1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: CAFI I AM six forty. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Chris Merril caf AM six forty. 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: More stimulating talking for John and Ken today and is 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: one of those weird days. If you have to work today, 7 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: sorry if you also, if you have work today, chances 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: are you're working in retail or radio as. 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Part of the B team. 10 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Also, there is that outside chance that you are working 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: a real job, but you're not actually putting in any 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: effort today. That's what's going on at our house. My 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: wife works remotely. I'm going to out her right now 14 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: for bosses listening. She said, I don't think there's anybody 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: in the office at all, So I'm just going to 16 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: kind of be available and check my team's chat every 17 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: now and again. And otherwise I'm going to start deck 18 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: rating for Christmas. So I think that's a lot of 19 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: what's going on today. Otherwise, people are are fighting traffic 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: to try to get there, get their sale on and 21 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: that's where Blake Trolley joins us from KFI News Reporter 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: and Treppet Reporter and Blake, I know one of the 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: big concerns this year has to do with the retail fraud, 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: the theft that we've seen, these organized crime rings and 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: things like that, and some sheriffs are stepping up their 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: efforts to deter that from happening. 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: That's what you've been talking about today. 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, specifically in San Manardino County, the largest county in California. 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: Chris I had a chance to catch up with Sheriff Shannondikas, 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: who's really stepping up efforts to curve retail crime. This year. 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: The sheriff is reassigning at least seventy deputies from an 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: operation that targets gang and gun crime to fight retail crime. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: As we get through the holidays, many of these deputies 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: we'll be working undercover in San Bernardino's hot retail centers, 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: two of these being Rancho Cucamunga in the high desert area. 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: In Rancho Cucamunga you have Victoria Garden's big outdoor mall, 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: and just around that mall, there's a lot of other 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: big box stores, including a bass Pro shops. The sheriff 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: says they've already been at it this year. There's been 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: thirty fourth that's the restaurant, fifty thousand dollars worth of 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: recovered merchandise from July just to this month. So that's 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: just a few months that he's sampling there when he's 43 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: pointing out those numbers, and I'm sure that these numbers 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: that he's released, some of these retail theft numbers are 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 3: going to really come up as this operation gets underway, 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: and not just because there's going to be more deputies, Chris, 47 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: but actually because of what those deputies can do. Deputies 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: can only cite misdemeanor theft in California if it's witnessed 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: by store staff. However, and I want to go to 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: BTE one, this is the sheriff explaining this here. They 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: get a much bigger stinger if they're undercover and they 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: witness it themselves. 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: If you listen to the complaints from the public, is 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: you know, we're only able to cite these people when 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 4: a store detective, for instance, witnesses this and misdemeanors. If 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: they're not witnessed by the law enforcement officer, that's really 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: all we can do. However, if we see the theft occur, 58 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: then of course we can make an arrest on it, 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: book the person into jail, and it takes it the 60 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: next level above, not a citation, and and then we 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: get them before the court and get these cases resolved. 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Now you're talking the difference between a ticket and feeling 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: the cold steel on your wrists. 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know, sam Ernardino County does butt up 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: against La County, but their DA has taken a pretty 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: strong stance as well and come out saying he supports 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: the sheriff with this effort, and the DA there is 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: really going to prosecute these cases to the fullest extent 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: that they can. 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 5: Now. 72 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: Of course, they're still under Prop forty seven statewide, which 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: does make things tough. And this is something that the 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: sheriff has talked about, you know, wanting to see that number, 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: that nine, nine hundred and fifty dollars for misdemeanor to 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: become a felony to come back down. There are efforts 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: right now in Sacramento to bring that number down. And 78 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: when you really think, Chris, about all of the efforts 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,559 Speaker 3: that law enforcement has to make and all the investment 80 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 3: that is happening statewide to curve retail crime, you really 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: wonder if that number is coming back down. I want 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: to go right back into one more sound bite Chris. 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: On top of the more arrest the sheriff, a law 84 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: enforcement official, really honed in on this year, saying, Heath 85 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: fears this year will be worse than usual for theft. 86 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: There are a number of indicators for that. I mean, 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 4: we all see inflation and the cost of items. I 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: think that's maybe driving some of that. And you've seen 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: the brazenness. I mean, there's been so many examples on 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: national news media of these smash and grab types of 91 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: robberies and the mayhem that comes with them. So we're 92 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: going to try to be there in mass to prevent it. 