1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Not to embarrass myself, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: but here we go. I mean, I'm crazy crazy allergy medicine. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: So I'm like a crackhead over here. Okay, my skins 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: crawling off my head. So if it goes down a 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: weird hallway, it's gonna happen. Mark Hoppus is here. Yeah, 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: we need more cowbell. That's great. It's some morning radio. 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: It's an embarrassing thing. Ever, have a slide whistle too? 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Probably? 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: Do you really? Don't mess with my slide? Okay, box 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: of tricks, it's so hokey. Put that crap away nice, Okay, 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: now that'll be I just I mean, it is a 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: typical hokey. I just stopped wearing bowling shirts. So Mark 13 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Hoppers of course Blink one eighty two. And I'm doing 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: my best not to fangirl in your face because we're 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: such huge fans. Oh, thank you very much. Absolutely the 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: story we all thought we knew until now we're reading 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: your book called Fahrenheit one eighty two. And wow, writing 18 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: a book is an interesting, interesting decision to make, it 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: is why why did you do this? 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: My manager asked me to Actually, my manager has been 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: saying forever that I should write a book, but I 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: didn't really think about it until I was sick. And 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: when I was sick, I was talking with a therapist 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: and she said, you should write down what's happening and 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: write like nobody's ever going to read it, and just write. 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: And I found it really therapeutic, and so afterwards I 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: was like, I enjoy this process. And then it turned 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: from writing as therapy from being sick to writing about 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: my band and my best friends and the great things 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: that we've gotten to do and how lucky we are. 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: And then that went into the band breakup and into 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: like the part about being sick, So it was it 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: was really great. 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: And speaking of I mean, you don't hold back. I 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: mean you were talking about Tom DeLong and you're interesting 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: of volatile sometimes volatile relationship with him. You just say 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: it right here. Yeah, And did he read it and go, hey, man, 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: is that really what you thought about me? 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: No, because there's nothing in the book that I had 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 3: n't talked with Tom about or said in his presence. 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: And Tom and I are in a great place, like 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: as a Bandblinquity Too is in a really awesome place 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: right now, and so I think that, and I wrote 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: the book with the intent there would be no demons 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: in it, Like I didn't want there to be bad guys. 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: And so when I was writing the book, even when 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: I was writing about fights that we've had as a band, 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: I would write about other person's point of view because 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: I'd want to be fair about it. And so that 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: was kind of healing for me as well, to write 51 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: about arguments that were in the past, like twenty years ago, 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: that I was still maybe holding on us some grudges about, 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: and then trying to write it from the other person's perspective, 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: help me deal. 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: With it now. 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: If we listen to the book on audible, right, a 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: lot of times if I'm listening to someone who does 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: their own book, they kind of go off page for 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 4: a minute and give you like a side note. 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Do you do that at all? 61 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: No? 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I stick. 63 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: I stuck very strictly to the book. 64 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: But I did write a song for the beginning in 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: the outro of it, So the audio book has like 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: a little like musical intro and a little musical outgro Oh. 67 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: That's cool, so cool. 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 5: Was there anybody that you had to reach out to 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: before the book came out and say, hey, just a 70 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 5: heads up, example, Melissa Joonhart, there's something about you in 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 5: this book. 72 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: It was it was more like my family, like talking 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: about my family stuff and things that happened in the 74 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: past like that, the things about like the band and stuff. 75 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like I needed to warn anybout you 76 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: about because it's all it's all fun and joy and 77 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: there's no like I got you or whatever. 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: It's all it's all love. So Mark Hoppus. Of course 79 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: this book is called Fairne. You talk about growing up 80 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: with your sister in California. Yeah, right, And Scotty, by 81 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: the way, Scotty b what year do we see blink 82 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: in green Day two thousand one garden? 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 6: I think, oh wow, there had to be ninety nine 84 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 6: or two thousands, like two thousand and one, I think too, 85 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 6: like the pop disaster to it? Right, Yes, yeah, and 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 6: even back then I was the oldest person in the garden. 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 6: But you know, so Scotty was listening to you talking 88 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 6: about your your your parents and how you would hear 89 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 6: them fighting in the house, and you said you actually 90 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: started crying on the way to work today. I did 91 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 6: because it resonated with me a lot, because you and 92 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 6: your sister reminded me a lot of my kids because 93 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 6: I got divorced, you know, And and I didn't realize 94 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 6: that you're the one that spilled the apple juice an 95 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 6: Adam song. 96 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: That was me. 