1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:06,410 Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can have. 3 00:00:08,090 --> 00:00:10,310 Speaker 1: Because for the first time in your life, you're making 4 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:13,710 Speaker 1: a decision that's going to be best for you and 5 00:00:13,750 --> 00:00:16,470 Speaker 1: not what somebody told you to do. And that's when 6 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:19,970 Speaker 1: all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. 7 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:23,230 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rashawn McDonald. Our theme is there's no 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,300 Speaker 1: perfect time to start following your dreams. I recognize that 9 00:00:26,340 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: we all have different definitions of success for you and 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,620 Speaker 1: maybe the size of your paycheck. It's time to stop 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,220 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start living your own. 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:43,790 Speaker 1: Keep winning. You heard it. Stop reading other people's success 13 00:00:43,830 --> 00:00:45,850 Speaker 1: stories and start living your own. What does that mean? 14 00:00:46,030 --> 00:00:48,630 Speaker 1: That means that a lot of people out there are dreaming. 15 00:00:49,170 --> 00:00:50,850 Speaker 1: Without a plan. That means a lot of people out 16 00:00:50,890 --> 00:00:55,700 Speaker 1: there are trying to establish hope without a plan. They're 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,860 Speaker 1: going out there on faith without a plan or budget. 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,100 Speaker 1: I've done that. Believe me, I'm not pointing a finger 19 00:01:02,260 --> 00:01:03,940 Speaker 1: at you because, you know, say when you point a finger, 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,020 Speaker 1: the thumb points back at you. So when I when 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,670 Speaker 1: I talk to you about this show and I talk 22 00:01:08,690 --> 00:01:12,370 Speaker 1: about the advantages of listening to a guy who's made mistakes, 23 00:01:12,470 --> 00:01:15,010 Speaker 1: listen to the guy who some people have said he's successful. 24 00:01:15,030 --> 00:01:18,030 Speaker 1: I don't judge my success by saying I'm successful. I 25 00:01:18,050 --> 00:01:20,290 Speaker 1: let you be the judge. And by doing that, then 26 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:23,289 Speaker 1: I can come across as an honest person who's only 27 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:25,710 Speaker 1: an example. You can follow my leads or you can 28 00:01:25,730 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: listen to my advice. Either way, it's been written etched 29 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:31,860 Speaker 1: in stone. Like I said, I'm not asking you to 30 00:01:31,900 --> 00:01:34,020 Speaker 1: follow me on social media. I was asking you to 31 00:01:34,060 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: hear what I got to say. And I want you 32 00:01:35,740 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: to hear what I got to say when I bring 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,310 Speaker 1: guests on that I feel have value, can create a 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,070 Speaker 1: goal in your life that can make your life a 35 00:01:42,110 --> 00:01:45,130 Speaker 1: lot simpler or relatable. My guest is an accomplished person. 36 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:47,730 Speaker 1: Interior designer. This is the first time I have an 37 00:01:47,910 --> 00:01:50,670 Speaker 1: interior designer on my show. And I'm one of these people. 38 00:01:50,690 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll show you some of my interior designers. I think 39 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. But, you know, I have a weird 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:02,330 Speaker 1: way of doing it. With expertise in spanning into kitchens, bathrooms, renovations, 41 00:02:03,110 --> 00:02:09,110 Speaker 1: art consultation, and writing. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass, 42 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:11,739 Speaker 1: the one and only, Melody Vaughn. How you doing, Melody? 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,450 Speaker 2: Wow, what a great intro. I appreciate that. I am wonderful. 44 00:02:15,610 --> 00:02:19,910 Speaker 2: And by the way, as an interior designer, I can 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,690 Speaker 2: often tell person's decor by their wardrobe, and you're quite spiffy, sir. 46 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:28,530 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I'm one of these people, when I 47 00:02:28,570 --> 00:02:30,130 Speaker 1: cook in the kitchen, I clean as I go. 48 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:31,030 Speaker 3: Ah, I see. 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: So if you could take that away from my look, 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,140 Speaker 1: I'm a guy who, on the go, you get in 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,500 Speaker 1: my truck or my car, it's clean. 52 00:02:37,620 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,820 Speaker 1: No more throwing trash in the back seat. 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,220 Speaker 2: Right. 55 00:02:40,460 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Or the ashtray's got... No, no. Love that. I clean 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:43,710 Speaker 1: as I go. 57 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:44,250 Speaker 2: Love that. 58 00:02:44,310 --> 00:02:47,350 Speaker 1: And I think that when I... My whole thing, I'm 59 00:02:47,370 --> 00:02:51,430 Speaker 1: a visual person. I'm talking to an expert in interior design. 60 00:02:51,470 --> 00:02:54,290 Speaker 1: So now I can talk about what I see. 61 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: Love it. 62 00:02:55,010 --> 00:02:58,530 Speaker 1: And so when I go into a room, I just 63 00:02:58,590 --> 00:03:02,970 Speaker 1: start visualizing that space. Talk about how you go about 64 00:03:03,010 --> 00:03:03,649 Speaker 1: doing it. 65 00:03:03,669 --> 00:03:10,070 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, I tell you, to me, homes are living beings. 66 00:03:10,650 --> 00:03:14,510 Speaker 2: Homes have heartbeats. They have rhythm. And when I go 67 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:18,489 Speaker 2: into a space, I see the potential in it. I 68 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: incorporate feng shui. So I always look for... What's feng shui? 69 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,019 Speaker 2: Feng shui is an Asian form of incorporating design. It's 70 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: called a bagua. Every corner has a purpose. Your prosperity corner, 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,330 Speaker 2: your family corner, et cetera, and so forth. But I 72 00:03:33,370 --> 00:03:36,730 Speaker 2: incorporate a little bit of all of those spiritualities and 73 00:03:37,010 --> 00:03:41,250 Speaker 2: consciousness into design. But I go from a practical standpoint being... 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: Who lives here? How's the space going to be functioned? 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: What color exuberant certain energies like blue is calming and 76 00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:53,790 Speaker 2: green is prosperity. And so all of those kind of 77 00:03:53,810 --> 00:03:54,630 Speaker 2: tie into the overall design. 