Speaker 1: Get you know, boys, it's back and reoded all in
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for
Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroading, the distant franchise, the
Speaker 1: truth escape building. And they ain't know when we speak
Speaker 1: the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it.
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Speaker 1: twa keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and
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Speaker 1: beautiful world. And the studio large, Professor, appreciate your respect,
Speaker 1: super respect that that we are sitting in the building
Speaker 1: with with not only hip hop history, but hip hop royalty.
Speaker 1: Bro Man, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Man, I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to live up. Man, got a bunch of records in
Speaker 1: the in the call right now, Man, Man, forever, man
Speaker 1: doing it. We're still doing it, man. This is what
Speaker 1: we do. What we do. You know what, Man, when
Speaker 1: I when I think of you, when I look at you, man,
Speaker 1: it's just would be tripping me out a lot, because
Speaker 1: I know that we know who you are, we know
Speaker 1: what you've done, we know your contributions. But you know,
Speaker 1: you take the average blow, you know, out on the
Speaker 1: street or whatever. They don't know, they don't understand the impact.
Speaker 1: I got work to do. I got work to do.
Speaker 1: We won't be here for it. Was that something that
Speaker 1: you did. You did you intentionally like play playing low key,
Speaker 1: you know, and not really trying to get all the
Speaker 1: way after that, everybody know, yeah I did this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did this, I did this, I did that. I
Speaker 1: did this, I did that. I did that, Like you
Speaker 1: did that. You did this, you did that, you did that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people don't even know. Yeah, you know, I think I
Speaker 1: can attribute that to like just that industry thing. You know,
Speaker 1: once you get in the industry, it started becoming you know,
Speaker 1: like I was one of them dudes from that ever
Speaker 1: where dudes thought they had to go up in the
Speaker 1: office to get their music out there, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's one of the earlier days. So that
Speaker 1: was my thing. But I think that was a thing
Speaker 1: that kind of contributed to that where it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, he's on this label and name promoting and
Speaker 1: you know, so it wasn't me because I was trying
Speaker 1: to stick my chest out as far as I could
Speaker 1: with the music, you know what I mean, and put
Speaker 1: it out there, MTV, whatever, whoever. You know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: for them. But if y'all want offer the platform, we're
Speaker 1: gonna rap. You know. That was my thing. So now
Speaker 1: it's it's when I look at it in retrospect, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't know if the industry was meant for me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't know if it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, it got me out there, It definitely got
Speaker 1: me out there, but you know, I think that's what
Speaker 1: that was. It was like a like an industry stigma
Speaker 1: with you know, just the big corporations and the indies
Speaker 1: and you know that kind of that was a real
Speaker 1: turn off for me too. Man, when it came. You know,
Speaker 1: at first making records, it was fun, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it really it was, um, it was
Speaker 1: it was an outlet for me. You know, free to
Speaker 1: express however it was I felt that day. And as
Speaker 1: time went on, the ship turned into a business that
Speaker 1: turned into another business that's now totally different business. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm like, bro, I don't really
Speaker 1: want to be a part of this ship. Certain things,
Speaker 1: you know, certain things we want to you know, we
Speaker 1: we're like this right here, this is beautiful. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. All right, yo, ghetto boys and laws
Speaker 1: pro kicking it like beautiful, man, like beautif. I'm glad
Speaker 1: we hear you know what I'm saying. And but it's
Speaker 1: just certain things that the industry board that you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of shot away. So that might be what
Speaker 1: it was like, because there was a lot of the
Speaker 1: industry stuff. I was like, that ain't for me. Right there,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do. I got the records in the car.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the turntables. I'm ready to get busy
Speaker 1: in a sense, man, in a sense like like our music,
Speaker 1: like music is now like an n F T. Bro,
Speaker 1: because you can't you can't touch it no more, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. At first we have CDs. Uh,
Speaker 1: you can open the ship up. You can read the creatives. Man,
Speaker 1: you can actually physically touch the product, man, But now
Speaker 1: it's like you can't tell. It's just in the atmosphere,
Speaker 1: in the air of the cloud, you know, things like yeah,
Speaker 1: and it caused less than the penity hit this dude ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's a fucking that. That's a disgrace to humanity
Speaker 1: in my opinion when it comes to the music, bro.
Speaker 1: That's why we had in these streets. Man. We was
Speaker 1: out there in Austen last night. Yo, um discovered the
Speaker 1: this girl was spitting last night. I'm in there cutting
Speaker 1: the records up. We're doing it like original recipe, favor staff.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Get busy, I'm cutting the
Speaker 1: records up. I got the forty five. I opened the
Speaker 1: mic up, like, yo, who get busy. This girl took
Speaker 1: flight this other dude Like so that's where you know.
