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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to One Bill's Live. Sorry for that

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Speaker 1: fun with one of the transformers down the street. So

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Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday. Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 1: as per usual as we are in wild Card playoff week,

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Speaker 1: and there was already some official news coming out of

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Speaker 1: is now official. Head coach Mike Tomlin to the Steelers

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Speaker 1: has officially ruled TJ. Watt out for a Sunday's game

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Speaker 1: against the Bills at one o'clock. He suffered a knee

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Speaker 1: injury sprained mcl grade two in last week's game against

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Speaker 1: this week's game. So that is nineteen sacks off the

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Speaker 1: board for the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's big. So I work

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Speaker 1: with Brownie every day. I can always tell when something

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Speaker 2: The first thing out of the box is the thing

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Speaker 2: he thinks is the biggest thing about this game, and

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Speaker 2: I agree with him today. That's big. TJ. Watt not

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Speaker 2: playing in this game really hurts the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: The defensive player of the year.

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Speaker 2: There's no two ways about it. That guy's a wrecker,

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Speaker 2: a game wrecker. Let me say this, it's one thing

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers to play Mason Rudolph instead of Canny Pickett.

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody coming off the bench for TJ. Watt. That's

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Speaker 2: even in his stratosphere. This guy's at alone at that.

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Speaker 2: So that's big for the Steelers. We've got. Now we're

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Speaker 2: starting to think, okay, wait a minute. Now, it's almost

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Speaker 2: the point where this it can't be an easy game.

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Speaker 2: It's never going to be an easy game, but oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, it certainly feels like it got a lot

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Speaker 2: different with TJ. Watt getting sidelined. That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: They've got to be like, yeah, and sometimes you catch

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Speaker 1: those breaks and it helps you advance in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the Bills, you know, and I don't

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Speaker 1: even think they're fans, would wish any ill will to

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Speaker 1: any player. You don't want to see players get hurt,

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Speaker 1: But not seeing TJ. Watt breathing down Josh Allen's neck

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Speaker 1: something that Bills fans will consider a gift this week.

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Speaker 1: So Bills are fortunate, it's unfortunate for the Steelers. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: This week's wild Card game, incidentally against the Steelers, is

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Speaker 1: presented by this year's Playoff presenting sponsor Northtown Automotive Companies,

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Speaker 1: the official automotive dealer of the Buffalo Bills. We are

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Speaker 1: awaiting further clarification on the injuries that the Bills sustained

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Speaker 1: in Sunday's win over the Dolphins, namely Gabe Davis, Rasul Douglas,

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Speaker 1: Tyrel Dodson, Ty Johnson, and safety Tailor Rapp who got

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Speaker 1: injured on the interception right at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: All of those players dealing with injuries. Head coach Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: when he addressed the media Monday afternoon, said, you know,

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Speaker 1: So head coach Sean McDermot said he would have more

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Speaker 1: information for everybody when he addresses the media again on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so we'll probably get the low down on the severity

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Speaker 1: that for you here on One Bill's Live. The Wednesday

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Speaker 2: Is it it's a little it was a little amazing

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Speaker 2: And it was, and the Bills like got better. Those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Baile inspector came in. He was a huge force

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Speaker 1: in his absence. We should go around the NFL as well,

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Speaker 1: which is presented by Kaleida Health, the official healthcare system

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. And there is news on the

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Speaker 1: coaching front. We had black Monday. It's black Tuesday for

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Speaker 1: Titans head coach Mike Vrabel. He was fired today about

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Speaker 1: an hour ago. He led the Titans to the the

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Speaker 2: That's when Mahomes and Kelsey took over the game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, which they had done for the most most of

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Speaker 1: After they traded away AJ Brown, they tried to replace

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Speaker 1: him with Traylon Burks, and let's be honest, that did

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Speaker 2: They were six and eleven this year.

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Speaker 1: And they were playing catch up, you know, the whole season.

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Speaker 1: But this is a guy who is one of the

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Speaker 2: The guy's end of game time management is spot on.

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Speaker 1: He's really good at that. It's one of his greatest assets.

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Speaker 2: And he also has some does the things that he's

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Speaker 2: the guy that forced the Patriots into timeouts. And then

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he did it. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: can't remember exactly how it worked, it was it was brilliant.

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Speaker 2: It was brilliant. He kept taking a p I can't

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Speaker 1: Now, of course the concern here, and this was the

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Speaker 1: your next new England Patriots head coach. That that just

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Speaker 1: made sense to me. So yeah, yes, Now the first

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Speaker 1: first could happen pretty quickly now that is available.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you think Frable's gonna be out of

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Speaker 2: he played for Bill Belichick. Yeah, and Robert Robert Kraft.

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Speaker 1: Although that's shaping up to be a Jim Harbaugh destination,

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I think about that.

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Speaker 1: That's a heck of an AFC West coaching Andy Reid

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Speaker 2: He may. He may keep that job. The players love him,

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Speaker 2: They they want him. I don't know if they played

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they did. I think they did. They

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, okay, but so would they have hated

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, let's face it. They McDaniels gets fired,

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Speaker 2: Like what after? When was it?

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Speaker 1: It was pretty early. It was like, was it early seven?

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Speaker 2: So they got after the after the Detroit game when

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Speaker 1: They're they're playing with Aidan O'Connell at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: By Raiders standards. I guess yeah, I don't know. We'll see, uh.

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Speaker 1: I think he sat down and did not play last week,

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Speaker 1: but he said it is still an option for Peterson

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Speaker 1: So I think if Fitzpatrick is up. Peterson probably goes

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Speaker 1: back to corner this week, which makes sense. You've went

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph is in fact going to start at QUARTERBA week,

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Speaker 1: which was figured and anticipated.

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Speaker 2: You're going back to the Raiders for just a moment.

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Speaker 2: You think about this. Their last four games, they were

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Speaker 1: We's the AFC West. They swept the division and after

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Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce obviously. So yeah, I don't know. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if Mark Davis is swayed by that or if he

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Speaker 1: wants to go big game hunting, right you know, because

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Speaker 1: right now he's paying a staff to not work for him,

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Speaker 1: head coaching carousel is a spinning Yeah it is. So's

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Speaker 1: another job just opened up Tennessee, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm shocked.

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised, but got.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a handful of guys. There's more than that.

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Speaker 2: There's more than a handful. But there's some really good

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Speaker 1: Eight h three five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: And we are taking your phone calls here, so hop on,

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Speaker 1: And leading us off today is DJ in Connecticut. What

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Speaker 5: Hi, guys, great stuff always. I think that they'll just

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Speaker 7: Next year's are here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you. I feel you on that Aeron,

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Speaker 2: It's hard to think about a playoff game as a

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Speaker 1: share it. I don't have it. I've never been in

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Speaker 1: the NFL on a field when it counts. But I

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Speaker 1: will say this, with all that this team has been

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Speaker 1: through the better part of the last two calendar years,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way in hell this is

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Speaker 1: a trap game, no way, Jose. There's just there's too

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Speaker 1: much at stake for them to dismiss a playoff opponent,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the Pitch Steelers or the fourteen Holy Helpers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not looking past anybody, right, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, no way, I would you could

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Speaker 1: knock me over with a feather if that happens with

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Speaker 1: this football team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, that doesn't mean they're gonna come out and

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Speaker 2: go like gangbusters. I mean this team is still this team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes they struggle to get out of the box,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes you get a bad call or a drop

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Speaker 2: pass or whatever. You know, they come out and they

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Speaker 2: drop three straight third down passes on the first three possessions.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that two weeks. Sometimes that happens, but it

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Speaker 2: does mean What it does mean, in my opinion, is

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Speaker 2: that they're gonna they're gonna buckle up and prepare like

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Speaker 2: like it's a game that they you know, they need

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Speaker 2: to play well in. I don't think there's gonna They're

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Speaker 2: not gonna think the Steelers are Patsy's And I know

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Speaker 2: Sean mcdermot's probably over there going, you know what, these

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Speaker 2: guys came in here in the preseason and lumped us up.

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Speaker 2: I know it's the preseason, but he'll use it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: every little bit helps well.

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Speaker 1: And not only that, I think it's pretty well documented

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Speaker 1: that Tom Land's teams rarely rarely lay an egg, and

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Speaker 1: even if they don't measure up man to man matchup wise,

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Speaker 1: they're going to fight and strain and make you earn it.

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Speaker 1: You have to grind out a victory more often than

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Speaker 1: not against the Steelers, even though this is a team

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Speaker 1: through most of their season in twenty twenty three has

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Speaker 1: had a monumental problem scoring points. Mason Rudolph has been

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Speaker 1: a nice spark for them. They have scored more points

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks, and even if they don't, that

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Speaker 1: defense is going to make you grind out yards strain

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Speaker 1: for points. And I think the game is probably going

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Speaker 1: to be closer than most people believe. Maybe the Bills

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Speaker 1: turn back into the juggernaut. But show me evidence of

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Speaker 1: that outside of the Dallas game. The last five weeks,

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Speaker 1: show me evidence of that, because it's been the defense

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Speaker 1: that has been closing out games for the Bills. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no debate about that, right. I mean, think about

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Speaker 1: how much they've had to close this They've had to

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Speaker 1: close out Week six against the Giants, Week eight against Tampa,

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Speaker 1: Week fourteen at Kansas City, Week sixteen at LA and

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Speaker 1: Week eighteen against Miami. The defense had to close it out. Look,

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Speaker 1: I love Josh Allen this offense as much as anybody else,

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Speaker 1: but the facts are the facts. The defense has been

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Speaker 1: closing out games. So you got a team that strains

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Speaker 1: and claws and has a lot of grit like Tomlin's team,

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna make it easy.

