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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how is everybody here? On a Tuesday One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you got plenty to get

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Speaker 2: to on the NFL schedule side of things, along with

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Speaker 2: some bills, signing news and some stuff around the league.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into a little bit of AFC East talk

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Speaker 2: in the second hour of the show as well, But

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Speaker 2: we did want to make sure that we made note

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Speaker 2: a brief moment here at the top of the show

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Speaker 2: to remember the ten Buffalo citizens who lost their lives

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Speaker 2: on this date, exactly two years ago in the tops

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Speaker 2: mass shooting in East Buffalo. While we have all pledged

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Speaker 2: to stand up against racial hatred in any form when

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Speaker 2: it hits us in our hometown, we make sure no

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Speaker 2: one forgets the quality people our community lost in that

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Speaker 2: senseless act, which, as we know, was spurred by ignorance

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Speaker 2: and hate. No place for it in our community, our society,

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Speaker 2: our country. So our thoughts and prayers are with the

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Speaker 2: families of our ten victims. We know today must be

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Speaker 2: a very uniquely difficult day for them.

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Speaker 1: I think it's only appropriate for us to remember it.

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Speaker 1: This organization has continued to do that, and I think

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Speaker 1: and I would encourage all of us at home, whether

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Speaker 1: to make it a point to commemorate in some way,

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Speaker 1: pay it for somehow, some way, do something for somebody

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Speaker 1: on a day like today, and remember people who, through

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Speaker 1: no fault of their own, aren't able to do that anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thankful for us to get this opportunity to

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Speaker 1: say this and to be a part of the remembrance

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Speaker 1: of these people. And I there was a five k

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Speaker 1: and a half marathon race over the weekend that was

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Speaker 1: commemorated that gets out scholarships and does some good work

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Speaker 1: for it. Sean McDermott went over and started the race.

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Speaker 1: I know Bruce, my buddy Bruce Smith, is involved with it.

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Speaker 1: Bruce just had his knee replaced so he couldn't make

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was there. I to this day wear this.

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Speaker 1: I had this blue braceline. Some people know I wear

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Speaker 1: of some friends of mine and I are involved in

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Speaker 1: the commemoration of five point fourteen shooting, and I just

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Speaker 2: Governor Hokel did announce that the design plans for the

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Speaker 2: memorial that will be erected in due time. The final

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Speaker 2: design features ten interconnected pillars, each inscribed with the names

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Speaker 2: of the victims and the survivors that were also those

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Speaker 2: wounded that did survive in the shooting, and they vary

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Speaker 2: in arc and height, faced with stone. According to the

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Speaker 2: press release. It also includes a multifunctional support building for education,

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Speaker 2: exhibitions and community events, as well as an elevated memorial

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Speaker 2: walk on the building's roof. So it was nice to

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Speaker 2: see that in an effort to remember the victims, this

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Speaker 2: No date specifically on when that project will be going

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Speaker 2: not be forgotten in any way, shape or form. We

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Speaker 2: transition now as best we can to the NFL goings

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Speaker 2: on as they continue Steve to leave breadcrumbs. They're really

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Speaker 2: four regular season schedule. So they've released other game announcements

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Speaker 2: Amazon Prime Video announced their Thursday night football schedule will

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Speaker 2: open in week two with your Buffalo Bills, who will

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Speaker 2: to fifteen kickoff on Thursday, September twelfth. I know, just

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Speaker 2: based on the feedback I got on social media alone,

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Speaker 2: Steve Bill's fans are very happy that an early game

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't get I don't want to get

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Speaker 2: I told you, I told you so.

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Speaker 1: I told you said. I believe Bill's early season primetime

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Speaker 2: It does open that door, because we know that the

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Speaker 2: game for the entire league for the division was Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: and it was for all the marbles. We know. Obviously

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Speaker 2: the Bills won that game, you know, and that is

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Speaker 2: the best news. That they're playing at night early in

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Speaker 2: the twenty two season when it was one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty degrees on the field. Many Bills fans refer to

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Speaker 2: this as the Who's Your Daddy game? Since Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: in that Week eighteen game, and they still won. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: And that was Trent Sherfield's claim to fame in a

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Speaker 2: Bill's uniform, catching a deflected pass for a touchdown, which

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Speaker 2: was an important touchdown along with Deontay Hardy's both of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna and it's once again it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: night makes some sense, no question. Yeah. I said that

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Speaker 1: of that on Thursday night football. That's awesome, man.

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Speaker 1: And it's I don't know, I like it too because

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Speaker 1: it gives you that Week one. Now we don't know

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Speaker 2: Because since twenty twelve, every team that has played away

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Speaker 1: Plus they're not going to travel because that gives them

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Speaker 2: You know, you think it's going to be a non

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be a marquee game.

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Speaker 2: Because the home opener is usually sold out anyway, yes,

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Speaker 1: Get one of these teams that like they're going to

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll give you a little bit more on what

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Speaker 2: kickoff game is Ravens versus Chiefs in Kansas City Friday night.

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Speaker 2: We already knew was the Brazil game Packers versus Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Now we also know that Fox will have the coveted

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Speaker 2: the Monday night game is Jets at San Francisco on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the Bills are not playing San Francisco

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Speaker 2: two that will be Bengals at Chiefs. So back to

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Speaker 1: Conference, yes, Baltimore Cincinnati that so the yeah, the West

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Speaker 1: That's gonna I it's a lot in that. But also,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is also stuff. Stuff's getting leaked out too,

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Speaker 1: and he's had something. Joe Buck was on Good Morning America.

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Speaker 2: So on Good Morning America this morning was ESPN played

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Speaker 4: We know that we also have the Cowboys twice, and

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Speaker 4: we've got the Chiefs twice, so we've got the Bills twice.

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Speaker 4: it's exciting. I can't wait. We all can't wait for

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Speaker 4: But it's shaping up to be another great year on

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Speaker 4: Monday Night football for sure.

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Speaker 2: So that means two of Buffalo's games will be on

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Speaker 2: Monday Night. He also said Chiefs two times on Monday Night,

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Speaker 2: and he said the Niners one more time in addition

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Speaker 2: Niners Bills Monday Night. Could be Chiefs Bills Monday Night,

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Speaker 2: because I think I think it's the protected game. CBS

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Speaker 2: protected that game last. That'll be a four to twenty

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's got a shot. Yeah, and so does well,

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Speaker 1: so does so does Bills Jets later in the year.

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Speaker 1: You know who's gonna be. It's gonna be Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Baltimore. Yeah, that's gotta be who it is.

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Speaker 2: Francisco is appearing once more on Monday Night Football in

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Speaker 2: addition to Week one against the Jets. You know the

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Speaker 2: Bills are appearing twice. It's not out of the it's

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Speaker 2: not ridiculous to think that they're paired up in one

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Speaker 2: I tend to lean towards Steve on this. Because CBS

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Speaker 2: protected their Bills Chiefs game last year in the four

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Speaker 1: That's right. And I'll say this too. Think about it.

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Speaker 1: The only guy. There's two guys out there that are

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Speaker 1: Right, So, but you go all the way, you go

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Speaker 1: They've got they got to they they got too much athleticism,

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Speaker 2: This is courtesy of Warren Sharp and Sharp Analytics. He

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Speaker 1: Today we loop loop steph off and yeah, that's you're

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Speaker 2: Number one in the league right now is San Francisco

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Speaker 1: They got to pay Wattle, and they have to.

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Speaker 2: the rundown of the top five the bottom five bills,

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Speaker 1: They're young.

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Speaker 1: get guy and you know that's why you've always used

436
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Speaker 1: the two words cheap labor, you get young rookies who

437
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Speaker 1: want to make a name for themselves out there, and

438
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Speaker 1: they have no in this economy of the NFL, they

439
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: have no problem out playing a fifth round draft pick

440
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: contract if they get on the field, they've already done that.

441
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Speaker 1: So it's all comes down to the value and the

442
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: production you get out of the money you spend, and

443
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Speaker 1: that's where you sit. So yeah, and I get it.

444
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: It's telling. It's informative to find out what position groups

445
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: on other teams are making a lot of money and

446
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: transposet that onto their quarterback money and how good they're

447
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: getting out of it. But you get a team like

448
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 1: like Buffalo and the quarterback hard to imagine Josh not

449
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: overperforming his contract. The guy, the guy earns it. Nobody

450
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: even squawks at the money he's making, unlike the New

451
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Speaker 1: York Giants where they're paying Daniel Jones a boatload of

452
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Speaker 1: money and he is he's Daniel Jones. Yes, So the

453
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Speaker 1: value you get out of these condos, I don't It's

454
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Speaker 1: not that I don't care. It's informative. But like I said,

455
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Speaker 1: if the guys are great players at their position and

456
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Speaker 1: they're getting the going rate, you kind of got to shrug

457
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: your shoulders say they're earning it. Let's go. It's those

458
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: draft classes and the dudes who are really hitting a

459
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: home run who aren't earning their money. Like last year.

460
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Speaker 1: You can make a case for Vaughn last year. You

461
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: know that's and we all knew it, well know it.

462
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: And now it's not so much this year because the

463
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Speaker 1: guy redid his contract last year.