Speaker 1: And so once I revisited that, I was like, right,
Speaker 1: this is what I always want, you know, just the
Speaker 1: party's going out to Germany with these people, you know,
Speaker 1: where it's a community man like that. We were out
Speaker 1: here now like we it's not them corporations, it's it's us.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was. I think I was waiting
Speaker 1: for that like, so we're here now and it's good.
Speaker 1: We tend to rolls up, you know, doing doing what
Speaker 1: we gotta do. Take hippop back. Is that kind of
Speaker 1: like going in full circle? Man, when you think about
Speaker 1: where you started in Queen's New York, absolutely all were
Speaker 1: doing it and it wasn't really about corporations and money.
Speaker 1: It was for the love of the art and just
Speaker 1: who got the busy is you know, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta remember I grew up in Flushing. That's over there
Speaker 1: by the globe, by the tennis courts and all of
Speaker 1: that where they do um the tennis you know tournaments.
Speaker 1: Then now right across the bridge is like Eric being
Speaker 1: rock Kim Kid and playing all of them. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like, it's it's these people. It was
Speaker 1: like right there, like I could go down the block
Speaker 1: and see Herbie love Bug count out stacks in front
Speaker 1: of the mall type ship with that red that same
Speaker 1: red ship that he had on and adding a heavy
Speaker 1: D video that red that red whip he had. He
Speaker 1: had that ship down the block from me. So I'm
Speaker 1: seeing that video called I'm like, man, like, so you
Speaker 1: want to do it big? You know, and I was
Speaker 1: more reliant on my skills, not on my marketing or nothing.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I know if I chopped this,
Speaker 1: oh man, we're gonna get him. Man. You hit that
Speaker 1: ship then, my man. And they're like, yeah, oh ship,
Speaker 1: how you get that ship like that? Then we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get So I was more relying on my skills.
Speaker 1: And we know, industry ain't about skills. They're about ma
Speaker 1: and y'all brothers, y'all took to you know, y'all took
Speaker 1: the reins, you know what I'm saying. Like we in
Speaker 1: New York, we was more like, yo, go out to
Speaker 1: the city real quick, you know, get with these people
Speaker 1: like the south Board that shipped to the game big time. Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're taking this ship in our own hands and blasting it.
Speaker 1: We had to. We did it out of necessity because
Speaker 1: nobody wanted right now from New York to see. That's
Speaker 1: what it was. Y'all was going up to New York
Speaker 1: and it was and it was kind of the same
Speaker 1: for us. So I'm just glad to be, you know,
Speaker 1: like doing it how we're doing it. I'm glad that,
Speaker 1: you know, I did what I did in the industry,
Speaker 1: and now the proceeds have me in a position where
Speaker 1: I could go out here and spread love to the
Speaker 1: hip hop community how we're supposed to and build it
Speaker 1: strong where we you know, just the arts and everybody
Speaker 1: making money, you know, getting busy. So you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely all the way back. Man. I want to
Speaker 1: know who raised you? Oh man, Man, it was a
Speaker 1: whole community, man, Like I was born in hallm uh
Speaker 1: who raised me was my mother and father, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Mother, I always thought she was she
Speaker 1: was born in Queens, but you were born in Hallan
Speaker 1: born in Ham. Yeah. My moms and pops they was
Speaker 1: they was living in Queens and they just so happened
Speaker 1: to be in Halem when you know she went in
Speaker 1: the labor But her mother, my grandmother, she lived in
Speaker 1: the building that Big Els standing in front of on
Speaker 1: his album cover DA. So that's Grandma's house right there
Speaker 1: with Big Ell of standing. That's grandma's house. You know.
Speaker 1: That's where I was going back and forth from Flushing
Speaker 1: to uptown and so like you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I had more close you know, proximity. Yo. We
Speaker 1: was good, Like I always getting my uptown you know,
Speaker 1: my original because my mom was just from Uptown, my
Speaker 1: pops from Virginia. So you know, it was that dynamic.
Speaker 1: You know, I had the sassy my mom's ain't you know,
Speaker 1: like maybe your moms maybe you'll you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Where it was just like, yo, it ain't no joke,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean for real, she put it down.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think I am who I am
Speaker 1: a lot because of her and my pops. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a smooth side to that. My pops are smooth.
