WEBVTT - The Large Professor Episode 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.800 Get you know, boys, it's back and reoded all in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.480 your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.119 the streets, the reel, the railroading, the distant franchise, the 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.040 truth escape building. And they ain't know when we speak 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.360 the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.200 The North South East coat is the g B my 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.439 twa keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.720 wants to be drips head by And then the system 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.639 is so corrupt they throw the rock out of their 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:32.080 heads and then blame it on us. Don't get twisted 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:37.360 on code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.440 Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.040 are the ghetto Boys Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.000 information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 0:00:48.040 --> 0:01:01.440 beautiful world. And the studio large, Professor, appreciate your respect, 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.680 super respect that that we are sitting in the building 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:12.120 with with not only hip hop history, but hip hop royalty. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.240 Bro Man, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Man, I'm just trying 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.200 to live up. Man, got a bunch of records in 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.240 the in the call right now, Man, Man, forever, man 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.400 doing it. We're still doing it, man. This is what 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.480 we do. What we do. You know what, Man, when 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.960 I when I think of you, when I look at you, man, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.600 it's just would be tripping me out a lot, because 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.760 I know that we know who you are, we know 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:39.000 what you've done, we know your contributions. But you know, 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.840 you take the average blow, you know, out on the 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.280 street or whatever. They don't know, they don't understand the impact. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.040 I got work to do. I got work to do. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.440 We won't be here for it. Was that something that 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:55.600 you did. You did you intentionally like play playing low key, 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.960 you know, and not really trying to get all the 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.920 way after that, everybody know, yeah I did this, Yeah, 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:01.760 I did this, I did this, I did that. I 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.360 did this, I did that. I did that, Like you 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.800 did that. You did this, you did that, you did that. Yeah, 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.760 people don't even know. Yeah, you know, I think I 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.240 can attribute that to like just that industry thing. You know, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.600 once you get in the industry, it started becoming you know, 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.800 like I was one of them dudes from that ever 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.720 where dudes thought they had to go up in the 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.880 office to get their music out there, you know what 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.200 I mean. That's one of the earlier days. So that 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.639 was my thing. But I think that was a thing 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.840 that kind of contributed to that where it was like, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.840 all right, he's on this label and name promoting and 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.399 you know, so it wasn't me because I was trying 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.280 to stick my chest out as far as I could 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.880 with the music, you know what I mean, and put 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.520 it out there, MTV, whatever, whoever. You know, it wasn't 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.040 for them. But if y'all want offer the platform, we're 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.760 gonna rap. You know. That was my thing. So now 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.280 it's it's when I look at it in retrospect, I'm like, yo, 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.959 I don't know if the industry was meant for me, 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.160 you know what I'm saying. I don't know if it was. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.960 I mean, it got me out there, It definitely got 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.760 me out there, but you know, I think that's what 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.760 that was. It was like a like an industry stigma 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.919 with you know, just the big corporations and the indies 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.119 and you know that kind of that was a real 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.880 turn off for me too. Man, when it came. You know, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.880 at first making records, it was fun, man, you know 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.480 what I mean, it really it was, um, it was 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.440 it was an outlet for me. You know, free to 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.320 express however it was I felt that day. And as 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.720 time went on, the ship turned into a business that 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:45.320 turned into another business that's now totally different business. You 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.960 know what I mean. I'm like, bro, I don't really 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.800 want to be a part of this ship. Certain things, 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.000 you know, certain things we want to you know, we 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.160 we're like this right here, this is beautiful. You know 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.440 what I'm saying. All right, yo, ghetto boys and laws 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.920 pro kicking it like beautiful, man, like beautif. I'm glad 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.119 we hear you know what I'm saying. And but it's 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.120 just certain things that the industry board that you know, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.600 I kind of shot away. So that might be what 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.480 it was like, because there was a lot of the 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.680 industry stuff. I was like, that ain't for me. Right there, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.320 I'm I'm gonna do. I got the records in the car. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.920 I'm ready for the turntables. I'm ready to get busy 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.040 in a sense, man, in a sense like like our music, 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.480 like music is now like an n F T. Bro, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.880 because you can't you can't touch it no more, you 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.160 know what I mean. At first we have CDs. Uh, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.440 you can open the ship up. You can read the creatives. Man, 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.039 you can actually physically touch the product, man, But now 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.880 it's like you can't tell. It's just in the atmosphere, 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.400 in the air of the cloud, you know, things like yeah, 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.960 and it caused less than the penity hit this dude ship. Yeah, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.200 Like that's a fucking that. That's a disgrace to humanity 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.120 in my opinion when it comes to the music, bro. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.919 That's why we had in these streets. Man. We was 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:59.720 out there in Austen last night. Yo, um discovered the 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.680 this girl was spitting last night. I'm in there cutting 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.880 the records up. We're doing it like original recipe, favor staff. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.640 You know what I'm saying, Get busy, I'm cutting the 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.520 records up. I got the forty five. I opened the 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.600 mic up, like, yo, who get busy. This girl took 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.200 flight this other dude Like so that's where you know. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.159 And so once I revisited that, I was like, right, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.320 this is what I always want, you know, just the 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.200 party's going out to Germany with these people, you know, 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:31.320 where it's a community man like that. We were out 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.240 here now like we it's not them corporations, it's it's us. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.040 So that's what I was. I think I was waiting 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.520 for that like, so we're here now and it's good. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.279 We tend to rolls up, you know, doing doing what 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.080 we gotta do. Take hippop back. Is that kind of 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.880 like going in full circle? Man, when you think about 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.040 where you started in Queen's New York, absolutely all were 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.679 doing it and it wasn't really about corporations and money. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.800 It was for the love of the art and just 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.159 who got the busy is you know, you gotta you 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.440 gotta remember I grew up in Flushing. That's over there 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.440 by the globe, by the tennis courts and all of 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.680 that where they do um the tennis you know tournaments. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.160 Then now right across the bridge is like Eric being 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.600 rock Kim Kid and playing all of them. So you know, 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.440 it's it's it's like, it's it's these people. It was 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.400 like right there, like I could go down the block 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.920 and see Herbie love Bug count out stacks in front 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.200 of the mall type ship with that red that same 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.080 red ship that he had on and adding a heavy 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.280 D video that red that red whip he had. He 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.240 had that ship down the block from me. So I'm 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.159 seeing that video called I'm like, man, like, so you 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.760 want to do it big? You know, and I was 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:45.720 more reliant on my skills, not on my marketing or nothing. 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.920 I was like, yo, I know if I chopped this, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.520 oh man, we're gonna get him. Man. You hit that 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.360 ship then, my man. And they're like, yeah, oh ship, 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.000 how you get that ship like that? Then we're like, yeah, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.600 we're gonna get So I was more relying on my skills. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.279 And we know, industry ain't about skills. They're about ma 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.240 and y'all brothers, y'all took to you know, y'all took 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.279 the reins, you know what I'm saying. Like we in 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.000 New York, we was more like, yo, go out to 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.480 the city real quick, you know, get with these people 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.280 like the south Board that shipped to the game big time. Like, Yo, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:24.280 we're taking this ship in our own hands and blasting it. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.760 We had to. We did it out of necessity because 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.640 nobody wanted right now from New York to see. That's 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.400 what it was. Y'all was going up to New York 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.560 and it was and it was kind of the same 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.160 for us. So I'm just glad to be, you know, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.000 like doing it how we're doing it. I'm glad that, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.240 you know, I did what I did in the industry, 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.880 and now the proceeds have me in a position where 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.600 I could go out here and spread love to the 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:52.040 hip hop community how we're supposed to and build it 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.880 strong where we you know, just the arts and everybody 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.440 making money, you know, getting busy. So you know, yeah, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.640 I definitely all the way back. Man. I want to 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.520 know who raised you? Oh man, Man, it was a 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:10.360 whole community, man, Like I was born in hallm uh 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.520 who raised me was my mother and father, you know 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.480 what I'm saying. Mother, I always thought she was she 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.080 was born in Queens, but you were born in Hallan 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.920 born in Ham. Yeah. My moms and pops they was 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.360 they was living in Queens and they just so happened 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.600 to be in Halem when you know she went in 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:32.960 the labor But her mother, my grandmother, she lived in 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.600 the building that Big Els standing in front of on 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.240 his album cover DA. So that's Grandma's house right there 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.880 with Big Ell of standing. That's grandma's house. You know. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.760 That's where I was going back and forth from Flushing 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.120 to uptown and so like you you know what I'm saying. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.440 But I had more close you know, proximity. Yo. We 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.640 was good, Like I always getting my uptown you know, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.959 my original because my mom was just from Uptown, my 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.920 pops from Virginia. So you know, it was that dynamic. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.600 You know, I had the sassy my mom's ain't you know, 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.160 like maybe your moms maybe you'll you know what I mean. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.320 Where it was just like, yo, it ain't no joke, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.520 you know what I mean for real, she put it down. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.080 And you know, I think I am who I am 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.160 a lot because of her and my pops. You know, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.200 I got a smooth side to that. My pops are smooth. 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.760 He put a lot of people, like a lot of 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.800 people like he was a messenger dispatcher and so like 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.959 you know, you'd be chilling in the projects. He did 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.120 his thing, you know, smoke a little weed, drink all 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.040 that type ship and you know a lot of like 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.560 my man l E. S who produced produced on like 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.240 you know, he used to you know, like my pops 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.360 used to be in the projects like you know, and 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.439 dudes giving dudes jobs and things like that with the 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.160 messenger dispatching, you know, things like that. So it was 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.800 it was cool because I was always like in the 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.200 communities where I was supposed to be at, like I 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.440 was catching Paul jams, because Flushing ain't really like the hood. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.640 Hood is hood. You know. We got the Globe, we 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.760 got the tennis tournament and all that, you know, city field, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.920 you know, and all that so and this diverse, but 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.640 it ain't like the most hood hood place. But it 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.640 got it hood. It has its hood elements. But I 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.760 was still like, we got the Bland projects. That's where 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.760 my man black sheep dress is from. Hell of a 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.439 golfer too, exactly. So his, his father and my father 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.560 used to hang out back in the days, what I'm saying, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.200 and they had us like together, we're growing up. We're 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.320 here in the park jams and all of that, you know. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.720 So it was a community kind of thing, man. But 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.439 I mean Grandma's grandpops like I had. And now I'm 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.720 even learning more because I thought I came from a 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.920 small family, but now I'm learning more. Man. And the 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.680 people's out in Virginia. Man very prestigious man, very prestigious 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.680 man for real. So you've got siblings I had. I 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.400 had an older system man twelve years older than me, 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.200 and it was like Tom and Jerry like it. My 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.800 my I think my my sticking my chest out is 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.040 a lot because of her, you know what I mean, 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.120 like she she it wasn't no joke, like you know, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.360 she raised me kind of like a pitbull almost like 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.160 it was like because she was like my second mother 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.960 a little bit, you know. And after a while, after all, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.120 you know, I was able to withstand when she was 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.640 sending at me. You know, I mean, I'm going out 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.800 there now, I'm conquering you know, the streets like Nicks 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.840 can't tell me, you know, I'm I'm ready. So you know, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.080 after a while, man, you know, shout out to my 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:40.880 sister Nina. Her name was Lofty times lofty times crazy crazy. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:45.200 My sister used to be shout out to calin man crazy. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.679 I was. I was like, will you you your sister 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:53.280 beat you man? My sister beat anybody I see. I 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.920 see my sister kicked. I see my sister kick this 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.080 dude in his face. I came, I was like, yo, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.040 she so was that ever? That was that ever? You 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.240 know what I mean, liked that was that ever where 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:09.240 where the sisters was just as I mean, they still 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.200 got him, you know, because Megan the Stallion, I don't know, 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:12.520 you know what I mean, Like, I don't know if 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:17.320 you want to around, you know, what exactly, So you 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.679 know they're still around, but at that time there was 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.280 a lot more prevalent and it was like, no, I 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.640 know a few still to this day that who you know, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.360 it's a problem and ship, but they they beautiful women 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.800 to this day. But question what, um, at what point 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.040 in your life did you just fall in love with 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.760 hip hop? Like I love you like that? When did 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.320 you say that to hip hop? Like yeah, when I 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:47.040 you know, it was one thing. I'm just saying, I 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.160 love that. I mean, that's that's that's how you know 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:54.080 about this ship? I love. I love the game, man, 0:12:54.120 --> 0:13:00.240 I love, but I don't like that. I'm melting for man, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.880 because when it comes to music, bro, and putting uh 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.000 instruments where they go, not cluttering this ship up, putting 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.880 them where they go. Man, you know, like it's it's 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.280 it's it's a beautiful thing, bro. It's almost it's probably 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:22.480 the piece of as saying. I'm telling you, man, you made. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:28.280 I was watching Hawaii five Oh in my studio and 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.880 I did a song for the product and the song 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.679 was called shoot. I can't even remember the name of it. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.960 I don't remember, but I'll snap back to me. But 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.360 it had that Hawaii five. Oh, vibe to it. Man, 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.760 It's crazy how you can be watching some ship no 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:51.160 sound but just vibe, man, just the vibe man, na 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:56.400 na it was it was Hawaifi five. I don't know. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.040 I didn't have a sound on. I just had the 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.000 very yours. Well, y'all know that that fat Joe loop 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:08.160 gotta flow Joe, that's her life. Yeah, shout out the 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:14.800 diamond D. That's right there. But man, when when when 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.439 did that? Like? Oh man, well, I think I think 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.240 for all of us, probably it happened even before hipcom 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.680 you know what I'm saying, Like because Marvin Gaye all 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.720 of that. You know, I'm like Tupac like Yo, I 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.480 was rocking. I was rocking all of that. I loved 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.040 all of that. So when hip hop came, it was 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.360 like the Because I always try to explain to people 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.040 like for hip hop with us like me, you know, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.760 Fisher Price turntables and a like Records was like toys 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.680 to us. So now when hip hop came around, like 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.920 remember the Fisher Price turn I mean for real, like 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.520 for real, you know. But so when hip hop came around, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.040 it's like, oh man, that's that like that, you know, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.160 we're touching the record and we're moving to you know, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.320 that kind of thing. And it was like you here 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.640 a grand Master Flash record, and then that you're going 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.160 your parents records and here the record that they use, 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.880 and it's like, oh, that's what they're doing, like okay, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.640 Like and then now you get out there and start 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.640 getting with the you know, the elders like my man 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.800 and the b X, my man, Sergeant Laying Funk. He 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.200 used to put me on the Mad records like and 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.600 get me the stores to go get you know. So 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.400 it was just that that community thing, man, And and 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.280 you have different versions of it. Some people getting you know, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.320 they fall in love with hin themself talk all day 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.000 and fucking wrapped two people all day they you know, 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:39.280 and really we all got some ship to say, though, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.040 he got some ship to say. Y'all better listen every 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:47.960 time that man speak, both of them for real. So 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.280 I mean, you know, it was just basically that man. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.800 It was like, you know, and and because it was 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.360 the birthplace, you know, I'm going uptown. I'm getting the 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.880 real uptown flavor and coming back to Queens, which is 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:06.680 a little bit more I would it's more a little 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.640 more sophisticated you know what I mean, Like you could 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.520 hear some R and B ship uh linked up with 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.320 some hip hop vocals like a blending that was the 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.760 Queen style and like it was. It was just so 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.040 you had them two different worlds together and I was like, yeah, no, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.480 this is for me. And then as a hip hop kid, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.200 breaking drunk graffiti all of that, I went through all 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.080 the channels, you know what I mean. So it was like, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.280 you know, we were here with it. You know, this 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.440 is what we're doing. All right, I'm with it, So 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.600 check this out. When when? When when did the cuts 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:47.040 and scratches come about? Because to me and for me, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.480 when I heard Herbie Hancock due Rocket, you know, that's 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.160 the you know what I mean? And then and then 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.800 the the Hungry like a Wolf was I think the 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:02.440 first sample was the first, like it was something yeah, 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.840 yeah from Duran durand you can't mention music. No, Now 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.680 we didn't talk. I don't know, We're gonna talk a 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.000 little bit, but yeah, I think that was the first 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.600 sample really on the record. Really word but yeah, the 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.760 Herbie Handcock I think was the first because that's when 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.119 I heard it. Yeah, it could could be, but I 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.920 think definitely sugar hell in them was kind of putting it. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.959 They were the backspinning it, you know what I mean, 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.200 Like when when when when we got homework, I'm gonna 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.560 do the home. Let me respond respond with that fact 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.840 the rappers did Light? Was that a backspin? Was that 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.000 a sample? Now? That was a band? Really? Yeah? Rappers 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.640 Delight was a band. Sylvia and them had the band 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.960 up in that. The message was a band. Oh, I 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.680 know that was a drum machine and dudes, you know, like, yeah, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.119 that was a drum machine and dudes playing, you know, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.879 but yeah, no, that was damn it man. Yeah, and 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.160 I'm thinking that that was a Curtis Blow was an 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:03.720 incredible producer as well and sing in sane. You know 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.520 you already know, man, Curtis Blow had one of my 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:14.040 favorite rap songs ever, way back West, from away back East, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.960 coming from the place you'd expect the least that came 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.800 a stranger, just the black from a hall of town 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.360 a long way back like Curtis Blow. Man, YO, give 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.320 me all that job about things you wrote before a 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:34.680 live three. Now I'm the guy named Curtis Blow. And 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.000 Christmas is one thing I know, so every year, just 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.480 about this time, I celebrate it ware the rhyme doing 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:47.520 crazy like so you know it's coming coming from Curtis, 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:55.240 Thank you, Curtis blown like mod and insane inspirations for 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.879 me man. So you know, just hearing them guys like 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.800 hearing their palk tapes, hearing s Ricks park tapes, like 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.440 you know those tapes used to circulate like records. Was 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.800 do you have like early records from Slick Rick before 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.320 he got with Douggete Fresh, No, they were the park tapes, 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.560 him and him and him and Doug like out there 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.920 like in parks, you know what I'm saying, getting busy. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.920 So that was our culture before records. It was like 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.680 you would have like the uh, the cold crushed Forward 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.960 tape with them doing her over, you know, the Billy 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.520 Joel stiletto, you know, and they got routines like things 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.800 that are record ready, but they just doing it in 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.200 the park like they're treating it like a whole show, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.560 you know, and you getting it on tape. It's like 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.840 that so crazy, so crazy that you know, just the 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.440 ingenuity and the thought that went into that, like that's 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.960 something from nothing thing that now we're sitting here, you know, 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.720 it's worldwide. I swear. We go all over the world 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.160 and there's a community, there's a hip hop community that's there. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:03.200 I just went we was in Cologne, Germany. I went 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:10.760 to a fifty cent show out there, arena packed, packed packed, 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.920 they know the words everything. I'm like hip hop man, 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.960 it started. It started in New York bro and and 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:22.640 and and everybody speaks the language. Everybody speaks the hip 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.959 hop language. And that's that's probably the most beautiful thing 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:30.159 about that art man. Everybody around the world speaks And 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:32.720 that's that's why I always say my man m c 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.840 shan is a prophet because he made the song living 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.840 in the World of hip Hop, and he said that, 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.040 he said all all the things that we're doing right now, 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.280 he said that, he said, we're gonna be living in 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.119 the world of hip hop and that's where we at. Man, Like, 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.120 that's the coolest ship you could be as someone who 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.600 hip hop. Like, you know, either your friend you ain't 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.600 gotta be hip hop, but you know you you got 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.159 a friend that you know and you know you know 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:04.480 Wouchane clan, you better know whoch clan. Yeah. Yeah, So 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.200 it's it's you know, if you want to get a 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.160 you know, more go down the rabbit hole and find 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.320 the rest of that. You know. That's what you know. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.000 Everybody know a little something to that. It got a 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.560 new it got in the windows, see through the events 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.600 when um you're being from Queen's Rock San Sean take 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.520 Queens And I got a chance to actually check out 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:35.280 her um movie on Netflix and like Roxane started a 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.280 whole lot of ship in Queens when it came to 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:42.560 hip hop. Absolutely she was on the front line. Shout 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:47.639 to her and and then Nas tell me about the 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:54.000 Nas encounter man, So Nas Nas Nas cool brother from 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.560 queens Bridge, My man Joe Fatal, I know on him, 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:01.080 And Flushing says five five years old, Like we was 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.359 like you know, we was out and rocked the bells 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.000 when him Fader was in there, and yeah, so Fader 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.880 was in there. So I know him since five years old. 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.040 Every something happened where he moved away for a while, 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.000 then like high school days, he just popped back up 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.680 and now he's this long island city Queensbridge dude. And 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.560 I'm like, oh, ship, damn, I ain't seen you in 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.680 the wild, Like you're like, yo, I know, g rap 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:25.359 I know that's when I know that one and I 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.280 was already kind of making beats, so he's like, Yo, 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.520 bring yo, come to this party. Come there. Uh. So 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.439 he started connecting the dots. Then one day he was like, Yo, 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.359 I got this dude, Yo, he's mad nights, I'm telling you, 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.280 you know, because I was reluctant with like I was 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.560 ready to go, like I was already kind of working 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.119 with g rap so I ain't want hit none of 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.160 these sub level you know what I mean, Like I'm 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.159 like dogs, like were you He's all right, man, all right, 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.520 I'm gonna do this with you. Like and so this 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:55.200 was nas you know what I'm saying. We went out 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.000 to Coney Island. We took a damn a system cab 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.600 Like I don't knew you. We used to have cabs 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.400 that used to have the crazy system like y'all had 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.600 to damn your own car and ship. But we used 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.679 to call a cab and get that had a system 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.080 and ship you know, he's Latin brother or whatever and 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.800 ship goose neck ship all that, you know, I mean 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.040 back in the days e Q all that bang. That's 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.040 how we got faking the funk popping and ship because 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:21.879 we used to ride around the system cab with that 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.280 going to the weed spots and ship like that. Just 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.280 listening to that ship blasting, like yo, it's gonna be 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.440 a record, you know. So we took the System cab 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:32.840 out to Coney Island. That ship. I know that ship, 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.960 I don't. I didn't know then, but I know that 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.200 she was a grip because that's miles and miles. So 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.399 we did that, went to this studio named Staring the Sky. 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.359 I made the beat on site and he said the 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.320 rhymes right there, my man. Where was there a few 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:52.840 other people? My man rage um yeah rail um yo. 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.680 So and I was like when I first had and 0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:58.880 after that, I like I said, I was already working 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.040 with g Rap. So we was like Queensbridge and Power 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.920 Place Studios. I got some great stories for y'all two 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.919 about like you know, some of the origins. But um, 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.040 if that involved y'all, you know what I'm saying. Uh So, 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.520 Queen's Bridge is right there and then the studios right there. 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.000 So like late night, if Rock Kilmer g Rap wasn't 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:21.240 coming in, I'll be like, yo, the studio is open, 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.880 come through. You know. After that first session I established 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.359 with him, I'm like, yo, we're gonna work again. And 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.359 so I would be in the lab and I'll be like, yo, 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.719 come through. The lab is open, and be like two 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.439 or three in the morning. His mom's pick up the phone. 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.359 I'll be like, you know ms Jones. She'd be like, oh, 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:41.080 I'm gonna get him up boom and be like yo, yo, 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.359 come up the block right now. Labs open. So you 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.480 know he was He met me halfway with that, and 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.480 that's why he is where he is now at this 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:54.600 at this time, nas is what seventeen, Absolutely, something like seventeen. 0:24:54.760 --> 0:25:00.840 What was the live at the Barbecue the first song 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.119 that you recorded with him that that was from the 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:09.280 Breaking Adams album. Absolutely? Absolutely, yes, sir, Yeah, now wet 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.159 we had love, man, we had love. We didn't do 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.200 many many shows, but we did do a show in 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.200 Houston and we had love out here. It was packed. 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.119 It wasn't like a strip mold kind of spot that 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.480 it was. It was like a corner spot. He was 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:29.480 at the Ryan Stone Wrangler or the Thunderdome or something 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:34.200 like that. What was it ull It was nice. It 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:38.320 was like a grocery exactly, and it was but it 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.679 was the corner joint like it was in the corner here. 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:43.920 It was packed. It was packed, and they in that 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.920 front door joint was they joint? That was they joined. 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:48.840 They was cool with the other ones. But they in 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.280 barbe Q two where you heard a seventeen year old 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:56.360 Nas speaking on that track, what's your first impression? Well, 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.240 I already knew he was ill and out of the ordinary, 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.080 because you know, you're here dudes rhyme cat and Hat. 