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Speaker 2: Of Bill's News, there is a report that rules analy

465
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Speaker 2: as John Perry is going to be leaving ESPN as

466
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Speaker 2: their rules analyst to take an officiating liaison position here

467
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Speaker 2: with the Bills. So Perry is a former head NFL referee.

468
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean for like two decades he was a head referee.

469
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Speaker 2: So interesting, you know, if this proves to be accurate

470
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: and the team confirms the hiring, very interesting to see

471
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Speaker 2: a former head official in the league now working for

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Speaker 2: a club as an officiating liaison. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what that job entails. I haven't

474
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Speaker 1: read the description of the job, but man, oh man,

475
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Speaker 1: you talk about a game day, a guy who's on it,

476
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Speaker 1: who could be up there watching ahead challenge this, challenge,

477
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: that challenge, that challenge that plus during the week, you know,

478
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: every club, it's customary and it's a league practice around

479
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: the league. Every team the league puts in says hey,

480
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Speaker 1: we need to fix this on our game day operation,

481
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: we need to fix this this this was a bad call,

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Speaker 1: or we think this was a bad call. We thought

483
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: this was a bad call. I had an exchange with

484
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Speaker 1: the official that was misleading or whatever. Could you you know,

485
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and he would really help with that

486
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: because he was one of the guys that did it

487
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Speaker 1: from the officiating side. So I see more the most

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Speaker 1: benefit on game day operation, right game management.

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Speaker 2: You would think yes, because he knows what he's looking

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Speaker 2: at from a referee perspective.

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Speaker 1: And he knows how to communicate it and exactly what.

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Speaker 2: He might say. Well, this is what they see, and

493
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: that's why they didn't call it, right, because he's been

494
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: trained that way to see the game the way the

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Speaker 2: official sees it, not the way a coach or an

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Speaker 2: irate player might see it.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And yeah, he can be dispassionate, say no, no,

498
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: don't not in this situation. Forget it, don't do it.

499
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: That's that's a plus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see if and when that's confirmed by

501
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: the club. Topic of discussion for you today is schedule related.

502
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: Would you rather see the Bills play on Christmas Day

503
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: or Thanksgiving Day for a game this fall? We know

504
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: they've played on Thanksgiving before, They've never played on Christmas Day,

505
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 2: they have played on Christmas Eve, So let us know

506
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: would you rather like? Would you rather see the Bills

507
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: playing on Christmas Day or Thanksgiving Day? Maybe it's neither.

508
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: Maybe you want your holidays for your family. But I

509
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: know there are a lot of fans who love seeing

510
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: the Bills play a national game on a holiday when

511
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: they know they have their day off. So you let

512
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: us know which you would prefer. Eight oh three, five

513
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Speaker 2: point fifty one eighty eight, five point fifty two, five

514
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: fifty those are the numbers to get on board. We've

515
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Speaker 2: got open lines for you. We will take a break here,

516
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: but get to your phone calls when we return here

517
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health.

518
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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here. I want Bill's Live.

519
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: Fris Brown see if task me with you topic a

520
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: discussion for you today? Would you rather see the Bills

521
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: play on Thanksgiving this season or Christmas Day? We know

522
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: there's gonna be two games on Christmas this year, and

523
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: it's right smack dab in the middle of the week.

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00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: We have, Man, how far have we come? Because I'm

525
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: starting to read the notification we'll get. We'll show the

526
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: tweetsheet with you later on in the show, but we're

527
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: getting all these responses about the question like which would

528
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: it be? Would you rather have them on Christmas Day

529
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: or Thanksgiving Day? And we have come light years, Brownie,

530
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: light years because people are like going, you know what,

531
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: just give me a break I don't want them on anylay.

532
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: It used to be, come on, can we get a

533
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: night game at least once in the season that nobody

534
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: likes us? Like, we couldn't get it. We couldn't get

535
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: a Monday night game to save our.

536
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: Live paid for it.

537
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: And now it's like nine times on prime time.

538
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: Oh what a one eighty.

539
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I like this better.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the phones and leading this off today,

541
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Speaker 2: Andy down New Jersey, what do you got for his? Sandy?

542
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 5: Hi doing guys good. I was listening to Eric Woods

543
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 5: podcast just the other day and he had Micah Hyde

544
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: on as one of his guests, right, and he was

545
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 5: asking Michael how he's you know, how he's been feeling

546
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 5: and everything, and he the conversation kind of went in

547
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 5: his tone seemed to, you know, lead me to believe,

548
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Speaker 5: and he did say it that you know he's he's

549
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Speaker 5: not you know, he's he's not totally decided on retiring.

550
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Speaker 5: And I just want to get what you know, what

551
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 5: you what your take might be on the possibility of

552
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Speaker 5: him maybe coming back for one, you know, for one

553
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 5: more year and not not retiring yet.

554
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously he's wrestling with it. I don't

555
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 2: think he is decided one way or the other. I

556
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: think there are factors to consider here. He's a player

557
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: that has had next surgery successfully. He came back from

558
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: next surgery last season, but nonetheless has had next surgery.

559
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: That is not something that you just dismiss arbitrarily. He's

560
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: got a young family, and you know, I know he

561
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: likes living out in San Diego. Uh loves it out there.

562
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: His kids are still not school age, I believe, so

563
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be a factor in any of the decision making,

564
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: because you know, you uproot your family, come across the country,

565
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: play in Buffalo one more year. Yeah. I think he's

566
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: got some thinking to do still, and people are like, well,

567
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: how long does this take? And maybe you can speak

568
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: to that better than I Yeah, it when you feel

569
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Speaker 2: like you're near the end.

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00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's probably had some offers from some teams,

571
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: maybe even the Bills. I don't know, but let's face it,

572
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: from from the Bills perspective, that they got to go.

573
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not under contract. They had to replace

574
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: him and.

575
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Get some They can't wait for him.

576
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't wait for him, and he may not

577
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: be ready, which is fine. He doesn't have to. You know,

578
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: it's his it's his decision. So but I would imagine

579
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: he also is sitting there and I don't know this

580
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: because I haven't talked to Micah, but he is gonna

581
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: have his softball game this weekend. He's gonna sit there,

582
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: and I you know that there are teams who picked

583
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: up the phone and call that guy, say hey, what

584
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: about it? How you feel and what's the deal If

585
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: you want to come back, call us or if you

586
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: want to So he's got there's gonna be some interest

587
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: in having Micah Hyde show up for one of these

588
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: teams and play. And now it's it's totally I would

589
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: I was, It's totally up to Micah. If you take

590
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: that for granted, which I do. It's up to Micah

591
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: whether he wants to play or not. Here's the theory.

592
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: And the fact that he hasn't said yes tells you

593
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: all you need to know. He's struggling with it.

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Speaker 2: Here's the theory. Tell me, tell me what you think

595
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: of this. Micah Hyde, probably in his return from next

596
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: surgery and getting through a seventeen game season, probably thought

597
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: about the toll it took on his body at his

598
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: age thirty three. What do you think of him saying,

599
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm not retiring, but I'm not playing seventeen.

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00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: Games, right.

601
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: I could totally see him hanging out, skipping training camp,

602
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: staying in shape. And if there's a team, whether it's

603
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: the Bills or anybody else, rash of injuries at the

604
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: safety position, they need to sign somebody. Sure, and he

605
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: comes on board for the last eight games of the

606
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: season on a playoff contender. Yeah, I think that's more

607
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: likely than anything else if he plays again. To me,

608
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: that's the scenario. I could see him returning to play it.

609
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: That makes some sense to me. If he just said, listen,

610
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna wait, and I might sign during the

611
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: season when he needs some help. That way, here's two

612
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: problems with it. One, he's got to work out and

613
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: stay in shape for maybe and for the other reason

614
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: maybe no reason. That situation that you're talking about may

615
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: not come up, or it may be it may come

616
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: up with a team, a team like who you pick

617
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: it like Tennessee who is two and nine at the time,

618
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: and yes, so, which means he's working out for nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Chiefs never call him, The Bills don't

620
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: call him. You know, Baltimore doesn't call him, so all

621
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: of that stuff. It's at the point when you're struggling

622
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: about whether you want to play or not to keep

623
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: working out with no guarantees that you'll get the opportunity

624
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: if you don't take it. Now, maybe he's willing to

625
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: do that, But that's that's what you're talking about, though,

626
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: you see you can it's the hoop that it is like.

627
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 2: I because it wouldn't shock me. And again I don't

628
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 2: know this, but and again you could probably speak better

629
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: to this because you played into your mid thirties. You

630
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: get into your mid thirties. I think most guys by

631
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: the time they get to week fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen,

632
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: they're like, man, at this age, with this wear and tear,

633
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: I am not the same guy in week fifteen, sixteen,

634
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: and seventeen that I was in Week three, four and

635
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: five because my body can't recover like it used to.

636
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: So maybe I can be the best version of myself

637
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: if I only play seven or eight regular season games

638
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: and then make a playoff run.

639
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: Well, the cynic in us could say that's what happened

640
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: to Steph last year. You know, Steph gets to Week

641
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: eight nine, of the season, all of a sudden, Steph plateaus,

642
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: to say the least. So but then you know there's

643
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: a lot in that. I mean because changed offensive coordinators

644
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: and all that. So you know, right there's I'm saying

645
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: that is an example, but I don't think that's really

646
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: what happened with Steph. But that's kind of what you're

647
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm thinking, yeah, that, yes, there's no doubt.