Speaker 1: He put a lot of people, like a lot of
Speaker 1: people like he was a messenger dispatcher and so like
Speaker 1: you know, you'd be chilling in the projects. He did
Speaker 1: his thing, you know, smoke a little weed, drink all
Speaker 1: that type ship and you know a lot of like
Speaker 1: my man l E. S who produced produced on like
Speaker 1: you know, he used to you know, like my pops
Speaker 1: used to be in the projects like you know, and
Speaker 1: dudes giving dudes jobs and things like that with the
Speaker 1: messenger dispatching, you know, things like that. So it was
Speaker 1: it was cool because I was always like in the
Speaker 1: communities where I was supposed to be at, like I
Speaker 1: was catching Paul jams, because Flushing ain't really like the hood.
Speaker 1: Hood is hood. You know. We got the Globe, we
Speaker 1: got the tennis tournament and all that, you know, city field,
Speaker 1: you know, and all that so and this diverse, but
Speaker 1: it ain't like the most hood hood place. But it
Speaker 1: got it hood. It has its hood elements. But I
Speaker 1: was still like, we got the Bland projects. That's where
Speaker 1: my man black sheep dress is from. Hell of a
Speaker 1: golfer too, exactly. So his, his father and my father
Speaker 1: used to hang out back in the days, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and they had us like together, we're growing up. We're
Speaker 1: here in the park jams and all of that, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was a community kind of thing, man. But
Speaker 1: I mean Grandma's grandpops like I had. And now I'm
Speaker 1: even learning more because I thought I came from a
Speaker 1: small family, but now I'm learning more. Man. And the
Speaker 1: people's out in Virginia. Man very prestigious man, very prestigious
Speaker 1: man for real. So you've got siblings I had. I
Speaker 1: had an older system man twelve years older than me,
Speaker 1: and it was like Tom and Jerry like it. My
Speaker 1: my I think my my sticking my chest out is
Speaker 1: a lot because of her, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like she she it wasn't no joke, like you know,
Speaker 1: she raised me kind of like a pitbull almost like
Speaker 1: it was like because she was like my second mother
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. And after a while, after all,
Speaker 1: you know, I was able to withstand when she was
Speaker 1: sending at me. You know, I mean, I'm going out
Speaker 1: there now, I'm conquering you know, the streets like Nicks
Speaker 1: can't tell me, you know, I'm I'm ready. So you know,
Speaker 1: after a while, man, you know, shout out to my
Speaker 1: sister Nina. Her name was Lofty times lofty times crazy crazy.
Speaker 1: My sister used to be shout out to calin man crazy.
Speaker 1: I was. I was like, will you you your sister
Speaker 1: beat you man? My sister beat anybody I see. I
Speaker 1: see my sister kicked. I see my sister kick this
Speaker 1: dude in his face. I came, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: she so was that ever? That was that ever? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, liked that was that ever where
Speaker 1: where the sisters was just as I mean, they still
Speaker 1: got him, you know, because Megan the Stallion, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to around, you know, what exactly, So you
Speaker 1: know they're still around, but at that time there was
Speaker 1: a lot more prevalent and it was like, no, I
Speaker 1: know a few still to this day that who you know,
Speaker 1: it's a problem and ship, but they they beautiful women
Speaker 1: to this day. But question what, um, at what point
Speaker 1: in your life did you just fall in love with
Speaker 1: hip hop? Like I love you like that? When did
Speaker 1: you say that to hip hop? Like yeah, when I
Speaker 1: you know, it was one thing. I'm just saying, I
Speaker 1: love that. I mean, that's that's that's how you know
Speaker 1: about this ship? I love. I love the game, man,
Speaker 1: I love, but I don't like that. I'm melting for man,
Speaker 1: because when it comes to music, bro, and putting uh
Speaker 1: instruments where they go, not cluttering this ship up, putting
Speaker 1: them where they go. Man, you know, like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful thing, bro. It's almost it's probably
Speaker 1: the piece of as saying. I'm telling you, man, you made.