78 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:56,450 Speaker 1: So you wouldn't want to walk into a red room. 79 00:03:56,990 --> 00:04:01,430 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not mad at a red room. That's energy, exciting, passion, love. Hey, listen. 80 00:04:01,890 --> 00:04:03,730 Speaker 1: What room I shouldn't walk in? A black room? 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:05,630 Speaker 3: You know what? 82 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: It's more so the purpose in which you're entering the room. 83 00:04:08,660 --> 00:04:08,820 Speaker 3: Okay. 84 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:08,940 Speaker 4: Okay. 85 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: So if you're going into a bedroom and you want 86 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:14,940 Speaker 2: to relax, then you want to be aware of certain 87 00:04:14,980 --> 00:04:18,270 Speaker 2: colors that are more energetic, like a bright yellow or 88 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:20,289 Speaker 2: bright orange. So what your purpose. 89 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:21,310 Speaker 1: That's not a relaxing color. 90 00:04:21,330 --> 00:04:24,610 Speaker 2: That's not a relaxing. That's energetic. That's energetic. 91 00:04:24,930 --> 00:04:27,510 Speaker 1: Just ignore the yellow on your walls. Yeah, no. 92 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:31,670 Speaker 2: Color is power. And spurge replacement, how rhythms flow and 93 00:04:31,710 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: how the air flows throughout a room. All of that. Really, 94 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:37,900 Speaker 2: that's what design is all about. Color theory, space planning, 95 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. 96 00:04:38,620 --> 00:04:41,810 Speaker 1: So how did, academic-wise, where did you go to college? 97 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,050 Speaker 1: Is that what you did in college? 98 00:04:43,150 --> 00:04:43,450 Speaker 2: No. 99 00:04:43,570 --> 00:04:43,830 Speaker 4: Wow. 100 00:04:43,910 --> 00:04:49,010 Speaker 2: So I attempted my school journey, HBCU, fam, shout out. 101 00:04:49,550 --> 00:04:50,210 Speaker 2: I was one of those. 102 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:50,770 Speaker 1: You're a rattler. 103 00:04:50,830 --> 00:04:52,150 Speaker 2: I'm a rattler. Yeah, man, listen. 104 00:04:52,270 --> 00:04:53,219 Speaker 1: Was it orange and green? 105 00:04:53,339 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: Orange and green, which are very strong colors, prosperity and happiness. 106 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, I attended fam and hung out there. One 107 00:05:00,660 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: of those. I'm a Rattler heart, never quite graduating, but listen, 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: I'm a Rattler baby. And my purpose was public relations 109 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:12,130 Speaker 2: and journalism. But I got caught up into the work 110 00:05:12,190 --> 00:05:15,830 Speaker 2: world and moved to Atlanta and was a manager for 111 00:05:15,850 --> 00:05:19,410 Speaker 2: The Gap, which I didn't really mention, and got into 112 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:21,469 Speaker 2: the art world, did some volunteering at the Apex. 113 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:24,669 Speaker 1: You said the art world. When you say that, what 114 00:05:24,690 --> 00:05:25,169 Speaker 1: does that mean? 115 00:05:25,470 --> 00:05:29,150 Speaker 2: Well, I was a docent at the Apex Museum. I'm 116 00:05:29,190 --> 00:05:32,230 Speaker 2: sending love to Dan Moore, who's recently transitioned. But the 117 00:05:32,350 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 2: Apex Museum was my first introduction into art on the 118 00:05:36,860 --> 00:05:37,460 Speaker 2: Atlanta scene. 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Because your college was writing and journalism. 120 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:41,849 Speaker 2: Yep. And then Atlanta was the art. 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,100 Speaker 1: The power of the word. 122 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,339 Speaker 2: Listen, I journal even now. I have been working on 123 00:05:48,380 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: a book for a minute. 124 00:05:49,339 --> 00:05:49,979 Speaker 1: Okay. 125 00:05:50,470 --> 00:05:53,790 Speaker 2: I think we all have a story to tell. And 126 00:05:53,850 --> 00:05:57,150 Speaker 2: what I like to do in my writing is share 127 00:05:57,310 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: what I know with the world. At one point for 128 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:04,260 Speaker 2: Rolling Out, there was a segment called Space Invasions. And 129 00:06:04,300 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: I would share trends about what the current trends are 130 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,390 Speaker 2: in the design world and how best to utilize interior designers. 131 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:15,350 Speaker 2: So I did Space Invasions with Rolling Out. under Munson's 132 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:20,169 Speaker 2: deed for about three or four years. Um, and hopefully 133 00:06:20,210 --> 00:06:22,029 Speaker 2: you can do something. I'm working on a couple other 134 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:23,529 Speaker 2: type of, cause. 135 00:06:23,310 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about, you know, writing with 136 00:06:26,660 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: AI coming out now, yeah, yeah. You know, like this 137 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,100 Speaker 1: young lady, I think recently she used Grammarly for her, um, 138 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,300 Speaker 1: for her report and she got kicked out of school 139 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:40,390 Speaker 1: because of Grammarly. And I use Grammarly for corrections. 140 00:06:40,470 --> 00:06:40,710 Speaker 2: Yeah. 141 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:43,850 Speaker 1: And the, and the, and the professor says she was cheating. 142 00:06:43,970 --> 00:06:44,190 Speaker 2: Right. 143 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: And then I remember they said that Sports Illustrated, I believe, 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: was using AI in a lot of their articles. Now, 145 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,260 Speaker 1: when you hear that, and you're a writer? 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:54,990 Speaker 2: Yeah. 147 00:06:55,580 --> 00:06:58,310 Speaker 1: Are you mad? Not at all. I'm like, help me. 148 00:07:00,730 --> 00:07:03,750 Speaker 2: In truth, I tell you, even AI when it relates 149 00:07:03,810 --> 00:07:08,770 Speaker 2: to design, first of all, you have to tell AI 150 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:09,650 Speaker 2: what you want. 151 00:07:09,910 --> 00:07:10,130 Speaker 1: Right. 152 00:07:10,210 --> 00:07:13,410 Speaker 2: So there's that. And then second, when it comes to design, 153 00:07:13,910 --> 00:07:17,790 Speaker 2: you can source renderings, you can source design concepts, but 154 00:07:17,830 --> 00:07:22,190 Speaker 2: you still need a human being to do the logistics, 155 00:07:22,590 --> 00:07:26,010 Speaker 2: to actually install, to do the work behind the renderings 156 00:07:26,110 --> 00:07:29,450 Speaker 2: or the design concepts. And when it comes to writing, yeah, 157 00:07:29,470 --> 00:07:33,350 Speaker 2: I think these, on some levels, we're getting away from 158 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:36,970 Speaker 2: what we've done as far as sourcing for writing materials. 159 00:07:37,210 --> 00:07:40,850 Speaker 2: But I think also AI is sharpening the writing skills 160 00:07:41,010 --> 00:07:43,270 Speaker 2: because AI, If you write something and you're using the 161 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:46,450 Speaker 2: wrong terms or diction, AI will come. 162 00:07:46,490 --> 00:07:47,290 Speaker 1: Helps me out. 163 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: Definitely. 