648
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: And you've heard guys, old guys say it, guys like

649
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: me say it, and people poop poo it. It's a

650
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: real thing. It's a real thing. You get deep into

651
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: your career and you don't even want you don't even

652
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: want to when you're a rookie, you're ready to practice

653
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning after Sunday, and by your mid thirties

654
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: you don't even feel like practicing on Friday. I mean,

655
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: it just takes you that long to recover. You're you know,

656
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: you still feel the game on Thursday morning, let alone practicing.

657
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: So it's a real thing, and that, more so than

658
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: anything else, is what sucks the desire out of old

659
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: players is the just grind of getting up and just hurting.

660
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: And you listen, Football's fun even when you're practicing when

661
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: you feel good. It's fun to practice, to be out

662
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: there with your guys. Like we've seen it out here

663
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: in these off seas, I mean, good grief, these guys

664
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: are like rabbits. They're like a it's like a Bambi

665
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: movie out here. They're hopping around, jumping, laughing, and it's

666
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: not like and you know this too, it's not like

667
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: that week seventeen.

668
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: Those guys out there hitting hasn't started yet.

669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's it is a It is a crushing

670
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: burden to have to get up and play well week

671
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: after week when you never, and I mean never feel good.

672
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: That's what wears guys out at the end of their careers.

673
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: You just can't. It's like, oh my god, I can't

674
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: do it. I can't do it. So and it's hard

675
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: to believe for you know, for a guy who's you know,

676
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: it's thirties now, you know, but man, that's it's it's real.

677
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: So that's you know, Mike is sitting there dealing with

678
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: that all the you know, all these players like that.

679
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: They get to that point are like you're kind of like, Okay,

680
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: here we go, I gotta I gotta, here we go.

681
00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: I gotta you really gotta get in ready, yep, rushed

682
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: on the table for you.

683
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Speaker 2: Would you rather see the Bills play Christmas Day or

684
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving this fall in the twenty twenty four season? You

685
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: let us know. At eight O three five fifty to

686
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: Ryan in Toronto, we go, what's up, Ryan.

687
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Speaker 6: Chris Steve to your question about the Christmas game or Thanksgiving,

688
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 6: I'll say neither. The reason why I say that, you

689
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 6: know what, that's too late of a season and it's

690
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 6: going to be a showed week to be honest. Maybe

691
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 6: it's depending on when they get a bye week. I

692
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 6: don't know if that sounds fair or not. And I

693
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 6: have another question for you guys. Yeah, why is Brandon

694
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 6: Bean not signing z Jones, Oh, Hunter Renfro when you're

695
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 6: still out there and signing Claypool and MBS. I don't

696
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 6: see the point of this and just want to get

697
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: get taught on that.

698
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I probably like the style of MVS

699
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: is rather than like Hunter Renfro. He's a big outside receiver.

700
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro's more of a slot guy. Different skill set.

701
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: There's that, yeah, Zay, I mean MVS is a field stretcher.

702
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: They need field stretchers right now, because they have underneath guys,

703
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: whether it's Shakir Samuel, even Andy Isabella Hammler, you know

704
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: those guys are underneath players. Kincaid is a short to

705
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: intermediate receiver at the tight end position. They need field stretchers,

706
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: and Valdez Gantling has that. I mean, he's got a

707
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: career receiving average over sixteen yards. I believe he's proven

708
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 2: himself successful in that facet of the game.

709
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this too about your point about the schedule.

710
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: You're right, and Ryan from Toronto makes a great point

711
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: whether if you take your own personal preference out of

712
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: it and what's best for the team. I don't mind

713
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: him playing on a holiday, but you got to it.

714
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: The recovery and the short week and the quirky schedule

715
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: is a problem. It's a problem and it lays you

716
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage. If the Bills have If the Bill's

717
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: play on Christmas Wednesday, what happens to the game before,

718
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: in the game after, what are they gonna look like?

719
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: Are they gonna play on that Thursday night before the

720
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Speaker 1: Wednesday game? And then what happens you know the next week?

721
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the bye weeks are over by then, right,

722
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Speaker 2: So the last bye week is Week fourteen.

723
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Speaker 1: I think the schedule and recovery is a real thing

724
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: that if you time the bye week. I don't care

725
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: what any of these games. The schedule is fine, that

726
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: they can play on any day they want. From me,

727
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm working anyway, right, We're working out. Yeah,

728
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: But for most fans, most fans aren't like Ryan where

729
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: they're saying, guys, you know, I want my team to

730
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: have as much rest as they can at that time

731
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Speaker 1: of year, and that that's going to be a funky schedule.

732
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Speaker 1: And you're right. Nobody nobody plays on Wednesdays. I mean,

733
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Speaker 1: good grief.

734
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Speaker 2: I don't know this, but are the bills chances of

735
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: playing on an additional Thursday being in Thanksgiving reduced because

736
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Speaker 2: they're playing on Thursday in Week two against the Dolphins,

737
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Speaker 2: you know the game that was released today. Maybe I

738
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: don't know that it is, but maybe in some way

739
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: it reduces the chances of them playing on another Thursday.

740
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Speaker 2: But you let us know, would you rather see the

741
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Speaker 2: Bills play on Christmas or Thanksgiving this fall? For the

742
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four regular See, we know the schedule comes

743
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: out tomorrow in totality at eight pm. Let us know

744
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: which holiday you'd prefer to see your Bills. Eight O

745
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one, eighty eight five fifty two,

746
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Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. John and

747
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Detroit will lead us off when we return here on

748
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

749
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: Would you rather see the Bills playing on Christmas or Thanksgiving?

750
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: Both are possibilities for the Bills. Twenty twenty four regular

751
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: season schedule eighth three oh five point fifty one eight

752
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: and eighty five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to

753
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: jump on board get open lines for you. But we

754
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: lead off with John and Detroit, who I have an

755
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: idea what he might prefer? What do you got John?

756
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

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00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 7: Come on, Chris, what kind of add did you want? Well,

758
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 7: let me address the schedule first. As a Bill season

759
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 7: ticket holder, I really enjoyed when the Bills played here

760
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 7: two years ago because it's only a twenty minute drive

761
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 7: to Forward Field for me, and I went down to

762
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 7: Dallas and thom play Thanksgiving when I've gone to New

763
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 7: Orleans with That was a COVID year, so that screwed

764
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 7: up and they're three in all on Thanksgiving now, so

765
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 7: I like that in their favor. And yeah, it's very

766
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 7: stellarship be to pull for Thanksgiving Day, but that's the

767
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 7: one I would go with. Yeah, And I have one

768
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 7: other schedule related question, and that is is there any

769
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 7: is it impossible that the Bills could be selected to

770
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 7: be a visitor for one of the European Games this year.

771
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's impossible. I know the minimum is

772
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: you have to play one international game every eight years.

773
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: That is the minimum requirement. I'm sure there is a limit.

774
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: Maybe there is. I'll have to look that up. That's

775
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: a good question, John. I haven't heard of a limit

776
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: on international games. And I think the reason why is

777
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: because Jacksonville willingly plays over there every year as the

778
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: quote unquote London team. They play at Wembley, that's their

779
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 2: home stadium over there, so they play there just about

780
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: every year. So because of their existence as an annual participant,

781
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a limit.

782
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so there is either. I think

783
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: the problem with the European Games is getting one of

784
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: the NFL teams not to just flat refuse go right,

785
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: which happens and the Bill of Bills, I think did

786
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: up until the time they were at the limit and

787
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: they had to go.

788
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 2: They were at the limit because before last year's game

789
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium in Week five against the Jaguars,

790
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: in which the Bills were the home team, Jacksonville played

791
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: two games over there back to back weeks, so they

792
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: even played two international games in the same season. So

793
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a limit within reason. But the

794
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: Bills had not played overseas since twenty fifteen. They were

795
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: at the eight year limits, so they were a shoe

796
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 2: in to be an international game last year. I think

797
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: less so this year, but I don't think we can

798
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 2: rule it out. So it'll be interesting to see if that's,

799
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, part of the equation. Although did all the

800
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: international games get announced yet? No, they didn't announce all

801
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: the Germany games, did they.

802
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Speaker 1: I'll say no, I don't think so. I haven't heard

803
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: any London games or Berlin games or Frankfurt games, but

804
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: I sometimes that maybe we probably will.

805
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: Sometimes those trickle out.

806
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: It'll be trickled out at three five pm today, right

807
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: after we get off the air, so we can't talk

808
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: about it. But that's yeah. I hadn't thought about the

809
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: Bills getting another London game or a Germany game. I

810
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: would think that's still a possibility, although I don't know

811
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Speaker 1: who they'd be playing. That's interesting, Hu. I don't know

812
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: that could happen. I guess on but we have.

813
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: I think we had not.

814
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: Had any inkling of that.

815
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: And just they just played overseas last year. You got

816
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: thirty two teams to pick from. I'd be surprised.

817
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: And I think the hard time that the league had

818
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: getting them to go over there in the first place,

819
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: and then us losing the game over there.

820
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: Well, not to mention three players to injury.

821
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: The Bills are probably saying, you know what, count us out.

822
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: I would think they would.