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Speaker 2: And actually that's something that the Bills of defense struggled

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Speaker 2: with early in the season. You know, they let they

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Speaker 2: let a couple of teams off the hook early in

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Speaker 2: the season, you know, when they couldn't close out games,

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Speaker 2: and you know that was kind of what was going

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Speaker 2: on the Jet they couldn't get we couldn't get ahead

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Speaker 2: of the Jets, but the Jacksonville game worse was a struggle.

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Speaker 2: There was a couple of other game the Patriots loss,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't you know, Mac Jones goes the distance in

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Speaker 2: the last two minutes to take the lead and win

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Speaker 2: that game. Eighteen the Bills, the Bengals game, the Broncos game. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I mean they couldn't stop the Broncos from getting down

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Speaker 2: into field goal range with the last play. It's something

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Speaker 2: they struggled with earlier and now not so much. They're

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Speaker 2: kind of getting a handle on it of games, and

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Speaker 2: it couldn't come at a better time.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us, because when we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: going to break down that last game against the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: and what the offense might be looking to clean up

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Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs. We'll do that with NFL Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Kurt Warner, who joins us next here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and please to be joined now. Hall of Fame quarterback

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Speaker 1: and NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner. Kurt, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time here. You probably know why we've got John.

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Speaker 1: We enjoyed your breakdown of the Bills offense here in

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Speaker 1: the wake of their performance against the Dolphins. It was

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Speaker 1: good enough to get the victory, but like it is

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Speaker 1: almost any week, they're probably looking to clean some clean

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Speaker 1: some things up on that side of the ball going

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Speaker 1: into this playoff matchup with the Steelers. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: just kind of lay out for us some of what

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Speaker 1: you put out there as you were dissecting Buffalo's offense

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Speaker 1: here and where they might be a little bit better

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Speaker 1: this week or want to be.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing for me

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Speaker 8: is we all know how good Josh Allen is and

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Speaker 8: all the things that he's capable of doing. I continue

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Speaker 8: to make the contention that he's best when he plays

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Speaker 8: on schedule and in the pocket. I've seen it all

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Speaker 8: year long. Is that when he's comfortable inside the pocket

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Speaker 8: and he's confident in what he seeing, he's as good

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Speaker 8: as anybody in the National Football League. And it shows

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Speaker 8: up over and over and over again. You know, I

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Speaker 8: went back before the game this past weekend against Miami

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Speaker 8: and watched his first game against Miami, and I think

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Speaker 8: there was only like five plays in which he moved

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Speaker 8: out of the pocket in that game, and a couple

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Speaker 8: of them were just completely by necessity. He looked down

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Speaker 8: the field and he was trying to make that play

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Speaker 8: and then then he went and created. And that, to me,

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Speaker 8: I think is where this team really needs to continue

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Speaker 8: to focus. Is you know, when Josh does that, he

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Speaker 8: is he is so good, and he's done it really

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Speaker 8: really well this year.

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Speaker 3: But then there's times when I feel like he plays

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Speaker 3: too fast.

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Speaker 8: There's certain situational, uh you know, football moments in a

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Speaker 8: game where it's almost as if I'm going to give

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Speaker 8: a cursory glance to the play and then I'm going

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Speaker 8: to go be Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: And we all know that that can that could.

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Speaker 8: Be special and it can be a huge positive for

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Speaker 8: the team, but it can also lead to some negative plays,

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Speaker 8: or it can lead to some missed opportunities that are

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Speaker 8: easier and right in front of them.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why you see at times.

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Speaker 8: You know, even though they've they've gone on a run

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Speaker 8: and won a lot of games, they're not always clean,

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Speaker 8: and they're not always putting up you know, the big

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Speaker 8: points that we saw maybe early in the year and

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Speaker 8: we've seen in the past, because it's just it's kind

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Speaker 8: of choppy all over the place. And so I think

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Speaker 8: it starts with Josh just settling in and being confident

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Speaker 8: in knowing that he can be great without having to

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Speaker 8: run around and run through people and over people and

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Speaker 8: make the crazy pros. He could be great just playing

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Speaker 8: inside the pocket because he has that ability and has

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Speaker 8: shown that ability, and so I think that's where it starts.

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Speaker 8: And then, you know, the other issue that I was

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Speaker 8: pointing out was just you know, being able.

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Speaker 3: To you know, to handle pressure better than you know

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Speaker 3: they did the other day and I think better than

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Speaker 3: they've done at times this year.

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Speaker 8: And that, you know, it's both sometimes with Josh, you know, understanding, Okay,

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Speaker 8: they bring pressure, I don't have to beat it by

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Speaker 8: making a play. I can beat it by getting the

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Speaker 8: ball out of my hands. And also with Joe Brady

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Speaker 8: giving Josh some quick answers on every single play or

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Speaker 8: some adjustments on every play, so when somebody brings that pressure,

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Speaker 8: it's not run around and have to throw the ball

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Speaker 8: up with guys hanging all over me. It's hey, get

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Speaker 8: it out to one of my playmakers, because we've got

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Speaker 8: really good playmakers out there.

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Speaker 3: Get into their hands and let them do something. You know,

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Speaker 3: for the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So give us an idea too, because as you as

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Speaker 2: you know this, the league revolves around and the offense

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Speaker 2: revolves around the quarterback. Give us an idea of how

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Speaker 2: the when the quarterback like Josh leaves a pocket too

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Speaker 2: earlier makes h doesn't want to take the easy throw

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Speaker 2: right now, he wants to try and hold it and

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Speaker 2: make a bigger play down the field. Give us an

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Speaker 2: idea the best way for a coaching staff to handle

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Speaker 2: the criticism of that for the quarterback. You know, you

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Speaker 2: got to have a conversation about it. Right you're watching

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Speaker 2: the film, it happens you say, hey, why didn't you

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Speaker 2: take you know, why this? Why that? Give us an insight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you were, you were in those rooms, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you you took your share of you know,

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Speaker 2: talking to is about why you're not doing the right

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Speaker 2: thing or what you know. Give us some insight as

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Speaker 2: to how those conversations go.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think the first part of the conversation

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Speaker 8: and what you always want from your quarterback when you're

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Speaker 8: a coach is answer the why for me. Okay, so

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Speaker 8: tell me why you took off so quickly. Tell me

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Speaker 8: why you know you didn't give this a chance because

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Speaker 8: it was the primary part of the play. And I

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Speaker 8: think that's where it starts, is understanding the why, you know,

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Speaker 8: because you always want your quarterback to be able to

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Speaker 8: have a reason, a method to the madness on why

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Speaker 8: they're doing stuff. And you know, and I completely understand

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Speaker 8: in critical situations, a Josh has been really good.

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Speaker 3: And then when you get down into the red zone.

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Speaker 8: You know, we often say that, you know, a lot

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Speaker 8: of times it's it's players over plays that it's hard

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Speaker 8: to always design the perfect play down in the red

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Speaker 8: zone when windows get tighter and teams do some different things.

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Speaker 8: But you still have to trust what's in front of

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Speaker 8: you because I will always make the argument, you know,

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Speaker 8: and again, Josh Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, those special players

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Speaker 8: can maybe live in that, you know, ad lib off

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Speaker 8: schedule world more than other guys can. But I also

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Speaker 8: believe that what you have to do to win against

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Speaker 8: the best teams in the league is you have to

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Speaker 8: make the layups.

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Speaker 3: You have to make the plays that are in front

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Speaker 3: of you.

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Speaker 8: And so when I, you know, did the breakdown the

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Speaker 8: other day, you know what happened was there was a

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Speaker 8: quick play to the flat, you know, from the five

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Speaker 8: yard line on their first drive. That is a walk

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Speaker 8: in touchdown. Now he doesn't take it, and he gets

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Speaker 8: through things a little bit faster and misses.

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Speaker 3: But then ultimately what happens.

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Speaker 8: On that drive is that leads to a play where

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Speaker 8: Miami brings pressure, they don't have a quick answer, and

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Speaker 8: it becomes of the one of the interceptions in the

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Speaker 8: end zone. And so that's kind of how I look

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Speaker 8: at it is that, you know, it's not always sexy

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Speaker 8: to take the quick flat, but that that's working for you,

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Speaker 8: take the layup, and then make the special plays when

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Speaker 8: you have to. The other interception was on a fourth

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Speaker 8: down and they had a little rub play design and

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Speaker 8: they had their initial guy open.

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Speaker 3: Josh just got off of it a little bit quick, getting.

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Speaker 8: Impatient, going, oh, I don't know if it's going to

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Speaker 8: be open. Let me go create and do what I do.

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Speaker 8: And it led to the other interception of that long

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Speaker 8: interception where it would have been an easy first down

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Speaker 8: within the structure of the play, and so that becomes

652
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Speaker 8: the conversation, and the balance is I need you to

653
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Speaker 8: allow the play to work for you. I need you to,

654
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Speaker 8: you know, to get back and make these layups, these

655
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Speaker 8: easy throws that are in front of you. You make those,

656
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Speaker 8: and then you give us three or four of those

657
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Speaker 8: special plays a game, and we're going to win most

658
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Speaker 8: of our games. If we have to live with any

659
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Speaker 8: quarterback having to make ten, twelve, thirteen of those special plays,

660
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Speaker 8: it's a hard place to live in when there's easy

661
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Speaker 8: opportunities out in front of you. And so that really

662
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Speaker 8: is where the conversation starts is Josh, tell me, why

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Speaker 8: tell me why you know this initial read? What what

664
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Speaker 8: did you miss here? Or why are you playing so

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Speaker 8: fast here?

