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Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life

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Speaker 1: and not what somebody told you to do. And that's

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Speaker 1: when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host with Sean McDonald. Our theme is there's

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Speaker 1: no perfect time to start following your dreams. I recognize

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Speaker 1: that we all have different definitions of success. For you

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Speaker 1: and maybe the size of your fature, it's time to

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Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories to start living your own.

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Speaker 1: Keep winning. You heard it, Stop reading other people's success

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Speaker 1: stories and start living your own. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: That means that a lot of people out there are

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Speaker 1: They're going out there on faith without a plan or budget.

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Speaker 1: I've done that. Believe me. I'm not pointing a finger

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Speaker 1: I talk to you about this show, and I talk

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Speaker 1: about the advantages. Listen to a guy who's made mistakes.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the guy who some people have said he's successful.

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Speaker 1: I don't judge by success. By saying I'm successful, I

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Speaker 1: I can come across as an honest person who's only

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Speaker 1: listen to my advice. Either way, it's been written etcheton Stone.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not asking you to follow me

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Speaker 1: on social media. I'm just asking you to hear what

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Speaker 1: what I got to say. When I bring guests on

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Speaker 1: that I feel have value, can create a goal in

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Speaker 1: or relatable. My guest is an accomplished interior designer. This

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Speaker 1: first time I have an interior designer on my show,

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Speaker 1: and I'm one of these people, and I share you

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Speaker 1: some of my interior designer story. I think I'm pretty good,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I have a weird way of doing it.

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Speaker 1: Is if with expertise is spanning into kitchens, bathrooms, renovations, art, art, consentation,

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Speaker 1: and writing, Please welcome the money making conversation. Master class

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Speaker 1: the One and Only Melody Vonne. How you doing, Melodie.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what a great intro. I appreciate that. I am wonderful.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, as an interior designer, I can

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Speaker 2: often tell persons decor by their wardrobe. And you're quite spiffy, sir, Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm one of these people. When I cook in the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: guy who will undergo my car is clean. Know they're

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Speaker 1: I when I when my whole thing that I'm a

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Speaker 1: that space. Talk about how you go about doing it?

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Speaker 2: Wow, Well, I tell you to me. Homes are living beings.

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Speaker 2: Homes have heartbeats, they have rhythm. And when I go

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Speaker 2: look for Functual is an Asian form of incorporating design.

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Speaker 2: It's called a bogwad. Every corner has a purpose, your

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Speaker 2: prosperity corner, your family corner, et cetera, and so forth.

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Speaker 2: But I incorporate a little bit of all of those

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Speaker 2: to be functioned? What color? Exuberant? Certain energies like blue

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Speaker 2: That's not relax that's not a relaxing that's the energy

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Speaker 2: Really, that's what design is all about, color theory, space planning,

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Speaker 1: So how did the academic wise? What did you do

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Speaker 2: So I attempted my school journey HBCU, FAM shout out.

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Speaker 1: Definitely because I'm gonna tell you it helps me because

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Speaker 1: You said a lot there. That was about twenty years

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Speaker 1: And so that was my starting point seeing things. That's

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Melanievond Melody Bond in regards to interior design, renovation,

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Speaker 1: I was once living in one of my houses with

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Speaker 2: sheds at seven years, your home to core and the

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Speaker 2: your needs may be different, whereas before you might have

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Speaker 2: I just want to feel relaxed, relaxed.

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Speaker 1: But they got to be in the kitchen to be

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Speaker 2: Yes, well you know what COVID did that to a

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Speaker 1: That's where you from. I see a lot of advertising

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Speaker 1: Is that all those of us as popular as they

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Speaker 2: we can revamp your bathroom. Yeah that's possible, but trust

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Speaker 2: Beautiful solid surface countertop be it Cambria, which is a brand,

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Speaker 2: dark like concretes are really sexy. Right now for countertops

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Speaker 2: But everybody you know, granted go to You can't go

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Speaker 1: I know that's the relationship is still strong. They go

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Speaker 1: Walking down? You just shower, shower heads, a bench, your

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Speaker 2: You shower, No way, and that's where design comes from,

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Speaker 1: That's your oh white complaining. I'm with when you stop.

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Speaker 2: Look in bathrooms. Now you've got TVs. You have speakers

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Speaker 2: in the light fixtures.

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Speaker 1: Oh we got a call here? Is that Barbara in

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Speaker 1: New York?

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Speaker 2: Is that hello?

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Speaker 1: Okay? We can keep talking?

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Speaker 4: Is it? Oh? No?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Cool?

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Speaker 1: Barbara from New York? Barbara?