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: I spilled the apple juice and Adams song. I was 98 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: hearing my parents fight, and I was sitting outside their 99 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: bedroom on the carpet, drinking apple juice, wondering what the 100 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: heck is going on with my family? This doesn't sound right, 101 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: this is I was awful in there. These are my 102 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: parents are supposed to love one another. And I can 103 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: hear them yelling, and I like coughed or like moved 104 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: or something. And then the yelling stopped and I heard 105 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: footsteps coming toward the door. I'm like, oh my god, 106 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: I'm maybe it's so much trouble for sitting outside the 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: door while they're arguing. And so I got up and 108 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: ran and I kicked over the apple juice in the hall, 109 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: and that was it. 110 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: That was it. You know, you also talk about I 111 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: think it's a during pandemic. You you were diagnosed with cancer. Yeah, 112 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking to stage stage four lymphoma diffuse 113 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: large B cell lymphoma type four A hell lot. That 114 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: was what I had. You had to be complicated even 115 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, but you said if I'm if I'm 116 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: not mistaken that knowing that the mortality mortality is like 117 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: number one your headlined at the point that it was 118 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: actually freeing. 119 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: It was to know that, Well you tell us, well, 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like, uh, it's like if you 121 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: found out the day that you were going to die, 122 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: you would you would know. And I felt like that 123 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: was what I was told. I was told actually that 124 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: I had a sixty percent chance of getting through cancer, uh, 125 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: never having to think about it again, which is great odds. 126 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: I had a friend who was sick at the same 127 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: time with pancreatic cancer and sadly passed away. So the 128 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 3: type of cancer that I have or had was curable, 129 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: but it was going to be really difficult. And somehow 130 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, well, I've worried so long about 131 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: you know, mortality and how things are going to end, 132 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: and thought about my own death. This is a great 133 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: morning radio. 134 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold. 135 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: On, shoe the cancer. 136 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: Yeah there the whistle cancer. 137 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: Well, so okay, please continue that. But there was a 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: freedom in that where I was like, Okay, well this 139 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: is the fight now. Yeah, and so I really crystallized 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: things and like friends and family came and really my 141 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: whole world shrunk down to like this tiny little crucible 142 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: of love and friends and family and fighting this uh, 143 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: this disease. 144 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: See this is why you need to read this, because 145 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: you go to a Blink one ay two concert and 146 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: you see the joy, the fun people just fing around 147 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: on stage and having a great time. But when you 148 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: get to know you a little more, that's incredible. Everyone 149 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: has a book in them and I wrote my book 150 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: and I learn more about me. Yeah, writing this book 151 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: talk about that? I mean, how do you see yourself differently? 152 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Post book writing? Post book writing? Honestly, write a book 153 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: about myself made me realize that it's not about me, 154 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: that it's about the people around me and the people 155 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: that I love and the band and what we've created, 156 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: uh and and that whole world. And hopefully it's made 157 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: me more humble and whatever. I think. 158 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: I've always been humble, but uh, definitely, writing a book 159 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: makes you think about what am I in the world, 160 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: and what do I have to give? 161 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: And what what do I need to do? Less of 162 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: what do I want. 163 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: To do more of Have you carried that same freeing 164 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: feeling post cancer with you or did you just go 165 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: back to like now I'm good both. 166 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's a real thing at the end where 167 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: you're like, you know, if I get over this cancer, 168 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna live every day with love, 169 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: and I try and do that. But then also like 170 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: I just get bombed on things. It's like I'm glad 171 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: that I get to take everything for granted again. 172 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, absolutely. 173 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best part of like of being cured 174 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: of cancer is like you get to go back to 175 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: complaining about stuff. 176 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: It's great. 177 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 7: Yeah. 178 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: We've had a couple of guys here who you know, 179 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: battled death and they came out on the other side 180 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: and they're just you know, back to themselves. 181 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's the best part. That's Froggy up there, Jacksonville. 182 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: He's had two brain aneurysms. 183 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, two brain aneurysms, and Nate had two strokes. 