823
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're saying it matters all that much.

824
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: Steve right. They may not want to, but that doesn't matter.

825
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: It might not, but also it wouldn't be. It might

826
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Speaker 1: be different too, playing in Frankfurt, Germany or Berlin rather

827
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Speaker 1: than London in Tottenham Hotspur because of the surface.

828
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: The other reason I think it reduces their chances is

829
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: because last year they had nine home games and they

830
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: relinquished one to play overseas. This year they only have

831
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: eight home games, so I think it reduces the chances

832
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: there as well, especially if they're a home team it's

833
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: supposed to play over there. I suppose they could be

834
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: an away team playing over there just as easily, but

835
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: I would tend to think they're on the lower end

836
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: of the scale in terms of teams likely to play

837
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: over there. Let's go to Judy in Buffalo next. What's up, Judy.

838
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 8: You know one of my favorite games ever is the

839
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 8: Thanksgiving game against the Dallas Cowboys. I remember the Cowboys

840
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 8: went right down the field scored the first such touchdown

841
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 8: and I thought, oh boy. But after that, for some reason,

842
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 8: the Bills took over. And you know it wasn't because

843
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 8: of Josh Allen, but Brian Daball had a great plan.

844
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 8: He used everybody at his disposal.

845
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 5: I think there was.

846
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 8: Even a weird quarterback or a touchdown play front a

847
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 8: running back or a throw to a receiver and everything.

848
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 8: But I really that was the game that put the

849
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 8: Bills on the marquee and I will never forget that game.

850
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 8: So every Thanksgiving I want the Bills to play because

851
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 8: that's our day.

852
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, claiming ownership, Judy, very Okay, all right? I mean,

853
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: it's anually been Dallas in Detroit's day, Yeah, because they

854
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: play every year.

855
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: But okay, I'll say this, I kind of I remember

856
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: that Thanksgiving Dallas. I remember that game very fondly, and

857
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: you're right. That was the game when the Bills finally

858
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: looked like the contending team that they that they have

859
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: been ever since that and that was a kind of

860
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: a national statement about this team's for real. Cole Beasley

861
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: had the big game, remember.

862
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: And yes, is the return to Dallas, and Devin Singletary

863
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: threw a touchdown pass to John Brown and I think

864
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: that's the play Judy was talking about.

865
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: I think too, that was I think that was the

866
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: last time, maybe not the last time, but one of

867
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: the biggest times that the entire country was surprised by

868
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: this franchise. I think that was a real surprise for

869
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people watching that game.

870
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: They're like, wow, this, did Starlettulaa have an interception or

871
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: a fumble recovery that that rings a bell?

872
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: I cannot remember, but that was one of those games

873
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: when the whole ever, but the whole Judy's.

874
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: Right, the whole test he had an interception.

875
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: You you are, You're on it. I remember that the

876
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: whole team jumped on that one. It was that was

877
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: a great win. You're right, and so maybe and because

878
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: of that now everybody, I don't know if I'm ready

879
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: to put every Thanksgiving into the Buffalo Bill's bin, but

880
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: certainly you're right. That's one of the old times.

881
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I had it backwards. John Brown threw a

882
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Devin Singletary. I had it flipped around.

883
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: It was Brown to Singletary, not Singletary to.

884
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: Brown, and Starlotula did have an intersection. She did have

885
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: an intercept. Really, indeed, there you go.

886
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: Pretty cool.

887
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: It was a good game.

888
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. Uh, let's go to

889
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: Kevin and Hamburg here quickly. Uh, what do you got first, Kevin,

890
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: You're on one Bill's life.

891
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Sure, bet, keV.

892
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 9: I'd like to see Detroit, not just because of what

893
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 9: the guy said about being coached a couple of calls

894
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 9: ago up in Thanksgiving, because we got to play Detroit

895
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 9: the extra game. You know, everybody has an extra game.

896
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 9: Last year with Tampa Bay, I like to see him

897
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 9: detroitent Banksgiving. But the main reason is is two years

898
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 9: ago we played Detroit on Thanksgiving. Our guys were so

899
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 9: pooped out from the snow swarm that weekend before they

900
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 9: had to live like gypsies going up to Detroit to

901
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 9: play Cleveland because the snow was so at the stadium,

902
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 9: coming back then going up. So that's why evenly Billy won,

903
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 9: they played like they were totally pooped out, even though

904
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 9: they survived or survived at the end. So I think

905
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 9: they they even only won, they didn't get the best

906
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 9: out of the team being living like vagabonds for like

907
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 9: a weekend that not even week and a half.

908
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's a good point, Kevin. Yeah, I

909
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: remember during that time, those of us that travel with

910
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: the team were wondering, are we going to stay in Detroit,

911
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: right because they had they had to go up there

912
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: for the relocated game against Cleveland the week before, and

913
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: then four days later they're gonna be right back there again.

914
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: And so we found out that wasn't going to be

915
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: the case. They were going to come home and you

916
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: know whatever, get their legs back under them and rest

917
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: for three days in their own beds and then go

918
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: back or I should say, well that game was on

919
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: a When did they play that game Saturday? When the

920
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: heck did they play that relocated game. It was maybe

921
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: it was Sunday. I can't I'll have to look it up.

922
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: But this was just last year.

923
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was it was two years ago,

924
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: all right, the twenty two season.

925
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: Twenty two. They played Detroit November twenty, November twenty, yeah,

926
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: November twenty, Sunday, Sunday to Thursday.

927
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was the early game on Thanksgiving. I mean,

928
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't even a LAK game, you know. And the

929
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: other thing weould consider too is the just because you

930
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: know it's Dallas and Detroit. Thanks Gaming is a triple header,

931
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: so there's there are two teams that you totally do

932
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: not know. You know, two teams are gonna be in it,

933
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: Detroit and Dallas. They're gonna be hosting. So that puts

934
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo in the mix because they do play at Detroit

935
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: this season. But there could be a third game that

936
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: Buffalo is involved in as well, like they were a

937
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 2: couple of years ago when they played at New Orleans.

938
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: It could actually be a home game, could be So

939
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I doubt that it will

940
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: be out. This is yeah, we don't get the schedule, Brownie,

941
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: and I don't they're not telling us anything except we

942
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: get it leaked out. But if we're if there's a chance,

943
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: if we were gonna get a Thanksgiving or Christmas game

944
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: at home, we somebody would have whispered that to us, right.

945
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: No, gotta take a break. When we come back, we're

946
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: gonna talk about that team the Bills are playing in

947
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: week two on Thursday Night football on Amazon Prime, the

948
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. Will catch up with our good friend Chris Perkins,

949
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: who covers the Dolphins. He's up next here on One

950
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

951
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 10: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

952
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

953
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: All right, now number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

954
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: Steve task me with you One Bill's Life. Thanks for

955
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: joining us, and please to be joined now by Dolphins

956
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: columnist for the South Florida Sun Centinel, Chris Perkins joining

957
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 2: us here, and let's just start with the obvious stuff. Chris.

958
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: We know when the Dolphins and Bills are playing in

959
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: week two. It's gonna be on a Thursday night to

960
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: kick off the Amazon Prime season down there in Miami

961
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: Prime Time. How does it grab you at face value?

962
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know, advantage Bills, right, I mean, you avoid

963
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: that hot humans conditions that the Dolphins love to have

964
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: their opponents in in September. So right off the bat

965
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: advantaged Bills. And here's the other advantage to the Bills.

966
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 3: We don't think that the Dolphins two top edge rushers,

967
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips will be back by then.

968
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: Bradley Chubb is rehabbing the ACL Jalen Phillips is rehabbing

969
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: the achilles, So there's another advantage for the Bills. So really,

970
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 3: and then the Bills just routinely kicked the Dolphins butt

971
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: the other So all things stack up toward the toward

972
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 3: Buffalo for this early season matchup, I think.

973
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: And what is a fallout from last year when the

974
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: Dolphins had the kind of a death grip on the

975
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: division up until that last month of the season when

976
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: it had slipped through their fingers, even up until week EIGHTEAM,

977
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: what's the fallout? Was there any offseas you know, these

978
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: acquisitions and certainly that a nice draft, but did was

979
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: there some reactionary player moves or personnel moves or decisions

980
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: in the offseason by the organization because they couldn't hold

981
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: it together through the end of the season.

982
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 3: Not really, And that's one of the things that bothers

983
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: me here. This is where I differ from the fans

984
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: and the other beat writers, because look, this is a

985
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: Dolphins team that went went you know, uh, ten and

986
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 3: ten and six, I mean eleven and six last season.

987
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: But they were one and six against playoff teams. And

988
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: so you have the number one offense in the league

989
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 3: that averaged sixteen points per game in those seven games

990
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: against playoff teams. And so, yes, they did get OBJ

991
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: as a number three receiver, a slot guy. That's really good.

992
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: They got John new Smith, the tight end who had

993
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: fifty receptions in Atlanta last year. That's really good. But look,

994
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: I need to see Mike McDaniel actually utilize this talent.

995
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: They there were times last year when when the run

996
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 3: game was working and he went away from the run game.