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Speaker 3: You know? Was there a look that you got from

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Speaker 3: the defense?

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Speaker 8: Was there an adjustment that you saw that maybe I'm

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Speaker 8: not seeing that made you go there as opposed to

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Speaker 8: just I, you know, I don't know, I just you know,

671
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Speaker 8: I just wanted to make a play and I got

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Speaker 8: going too fast. And it's trying to find that balance

673
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Speaker 8: because again, I could take a if I was the coach,

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Speaker 8: I would go back and find a video of Josh

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Speaker 8: all year long, playing on schedule, seeing it and getting

676
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Speaker 8: the ball out of his hands. And you know, like

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Speaker 8: I said, go back to the first Miami game. I

678
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Speaker 8: thought he was tremendous in that game and it was

679
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Speaker 8: all about ball out of his hands over and over

680
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Speaker 8: and over again. And that, to me is when the Bills,

681
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 8: and I think most quarterbacks are at their best because

682
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Speaker 8: there's going to be easy things in front of you

683
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Speaker 8: in most games, and when you play that way, it

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Speaker 8: just it just makes life so much easier for you

685
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Speaker 8: guys as an offense.

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Speaker 1: And the irony of that for me, Kurt is two

687
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Speaker 1: of the plays you referenced in your breakdown. When he

688
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Speaker 1: doesn't go to Gilliam on the quick out at the

689
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Speaker 1: five yard line to go to the touchdown, and he

690
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: doesn't use the easy answer on the rub play. They

691
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Speaker 1: must have had those conversations in game, because they went

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Speaker 1: right back to those same play calls. And he does

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Speaker 1: hit Dawson Knox at the goal line on the short

694
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Speaker 1: out play for a touchdown late in the game, and

695
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Speaker 1: he hits Shakir up the sidelines on a rub play

696
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Speaker 1: that looked exactly like the one that you broke down

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Speaker 1: that he didn't hit earlier in the game, So at

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Speaker 1: least that shows a willingness on Josh's part to listen

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Speaker 1: to the coaching. And then he says, look, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to come back to this later in the game. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you hit it this next time, and he did

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Speaker 1: on both accounts. So how encouraging is that going forward?

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Speaker 8: If you're Joe Brady, Well, I mean, I think the

704
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 8: bottom line is, as I was saying, I know he

705
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Speaker 8: can do it.

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Speaker 3: I know he can see it.

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Speaker 8: I know he can play from inside the pocket and

708
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Speaker 8: be as good as anybody, And that really just becomes

709
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Speaker 8: the balance. And you know, Steve, you were talking earlier,

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Speaker 8: I never had that specially you know, I was always

711
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Speaker 8: the guy that had to play in the pocket, it

712
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Speaker 8: had to.

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Speaker 3: Play on schedule.

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Speaker 8: So I don't really know how tough that is to

715
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Speaker 8: figure out that balance. How long do I stay in

716
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Speaker 8: the pocket on fourth and one and stay on schedule

717
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Speaker 8: on fourth and one when I know I could go

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Speaker 8: make a play that's going to get us the first out.

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Speaker 8: But again, you know, if you go back and look

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Speaker 8: at you know, if you broke down all the plays

721
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Speaker 8: of you know, these really good quarterbacks, you know, going

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Speaker 8: off schedule and trying to make plays. There's no doubt

723
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Speaker 8: that that the percentage is way lower than when.

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Speaker 3: They play on schedule. Now we see.

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Speaker 8: The really special ones and it's awesome and it's things

726
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Speaker 8: nobody else could do, but when you break it down

727
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Speaker 8: in terms of numbers, the percent of success.

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Speaker 3: Goes way way down.

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Speaker 8: You know, I did a breakdown on Lamar Jackson a

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Speaker 8: couple weeks ago against San Francisco, and they won that

731
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Speaker 8: game big against San Francisco, but most of those plays

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Speaker 8: were off schedule. A lot of the plays in that

733
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Speaker 8: game were off schedule, and they weren't really successful off

734
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Speaker 8: schedule other than.

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Speaker 3: A few times.

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Speaker 8: They came back and played Miami the next week and

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Speaker 8: put up fifty six points and almost every play was

738
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Speaker 8: on schedule.

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Speaker 3: And how much easier that game was, and what it looked.

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Speaker 8: Like when you played red things out and got the

741
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Speaker 8: ball out of your hand in a timely fashion. And

742
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Speaker 8: so I still think that wins more than expecting your

743
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Speaker 8: quarterback to be special. You know, numerous times throughout a game.

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Speaker 8: I still think playing on schedule, seeing what's in front

745
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Speaker 8: of you, getting the ball out of your hands is

746
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Speaker 8: always going to be a bigger benefit.

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Speaker 3: And as I said, it's to me.

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Speaker 8: If if I watch a quarterback and I go, oh,

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Speaker 8: he can't do that, you know he's going to have

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Speaker 8: to live in the special and we're going to have

751
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Speaker 8: to hope that that's good enough for us to win.

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00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 8: That's not the case with the guys I'm talking about,

753
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Speaker 8: you know, Josh and Patrick and Lamar.

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Speaker 3: Those guys can do it.

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Speaker 8: And so I want to see them get comfortable doing

756
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Speaker 8: that and living in that world and then creating you know,

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Speaker 8: only when and again only when they when they have to,

758
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Speaker 8: which is a relative term because again I don't play

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Speaker 8: in that world.

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Speaker 3: Win is that and what does that look like?

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Speaker 8: But I like to at least see them kind of

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Speaker 8: look at one and two and you know, look at

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Speaker 8: their initial read based on the coverage, and then create

764
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 8: as opposed to missing that first or second read that's

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Speaker 8: right out there in front of them.

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Speaker 2: Kurt, last one for me. We've got this first weekend

767
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Speaker 2: of the playoffs coming up, and there's a lot of

768
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Speaker 2: like homecomings. I guess if you finger quotes homecoming, he

769
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Speaker 2: got Deshaun Watson going back to Houston. You've got Tyreek

770
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Speaker 2: Hill and the Dolphins going back to Kansas City. Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: the head coach of the Cowboys, welcoming in the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers, a team he won this World Super World

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Speaker 2: Championship with Matt Stafford going to Detroit with the l

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Speaker 2: A Rams. Some pretty cool stuff storylines like that. What

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Speaker 2: what grabs you about these games? Anything? You know, what's

776
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: the overriding theme for you? What are you looking forward to?

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Speaker 8: You know, I mean I think for me, you know,

778
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Speaker 8: I'm always looking at the quarterback play and the quarterback matchups,

779
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 8: and I think we've got some really good ones this

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Speaker 8: weekend that that are going to be fun.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned, you know, Stafford going back to Detroit, you know,

783
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Speaker 8: and Jared.

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Speaker 3: Golf on the other side.

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Speaker 8: You know how interesting that is, you know, coming off

786
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 8: of the trade first and foremost where the Rams you

787
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 8: know kind of kind of got what they were looking

788
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 8: for winning a world championship. The Lions have gotten what

789
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 8: they're looking for, you know, winning their division for the

790
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 8: first time in thirty years. But but I think it

791
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 8: also comes down to these moments, right show us that

792
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 8: you can be that guy in the moment against that

793
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 8: other really special player that that we got rid of.

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Speaker 3: And so I think this is a huge.

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Speaker 8: Moment for the Lions and Jared Golf, you know, and

796
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Speaker 8: obviously it would be a great statement for Matthew Stafford,

797
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 8: you know, because I know he's still has love for

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00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 8: Detroit to go back there and get a win and

799
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Speaker 8: kind of, you know, show them, you know, I guess

800
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 8: what they're missing to some degree. That's gonna be great.

801
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 8: You know, I love the Houston matchup against Cleveland. You know,

802
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 8: the last time Joe Flacker was unbelievable against Houston, but

803
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 8: C J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud didn't play.

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Speaker 8: He's been one of those special players this year as

806
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 8: a rookie that has been so much fun to watch U.

807
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 8: So I'm I'm excited about that, you know, Tua and

808
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 8: and Patrick Mahomes, even though you know there's some issues

809
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 8: on both sides. You know, that to me is what

810
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 8: I'm always looking at when you get to this point.

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Speaker 8: You know, so many of these games are dependent on

812
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Speaker 8: the quarterback position, and it's about those quarterbacks that have

813
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 8: been really good during the regular season, can you up

814
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 8: your game in the playoffs? Right, We've had a lot

815
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 8: of really good quarterbacks play great regular seasons but never

816
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 8: quite elevate themselves at playoff time, and now we get

817
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 8: a chance to see that. C. J.

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00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: Stroud Can he do it? Jordan Love? Can he do it?

819
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: Jared Goff?

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Speaker 8: Can he do it? In this kind of moment? And

821
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 8: in the playoffs you know where he hasn't been with Detroit.

822
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 8: So those are the cool storylines to me that we're

823
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 8: gonna watch because we know that it's going to come

824
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 8: down to, you know, these quarterbacks making plays to advance

825
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 8: their teams.

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Speaker 1: Kurt, thanks very much for the time. We appreciate it

827
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Speaker 1: and enjoy the playoffs. We'll catch up with you down

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Speaker 1: the line.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Kurt, you got it.