Speaker 1: I was watching Hawaii five Oh in my studio and
Speaker 1: I did a song for the product and the song
Speaker 1: was called shoot. I can't even remember the name of it.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I'll snap back to me. But
Speaker 1: it had that Hawaii five. Oh, vibe to it. Man,
Speaker 1: It's crazy how you can be watching some ship no
Speaker 1: sound but just vibe, man, just the vibe man, na
Speaker 1: na it was it was Hawaifi five. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a sound on. I just had the
Speaker 1: very yours. Well, y'all know that that fat Joe loop
Speaker 1: gotta flow Joe, that's her life. Yeah, shout out the
Speaker 1: diamond D. That's right there. But man, when when when
Speaker 1: did that? Like? Oh man, well, I think I think
Speaker 1: for all of us, probably it happened even before hipcom
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like because Marvin Gaye all
Speaker 1: of that. You know, I'm like Tupac like Yo, I
Speaker 1: was rocking. I was rocking all of that. I loved
Speaker 1: all of that. So when hip hop came, it was
Speaker 1: like the Because I always try to explain to people
Speaker 1: like for hip hop with us like me, you know,
Speaker 1: Fisher Price turntables and a like Records was like toys
Speaker 1: to us. So now when hip hop came around, like
Speaker 1: remember the Fisher Price turn I mean for real, like
Speaker 1: for real, you know. But so when hip hop came around,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, that's that like that, you know,
Speaker 1: we're touching the record and we're moving to you know,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And it was like you here
Speaker 1: a grand Master Flash record, and then that you're going
Speaker 1: your parents records and here the record that they use,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that's what they're doing, like okay,
Speaker 1: Like and then now you get out there and start
Speaker 1: getting with the you know, the elders like my man
Speaker 1: and the b X, my man, Sergeant Laying Funk. He
Speaker 1: used to put me on the Mad records like and
Speaker 1: get me the stores to go get you know. So
Speaker 1: it was just that that community thing, man, And and
Speaker 1: you have different versions of it. Some people getting you know,
Speaker 1: they fall in love with hin themself talk all day
Speaker 1: and fucking wrapped two people all day they you know,
Speaker 1: and really we all got some ship to say, though,
Speaker 1: he got some ship to say. Y'all better listen every
Speaker 1: time that man speak, both of them for real. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was just basically that man.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, and and because it was
Speaker 1: the birthplace, you know, I'm going uptown. I'm getting the
Speaker 1: real uptown flavor and coming back to Queens, which is
Speaker 1: a little bit more I would it's more a little
Speaker 1: more sophisticated you know what I mean, Like you could
Speaker 1: hear some R and B ship uh linked up with
Speaker 1: some hip hop vocals like a blending that was the
Speaker 1: Queen style and like it was. It was just so
Speaker 1: you had them two different worlds together and I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this is for me. And then as a hip hop kid,
Speaker 1: breaking drunk graffiti all of that, I went through all
Speaker 1: the channels, you know what I mean. So it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we were here with it. You know, this
Speaker 1: is what we're doing. All right, I'm with it, So
Speaker 1: check this out. When when? When when did the cuts
Speaker 1: and scratches come about? Because to me and for me,
Speaker 1: when I heard Herbie Hancock due Rocket, you know, that's
Speaker 1: the you know what I mean? And then and then
Speaker 1: the the Hungry like a Wolf was I think the
Speaker 1: first sample was the first, like it was something yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah from Duran durand you can't mention music. No, Now
Speaker 1: we didn't talk. I don't know, We're gonna talk a
Speaker 1: little bit, but yeah, I think that was the first
Speaker 1: sample really on the record. Really word but yeah, the
Speaker 1: Herbie Handcock I think was the first because that's when
Speaker 1: I heard it. Yeah, it could could be, but I
Speaker 1: think definitely sugar hell in them was kind of putting it.
Speaker 1: They were the backspinning it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like when when when when we got homework, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do the home. Let me respond respond with that fact
Speaker 1: the rappers did Light? Was that a backspin? Was that
Speaker 1: a sample? Now? That was a band? Really? Yeah? Rappers
Speaker 1: Delight was a band. Sylvia and them had the band
Speaker 1: up in that. The message was a band. Oh, I
Speaker 1: know that was a drum machine and dudes, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a drum machine and dudes playing, you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, that was damn it man. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that that was a Curtis Blow was an
Speaker 1: incredible producer as well and sing in sane. You know
Speaker 1: you already know, man, Curtis Blow had one of my
Speaker 1: favorite rap songs ever, way back West, from away back East,
Speaker 1: coming from the place you'd expect the least that came
Speaker 1: a stranger, just the black from a hall of town
Speaker 1: a long way back like Curtis Blow. Man, YO, give
Speaker 1: me all that job about things you wrote before a
Speaker 1: live three. Now I'm the guy named Curtis Blow. And
Speaker 1: Christmas is one thing I know, so every year, just
Speaker 1: about this time, I celebrate it ware the rhyme doing
Speaker 1: crazy like so you know it's coming coming from Curtis,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Curtis blown like mod and insane inspirations for
Speaker 1: me man. So you know, just hearing them guys like
Speaker 1: hearing their palk tapes, hearing s Ricks park tapes, like
Speaker 1: you know those tapes used to circulate like records. Was
Speaker 1: do you have like early records from Slick Rick before
Speaker 1: he got with Douggete Fresh, No, they were the park tapes,
Speaker 1: him and him and him and Doug like out there
Speaker 1: like in parks, you know what I'm saying, getting busy.