164 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Because I'm going to tell you, it helps me. Because 165 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:54,930 Speaker 1: I'm always communicating. I'm always emailing individuals. And grammarly, it 166 00:07:54,970 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: helps me out knowing that. My letter structure, typos, it 167 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,980 Speaker 1: catches a lot of typos. 168 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: Exactly. 169 00:08:00,260 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Because a lot of people send you emails, please excuse 170 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: my typos. Well, hopefully Grammarly is fixing that for me. 171 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:06,870 Speaker 2: We'll catch it, yeah. 172 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,310 Speaker 1: Don't excuse nothing over here. I'm hoping I'm sending you 173 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:11,170 Speaker 1: a structure only through Grammarly. 174 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:11,490 Speaker 2: Yeah. 175 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:14,910 Speaker 1: And so in the design world, like I said, you're 176 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:15,670 Speaker 1: Radley at heart. 177 00:08:15,750 --> 00:08:15,950 Speaker 2: Yes. 178 00:08:16,290 --> 00:08:16,810 Speaker 1: Journalism. 179 00:08:16,850 --> 00:08:16,950 Speaker 2: Yes. 180 00:08:17,010 --> 00:08:17,870 Speaker 1: Moved to Atlanta. 181 00:08:17,910 --> 00:08:18,150 Speaker 2: Yes. 182 00:08:18,370 --> 00:08:22,650 Speaker 1: Okay. We still, this whole interior design background. Where did 183 00:08:22,690 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: this come from? 184 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,620 Speaker 2: I know. Well, my father was a landscaper. I was 185 00:08:27,700 --> 00:08:29,220 Speaker 2: born in New York, but grew up in Florida. 186 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: Okay. 187 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:32,780 Speaker 2: So, in moving to Florida, my father's only job, really, 188 00:08:32,820 --> 00:08:35,970 Speaker 2: he could get would be cutting grass. A landscaper. And 189 00:08:36,010 --> 00:08:40,790 Speaker 2: he took that and created a company, Lawson Brown Landscape. 190 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: And would go to these huge homes. I, as a child, 191 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: would sneak in and see how beautiful they were to 192 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: be designed. And I would run home and kind of 193 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,590 Speaker 2: try to recreate it. And I always had that little 194 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:54,089 Speaker 2: love for design, but never really gave it a title. 195 00:08:54,110 --> 00:08:57,510 Speaker 2: Because I never saw anybody of color doing interior design. 196 00:08:58,170 --> 00:09:00,670 Speaker 2: The first black interior designer in the Florida area was 197 00:09:00,710 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: Cecil Hayes. And she was out of the Fort Lauderdale, Miami. 198 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,010 Speaker 2: She did a lot of the superstar homes there. And 199 00:09:07,070 --> 00:09:10,450 Speaker 2: then in New York, the brother who actually started the 200 00:09:10,490 --> 00:09:12,709 Speaker 2: movement for interior designer was based out of New York 201 00:09:12,730 --> 00:09:15,429 Speaker 2: and D.C. Just an average, hey, I'm an interior designer 202 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:17,380 Speaker 2: and I'm a person of color. I didn't see that 203 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: growing up. So I didn't know it was possible. It 204 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:24,340 Speaker 2: wasn't until life shifts, changing from corporate America because I 205 00:09:24,380 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: was working with GE and got laid off, went through 206 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:29,370 Speaker 2: a divorce, all of this happening. And I came back. 207 00:09:29,490 --> 00:09:32,450 Speaker 2: What brings me joy? And that's when I sat still 208 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: and I realized that design was my heartbeat. 209 00:09:35,620 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: You said a lot there. That was about 20 years 210 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,699 Speaker 1: worth of conversation. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? 211 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: Roll it all up. I'm going to. 212 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Slow you down. You are not going to do my 213 00:09:44,780 --> 00:09:52,109 Speaker 1: show like this. Just shorthand my show. LOL and LIL. 214 00:09:52,170 --> 00:09:55,770 Speaker 2: Hey, we're millennial. 215 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:58,070 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go back for a minute 216 00:09:58,090 --> 00:10:00,140 Speaker 1: when you was talking about going to these homes. I 217 00:10:00,170 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: remember in high school, my friends, we was going, my 218 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,940 Speaker 1: little beat up little car. And we used to go 219 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:07,740 Speaker 1: in all these neighborhoods that we couldn't afford. And I 220 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: would just see houses. I would just see yard designs. 221 00:10:11,260 --> 00:10:11,700 Speaker 3: Yeah. 222 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:15,620 Speaker 1: And just see. And that really stayed with me. And 223 00:10:15,660 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: I always would recommend people, you know, you can't have 224 00:10:19,580 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a dream if you don't know where to start. 225 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: Exactly. 226 00:10:21,980 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And so that was my 227 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: starting point. 228 00:10:24,740 --> 00:10:25,140 Speaker 2: I love it. 229 00:10:25,179 --> 00:10:29,099 Speaker 1: Seeing things. What is your dream? I always tell people. 230 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:31,390 Speaker 1: You don't have a dream unless you have a starting 231 00:10:31,429 --> 00:10:34,910 Speaker 1: point or a goal. And so early on, my dream 232 00:10:34,970 --> 00:10:38,170 Speaker 1: was I would look at car magazines and look at 233 00:10:38,210 --> 00:10:40,429 Speaker 1: these different cars that I couldn't afford. And I like 234 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:42,140 Speaker 1: to believe that those cars I saw in high school, 235 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm driving today. And the same thing. And I think 236 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,020 Speaker 1: that when I look at the homes that I see 237 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,190 Speaker 1: out there, It's been blessed in my life because I 238 00:10:52,250 --> 00:10:54,890 Speaker 1: had a goal in high school and I would drive 239 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:57,710 Speaker 1: and I remember police would run me out of the neighborhood. 