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Speaker 3: You guys do all right.

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Speaker 1: That's Kurt Warner, Pro Football Hall of Famer and NFL

832
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Speaker 1: analyst for the NFL Network. We take a break here,

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Speaker 1: the phones at eighth three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 1: you there. If Gabe Davis with his knee injury is

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00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: out for the Steelers game this weekend, what is the

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00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: offensive adjustment? You let us know, whether it's schematic personnel related.

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Speaker 1: You let us know. We go back to the phones

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Speaker 1: and we go to Brandon in Ellicottville next. What do

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Speaker 1: you have for us?

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Speaker 9: Brandon Hi, Chris Hi, Steve. Good to talk with you again, Bet.

851
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 9: I do have some thoughts if we have to roll

852
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 9: without Gabe Davis. Hopefully we got but some things I'd

853
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 9: like to see is running more twelve personnel with Kinkai

854
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 9: than Knocks. Both have been playing really well. I'd like

855
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 9: to see playoff Lenny active and involve him more both

856
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 9: running and catching with Cook as a good one two punch.

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00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 9: I'd like to see a little bit more of Shakir

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Speaker 9: and give Trent Sheffield some more snaps at wide receiver.

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Speaker 9: Certainly a big touchdown in that game. Like to see

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Speaker 9: more physical play by the offensive line, and for once,

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Speaker 9: I would love to see Edwards get a reception since

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00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 9: he always reports as eligible.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, I think he ran down the whole

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Speaker 1: roster there. The two tight end part is intriguing, Steve,

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Speaker 1: because if we remember the beginning of the season, this

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Speaker 1: team was among the league leaders in usage of twelve personnel.

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Speaker 1: Then Dawson Knox had an injured risk that required surgery

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Speaker 1: and that went by the wayside.

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Speaker 2: Now he's back and fully healthy, a couple of games

870
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: under his belt. Yeah, and Leondard Fournette is obviously a

871
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: spot where you can get some fresh legs in there

872
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: as well, big strong running back.

873
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: And Ty Johnson is you know, he left last week's

874
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: game with a concussion. We'll see if he is officially

875
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol come Wednesday, and if he is, you

876
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: may need four net just from a numbers standpoint. Forget

877
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: about scheme and game plan. You just need him from

878
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: a numbers perspective.

879
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: Right.

880
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting too, you, But but there has to

881
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: be something done. They're gonna have to make some adjustment.

882
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna have to play for Gabe Davis, and he's

883
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: out there as much more than any other receiver or

884
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: running back in the in the game.

885
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: Surefield would seem to fit that Bill from a body

886
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: type and skill set perspective.

887
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: Right, And I don't know that it will be as

888
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: easy as just plugging one in and unplugging the other.

889
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: Which is why maybe a twelve personnel comes to mind

890
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: as an option, right.

891
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: And some of it, maybe, if not all, of this

892
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: has to do with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the matchups.

893
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: So we'll wait and see Minka Fitzpatrick, Marcus Peters, what

894
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna do at corner a safety, Patrick Peterson, what

895
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna do at at corner in safety the absence

896
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: of TJ. Watt. Maybe it turns into a Leonard Fournette game,

897
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: James Cook game.

898
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: Could And who do you choose to bring up on

899
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: the roster if Davis is down? Are you elevating Andy

900
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: Isabella from the practice squad? Is that an option? So

901
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things to consider here based

902
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: on the status of Gabe Davis going forward, which is

903
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: why we're asking the question. Let's go to Mark in

904
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: New Jersey here next and check in with him. What

905
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: do you got for his?

906
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: Mark? Here?

907
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 10: On one Bill's Live good afternoon, gentlemen. I felt maybe

908
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 10: it's a hot tache. I don't know. I felt Josh

909
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 10: was better once Gabe left the game, because I mean,

910
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 10: I'm gonna sound maybe i'ma sound cold, but I feel

911
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 10: like Gabe is the fire drill wide receiver. It's like

912
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 10: Josh scrambles, he starts freaking out Gabe. That's where heat,

913
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 10: that's where he eats, that's where he lives. He gets

914
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 10: those or he runs that little comeback route to Josh

915
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 10: when he's scrambling, those are his two. That's why what

916
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 10: he did in the Tampa Bay game was like, Wow,

917
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 10: he was running a quick slant or getting quick hitters

918
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 10: or hitches, because he doesn't do that. I just felt

919
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 10: like he was going to Shakir. I was just going

920
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 10: to Kincaid. Those guys are more crisp, more timing based guys,

921
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 10: better route runners, better after the you know, the catch

922
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 10: with the ball in their hand. I felt like he

923
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 10: was better. And if you do bring up Isabella, that's fine.

924
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 10: I feel like Ty Johnson would be a bigger miss.

925
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 10: I think he brings them more juice than than Fournette does.

926
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 10: He's just as good in the receiving game. I feel

927
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 10: like Ty Johnson would be a bigger miss in the

928
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 10: game and just quick on the defensive side. I felt

929
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 10: like Specter was better against the run. Again, he was

930
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 10: reading it, he was downhill like he was. He was

931
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 10: all over the place, and in this game. I think

932
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 10: that's important. And I also if if they do do

933
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 10: something on defense at defensive tackle, because I know he's

934
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 10: been down this co last couple of weeks, you think

935
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 10: Joseph has a chance to be up because they're gonna,

936
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 10: you know, try to pounce, you know, in some bad

937
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 10: weather with Harris and then with Ty Warren as opposed

938
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 10: to I'll Puna Ford or maybe one defensive end. Thanks

939
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 10: for taking my cold guy.

940
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that you mention that because I was

941
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: talking about that very thing to Steve in the office

942
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: before we came into the studio and on the air.

943
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, Lynn Val Joseph has been inactive each of

944
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: the last two weeks in favor of poon Afford. I

945
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: wonder if Lynn Val Joseph and poon Afford are active

946
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: against a team that leads the league in run on

947
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: first down percentage. It's fifty nine percent run on first

948
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: down for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and with their third string

949
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: quarterback in there. Even though their point production has gone

950
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: up and they've been more functional with him at quarterback,

951
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: from a passing perspective, I still think they're a run

952
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: first team.

953
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: Nigie Harris is big. He's a like a Derrick Henry

954
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: type back. He's that's how big he is.

955
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: And Jalen Warren is explosive and so and has a

956
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: big body.

957
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: As they're leaning on their best offensive players, it's not

958
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: their quarterback, and that means they run six fifty nine

959
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: percent of the time on first down. You gotta have

960
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: you got to stop that. That's that's job one. Want

961
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: to stop it at the expense of all else because

962
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph isn't a stiff. But that's what you got

963
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: to do. And that might mean lyn Vaal Joseph does

964
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: get actively activated this week.

965
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: And it might mean Baile Inspector is back in at

966
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: linebacker if Tyrel Dodson can't go.

967
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 2: That's right, and maybe it also means uh, it might

968
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: also mean you know that they make some different rotational

969
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: moves up front as well. Yeah, I think this is

970
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: an interesting spot for both these clubs. About the roster

971
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: certainly that Steelers cannot change their stripes. I mean, they're

972
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna come in and try and play the

973
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: way they've they've had to play. Now it's an it's

974
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: an one and done. So they may try a couple

975
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: of things, oh yeah, but they're not They're gonna have

976
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: to win this game by playing the offense that we've

977
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: seen them play. They may pull out a trick play

978
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: here and there, but you know that menu goes away

979
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: pretty quickly.

980
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: And let's not forget that's another team that changed their

981
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the middle of the season, something they

982
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: really haven't ever done in Steelers Country. They don't make

983
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: changes like that normally. And to Mark's point, quickly. There

984
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: is something to be said about the rhythm of the

985
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: passing game after Gabe Davis left the game. And I

986
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: think to Mark's point, yes, Shakir and Kinkaid are both

987
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: more precise route runners. They're in their landmarks on time

988
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: when they're supposed to be. So there is something to

989
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: be said about the rhythm of the passing game that

990
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: ensued after Gabe Davis left the football game. And what

991
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: do you have at the end? Kincaid with some nice production.

992
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: Shakir with some nice production going over one hundred yards.

993
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Six catches on six targets, and I think Kincaid was

994
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: five on six targets, So there was some interesting rhythm

995
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: to the passing game in Davis's absence. You wonder if

996
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: the coaching staff looks at that on film and says, well,

997
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: maybe we should shift some personnel usage and time on

998
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: the field. There as well things to consider and something

999
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: I think we got to talk to Dan Rolovski about

1000
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: in Hour number two. Here, we'll take a rake and

1001
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: be back with ESPN NFL analyst dan Orlowski when we return.

1002
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,680
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1003
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1006
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1007
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Speaker 1: that for a wild Card weekend Bills versus Steelers. Dan,

1014
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: hope you're doing well. Let's begin with week eighteen and

1015
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: the win over the Dolphins. Not a pretty first half,

1016
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: costing themselves some points in the red zone with some

1017
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: turnovers in the end zone. I don't know where you

1018
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: come down on that, but Josh, you know, seem to

1019
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: be a little flustered by, you know, some zero blitzes. Yeah,

1020
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: maybe some of his receivers didn't break hot quick enough

1021
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: and recognize themselves as hot. I mean, there's probably always

1022
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: a number of factors in those kinds of situations. But

1023
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: what did you take away from the early red zone

1024
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: struggles for a team came into the game number one

1025
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: in the red zone?