Speaker 1: So that was our culture before records. It was like
Speaker 1: you would have like the uh, the cold crushed Forward
Speaker 1: tape with them doing her over, you know, the Billy
Speaker 1: Joel stiletto, you know, and they got routines like things
Speaker 1: that are record ready, but they just doing it in
Speaker 1: the park like they're treating it like a whole show,
Speaker 1: you know, and you getting it on tape. It's like
Speaker 1: that so crazy, so crazy that you know, just the
Speaker 1: ingenuity and the thought that went into that, like that's
Speaker 1: something from nothing thing that now we're sitting here, you know,
Speaker 1: it's worldwide. I swear. We go all over the world
Speaker 1: and there's a community, there's a hip hop community that's there.
Speaker 1: I just went we was in Cologne, Germany. I went
Speaker 1: to a fifty cent show out there, arena packed, packed packed,
Speaker 1: they know the words everything. I'm like hip hop man,
Speaker 1: it started. It started in New York bro and and
Speaker 1: and and everybody speaks the language. Everybody speaks the hip
Speaker 1: hop language. And that's that's probably the most beautiful thing
Speaker 1: about that art man. Everybody around the world speaks And
Speaker 1: that's that's why I always say my man m c
Speaker 1: shan is a prophet because he made the song living
Speaker 1: in the World of hip Hop, and he said that,
Speaker 1: he said all all the things that we're doing right now,
Speaker 1: he said that, he said, we're gonna be living in
Speaker 1: the world of hip hop and that's where we at. Man, Like,
Speaker 1: that's the coolest ship you could be as someone who
Speaker 1: hip hop. Like, you know, either your friend you ain't
Speaker 1: gotta be hip hop, but you know you you got
Speaker 1: a friend that you know and you know you know
Speaker 1: Wouchane clan, you better know whoch clan. Yeah. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, if you want to get a
Speaker 1: you know, more go down the rabbit hole and find
Speaker 1: the rest of that. You know. That's what you know.
Speaker 1: Everybody know a little something to that. It got a
Speaker 1: new it got in the windows, see through the events
Speaker 1: when um you're being from Queen's Rock San Sean take
Speaker 1: Queens And I got a chance to actually check out
Speaker 1: her um movie on Netflix and like Roxane started a
Speaker 1: whole lot of ship in Queens when it came to
Speaker 1: hip hop. Absolutely she was on the front line. Shout
Speaker 1: to her and and then Nas tell me about the
Speaker 1: Nas encounter man, So Nas Nas Nas cool brother from
Speaker 1: queens Bridge, My man Joe Fatal, I know on him,
Speaker 1: And Flushing says five five years old, Like we was
Speaker 1: like you know, we was out and rocked the bells
Speaker 1: when him Fader was in there, and yeah, so Fader
Speaker 1: was in there. So I know him since five years old.
Speaker 1: Every something happened where he moved away for a while,
Speaker 1: then like high school days, he just popped back up
Speaker 1: and now he's this long island city Queensbridge dude. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, damn, I ain't seen you in
Speaker 1: the wild, Like you're like, yo, I know, g rap
Speaker 1: I know that's when I know that one and I
Speaker 1: was already kind of making beats, so he's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: bring yo, come to this party. Come there. Uh. So
Speaker 1: he started connecting the dots. Then one day he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I got this dude, Yo, he's mad nights, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: you know, because I was reluctant with like I was
Speaker 1: ready to go, like I was already kind of working
Speaker 1: with g rap so I ain't want hit none of
Speaker 1: these sub level you know what I mean, Like I'm
Speaker 1: like dogs, like were you He's all right, man, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this with you. Like and so this
Speaker 1: was nas you know what I'm saying. We went out
Speaker 1: to Coney Island. We took a damn a system cab
Speaker 1: Like I don't knew you. We used to have cabs
Speaker 1: that used to have the crazy system like y'all had
Speaker 1: to damn your own car and ship. But we used
Speaker 1: to call a cab and get that had a system
Speaker 1: and ship you know, he's Latin brother or whatever and
Speaker 1: ship goose neck ship all that, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: back in the days e Q all that bang. That's
Speaker 1: how we got faking the funk popping and ship because
Speaker 1: we used to ride around the system cab with that
Speaker 1: going to the weed spots and ship like that. Just
Speaker 1: listening to that ship blasting, like yo, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a record, you know. So we took the System cab
Speaker 1: out to Coney Island. That ship. I know that ship,
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't know then, but I know that
Speaker 1: she was a grip because that's miles and miles. So
Speaker 1: we did that, went to this studio named Staring the Sky.