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.920 You know, he's like cat and arafat, you know what 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:09.200 I mean? Like that You're like, oh, okay, you know 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.520 what I mean. So I already knew it was. It 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.560 was just like what is he gonna say now? That 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.840 kind of thing, because we had a couple of renditions 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:18.359 of the song that were trying to get together. But 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.359 then when we was like it was go time, it 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.359 was like and so when we heard it, it was 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.119 you know, he delivered, man, it was it was I 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:29.320 think Nas may have. I mean, because there are a 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.960 couple of people all this earlier that have, but I 0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:39.159 think he kind of re rejuvenated, like shock rap, like 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.840 that ship that's like what did that nigga say? Yeah, 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:47.080 like what huh? Let me bring that back? Like I 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.560 think after that, like eminem kind of you know what 0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.800 I'm saying kind of follow suit with like a lot 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.119 of shock rap, like just ship that shocked you that 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.720 the Nickel would say on the mic. You're like, huh, 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.720 let me rewind that what I'm saying. And then it 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.720 becomes a norm. No, now it's like the norm. It's 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.879 like now that ain't shock rap no more. That's just 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.000 the norm. That's just how we're speaking now. So it's 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.680 a beautiful thing man, that you know he had he 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.800 had a lot of you know, and then I didn't 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.680 know as much about his father, but but he had 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:22.240 a legacy exactly, so he already had that in his bloodline. 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.000 So you know, he just applied it to wrap you know, 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.440 which is a beautiful you know, and that's why he 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.840 is with no much success world? How did how did 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.280 you foster that relationship with man? So it's that was 0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.720 a high school thing. That was like kids getting busy. 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.119 I still got that spirit too, you know you hear me, Man, 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:40.879 I'm like, yeall got the records in the car, like 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.400 where's the turntables? Like that was my thing. So after 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.040 school we jet over their house or whatever. You know. 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:51.200 Their moms was like really, I mean I had my turntables. 0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:52.919 I had my things, but you know, we jet over 0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.359 their house. You know, their moms was like really like 0:27:56.560 --> 0:28:00.719 in the beginning, she was really inviting, really supportive, like no, yo, 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.760 y'all come over here, y'all do your work and I 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.120 want to hear it, and you know that kind of thing. 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.840 So you know, I'll go over there and after schools. 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.119 It's funny because Shae Stadium City Field, like where I 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:18.320 was working, they their their window looked straight at City Field, like, 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.400 you know, because that's the Flushing Corona area right there, 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.359 Like g rappers right there, Corona, like all of them. 0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.879 So it was that it was just a lot of 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.720 good vibes and you know, things going on. So we 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.960 was able to like put it out there to the 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.480 world musically and ship. But it was like a high 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.960 school thing. No dudes just getting up after high school 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:42.560 on some wrap, watch the watch the videos. You know 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.200 what I'm saying, Do a little scratch and take some 0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.600 flicks for the chicks. You know that type of thing. 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.800 Man did I man yo during those times. And and 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.920 I'll tell you one thing, man, while we were recording 0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:01.120 Wanted Dead or Alive, I listened to a lot of 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:11.840 ghetto boys. Bro really and g Wraps call word up man, 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.800 like we was listening to y'all. We was listening to 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.960 y'all and to que because I always remember the line 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.160 because I always said I want to use that ship 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.280 as a scratch. And I think it was Bill God 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.520 bless Yo. I think he was like, some of y'all 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.680 niggas are bitches too. I wrote that. Well he did 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:36.600 right there, I said, will I know? I said, Bill, Yeah, Bill. 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:43.360 Bill said it sounds like, yo, that ship that one line, 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:47.320 some of you niggas are bitches too, Yo that ship 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.680 something about that one. And g Rap used to play 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.680 that album and for and that one line used always 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.240 like and I was like, Yo, now these brothers is 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.680 ill and que. He listened to a lot of Cube 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:05.120 while we was McCoy and word ice Cube is a 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.720 class act too, man. So g Rap and I got 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.320 to hanging out in New York um and we became 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:18.240 tight man. And he was like a big gass influence, 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.479 you know what I mean, from from listening to uh, 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.640 you should stand on the block, selling cooked up rocks, 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.720 busting out my socks and a really good clock. That 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:33.040 was all kind of things, bringing Jackison, jeans, magazines, anything 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.520 just hustle of being he was. He was what I 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.640 had was bad from my shoes to and the first 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:46.080 time in my life, dadrazy man, I love it man, 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:51.479 It's yeah, I love it, bro. Yeah, you work with Molly, yo. 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.600 Molly gave me my first check, you know. Molly gave 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.760 me my first check for doing the stuff I did. 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.719 Uh gave me my friends. Not to cut you off, man, 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.200 but only game my first check on production. You know, man, 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.120 One thing that I've been hearing about Marley I never met. 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:07.840 I don't think I haven't met Molly. But one thing 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.200 I always hear about him is that you're afraid to 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:15.520 break bread. Oh no, because his his cup runneth over. 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.040 Like you know why. You know why, because Molly got 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:24.640 the motherfucking skills. Molly got them skills. Molly touched the 0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:30.320 fucking machine and this money every fucking time. Man, Molly 0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.520 got them skills. And like me, like he gets busy, man, 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:37.200 Molly just be dj and for nothing, just getting busy. 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.560 And that's that spirit. So his cup gonna running over 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.080 for forever. So it ain't nothing for that man to get, 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.720 you know, lose something something though for this because his 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:50.080 cup gonna he got them skills. That's that's why I 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.600 want following that. He's like, YO, any year, any time, 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.080 like Yo, what you got? You know, they won't hit 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.080 me with the O G ship now, they won't hit 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.880 me with now and all that ship. But when they're like, 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.280 oh ship, you know, we want to pull me to 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.520 the side now like oh shine you know, and things 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.680 like that. So you know we're still standing. Man, I 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.959 didn't think this. I never foresaw this time frame happening 0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.480 where it's like you're gonna be doing this and be 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.240 this person in this, you know. So now I'm just 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.040 kind of standing up like for like, I just want 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.760 us to always be able to party New York style, 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.000 like Park style, have some records. You know what I'm saying, 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.560 like get funky, if face more, if well won't pick 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:38.200 up the mike. Absolutely I will always encourage that. You 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.200 know what I'm saying that just drop a gem on him, 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.160 break out, you know what I'm saying, jump in the 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.080 fly ship. You know what I'm saying. Practice I might 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.400 have practiced, but will yeah, I'm sure. But that that's 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.200 that's that's where you know, like last night in Austin, 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.360 it was that kind of thing and it pleads my heart. 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.920 Ain't nobody know what nobody was gonna say, even though 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.960 you know we did the show ed O g was 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.560 dead big up. That's my dog right now. So you know, 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.120 he puts some gems out there, you know. So that's 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.760 where I think us as artists, like you know, we 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.120 we want to give him. You know, we won't give 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.400 him that like I we got the arenas we got, 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.840 but we won't give him that that that Marvin Gay cover, 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.200 Marvin Gay cover, the uh I want you to cover 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.040 with all the people dancing and ship like that and 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.360 it's the boarding ship and yeah, that's what we want, 0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.360 you know. Was l L was l L already big 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.960 at that time. He was huge. He was already big. 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:43.480 Huhvous as that to be nineties the nineties nineties, it 0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:48.440 was already no, oh yeah, L was that was had 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:53.600 ninety aready No I'm talking. I'm talking about this is 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.000 where I'm at right now. He shout out, my man 0:33:58.120 --> 0:33:59.880 shot to page. I'll sitting in the call with my 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.880 man shot you page. He played me some old Paul 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:12.560 jam sh l Tennis niggaup damn oh l Tenny. I'm like, 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.800 oh ship, I had to jump on Instagram and I 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:17.960 didn't know what he posted or nothing. I'm just like, yo, 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.719 I heard this tape L like YO had to comment, man, yo, 0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.040 not L being a beast man like shout out Dr Butcher, 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.160 like all Original Crew, Royal Rich, all of them, man 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.279 like Mikey d all of them dudes. Man, L been 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.720 a beast man and he just took the reins early 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.120 man like he he'd been a beast on the microphone 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.759 man like from one man. Yeahah, when I heard that 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.840 Paul jam ship, that was solidified, because you know, you 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.959 want to hear that. That's why I'm like, I feel 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.200 like I gotta do you know. I kind of went 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.359 straight to doing records and ship. It was like, Yo, 0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.640 we're your Paul Jam m looms and ship like that, 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.520 like so you know, I gotta get that in now, 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.399 Like Yo, we're doing it, but we're doing it big, 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.719 you know, so I do it like that. But L 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.200 like when I heard that Paul Jam ship, I was like, man, 0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.279 so that's some ship that never made that nowhere. Now. 