1026
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you hit the head, hit the nail

1027
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 11: on the head. There was You never know when you're

1028
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 11: on the outside. Is it like lack of plan or

1029
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 11: lack of execution?

1030
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: Now, I don't want to say you never.

1031
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 11: Know, but you because sometimes you could watch a quarterback

1032
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 11: and see do they realize that You could just watch

1033
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 11: their body language and the urgency they have when they

1034
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 11: get the ball. And I do think like on the

1035
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 11: interception Josh's first interception, it does look like he's aware,

1036
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, I'm getting all out pressure and he

1037
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 11: kind of peaks to his right, and you know, I

1038
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 11: don't know if the route concept was one that gave

1039
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 11: him like the proper or necessary answer for zero and

1040
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 11: then Gabe he snaps back and he makes a panic

1041
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 11: throw to Gabe, And it certainly didn't feel like Gabe

1042
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 11: was running his route with the urgency of knowing, Okay,

1043
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 11: Josh's got to get the ball ou of his hands,

1044
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 11: like that's what you really want. Joshould never be holding

1045
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 11: onto that ball fading away, you know, two and a

1046
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 11: half seconds into the play and still throwing a ball

1047
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 11: to a guy with his back to him. There there

1048
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 11: has to be a little bit more sudden urgency by everybody.

1049
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 11: I'm not absolving this was a panic decision by Josh,

1050
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 11: but more of a you know, an urgency and awareness

1051
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 11: specifically in that case of you know, kind of what

1052
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 11: was necessary going down.

1053
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: So you know, that's that's the big takeaway.

1054
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 11: And Josh, you Chris, Joshua was unsettled for the whole

1055
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 11: first half.

1056
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: You could just see it in his eyes.

1057
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 11: You could see it on the deep ball of step

1058
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 11: that should be a ninety five plus yard touchdown. He

1059
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 11: was just so sped up. We all know he gets

1060
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 11: like that at times. The adrenaline for him gets flowing.

1061
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 11: But it was good to see him settle down in

1062
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 11: the second half physically.

1063
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: What else kind of changed besides Josh's demeanor and the

1064
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: kind of the you know, as you say, the body

1065
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: language calmness that you saw a little bit more of

1066
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: in the second half, what else changed for that? I know,

1067
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, Gabe Davis went out and he started to

1068
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,479
Speaker 2: spread the football around. I mean, there were eight guys

1069
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: who caught a pass in that game. Nobody had more

1070
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 2: than one in completion thrown to them. What about that,

1071
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: other than Josh and his demeanor, perhaps you know what

1072
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: else changed?

1073
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, Steve candidly, they Miami had no choice really but

1074
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 11: to start playing more man coverage than they wanted to.

1075
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 11: You know, that's not necessarily who they are, and I

1076
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 11: thought that Joe Brady and Josh and the offense did

1077
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 11: a good job of adjusting to that. You know, when

1078
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 11: they get on that drive that eventually becomes the Dawson

1079
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 11: knocks touchdown. There's three or four consecutive plays where it's

1080
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 11: man coverage and.

1081
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: They dial up the right kind of rub route or

1082
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: pick route.

1083
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 11: You know, it's the ball down the sideline to kin

1084
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 11: Kate when he's getting covered by Ingram.

1085
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 4: That's advantage buffalo.

1086
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 11: And then it's the rail shot off the bubble screen

1087
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 11: pump that they connect on. And then obviously the Dawson

1088
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 11: touchdown is the motion and they switch release it and

1089
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 11: that safety hangs inside. So I think, you know, again,

1090
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 11: Josh settling down and being a little bit completion driven

1091
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 11: was big. And then when Miami declared, like, hey, we

1092
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 11: got play some man coverage, they stopped playing zero, which

1093
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 11: was good because once Josh in the second half hit

1094
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 11: Dawson excuse me, Dalton on a quick little crosser versus

1095
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 11: zero for a first down, automatically Miami went away from it.

1096
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 11: And so I think that's another declaration of you have

1097
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 11: a plan for the pressure. Quarterback settles down a little

1098
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 11: bit and delivers the football, and then when they got manned,

1099
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 11: they had the right concepts for.

1100
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: It, spinning it forward to the Steelers Dan. Obviously, the

1101
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh offense has gone through even more dramatic change than

1102
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: the Bills. Both teams changed coordinators, but Pittsburgh is now

1103
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: on their third quarterback and Mason Rudolph, veteran player, has

1104
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: been there. What would you say are some of the

1105
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: changes for the better to the functionality of Pittsburgh's offense

1106
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: with those respective changes.

1107
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I just called their Week eighteen game at

1108
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 11: Baltimore when it was a must win very simply. The

1109
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 11: number one thing they've done is they've stopped going side

1110
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 11: to side as an offense and they decided to simplify

1111
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 11: and just go We're gonna go right at you. They're

1112
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 11: not gonna try to confuse you. They're not gonna try

1113
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 11: to trick you. They're gonna put three tight ends on

1114
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 11: the field so often they're more often than not, gonna

1115
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 11: have two tight ends on the field, and they're gonna

1116
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 11: run basically two to three run plays. You know, one

1117
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 11: of the run plays is gonna be duo where they'll

1118
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 11: get three tight ends on the field. They're gonna get

1119
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 11: multiple double teams. And Chris, I'll tell you this like that,

1120
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 11: if you were gonna ask me, what is gonna be

1121
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 11: one of the if not the most important things for

1122
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 11: this Buffalo defense versus Pittsburgh's offense.

1123
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: All eleven have got to be ready.

1124
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 11: To tackle because Pittsburgh's number one goal right now in

1125
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 11: their run game is to get the ball to the secondary.

1126
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 11: They don't care if it's one on one at the

1127
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 11: line of scrimmage with the safety or a corner.

1128
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 4: That's all they want to do in their run game.

1129
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 11: Warren is and I know you guys are popping clips

1130
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 11: right now with their past game. I want to get

1131
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 11: to that, but Warren has become like their dynamic guy.

1132
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 11: You're gonna have to tackle Najee Harris really well, so

1133
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 11: you're not gonna get confused. A little bit more motion,

1134
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 11: a little bit more play action. They've tied that stuff together.

1135
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 11: Mason Rudolph hasn't given the ball away. They have one goal,

1136
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 11: keep the game close, and then if the game's close,

1137
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 11: they want to get a big play. They want to

1138
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 11: get Deontay Johnson or Pickens or Farrimouth go make a

1139
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 11: big play, and they do a very good job of

1140
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 11: that recently.

1141
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: How close to the vest do they play it offensively?

1142
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you would think in an all

1143
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: or nothing game what they were in one list last

1144
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: week against the Baltimore Ravens backups. But in a game

1145
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: like this in Buffalo, I mean, this is when you

1146
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: see you know, the reverse pass or the backward pass,

1147
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: double pass, that kind of stuff once in a while

1148
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: that men. And I said this earlier that men you

1149
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: get short really quick. You may see one or two

1150
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: of those plays. But ultimate, you know, they if they

1151
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: get into a game where it's a two possession game

1152
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: where they've got to score twice, that's when they can't.

1153
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: Really.

1154
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough for them.

1155
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't and I don't know.

1156
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

1157
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 4: I don't believe so, But I don't know if it

1158
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: will change without t J.

1159
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: Watt.

1160
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: You know, obviously TG is the.

1161
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 11: Most important person on the field for them, and right

1162
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 11: and he he's won two games for them this year.

1163
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 11: I don't know how many people in football can say that,

1164
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 11: maybe Deron Bland and Miles. So I don't know if

1165
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 11: it changes, because you know, they they have such great

1166
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 11: faith and defensively, you know, when in Buffalo's offense in

1167
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 11: comparison to you know, Pittsburgh's defense, they don't care about yards.

1168
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 11: Josh is not gonna get confused by coverage much. They'll

1169
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 11: give you a little bit of late rotation, Steve. You

1170
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 11: know they want to play cover three, and how many

1171
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 11: different ways can they play cover three?

1172
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 4: This is one of those games, Josh, get the.

1173
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 11: Ball out, don't try and hold it because high Smith

1174
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 11: can still rush her, Big can still rush. Being Keanu

1175
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 11: Benton can still rush. Get the ball out, get completions,

1176
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 11: see the overlap corner. Here's here's where they're great. Red

1177
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 11: zone defense, takeaways. I think they're second in the NFL

1178
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 11: getting turnovers in the red.

1179
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 4: Zone, let alone forcing field goals.

1180
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 11: You know, I think the middle of the field can

1181
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 11: be a big pass game opportunity for them, Buffalo. And

1182
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 11: so yeah, if you jump on them, Steve, They're just

1183
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 11: not They don't That's not who they want to be.

1184
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 11: They don't want to be schematically overly creative. They don't

1185
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 11: want to be schematically overly chasing big plays.

1186
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 4: They want to go after you. They want to.

1187
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 11: Force you to play sound, technically fundamental football and tackle

1188
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 11: well on the perimeter.

1189
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit more about working that

1190
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: middle of the field offensively for Buffalo, because I think

1191
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: Kincaid and Shakir have emerged in an encouraging way here

1192
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: down the stretch, particularly on this five game win streak.

1193
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: Shakir in particular, in the last four games in which

1194
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: he has been targeted, he has a one hundred percent

1195
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: catch rate. And now I realize there are more high

1196
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: percentage throws with Shakir than say somebody like a Gabe Davis.