Speaker 1: I made the beat on site and he said the
Speaker 1: rhymes right there, my man. Where was there a few
Speaker 1: other people? My man rage um yeah rail um yo.
Speaker 1: So and I was like when I first had and
Speaker 1: after that, I like I said, I was already working
Speaker 1: with g Rap. So we was like Queensbridge and Power
Speaker 1: Place Studios. I got some great stories for y'all two
Speaker 1: about like you know, some of the origins. But um,
Speaker 1: if that involved y'all, you know what I'm saying. Uh So,
Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge is right there and then the studios right there.
Speaker 1: So like late night, if Rock Kilmer g Rap wasn't
Speaker 1: coming in, I'll be like, yo, the studio is open,
Speaker 1: come through. You know. After that first session I established
Speaker 1: with him, I'm like, yo, we're gonna work again. And
Speaker 1: so I would be in the lab and I'll be like, yo,
Speaker 1: come through. The lab is open, and be like two
Speaker 1: or three in the morning. His mom's pick up the phone.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, you know ms Jones. She'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get him up boom and be like yo, yo,
Speaker 1: come up the block right now. Labs open. So you
Speaker 1: know he was He met me halfway with that, and
Speaker 1: that's why he is where he is now at this
Speaker 1: at this time, nas is what seventeen, Absolutely, something like seventeen.
Speaker 1: What was the live at the Barbecue the first song
Speaker 1: that you recorded with him that that was from the
Speaker 1: Breaking Adams album. Absolutely? Absolutely, yes, sir, Yeah, now wet
Speaker 1: we had love, man, we had love. We didn't do
Speaker 1: many many shows, but we did do a show in
Speaker 1: Houston and we had love out here. It was packed.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a strip mold kind of spot that
Speaker 1: it was. It was like a corner spot. He was
Speaker 1: at the Ryan Stone Wrangler or the Thunderdome or something
Speaker 1: like that. What was it ull It was nice. It
Speaker 1: was like a grocery exactly, and it was but it
Speaker 1: was the corner joint like it was in the corner here.
Speaker 1: It was packed. It was packed, and they in that
Speaker 1: front door joint was they joint? That was they joined.
Speaker 1: They was cool with the other ones. But they in
Speaker 1: barbe Q two where you heard a seventeen year old
Speaker 1: Nas speaking on that track, what's your first impression? Well,
Speaker 1: I already knew he was ill and out of the ordinary,
Speaker 1: because you know, you're here dudes rhyme cat and Hat.
Speaker 1: You know, he's like cat and arafat, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like that You're like, oh, okay, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I already knew it was. It
Speaker 1: was just like what is he gonna say now? That
Speaker 1: kind of thing, because we had a couple of renditions
Speaker 1: of the song that were trying to get together. But
Speaker 1: then when we was like it was go time, it
Speaker 1: was like and so when we heard it, it was
Speaker 1: you know, he delivered, man, it was it was I
Speaker 1: think Nas may have. I mean, because there are a
Speaker 1: couple of people all this earlier that have, but I
Speaker 1: think he kind of re rejuvenated, like shock rap, like
Speaker 1: that ship that's like what did that nigga say? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what huh? Let me bring that back? Like I
Speaker 1: think after that, like eminem kind of you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying kind of follow suit with like a lot
Speaker 1: of shock rap, like just ship that shocked you that
Speaker 1: the Nickel would say on the mic. You're like, huh,
Speaker 1: let me rewind that what I'm saying. And then it
Speaker 1: becomes a norm. No, now it's like the norm. It's
Speaker 1: like now that ain't shock rap no more. That's just
Speaker 1: the norm. That's just how we're speaking now. So it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing man, that you know he had he
Speaker 1: had a lot of you know, and then I didn't
Speaker 1: know as much about his father, but but he had
Speaker 1: a legacy exactly, so he already had that in his bloodline.
Speaker 1: So you know, he just applied it to wrap you know,
Speaker 1: which is a beautiful you know, and that's why he
Speaker 1: is with no much success world? How did how did
Speaker 1: you foster that relationship with man? So it's that was
Speaker 1: a high school thing. That was like kids getting busy.
Speaker 1: I still got that spirit too, you know you hear me, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeall got the records in the car, like
Speaker 1: where's the turntables? Like that was my thing. So after
Speaker 1: school we jet over their house or whatever. You know.
Speaker 1: Their moms was like really, I mean I had my turntables.