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.160 I was that was streaked ship that you know, dudes 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.440 just got circulating around and I was like, man, yeah, 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.560 not sat you page. We were good. And then there's 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.719 there's my man. I can't think of his name right now, 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.200 but he's the tape master. He got all that ship man, 0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.640 all of them a little like Bis and Red Man 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:27.360 a Farmers and all that. Yeah, we're much love to 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:33.000 be hell too. Absolutely man Funky is held like I 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:38.759 gotta beat from U Biz before he left, and I 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.960 want to record it. But this is this is big 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:46.239 with me because Biz Biz always like Bis business like 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.799 so Biz always. He said, like, Yo, I'm the one 0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.520 that brought you out, like because you know I met 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:57.800 Bi my, my my mentor, my mentor, Paul C. He 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.200 let me his drum machine for like two weeks. He 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.759 was he was, he was already he was working with Latifa, 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:10.160 he was working with Ultramagnetic. Yes, yes, sir. So he 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:13.239 lent me the sp and I'll beat it out for 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.320 like two weeks. He came back, got the machine. He 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.319 was like, Yo, let me let me slide with these disks. 0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.000 You know, like I ain't got no machine, but you 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:22.719 know he's taking the machine, so like, yo, let me 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:26.200 slide with you this No but no, but I ain't 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.319 got no machine no more because he's taking that ship back. 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.000 He lent it to me. So he's taking it back 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:31.919 now and he's like, yo, let me take the dish too. 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.120 So he got back to the studio. He plays the 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.960 beat for bids. He played one of my beats for bits. 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.200 It was just Bob Mauley joint. I had um um 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.960 the uh the um. It's funny because you pulled up. 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.520 So it was the Bob Mauley was the joint called Uh, 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:54.759 I don't know if it was cornerstone. Yeah, the the 0:36:54.920 --> 0:37:00.640 cornerstone joint. Uh. The builder will be the head cone. 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:05.040 The stone that the build a refuse will always be 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:11.640 the head cornerstone. Man, I need to hear that. It's 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:17.839 hell yeah, the stone that we're using the boomdocks right, 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:24.880 the stonege the head cornerstone. That's the Bob Marley joints. 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.920 It may you know have earlier, but um, yeah, it 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.080 was the Ball Mauley joint and bars. You know. My 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.800 man Paul called me. He was like, Yo, come to 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.760 the studio right now. Man. I'm like, all right, boom 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:36.440 to get on the bus and should I had to 0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.359 walk man oh types of ship. It was crazy went 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:43.600 there is right there? Yo, you made that Bess just 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.920 funcky y'all listen to what we listen to what we 0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:51.400 and they was working on fucking just a Friend. He 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.600 played me just a friend that day he played me 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.440 the mud for ship, all that ship. So I was 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.480 like inducted. I was like, oh shoot, I'm saying with busy. 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.320 They asking me how I feel about the ship and everything. 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.359 They're like, how you like that? I'm like, no, that's 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.480 that's ill. So I'm like, you know, got Chelsea do? 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.399 And after that he's like, yo, how you get old? 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.160 I'm like, get on the bus. He's like, now, come 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.279 with me. Man getting a small gray maximum and she 0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.440 got the fucking system is going crazy all through the street. 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.480 People like this. But we go to the Colosseum. They 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:25.799 got the shirt kings downstairs, everybody bis been. He takes 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.759 me back the flushing and ship everybody, Yo, who ship? 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.880 He come upstairs? Meet my Mom's the whole man. It 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.880 was crazy man. Bears Man, God, bless you bear Man, 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:40.560 love you man. This man before we go to let's 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:46.640 go back to policy possi. Uh it's this little known 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:52.160 genius people that no no right. Paul worked with a 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:55.560 lot of artists from back in the gap, and but 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:59.920 he meant an early demise. Uh what was Paul I? 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:05.800 Twenty four years old and he died under tragic circumstances? 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.680 Did they ever find out, you know, why he was killed? 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.719 But they didn't. They arrest somebody they had. He was 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:18.480 actually one of the episodes of America's Most Want It 0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.920 was actually New York Most Wanted. It was New York's 0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:25.560 Most Wanted. Man. I wish, man, I wish, you know, 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:31.200 just you know, they're they're speculations of suspects and you know, 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.760 but I think somebody did. I don't know, but it's 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.480 just like they made they made I know they heard 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.839 that they made a couple of arrests, and I don't 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.360 know whatever happened to it because it just was not 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.799 something that was that was put out there to begin with, right, Yeah, 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.520 but that was tragic. Man. I would really like to 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:54.920 see what he was, yeah, man, and and so gifted, 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:56.520 and he was working with a lot of people, he 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.680 was doing a lot and so unique to be a 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.520 dude doing this, man, and to be so funky man 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.759 like it was it was like man like, you know, 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:09.759 it was almost I don't know, man, I don't want 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.600 to say nothing spiritually, man, but you know, God blessed man, 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.840 my man Paul, So I have a production company to 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:20.840 this day. I dedicated to him poule C Productions instead 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.920 of the letter C is S E A because we 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:29.239 both liked, uh, we liked Alan Toussaint and Marshall C. Horn, 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.919 the producers for the Meters, and that was a black 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.800 dude and a white dude, you know, working together. So 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:40.040 I made it Paul C s E A because Marshall C. 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:44.439 Horn and Allan Toussaint always did funny ways with their 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.440 publishing companies or what is to C C two and 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.560 things like that, So I did Paul C. You know, 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.040 from a production company man too, And now we're here 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.120 with Mad Productions man, and um it's all under poll C. 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:02.279 So definitely they were questioning a lot of people, I know, 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.279 they they questioned a whole lot of people from it. 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.200 They they, I mean, they really was seeing I ain't. 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.200 I think that was probably the most investigated. The big, 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:17.399 big Big. Maybe the big Big might be more big Big, 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.560 might be a little bit more. I mean, but damn 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.400 they ain't. They still ain't come up with nothing for 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.000 neither one of them. I think the big thing was 0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.239 more like Yo, let's just do this because let's put 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:28.640 our name in the book so I can write this 0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.120 book or whatever. I don't think they were ever serious 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.160 about trying to starve a big murder, because if they 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.400 wanted to, they would have done it, the same thing 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.600 with Pop they wanted to, they could have done it. Yeah, 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.000 they can find a man and a whole clear across 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.480 the globe exact, could have found out who did that 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.280 in the desert exactly what you know with that yellow 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:53.919 journalism man, Ever since I learned that term man, man, 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.600 that's when they just put the paper out and they 0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.000 just tell you whatever the funk they want to tell you, 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.799 and you don't know fucking ben Loud and even really 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.279 exists and ship like that. Like I'm serious, man, I'm 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.320 I've been skeptical of all of that ship man since 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.400 ever since I learned that learned that term though. It's like, 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.200 I don't, I don't mess with that ship man, I don't, 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.840 I know you, you know you, But you got a 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.359 nice radar on all of that, man, So you could 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.080 speak on it, man, and my man Lord j to 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.960 Lord Jamal, he he'd be speaking on it, you know 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:30.040 a lot. So look absolutely so you know it's it's 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.239 a beautiful thing. We need brothers like y'all, you know 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.880 what I'm saying. And then after y'all get that lesson 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.759 and should come get that musical blessing you know me, 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.359 and then you know we're gonna think, Yo, all of that. Man, 0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.879 just get busy, man, like we wortered this earth. Man, 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.360 this is our ship. Man, like Swan said, this is 0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:52.879 for us. You know about dot Com named you as 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:59.880 the number thirteen produce it in hip hop history? Wowte best. Uh. 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:04.360 Now that's on a list of top and then the 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.359 greater list. That's halfway almost, that's almost halfway and that's 0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:11.200 the greater list. Is like everybody right, Uh, what do 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:12.960 you think about that on it? Or? Is it an 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.040 honor to year? Yes? I don't mean it's cool just 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.200 to even be on the list, man, And to you know, 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.680 I took this likeness, this name laws professor, you know, 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.200 sticking my chest out, you know, talking that ship on 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:28.600 the mic and all of that ship and put it 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.160 out here in the world. And now it's on the 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.680 list somewhere. So yo, man, I I'm I'm with it. Man. 0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.600 Anybody on that list you think you should be a 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:41.080 hit of mad dudes mad that's that's that's really popping. 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.759 But look, man, we got we got we got the list. 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:54.560 Let's go to about dot com uh best hip hop producers. 