997
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: So there there hasn't been the necessary fallout. To me,

998
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 3: I would I would have liked to have seen them

999
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: get a better number number two tight end. I guess

1000
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: you'd say, to go alongside Durham Smyth, who is more

1001
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: of a blocker, John new Smith is good. I would

1002
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: have liked to have seen them do better. I would

1003
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: have liked to have seen them do better as far

1004
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: as getting a power runner. To me, the offense needs

1005
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: to be addressed a little bit more aggressively. But look,

1006
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: I think it was a productive offseason overall for the Dolphins,

1007
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: not a not necessarily a successful offseason.

1008
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like. I mean, they had a lot

1009
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: of turnover, much like the Bills did this offseason, and

1010
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: there could be more coming down the pike when they

1011
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 2: finally pay Tua. Has there been any reaction this week

1012
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: to the Jared goth extension in Detroit that averaged fifty

1013
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: three million a season for a guy who's numbers, at

1014
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: least on paper, aren't as good as Tua's. What's been

1015
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: the reception of that contract down there? Because the longer

1016
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: they wait, the more the price goes up for Tua.

1017
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's an interesting debate, which and there's

1018
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: something that I've alluded to on my podcast, Dolphins Deep

1019
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: Guy with Perk on Sun Sentinel dot com. How about

1020
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: that plug bear? But look, here's here's kind of how

1021
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: I look at the situation. If you're the Dolphins, your

1022
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 3: hammer to Tua is kind of twofold number one, Mike

1023
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: McDaniel loves you. You're not going to get a coach

1024
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: that loves you any more than Mike McDaniel. You've seen

1025
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: the other side of that coin, and it's called Brian

1026
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 3: Flores and he had you alternating with with Ryan Fitzpatrick.

1027
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: So you know, the Dolphins could tell you know, to

1028
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: a look this deal that we have on the table

1029
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: for you, And we don't know any details on the

1030
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: deal or whether a deal is on the table, but

1031
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: they could tell him this deal that's on the table

1032
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: for you, you need to take it because the alternative

1033
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: could be bad. And also, if you sustain one injury

1034
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: this year, whether it's a broken finger or a concussion,

1035
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: that guaranteed money goes down from us or anybody any

1036
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: other team on the free agent market, So that could

1037
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: be those could be the hammers that the Dolphins have.

1038
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: Tua could tell could tell the Dolphins look, and that's

1039
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: around if you want to you see what Jared Golf

1040
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: just got. My price will go up if I go

1041
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: to another Pro Bowl, and if I win a playoff game,

1042
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: my price goes up. So you know you need to

1043
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: make me a good offer. So you know that there,

1044
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: there's there's some uncertainty on how the Jared Goff deal

1045
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 3: is going to affect TUUS deal. You would think it

1046
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: works greatly in tu US favor though, that that would

1047
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 3: be what you think.

1048
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: What has Mike McDaniel said privately or publicly about the

1049
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: to A situation what he envisions for it.

1050
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel loves to it. He wants to keep to

1051
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: a here. Look, this whole offense is kind of built

1052
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: around to a strengths, right the the the quick release

1053
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: of the ball. You know, the offensive lineman don't have

1054
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: to maintain blocks for very long because you've got Tyreek

1055
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: Hill and and Jalen Waddell out there getting opened very quickly.

1056
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 3: Good reads uh, quick reads from from on the on

1057
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: the defense, uh, accurate throws. All of these things fit

1058
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: well into this offense and they play the to of strengths.

1059
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: So Mike McDaniel definitely wants to keep to a here uh.

1060
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 3: And I would think that, you know, if it's up

1061
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: to him, he would tell management general manager Chris Breer,

1062
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: owners Dan Ross, Hey, Tua, and I will deliver you

1063
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: the quarterback that you desired through my offense. Because my

1064
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: offense plays to his skills. But Mike McDaniel has only

1065
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: say it publicly. You know he wants the best for

1066
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: TUA and the organization.

1067
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: All right, So let's flip it over to the defense here, perk,

1068
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: because you lost they're arguably their best defensive lineman and

1069
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins. You already mentioned how Chubb and Phillips are

1070
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: working their way back from major injuries. I know they

1071
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: tried to address pass rusher both in the draft and

1072
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: with Shaq Barrett, who they signed away from Tampa Bay.

1073
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: Did they? They shotguns sprayed their defensive interior and free

1074
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: agency with a laundry list of names, but Ti your

1075
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: Tart and Benito Jones might be the only ones that

1076
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: people have heard of before. Have they done enough to

1077
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: help Zach Seeler inside?

1078
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: No, they haven't done nearly enough. And that's not being

1079
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: disrespectful to the Dolphins. That's being respectful to Christian and look,

1080
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: Zach Seeler, not only do you not have your buddy

1081
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins beside you, as we've said, you don't have

1082
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: Chubb and Phillips also. So if I'm an opposing offense

1083
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: pass rush purposes, yeah, I'm gonna focus hard on Zach

1084
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: Sealer and then probably for the run up front. Also

1085
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: because he's the guy that I know can hurt me.

1086
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: Everybody else I'll roll the dice on them. I have

1087
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: to see them hurt me. I know that Zach can

1088
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: hurt me. So no, they have not done nearly enough.

1089
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: And look, I'll give Vic Fanjio a lot of credit

1090
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: for that defense. Last season. They finished number ten in

1091
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: the league, and locally there was criticism of Vic Fangio

1092
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 3: because he played a lot of zone. He did not

1093
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: fully utilize Jalen Ramsey, he didn't have them shadow receivers,

1094
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: he didn't blitz a lot, especially against Will Levis in

1095
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 3: that Tennessee game, and he picked them apart. But the

1096
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: number ten defense, when you were missing Jalen Ramsey for

1097
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: the first seven games and those last four, you're missing Chubb,

1098
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: You're missing Phillips, You're missing Jerome Baker at linebacker, Javon

1099
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: Holland at safety, has hobbled, Xavian Howard at corner has hobbled.

1100
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: Bit did a great job. Anthony Leaver, who comes over

1101
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,479
Speaker 3: from from Baltimore as the defensive coordinator, has some big

1102
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: shoes to fill and he's he's suffered some pretty big

1103
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: personnel losses. I'm con.

1104
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: All right, we may have inter Our connection with Chris

1105
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: Perkins got interrupted there mid sentence. We'll try to see

1106
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: if we can re establish connection with him. But yeah,

1107
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: the defense would be a concern for me if I

1108
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: was a Dolphins fan, not only because of what they

1109
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: lost on the defensive interior with an all Pro defensive

1110
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: tackle in Christian Wilkins. The two pass rushers are injured

1111
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: hub Van ginkel is in Minnesota, who is an underrated

1112
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: pass rusher in my opinion, and then their inside linebackers

1113
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: are both gone. They replace them with free agent signings

1114
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: Jordan Brooks among others, But those guys don't move the

1115
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: needle for me at all. I don't think they're better

1116
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: at inside linebacker with Anthony Walker and Jordan Brooks, even

1117
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: though they threw a ton of money at Brooks three

1118
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: years thirty million. So to me, they have some of

1119
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: the same deficiencies they have always had against the Bills.

1120
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: Can't cover at the second level at the linebacker position,

1121
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: and their pass rush isn't what isn't even as good

1122
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: as it was last.

1123
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: Their linebackers have always and that's one of the reasons

1124
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: Josh is We've got this big running joke in Buffalo

1125
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: about Josh being the Dolphins Daddy's. One of the reasons

1126
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 1: is their linebackers have never been able to chase Josh down.

1127
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: Josh's run circles around their first their second level defenders

1128
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: all and they can't cover. So that's been a huge problem. Now,

1129
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: the guys up front le you mentioned when they're healthy,

1130
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: Chubb Phillips and back in the days when Wilkins was

1131
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: there and Van Ginkell and they were a load. But

1132
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: once those pass rushers couldn't get Josh and Josh stepped

1133
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: up through there into the second level, it was game

1134
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: over time and time again. We've seen it. I mean

1135
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: I was looking at social media today. There's a video

1136
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: out and it's two minutes of Josh running the football

1137
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins like he's on a beach. I mean,

1138
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm by himself. So that's an issue that

1139
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: still faces them.

1140
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: And the other thing too is, yes, they lost Christian Wilkins.

1141
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: They also lost his backup, ray Kwan Davis, who was

1142
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: the big three hundred and thirty pounder who they bring

1143
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: in the run front. I mean, like I said, They

1144
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: shotgun sprayed the defensive tackle position in free agency, but

1145
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: largely on one year budgetary contracts with some guys weren't

1146
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: even in the league last year that they saught, like

1147
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 2: Isaiah Mack who played for Baltimore in twenty twenty two.

1148
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: He was out of the league last year. And Davion Nixon,

1149
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: he was with Carolina in twenty twenty two. He was

1150
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: out of the league last year.

1151
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go to the Dolphins, you know, even now,

1152
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: you go to the Dolphins, you know website their depth

1153
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: chart is empty. I mean they got no they got

1154
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: They run three defensive linemen and four line ackers. They

1155
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: we run a three four scheme. They've got Zach Seiler

1156
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: and Deshaun Hann, Zach Seeler, Jack Sealer and that's it.

1157
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: So they've got Now there's obviously they've got guys on

1158
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: their roster now that you know aren't showing up here.