184 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, strokes exactly right, though, that's what you do. You 185 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 8: you kind of first you're like, well, I'm gonna be different, 186 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 8: and you are different, and it's like an accident on 187 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 8: the road. You put both hands on the wheel, You're 188 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 8: gonna drive really good, and then ten minutes tell you 189 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 8: the radio is blasting windows down on your haul and 190 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 8: ass again. 191 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get back to life eventually. Yep, love it. 192 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: What's that Nate scream it lout? Okay, I can't hear you. 193 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: So we have a text that just came in. Oh 194 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: my god, Mark could be a DJ. Yeah he is. 195 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Apple Music you can check it out. I am 196 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: I am a DJ. We have a show on Apple Music. 197 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: It's called after School Radio when me and my friends 198 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: do it, and it's awesome. 199 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: You you may borrow a bell if you want. Yeah, 200 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I got it, But not the way to slide whistler 201 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: for sure. 202 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 4: When you finish your book, right, you're done, you're you've 203 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: written it. You go to hand it in, you hand 204 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 4: it over to be published. Is it nerve wracking? Do 205 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: you question everything you put in there? Do you say, 206 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I should have left that out, I 207 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: shouldn't have done this, I should have done that. 208 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 209 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like recording now where it's the hardest 210 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: part is turning it in and saying this is a 211 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: complete work now. But what I did is I thought, well, 212 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: this isn't a book end, this is a milestone, Like 213 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: this is where I am today when I turned in 214 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: the book. That's how I felt that day, and and 215 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: then life goes on. So this is really just like, 216 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: that's that's where I was when I started writing the 217 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: book two years ago. And I've obviously, you know, Blink 218 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: has gone on since this and done one hundred and 219 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: twenty five shows and we're recording a new album and 220 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff. So yeah, but there's always like 221 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: a look back and I'm like, oh, I wish I 222 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: would have changed that word. I wish I would have 223 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 3: included that story or whatever. 224 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 225 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: Mark Hoppus is here his memoirs called Fahrenheit one eighty two. 226 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: It's a be able right now, listen to it. Read it. 227 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: We love listening. Yeah, hearing your voice. Did you ever 228 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: find yourself getting not choked up, but just more emotional 229 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: as you tell your story and you're vocalizing it and 230 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: you hear the Yeah. 231 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: When when I was doing the audio book and I 232 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: was talking about being sick and I was reading in 233 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: the book, I have these journals that I was keeping 234 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: while I was undergoing chemotherapy, and I was really at 235 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: my low point, and I'm reading and I'm reading thoughts 236 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: that I had for myself while I was really in 237 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 3: the dark, and that made me choke up when I 238 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: was reading the book. 239 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody, But. 240 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: Where's the whistle? 241 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: You have a very soothing voice, So I feel like 242 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: listening to your audible would be very a very soothing experience. 243 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: It's a it's a nice experience. I hope I haven't 244 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 3: listened to the audiobook because I dislike the sound of 245 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: my voice that much that you know, it's like when 246 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: you hear your voice back when you leave a message 247 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: for somebody, and you know, oh, that's what I sound like. 248 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: You have a great voice, Thank you. It's very low, 249 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: low tones. It's kind of rattling my scrot the. 250 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Kind of you made reference to the fact that other 251 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: bands thought you guys blink when I was a. 252 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: Joke right, always, always in forever, since day one. Why, 253 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: because that's what we do when Tom and I get 254 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: on stage, we try and out you one another, say 255 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: the more ridiculous thing, have the more fun, write the 256 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: better song, whatever it is. 257 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 258 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: And so for people just thought of Blink as the 259 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: joke band because we go on stage, and also, you know, 260 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: we had funny videos and What's My Age Again is 261 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: kind of a joke premise for a song. But we 262 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: also had songs like Adam's song and really heartfelt things 263 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: and Tom's always written really heartfelt lyrics. And so I 264 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: think the people that grew up listening to Blink knew 265 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: that there was a duality to our band that we 266 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: love to have fun, but we also try and write 267 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: the best songs we can and try and write the 268 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: best music that we can. 269 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: So you and Tom and Travil, I mean the relationship 270 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: basically we have the same thing. I mean, able to 271 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: come in every day. We have to be on stage 272 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: whether we like it or not. People paid for the tickets. 273 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: I guess this is a free show, but paid with 274 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: their time and the and there. You know, the relationship 275 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: you had with Tom though, was it definitely had its 276 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: peaks and valleys. Yeah, and talk about that, talk about 277 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: what it was like, I mean a partner. 