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 6: And my way of. 94 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: Thinking is I want these people that are going to 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: even remotely think about shoplifting. They're not going to know 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: if they're standing next to a deputy sheriff in the store, 97 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: or whether or not they're standing next to a citizen, 98 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: And I want them to think twice about it before 99 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 4: they do these things. 100 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: Because h so Blake, that's interesting. It sounds like the 101 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: increased fear is because of what inflation. 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's a number of things that he's saying. 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: He's saying that items have become more expensive, therefore people 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: are committing more crime just because they're worth more money, 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: especially worth more money to resell. I mean, a lot 106 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: of this stuff is you sell these items to somebody, 107 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: usually a fence. They redistribute these items out of much 108 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: cheaper cost. I just did a story recently. I forgot 109 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: exactly how many, but they found a bunch of stolen purses, 110 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: high end handbags out of home out in the valley. 111 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: And that's kind of how that works, right, That's an 112 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: expensive item. This is kind of an extreme example, but 113 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: it's an expensive item. You're able to grab it, you know, 114 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: steal it from people. These bags were mostly taken in 115 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: home thefts actually, but nonetheless they're able to take this 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: and offer it to people for a cheaper price a 117 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: lot of times through the Internet or swap meets various means. 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the interesting things about all of 119 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: this theft, if you talk to investigators is where does 120 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: it end up. It ends up kind of everywhere as 121 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: far as where they choose to go and to go 122 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: and sell it. But you're really wonder, Chris, if that 123 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: number is coming back down. You know, it's another year, 124 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: it's another holiday year where these stories in California become 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: about retail theft, and what are what has law enforcement 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: doing the curb retail theft? And you just wonder if 127 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: they're going to roll back Prop forty seven and that 128 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: dollar amount to to bring the felony amount back down. 129 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: You know, Blake, I'm glad you brought that up, because 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: I've been wrestling with this Prop forty seven argument for 131 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: a long time. And if I'm honest with you, that's 132 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: such a it's such a red herring that's been around 133 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: since twenty fourteen, right, and it raises it puts the 134 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: threshold between a misdemeanor and a felony at nine hundred 135 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars. Now, I've been doing a little bit 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: of work in other markets because I'm a notorious radio slut. 137 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: I just I fill in at radio stations all over 138 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: the place, and so I have the benefit of sort 139 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: of seeing how things work elsewhere. 140 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: And I was talking about this retail stuff. 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: I was doing some work in Texas, and you know 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: that their threshold is. 143 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: Two thousand dollars. 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: And when you think of when you think of retail 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: crime and retail crime, organized retail crime, you think of 146 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: California and we go, wow, that Prop forty seven is 147 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: the whole reason. 148 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 7: But it's not. 149 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: It can't be because if that were the case, you'd 150 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: have twice as much retail crime going on in Texas 151 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: because their threshold is twice as high as California's. So 152 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: I just feel like that's such a such a red 153 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: herring that is being thrown out there for political argument, 154 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: and especially in light of the increasing costs of items 155 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: and the increasing the inflation that we have right now. 156 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: When that was passed back in twenty fourteen, nine hundred 157 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars in today's dollars, going back, it actually 158 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: is becoming the value is less simply because of the 159 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: inflation that we've seen over the last few years. So 160 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: I always feel like that Prop. Forty seven is such 161 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: a such a confusing thing to throw out there. I 162 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: am curious about this though. In San Bernardino. How long 163 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: are these deputies that they've moved from the gun and 164 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: the gang operations into the retail crime, which, by the way, 165 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: the undercover cops in the retail stores. 166 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: What a great idea. Plus for the cops. 167 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: They get the shop while they're at work, which is 168 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: what we all do anyway, So it's only fair that 169 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: they get too as well, how much how long are 170 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: they going to spend in this retail crime task force 171 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: and in the meantime, what's going on with the other 172 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: task force. 173 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: For So, that's what I was going to say for 174 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: a very important Yeah, well, Chris, that's what I was 175 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: going to say. That's a really important task force. I mean, 176 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: one of the things we just did a story about 177 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: this task force, and one of the main targets that 178 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: this task force is going after is ghost guns in 179 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: the region. I don't have the numbers right now, but 180 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: they are pretty high, the number of ghost guns that 181 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: this task force was able to get off the streets. 