in this a while.

1262
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: I remember him in Glory because they feel glory in

1263
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: Savanna if I'm not mistakes. Yeah, so that was like

1264
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: eighty five eighty six.

1265
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 6: He was a gangster though, this dude, you believed him. Yeah, yeah,

1266
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 6: I can only play me. Yeah, see, let me just

1267
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 6: do TV or I just do me.

1268
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 10: I ain't Harvey, I ain't been no acting class, and

1269
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 10: to do this here, I'm not fit to kre finish Cityvan,

1270
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 10: just care. I don't really like you. I can't cry

1271
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 10: cry with you at right we in the scene. I'm

1272
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 10: finished cry. I don't even know your ass.

1273
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 6: My father died.

1274
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 10: Well, okay, I don't know you all your daddy, So

1275
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 10: me trying to work these tears up.

1276
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 6: This probably ain't it. Just let me go be me,

1277
00:57:59,360 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 6: so I knew.

1278
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 10: But Bernie got a lot of rolls, said got a

1279
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 10: lot of rolls, and they just wanted to do it man,

1280
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 10: and that was cool and I understood it.

1281
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 6: So I just knew.

1282
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 10: But the thing that they did, though, well they went

1283
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 10: and got so many roles they stopped doing stand up me.

1284
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 6: I felt so strongly about stand up.

1285
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 10: I never stopped when I got my TV shows, I stealed,

1286
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 10: toured on the weekend, and I never went back to

1287
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 10: comedy clubs once I was in the Marinas. That's why

1288
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 10: I stayed there. So I just stayed in big theaters

1289
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 10: at arenas. I was going to the Staples Center. No

1290
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 10: Kia Madison by myself, take two people with me, Radio

1291
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 10: City Music Hall, I was selling. I stayed right there

1292
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 10: while the guys was doing the movies.

1293
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: They got stepped away from the They stepped.

1294
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 6: Away from the from the craft.

1295
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 5: You know.

1296
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: But but you walked away at the height of it, Steve,

1297
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: you walked away from the stand up and really hadn't

1298
00:58:59,520 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: come back.

1299
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: Would you be willing?

1300
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: What would it take Steve Harvey to do to do

1301
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: the crypt the Crypto dot Com? What would it take

1302
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: for you to do Soul five? What would it take?

1303
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: How much would it take for Steve Harvey to do

1304
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: what they doing on Netflix? You say, everybody you see

1305
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: Chapel Quake, all those guys had, specially little Netflix. What

1306
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: would it take for Steve Harvey to give to give

1307
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: us sixty minutes?

1308
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I have to be done with

1309
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 10: the TV career because once I do the special, I'm

1310
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 10: gonna be done with my job.

1311
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: Man, you cured up a storm. You killing everybody, Steve.

1312
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 10: Nog They gonna they're gonna take me off TV. Here

1313
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 10: ain't no way to cancel culture to live.

1314
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 6: See.

1315
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 10: The reason I stopped was because I saw, Okay, I

1316
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 10: got family, few I got little big Shots, I got

1317
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 10: all this stuff being offered to me. At one point

1318
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 10: in time, I had seven shows on TV all at.

1319
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 6: Once in one season.

1320
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 4: Wow.

1321
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 10: I had Funderdome, Little Big Shots, Amazing Grace, Celebrity Family Feud,

1322
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 10: Family Feud. I had two other shows Showtime that Apollo

1323
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 10: had came back on Fox.

1324
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 6: I worked seven days a week.

1325
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 10: Man, I went through a forty one week period with

1326
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 10: seven days of taping, and I knew that if I

1327
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 10: performed as a stand up that whole TV career, they

1328
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 10: were gumble and I was making enough to really solidify

1329
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 10: myself in television. So in twenty twelve I had to

1330
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 10: walk away because I was at the height.

1331
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 6: Of everything and I had everything going for me.

1332
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 10: So now, Man, then I watched Chapelle and Rock and

1333
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 10: all these boys get sixty million here and all this here,

1334
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 10: and I thought about it. I couldn't. I couldn't dump

1335
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 10: what I had for that right because I knew the longevity.