278 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: Right while I met Tom, you know, I had just 279 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: graduated high school and was in college and Tom was 280 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: graduating high school at the time. And if you think 281 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: about it, the people that you were friends with in 282 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: high school, Like we are grown men with families and 283 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: children of our own. Now, what friends that you had 284 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: in high school are you still friends with today? That 285 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: you've worked with and lived with and toured in a 286 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: van and slept on people's floors and everything else, and 287 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: just humans going through life. You fall in and out 288 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: of stuff. So, you know, Tom and I were at 289 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: different points in our lives while we were in the 290 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: same band together, and you know, Tom wanted to stay 291 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: home and I wanted to go on tour, and Travis 292 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: wanted to go on tour, and we were having kids 293 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: a different point, and there's like a tear in that. 294 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: There's like a difference when you start and you're all 295 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: in a van together, there's a unity of purpose. All 296 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: we want to do is play shows, be in this van, 297 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: be in this band, and go and have fun. But 298 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: then you get married, or then you have relationship, then 299 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: you have kids, and you have mortgages, and you have 300 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: all this other stuff pulling your time away. And I 301 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: think that the balance that each of us had in 302 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: our lives was just different at different times. And you're talking. 303 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: One of the chapters is about how you and Tom 304 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: actually you're lane, You were both in at one point 305 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: started to separate in different lines, and you were a 306 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: little confused. He wanted to go to another project, other music, 307 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: and you just weren't communicating at all. 308 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: Did you think it was over at that point? 309 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 8: Oh? 310 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are several times. Yeah, there were several. 311 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: Times when I thought like, I'm not going to talk 312 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: with Tom again, and you know, I don't even speak 313 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: to him. You didn't speak like I mean when you know, 314 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: when Tom left the band the first time, we didn't 315 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: speak for like five years, and same thing the second time. 316 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: So there were numbers of years where I just wouldn't 317 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: even talk with Tom and there was so much acrimony 318 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: on both sides. But then the cool thing is that 319 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: when we got back together both times, you know, the 320 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: first time was after Travis had his plane crash, and 321 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: the second time was after I was sick with cancer. 322 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: That Tom calls up and it's like none of the 323 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: bad things even happened at all. It was like you 324 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: just snapped back into best friend mode. And that's how 325 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: Tom has been like ever since whatever it was four 326 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: years ago when Tom texted me out of the blue 327 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: and said, Hey, I'm directing this music video for Angels 328 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: and airwaves, and he sent me a photo of him 329 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: at a music video shoot that he was directing, and 330 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: of course it's him in front of a bunch of 331 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: models in their underwear, of course, and I reply, haha, 332 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: that's awesome. 333 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 7: Man. 334 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, I have came and I start 335 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: chemotherapy and that was the first real text that I 336 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: had exchanged with Tom in a number of years. And 337 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: immediately my phone rings and it's Tom, and I pick 338 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: up the phone and say hello, and he says how 339 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: are you? And so the past whatever four years just 340 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: disappeared and it was just back to square one, back 341 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: to friends. 342 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: Wow, and do you think like now, Like you know, 343 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: when you guys first started, it was like the end 344 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: all be all that was you had to be successful, 345 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: you wanted to make the money. You guys are in 346 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: such a different place right now that it's got to 347 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: be more fun. 348 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: It is fun. 349 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: And that was the reason that we got blink Oninity 350 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: two back together as the three of us is because 351 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: that's what's fun. And we sat down in early twenty 352 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: twenty two and we were like, Okay, what do we 353 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: need for Blankwinity two to be awesome and be what 354 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: we wanted to be because Blinkwinity two is the three 355 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: of us, and you know, thank God for Mattskiba when 356 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: he came in, and thank God for Scott Rainer when 357 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: he came in. But the soul of Blanquinity two is Travis, 358 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: Tom and me, and so we sat down and we're like, 359 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: we just want to do fun stuff. 360 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: We want to be creative. 361 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: We want to keep writing new songs and touring and 362 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: playing music for people and having a great time. And 363 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: so we're like, we're not going to do anything that 364 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: we don't want to do, and we've kind of stuck 365 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: to that and served as well. 366 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Was there anything that didn't make the book? I actually 367 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: Nate said to you were telling a story about Detroit. 