182 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 8: Now. 183 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: The answer to that question is actually indefinitely. And let 184 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: me explain that the sheriff told me that the task 185 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: force will be working mostly these hardcore retail cores through 186 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 3: the holiday season, but certain members of this task force 187 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: will remain in dealing with theft at stores, but they're 188 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: going to shift it a little bit. I've been told 189 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: from retail theft when we get through the holidays to 190 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: grocery store theft. That's also something that's been real rampant, 191 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: and I would imagine some will still remain in retail 192 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: theft and it's interesting you brought that up. 193 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: Christy. 194 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: You have an opportunity to look at other states, and 195 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: I think that's a great open ended question that you 196 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: asked there about Prop forty seven. But nonetheless, with this 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: much retail theft, maybe the political will will be there 198 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: to you know, nonetheless, whether it's actually to blame or 199 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: not to shift things back down. 200 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: What a great point make, Blake, because how often how 201 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: often is the political argument the actual argument? 202 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 8: Right? 203 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: I mean how often? How often do the facts match 204 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: up with the emotion? Just not always the case. There's 205 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: just it's a it's a multi headed cerrabus that we're 206 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: dealing with here when we talk about the monster that 207 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: is the retail theft, and just don't think there is 208 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: this one one magic arrow that'll fix everything. 209 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: Fascinating. 210 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: And I also, you know the sheriff saying some will 211 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: stay on and definitely I have to wonder if that's 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: you know, if that statement is as much is as 213 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: much a warning to would be thieves as it is 214 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: sort of talking to us in media about their plans. 215 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: In other words, it's sort of like giving your withdrawal 216 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: date from Afghanistan. It just tells the Taliban to wait 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: until that date and then everything's theirs. Right, same situation. 218 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: If we say, well listen, then we're going to end 219 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: the task for us. The thieves are like, all right, well, 220 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: we're just gonna hang out until January fifteenth and then. 221 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: Back at it, right. Yeah. 222 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean, one thing that the Sheriff's made really clear here, Chris, 223 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: is that he wants the you know, he wants thieves 224 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: to know that there's going to be undercover officers. And 225 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: you know, one thing I want to talk about is, 226 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: you know as well, you know, if the sheriff did 227 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: highlight that this is a national issue, he did recognize 228 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: that this is happening nationwide, but here in California. Just 229 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: to hone in on a few brazen acts yesterday and again, 230 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: this just really highlights to the start of the retail 231 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: holiday season that we're having. Yesterday, I was in China 232 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: where a group of five people ran into a ross store. 233 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: One of those thieves punched a store employee in the 234 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: face when the employee tried to confront them. A dozen 235 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: French bulldogs worth more than one hundred thousand dollars were 236 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: stolen in Gardena. A big group of miners up to 237 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 3: fifteen ran into a Nike store in South LA and 238 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: stole twelve thousand dollars worth of shoes. On top of 239 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: the San Marino County Sheriff's department. Governor Newsom has allocated 240 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: CHP resources to combat retail crime state wide. So whether 241 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: it's a national issue, a state issue, a local issue, 242 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: it no no matter how you look at it, it 243 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: is definitely an issue and it is the story this 244 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: holiday season. Again, we were doing very similar coverage you 245 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: and I the B team last year. 246 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: So true, my friend, so true. 247 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: Also, maybe for the next expos we can talk about 248 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: how twelve French bulldogs are worth over one hundred thousand dollars, 249 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: because that seems to be a big problem in my mind, 250 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: the cost of a French bulldog. What's the matter with 251 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: people who's paying that? 252 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: All right, Blake Trolley, always great, shock different, I know 253 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: what's meaning? 254 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: Can you just buy a pug and tell people it's 255 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 3: a French bulldog and you know. 256 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Exactly they don't know the difference. 257 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 7: I don't know. 258 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: All right, Blake, always going to talk to you pal. 259 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: I have a great weekend here, my friend. 260 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, Blake Trolley from KFI 261 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: News speaking of shopping forget e commerce, which is what 262 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: everybody's going to now, how about mick commerce. Mick that 263 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: can't be right, that's next. I'm Chris Merril, KFI AM 264 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: six forty in for John and Ken live everywhere in 265 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: your iHeartRadio app. 266 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 9: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 267 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 9: AM sixty. 268 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: Big push for Pastathon, Pastathon, dot compostathon dot com. The 269 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: bar is pretty high. We've done such a great job. 270 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: The entire community in southern California done such a great 271 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: job of giving over the last however many years. It's 272 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: been like forever. So you know you continue to step 273 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: up and we're asking you to do it again this year. 274 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: So please postathon dot compostathon dot com. 275 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: So e commerce. 276 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: Everybody's doing their retail shopping today. It terrifies me those 277 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: of you that go out and I was listening to 278 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: the traffic reports earlier. 