1336
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 10: I was gonna make it up. Yeah, anyway, So like today, man,

1337
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 10: I've been this is for the probably been the first

1338
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 10: year I've been thinking about it, just doing one more

1339
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 10: and I probably had to call it something like fucking

1340
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 10: I'm out or something like that, because I know.

1341
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 6: That's gonna be it.

1342
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 10: It's gonna be career ending, right because what I really

1343
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 10: want to say I'm not gonna do is special. Unless

1344
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 10: I can say what I really want to say. I

1345
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 10: want to be like Rock and have selective outrage. You know,

1346
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 10: I want to be like Chappelle and really say something.

1347
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 10: But what I really got in my heart to say.

1348
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 10: If I say it, my career is over.

1349
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: You made a joke about your Eggit from Jackson State

1350
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: was kind of like your marriages.

1351
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 5: I did, because I don't remember you did. What did

1352
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 5: they say?

1353
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: You said? Uh?

1354
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: You was like you said something like, I don't remember exactly.

1355
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1356
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: I think they were probably upset that y'all were getting divorce,

1357
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: kind of like Jackson State was upset that you were leaving.

1358
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they were happy you were leaving.

1359
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: Jackson State clearly wasn't happy that you were leaving. You

1360
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: brought Brenner and Renter and to talk to your players.

1361
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: What you trying to accomplish by bringing her in this

1362
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: social media influence?

1363
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 8: Brittany is a real woman.

1364
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 5: Okay, she keeps it one hundred.

1365
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 8: She keeps it straightforward and she is a tremendous influencer

1366
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 8: on Instagram. Bringing her in to talk about game right

1367
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 8: from a woman's point of view, right, was unbelievable. Had

1368
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 8: I had Brittany Renter in a meeting when I was

1369
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 8: in college, I might be.

1370
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 5: About fifteen million dollars.

1371
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 8: Morecher because she broke it down to these.

1372
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: Guys her game and what she was trying to accomplish,

1373
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: and not.

1374
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 8: Her just the women, just and she even told him

1375
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 8: I got more the coldest line, she said, I got

1376
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 8: more checks in my DMS than Nike.

1377
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 4: I said, wow.

1378
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 8: Wow means at them, yes, okay. And she's trying to

1379
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 8: tell them how this has played out. She say, it's

1380
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 8: women out there to do their homework. They know everything

1381
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 8: about y'all because you tell on yourself on the ground

1382
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 8: and on social so they know how to go get you.

1383
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 8: And you think and you conquering, and then you ain't.

1384
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 5: Because it's all a plan.

1385
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: You think you run a gaming, they run a game

1386
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: on you.

1387
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 5: She was unbelievable.

1388
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 8: And I'm hoping and I know a few guys learned

1389
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 8: tremendously from her speech.

1390
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 5: She brought us. She opened a lot of eyes.

1391
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: When you sit down with guys, and obviously they want

1392
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: to know about the game, the football game. But what

1393
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: advice do you give young players when you're talking to

1394
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: guys now, I mean now you're coaching, it's gonna be

1395
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: a little bit harder for you to get out.

1396
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: But everybody would always, you.

1397
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: Know, ask you questions, coach time Prime, what advice do

1398
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: you give these young guys?

1399
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: What advice did you give them.

1400
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 5: In what regards? Because it's a we're talking about a

1401
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 5: whole plethora of that.

1402
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I could say how to approach the game, the

1403
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: game of football, game of football.

1404
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 8: First of all, you gotta love it, you you really

1405
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 8: gotta love it. And some people in like with it, love.

1406
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: The pay because I think somebody tell them sometimes they

1407
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: love the pay boy.

1408
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

1409
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 8: So the thing about it, the game gonna give you

1410
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 8: what you give it, and when you're not giving it nothing,

1411
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 8: it ain't gonna give you nothing.

1412
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 5: And you can't prostitute the game. You can't just.

1413
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 8: Seduce it and act as if it's gonna produce a

1414
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 8: child for you. It's not gonna do that. The game

1415
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 8: is sophisticated, man, and the game has game. The game

1416
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 8: understands what you put in you're gonna get out. The

1417
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 8: game understands that there has to be affection and attention

1418
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 8: and consideration for it for.

1419
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 5: It to give you the results that you want.

1420
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 8: This game is real, and you can't just love this

1421
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 8: game just for this amount of time.