1197
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: But still, in all how much of positive reinforcement is

1198
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: that for someone like Josh to stay within the structure

1199
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: of the offense and take what the defense gives him

1200
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: with two weapons like that over the middle of the

1201
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: field to utilize in the intermediate area.

1202
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 11: It Chris, It's massive, and it's really two things that

1203
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 11: stand out with Shakir if you've watched kind of even

1204
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 11: last year and then his growth in development this year,

1205
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 11: and you're seeing some shots over the middlefield.

1206
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: Two things that he's doing really well. Number One, when

1207
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 4: he gets to the top of his routes, whether it's

1208
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 4: man or zone.

1209
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 11: Like if it's man, he's doing a great job of

1210
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 11: separating at the top of his route. He's not winning

1211
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 11: outrageously at the line of scrimmage, but he's doing a

1212
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 11: really nice job.

1213
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: Of separating just enough at the top.

1214
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 11: The second thing, and I think this is probably the

1215
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 11: most important thing is he is very loud with his

1216
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 11: body language. Steve, you know this, like he's very loud

1217
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 11: with his body language. Am I running full speed away

1218
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 11: from somebody? How sharp I'm coming downhill versus on a route?

1219
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 11: Am I gonna sit or throttle or be boring in

1220
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 11: his zone? And Josh, you know, when when you hear

1221
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 11: that's saying in football, like the quarterback has great confidence

1222
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 11: in him, where is that confidence coming. That's where the

1223
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 11: confidence that Josh has in him right now is he's

1224
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 11: doing those two things really well. Obviously, Dalton mismatches the

1225
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 11: length that he can play with over the field.

1226
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 4: He's got great feel, you know.

1227
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 11: And so I think those two guys, and this doesn't

1228
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 11: have to be a game.

1229
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 4: Chris where it's like dink and dunk.

1230
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 11: You know, there are gonna be moments where Josh has

1231
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 11: got to get the ball out and just take a

1232
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 11: completion and they're gonna but there are going to be

1233
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 11: plenty of opportunities in the fourteen to eighteen to eighteen

1234
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 11: to twenty two years yard range, you know, in between

1235
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 11: the top of the numbers and really to the hash

1236
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 11: where they can make some hay with some explosive plays.

1237
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: Give us a quick characterization of this Pittsburgh defense because

1238
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, we know Minka Fitzpatrick, he's been in an

1239
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: out of line. He may be back in, and the

1240
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: defensive backs and give us a kind of a rundown

1241
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: of what their personality is. Certainly TJ. Watt changes that

1242
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: personality a little. But what have they been?

1243
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, they really wanted to be a four down team

1244
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: with TJ.

1245
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 11: Watt and Alex Heighsmith as the guys that had tremendous

1246
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 11: get off obviously advantage when you're home Buffalo and than

1247
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 11: not doing that. I think Josh's cadence has to be

1248
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 11: huge this week because both TJ and Heismith are great

1249
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 11: with their get off. They pay attention, They listen to

1250
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 11: the words that you use. They know what live words

1251
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 11: are and aren't. So like, you got to be really

1252
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 11: good with your cadence this week of Josh. But that's

1253
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 11: what they wanted to be. They've been beat up at

1254
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 11: linebacker health wise, and so they're rotating a bunch of

1255
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 11: guys in. They've got guys that they want to put

1256
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 11: in versus either run personnels or run situations.

1257
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 4: So take advantage of.

1258
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 11: That if you can, then they have guys that they

1259
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 11: want to play like a Miles Jack. They want him

1260
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 11: in on passing formations, personnels or situations. Take advantage of that.

1261
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 11: Patrick Peterson, who's going to be a you know, potential

1262
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 11: Hall of Famers playing free safety a little bit for

1263
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 11: them now obviously an incredible career. It's still luxlick. He

1264
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 11: looks like he's adjusting to that. How he plays in

1265
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 11: the middle of field, tackling in the middle of the field.

1266
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 11: Joey Porter Junior. I would not be surprised if he,

1267
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 11: you know, shadows Steph a lot. He's a very physical player,

1268
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 11: gonna be very, very very good. He's already pretty darn good.

1269
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 11: I don't want to make this defense sound like World Beaters.

1270
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 11: It's there's there's solid, and that's with TJ. I think

1271
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 11: that if Buffalo plays the way that they did in

1272
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 11: the second half and settled and don't hurt themselves, they

1273
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 11: they they should have a lot of success.

1274
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: And then last one for me, Dan. Since Week ten,

1275
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: the Bills are averaging about thirty five carries per game.

1276
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: It leads the league. Their success in the run game

1277
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: has kind of slid back to the pack. The last

1278
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks.

1279
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 7: This.

1280
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: You know Pittsburgh Historically you'd say, wow, it's tough to

1281
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: run on Pittsburgh. But you look at the numbers and

1282
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: they say otherwise. I mean, they're nineteenth against the run.

1283
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: Are they a middle of the pack run defense that

1284
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: the Bills should have some opportunities against or are they

1285
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: capable of rising up and maybe neutralizing that and forcing

1286
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo to be one dimensional?

1287
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 4: Now they're middle of the pack and you're again you're

1288
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 4: doing this.

1289
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: TJ.

1290
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 4: Watt is not just a sack guy either. He's great

1291
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: against the run. Kim Hayward a stalwart. He's a little

1292
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: banged up. They you know, he's been hurt all year. Again.

1293
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 11: Keanu Benton, who's a rookie out of for them, out

1294
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 11: of wisconsin's good player. The run game will matter and

1295
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 11: the efficiency their offense is going to matter. This is

1296
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 11: very simple for me. This team in Pittsburgh, you tip

1297
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 11: your hat to them. Unbelievable that they are in and

1298
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Speaker 11: the job that Mike Tomlin has done. If you don't

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Speaker 11: hold the ball as a passer and if you don't

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01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 11: become reckless with the ball in the red zone, this

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01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 11: defense isn't capable of holding this offense down. This is

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01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 11: a mature game by everybody on this offense. It's a

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01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 11: maturity game. You go out, you do what you have

1304
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 11: to do, mix your personnels. You could run or pass,

1305
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 11: get beat, be completion driven. As long as Josh isn't

1306
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 11: careless with the football and as long as they're not

1307
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 11: because Minka Fitzpatrick if he plays, or Eric Rowdie's the

1308
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 11: one thing, Chris that this defense is really good at

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 11: punching the ball out. They come in with the Peanut

1310
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 11: Tillman punch. If I was Buffalo's coaches all week.

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01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 4: That's what we're stressing.

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Speaker 11: So again, I don't want to minimize and their an

1313
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 11: NFL defense. It's in the playoffs, But if you don't

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 11: give them stuff, they're not good enough to stop this offense.

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Speaker 2: Is there a percentage you can attach to TJ. Watt?

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01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: If they're one hundred percent with TJ. Watt in there,

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01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: what are they without him?

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Speaker 4: Steve I would say, especially if Minka doesn't.

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01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: Play right fifty Oh really wow? Yeah, he's defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If he's not, he's second third, So he's unbelievable.

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01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly did catch a break there. There's no

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Speaker 1: question about that, Dan, thanks as always for the time.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Dan, Thanks guys, have a great week.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's Dan Orlowski joining us as he does

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Speaker 1: every week ESPN NFL analyst, former NFL quarterback, and he

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Speaker 1: just did the Steelers game last week. That's why I

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01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: wanted to hit him with so many Steelers questions. You

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01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: just saw him. What are they looking like? They were

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01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: in a do or die situation last week? How did

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: they perform? What was the play selection? That kind of stuff,

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: because you know they're going to try to duplicate that

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01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: again this week. The only difference is they're going to

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: starters here in Buffalo, not some backups in Baltimore. Not

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: to take anything away from the backups in Baltimore, but

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Speaker 1: their backups for a race.

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Speaker 2: You've got to think about this game, the way the

1340
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: lines up, even the analytics were looking at the stats

1341
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: and where they're ranked and how they've done all season.

1342
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: You know they're not gonna jump out of that a bunch.

1343
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna be who they are. And Orlovsky's right, the

1344
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: Steeler are gonna play you straight up and let you

1345
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: mistake this game into their lap. And that if you

1346
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: don't mistake it into them, give it to them, they're

1347
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: gonna have a hard time taking it away from you.

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01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: They are good at getting the ball out. They are

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: good at punching the ball out. They are good at

1350
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: red zone turnovers when you know when things are closed

1351
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: and they get a lot of guys on the ball,

1352
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: they are good at that. And with TJ. Watt and there,

1353
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 2: their pass rush is always excellent, especially with Hayward also

1354
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: rushing the passer. So that's who this game is gonna be.

1355
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: That's what this game is gonna look like. The Pittsburgh

1356
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 2: Steelers are gonna play you straight up and beat you

1357
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: with a turnover two with your mistakes and with your mistakes.

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and proof of that. And this is probably a

1359
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: big reason because people are like, how the heck did

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: this team get in the postseason. They did it by

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: doing just what Dan said. They play sound, fundamental football

1362
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: and hope you mess up, and more often than not

1363
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,480
Speaker 1: in their ten victories this season, that has happened. Pittsburgh

1364
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven takeaways on the season and only sixteen giveaways.

1365
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: They've protected the football and tried to take advantage of

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: turnovers by the opposition. They are a plus eleven in

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01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: the turnover margin this season. That is second best in

1368
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: the league to only Baltimore, who oh, by the way,

1369
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: finished thirteen and four because they kind of gave the

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01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: last game of the season to Pittsburgh there, so that'll

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: tell you.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's third in the league, tied for third with New

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01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: Orleans for plus eleven.