240 00:10:57,730 --> 00:11:02,850 Speaker 1: Why are you over here? Sir, I'm leaving. Because with 241 00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:06,089 Speaker 1: all those memories and I would look at, you know, Arnie's, 242 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:08,670 Speaker 1: I look at Wolf Edges, I look at Edges and 243 00:11:08,770 --> 00:11:11,730 Speaker 1: all that stuff. And it really... It really is what 244 00:11:11,790 --> 00:11:14,990 Speaker 1: my foundation is to setting goals for my personal life. 245 00:11:15,070 --> 00:11:15,630 Speaker 2: I love that. 246 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:16,460 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 247 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,620 Speaker 2: Totally, totally. And you hit on something as far as 248 00:11:18,929 --> 00:11:22,900 Speaker 2: the roof lines and the angles. It's like a gentleman's suit. 249 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,980 Speaker 2: The certain cuts and the angles on a suit is 250 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,350 Speaker 2: how the actual home structure. And you also mentioned. Seeing 251 00:11:30,429 --> 00:11:32,070 Speaker 2: it and then now you're living it. 252 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:32,500 Speaker 4: Right. 253 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: Vision boards. And that's, you know, from a spiritual standpoint, 254 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: people talk about vision boards. 255 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: Right. 256 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Cut it out and that's what you. Well, you're triggering 257 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,420 Speaker 2: your mind that this is what I want to achieve. 258 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,140 Speaker 2: And if you don't have a goal or something to 259 00:11:44,179 --> 00:11:47,490 Speaker 2: move towards, then it's hard to actually achieve it. That's 260 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,010 Speaker 2: where design concepts come in. As a designer person, I 261 00:11:51,050 --> 00:11:53,990 Speaker 2: don't know what I like. Well, here, let's create a 262 00:11:54,030 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: Pinterest board or give me some of your favorite colors. 263 00:11:57,059 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: Let me create a rendering or design concept, and then 264 00:12:00,860 --> 00:12:03,030 Speaker 2: we'll build from that. So it's the same thing. You 265 00:12:03,050 --> 00:12:05,130 Speaker 2: have an empty shell of a room. And then now 266 00:12:05,390 --> 00:12:07,810 Speaker 2: this is your sofa. This is your light fixture and 267 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:10,189 Speaker 2: all these other elements and create that story. 268 00:12:10,410 --> 00:12:12,030 Speaker 1: You know, because I really want to have my show 269 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: was really dedicated to AI. 270 00:12:13,580 --> 00:12:14,100 Speaker 2: I love that. 271 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Because of the fact that I think it's a term 272 00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:20,580 Speaker 1: that's being used to scare people. Because I always tell people, 273 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,810 Speaker 1: if you type in, where's my where's my favorite dog 274 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:26,569 Speaker 1: food store? Press enter. That's AI. Yeah. OK. 275 00:12:26,610 --> 00:12:26,770 Speaker 2: Yes. 276 00:12:27,470 --> 00:12:29,170 Speaker 1: Any GPS system is AI. 277 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:29,510 Speaker 4: Yes. 278 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:29,670 Speaker 3: OK. 279 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: When you sit down and you, like you said, you know, 280 00:12:33,780 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: you look at any home designer show, they just show 281 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: you these little movements. The chair comes in, wall becomes, 282 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,900 Speaker 1: that's AI. And so you are saying early on, you went, 283 00:12:46,179 --> 00:12:49,090 Speaker 1: bring it on, baby, bring it on. You know, because 284 00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:52,030 Speaker 1: I think that in life, we are all moving so fast. 285 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:56,429 Speaker 1: We need that creative source versus sitting around trying to, 286 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:59,830 Speaker 1: put stencils something in black and white and hold it 287 00:13:00,030 --> 00:13:02,570 Speaker 1: up and write it somewhere hold it up life doesn't 288 00:13:02,610 --> 00:13:03,910 Speaker 1: work like that correct. 289 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:07,290 Speaker 2: Correct a hundred percent and one thing I you know 290 00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm one of those persons where I'm like if this 291 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,740 Speaker 2: is what I have bring it on and then let 292 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: me work with it to me I AI artificial intelligence 293 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: is a jewel we just have to learn how to 294 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,930 Speaker 2: let it work with us versus working against us. 295 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Okay. My question, talking to the jewel here, how did 296 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,860 Speaker 1: you get into interior design? I heard the dad story. 297 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 298 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:32,140 Speaker 1: Then you went to marriage, took two kids, moved back. 299 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm here. Okay, now, how did you, my friend, you 300 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: went Rattler, didn't finish, Atlanta brought you here. How did 301 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,059 Speaker 1: you get into interior design? 302 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: Well, truth be told, my girlfriends would always call me 303 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 2: over to their homes because they know I would sit 304 00:13:47,740 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: there and say, can I do this? And I would 305 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:53,590 Speaker 2: move their furniture around. So I've always done it. How 306 00:13:53,630 --> 00:13:56,270 Speaker 2: do I make it a career? I got a business card. 307 00:13:57,110 --> 00:14:00,790 Speaker 2: I started taking classes. I went back to school and 308 00:14:00,830 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: became a licensed certified interior designer. 309 00:14:03,170 --> 00:14:03,410 Speaker 3: Wow. 310 00:14:03,770 --> 00:14:07,060 Speaker 2: And I knew that it was a thing. Because, well, 311 00:14:07,340 --> 00:14:09,740 Speaker 2: when I got laid off, I took a Myers-Briggs test. 312 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,739 Speaker 2: And it said that I was a business person and 313 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: very creative. I'm going to bring them together. And I, 314 00:14:15,059 --> 00:14:17,350 Speaker 2: from that point, said I need school. So I went 315 00:14:17,370 --> 00:14:20,190 Speaker 2: back and got my degree. Certification interior design How long 316 00:14:20,210 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: was the certification? It was a two year window But 317 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,460 Speaker 2: I'm continually Sounds. 318 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Like a millennial You were a millennial Before millennial Okay. 319 00:14:27,260 --> 00:14:31,180 Speaker 2: But I'm continuously Going Education is key though Clark Atlanta 320 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:35,470 Speaker 2: HBCU I have more certifications In so many different arenas. 