1422
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 5: It's like a woman. You got to love her intensely.

1423
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 8: You gotta take her home with you, you gotta take

1424
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 8: her out with you. You gotta just shower her with gifts

1425
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 8: and focus because she needs it and she wants it,

1426
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 8: and she gonna bless you and make you feel good

1427
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 8: in all the right ways. But you're gonna have to

1428
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 8: do what hadn't been done for this game.

1429
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: What about life? What advice do you give the guys

1430
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: about the game of life?

1431
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 8: The game of life has the scoreboard, unfortunately, and it's

1432
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 8: measured by oftentimes what you have on your shoes, your clothes,

1433
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 8: where you live, and that's not right.

1434
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 5: But it does have a scoreboard.

1435
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 8: But since it has a scoreboard, you don't have to

1436
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 8: worry about keeping score that way, But how do you

1437
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 8: play the win? Because anybody that keeps scoring, I got

1438
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 8: to play the win. Some fool said want to It

1439
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 8: don't matter if you want to lose, how you play

1440
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 8: the game?

1441
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, if it ain't got no scoreboard, right,

1442
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 5: because long for a reason. As long as the score

1443
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 5: I gotta win. Yeah, So it does matter if you

1444
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 5: want to lose.

1445
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 8: But I want these guys to always focus on winning

1446
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 8: and dominate.

1447
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 5: And you can.

1448
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 8: But it also has to be a plan man. I'm

1449
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 8: a planner man. We don't do anything without making plans.

1450
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 8: So we don't do anything with not being on time

1451
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 8: right now. So life lessons are deep. It depends on

1452
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 8: the situation because I can really go into depth and

1453
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 8: detail because I got one hundred and fifteen young men

1454
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 8: as well as trainers and equipment persons that I got

1455
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 8: to pour into because they're part of my staff work. Yeah,

1456
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 8: and I want them to And I got to be filled.

1457
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 8: I can't be empty because when I'm empty empty, I

1458
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 8: don't have nothing to give. So I got to keep

1459
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 8: myself full. And I can't have distractions and dissension and mess.

1460
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 8: I can't have ignorance and none of that. So I

1461
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 8: don't let the family budgrunk get involved. I don't do that.

1462
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 8: I don't know how people do that. I don't do that.

1463
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 8: They my family know, the quickest way to exit my

1464
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 8: life is to bring me some bull joug or some

1465
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 8: drunk friends as well.

1466
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: Don't.

1467
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 5: I don't do it. I'm too old and too bold

1468
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 5: for that. I don't play it.

1469
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: Of all the sports that you played, football, basketball, track

1470
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: and field, baseball, what was the easiest sport for you?

1471
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 5: Easiest sport was football? What was the hardest baseball?

1472
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: You told me, the hardest thing to do is hit

1473
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 2: that ball.

1474
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 4: Man.

1475
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 5: That ball does some things to.

1476
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 8: Any sport that you could fall seven out of ten

1477
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 8: times and become great.

1478
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 5: You're great and make two three hundred dollars in it.

1479
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: That's a hard sport. What made you? What made you

1480
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: want to stop?

1481
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: Decide to stick with baseball even though you had this

1482
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: great football career.

1483
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 8: The challenge, man, I love challenges, and I could not

1484
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 8: master it, and it frustrated me because I hate to

1485
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 8: lose it. I hate I'm not mastering something that I know.

1486
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 8: If I just had more time, I could the speed.

1487
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: They tell the story that you weren't supposed to run

1488
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: afford it at the combine.

1489
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 5: No, I was supposed to run.

1490
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: You were supposed to run, Yeah, but you but you

1491
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: was teasing them that you might not run.

1492
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 5: Why okay, but you run.

1493
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: Everybody else had got there early, everybody else stretched you

1494
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: ready to go? You come up with your tracksuit on.

1495
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: You come on your looks at you little outfit on that.

1496
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: No stretching, no warming up.

1497
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: Get on the line.

1498
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 8: It's in my office, on the back of my wall.

1499
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 8: The cheeta never stretched before we go get his preymble kingdom.

1500
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, what have you seen? The cheat of stretch?

1501
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: Before you go?

1502
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 5: Get the handloa?

1503
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: So why were you anticipating?