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Speaker 3: Yes, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You have a question? Here is Rishon McDonald speaking alone

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Speaker 1: with Ms Vaughan. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a question, but I have a

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Speaker 3: comment to me.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I know Melody Vaughan. She was a colleague of mine

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Speaker 3: in New York, Okay, and I can tell you that

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Speaker 3: she is one of the best designers that on the

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Speaker 2: She is very.

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Speaker 3: She keeps it kind of together and quiet and on

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Speaker 3: the down low. But her talent and her renown throughout

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Speaker 3: New York and Brooklyn was huge, and we were very,

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Speaker 3: very sorry to see her go back to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna just tell you this, Barbara. She told

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Speaker 1: her she ran through her story so fast. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know she came from New York. She didn't say

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Speaker 1: nothing about New York. All I knew was fam you

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. New York never popped up.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it.

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Speaker 1: This is the story we talked off air. We said nothing.

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Speaker 1: See now, I know with guests like her, Barbara, we

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Speaker 1: got to keep all our conversations on air. She went YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: Dad was a landscaper and then I started doing pools, Barbara, Barbara,

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Speaker 1: I needed this call to really amplified somebody. Let us

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Speaker 1: know that I have a superstar on the call.

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Speaker 3: Here have a superstar. Thank you, thank you for one

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Speaker 3: of the founding members of the Bad Guild, the Black

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Speaker 3: Artists and Designers, which is a worldwide organization, and she

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Speaker 3: was one of the designers that kicked it off.

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Speaker 1: Barbara. Okay, Barbara, she's embarrassing her. You know she can't

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Speaker 1: turn red, but she's trying. She trying. So Barbara, thank

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Speaker 1: you for all this extra information. But you need to

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Speaker 1: call early in the show because you can't call them

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Speaker 1: when you show about the okay o train. I got

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Speaker 1: to train the people call for you. You know, she

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Speaker 1: she's ready to call. So fine, Thank you, Barber from

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Speaker 1: New York. Appreciate you. She's fantastic. But you know those

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Speaker 1: those the whole purpose of money making conversations, master classes

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Speaker 1: that you are an individual to bring on the show

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Speaker 1: a new superstars, and I try to create a platform

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Speaker 1: to let your story because it resonates because it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of Barberas who are been mentored, who work with

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Speaker 1: individuals like you. And you don't know your value till

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Speaker 1: you hear from That's what that's what. That's what all

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Speaker 1: commercials are. They're just bragging about cars, bragging about the

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Speaker 1: best chicken, bragging about the Hamburgers all that stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I always tell people, you got to learn how to brag.

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Speaker 1: The original bragger with Muhammad al Lee say that he

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Speaker 1: was the regular brand. The prime time is the new original.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I got a great book out

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Speaker 1: right now came I believe in March twelve. But the

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Speaker 1: thing I always tell you and individuals like you, is

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Speaker 1: that the blessings that you bring to the table have

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Speaker 1: to be shared in or to be for you to

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Because you don't appreciate it, then you don't

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Speaker 1: understand your value. And I always tell people your value

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Speaker 1: or your cost, because you know you have a ferd

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Speaker 1: and fee you charge and you know you get there.

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Speaker 1: You have a resume. Yeah, but tend when it comes

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Speaker 1: to personal value, we bush that resume their aside. And

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Speaker 1: that happens a lot in the black community. White people

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Speaker 1: don't do that.

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Speaker 2: They tell everybody, everybody exactly people that's bragging. I know,

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Speaker 2: you know, to kind of piggyback that, and I know

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Speaker 2: we gotta jump off. I joined the National Association for

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Speaker 2: Black Women in Construction, okay, and that has been life

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Speaker 2: changing for me. These women are building not just homes,

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Speaker 2: but they're building institutions. We have black women in construction

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Speaker 2: and National Association.

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Speaker 1: Good right, So it means you got I know what

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Speaker 1: you're doing coming back, So you're gonna come back on

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Speaker 1: my show. I think, yes, we're doing this. She's a

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Speaker 1: fantastic guess. She's one of the bands. According to Barbara

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Speaker 1: in Harlem. She has two kids, their sons them Women's Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: She's doing the thing. Used to work for a depot.

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Speaker 1: But when we tell that story publicly, thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on with Joe.

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Speaker 2: Thank you such a blessing, and thank you for all

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Speaker 2: that you do, and congratulations to this fiftieth and I

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Speaker 2: love it. I think w C Okay is definitely a

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Speaker 2: part of my soul.

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Speaker 1: Yes, my soul. They let me come on the airby

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Speaker 1: Tuesday to talk to people like you, which is a lesson.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we talked to Thank you for joining us for

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