279 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: We are on Citadel and. 280 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: Other moles and shopping centers and stuff, and it just 281 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: the older I get, the more misanthropic I. 282 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Get, it just terrifies me. 283 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: There is nothing worse than being in a packed parking lot. 284 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: And even if I do find a parking spot and 285 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: I'm able to get in there without other cars honking 286 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: at me and me feeling like I've got pedestrians waiting 287 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: for me to hurry up and park and all this stuff. 288 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: I start to get real jittery just things about it. 289 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: And then once I get inside, I can't handle the chaos. 290 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't do very well with it at all. And 291 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. Honestly, I don't know what it is. 292 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: My therapist doesn't know what it is either. He just 293 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: says I'm nuts. So I gotta tell you. I always 294 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: look at society. I think like an ant does you 295 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: know how ants? If you look at an ant farm, 296 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: they're all moving in different directions and it seems very chaotic, 297 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: But in truth, they all have a destination and they're 298 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: all part of kind of a system. 299 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Right. That's sort of how I am. 300 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: And so if I go into a place and everything 301 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: is actual chaos where there is no system, it's just 302 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: a lot of people doing different things with their own 303 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: immediate self interest, not even like long term self interest, 304 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: but immediate self interest, like stopping in the middle of 305 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: the doorway as soon as people are trying to walk in, 306 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: just stopping so that they can self interestedly look around 307 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: and try to figure out if they want to go 308 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: to the left or right. 309 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Do I want to go to Sears first or Macies. 310 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: This is a decision I could not have made before 311 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: I set foot in front of this door and then stopped. See, 312 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm getting worked up just thinking about it. Really, I'm 313 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: fired up over this stuff. I can't handle it, and 314 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: I start getting it's not a panic attack. I don't 315 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: want to because I feel like if I say it's 316 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: a panic attack, then I'm I'm kind of diminishing what 317 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: people who are suffering from actual panic attacks have. But 318 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: I do get let's call it an anxiety attack where 319 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: I will start to feel like the walls are closing in, 320 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: I get tunnel vision, I start to get sweaty, and 321 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: I start to convulse. I mean really, I start to 322 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: get shaky. I can't handle it, and I have to 323 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: step aside. I can't be in the middle of it. 324 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: I have to kind of back myself up against a 325 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: wall and just stand there and try to get my bearings. 326 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: And my wife first time that happened when we were together, 327 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: she thought I was just trying to ruin her outing. 328 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: But then she realized, oh no, he's nuts. He really 329 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: has this issue. So I guess my point is be 330 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: an ant, go somewhere with purpose, or like me, I 331 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: do a lot of shopping online. They call it the 332 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: e commerce, and I know I'm supposed to wait until 333 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: Cyber Monday. I don't do a very good job with that. 334 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: They call it e commerce. E commerce, they say is 335 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: on the rise in recent years. But there's a new 336 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: form of e commerce. 337 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: Did you know. 338 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: E commerce, of course, is the online commerce. There's a 339 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: new commerce. It's m commerce, or when you look at it, 340 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: it looks like it's mcommerce. I'm just telling you the 341 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: way it looks, it looks like macommerce. In fact, as 342 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: I was reading the headline for the article on e Marketer, 343 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: it says rise of miccommerce. So m commerce or micommerce 344 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: is mobile e commerce. So you know, when you're on 345 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: your phone and you're just jacking around and you're scrolling 346 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: through Instagram or X or threads. I've been doing a 347 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: lot of threads lately, and you get to you end 348 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: up seeing an AD and then you click on that ad. 349 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: That's m commerce mobile commerce. Or you're sitting on the bus, 350 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: you're in public transit right, and so you open your 351 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: phone and you open up the Amazon app and you 352 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: just start scrolling through there. That's m commerce. So it's 353 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: e commerce on your phone, miccommerce. I call it micommerce 354 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: or m commerce. And the number of retail m commerce 355 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: sales continues to grow. 356 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: In fact, when it comes. 357 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: To e commerce, about six and a half percent of 358 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: total retail sales, total sales come from people on their phones, 359 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: and they expect that number to continue to grow upwards 360 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: close to ten percent over the course of the next 361 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: five to six years. M commerce sales they expect to 362 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: hit forty percent of e commerce sales next year alone. 363 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: Retail still is the brick and mortar is still the king. 364 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: But still we're talking about the phone being the one 365 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: of the most primary avenues of doing some shopping. And 366 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm all for it because I don't have to deal 367 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: with somebody trying to decide if they want to turn 368 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 2: left or right while they stand in front of the 369 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: door and block everybody else from. 370 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 7: Getting in the star get out of the way. 371 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: Hey, there's good news on the Israel Hamas warfront. Twenty 372 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: four hostages released and they're being checked out as we speak. 