1504
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: You was like, man, if I don't stretch, I could

1505
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: run this, what time would you actually anticipated?

1506
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 5: Two fo two four two something low fotoos.

1507
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: So if you had stretched, how can you say if?

1508
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 5: Because that's what time?

1509
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 8: I can't touch my toes now, I said, I ain't

1510
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 8: never been a stretch.

1511
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 5: I ain't never been flexible.

1512
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 2: And you just took off got it right one time?

1513
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 5: And did I ran twice? I ran twice? I believe.

1514
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: No, you didn't.

1515
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. You should have been there a matter

1516
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 5: of fact, No, I keep it. Next year, okay, where's

1517
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 5: the same year?

1518
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: No, you was eighty nine hours ninety okay, right, So

1519
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: now they tell you about the interview process you know,

1520
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: you go in, you meet with the coaches. Hey, how

1521
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: you doing a lot of different teams? Hey, how you doing.

1522
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: They sit down and talk to you. You say you

1523
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: went to the Giants, and then you say, holder, hop,

1524
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: when do you guys pick?

1525
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 8: First of all, first of all, it was open house, right.

1526
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 8: I don't know how it was when you went, but

1527
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 8: it's open house. It's ages everywhere, yes, girls everywhere, people

1528
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 8: in the hallways. It wasn't secluded like it is now.

1529
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 8: So I'm trying to get away from people, and I

1530
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 8: back into this room and I see all these dudes

1531
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 8: with their heads down like they're getting ready to take

1532
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:29,959
Speaker 8: their sayteam.

1533
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 5: So I'm like, what is this?

1534
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 8: And the dude handed me a phone book. Man, I

1535
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 8: mean that thing was thicking in a phone book. And

1536
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 8: I said, howd on home?

1537
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 5: What pick y'all got?

1538
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 8: I think we're up the tenth, I said, man, I'd

1539
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 8: be going by then, and I just walked right out

1540
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 8: and I was paying dance.

1541
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 5: Serious. I wasn't even trying to joke.

1542
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 8: But it was a phone book, right, Is that the

1543
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 8: one that lookt some testing the Giants gave me?

1544
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 5: Why do they do that? What is that test gonna

1545
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 5: do about a game on the field. Me right, sometime,

1546
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 5: ain't got nothing to do with what you gonna do

1547
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 5: in the field.

1548
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: So you feel like I'm good.

1549
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 5: I'm good.

1550
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm great. I'm not good.

1551
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 5: I'm great.

1552
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: Did you want did y?

1553
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean you said, if Detroit would have selected you,

1554
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: they gonna have to put you on lailway?

1555
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: Did you where did you want? Where was the idea?

1556
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: Where did you want to go?

1557
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 5: I was on the All American trip going into my

1558
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 5: senior year, and we went.

1559
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 8: To Atlanta, Del Bab. I got off the airport. I

1560
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 8: I got off the plane. I'm sorry from Tallahassee, and

1561
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 8: I'm I seen black folks.

1562
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 5: I got in the car to go to the hotel.

1563
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 5: I seen black folks.

1564
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 8: We had a function that we were going to the

1565
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 8: hospitals to volunteer help. I seen black doctors, black nurses.

1566
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 8: Got back in the car, so we riding through town.

1567
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,839
Speaker 8: I see black folks in Mercedes and BMW's and Lexus

1568
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 8: and all that kind of stuff. I ain't never seen

1569
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 8: that before. He blew my mind. Man, right, I said, Wow,

1570
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 8: this is where I want to go. Because I was

1571
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 8: good and ignorant. The next full of gold curl looked wet,

1572
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 8: but it was dry, you know. And I was flashy,

1573
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 8: flaming born because I was straight Florida. I said, hey,

1574
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 8: this is where I need to be because they gonna

1575
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 8: understand me. And so that's when we told several teams,

1576
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 8: I'm playing baseball.

1577
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 5: Don't don't do it. Don't even do it. Don't even do.

1578
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: It where you're trying to while you were you trying

1579
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: to scare them away.

1580
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 8: Yes, because I wanted to go to Atlanta at the

1581
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 8: fifth pick, and that's I got my dream. And I

1582
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 8: thank God for Atlanta for drafting me. That was the

1583
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 8: best thing that ever happened to me.