321 00:14:35,690 --> 00:14:37,190 Speaker 1: They call me to go to break. When we come back, 322 00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:40,030 Speaker 1: we're going to learn more about my millennial friend here. 323 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: You know, she started millennials. She gave me, this is 324 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:45,580 Speaker 1: the one, hell of the care. You don't have to 325 00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: finish in four years. Yeah. Start your life in two. 326 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:48,820 Speaker 1: There you go. 327 00:14:48,860 --> 00:14:49,180 Speaker 2: Get the work. 328 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,100 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to Melanie Vaughn and you're listening to Money 329 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:54,239 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass. Don't go nowhere. Please come back. 330 00:15:00,150 --> 00:15:03,730 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 331 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: with Rashaun McDonald. Welcome back to the Money-Making Conversations Masterclass 332 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: hosted by Rashawn McDonald. Money-Making Conversations Masterclass continues online at 333 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:23,380 Speaker 3: MoneyMakingConversations.com and follow Money-Making Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 334 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:27,730 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Melanie Vaughn, Melody Vaughn, in regards to 335 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:33,570 Speaker 1: interior design, renovation, art consultation. Let's just start this side 336 00:15:33,610 --> 00:15:34,350 Speaker 1: of the show off. 337 00:15:34,590 --> 00:15:35,010 Speaker 3: Okay. 338 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: I was once living in one of my houses with 339 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,700 Speaker 1: my wife and loved it. And then one day over 340 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,490 Speaker 1: a period of time, I didn't like the house. 341 00:15:43,620 --> 00:15:44,690 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 342 00:15:44,830 --> 00:15:45,470 Speaker 1: Is that normal? 343 00:15:45,550 --> 00:15:50,230 Speaker 2: Totally, completely. And it's also honest because oftentimes people are 344 00:15:50,270 --> 00:15:53,430 Speaker 2: in beautiful spaces and there's no need to shift. There's 345 00:15:53,450 --> 00:15:56,310 Speaker 2: no need to buy a new sofa or buy anything 346 00:15:56,350 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: new or paint because everything's perfect. But you've changed completely. 347 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,900 Speaker 2: So just like your skin sheds at seven years, your 348 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,540 Speaker 2: home decor and the energy of your home changes. And 349 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:08,030 Speaker 2: what I first recommend is move the furniture around a 350 00:16:08,050 --> 00:16:11,130 Speaker 2: little bit. At a minimum, paint the walls. But it's 351 00:16:11,190 --> 00:16:13,550 Speaker 2: time to just kind of stir up that energy again 352 00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:16,860 Speaker 2: and make a shift. Your needs may be different, whereas 353 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: before you might have... Not socialized and now you want 354 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: to have more cocktail gatherings. Or you have grandkids versus 355 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,580 Speaker 2: your children coming back from college. 356 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,859 Speaker 1: That's all me. 357 00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:31,740 Speaker 2: I just want to feel relaxed. Relaxed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 358 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: And somehow I was walking into that house and I 359 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,340 Speaker 1: wasn't relaxed anymore. Even though I should find my little... 360 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Zen spaces. Yeah, and I couldn't find them anymore or 361 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,300 Speaker 1: it felt either go upstairs to find Yeah, you know 362 00:16:46,330 --> 00:16:49,610 Speaker 1: go upstairs to find that Zen spot and so because 363 00:16:49,890 --> 00:16:53,670 Speaker 1: because as you get older Physically change you don't feel 364 00:16:53,690 --> 00:16:56,670 Speaker 1: like putting forth effort to do anything. So it's almost 365 00:16:56,690 --> 00:16:58,710 Speaker 1: like you want to to me Yeah, I do want 366 00:16:58,730 --> 00:17:01,310 Speaker 1: to come in the house Don't walk through my door 367 00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:01,910 Speaker 1: and fall in bed. 368 00:17:01,950 --> 00:17:02,130 Speaker 3: Yep. 369 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? 370 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:04,900 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I totally do. 371 00:17:05,340 --> 00:17:07,060 Speaker 1: But the bed got to be in the kitchen, be 372 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: next to the bathroom. 373 00:17:07,740 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 374 00:17:08,380 --> 00:17:09,700 Speaker 1: Almost what a cruise ship cabin. 375 00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: Yes. 376 00:17:10,140 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, COVID did that to a lot of us, though. 377 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,210 Speaker 2: It changed the way we live. So a lot of, 378 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: you know, during COVID, I did more school, living room, 379 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,790 Speaker 2: dining room setups. But you are 100% correct in that 380 00:17:23,030 --> 00:17:25,550 Speaker 2: you feel different in your space. And it is time 381 00:17:25,570 --> 00:17:26,550 Speaker 2: to hire an interior designer. 382 00:17:26,770 --> 00:17:26,970 Speaker 3: Okay. 383 00:17:26,990 --> 00:17:27,730 Speaker 1: That's where you're coming from. 384 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:29,250 Speaker 2: That's where I'm coming from. Okay, cool. 385 00:17:29,330 --> 00:17:32,689 Speaker 1: Now... I see a lot of advertising on TV about 386 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:34,030 Speaker 1: these walk-in toilets. 387 00:17:34,170 --> 00:17:34,410 Speaker 3: Yeah. 388 00:17:34,609 --> 00:17:39,369 Speaker 1: You open the door, shut the door, sit down, you're 389 00:17:39,410 --> 00:17:43,610 Speaker 1: in the tub. Yeah. Are those as popular as they 390 00:17:43,650 --> 00:17:44,189 Speaker 1: say they are? 391 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,540 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's an advertisement, so let's go 392 00:17:48,580 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: there first. 393 00:17:49,060 --> 00:17:50,139 Speaker 1: Okay. 394 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,940 Speaker 2: Actually, the biggest trend now are curbless showers, curbless bathrooms, 395 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: wet rooms, where there's literally no separation between the shower... 396 00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: The freestanding tub and the toilet area is like one 397 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: open space. And that's the direction a lot of homes 398 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,630 Speaker 2: are going to because we are living longer. And we're 399 00:18:10,670 --> 00:18:12,290 Speaker 2: needing that type of environment. 