368 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Story and he's asked that. I said, tell me the story. 369 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: You said, no, let Mark tell the story. 370 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean it was just this was, you know whatever, 371 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: probably almost twenty years ago, we were sitting backstage in 372 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: Detroit and we were hanging out, the three of us 373 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: in a dressing room, just backstage, doing nothing. And we've 374 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: been there for like an hour after soundcheck, and all 375 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: of a sudden, out of the bathroom comes these two 376 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: guys probably in their early twenties, very late teens, and 377 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: they look at us and they go, hey, what's up, guys, 378 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: and they just walk out. We're like, what the hell 379 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: They've been in that bathroom the whole time. So we 380 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: go into the bathroom. Those guys had snuck into the 381 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: venue and we're climbing through the ceiling like in breakfast 382 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: club and climbing over the ceiling tiles, and the ceiling 383 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: tiles had given way and they'd fallen through the ceiling 384 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: onto the stall of the bathroom underneath them, broken the 385 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: door off the stall, broken the toilet off the wall, 386 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: and then just sat there in fear, not knowing what 387 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: to do, and finally gave up and they walked out. 388 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: Security was grabbing them and kicking them out. We're like, 389 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: no way, those guys are sitting side of stage for 390 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: the whole show. 391 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the energy you want, right next to the stage. Yeah. 392 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: I love that crazy stuff on the road. I mean, 393 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure that the list is so long there's no 394 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: way to even remember most of it. But we used 395 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: to call our tour manager. 396 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: We used to call our tour manager in the middle 397 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: of the night at a hotel and say, this is 398 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: the front desk and we have an urgent fat for 399 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: you down here. 400 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: We need you to come down right now. It's three 401 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. 402 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: And then we called down to the front desk and say, 403 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: this is Blquidy two is true manager, I need a fax. 404 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: I'm expecting what I'm coming down there, and if you 405 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: don't have her for me, I'm gonna kick your ass. 406 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: And so our tour manager would go downstairs and say 407 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: do you have a fax for me? 408 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: And the person working the desk we I'm so sorry, sir, 409 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: we don't have a fax for you. I don't know 410 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: what to tell you, because like, well, why'd you call 411 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: me up and wake me? I didn't call you and 412 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: wake you up? 413 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 5: Did you guys have universal rules for the tour bus, 414 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 5: like no crapping when we're. 415 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: All on here? 416 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: Uh no, we I mean when we first started off, 417 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: when we first had a bus, Scott and I still 418 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: smoked cigarettes, and we would, like everybody except for Tom 419 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: basically smoked on our crew and it was just the dirtiest, 420 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: smelliest awful bus. Like imagine that stank that just like 421 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: dank smoke for uh so awful. 422 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: Didn't you guys all have the same stalker. 423 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: At one point we did. 424 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: There was a stalker in San Diego that my wife 425 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: kept seeing around town. And I was recording. We were 426 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: in the studio and she called up and said that 427 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: lady who I see around town is out in front 428 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: of our house right now, and so she called the police, 429 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: and the police came, and the lady took off and 430 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: they kid. The police came back and they said, hey, 431 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: we can't arrest this lady because she hasn't do anything illegal. 432 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: But she has a notebook with pictures of your house 433 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: from six months ago, like license plate numbers written down, 434 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: times of when like lights would come on and off 435 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: in your house, or you know, pictures of mom's wife 436 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: at the grocery store, like really strange stuff we're see 437 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: today downstairs. 438 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't know one of those bring. 439 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but that was that was really unsettling. And 440 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: uh it was after that that, you know, we moved 441 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: into a gated community and I was like, WHOA, being 442 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: famous is weird things? 443 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 5: Because you know, now we we read and hear so 444 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: many things about people being on stage and someone launching 445 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 5: a bottle at them. Has touring changed for you guys 446 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: in that way? 447 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 7: At all? 448 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 5: Or is it just still kind of the same. 449 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: I mean, thank god there's a lot less shoes being 450 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: thrown on stage, because I never under like coming out 451 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: of the punk rock community, like uh, every show there'd 452 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: be shoes and T shirts and like a belt and 453 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: like everyone's trash all thrown up on stage. I'm like, 454 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: what about Like, like, how do you walk home with 455 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: no shoes? How do you leave a show with no shoes? 