1584
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:38,879
Speaker 2: Obviously.

1585
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 14: You know you love yourself some Lebron James, Yeah, yeah, he's.

1586
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 9: I just got the fore with them j hung up on.

1587
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 14: Yeah, the blast for me coming out of your mouth,

1588
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 14: It's okay, you can believe that.

1589
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 9: You could believe that.

1590
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you know what, right, the first Lebron topic, right,

1591
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: don't need to be nobody.

1592
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 14: Here's what, Here's what's gonna hurt you. Here's what's gonna

1593
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 14: hurt you. Because you see, when you're talking like that,

1594
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 14: people like but but that No, I'm gonna sit back

1595
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 14: and let you talk.

1596
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 9: And then I'm gonna say you finish. Are you figuring? Sure?

1597
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 4: No?

1598
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 14: And you're gonna be like nah, And I'm gonna say,

1599
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 14: you gotta wait now because I waited. Here I come,

1600
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 14: and you're gonna have to deal with the tsunami that

1601
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 14: I'm gonna break. I'm gonna rain down upon you when

1602
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 14: it comes especially to that.

1603
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 9: And that's what's it, and that's what you're gonna have

1604
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 9: to say. Listen, Lebron, Listen, I got this man.

1605
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 14: The game was started in nineteen forty seven.

1606
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 9: I got Lebron James.

1607
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 14: The thousands of players that have played in the NBA,

1608
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 14: I got him number two all time.

1609
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1610
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, you got people walking around like that's disrespect it is.

1611
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 9: I got a see that's the motion.

1612
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 2: That's a much right there.

1613
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,879
Speaker 14: Listen, let me tell you that right now, I personally

1614
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 14: believe a legitimate argument could be made that I'm sitting

1615
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 14: in front of the greatest tight end in the history

1616
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 14: of football. Some people bring in Gronk, Tony Gonzalez, the

1617
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 14: at Travis kelf course, but you're in the conversation yourself,

1618
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 14: and you know, because you're breathren. I mean, they give

1619
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 14: you bad love and respect. Right, I can say that.

1620
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 14: But my point to you is is that if somebody

1621
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 14: said you weren't number one, you don't feeling so, so

1622
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 14: why you got to be insulted the.

1623
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: Because that's the motion that but the goal.

1624
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 2: You told me your storm was coming.

1625
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: See, your storm happened for nine years, then took two

1626
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: years off, and it happened for three years, It took

1627
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: another three years off and then it kind of just

1628
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: like drizzling my thought storm being going for twenty one

1629
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: years raining.

1630
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 14: You could say that that my retort to that would

1631
01:13:54,680 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 14: be six NBA Finals losses, six of losses on six

1632
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 14: finals losses six.

1633
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: I just want you to tell me one thing, and

1634
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: were going to make this sure, tell me the team

1635
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: that he faced that was the twenty seventeen or the

1636
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Golden State Warriors.

1637
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

1638
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 9: I don't want to say your question Michael Jordan.

1639
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: Tell me the team with Michael Jordans.

1640
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me the team that Michael

1641
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: Jordan faced that was the equivalent of the seventeen eighteen No.

1642
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 9: One Can I respond to that?

1643
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 7: Sure?

1644
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 9: Can I say why? No? One? Do you know why?

1645
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 14: Because none no that's exactly what okay, sex see that's

1646
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 14: the ultimate equalizer or usurper picked whichever one you want

1647
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 14: to you want to pick? Do you don't understand that

1648
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 14: Jordan is six and oh and NBA Finals? You understand

1649
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 14: that Jordan was m VP O six NBA frontalcuse you

1650
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 14: understand that Jordan never even allowed the finals.

1651
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 9: Series to go seven games? Yes, said, I.

1652
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 2: Never win seven game. Also also, he just started going

1653
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 2: to the finals because I burned.

1654
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 14: Back with excusually ten time NBA scoring champion, nine times.

1655
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 9: All Defensive Player, all the defensive first team. You do

1656
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 9: know that, right?

1657
01:14:58,760 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1658
01:14:59,320 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 5: So?

1659
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 9: So in other words, it was Lebron on both sides

1660
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 9: of the ball. Was he that dominant?