373 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: We'll get an update on the reaction locally. Next, I'm 374 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: Chris merrill I and for John and Ken KFI AM 375 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: six forty. We're live everywhere and you're on radio app. 376 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 9: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 377 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 9: AM six forty. 378 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: Hamas is free twenty four hostages. Israel has sent thirty 379 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: nine back that was part of the deal. In the 380 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: forty ceasefire, there's thirteen Israelis, ten people from Thailand, and 381 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: one Filipino according to Cutter. And that agreement, that's that 382 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: temporary ceasefire, the temporary truce, the four days ceasefire, I 383 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: guess is allowed for a plethora of aid vehicles to 384 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: get in. I saw live shots of the border. There's 385 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: it was one I think it's Red Crescent that's going 386 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: in there after another. Just a line of these trucks 387 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: trying to get medicine and aid into people in Gaza. 388 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: The first time in seven weeks that there's been a 389 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: ceasefire and this is to last four days. Joining me 390 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: right now is Chris Adler. And Chris, you've been covering this, 391 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: this rally near the grove today. What who's rallying and 392 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: what's what? 393 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: Why are they rallying. 394 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 10: What's the big deal, hey, Chris, So this is a 395 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 10: pro Palestinian rally, okay. And these these demonstrators gathered at 396 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 10: Pan Pacific Park here in La, right near the grove 397 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 10: around ten this morning. The crowd swelled pretty quickly and 398 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 10: once they got to a few hundred, they marched their 399 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 10: way through. 400 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 11: The grove, through the businesses of the mall. 401 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 10: And the purpose for that, Chris, was because they said 402 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 10: they want to make sure that politicians, businesses and the 403 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 10: city of La does not carry on with business as 404 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 10: usual as people are dying and being murdered, as. 405 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 11: They say in in Gaza. 406 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 10: Now they made their way through the mall, then they 407 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 10: came back to Pan Pacific Park and the crowd's dispersing 408 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 10: now and it's starting to break up. So we've been 409 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 10: here for a few hours. But you know, they say 410 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 10: they're shutting it down for Israel. They don't want to 411 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 10: allow the politicians to just carry on again with business 412 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 10: as usual while people are being slaughtered. They feel that 413 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 10: the response from Israel has been completely brutal. They said 414 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 10: it's been ten times worse than the Hamas attacks on Israel. 415 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 10: Some of them are not condoning the attacks on Israel 416 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 10: by Hamath. But you know, I did speak with one guy, 417 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 10: one Palestinian protester here, and he said, you know, Hamas 418 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 10: is not they're not a terrorist group. They're actually freedom fighters. 419 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 12: Hamas is a resistance. They're they're an ideology. You know, 420 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 12: they're not this terrorist so called terrastine. They were funded 421 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 12: by Nat and Yahood to begin with, to break up 422 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 12: the Palestinian between Hamas and the PLO. 423 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 10: So, Chris, they've you know, they've been chanting, carrying signs 424 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 10: and chanting from the river to the sea, Palestine will 425 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 10: be free. And so you know there there there were 426 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 10: some Jewish supporters out here actually in support of. 427 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 11: Of uh Of. 428 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 10: I'm sorry of Palestine. But you didn't see any flags. 429 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 10: You did not see any Israeli flags, all Palestinian flags. 430 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 11: I did talk to groups. 431 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 10: There were Mexican supporters out here, people from the Filipino community, 432 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 10: so it was from the black community. There were multiple 433 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 10: differ people out here, not just Palestinians standing with them. 434 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: Chris, I'm struck by the gentleman's quotes that he was sharing. 435 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: Their Oh they're freedom fighters, they're good guys. I think 436 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: the world saw a little bit different story. I'll a 437 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: pine on that, Chris. I'm not going to make you 438 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: a pine on that. But even if they were freedom fighters, 439 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: I don't think sneak attacks on your neighboring country is 440 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: probably the best way to go. 441 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: Certainly not very effective. So Chris did things. 442 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: You said that there were some Jewish protesters who were 443 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: joining that group. But I'm assuming that the Jewish protesters 444 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: were not saying that Hamas are swell people. But I'm assuming, 445 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: I am assuming that the Jewish protesters were saying, you know, 446 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: two state solution or free Palestine. 447 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: Enough of the violence. I'm guessing that's sort of their take. 448 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 10: Well, they did mention the two state solution, but some 449 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 10: of them said that two state solution may not actually work, 450 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 10: that historically it hasn't. 451 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 11: They said they really don't know what the solution is. 452 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 10: But the Jewish man that I spoke with today said 453 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 10: he went to Israel, he went on his birthright to Israel, 454 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 10: and he had a conversation with his dad and said, 455 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 10: you know, Dad, we're Jewish, and yes, Hamas is a 456 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 10: terrorist organization, but what we have done in retaliation is worse. 