456 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Would they throw? 457 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: Both are just one because I have just one shoe. 458 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: Yeah that's weird. 459 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: Phones and camera and lots of bras, lots of underwear 460 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 3: and but bras are expensive. I've had to buy my 461 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: wife bras before. I'm like, why this is you know whatever, 462 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: there's a lot of money. 463 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 464 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: So looking back, I mean, did you guys first start touring? 465 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean it started touring really in ninety five was 466 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: like our first tour. Wow, So look at that and 467 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: all these years that have passed. I mean, did it 468 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: go fast or it's insane? I still remember the smell 469 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: of our van. It was not good. It doesn't sound 470 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: yeah good at it wasn't. 471 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: It was like fast food trash, that smell of like 472 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: stale French fries. 473 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: And Mexican food and this, like, uh, do you miss that? Yeah? 474 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah, because something tells me, however, you're 475 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: transporting yourselves around these days, it smells much better. 476 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 3: Oh it does. But there's nothing like the joy of 477 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: just hitting it. Because back then there were no cell phones, 478 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: there was no internet, there was no way to get 479 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: a hold of us. When we left to go on tour, 480 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: we had literally a Thomas Guide and a staple together 481 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: thing like this, just a bunch of papers with like 482 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: this is the venue address, this is what time you 483 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: need to be there, and you're getting paid, getting paid 484 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: fifty dollars wow. And then nobody could get a hold 485 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: of us. So if I had to call home, I 486 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: had to call home, collect from a payphone and hope 487 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: my mom was home to pick up the phone and 488 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: how's everything? 489 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: Wow? So how did your mom and your father still alive? Yeah? 490 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: So how did they respond to your success in the band? 491 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: Did they get it? Ever? 492 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 3: They did get it. My mom was very supportive early on. 493 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: My dad was always a little more practical. My dad 494 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: didn't really understand that Blanknity two is successful until we 495 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: played the Tonight Show with Jay Leno and Richard Simmons 496 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: was one of the guests. Oh yeah, this is one 497 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: of the chapters I pulled aside. Yeah, that's the picture 498 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 3: right there. So we were all hanging out in the 499 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 3: green room before like after sound check, before we played, 500 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 3: and Richard Simmons, the workout guru, comes into our room. 501 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: Just burst open the door, blank one eighty two, comes in, 502 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: gives me a kiss, gives Tom a kiss, Travis a kiss, 503 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: huge personality, and I'm talking. And so we had invited 504 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: all of our families to the show and I'm not 505 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: seeing Richard Simmons or workout tips. And he said, oh, 506 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 3: I don't need to give you tips. I'm old enough 507 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: to be your dad. And my dad goes, actually, I'm 508 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: his dad, And Richard Simmons turns around and goes dad 509 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: and gives my dad and he's kiss on the cheek 510 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 3: and rich and my dad was like, well, if Richard 511 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: Simmons knows who my son's band is, then they must 512 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 3: be successful. And that was that was really the moment. 513 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: Wow, it took Richard Simmons to like pound it home. Yeah, 514 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: I feel like that me. 515 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 4: It was Donnie Osmond like, my mom listens to our show, 516 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: but when I put Donnie Osmond on the phone with 517 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: my mom. 518 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: That's when my mom's like, yeah, you got a cool job. 519 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: That's nice. 520 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 5: I'm still waiting on that moment. 521 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what did you learn about yourself? Writ in 522 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: this book? When I learned about myself? That's the first 523 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: time I've been asked that. I don't know that. I 524 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: learned a whole lot of them. 525 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: Like I said, it's it's not about me that I 526 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: love my friends and family, I love my band, and 527 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: that's what's really important to me. It really crystallized what's 528 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: important to me in this world, and it's actually a 529 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: lot smaller than I thought that it was. It's not stuff. 530 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I like things, Uh, it's not any of that. 531 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: But it's like the joy of being on stage or 532 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 3: writing a song, or being with my family and my friends. 533 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: That's it. That's really all that I learned. 534 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: Can I ask a question that has nothing to do 535 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 4: with the book, How what are you using to keep 536 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 4: your hair looking like that? 537 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: I'm just glad to have my hair back at all. 538 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: So yes, it does well, there's product in it right now, 539 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: but not a lot literally, Like my haircut now is 540 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: such that like I can wake up in the morning 541 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: and just kind of like wash it off, and it's 542 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: just this big thing. 543 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: So I have to kind of just shape in into something. 544 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: Okay. So that's not a gorilla snot or anything. 