400 00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:13,060 Speaker 1: We really are living in the 90s. 401 00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:13,550 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 402 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:16,090 Speaker 2: We're living well into our 90s and doing it cute. 403 00:18:18,450 --> 00:18:21,270 Speaker 2: But that's one of the big trends. And those walk-in, 404 00:18:21,330 --> 00:18:24,510 Speaker 2: you know, we can revamp your bathroom. Yeah, that's possible. 405 00:18:24,869 --> 00:18:27,310 Speaker 2: But trust and believe in another five years, you may 406 00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:30,710 Speaker 2: need to do it again. And for those who have it, 407 00:18:30,730 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: it's a great, whoever thought of that idea, Kudos to 408 00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:35,150 Speaker 2: them because they're trillionaires at this point. 409 00:18:35,170 --> 00:18:36,030 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 410 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:40,230 Speaker 2: But the true trend and the true lifestyle change in 411 00:18:40,270 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: bathrooms is a full, fully tiled, it's called curbless or 412 00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:46,460 Speaker 2: frameless bathroom. 413 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: Now, your father did landscaping. 414 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: Yep, my dad was a landscaper. 415 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:51,379 Speaker 1: Now, you know, when one's about to sell the house, 416 00:18:51,740 --> 00:18:54,740 Speaker 1: they always have these, well, do landscape your yard. That 417 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:58,550 Speaker 1: ups your value. Do the kitchen. Do the bathroom. 418 00:18:59,210 --> 00:18:59,390 Speaker 3: What? 419 00:18:59,869 --> 00:19:01,909 Speaker 1: Ups the value of a house if you're trying to 420 00:19:01,950 --> 00:19:02,230 Speaker 1: sell it? 421 00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:05,570 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you asked that because I'm actually in 422 00:19:05,609 --> 00:19:08,530 Speaker 2: conversation with someone who's about to sell a $ 5 million 423 00:19:08,570 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: house and I'm like, you got to stage it. But 424 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:13,409 Speaker 2: the true values of homes now- When you say stage it, 425 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:17,460 Speaker 2: what do you mean? Staging means creating an environment, creating 426 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:20,460 Speaker 2: a design decor that anyone can say, oh, I could 427 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: live here. Meaning very neutral sofas, separate or acknowledging the space, 428 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: how large it is, how it can be functioned, how 429 00:19:27,420 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: it can be used. furniture, artwork, et cetera. But the 430 00:19:32,260 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: value comes in hardwood floors for resale, even though vinyl 431 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: are the rave. 432 00:19:37,460 --> 00:19:38,659 Speaker 1: Vinyl floors are the rave? 433 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,430 Speaker 2: Vinyl floors are, they are giving- Rage wear. Trust me. 434 00:19:44,609 --> 00:19:48,830 Speaker 2: All of these condos throughout Atlanta, hardwood floors, you're using, 435 00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: a lot of those are made up of vinyl flooring 436 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:52,170 Speaker 2: or engineer flooring. 437 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:54,409 Speaker 1: Okay. Did you just put down, pull a little tape 438 00:19:54,430 --> 00:19:55,090 Speaker 1: off the back? 439 00:19:55,130 --> 00:19:58,369 Speaker 2: No. Vinyl has come a long way, baby. It's called 440 00:19:58,710 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: luxury vinyl planks. 441 00:20:00,430 --> 00:20:01,260 Speaker 1: So that ruled out. 442 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,300 Speaker 2: No, they're strips. They look like hardwood. Oh, I got 443 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,740 Speaker 2: to get him into floor and decor. And yes. And 444 00:20:06,980 --> 00:20:09,100 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm a senior designer at floor and 445 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:09,900 Speaker 2: decor as well. 446 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,300 Speaker 1: Okay. 447 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,980 Speaker 2: In bucket. Okay. It's the design studio. I had to 448 00:20:13,020 --> 00:20:13,700 Speaker 2: give you some love. 449 00:20:13,869 --> 00:20:14,070 Speaker 4: Okay. 450 00:20:14,090 --> 00:20:16,130 Speaker 2: So we're real cute. So you come in, you won't 451 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:16,790 Speaker 2: get dusty. 452 00:20:17,010 --> 00:20:17,230 Speaker 3: Okay. 453 00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:19,310 Speaker 2: You have some, something to drink. Okay. And you look 454 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:21,270 Speaker 2: at the beautiful tile. Okay. 455 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:23,950 Speaker 1: Because that vinyl, you ain't sold me on the vinyl. 456 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:24,689 Speaker 2: I know. 457 00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:25,670 Speaker 1: That's okay. That's okay. 458 00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:28,100 Speaker 2: But from a resale perspective, hardwood is still number one. 459 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: Yes. 460 00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: Kitchen and bath. 461 00:20:29,660 --> 00:20:29,860 Speaker 3: Okay. 462 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: And landscape. 463 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Let's go to the kitchen. What do I 464 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: have to do in the kitchen to make that pop? 465 00:20:36,020 --> 00:20:40,810 Speaker 2: Beautiful, solid surface countertop. Be it Cambria, which is a brand, 466 00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:45,449 Speaker 2: but any solid surface, really light veins, but even some dark... 467 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: like concretes are really sexy right now for countertops. 468 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: Concrete? 469 00:20:49,220 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: Concrete. 470 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: So granite is out. 471 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:53,020 Speaker 2: Granite is easing out. 472 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,659 Speaker 1: But concrete, it absorbs water. 473 00:20:55,770 --> 00:20:58,850 Speaker 2: I know, but it's very, back to what's happening. It's a, no, 474 00:20:58,869 --> 00:21:01,810 Speaker 2: you put a sealant over it. And it's great for baking. 475 00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:04,210 Speaker 2: So multi-countertop options. 476 00:21:04,570 --> 00:21:06,830 Speaker 1: But south- Does the sealant sustain the heat? 477 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:11,530 Speaker 2: It does, yeah. Concrete countertops are kind of the rave. However, 478 00:21:11,550 --> 00:21:15,340 Speaker 2: that's for a more modern- A more loft. I'm thinking 479 00:21:15,380 --> 00:21:18,580 Speaker 2: of all these loft apartments that Atlanta has somehow gotten. 