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: Differentially, I was talking about the AFC or second in

1375
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: the AFC and plus eleven, but yes, third in the league,

1376
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: tied for second most in positive turnover.

1377
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: Bufalo Buffalo's number twelve at plus two.

1378
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: Correct.

1379
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it is a thing. It is where

1380
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: they can be give themselves a couple of extra possessions

1381
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: by with turnovers and not give you anything. And that's right.

1382
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: It's it's a huge advantage.

1383
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: They they have eleven fumble recoveries, but there are twenty

1384
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: six fumbles by their opponents in seventeen games. That's more

1385
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 1: than more than one per game obviously, So yeah, they

1386
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: do get it out and it's gonna be something to

1387
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. I know some fans have called

1388
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: in and expressing a little concern about ball security at

1389
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: times with the Bills offense. And I get it, and

1390
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: against a team like this, they're gonna have to mind

1391
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: their p's and q's on that front for sure. Let's

1392
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: get back to the phones though, at eight oh three

1393
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty topic

1394
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: of discussion. If Gabe Davis with his knee injury is

1395
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: out for the Steelers game on Sunday, what is the

1396
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: offensive adjustment? We go to Steven in Florida next. What's

1397
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: up Steven?

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 11: Hey.

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01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 7: Before I get to what I called about, I want

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 7: to skive a shout out to Chris and Eric and

1402
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 7: sal Uh. You guys are second to none when it

1403
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 7: comes to calling these games. I've listened to some of

1404
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 7: the other games, you know, when we were told who

1405
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 7: to root for to help Buffalo. These other teams, Man,

1406
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 7: these guys sound like they're either bored or egotistical. You

1407
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 7: guys do a great job. Chris. I love the commentary

1408
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 7: you give, the adverbs and you know description you give

1409
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 7: like cook is in the kitchen, you know, ride them cowboy?

1410
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 7: What a beast?

1411
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 6: You know?

1412
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 7: Allan is? You just you guys do a great job.

1413
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 7: So I just want to say I really appreciate you

1414
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 7: because I don't have a TV. I have to depend

1415
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 7: on the radio with w GR and it really helps

1416
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 7: me a lot. So thank you very much for the

1417
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 7: great job.

1418
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 7: Now what I called about specifically, Uh, I know you're

1420
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 7: asking about, you know, Gabe Davis, I think and I

1421
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 7: specifically called about uh Josh, which I'll get to in

1422
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 7: a minute. But I think Buffalo's got enough depth and

1423
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 7: they showed this in the game against Miami. Uh Diggs,

1424
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 7: he did get back into the game. He got even

1425
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 7: though Josh missed that you know bomb, which would have

1426
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 7: been a touchdown to him. But when you look at Dalton, Kincaid, Knox,

1427
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 7: Shakir was huge and even Cook when he's on point

1428
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 7: coming out of the backfield, Uh, Josh has enough in

1429
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 7: that arsenal to make some big play. So yes, Gabe

1430
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 7: is you know, if he's not playing, it's a definite

1431
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 7: loss for the Bills. But the thing is, I think

1432
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 7: Buffalo's got enough depth there where they can overcome that.

1433
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 7: Now here's what I want to say about Josh. I

1434
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 7: was looking on the Bills website and for the key

1435
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 7: stats and facts. This is one I haven't heard mentioned

1436
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 7: at all. Now we've heard about how fourth season in

1437
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 7: a row. Fourth season. Now Josh set an NFL record

1438
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 7: for the history of the NFL forty or more touchdowns.

1439
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 7: All right, that's huge. But also with this game, he

1440
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 7: brought Steve Young's NFL record for over three hundred passing

1441
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 7: and seventy five rushing yards. He logged his ninth caleer game.

1442
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 7: So what I want to say is, you know I'm

1443
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 7: hearing these terms us Josh's reckless, he gets sloppy. Well,

1444
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 7: look at I knew in this game he was going

1445
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 7: to be more wide open. I knew he was not

1446
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 7: going to have this conservative approach in the previous four

1447
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 7: games and was going to break this wide open with

1448
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 7: the passing game. And so what I want to say

1449
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 7: is he's not reckless. I call him dangerously daring because

1450
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 7: he's so unpredictable. I don't know another quarterback in the

1451
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 7: entire league that really the defense on their toes. And yeah,

1452
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 7: it's great if he can stay in the pocket and

1453
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 7: hit his targets. But the thing is he's so dangerous

1454
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 7: because of his running ability as well, and his ability

1455
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 7: to look at the defense and never panic and just

1456
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 7: be able to How many times have we seen him

1457
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 7: running towards the sideline, and all of a sudden he

1458
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 7: threads it through two defenders and hits his target in

1459
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 7: the end zone. So Josh Allen is amazing. And the

1460
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 7: thing is, I don't see where Pittsburgh can beat this

1461
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 7: team Sunday. Not to take away from them, but the

1462
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 7: thing is with you know, the I think the Pittsburgh

1463
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 7: Steelers fans are gonna need those because they're beginning to

1464
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 7: doing a lot of weeping into those towels at the

1465
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 7: end of this game.

1466
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: All right, Steven, thanks for the call. Appreciate that we're

1467
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: up against the break here, so we got to cut.

1468
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: A loose Yeah.

1469
01:14:55,400 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Steve Josh is so damn entertained

1470
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: that fans are just like, he's amazing. Just let him

1471
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: do that stuff.

1472
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1473
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: And I think for coaches, while they appreciate the efforts

1474
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: and the lengths that Josh will go to to make

1475
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: a play, I think sometimes they want to tell him, hey, man,

1476
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: if you just stay in the structure of the offense here,

1477
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: I've got an easy answer for you here and an

1478
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: easy answer for you there. If we just read the

1479
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: defense pre snap. We have answers built into the structure

1480
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 1: of the offense for you, and sometimes Josh's own competitive

1481
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 1: nature can be his own worst enemy in going against

1482
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: the structure of the offense.

1483
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we had you know, Kurt Warner in the

1484
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: first hour of the show went into all that too.

1485
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: It's just they have answers, and sometimes Josh doesn't wait

1486
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: for those answers. He gets a little antsy before it,

1487
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: even when there's no pressure, he gets impatient waiting for

1488
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: the for the play to develop.

1489
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: And we've had Greg Coseell tell us too that, in

1490
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: his opinion, sometimes Josh leaves the pocket too early.

1491
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, it's all fun, and it's all

1492
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: so fun when Josh, you know, goes out and you know,

1493
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: jumps out of bounds and while he's in the air

1494
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: throws a touchdown pass. I mean, we get all that

1495
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 2: fun stuff. But for the rest of the guys on

1496
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: the field and for the coaching staff to make it

1497
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,919
Speaker 2: easier on him and in some respects even more difficult

1498
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 2: on the defense, just take what that is there right

1499
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 2: at the snap, the quick flat route or the easy completion.

1500
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: If you can do that, then you know the rest

1501
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: of the game, all those other plays come to you

1502
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: more organically rather than you having to create them, and

1503
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 2: that's kind of the sweet spot.

1504
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1505
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: Indeed, we have to take a break here, but we're

1506
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: back to your phone calls when we come back. So

1507
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: George and Colvin Miles in Rochester, hang tight. We'll get

1508
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: to you and others at eight oh three oh five

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01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: fifty when we return here. On One Bill's Live, presented

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: by Klaida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown Steeve tasker with you, and we're headed right back

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Speaker 1: to the phones where our topic of discussion today. If

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis misses Sunday's game with his knee injury, what

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Speaker 1: is the offensive adjustment? You let us know at eight

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Speaker 1: o three oh five fifty to George and Colvin, what

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Speaker 1: do you got for us?

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Speaker 12: George, Hey, guys, I think you just play Shakir some

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Speaker 12: more if you want to answer to that question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's certainly been performing well the last

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Speaker 1: few weeks. There's no argument there for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem is sometimes Gabeen and Shakir on the

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Speaker 2: field at the same time. Correct.

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Speaker 12: Well, I happen to find a magazine here called shout

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Speaker 12: from ninety three and it's Road Warriors. My next stop

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Speaker 12: Miami for the AFC title after we got done beating

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Speaker 12: the Pittsburgh Steelers the game before. So it's kind of reverse,

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Speaker 12: but basically, you know, we'll continue on after beating the

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Speaker 12: Steelers twenty three.

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Speaker 13: We beat them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Steelers. That's right. Steve was just looking at

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Speaker 1: some clips from that game before he came on the

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Speaker 1: air today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank Reich started that game in place of Jim

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Speaker 2: Kelly because.

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Speaker 12: Rod caught a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That's right, James, James Lofton caught a touchdown. A lot

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Speaker 2: of good stuff that. Yeah, I gotta tell you. You know,

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Speaker 2: you go back as many years you want. The team

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Speaker 2: names never changed. The players do, but the team names

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Speaker 2: are always there. And you've always seen, you know, Bills

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Speaker 2: have played in Pittsburgh in the playoffs, and now this

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Speaker 2: year they're gonna the Steeler are gonna play in Buffalo

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. It's what goes around around sooner or later.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move along to Miles in Rochester. What do

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Speaker 1: you got, Miles?