545 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: It's not anything cool like that. Yeah. Yeah, So my 546 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: husband had cancer as well, and so sorry chemotherapy the 547 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: whole thing, lost his hair, hated life. Yeah. He talked 548 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: about what it was like going through chemotherapy and he 549 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: said it's like worms or crawling around in your veins. Yeah. Yeah. 550 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: One day he called me and I don't know if 551 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: you can relate, you probably can. He said, I'm standing 552 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: outside the door. I don't want to walk in. I 553 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: can't do this today. I can't. And I said to him, 554 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: I said, Alex, your decision. You know, it's your decision. 555 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: You can walk through that door and do what you 556 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: need to do or not, you know, And it's a 557 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: gift you have to give yourself. 558 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 9: And it. 559 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: Really just messes with your head, your psyche, everything is 560 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: messed with when you go through that. But you come out, 561 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: you come out the other side and you are a 562 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: different person. Yeah. 563 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 3: When after my first so I had to undergo six 564 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: rounds of chemotherapy three weeks apart and after the first 565 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: round of chemotherapy, when I was at my natier, which 566 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 3: is like the worst part of the low point, when 567 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: the chemototherapy drugs have burned out so much of your 568 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: so much of your cells and everything that there was 569 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: a point where I was sitting at the breakfast table 570 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: with my wife and I looked at her and I said, 571 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: I don't think I can do this. I don't know 572 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: that I can go through with this. And she looked 573 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: at me and she said, so, what does that mean? 574 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: Are you going to kill yourself? And it sounds cruel 575 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: to say it aloud, but it was really helpful to 576 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 3: me because I was like, wait, what am I saying here? 577 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 3: Am I just going to give up? Am I just 578 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: gonna let this take me? And so at that point 579 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm not going to give up, 580 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: not at all. And then so I'm assuming it's the 581 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: same thing as your husband where they're standing outside and 582 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: they're like, I don't know if I can do this, 583 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 3: and there's a point where you're like, no, I have 584 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: to do this, not for me, but because I love 585 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: the people around me so much that I can't let 586 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: them down. 587 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: Well, look, congratulations on getting this book out, and how 588 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: many people have texted and say I'm buying the book. 589 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: That's awesome. We'll take a percentage of that. You choke 590 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: me up. Thank you, Mark Hoppus. Of course, Fahrenheit W two. 591 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: We we love everything you've brought to us over the years. 592 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: I love that you're still bringing it. Thank you. It's 593 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: all new and fresh and fun. Thank you. That's all 594 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: that I want to do is keep creating and keep 595 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: doing stuff that I love. I'm so glad, Scary push 596 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: the button, push the button, Scary, thanks for coming in today. 597 00:24:52,320 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: Absolutely one tops again Fahrenheit by seventeen copies today. 598 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 9: I took her out. It was a Friday night. I 599 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 9: woke alone to get the feeling right, and we started 600 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 9: making out and she took up my bos. But then 601 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 9: I turned on the TV and that's a. 602 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: South a time. She walked away from me. Nobody thought 603 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: she went. 604 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 7: To twining the more. 605 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: He's my TV shows? What the horis ef? I say 606 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: a ship at ranage? 607 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: What's my age? 608 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 7: Can? 609 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: What's my age? 610 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 6: A Cain? 611 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 9: Later on, on the drive home, I called her mom, 612 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 9: I'm from a K phone and I said I was 613 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 9: the Tops and your husband's in jail. The staylos down 614 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 9: on side of me. 615 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: And that's a southing. Time I met, you're gonna funny. 616 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: Nobody thought she went a twin anything And. 617 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: I said, it's no gay concut. 618 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: What's the girl's candor? 619 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 7: I did? 620 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: Let me say ship that mar age? What's my age? 621 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 7: A pain? 622 00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: What's my age? 623 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 7: And and and that's about the time you want away 624 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 7: from me about it. 625 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: Like you wake gas way anything and you see a 626 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: lot of joy pressure. 627 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I was wrong with me my first second year? 628 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 7: That age? 629 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 5: That's about the. 630 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Toun and should have done the thing. 631 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 7: But what she take the soul to see and say, 632 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 7: here's a deparm. 633 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: Why would she wished out. 634 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 7: Of your neighborhood? 635 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 6: Like age? 636 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 7: What's my age? 637 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 5: You came? 638 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 7: What's my age? 639 00:26:52,359 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: Can hello? 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