480 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: But from a traditional standpoint, I am a quartz girl. 481 00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:26,540 Speaker 2: I love a solid surface, a quartz or a quartz 482 00:21:26,580 --> 00:21:30,870 Speaker 2: night stone. Granite is still number one because it's kind 483 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:34,129 Speaker 2: of affordable, but it's porous. So you really should seal 484 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:36,929 Speaker 2: it at least once a year so that you won't 485 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:39,090 Speaker 2: get those stains in it. But everybody, you know, granite 486 00:21:39,109 --> 00:21:41,109 Speaker 2: is a go-to. You can't go wrong with the granite. 487 00:21:41,570 --> 00:21:46,700 Speaker 2: But as he dances. But my favorite is a quartz. 488 00:21:46,859 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: So really, you've shot your boy down with the vinyl tile, 489 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,460 Speaker 1: the vinyl floor, and now the granite countertop. 490 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:53,300 Speaker 2: I know. 491 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,619 Speaker 1: You shot your boy down. But that's all right. The 492 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: relationship is still strong. 493 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:57,260 Speaker 2: Thank you. 494 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,780 Speaker 1: Now let's go to the restroom, the bathroom. Yeah. What 495 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: do I have to do to make that pop? 496 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: Tile, tile, tile. My favorite is marble. But marble requires 497 00:22:05,980 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of maintenance, a little bit of ceiling, 498 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,050 Speaker 2: but large format tiles, which can be used for countertops. 499 00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: And for a floor. You ever go into like Saks 500 00:22:15,460 --> 00:22:18,459 Speaker 2: or Bloomingdale's and use those beautiful floors? That's porcelain tile. 501 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:22,419 Speaker 2: So porcelain tile throughout the entire home as well as 502 00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:26,270 Speaker 2: every wall in the bathroom. Tile it up a whole lot. Gorgeous. 503 00:22:26,290 --> 00:22:28,670 Speaker 1: So no whirlpool baths? 504 00:22:28,770 --> 00:22:31,770 Speaker 2: No, we're more into like the suckers, the sunken. 505 00:22:31,790 --> 00:22:33,970 Speaker 1: But you want that curved, what type of bath? 506 00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:34,650 Speaker 2: Curbless. 507 00:22:34,790 --> 00:22:38,869 Speaker 1: Curbless bathroom. Walk in there, just start showering. 508 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:41,470 Speaker 2: Two shower heads, a bench. 509 00:22:41,609 --> 00:22:43,710 Speaker 1: Your wife over there, she getting wet because you showered. 510 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:48,770 Speaker 2: No way. And that's where design comes in. Because my 511 00:22:48,810 --> 00:22:50,990 Speaker 2: job would be to make sure the water flow is 512 00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:53,910 Speaker 2: appropriate so no one gets wet. 513 00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:55,570 Speaker 1: Not the homeboy interior designer. 514 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:55,949 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. 515 00:22:56,030 --> 00:22:56,510 Speaker 1: No, that's me. 516 00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:57,130 Speaker 2: No, that's you. 517 00:22:57,410 --> 00:22:58,330 Speaker 1: My wife complaining. 518 00:22:58,690 --> 00:22:59,090 Speaker 3: I'm wet. 519 00:22:59,470 --> 00:23:00,490 Speaker 1: Will you stop showering? 520 00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:04,990 Speaker 2: Look, in bathrooms now, you got TVs. You have speakers 521 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:05,890 Speaker 2: and the light fixtures. 522 00:23:06,150 --> 00:23:07,869 Speaker 1: Oh, we got a call here. Is that Barbara in 523 00:23:07,890 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: New York? Oh, hold on. Okay, because we can keep talking. 524 00:23:10,619 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Is that going on? Okay, cool. Barbara from New York? 525 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:16,180 Speaker 3: Barbara? 526 00:23:17,369 --> 00:23:17,590 Speaker 2: Yes. 527 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:19,330 Speaker 1: How you doing? You have a question here? This is 528 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:23,190 Speaker 1: Rashawn McDonald speaking along with Ms. Vaughn. How you doing? Yeah. 529 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:25,550 Speaker 4: I don't have a question, but I have a comment 530 00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:25,950 Speaker 4: to make. 531 00:23:26,150 --> 00:23:26,890 Speaker 1: Okay. 532 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:28,649 Speaker 3: I know Melody Vaughn. 533 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,980 Speaker 4: She was a colleague of mine in New York. 534 00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 535 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: And I can tell you that she is one of 536 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,370 Speaker 4: the best designers on the East Coast. 537 00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:41,730 Speaker 3: She. 538 00:23:45,260 --> 00:23:48,649 Speaker 4: She keeps it kind of together and quiet and on 539 00:23:48,670 --> 00:23:53,250 Speaker 4: the down low, but her talent and her renown throughout 540 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: New York and Brooklyn was huge. And we were very, 541 00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 4: very sorry to see her go back to Atlanta. Yeah. 542 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,459 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to just tell you this, Barbara. She 543 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: ran through her story so fast, I didn't even know 544 00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:08,870 Speaker 1: she came from New York. She didn't say nothing about 545 00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:11,790 Speaker 1: New York. All I knew was Femmue and Atlanta. New 546 00:24:11,850 --> 00:24:12,850 Speaker 1: York never popped up. 547 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: We talked about it a little bit. 548 00:24:14,030 --> 00:24:16,170 Speaker 1: This is her story. We talked off air. We didn't 549 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:19,010 Speaker 1: say nothing. See, now I know with guests like her, Barbara, 550 00:24:19,390 --> 00:24:22,090 Speaker 1: we got to keep all our conversations on air. She 551 00:24:22,130 --> 00:24:25,510 Speaker 1: went yada, yada, yada, yada. Dad was a landscaper, and 552 00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:27,530 Speaker 1: then I started doing pools. 553 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,379 Speaker 2: Thank you, Barbara. 554 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: So, Barbara, I needed this call to really amplify. Somebody 555 00:24:35,420 --> 00:24:37,419 Speaker 1: let us know that I have a superstar on the 556 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:37,980 Speaker 1: call here. 557 00:24:38,619 --> 00:24:40,460 Speaker 4: You absolutely have a superstar. 558 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:41,350 Speaker 1: Thank you. 559 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,260 Speaker 4: She was one of the designers that kicked it off. 560 00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Barbara. 