457 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 10: We've killed hundreds more than Hamas has killed. And he 458 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 10: was saying, look, nobody is right in the situation. But 459 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 10: the response that's happening in Israel right now is I'm 460 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 10: sorry in Palestine by Israel has gone too far. And 461 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 10: so that's why he said he had to take a 462 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 10: stand today and come out and stand with the Palestinians 463 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 10: because he said he hates to see children murdered. And 464 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 10: he said, what happened, you know at the festival, at 465 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 10: the Nova festival, the music festival was not right. Should 466 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 10: have never happened. But this is a decades old conflict 467 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 10: that's been going on, and he says he doesn't know 468 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 10: the solution, but he knows what's happening in Gaza right 469 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 10: now is definitely not the solution. 470 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 11: So that's why he was out here today. 471 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Chris Adler is at the rally near the grove. 472 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: Started at Pan Pacific Park and then you said it 473 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: made its way through the grove, Chris, uh, can I 474 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: guess that the businesses were really excited to have all 475 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: the extra foot traffic. 476 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, we thought you'd be out there doing your 477 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 10: Christmas shopping. Yeah, crowd, I know, I thought i'd see 478 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 10: you out there but no, you know, the businesses just 479 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 10: kind of went with it. There was a huge police 480 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 10: president presidence out here at LAPD tacticle was on alert 481 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 10: just in case. 482 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 11: It was peaceful for the most part. 483 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 10: You know, there's yeah, I didn't see anything crazy happen, 484 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 10: uh from my vantage point, but it was a pretty 485 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 10: big crowd. 486 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 8: You know. 487 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 11: They were carrying. 488 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 10: Sheets with red paint on him to signify the babies 489 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 10: that have died because of this war and the attacks, 490 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 10: and so people were carrying that and so that was 491 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 10: used as imagery and the signs and the chanting and 492 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 10: you know, so they they went through the gro the grove, 493 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 10: and then they came back to Pan Pacific Park and 494 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 10: they basically said okay, before they broke up, they said, 495 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 10: this is not the last rally. They're planning to rally 496 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 10: again tomorrow and we'll continue the rallies until there's complete 497 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 10: liberation for the Palestinian people. 498 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 11: And that's kind of where it left off. 499 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: Chris, all Right, another good reason not to have weekends 500 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: or holidays. 501 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: It gives people too much time. 502 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: If we can just eliminate all that free time, we'd 503 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: eliminate a lot of this kind of protesting going on, Chris, 504 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: great to have you on. 505 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your reaking. 506 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: All right, thanks chrazy, All right, Happy Thanksgiving weekend, I 507 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: guess or you too, you want Friday or whatever we 508 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: want to call it. 509 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: Happy whatever is happening, and now get back to work. 510 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: A protest, protest as long as we can. We're protesting 511 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: some more. Why are we doing it? Because we don't 512 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: have anywhere else to be? Stop it, Stop it. I'm 513 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: not saying that you don't have a point to make. 514 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: That's fine. Just get out of the way. 515 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: Having day. 516 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: Enough people out there losing their minds trying to shop, 517 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: and you're out there in the way. 518 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 7: Get out of the way. Get out of the way. 519 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Look, I'm gonna shift things up a little bit 520 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: here because while we have a number of people who 521 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 2: are shopping today, we do know that this is one 522 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: of the busiest travel holidays of the entire year, which 523 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: means an awful lot of you are staying in hotels 524 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: or you're staying in an airbnb, and that means that 525 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: an awful lot of you are being spied on and 526 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: you don't even know it. 527 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: I didn't even know how much of an. 528 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 2: Industry this while spying on strangers thing was until I 529 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: opened Amazon. 530 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: Thank goodness for Amazon. 531 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: All right, we'll tell you how to stay safe and 532 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 2: how to find that camera. 533 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: Next, it's Chris merril In for John and Ken. 534 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 9: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 535 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 9: AM six forty. 536 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: Chris Merril AM six forty and for John and Ken 537 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: and a quick reminded thirteenth Anuel Old KFI. 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And then of course the 553 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: A teams are going to be broadcasting live all day 554 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: from the Anaheim White House on Tuesday, that is Giving Tuesday, 555 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: So starting right at five o'clock, five am to ten pm, 556 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: pop on out and say hi, and one hundred percent 557 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: of your donation goes to Katarina's Club again pastathon dot com, 558 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: Postathon dot com. So putting the program together, and super 559 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: producer Data sends me this story about fake smoke detectors 560 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, that's kind of creepy, and I thought, oh, 561 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: this is gonna be one of those quirky one off 562 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: type stories. Hey, look out, this is something that's happening. 