1159
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: But it is vacant. And he can make the same

1160
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: case about Buffalo, considering guys who have actually taken snaps

1161
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: for him. But man, oh man, it's you know, I

1162
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: was gonna ask, I was gonna ask, you know, Chris

1163
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: Perkins about you know, how big a wave or how

1164
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: big an excitement or electricity level does OBJ signing have

1165
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: for them and the Poyer signing. OBJ still got some cachet.

1166
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: Remains to be seen how effective he can be. But

1167
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: he played an entire season last year for Baltimore on

1168
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: a third one seas. Yeah, he had, but he was

1169
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: now on the number one seeds, so he had a

1170
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: role to play for them, and he wouldn't be I

1171
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: mean with Waddle and Tyreek. For the Dolphins, he's going

1172
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: to be asked to play a diminished role, which he

1173
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: seems okay with. Now. Yeah, their offense to me, and

1174
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Browne, I think their offense is going

1175
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: to be a load. Their defense might be a problem.

1176
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: They added more speed to the running back position, if

1177
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: that was even possible. You already got Raheem Moster at

1178
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: four to three eight, devon a Chan at four to

1179
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: two eight, and then you got Jalen Wright, who they

1180
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: just drafted out of Tennessee, who runs a four to

1181
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: three eight. So it's just like all three of their

1182
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: running backs are sub four to four.

1183
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, looks like we're not gonna be able to get

1184
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: rehooked up with Chris Perkins. So thanks Chris for coming on.

1185
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: We'll have them on again at some point for a

1186
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 1: Miami touch base.

1187
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 11: But that.

1188
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: They've got some stuff going on down there on the horizon.

1189
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: You know that it's going to come home to rust.

1190
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to make a decision on two

1191
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: and they got to get that deal done because I

1192
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: think that's a I don't know whether you what do

1193
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: you think. I think it's like an it's kind of

1194
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: a drag because you don't it's not certain what it's

1195
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: going to cost you, and because of that, you can't plan.

1196
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: I think two is if they don't have an extension

1197
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: done by the start of the regular season. I don't

1198
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: think two is showing up, And if I was him,

1199
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 2: I wouldn't either, because he's got a very short rope

1200
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: in terms of longevity of career. He is one bad

1201
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: concussion away from possibly being done. So if he wants

1202
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: true generational wealth type security, I'm holding out for my

1203
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: contract now. I am not waiting another year for it.

1204
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: I want my money, now, show me the money. If

1205
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: you don't show me the money, I'm not showing up

1206
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: because they're.

1207
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: Screwed to me.

1208
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: It's Mike White at quarterback that's right.

1209
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: Miami's in a spot where they have no leverage this

1210
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: year anyway, and it's too late.

1211
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, show me the money.

1212
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: It's too late. I mean, they can't move up in

1213
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: the draft now.

1214
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Jared Goff. You know who's a good quarterback.

1215
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 2: I would say he's above average. He's in the top

1216
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: half of the league, but he's not in the top ten.

1217
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: Jared Goff is more of a flavor of the month

1218
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: rather than an old faithful. He's just he's on a

1219
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: good team who flashed and cashed in on it.

1220
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 2: But he just signed for four years, two hundred and

1221
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: twelve million dollars. He's averaging fifty three a season, that

1222
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: second only to Joe Burrow and second highest quarterback in

1223
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: the league.

1224
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty of it is guaranteed one hundred

1225
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: and eighty and all to.

1226
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: His numbers are better than his now. The only thing

1227
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: that Goff has over him is he's won playoff game.

1228
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: He's NFC Championship game last year.

1229
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's and he went to a Super Bowl

1230
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,479
Speaker 2: with the Rams, as we know. That's right, So Tua

1231
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: doesn't have that. He does not have a playoff victory

1232
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: on his resume. Well, so you want to argue that

1233
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: if the Dolphin's fine.

1234
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, GoF has been in the league a lot longer

1235
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 1: than Tua and there's a you know, a bigger track

1236
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: for years plus plus. Think about this. You know, for golf,

1237
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: there's something to be said. And it's a little bit

1238
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: like the Josh Allen thing here in Buffalo, when you're

1239
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: that guy that that says, hey, enough of this losing,

1240
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna win now, and you're the guy that's the

1241
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: face of that. There's something in that for the franchise.

1242
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: And I think the fanchise feels a ton more pressure

1243
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: than the Miami Dolphins do about signing Tua. You know

1244
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1245
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: You can weigh it out any way you want. You're

1246
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: not gonna convince me that Tua needs the Dolphins more

1247
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: than the Dolphins need Tua right now.

1248
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Dolph. Here's that's why Tua doesn't show up.

1249
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: Exactly, and not only because of the Mike White situation

1250
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: that I mentioned, because all these deficiencies on defense and

1251
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: a new coordinator on defense for the third year in

1252
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: a row.

1253
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, what third year in a row? We're gonna ask

1254
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: somebody you're gonna win games playing offense with Tua not

1255
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,839
Speaker 1: locking teams down on defense.

1256
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: That ain't happening.

1257
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: I'll say this too. There's there's a couple of things

1258
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: about Miami that that seems I don't know, a little

1259
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: bit of a of a weakness in the arm. I mean,

1260
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: I've we've got We've always had a lot of respect

1261
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: for Mike McDaniel and the stuff he's done with their offense.

1262
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: They've been a really good team. They they're doing some

1263
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: things right. But there's a couple of things that have

1264
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: shown up that I'm like raising my eyebrows at. First

1265
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: of all, Vic Fangio got run out of town by

1266
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: the players.

1267
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that to me is like McDaniel kowtow to his player.

1268
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: That's right. Yes, that's a to me, that's a problem.

1269
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 1: To me, that's a problem.

1270
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 2: Bacially, since half the guys on defense are gone now anyway, Yeah,

1271
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: I I am no Raykwon Davis, no Andrew Van Ginkel,

1272
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: no Christian Wilkins, no Xavian Howard, like some of your

1273
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: best players are gone.

1274
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I don't know what happened there. And

1275
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: then also this, it's the Vic Fangio thing. And the

1276
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: culture that we thought I thought was seemed pretty healthy

1277
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel, not so much now that you got

1278
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator who's one of the best guys around

1279
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: getting run out of town by the players after having

1280
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, I don't know Vic Fangio. I

1281
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of guys, but he's never that's

1282
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: never been part of his reputation. So and that the

1283
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: Fangio thing and this Tua thing, along with the injuries

1284
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: and the question marks they have about the defensive front

1285
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: coming back now the Miami I think the shine is off.

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Speaker 2: And here's the other thing.

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01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: And you can say the same thing about Buffalo. I

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: get it on no question. I mean they've got some

1289
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: turnover and all that stuff.

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: But man oh man, and I'll we didn't get I

1291
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 2: didn't have a chance to address this with Chris Perkins either.

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01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 2: I don't think they did enough of the guard spot.

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: They lost their best guard, Robert Hunt, who got signed

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01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 2: away in free agency. They did sign Robert Jones to

1295
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 2: an extension the other guard, but they have Isaiah Win

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01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 2: basically touted to start at the spot left by Robert Hunt.

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: So he's going to start at left guard, at least

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: on paper. And he got signed by the Dolphins last

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01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: year in free agency and didn't get on the field

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01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: until somebody got hurt. So I don't think they did

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01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: enough of the guard position to upgrade that. And you

1302
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: can talk to me all day about how this offense

1303
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: gets the ball out of two his hands so fast

1304
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: that you don't need great protection. What the hell happens

1305
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: when it's third in seventeen, right, I don't care how

1306
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: fast your receivers are. They can't run the route fast

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01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 2: enough on third and seventeen to get to the damn stick.

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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: And I'll say this one of the things that you

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01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: notice when the Bills play the Dolphins. That ball doesn't

1310
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: come out on time. The Bills jump the route and

1311
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: two has got to pat the ball and wait for

1312
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: a secondary option. And if your offensive line isn't up

1313
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: to it, it shows up in a big hurry. Two

1314
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 1: lasted like one like four plays two years ago. The

1315
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: Bills were the first ones to put him on the ground,

1316
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: and he didn't come back to that game. I mean,

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01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 1: it's a problem.

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: Oh in twenty one, in twenty one or twenty two, sorry,

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01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: twenty two, I can't Yeah, So it was.

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01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: It was early on that that that was the key

1321
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 1: to the Buffalo being successful against this offense that's so

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01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 1: good against takeaway first, you got to jump those routes

1323
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: or take it away, take away those reads and make

1324
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 1: him pat the ball. If you can do that, that

1325
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: offensive line is not up to it. And you're right, Brett,

1326
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: they it doesn't seem like they think because of the

1327
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: way they run their offense. They don't think the offensive

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: line is going to be a problem because the ball

1329
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: is going to be out. And the only question what

1330
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: if it's not out?

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01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, or what if it's third and twenty two.

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01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: That's right, if you have a drop or something on

1333
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: think about it's just a problem.

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01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: Think about what happened in that game in Week eighteen

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01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: last year.

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: Okay, they they had.

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01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: A first down on their own half of the field,

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: and I can't remember if they were up or down

1339
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: in the game, but it was second half and they

1340
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 2: get stuffed on a first down run, second down, they

1341
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: have a penalty. Now it's second and fifteen, and then

1342
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: it turned into a sack. It was third and twenty.