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Speaker 14: Hey, hey, brownie, how are you? First off, I think

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Speaker 14: you should be in the Geneseo Sports Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 14: I'm gonna give you that, Steve Tisker Tasker, I'm rooting

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Speaker 14: for you for the NFL Hall of Fame, But I

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Speaker 14: don't know man as a special teamer. You gotta change

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Speaker 14: that hat. I need a zoobas New Era Bill's hat

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Speaker 14: on you in these videos. Okay, okay, all right, get

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Speaker 14: it going on. I'm sorry, guys. Gabe Davis, I don't know.

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Speaker 14: He and Josh just haven't seemed to be on the

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Speaker 14: same page all year. Don't know what it is. I

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Speaker 14: love Gabe, but I don't know. Outside of that though,

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Speaker 14: I wanted to pivot a little. See what you guys

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Speaker 14: thought about the Josh Allen MVP stuff. You know, the

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Speaker 14: guy has forty four total touchdowns. He has more total

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Speaker 14: yardage than anyone in the in the league. But everyone

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Speaker 14: seems to think that the disc us is totally over

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Speaker 14: and Lamar is the MVP. I know the turnovers, obviously,

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Speaker 14: we all know about the turnovers. But you know, I

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Speaker 14: think it's the Cy Young effect in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 14: Most wins of all times Cy Young, most losses Cy

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Speaker 14: Young without Jeff Allen. This team maybe wins four or

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Speaker 14: five games this year without Lamar Jackson. You know, I

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Speaker 14: think the Ravens, you know, are still a playoff team

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Speaker 14: with Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco, Steve what do you what

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Speaker 14: do you think is going on as a player. I mean,

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Speaker 14: he doesn't get voted to the Pro Bowl. They're seeming

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Speaker 14: to put him on the back shelf for MVP. I

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Speaker 14: don't know in my mind, Pro Bowl, All Pro and MVP.

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Speaker 14: What do you guys think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think anybody any

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks playing better than Josh. I mean, certainly you can.

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Speaker 2: You can throw there. You can throw darts at his stats,

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Speaker 2: but you know you can dart throw darts at one

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Speaker 2: stat the turnovers, the you know, the interceptions, but you

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Speaker 2: know he I highlighted something on social media the other

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Speaker 2: day he has in his six year career if you

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Speaker 2: add up all his turn on and I know this too.

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Speaker 2: You don't take a cumulative group of statistics and throw

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Speaker 2: it into one year for an MVP. But individually, in

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Speaker 2: the four of the six losses, Josh has given the

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Speaker 2: team the lead in the last two minutes of the

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Speaker 2: game and they couldn't hold it in some games, they

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Speaker 2: did in others, but he gave him the lead. He

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Speaker 2: actively gave him the lead by scoring points in the

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Speaker 2: last two to three minutes of a game to give

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Speaker 2: his team a chance to win. And and for the

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Speaker 2: six losses, they couldn't do that, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: their wins they were able to do it. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: but that's Josh scoring the points that gives them a chance.

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Speaker 2: You know, the fact that when he takes over, he

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Speaker 2: takes over a game like nobody else. Miami Dolphins are

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Speaker 2: the perfect example of that. In their first game. Nobody

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Speaker 2: had as good a game in the league as Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen did in the first game against Miami, and he

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Speaker 2: followed it up with another one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the problem in my estimation. Okay, there is

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Speaker 1: a national narrative out there that Josh is a turnover machine.

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Speaker 1: You can use the numbers to back up that argument.

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Speaker 1: And when that is the national narrative, and he is

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Speaker 1: on national television seven times this season, including Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: he has three turnovers in the last nationally televised game

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Speaker 1: in the league in the regular season, and he has

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Speaker 1: four turnovers in the first nationally televised game that they

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Speaker 1: had this season, it supports that narrative, right wrong, or indifferent.

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Speaker 1: And guess what if people repeat that narrative enough, there

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Speaker 1: are people out there who believe it. I mean, all

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Speaker 1: you gotta look is at. All you gotta look at

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Speaker 1: is some of the political campaigns of the last ten

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Speaker 1: years to tell you that if you have, if you

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Speaker 1: create a narrative long enough enough, people believe it to

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Speaker 1: vote for you. So it's the same here. Unfortunately, to

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's detriment, if you ask just a fan watching

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Speaker 1: this game that is not a fan of the Bills,

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Speaker 1: not a fan of the Dolphins, what plays. Pick five

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Speaker 1: plays from the game that you remember. They're gonna remember

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Speaker 1: two of Josh's picks in the end zone. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna remember him running for fifteen yards on a third

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Speaker 1: and thirteen, carrying a linebacker and bursting through two defensive

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Speaker 1: backs for a first down. That's MVP worthy stuff, along

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Speaker 1: with everything else that he does for this football team.

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Speaker 1: But if you ask the average NFL fan to pick

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Speaker 1: out five plays from that game, they're gonna pick the

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Speaker 1: two picks in the end zone. They just are.

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Speaker 2: And they also and also they they don't at their

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Speaker 2: fingertips have the same narrative for other guys in the conversation,

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Speaker 2: like he's he's got like three more turnovers than the

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Speaker 2: next guy who's by the Way's or Pat Mahomes. He

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Speaker 2: tied to a tongo I Loo for a touchdown passes

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Speaker 2: on the season and then added fifteen rushing touchdowns two

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Speaker 2: has zero. I mean, it's it's not there's some while

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Speaker 2: the turnover thing is is real and Josh does lead

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Speaker 2: the league in turn interceptions, I mean, nobody can touch

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Speaker 2: him for the other stats, the rushing touchdowns, the yardage,

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Speaker 2: the total touchdowns, the total yardage, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I just think there's way too much that Josh did

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Speaker 2: for the Buffalo Bills and what he means to this

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Speaker 2: team as opposed to other quarterbacks in the league. Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson included.

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Speaker 1: He had four hundred and twenty six yards of offense

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. I mean it's he's MVP in spades, but

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Speaker 1: the national narrative works against him. And when he inadvertently

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Speaker 1: supports that narrative with the turnover, I mean, he had

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Speaker 1: three turnover Sunday. To me, that killed his MVP chances.

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Speaker 1: If he has four touchdown passes Sunday night and they

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Speaker 1: win by twenty I think he's in the running. I

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Speaker 1: think he's got a legitimate look at running. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got to look at it. He's in the running now,

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Speaker 1: I mean to get enough votes time.

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Speaker 2: I think he's. Yeah, he's in the conversation, no question

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Speaker 2: about it, and people who it and some of it

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Speaker 2: comes down to what each voter's interpretation of it is.

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Speaker 2: Is the best player on the best team, then you

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Speaker 2: got to think about a forty nine or or a

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Raven and Lamar. If it's the guy who means

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Speaker 2: the most to their team, then you got to open

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Speaker 2: it up to everybody else. And you know Josh certainly

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Speaker 2: leads that group. I mean, there's no way, and you

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Speaker 2: may be right. This team might be a four or

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Speaker 2: five win team, six win team without Josh. With Josh,

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Speaker 2: they are the two seed in the conference. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's I mean, I yeah, I think Josh is the

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Speaker 2: MVP this year, no question about it. I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not shy about saying it. I think the stats

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Speaker 2: do more to support it than you know, shout it down.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, Brownie's right. Once that gets out there

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Speaker 2: and you see it on team where he throws it away,

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Speaker 2: and then nobody really comes back to on the broadcast.

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Speaker 2: They don't really mention he's got four hundred plus yards

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Speaker 2: of total offense. Yeah, you know, they don't.

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Speaker 1: The only person that's done that is Mike Greenberg.

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Speaker 2: Right, And then you look and then you look at

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Speaker 2: the last drive when they're a third, when they're third

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Speaker 2: and thirteen, and he shrugs off Quinn Williams and runs

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Speaker 2: through two defensive backs uh in five yards to get

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Speaker 2: the first down. I mean, I mean that nobody else

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Speaker 2: makes that play, nobody, and he does in a game

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Speaker 2: they had to have. You know, it's just h Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Josh is the MVP for me. Certainly. That doesn't say

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Speaker 2: anything like that the Lamar stinks or or brock Purty stinks,

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Speaker 2: or Christian McCaffrey stinks, or Tyreek stinks. Josh is more

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Speaker 2: important and he played better all year than any of

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Speaker 2: those guys.

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Speaker 1: Agreed. Gotta take a break here, One final segment to

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Speaker 1: go on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to one of those live. Let's quickly squeeze in

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Speaker 1: a phone call. Joe, are you there?

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Speaker 13: I got a story about a friend of mine. He

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Speaker 13: reached out last week and wanted to make a bet

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Speaker 13: about the Dolphins game. He said that basically the loser

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Speaker 13: would have to wear the winner's jersey and sing the

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Speaker 13: winners fight song and then have it pasted posted to Facebook.

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Speaker 13: Rather so I know, I know me too, obviously I

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Speaker 13: signed up. We all know what happened with the game.

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Speaker 13: And it turns out that he hasn't done it yet,

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Speaker 13: but in the process of Hardy's kick return, he actually

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Speaker 13: inflicted damage on one of his televisions and frustration.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 13: So I wanted all of Bill's mafia and you guys

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Speaker 13: obviously to know that there is a Dolphins fan in

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Speaker 13: Rochester that damaged a perfectly good working televis vision just

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Speaker 13: to express his frustration over the kick return and ultimately

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Speaker 13: the loss.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: That is something else. We've We've seen footage sometimes, Steve.

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Speaker 1: We've seen footage sometimes.

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Speaker 2: A lot of fun stuff. We'll talk more about it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see it one

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Speaker 3: M