Speaker 1: I had my things, but you know, we jet over
Speaker 1: their house. You know, their moms was like really like
Speaker 1: in the beginning, she was really inviting, really supportive, like no, yo,
Speaker 1: y'all come over here, y'all do your work and I
Speaker 1: want to hear it, and you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'll go over there and after schools.
Speaker 1: It's funny because Shae Stadium City Field, like where I
Speaker 1: was working, they their their window looked straight at City Field, like,
Speaker 1: you know, because that's the Flushing Corona area right there,
Speaker 1: Like g rappers right there, Corona, like all of them.
Speaker 1: So it was that it was just a lot of
Speaker 1: good vibes and you know, things going on. So we
Speaker 1: was able to like put it out there to the
Speaker 1: world musically and ship. But it was like a high
Speaker 1: school thing. No dudes just getting up after high school
Speaker 1: on some wrap, watch the watch the videos. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Do a little scratch and take some
Speaker 1: flicks for the chicks. You know that type of thing.
Speaker 1: Man did I man yo during those times. And and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, man, while we were recording
Speaker 1: Wanted Dead or Alive, I listened to a lot of
Speaker 1: ghetto boys. Bro really and g Wraps call word up man,
Speaker 1: like we was listening to y'all. We was listening to
Speaker 1: y'all and to que because I always remember the line
Speaker 1: because I always said I want to use that ship
Speaker 1: as a scratch. And I think it was Bill God
Speaker 1: bless Yo. I think he was like, some of y'all
Speaker 1: niggas are bitches too. I wrote that. Well he did
Speaker 1: right there, I said, will I know? I said, Bill, Yeah, Bill.
Speaker 1: Bill said it sounds like, yo, that ship that one line,
Speaker 1: some of you niggas are bitches too, Yo that ship
Speaker 1: something about that one. And g Rap used to play
Speaker 1: that album and for and that one line used always
Speaker 1: like and I was like, Yo, now these brothers is
Speaker 1: ill and que. He listened to a lot of Cube
Speaker 1: while we was McCoy and word ice Cube is a
Speaker 1: class act too, man. So g Rap and I got
Speaker 1: to hanging out in New York um and we became
Speaker 1: tight man. And he was like a big gass influence,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, from from listening to uh,
Speaker 1: you should stand on the block, selling cooked up rocks,
Speaker 1: busting out my socks and a really good clock. That
Speaker 1: was all kind of things, bringing Jackison, jeans, magazines, anything
Speaker 1: just hustle of being he was. He was what I
Speaker 1: had was bad from my shoes to and the first
Speaker 1: time in my life, dadrazy man, I love it man,
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I love it, bro. Yeah, you work with Molly, yo.
Speaker 1: Molly gave me my first check, you know. Molly gave
Speaker 1: me my first check for doing the stuff I did.
Speaker 1: Uh gave me my friends. Not to cut you off, man,
Speaker 1: but only game my first check on production. You know, man,
Speaker 1: One thing that I've been hearing about Marley I never met.
Speaker 1: I don't think I haven't met Molly. But one thing
Speaker 1: I always hear about him is that you're afraid to
Speaker 1: break bread. Oh no, because his his cup runneth over.
Speaker 1: Like you know why. You know why, because Molly got
Speaker 1: the motherfucking skills. Molly got them skills. Molly touched the
Speaker 1: fucking machine and this money every fucking time. Man, Molly
Speaker 1: got them skills. And like me, like he gets busy, man,
Speaker 1: Molly just be dj and for nothing, just getting busy.
Speaker 1: And that's that spirit. So his cup gonna running over
Speaker 1: for forever. So it ain't nothing for that man to get,
Speaker 1: you know, lose something something though for this because his
Speaker 1: cup gonna he got them skills. That's that's why I
Speaker 1: want following that. He's like, YO, any year, any time,
Speaker 1: like Yo, what you got? You know, they won't hit
Speaker 1: me with the O G ship now, they won't hit
Speaker 1: me with now and all that ship. But when they're like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, you know, we want to pull me to
Speaker 1: the side now like oh shine you know, and things
Speaker 1: like that. So you know we're still standing. Man, I
Speaker 1: didn't think this. I never foresaw this time frame happening
Speaker 1: where it's like you're gonna be doing this and be
Speaker 1: this person in this, you know. So now I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of standing up like for like, I just want
Speaker 1: us to always be able to party New York style,
Speaker 1: like Park style, have some records. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like get funky, if face more, if well won't pick
Speaker 1: up the mike. Absolutely I will always encourage that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that just drop a gem on him,
Speaker 1: break out, you know what I'm saying, jump in the
Speaker 1: fly ship. You know what I'm saying. Practice I might
Speaker 1: have practiced, but will yeah, I'm sure. But that that's
Speaker 1: that's that's where you know, like last night in Austin,
Speaker 1: it was that kind of thing and it pleads my heart.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody know what nobody was gonna say, even though
Speaker 1: you know we did the show ed O g was
Speaker 1: dead big up. That's my dog right now. So you know,
Speaker 1: he puts some gems out there, you know. So that's
Speaker 1: where I think us as artists, like you know, we
Speaker 1: we want to give him. You know, we won't give
Speaker 1: him that like I we got the arenas we got,
Speaker 1: but we won't give him that that that Marvin Gay cover,
Speaker 1: Marvin Gay cover, the uh I want you to cover
Speaker 1: with all the people dancing and ship like that and
Speaker 1: it's the boarding ship and yeah, that's what we want,
Speaker 1: you know. Was l L was l L already big
Speaker 1: at that time. He was huge. He was already big.