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.399 So I mean you've got different categories of it though, 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.880 so and I'm accepting of that. Is that you know, 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:05.440 you got boomed back, you got trapped, draill all of that. 0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.239 So I played my part man on the you know, 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.560 on the boom back failed fore front, and I'm like, yo, 0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:17.240 we're good, man, Like just started from you know, started 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.160 from the bottom. Now we're here, yeah for real, man, 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:24.000 Like this is being tape recorded. Man, people are gonna 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.680 see this, man Like, that's what we wanted, you know, 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:30.239 just to put our likeness out there and the art man. 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:35.359 So I'm I'm grateful not not to be labor the point, 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.840 but I really want to know how you feel, you know, 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.600 about your status in the game with all that you 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.080 brought to the game. I really want to know how 0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.959 you feel, like deep ones side, how you really feel 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.560 political career. Absolutely, you want to know really how you 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:57.320 feel somebody who's given so much right. I feel excited 0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:02.279 because I've always been like now I need to put 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.520 in more work I need to put in more work, 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.680 like I need to put in more work. And now, 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:09.360 you know, I mean, I don't know if it's too 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.520 you know, I don't know what's going on. But I 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:15.759 now feel like, all right, all right, And I've been 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.920 saying that a lot lately to people, the work is in, 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.000 the work is in. I've been saying that a lot lately. 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.279 I've been saying stay close, and the work is in 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:27.080 a lot lately. But yeah, the work is in. And 0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:32.480 so I feel good, man, because the community now is 0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.640 not and it's it's not an industry community. It's just 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:42.239 a natural like the Internet, technology has it fun. The 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.720 industry shipped up, you know, the industry had a hold 0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.719 on like oh no, you can't, you know, And it's 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.400 like the Internet just like now you're gonna see whatever 0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.239 you're interested in and if you if that man get 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.200 his you know, ship popping like that, and you're gonna 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.839 see it like it's gonna go viral whatever. So that's 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.239 what I'm loving. That's what I think is part of 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.600 the reason why I'm like I'm excited now because like 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.640 the Internet, like all right, you put remember I'm skill driven, 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.200 I'm I'm I'm I'm based on that's the first song. 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:15.160 I can't based on skill, that's the first. Like when 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:18.600 I made my little tapes and ship, I had concentration 0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:22.960 on work and I had based on skill. And that's 0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:24.800 my ship now. So I'm like, you know, if you 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.080 look at my I g all I'm doing is just 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:31.200 putting up records ship like that people. You know, it's 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.600 a small community now, but it's gonna grow. I'm taking 0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:38.759 all these records from America, American history, sucking them up 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.520 like twist them up on some hip hop ship, making 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.800 them translating to some hip hop ship, and people was 0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.799 getting it, and you know, it's growing worldwide and that's 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.680 what I'm loving. So I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited. The 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:55.600 god rock can't Rock Cam. He was somebody that keeps 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:59.880 collaborating with a few times now. Rock Kim has a 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.480 mythical type aura about it, mystique, right, Yeah, I mean 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.759 he's like he's a very down to earth, humble guy. 0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:14.239 But yeah, you don't allow too much access to himself. Uh, 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.400 give us a story. I think I think that I 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:21.120 think that's double edge. And he said that just recently, 0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.920 that that that was double edged about him because the 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:29.000 industry started turning into like everyone coming together and like yo, 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.560 we collaboro and all of that. And you know, at 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.279 that time, he was just a stand alone dude and 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.120 dudes were just like you know, he was always approachable 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.040 and the God always show love. But just on the 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.480 artist tip. It was just like a one of one, 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:47.719 like stand alone type. But um man, yo, rock kim Man, Man, 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.480 give us give us one of them stories about Rock him, 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:53.760 because we don't really have stories about Rockets. What style, 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:57.040 like what some crazy something? I mean because the god, 0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:00.160 that's that's the god. Like maybe something happened in the 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.680 studio or he gave you a car one day that 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:08.640 you ain't will never forget. All right, oh man, One 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:12.200 time we were in the lab. I think he was 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:16.680 working on his solo joints. It wasn't it could have 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:18.440 been every being rocking. I don't, I don't know. But 0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.600 we was in the lab in the city and uh 0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.920 I had my man Land with me and lan Lane. 0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.640 We was cool. And Ship he knew Rock him from 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:30.479 when when I was working with him. This is after 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.640 all the work was in from that time. Now we 0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:34.600 got another time we're working with him and Ship we're 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.879 gonna see him. Oh man Land with me and ship 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:40.480 were chilling, rock him, embracing him. You know, they clicked 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.440 up and ships everybody smoking weed, chilling whatever. So my 0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:47.880 man Lane he going downstairs and ship go to store whatever. 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.279 He coming back upstairs, got this girl or whatever. He 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.799 got some girl with him, might have been two or whatever. 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.320 Wanted two girls and ship Russian chick. I guess he 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:01.680 told her downstairs like Man, I got rock Himmel. No 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:06.560 Ra allowed it. So now the chicks is in there. 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.320 That's the end of the story. I go. You know, 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.520 I ain't gonna say nothing else. Man, I ain't gonna 0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:18.040 say nothing else. Man, it was why now I'll tell you. 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.680 I'll tell you this. I'm i'm, i'm, I'm. I'm gonna 0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:23.160 block out one part and go to this. I'm gonna 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.759 go to this right here. So my man Land right 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.239 now to check like one of them. I guess it was. 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:32.239 I don't know, Oh man Land, try to, you know, 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:34.800 because it was trying. You know, everybody was trying to 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.080 do their little studio thing at the time, Like you 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.200 know we're talking earlier about to you know, pull a 0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.359 seat back in the g type ship. No they're trying 0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:46.080 to do their studio thing, right, so you know the 0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.680 chick just come up. No no, no, no rock him 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:58.640 Rocky not you rock not not who my manly man, Right, 0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:07.440 that's what you're saying. Yeah, we was all laughing then. 0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.719 You know it was crazy man, Yeah, you know it 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:12.560 was It was crazy. It was crazy. It was some 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.560 wild ship. It was some wild ship. Uh you know 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:19.239 for a studio session. We didn't supposed to be doing music. Yeah, 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:27.480 happens should be happening. Work with tribe call Quest oh man, yeah, man, 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:31.840 honorable brother Q Tip, oh man, Yo, that's that like 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:35.520 to be involved with a brother that you know Q 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:39.520 Tip with brothers actually. But I was like, you know 0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.040 because we had so many similarities on me and my 0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.560 man Q Tip, Like we're both to every ship and 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.839 using same records and all this, you know wild ship 0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.480 we found out about the other each other whatever and ship. 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.560 So it's like wow, man, like yo, we got a 0:50:55.600 --> 0:51:00.640 lot in common. Start rocking like dogs man, that the 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:05.080 records that they put the world onto, that the world 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:11.080 still reverves through their music like artists. Now, like this 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:14.960 is like a portal, man, this is like them dudes. 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.440 Was like you know, even their album covered with all 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.480 the faces on. You know what I'm saying. They were 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.200 like a portal for like hip hop man and to 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:25.279 this day man, like you know, I reach out to 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.239 Tip Man. He just recently rocked on a song that 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.840 I have my Mannique the Exotic. He was on faking 0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.640 the funk with me. Um. We just did a project 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.080 called Extra Exotic, so q Tip came through on that. 0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:39.000 We did a joint co qu I talked to him 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:40.480 here and there, you know what I mean, like he 0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:44.000 he out there, Man, that that's a that man has, 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.600 you know, put the world onto something, you know, and 0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:49.640 just trial Man brought just such a great vibe man, 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.440 and just for me to get a shout out and 0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:54.600 to like do a track for them, you know, it 0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:56.959 was just like an honor man like them. Them dudes 0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:02.759 was already going and we clicked up. They got greater better, 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.600 you know when they kept going and getting great at 0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:11.319 your incredible man, incredible experience. My um. Okay, So when 0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:13.960 the Midnight I've been on tripic call question since um 0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:19.919 the low End theory, but when the Midnight Marauders came out, 0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.799 I was smoking. We really really really a body. Everybody 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:29.000 at that time, and I had an eighth fifty what 0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:33.680 color black? Okay, had an eight fifty with two fifteens 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:36.960 and all it like it was done up like professional sound. 