563 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: Just so you're aware in the same way that I 564 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: don't know about you, But I see those stories about 565 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: like credit card scanners being installed on gas pumps, right, 566 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: all right, that's something I should be aware of. All right, 567 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: thanks for the heads up on that. Probably not going 568 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: to encounter it. Sure would hate if it was me 569 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: that did it, and I feel bad for the people 570 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: it happened to but odds of it actually happened to me. 571 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: Pretty low thought the same thing about the fake smoke 572 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: detectors until I started doing some more research. Holy cow, 573 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: all right, here's your story, and then wait until you 574 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: wait until you hear what I've uncovered. 575 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 5: This is not a drill. Fake smoke detectors are popping 576 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: up in bedrooms across America, and they're not there to 577 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 5: keep you safe. 578 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: Such see, I thought, again, doesn't this sound like sensationalism? 579 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: Doesn't this sound like a clickbait news story? Like look 580 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: out everyone? Everywhere you turn, you're thinking, sure it is okay, right, 581 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: this is going to be another there's razor blades in 582 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: the candy apples. 583 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 7: This is why we can't have Halloween. 584 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: No, come on now. 585 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 8: An adrenaline filled moment. 586 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 5: Twenty three year old Dakota Williams was laying in bed 587 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: in her basement apartment when she says something suspicious caught 588 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 5: her eye. 589 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 8: I noticed that there were actually two smoke detectors in 590 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 8: the room. I started to kind of fidget with it, 591 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 8: and my stomach dropped, my heart sank immediately. I was like, 592 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 8: I just need to make a plan to get out it. 593 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 5: Wasn't a smoke detector at all? 594 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 11: Was it? 595 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 5: Inside? Was a hidden camera? 596 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: You don't say it seems like. 597 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: Any ordinary smoke detector, But take a closer look. This 598 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 5: tiny lens can secretly record your every move and even 599 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 5: transmit video live, so whoever's watching can spy on you 600 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 5: in real time. And that's exactly what Dakota says her 601 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 5: roommate was doing inside this Colorado Springs rental home. 602 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 7: Oh it was the roommate. 603 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I know. 604 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 2: I was thinking like landlord or creepy neighbor. Now it 605 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: was the roommate. The whole time. 606 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 5: This sounds like a horror movie. You find this hidden 607 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 5: camera and you think he's actually looking at you. Were 608 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 5: you terrified? 609 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 8: I definitely was. 610 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 5: But who put it there? Her first thought, maybe it 611 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 5: was the landlord's boyfriend, she says, She ran out of 612 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 5: her room, and sure enough, the guy was right there, 613 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 5: apparently aware that he had been discovered. 614 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 8: Oh, it was just really scary moment of who knows 615 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 8: what could have happened if what I did. 616 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 5: Dakota later returned with Colorado Springs police body cameras were 617 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 5: rolling as they questioned the man. 618 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh, this is gonna be good. Hey, listen, our body 619 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: cameras are rolling while we talked to you about hidden cameras. Bucko. 620 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 7: She believes that she was fired on. 621 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 5: Finally he fesces, up, I did. 622 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Buy a camera. Was it in Dakota's room? Yes, the 623 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: landlord's Well, now you're going to prison. 624 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 5: By said she had no idea what was going on 625 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: and was not charged. As for that suspect, Jamille Brown, 626 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 5: he isn't just anybody. He's a major with the United 627 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: States Space Force, the newest branch of the Armed Forces. 628 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: All right, so no, no, I'm not even gonna. 629 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 7: Make a joke where the mark. 630 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 5: He was found guilty of invasion of privacy. Dakota's mother 631 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 5: and stepfather say they were shocked to discover he was 632 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 5: in the military. Really disappointed at him, you know, especially 633 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 5: seeing his position of authorities. 634 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 6: This is someone that's in really high power, could have 635 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 6: spiraled out of control at any moment. 636 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: And again, I have to be a little bit careful 637 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: here because I feel as though the report is almost 638 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: talking about this as a one off. They started the 639 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: report by saying this is happening everywhere, but now they're 640 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: almost saying, oh, this is a one off. Can't believe 641 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: this happened. Oh, but we got the creep Now go 642 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: back to your sheltered lives. 643 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 6: But wait that situation, especially if he started to really 644 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 6: dig into what was he about to lose. 645 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 5: But you don't have to be a high ranking officer 646 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 5: to get your hands on these devices. 647 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 7: Yep. 648 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: We collected numerous reports of fake smoke detectors. This one 649 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 5: was discovered in a Massachusetts home just two weeks ago. 650 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 5: And this creepy character used a fake smoke detector to 651 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: spy on unsuspecting house guests in Nevada. 652 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 8: Changed in there, I slept in there, just everything I'll 653 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 8: never get the piece of no, I mean that he 654 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 8: doesn't have money. 655 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: Video is yeah, And then she's worried that he's just 656 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: going to release her spied videos on the internet. 