1661
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

1662
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 2: You know he should have won it? You know he

1663
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: should want Are you kidding, Steve? Give me this?

1664
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 5: You know?

1665
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: Goodwell, Lebron James should have one defensive Player.

1666
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 2: Of the year.

1667
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: How does how does Margasol, who's the second team All

1668
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: Defensive player be Defensive Player of the Year.

1669
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 9: I agree with that. I agree with that.

1670
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 14: But the flip side to it is that as we

1671
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 14: watched Lebron James, even with his greatness at one point

1672
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 14: in time as a defensive player. We never looked at

1673
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 14: him and said, oh my god, that's that dude. Defensively

1674
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 14: you had you had no lebron is universally respected and revered.

1675
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 9: MJ was feared. You know the difference.

1676
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 14: You know the difference because there are people who have

1677
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 14: feared you. You know the difference better than me. You

1678
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 14: know the difference between reverence and fear. Look, you know this.

1679
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 14: You like John Wick. I like James John can I

1680
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 14: have James j but you could be John Waick.

1681
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 9: I preferred James Bond.

1682
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: John shot up the whole place, kill everybody. Okay, James

1683
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: Bond killed a few people, but got the ladies.

1684
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: They do the same.

1685
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 9: That's right when Holly rememb when Holly Berry was walking

1686
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 9: talking out of the ocean and he said, magnificent view.

1687
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 9: Remember that it's more and that was where you know

1688
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 9: that that's that's stuff and stuff like Pierce Brosdon. But

1689
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 9: you know Daniel Craig, of course, Sean Connery, the man. Okay,

1690
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 9: I mean I'm trying.

1691
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 14: To say the versatility of James Bond is with James,

1692
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 14: and you could say that.

1693
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: But one through five you see him do it.

1694
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 9: I'm not denying that.

1695
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: John Park on one end and the last five minutes

1696
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: I got Timmy.

1697
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 14: I also saw him get checked when Jason Terry was

1698
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 14: guarding him in the post and his finals against Dallas.

1699
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 9: You going to deny that?

1700
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 5: No, Okay?

1701
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 14: Then, so question, has there ever been a time when

1702
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 14: Michael Jordan showed up in the NBA Finals and you

1703
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 14: literally looked at him and said, yo, he show.

1704
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: Up here playing nobody on. Let me ask your question.

1705
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do you like this here?

1706
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: Tell me the guy that he faced that deal was

1707
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: the equivalent of Kevin Durant and.

1708
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 14: Jordan Well I was the current I would have said,

1709
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 14: I wouldn't say the equivalent of of Kevin Durant.

1710
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 9: But let's go down the list. He beat Magic for his.

1711
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: First time, but I think, what's seventy three?

1712
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 14: Okay, I find I'm going I'm going down the list

1713
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 14: the list. I didn't hear you say that when Magic

1714
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 14: was here.

1715
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 5: But we're talking about you.

1716
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: Say that Magic, that the man that go on the

1717
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: ninth nine.

1718
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 14: Finals, and I feel you on that. And by the

1719
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 14: way he took and wasn't Kareeman worthy.

1720
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: But you saw what he did joined in the first

1721
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 1: game put a triple double on the head to put

1722
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: Scot on it. That's cool, Okay, say he backed the

1723
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: made it.

1724
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: Look like Kareem and tom Well Jones.

1725
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 14: Okay, fit, that's fair, Michael Joe, I'm sorry, Magic Johnson.

1726
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 14: The first title, Clyde Drexler and the Crew, the second title,

1727
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 14: Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, don't ignore that, Damn Mally and them.

1728
01:17:53,840 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 14: The third Okay, Okay, Peyton the Glove with Sean camp Also,

1729
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 14: you got called Malone John Stockton, and you have an

1730
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 14: NBA game that was considerably tougher at that particular moment

1731
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 14: in time than today's NBA game is in terms of

1732
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 14: physicality and what's allowed.

1733
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 9: Yes, so you can appreciate this.

1734
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 14: You can appreciate that before you could put your when

1735
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 14: you could put the four on on people, when you

1736
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 14: can hand check them, when you can do a lot

1737
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 14: of things you can't do now.

1738
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 9: Right now you're getting called for passing gas.

1739
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: You will, but it's a different game now. But he's Steven, Okay.