1343
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: They get backed up, they punted away and it goes

1344
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 2: the other way. Ninety five yards for a touchdown because

1345
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: you got a punter.

1346
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: Trying to.

1347
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: Flip the field on a long kick, he outkicks his

1348
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: coverage and Deontay Hardy's coming the other way ninety five

1349
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: yards for a touchdown. Eric Wood talks about it on

1350
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: our radio broadcast all the time. That's how little things

1351
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:05,520
Speaker 2: get compounded.

1352
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: But and this is in that game though last year

1353
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. That's also the typic.

1354
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: The thing we started our conversation with Chris Chris Perkins

1355
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: about Josh Allens goes thirty for thirty eight for three

1356
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: point fifty nine, to go seventeen for twenty seven for

1357
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: a bucks seventy three. That weather's a problem. It's a

1358
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: problem for guys coming up here, right and it's gonna happen.

1359
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: We don't know. It looks like it's gonna happen this year.

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: They're playing Week two. You know, they're gonna play in

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01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 1: like week fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, or eighteen. That's gonna be

1362
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: a that's a potential problem for them.

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's there's a straw, you know, because

1364
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: the league has done this the last several years.

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01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: They put them usion games, They.

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: Put the division games at the front and the back

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01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 2: in most cases, or at least four of the six

1368
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: are at the front and the back of the schedule.

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01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 2: And we already know the Dolphins are playing them in

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: Week two. It's unlikely it's a division opponent in Week

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Speaker 2: one because the only choice left is the Patriots week one.

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01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: Because the Jets are playing the Niners in Week one.

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: We know that on Monday Night, it could be the Patriots.

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01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: It could be yeah, but end of.

1375
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: The season, very likely it's the Dolphins, because I think

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01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: a lot of people believe the Jets and the Dolphins

1377
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: are gonna be close to the Bills at the end

1378
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: of the season, So let's put them at the end

1379
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: of the year against those teams. So, yeah, you're probably

1380
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: looking at a game up here late in the season

1381
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: for Miami.

1382
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and the Bills got and no question, the

1383
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: Bill's caught a break. An early September game in Miami.

1384
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be nine thousand degrees, except that

1385
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be at night. It'll still be hot, but

1386
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: it'll be bearable, but it'll be better.

1387
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: You won't have to worry about being in the sun

1388
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 2: on the bench. No cooler zone fans because they're not

1389
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: using theirs.

1390
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely a game changer.

1391
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

1392
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls on would you rather have

1393
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: the Bills playing on Thanksgiving or Christmas Day? You let

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: us know at eighth three, five fifty will crack open

1395
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: the Twe cheat as well. Next here on One Bills Live,

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01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: presented by Colada Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 2: here we are One Bill's Live on a Tuesday. Chris Brown,

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: Steve tasking with you, asking you would you rather see

1399
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: a Christmas Day game or a Thanksgiving Day game for

1400
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 2: your Bills? Pick your holiday at eight oh three five

1401
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1402
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: They've played on Thanksgiving Day three times since twenty nineteen.

1403
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: They have never played on Christmas Day in the NFL

1404
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: has a double header scheduled for the Christmas holiday? It

1405
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: just I believe it's a double header.

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01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this different day, Black Friday.

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: Is that one back one hasn't been announced yet?

1408
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: Is that one game or two games or three games?

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: One last year standalone Friday game that was on Amazon

1410
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: on a Friday.

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01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: They're not gonna well, it's a after Thanksgiving.

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if it's still Amazon or if

1413
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: it's up for auction, essentially like who wants it?

1414
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: Who wants the Black Friday Game?

1415
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 2: I thought so, I would think it's still Amazon.

1416
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure it's only going to be one game.

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01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: Uh. Last I heard it was yeah, Yeah, that's okay. Yeah,

1418
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: so we'll have to we'll have to figure that out.

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01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: Let's go to the tweet sheeet though, see what you

1420
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: think there. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo

1422
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: TK says Thanksgiving in Detroit, mark it down. Buffalo TK.

1423
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: In the Prediction Business, Brad says Thanksgiving Christmas game will

1424
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: skew the schedule for extended periods, but also give a

1425
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: ten day break for late season game after Yeah, I

1426
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: worry about I mean, you're really late in the season.

1427
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: You're like week sixteen seventeen, and now you're going on

1428
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: a short week there when the bodies are already hanging.

1429
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is bad enough, Yeah, that's an issue. A month

1430
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: later that's a bear because Christmas, for those that don't know,

1431
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 2: is on a Wednesday this season.

1432
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: Right, and Thanksgiving is the November twenty eighth this year.

1433
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 2: Oh it's late.

1434
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: Black Friday is the twenty ninth, so yeah, yeah, that's

1435
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: it's late.

1436
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: Ryan says, Thanksgiving one hundred percent. Turkey Day is a

1437
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 2: true tradition. I would love to see Keon Coleman eat

1438
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: Ter duckin with a player of the game moment. Okay,

1439
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: so obviously, for selfish.

1440
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: Reasons, sign up for it.

1441
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: Sure, let's get back to the phones. We'll go to

1442
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: rob out in Connecticut. What do you got for us?

1443
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: Rob men?

1444
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 12: How's everything going with you guys?

1445
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: Pretty good?

1446
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: Thanks?

1447
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 12: All right, It's.

1448
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 5: Always a pleasure.

1449
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 12: And as I always say to everybody that works at

1450
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 12: WGRP five fifty, thank you for being my eyes, especially Chris,

1451
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 12: because I cannot see the games legally blind, so I

1452
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 12: listened to the games even we look on TV help

1453
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 12: and actually looking forward to the schedule this year because

1454
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 12: the Fyonce and I are planning on a trip to

1455
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 12: go to high Mark Stadium. I have never been to

1456
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 12: a home Buffalo Bill's game ever in my entire life.

1457
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 12: Even though I will not be able to see it,

1458
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 12: I still want to be a part of Bill's moth.

1459
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I want to will definitely be in tune

1460
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: for sure.

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 12: It's my dream, It's it's my bucket list. Before I die,

1462
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 12: I have to get there. So anyways, I'm I'm with

1463
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 12: the Christmas thing. I like Christmas Day against Kansas City.

1464
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 12: That would be the greatest. I think that would be

1465
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 12: a great game. Also, the home opener. I was thinking,

1466
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 12: wouldn't it be surprising if Seattle or Indianapolis are the

1467
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 12: home openers in Buffalo?

1468
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: Well?

1469
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 12: Well, are we playing the Western Conference?

1470
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: They are at Seattle this year, they're.

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 12: At they are at Seattle, but you already know that

1472
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 12: they're at Seattle.

1473
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the home game. We know who's home and who's away.

1474
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: So in the NFC West, it's at Seattle and at

1475
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: LA Rams home against Arizona, home against the Niners.

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01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, well we know it's not the Niners,

1477
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,440
Speaker 12: so it How about Indianapolis?

1478
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: Uh, Indy, is that's an away game?

1479
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's away, that's an away.

1480
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 5: That's an away game.

1481
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 12: All right. See, I didn't do my homework.

1482
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: I think it would probably be If you're gonna do

1483
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: one of those, it'll probably be the Cardinals or Tennessee.

1484
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: Maybe Jacksonville on opening Day. It'll probably be an off

1485
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: and out of you know division, out of conference opponent.

1486
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: If it's going to be that way, unless it's the Patriots,

1487
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: that's the only that's the only option.

1488
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we know the Jets are playing the Niners

1489
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: on Monday Night, Week one.

1490
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: We learned that today and the and the Miami Dolphins

1491
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins Bills won't play twice in two weeks.

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01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,839
Speaker 2: All right, so we'll mark you down for Christmas. Keep listening,

1493
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: thanks so, Rob wats Kansas City on Christmas. I know

1494
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: there's some fans out there that don't want the Chiefs

1495
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,799
Speaker 2: anywhere near their Christmas Day holiday, right, don't ruin my Christmas.

1496
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 2: The Bills have won the last three straight in the

1497
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: regular that's.

1498
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: Right, Nobody, no team is beating Pat Mahomes more than

1499
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: the Bills. But here's the thing. It's not something even

1500
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: if they win the game, it's like the build up

1501
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: to the game is like it's you know as that

1502
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: you don't want on all. Yeah, we're all you just

1503
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: want to sit down, you know.

1504
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's each your Christmas hand game, you know, eat

1505
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 2: your Christmas ham you know your mask. I get that.

1506
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: I get that. You got to live with it. You

1507
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: got to live with the angst of playing now, you know.

1508
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: But if I was going to pick a holiday this

1509
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: year would be Thanksgiving. I don't want I don't want

1510
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: to play a Wednesday game.

1511
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the day of the week really tips it for me.

1512
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to play a Wednesday game.

1513
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 2: It's it's because it means you're either got a short

1514
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: week going into it or well, actually it'd be a

1515
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: long week coming out of it.

1516
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 3: Ryeah.

1517
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

1518
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: Short week going in no matter what I'm telling you.

1519
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: And even if you play Thursday night the week before,

1520
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: you're still a day short.

1521
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: That's all it. We'd all be discombobulated by that. I'm uh,

1522
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: just give me the Thursday game. Discombobulated. That is true.