0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:38.960 You remember that. You remember that with that here's talking 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:44.000 about right there with black joint. You had a black 0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:49.239 I love this. A couple of dynamic y'all got man, 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:53.680 I love it, man, And every day call you, no doubt, 0:52:55.480 --> 0:53:01.360 make big money, Big calls him man. All right, so 0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:08.120 you're fifty man and riding. Molly had the red one. Yeah, 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.480 everybody in the bridge like man. Prince had a purple one, 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:13.560 I mean a yellow one. You remember that. Willie went 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:16.200 the Princess of Yeah, you went to that compound. I 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.400 went to that compound. He had a yellow eight fifty 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:20.600 with purple seats in it. I went to that compound. 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:24.439 He clowned Tevin Campbell, Chris came to a ghetto boys 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:28.920 show show? Did he? Sure? Did? Two? We had to. 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:35.319 We played two shows at glam and I was out 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.839 there with Rice was in the back and the singing 0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.080 every word. And Prince went and Willy said, they go 0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:43.520 Prince up at the top and people look back, and 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:48.879 Prince did this, and big dude hauled him out real ship. 0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:51.520 All right, you said chial cold question. So I'm wait, 0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:55.120 let me finish. William't cut me off no more. So 0:53:55.280 --> 0:54:00.600 I'm in that, bitch man, let's go. So hit the weed, 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:04.880 right and this is this is my partner is coming 0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:09.879 down from uh Oakland nice and they're bringing that. They're 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:12.640 bringing that weed that's rolled up like you wouldn't believe. 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.680 So I fired up the square man. I go to 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.799 the record so I'm high as fuck. I pick up 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:22.680 the Midnight maraudas bro and that'ship so fucking how do 0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:35.080 I put it in the cranky Doom Doom? Yeah? Blown 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:42.400 the fuck? Yeah, oh way. Yeah. To this day, that 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:48.000 is my favorite tribe called quest album because of the experience, 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:51.160 like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. 0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:54.480 That's like a game Star joint. Yeah where you were where? 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:57.080 Yeah you remember? I remember that ship like it was 0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:00.960 this morning. I was high as fuck and that song 0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:07.399 came on, yeah, and I was just drove. Yo tip 0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.600 throw the Brethren Jones behind the Ronnie Forrester guard man, 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:21.520 Yo shoever you are tip tip to ghetto boys. Yeah 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:28.920 know that your tip throw the Brethren behind yo bro man. 0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:31.600 Now that's a fly guy man. All right. So y'all 0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:33.920 told the Prince story. So I'm riding the Jersey, go 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:36.319 get some records with this dude. There was just diner man. 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:38.920 This dude. I found out, my man, Charlie, there was 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:41.600 a diner. My bad. I'm gonna rambler. So there's this 0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:45.759 diner man to dude, white guy man, Yo, tough, tough guy. 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.360 Tough guy. He's a tough guy, short too man, but 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.800 tough like what you want type ship. So we're in, 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.120 they're getting records. He's showing us love doing it like 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:59.280 we so borm. We're driving over there. Ship fucking phone 0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:02.120 ranging ship he talking and ship like yo, Prince with 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:05.040 up man like I don't want to speak of ship. 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:08.719 I'm like, oh, okay, I had a good Prince moment 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:14.720 for you. Okay. So Prince Londale and Q two. Londale 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:19.279 and Prince were together and Londale was representing me and 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.680 Lindale made me let me meet Prince man and he 0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:26.840 told my name or whatever. He said, hello, brand, that's crazy, 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:31.000 and then he said tip and they went to the back. 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:36.680 All right, all right, all right, all right, well okay, 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:40.279 well fly guy Q Tip my brother. I love man 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:47.600 comal the abstract. So I'm with the family Christmas Day chilling. 0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:51.160 We're chilling, you know what I'm saying, family, extended family, everybody. 0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:54.560 You know. He called me up, yo, I'm coming, I'm 0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.480 coming through. I'm coming through, all right, cool? You know 0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:00.200 because he I moved out to Jamaica. He had just 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.040 left it. You you know, so like, Yo're go and 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.040 visit Marvs and I'm gonna come through. Come to the 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.640 back doorship, opened the door and ship got Jannie Jackson 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:16.520 with him. I'm like, come in. What was he doing 0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:21.880 with Jenny? Man? Bro? They were just hanging out there? 0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.880 Just want to man. It was in the movie together 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:26.920 on the table. Bro. They was in the movie together. 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:29.640 Quane minds want to know you got Jannie Jackson? What 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:34.760 you're doing with them? Said? You didn't say? Johnny gets 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:38.200 Tall Wahsington was from over there, man fifth Ward man hard. 0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:46.760 It's hard, It's hard. I don't know what Jennie. Where 0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.560 is Johnny? We can't be canceled. I think Johnny get 0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.040 Tard Washson might be young. Galveston is a Galviston. That's 0:57:53.120 --> 0:58:00.760 that's a very white right right right? Good? So no 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:08.800 now like Queens, the the ependyme like the start of it, 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:12.880 and in our opinion down here was run DMC. That's 0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:17.240 when we first heard about Yeah, somebody's just saying Queens 0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:21.560 loud and proud. Yeah, absolutely, Kings from Queens. From Queens 0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:28.280 comes Kings. Fifth Ward. They don't say no fifth Ward. 0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:36.600 Oh really the King from Queens, from Queens comes Kings. Yeah, Houston, Texas, 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:43.400 but it don't say no, Yes, sir, I see all right, 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:51.480 fifth board. So that's that's shout south the Fifth War. 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.520 How about that? Did you ever get a chance to 0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:56.200 work with run DMC or talk to them and hang 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.920 out with them? Me and and D Me and D 0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:01.560 is like I'm young Brol because I was like the 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.600 second dude to come out with glasses from Queens. So 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:07.560 I was inducted in that way. So you know, we 0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:11.840 got that camaraderie like that. But um nah, man, I 0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:13.960 didn't get to I ain't get not yet, not yet, 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.240 because them brothers are still credible and I know they 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:19.720 could pulla that's my mission these days. Yeah, because um, 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:23.080 I just recently gave a beat the Grandmaster cast like 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:26.520 one of the yeah, the originator, like it is rapture 0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:29.360 so I'm kind of going in different ways with who 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.520 I want to work with and and and things that 0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:33.960 I think people you know. So yeah, man, we know 0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:35.760 all of that. Man, we might still be able to 0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:38.120 do that with running them. Man for real. I walked 0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:43.720 out the a loft in Harlem. Oh yeah yeah, right yeah, 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:47.040 and on the block. Who do I see cool Mo 0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:50.320 d No but he was from right down the block. Yeah, 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.920 comment and all that right there. Yeah, and man, that 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.360 was like wow, that was that was a hip hop 0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.080 wild moment. Yeah. And Doug Doug live right up the 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:03.000 block first, right up the block from there. Yeah. Hell yeah. 1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:05.919 So man, I get I get I get birthday calls 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:09.880 from O D. I get Ice Yeah when he heard 1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:11.880 I got sick, man, I got calls from my beat 1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:14.520 and when when I got my transplain you know, check 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:17.920 on me like like tips, Like yeah, that's a beautiful 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:21.160 damn man. To have people that you grew up listening 1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:24.440 to to be your friend like l L, like you know, 1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:28.520 l L. Hit me up a cube, you know, text cube, 1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:34.240 and like these are my people. Ice team Man, ice Man, Yeah, 1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.000 Ice Man Man. I did an art I did an 1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:42.080 art exhibit with Ice Man. We did a show called lyrics. 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:45.720 It was me Ice, and so it was like the 1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:47.720 dude do a painting or whatever. We just write the 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.240 lyrics over the painting. And you know, it was cool 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:54.320 with me Ice, Cool, Keith Smooth, the hustler. A few 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:56.680 of us were. That was just recently, no, and I 1:00:56.760 --> 1:00:59.600 was a few years ago because Chuck just told me 1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:01.840 he was with iced Tea and some kind of art 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:05.280 thing that was branching out. So that, yeah, that was 1:01:05.320 --> 1:01:08.920 a cool experience. Man. That's that's the to what he 1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:11.640 say is to real o G. It was he's the 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:16.440 He's the O G tle. I'm o G realie double 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:20.400 o G. So iced ta gotta be triple o G. Whatever. 1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:23.880 The motherucking you ain't that you ain't old yet. It 1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:30.680 ain't gotta be flavor flamel than you experienced ex experience. 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:38.880 So iced t nobody reckless. Got a song called reckless Man, 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:41.440 and people didn't know that was iced tea. That's iced tea, right, 1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:45.680 reckless reckless. I don't I can't think of that right now. 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:51.800 I know a DJ's task was just to play records. 1:01:52.000 --> 1:01:54.480 When more could you ask that first record? You're talking 1:01:54.520 --> 1:01:57.560 about mixes, scratches and cuts, when you're talking about that 1:01:57.680 --> 1:02:01.080 first record, Reckless. Yeah, they just sently. I think they 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.600 had them on the series that Cash actually was hosting 1:02:04.760 --> 1:02:07.720 and they yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. It's it's 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:10.320 like with the b Boys or something like that was 1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:14.000 with the Breaking Up. Ye see, it's from like New 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:19.880 Jersey or absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Man, You've been with a 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:22.120 lot of records. Man, You've done a lot of business 1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:24.880 with a whole lot of people. Yeah. You ever thought 1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:28.560 about being an executive? Yo, I'm doing that now, man. 1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:31.440 I mean I know people were like, yo, words, you're 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:33.240 gonna do that now. I'm like, yeah, man, I'm gonna 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:35.240 do that now. I got a good team around me. 