1740
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: What you and the Old School Guard have equated physicality

1741
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: with talent and skill the gathering.

1742
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Speaker 2: Game more skill.

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Speaker 9: I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that.

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Speaker 14: But you would know this better than me because you

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01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 14: were an all world player. Even though the game of

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01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 14: the NFL has evolved significantly, you know good and damn

1747
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 14: well that if you were playing in this time.

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01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 9: Oh, you would have adapted.

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 14: Yes, you played in that time, you adapted the game

1750
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 14: in the sixties and seventies, you would have adapted to

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01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 14: the time. So what I'm trying to say to you

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01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 14: is this, Michael Jordan was what he needed to be.

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01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 14: If he was playing today, he would be what he

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01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 14: needed to be in order to be successful today.

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01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 9: That's all I'm trying to say.

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01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 14: When you see greatness on that level, you have to

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 14: concede that that's the case.

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Speaker 1: But see all they asked Michael do with the cook

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01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: Lebron had to cook, he had to clean, he had

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Speaker 1: to wait table, he had to take order.

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Speaker 14: Well, you could say that, but what I'm saying if

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01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 14: the brother's doing it on both sides of the Floorida,

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01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 14: then obviously he's doing more than one thing.

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Speaker 2: He's doing that too.

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: But how many guys you know that on Top five

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01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: and Top five?

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01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 9: How about this?

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 14: How about once Shaquille O'Neil with Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson,

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 14: three D, Dennis Scott and those boys, Yeah, going Orlando, Right,

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01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 14: how about the fact that they could even get the

1771
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 14: ball pass half court because Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan

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01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 14: had him on locket.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, with val full corpors, we end up see Lebron

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01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 9: do that. We never see Lebron do that. Bron, stop it.

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 9: He never did it.

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01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: He did MVP. Y'all voted d Rolls the m v P.

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Speaker 1: What you doing to the playoff?

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01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 9: Excuse me?

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01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 14: Excuse me, d Rose, what kind of team did Yeah?

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01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,480
Speaker 14: You come tell me knowing those boys was appointed?

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01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 2: Was a number they did enough to get the number

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01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: one seed? Say that?

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 9: So what?

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01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 14: I voted him in VP and still picked Miami to

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01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 14: win that series. I knew they want to go beat

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01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 14: Miami in the best of seventh. The playoffs are different,

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01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 14: all right, But that don't mean Lebron deserve the MVP.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 14: By the way, I don't even knock Lebron James for

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01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 14: not getting the MVP, because when you're that great, you're

1791
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 14: not gonna put all your efforts in over.

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 9: Eighty two games.

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Speaker 14: You're playing for April Man and j So this is

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,839
Speaker 14: entirely possible. I'm very fair of Lebron.

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01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 9: Ja if your dollars sometimes most times, most times, actually

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Speaker 9: I say all it's just that I call it like

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01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 9: I see it. I'm not emotional like you.

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Speaker 1: No, I like you know what, I got a call

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01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 1: to date for one Michael Jordan. He rolled up on

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Speaker 1: me in a black ass UV roll the winner.

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Speaker 9: That's true, that's true. Yeah, I was scary. I thought

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01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 9: he was gonna shoot. Thought I thought was a drive by.

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01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 9: It was in them the drive by, scared of living

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01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 9: hell out of me.

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Speaker 14: You still say, I mean, that's that, That's an absolutely

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01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 14: true story. But at the end of the day, all

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01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 14: I'm trying to say is that Lebron is phenomenal.

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01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 9: He's great. We should throw no shade on him.

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01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 14: One of the greatest ever Top B top three, you

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01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 14: say it, one of.

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Speaker 9: H He will never be greater than Jordan to me.

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 14: But more importantly, let's go to Koreem nineteen time All Star,

1813
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 14: six time league MVP champion on the high school left

1814
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 14: get champion, champion in the NBA. Okay, good lord at me,

1815
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 14: all top leader scorer before Lebron's had passed him.

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Speaker 9: All of that stuff happened.

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Speaker 14: I'm just saying, come on, now, the resume is better,

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 14: but I still don't believe he was the player that

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01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 14: Lebron James is.

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Speaker 2: All right, but what I.

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Speaker 14: Hold and I'll say this to you, I'll tell you

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01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 14: something that I very really said.