1523
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: That does happen. I come in here off those weird

1524
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 2: weeks and I don't even know what day it is. Yeah,

1525
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: so it does happen. It throws you for a loop,

1526
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: it does. I can't imagine what it does for the players.

1527
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: These bodies are all beat up. Let's get back to

1528
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: the phones and too, Ricky in Toronto, what do you

1529
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: got for us? Rickey?

1530
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, thank you for taking up I just want

1531
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 11: I want Christmas just because we don't get Thanksgiving off

1532
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 11: up here in Canada like you guys do. I really

1533
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 11: don't want to take a day off. I will if

1534
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 11: the bills are playing. But I was listening to you guys,

1535
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 11: and I forgot Christmas was on a Wednesday. So now

1536
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 11: I'm rethinking my.

1537
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: Week.

1538
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, for personal reasons, I rather on the miss just

1539
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 11: because i'd really don't want to burn another day off.

1540
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you're off. It's a holiday for you.

1541
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that.

1542
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: And their Thanksgiving is a month earlier, right? Isn't there

1543
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving in October in Canada? Steve? It's earlier right? Yeah?

1544
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: Well usually, yeah, Canada's And here's how I The Canadian

1545
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 1: Football League's Gray Cup is always on Thanksgiving Day weekend.

1546
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, US Thanksgiving and Indian Thanksgiving October fourteenth this year. Yeah,

1547
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: it's a month earlier. Okay, So I was right that

1548
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: they're I'm glad I pay close enough attention to our

1549
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: neighbors to the north to at least.

1550
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: Know that the Gray Cup is always on Thanksgiving US

1551
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving up in Canada. Yes, and yeah, that's yeah, I

1552
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: get it. Because ultimately It's about each of us and

1553
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: what we really want for our holiday season, right, I

1554
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: mean that we did get I will give I will

1555
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: give Rick some credit, Oryan some credit in Toronto, the

1556
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: earlier caller who said, I know, I want our team rested,

1557
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: I want their schedules, right, he was the only one.

1558
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: Who is the only unselfish fan out.

1559
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: He's more unselfish than me. I mean, I don't know, so,

1560
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so it Wednesday is a crusher man, That's why.

1561
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was surprised. They're like, yeah, and

1562
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: we're doing a double header.

1563
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: I was like, what, I'm really surprised the league went there,

1564
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: uh playing on Christmas on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

1565
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: I find I get it, whatever day it is Wednesday,

1566
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 1: but Wednesday, man, they want it.

1567
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 2: They are railroad and that thing in there. And I'll

1568
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 2: tell you what, can you imagine the money they made

1569
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: last year on It's gonna cost him to convince them

1570
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: to play two games on a Wednesday. I mean it's

1571
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 2: gotta be a seismic number.

1572
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: Got a pony up for that, don't you. That's gotta

1573
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: be a huge amount of what.

1574
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 2: Were they saying the other day, Like last year the

1575
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: Peacock game was one hundred million. That was Jets and Dolphins,

1576
01:23:58,560 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: I think.

1577
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: And now.

1578
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: For two Christmas Day games, they were talking like maybe

1579
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: up to three hundred million per game, six hundred million

1580
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 2: dollars for the two game pack.

1581
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna find out what they paid it they're

1582
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna keep. I don't know, it's crazy. Wow, that's crazy.

1583
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: That I think that. I hate to say this, but

1584
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 2: like you know, we we've heard Netflix being way in

1585
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:26,799
Speaker 2: on the Christmas Day games. Like I think the number

1586
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: that it's going to cost if you buy both games

1587
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,560
Speaker 2: is going to stupefy us. I really do.

1588
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: Hey, man, it all goes into the cap. What are

1589
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: you gonna say?

1590
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: I guess to Mark in West Senecon, X. What's up? Mark?

1591
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 9: Hey?

1592
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 13: Guys? All are today?

1593
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: Good?

1594
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 12: Hey?

1595
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 13: A couple of things. First, of all holiday games, my

1596
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 13: vote is none. I'm the guy that typically makes the

1597
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 13: holiday dinner and I miss a lot of the games,

1598
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 13: and I do not want to be in the kitchen

1599
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 13: while the Bills are playing, so I vote for none. Secondly,

1600
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 13: the schedule, I'd love to see the Bills. I don't

1601
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 13: know if this is gonna happen. But open up against

1602
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 13: New England and then play Miami, set precedence against the

1603
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 13: new New England coach how it's going to be, and

1604
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 13: take him the task, and I go to an olden

1605
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 13: division right at the beginning of the season.

1606
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: I think that would be great to be nice to

1607
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: have in your back pocket.

1608
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, it would be just absolutely awesome. But the reason

1609
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 13: I was calling is, and I find a surprise. You

1610
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 13: guys can talk about this a little bit more. The

1611
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 13: signing of the referee by the Bills.

1612
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good move.

1613
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 13: I you know, I think you do everything you can

1614
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 13: to always get an advantage. But to me, it's a

1615
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 13: commentary on where the game's at. And one thing you

1616
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 13: guys said, I don't know, Brownie, if it was you

1617
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 13: or Steve. Get a guy in there that sees the

1618
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 13: game the way the referees do as opposed to the

1619
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 13: way the players or the coaches see the game. And

1620
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 13: to me, that's an issue when the game is being

1621
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 13: played on the field and the administrators of the game

1622
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 13: see the game differently than the player and the coaches

1623
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 13: who teach the game, that confuses me. And I'm talking

1624
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 13: I'm not talking about whether or not a guy made

1625
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 13: the catch and had control going out of bounds or

1626
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 13: things like that, Okay, whether you know something actually happened

1627
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 13: according to the rules, I'm talking about when we're arguing

1628
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 13: about offsides, whether it should be called or not. To me,

1629
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 13: that's black and white. That's offside, okay. But we're talking

1630
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 13: about when the referee looks at an offensive lineman and

1631
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 13: is he holding while wear his hands inside the shoulders

1632
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 13: are out on the shoulders. To me, as a fan,

1633
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 13: it's irrelevant. If the guy is not grabbing and controlling

1634
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 13: the other player, it's not holding. Why are we being

1635
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 13: so technical when we get into these calls about formation? Okay,

1636
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 13: The fans don't care if a tackle on the offensive

1637
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 13: line was covered. The fans don't care if two guys

1638
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 13: were in motion at the same time. The defense has

1639
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 13: the opportunity to adjust to everything the offense does before

1640
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 13: the snap. The game and the rules are too ambiguous.

1641
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 13: They need to scale the rules down, and they need

1642
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 13: to simplify things to as close to black and white

1643
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 13: as possible, because the game is still a game of

1644
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 13: will you try to impose your will on the other team,

1645
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 13: and the guys that do typically win and I'll get

1646
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 13: off my soapbox out. I thank you so much.

1647
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: You bet.

1648
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we mentioned that earlier and I had

1649
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: said it's kind of good to get somebody who sees

1650
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: it from the referees perspective, with John Perry having been

1651
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: a former referee, and Steve agreed saying, yeah, you want

1652
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: a guy that's dispassionate, Like, try to tell a coach

1653
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 2: to be dispassionate on game day, try to tell a

1654
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: player to be dispassionate on game day. You can't do it.

1655
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark and West sinning. I get it what you're saying,

1656
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: and everything he said, you know, holds a lot of water,

1657
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: and it's and it makes perfect sense. I still like this.

1658
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: This the hiring of the official. As far as the rules,

1659
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: this is a little bit. I mean, you can equate

1660
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: it to the NBA when they dribble the basketball or

1661
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: when they walk when technically both their feet shuffle while

1662
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: they've got the ball standing still and it should be

1663
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 1: a travel, it's not. It's yes, you're right. The fans

1664
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: don't care about whether you know their deformation is legal

1665
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: or not. What they care about is if it's legal

1666
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: for one team, it's got to be legal for the

1667
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: other team. If one team has got their offensive tackle

1668
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: lined up as a wing back instead of on the

1669
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage because they can't stop the edge rush,

1670
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: that's a problem for one of those teams. But if

1671
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: they call it the same all the way around, we're

1672
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: pretty much good with it. I think this if it

1673
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,560
Speaker 1: is indeed the Bills who hired John Perry as a

1674
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: as a liaison, I think it speaks to how much

1675
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 1: is on the plate of a head coach and a

1676
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: coaching staff and all that they need somebody to navigate

1677
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: through that. And so that's where there, that's where this

1678
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: is at. It's game management and having somebody on your

1679
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: side who sees it the way the league will see

1680
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: it and give you the best option.

1681
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Break time for us. We're back to close it out

1682
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live. Stay with us all

1683
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 2: right back here on one Bills Live. And I guess

1684
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: if there's something we learned today, Steve, it's not only

1685
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: that the Dolphins are hosting the Bills on Thursday night

1686
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 2: Football Week two, but we generally feel pretty good about

1687
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: them playing one pm home opener. Yeah, twenty twenty one,

1688
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: was that's the time that happened.

1689
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a guest. But it looks like it's going

1690
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 1: to be a hot September day in Orchard Park. Let's go.

1691
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

1692
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

1693
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: September here a great, it's peak season. That's it for

1694
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 2: us today, schedule release tomorrow. We'll be ready for it.

1695
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: We'll see it one

1696
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Mmmmmmm