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:39.720 It's industry free. All that bitch ass industry ship ain't 1:02:39.760 --> 1:02:42.240 nowhere around me. Man. I got Gorillage next to me. 1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:45.080 That's fucking tanning up the road. We was just in Denver, 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:49.760 all over the place. She fucking Oakland del Dell came out. 1:02:49.880 --> 1:02:52.720 It was like, you know, yo, Dell, don't never Dell, 1:02:52.760 --> 1:02:56.240 don't never pop out for people. You already know when 1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:59.040 I was out there with High Road, you know what 1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:00.760 I mean. Like, so we just hand up the road 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.440 with you know, with the respected artists that we know 1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:06.120 from our ever, from the new era, all of that, man, 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:08.800 And I don't know what just made to click, man, 1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:11.360 but just more than ever now it's like, you know, 1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:15.080 so I'm kind of doing that now, man, Like you know, 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:17.680 to some it may be late, but we're working with 1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:20.360 a lot of times. So you know, it's still a 1:03:20.400 --> 1:03:24.120 lot of talent to scale, man, based on scale brothers, 1:03:24.680 --> 1:03:30.080 based on the experience and and and and the respect 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:32.880 and so it shouldn't be hard for you to make 1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:37.080 the moves and you got to connect absolutely do whatever 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:40.080 you want to do at that man. So what's next? Yo? Man? 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:43.840 We got this up down south up top project with 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:46.439 my man Royal. Why this man, he's actually the brother 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:48.440 He reached out to eight King. He was like, Yo, 1:03:48.520 --> 1:03:51.080 while we're out here, man, you gotta go see the brothers. 1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:52.680 I was like, well, damn, we just just at rock 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:54.800 the bells. I'm like, Yo, that make all the sense 1:03:54.880 --> 1:03:57.160 in the world. Man. So Roal, why this man? We 1:03:57.240 --> 1:03:59.840 got that project. We're turning up. Yo. We we all 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:02.520 over the place right now. You know, the families got 1:04:02.600 --> 1:04:04.320 our back, you know what I mean, Like we we 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:07.240 are here, you know, picking up the luggage, doing what 1:04:07.320 --> 1:04:10.200 the funk. We do ship like that, Um, I mean 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:14.360 always man. I just I just knocked out a joint 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:17.439 for the locks, you know, and they last joint, Yeah, 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:21.160 it's it's it was ringing off real real funky joint, 1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:24.920 real funky joint. And they actually included, um that new 1:04:25.000 --> 1:04:29.000 movement to Griselda Brothers was on there, Benny the Butcher. 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:35.200 Yeah so that yeah, they yo, so, And it was 1:04:35.280 --> 1:04:37.439 good to have a new movement come from New York. 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:39.400 And it wasn't from the Inner City, you know what 1:04:39.400 --> 1:04:41.640 I'm saying. It was like the brothers from up top 1:04:41.680 --> 1:04:44.920 because they know, they they you know, the city, the city. 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:48.320 I came front, and I'll actually I'll say it, man, 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:52.120 like the inner city got kind of like not boogie, 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:54.120 but got kind of like you know, like you no, 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:58.000 that's stable. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:00.400 and in the South like all these other just was 1:05:00.480 --> 1:05:02.560 coming through and they you know these people, you know, 1:05:02.640 --> 1:05:05.120 they know, y'all brothers come, you know, like yo, we're 1:05:05.240 --> 1:05:08.480 hitting these streets like New York and you know the 1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:11.280 officers was right there, you know, you know somebody there 1:05:11.400 --> 1:05:14.840 that you know, so like I came front, I was 1:05:14.920 --> 1:05:16.640 one of them. You know I was the office. You know, 1:05:16.840 --> 1:05:18.800 you get out to the city, go to the office, 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:21.160 see what's up. Like so now to open up and 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:23.640 just like go to all these different regions and the 1:05:23.720 --> 1:05:25.920 work is in, so people, it ain't like I'm going 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:29.720 out here square one. You know, it's like I'm I'm 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:31.920 going out here with some working so you know, it's 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:34.320 the likeness. But just put that work in and I 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:36.360 think we'll get it to where we where we needed 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:40.600 to be so that you know, uh not even on 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:43.480 the industry tip, just for the culture. You know, we'll 1:05:43.560 --> 1:05:46.680 we'll have because I was always inspired by like Africa 1:05:46.760 --> 1:05:52.480 band Bada you know, um uh, Africa Islam. You know 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:56.000 the Zulu dudes. These were they had a term called 1:05:56.080 --> 1:06:00.080 record masters. These were record masters. These were dudes that 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:03.400 you know, your bam got every break, you know, that 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.760 type of ship. You know, that's that was where I was. 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:10.120 I was like, oh ship Yo and Yo bam played 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:13.520 Frisco disco at you know, like you know Africa Islam 1:06:13.640 --> 1:06:16.040 and that like that was the ship that always had 1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:19.800 me wide. I like Africa Islam, cutting up Bob James 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:22.600 Nordless and ship on the you know the Zulu Beat show. 1:06:23.120 --> 1:06:26.480 Jazzy J and them record masters and ship like that. Like, 1:06:27.040 --> 1:06:31.360 that's what I think because that community, the records store community. 1:06:31.480 --> 1:06:34.640 Like I've been linking with record store owners and things. 1:06:34.720 --> 1:06:37.960 So it's just a whole other world out there, man 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:40.880 that I see how it could be done, and we're 1:06:40.920 --> 1:06:45.120 gonna get it done. For show Magacine. Man, it's definitely secure. 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:50.080 Breby louis absolutely man. That's what we was out there. 1:06:50.240 --> 1:06:52.880 He was, That's where we was out in Oakland. He's 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:55.360 out there posted with the high Road Brothers now Man. 1:06:55.680 --> 1:06:58.160 So yeah, he the o G take care of the 1:06:58.240 --> 1:07:00.760 turntable is um Yeah, definitely man. So you know we 1:07:00.880 --> 1:07:03.560 are circulating with the old and the new man and 1:07:03.960 --> 1:07:07.320 just in the name of hip hop in your opinion, 1:07:07.560 --> 1:07:13.960 in your opinion, what can we do to make hip 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:17.280 hop better? Like, what can we do to make hip 1:07:17.320 --> 1:07:19.160 hop better? What can hip hop do to make hip 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:21.320 hop back? Well, one thing that I saw that was 1:07:21.440 --> 1:07:24.480 really nice was my man Puff opened out Academy up 1:07:24.520 --> 1:07:27.080 Man for them children, man, the kind of like because 1:07:27.120 --> 1:07:29.960 that's what we need. We need these next generations, man, 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:33.840 to know what it really is and to follow suit 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:36.840 and to have the proper guidance man, So y'all you, 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:40.240 especially you when you came in that I didn't even 1:07:40.280 --> 1:07:42.560 say how. I was like, Yo, I love what you're 1:07:42.600 --> 1:07:44.760 doing because you're putting a lot of common sense out 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:47.960 there for a lot of people who just like it's 1:07:48.040 --> 1:07:50.600 this is common sense, like you know, and I love 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:55.720 that man and your brothers. Man, just just keep forging ahead, man, 1:07:55.800 --> 1:07:58.320 how y'all do man? And you're doing it now. Man 1:07:58.400 --> 1:08:00.240 when you hit the stage at the rock to else, 1:08:00.720 --> 1:08:03.200 when you putting the word out there, that's the good 1:08:03.280 --> 1:08:05.480 word man for real. I'm telling you there ain't no 1:08:05.600 --> 1:08:09.200 bullshit man. You you you are upright dude, man. And 1:08:09.600 --> 1:08:14.240 you you're standing on something. You're standing on something like people. People. 1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:17.800 People may not be able to you know pinpoint what 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:20.880 it is, but you got a solid stance that you 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:24.320 come from that's like, Yo, this is the world that's 1:08:24.560 --> 1:08:27.400 that's heavy and and and it's real in my heart. 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:30.400 And I'm the relatest to you. If you if you 1:08:30.600 --> 1:08:32.640 if you come up with something different, you know, like 1:08:32.760 --> 1:08:35.519 you you're there for if somebody got something you know, 1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:37.640 to add on or if they want you know, but 1:08:38.080 --> 1:08:42.439 where you stand is strong, and I we need black 1:08:42.520 --> 1:08:46.240 men to you know and very very well spoken, you 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:48.720 know what I mean, from start to finish, like very 1:08:48.840 --> 1:08:51.120 well spoken, both of your brothers. Like I think that 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:54.519 was part of the law, is how well spoken your 1:08:54.600 --> 1:08:59.479 law and yo, just continue that man, and y'all we're good. Man. 1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:02.439 I I got chills when they told me, man, because 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:04.920 I'm like, yo, man, the brothers man, and I know 1:09:05.080 --> 1:09:09.040 we all got mutual respect for one another, art and everything, man, 1:09:09.120 --> 1:09:11.840 but to actually sit down and chop it with y'all, 1:09:11.920 --> 1:09:14.560 man is a super honor man for real, because I 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:20.840 got super respected before we get out of here, Before 1:09:20.880 --> 1:09:24.599 we get out of here in October in eighteen sixty six, 1:09:25.360 --> 1:09:29.200 Texas passed as a law providing that black people cannot 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:33.960 testify in court unless the defendant is black or the 1:09:34.080 --> 1:09:39.840 crime charge was committed against a black person. M M yo, 1:09:40.040 --> 1:09:43.160 it's crazy. It was a law, bro, Yo, brother. This 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:46.040 is what's crazy is that. Um I was. I I'm 1:09:46.120 --> 1:09:49.640 sitting out there and on Fort Worth and I mean, 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:54.120 y'all maybe y'all maybe like really uh acclimated to this. 1:09:54.280 --> 1:09:58.160 But you know, the police called Robot and that ship 1:09:58.240 --> 1:10:07.960 said white settlement on it Settlement County, but the police 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:12.840 car said white Settlement and believe it or not, I 1:10:13.000 --> 1:10:14.760 kind of felt good because I'm like, you know, we 1:10:14.840 --> 1:10:17.000 got a lot of black black lives matter, you know, 1:10:17.040 --> 1:10:19.559 all of that kind and I kind of want, like, yo, 1:10:19.720 --> 1:10:22.000 you know what I'm saying, Let's not hide that ship. Man, 1:10:22.040 --> 1:10:23.840 put it out there. Man, if you won't be proud 1:10:23.920 --> 1:10:25.519 to be white, you know, don't put it out there 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:28.080 and ship, like, don't don't hide that ship and you know, 1:10:28.280 --> 1:10:30.559 under the hood or nothing, and do all this ship 1:10:30.680 --> 1:10:32.559 like just play and put it out there like we're 1:10:32.600 --> 1:10:36.160 putting it out there. Black lives matter, Like, yo, I know, 1:10:36.400 --> 1:10:38.519 it ain't gonna be no wall if we're being you 1:10:38.600 --> 1:10:41.000 know what I'm saying, We're just having everybody gonna have 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:44.840 motherfucking pride. People have pride. I don't want to go 1:10:45.080 --> 1:10:46.479 you know, I don't want to go there, you know, 1:10:46.640 --> 1:10:49.320 but like every don't hide it man like. So it 1:10:49.479 --> 1:10:51.719 was it was kind of like, oh, ship, white Settlement, 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:54.160 Like it's a city. It's a city. It's a city, yo. 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:56.920 And it was crazy because I looked up. I looked 1:10:57.000 --> 1:11:00.880 up White Settlement police car showing enough that ship came 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:04.080 up and it says white Settlement on the side. Man, 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:07.880 I was like, Wow, that's that's so when you read that, man, 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:10.320 I'm like, I know it still exists, but you know, 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:14.920 hip hop is is definitely penetrating, man, because that ship 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:17.560 looks stupid as funk when these people be racist and 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:20.400 all of that ship, man, because it's like, man, you 1:11:20.720 --> 1:11:25.760 you part of the like the fucking the small Like nah, man, 1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:30.880 you've got too many people. That's like we were rocking together, man, 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:33.559 Like it's so crazy. Man, I don't I don't know nothing. 1:11:33.920 --> 1:11:36.800 I mean, Flushing was a fucking melting pot. Man, Like 1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:39.040 I grew up with Hang June. I grew up with 1:11:39.680 --> 1:11:43.040 John Soul. You know what I'm saying, My man, our galoes, 1:11:43.200 --> 1:11:46.519 Ja rookies and you know Joel Lestraw. You know, I 1:11:47.120 --> 1:11:51.040 mad people. So I ain't never had no fucking racism 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:54.000 ship with me, you know, just from where I came 1:11:54.120 --> 1:11:56.760 up at. You know, understand for you to go and 1:11:56.800 --> 1:12:00.360 you ain't got no more how you want to be remembered, Man, 1:12:01.080 --> 1:12:04.800 I'm gonna be remembered, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I'm 1:12:04.880 --> 1:12:07.880 gonna be remembered. That's it. Man. They in some history 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:10.639 books somewhere, they're gonna be like large professor and Nick 1:12:10.960 --> 1:12:14.400 guarantee there's gonna be the bloodline still holding it strong 1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:17.439 because I got I just seen man. Mom oh man, 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:19.439 that's a whole another show. Man. I know where you're 1:12:19.439 --> 1:12:24.360 going with this, but YO, definitely man, Ladies and gentlemen. Man, 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:31.519 love y'all. Manl Gettle Toys reloaded bird page. This episode 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:33.840 was produced by A King and brought to you by 1:12:34.120 --> 1:12:38.439 The Black Effect Podcast Network at I Heart Radio