657 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 11: At some point, I think he'll forever probably have them. 658 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 5: We tried to speak with Major Brown on his way 659 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 5: into court, Sir, did you spy on a young woman 660 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 5: in her bedroom so that you could have sexual gratification? 661 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: What do you have to say to your victims? 662 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: Sir? 663 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 11: The Space Force officer was sentenced to community service. 664 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 5: He's been ordered to have no contact with the victim 665 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 5: and to register as a sex offender. 666 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: All right, so how prevalent? 667 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: Even again, the story says, we even found another story 668 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: of it happening in Massachusetts just two weeks ago. 669 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: No oh no, no, no, no, here's what happened. 670 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: So Dana sends me this story, right, producer, She says 671 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: to his story and says, hey, talk about this. 672 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: This is creepy. I said, cool. 673 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: So uh, I thought, well, how much is this happening? 674 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: So I just googled smoke detector hidden camera. Oh my gosh, 675 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: don't google that. Don't you don't. If you google that, 676 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: you will be woke to the fact that it's happening. 677 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: Not only that, but the first result that came up 678 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: was on Amazon smoke Detector Hidden Camera two hundred and 679 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: fourteen results. Oh my gosh. Do you want it to 680 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: live stream? Do you want it to record on an 681 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: SD card? Do you want it to be a wall mount? 682 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: Do you want it to be a ceiling mount? Do 683 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: you want it to use. 684 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: Wi Fi? 685 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: Do you want it to be a CCTV? How do 686 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: you want it done? You want to indoor, you want 687 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: an outdoor? You want to court it. Do you want 688 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: it solar powered? Do you want it in four k 689 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: do you want it in ten ADP? How wide of 690 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 2: a viewing angle do you want? I couldn't believe how 691 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: prevalent they are. And there may be legitimate reasons to 692 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: have that, whether it's security, and especially you want to 693 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 2: put it up in your own home, so be it. 694 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: Question I have, of course is does it still work 695 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: as a as a smoke detector, because sure would like 696 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: if it did. But there are ways that you can 697 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: try to find out if you've got a smoke detector 698 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: in your home, there are ways that or in your rental, 699 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: your airbnb, your hotel room, whatever it is. The first 700 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 2: is the most obvious not is you look for a camera, 701 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: right you see a smoke detector on the wall, you 702 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: just look to make sure that it doesn't have what 703 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: to be like a little lens like you'd have on 704 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: your cell phone. The other is if you can see wires, 705 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: additional wires coming out of that thing. Is it wall mounted? 706 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: Ceiling mounted is going to be a lot more common. 707 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: Wall mounted gives a better angle for creeps, and wall 708 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: mounted smoke detector is not super common, but do be careful. 709 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: And this is something I ran into it my my 710 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: rent with my wife and I bought an Airbnb year 711 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: and a half ago, and that we had to put 712 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: in a carbon monoxide detectors and those are wall mount. 713 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 2: So just be cautious that what you're looking at is 714 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: not legitimate. I mean it might be might be legitimate. 715 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: There are ways if you're a little more techy to 716 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 2: try to track down a hidden camera. You can actually 717 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: use your phone simply by you ever have that you're 718 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: on the phone, or you've got your phone near you 719 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: and you've got the radio on and you start hearing that, Yeah, 720 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: that's just interference. So if you start talking on your 721 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: phone and you walk by the smoke detector, you might 722 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: actually pick up some interference because it's trying to use 723 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 2: some Wi Fi. There are mobile apps you can use 724 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: to see if there's a little Wi Fi devices connected 725 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: in your room. And there are actually anti spy detectors. 726 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 2: They look for radio frequency that it's unusual, and you 727 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: can get those again on Amazon as well. Isn't it wonderful? 728 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: Amazon has both the problem and the solution that you're 729 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: looking for. Yep, it's available. And keep in mind, it's 730 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: not just smoke detectors, all kinds of hidden cameras because 731 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: cameras are so small nowadays, they can get them into 732 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: all kinds of things. Foam chargers that could be pens. 733 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: I've seen things with USB. 734 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 2: Ports, you know, the USB thumb drives right, just looks 735 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: like it's a thumbdrive that somebody left on the table. 736 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's recording, you know. Just be careful. Creeps 737 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: are everywhere everywhere, and they might be high ranking military officials, 738 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: or they might just be some scumbag living next door. 739 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Just be careful, all right. 740 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: Holiday travel is up pretty high this year, however, it 741 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 2: is a real problem if you fall into. 742 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: This category of people. I'll tell you who's got it 743 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: the worst. Next. 744 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm Chris Merril. This is KFI AM six forty. We're 745 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: live everywhere on your iHeartRadio app. 746 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Show. 747 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 12: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 748 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 12: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 749 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 12: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.