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01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 9: If you took Lebron james career from.

1824
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 14: Twenty twelve to now and that was his history from

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01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 14: his first title to what he is now, and you

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01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 14: wanted to make an argument against Jordan, I'm listening. The

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01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 14: problem is we don't get to ignore those first seven

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Speaker 14: or eight years where there were a couple of occasions

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01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 14: where one he was accused of quitting and number and.

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Speaker 9: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: By the no, I don't believe that.

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, no no, I'm talking about this. I got you,

1833
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 9: but I feel you. But it's true. But it's still

1834
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 9: excused me of drunkard. But the point is, no, no, against Boston.

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Speaker 9: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 5: It was a lot of.

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Speaker 14: Stuff going on Lebraun. That's none of our business. That

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01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 14: people they were totally unfair to him, including this damn teammates.

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01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 14: But that's a different story for another day. I never

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01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 14: held that against him. But when you got four games

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01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 14: against the Dallas Mavericks.

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01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 9: In which people looked at you and said, choke. You

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01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 9: know what you cannot get past.

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01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 6: I can't.

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01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: I can't argue that. I can't argue that.

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01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 14: And that to me, that to me sealed the deal

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 14: about the MJ Lebron companion.

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Speaker 1: So what what what if he wants to win a

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01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: title this year, no matter thirty nine years of.

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Speaker 9: Age, So so that don't to race Jordan.

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01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: That interesting that you go.

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01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: See, that's the argument that people have when I was

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01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: talking about Tom Brady not playing well, I'm not trying

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01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: to take away with Jordan's accomplished. I agree, he got

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01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: those rings, he got six finals MVP, he has six championship,

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01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: he has five regular season MVP corct. If Lebron gets

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Speaker 1: another title, Stephen A, I'm not gonna race what Jordan did.

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: But he already he already here from me, Okay, all

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01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: he doing is just.

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Speaker 14: But but what I'm saying to you is I already

1861
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 14: talked about the Dallas thing, and I talked about moments

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01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 14: which you can appreciate.

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Speaker 9: What I'm trying to.

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01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 14: Say to you is that when you are that dude,

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01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 14: that doesn't happen to you often that happened to magic

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 14: when they call them tragic, because yeah, thirty four, you

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01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 14: get all of that, you understand what I'm saying, But

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01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 14: for the most part, that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 9: And this is the kind of thing that you also

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01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 9: have to pay attention to as well.

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Speaker 14: Not only do you not get to say that about Jordan,

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 14: but when you look at Lebron, think about this. You

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01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 14: want me to tell you what I hold against him,

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01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 14: just as much as I held against the Dallas before.

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01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 9: What the following year with the All Star Game. You

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01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 9: got the ball in your hands. It's an exhibition. It's

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01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 9: an exhibition. It doesn't count.

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 14: It's all in fun. Kobe claps his hand, God Rest

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01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 14: his soul, like, Yo, let's come on.

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: Wait.

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01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 14: You got d Wade on the court, you got Mellow

1882
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 14: in the corner, and he threw the past and all

1883
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 14: three of them, along with Kobe, descended on Lebron and said, Yo,

1884
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 14: what's up what you're doing? Because they knew he was

1885
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 14: psyched out, he was messed up. And what I'm saying

1886
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 14: to you is that Kobe wasn't like that. MJ wasn't

1887
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 14: like that. It's d Wade wasn't like that. In his

1888
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 14: first NBA Finals appearance, they down Owe to the Dallas

1889
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 14: d Wade goes Berserk averages thirty seven in the last

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01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 14: four games. I'm just saying it's stuff like that. It's

1891
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 14: not that you look at Lebron and you diminish him.

1892
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 14: It's just that you can't elevate him above somebody like

1893
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 14: MJ when I got that evidence to support my argument,

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01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 14: that's all, and that's why I got a number two author.

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01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 9: God strike me down. I mean, my lord, I'll mean

1896
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 9: what it insult. I mean, the number two all time

1897
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 9: in the history of the game, and it's an insult.

1898
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 9: Only you and Rich Paul.

1899
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 14: And people like that feel that way, most of us

1900
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 14: saying individuals know better.

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01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 2: No, you know what to do.

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01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,519
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