561 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,100 Speaker 1: Barbara, okay. Barbara, she's embarrassing her. She can't turn red, 562 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,220 Speaker 1: but she trying. She trying. So, Barbara, thank you for 563 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,740 Speaker 1: all this extra information. You need to call early in 564 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: the show because you can't call me when the show 565 00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: about to end, okay? I got to train the people 566 00:25:10,980 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: who call for you. You know, she's been listening to 567 00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:15,590 Speaker 1: the show. She knows she's ready to call like at 6.05. 568 00:25:15,580 --> 00:25:16,300 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 569 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: She's trying. Thank you, Barbara from New York. Appreciate you. 570 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:19,860 Speaker 2: Pleasure. 571 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:24,350 Speaker 1: She's fantastic. But you know, the whole purpose of Money 572 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:28,510 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass is that you are an individual to 573 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:30,729 Speaker 1: bring on the show, our new superstar. And I try 574 00:25:30,750 --> 00:25:34,610 Speaker 1: to create a platform that lets your story, because it resonates. 575 00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of Barbaras who... or been mentored, 576 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: who work with individuals like you, and you don't know 577 00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:43,180 Speaker 1: your value until you hear from them. 578 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,060 Speaker 2: And then you get buried. 579 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,030 Speaker 1: Don't say that. Cut that out. 580 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: No. 581 00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: That's what all commercials are. They're just bragging about cars, 582 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: bragging about the best chicken, bragging about the hamburgers, all 583 00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. So I always tell people, you got to 584 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: learn how to brag. The original bragger was Muhammad Ali. 585 00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:00,940 Speaker 2: I say that, right? 586 00:26:01,020 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: He was the original bragger. Then primetime is the new 587 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,380 Speaker 1: original bragger. 588 00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: And he's coming on your show next, right? 589 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,540 Speaker 1: That's my boy. And so, you know, I got a 590 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,590 Speaker 1: great book out right now that came out, I believe, 591 00:26:11,609 --> 00:26:14,090 Speaker 1: March 12th. But the thing I always tell you and 592 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,750 Speaker 1: individuals like you is that the blessings that you bring 593 00:26:16,770 --> 00:26:20,370 Speaker 1: to the table have to be shared in order for 594 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:22,690 Speaker 1: you to appreciate it. Because if you don't appreciate it, 595 00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:25,190 Speaker 1: then you don't understand your value. And I always tell 596 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:27,690 Speaker 1: people your value or your cost, because you know you 597 00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:30,290 Speaker 1: have a certain fee you charge. And you know, the 598 00:26:30,330 --> 00:26:33,010 Speaker 1: only reason you get there, you have a resume. But 599 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:38,380 Speaker 1: when it comes to personal value, We brush that resume 600 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,899 Speaker 1: there aside. 601 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:39,220 Speaker 2: Right. 602 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: And that happens a lot in the black community. White 603 00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:43,429 Speaker 1: people don't do that. They tell everybody they're the best. 604 00:26:43,450 --> 00:26:44,390 Speaker 2: Everybody, exactly. 605 00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:46,530 Speaker 1: Black people, that's bragging. 606 00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:48,830 Speaker 2: I know. Well, you know, to kind of piggyback that, 607 00:26:48,869 --> 00:26:51,210 Speaker 2: and I know we got to jump off, I joined 608 00:26:51,369 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: the National Association for Black Women in Construction. 609 00:26:54,690 --> 00:26:54,930 Speaker 1: Okay. 610 00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:59,020 Speaker 2: And that has been life-changing for me. These women are 611 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,540 Speaker 2: building not just homes, but they're building institutions and We 612 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: have Black Women in Construction, a national association. 613 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,340 Speaker 1: I'm so tired of you. 614 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:08,740 Speaker 2: I know. 615 00:27:08,770 --> 00:27:10,770 Speaker 1: You can't come on my show with these last minute nuggets. 616 00:27:10,869 --> 00:27:12,050 Speaker 2: It's so good, right? 617 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:13,570 Speaker 1: So that means you got, I know what you're doing, 618 00:27:13,650 --> 00:27:15,490 Speaker 1: coming back. So you going to come back on my show? 619 00:27:16,090 --> 00:27:18,889 Speaker 2: I think, yes, most definitely. 620 00:27:18,910 --> 00:27:21,460 Speaker 1: We doing this. She's a fantastic guest. She's one of 621 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:24,540 Speaker 1: the best, according to Barbara. In New York, Harlem, she 622 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: has two kids. They're sons. They're out of college. One 623 00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: was Howard. One was Syracuse. Dad was Lansing. She's doing 624 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,100 Speaker 1: her thing. Used to work for Home Depot, but we 625 00:27:32,140 --> 00:27:35,340 Speaker 1: won't tell that story publicly. Thank you for coming on 626 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,859 Speaker 1: the show, Melody. 627 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. Such a blessing. And thank you for all 628 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: that you do. And congratulations to this 50th. And I 629 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:44,909 Speaker 2: love it. I think WCLK is definitely a part of 630 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:45,389 Speaker 2: my soul. 631 00:27:45,570 --> 00:27:47,210 Speaker 1: Yes. Part of my soul. They let me come on 632 00:27:47,230 --> 00:27:49,470 Speaker 1: there every Tuesday to talk to people like you, which 633 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:50,010 Speaker 1: is a blessing. 634 00:27:50,130 --> 00:27:50,450 Speaker 3: Okay. 635 00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:51,090 Speaker 1: We talk soon. 636 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:54,110 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money 637 00:27:54,150 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: Making Conversations Masterclass. Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Ruchon McDonald 638 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,700 Speaker 3: is produced by 3815 Media Inc. More information about 3815 639 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:11,510 Speaker 3: Media Inc. is available at 3815media. com. And always remember to 640 00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:12,669 Speaker 3: lead with your gifts.