Speaker 1: Huhvous as that to be nineties the nineties nineties, it
Speaker 1: was already no, oh yeah, L was that was had
Speaker 1: ninety aready No I'm talking. I'm talking about this is
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. He shout out, my man
Speaker 1: shot to page. I'll sitting in the call with my
Speaker 1: man shot you page. He played me some old Paul
Speaker 1: jam sh l Tennis niggaup damn oh l Tenny. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, I had to jump on Instagram and I
Speaker 1: didn't know what he posted or nothing. I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 1: I heard this tape L like YO had to comment, man, yo,
Speaker 1: not L being a beast man like shout out Dr Butcher,
Speaker 1: like all Original Crew, Royal Rich, all of them, man
Speaker 1: like Mikey d all of them dudes. Man, L been
Speaker 1: a beast man and he just took the reins early
Speaker 1: man like he he'd been a beast on the microphone
Speaker 1: man like from one man. Yeahah, when I heard that
Speaker 1: Paul jam ship, that was solidified, because you know, you
Speaker 1: want to hear that. That's why I'm like, I feel
Speaker 1: like I gotta do you know. I kind of went
Speaker 1: straight to doing records and ship. It was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're your Paul Jam m looms and ship like that,
Speaker 1: like so you know, I gotta get that in now,
Speaker 1: Like Yo, we're doing it, but we're doing it big,
Speaker 1: you know, so I do it like that. But L
Speaker 1: like when I heard that Paul Jam ship, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: so that's some ship that never made that nowhere. Now.
Speaker 1: I was that was streaked ship that you know, dudes
Speaker 1: just got circulating around and I was like, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: not sat you page. We were good. And then there's
Speaker 1: there's my man. I can't think of his name right now,
Speaker 1: but he's the tape master. He got all that ship man,
Speaker 1: all of them a little like Bis and Red Man
Speaker 1: a Farmers and all that. Yeah, we're much love to
Speaker 1: be hell too. Absolutely man Funky is held like I
Speaker 1: gotta beat from U Biz before he left, and I
Speaker 1: want to record it. But this is this is big
Speaker 1: with me because Biz Biz always like Bis business like
Speaker 1: so Biz always. He said, like, Yo, I'm the one
Speaker 1: that brought you out, like because you know I met
Speaker 1: Bi my, my my mentor, my mentor, Paul C. He
Speaker 1: let me his drum machine for like two weeks. He
Speaker 1: was he was, he was already he was working with Latifa,
Speaker 1: he was working with Ultramagnetic. Yes, yes, sir. So he
Speaker 1: lent me the sp and I'll beat it out for
Speaker 1: like two weeks. He came back, got the machine. He
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, let me let me slide with these disks.
Speaker 1: You know, like I ain't got no machine, but you
Speaker 1: know he's taking the machine, so like, yo, let me
Speaker 1: slide with you this No but no, but I ain't
Speaker 1: got no machine no more because he's taking that ship back.
Speaker 1: He lent it to me. So he's taking it back
Speaker 1: now and he's like, yo, let me take the dish too.
Speaker 1: So he got back to the studio. He plays the
Speaker 1: beat for bids. He played one of my beats for bits.
Speaker 1: It was just Bob Mauley joint. I had um um
Speaker 1: the uh the um. It's funny because you pulled up.
Speaker 1: So it was the Bob Mauley was the joint called Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was cornerstone. Yeah, the the
Speaker 1: cornerstone joint. Uh. The builder will be the head cone.
Speaker 1: The stone that the build a refuse will always be
Speaker 1: the head cornerstone. Man, I need to hear that. It's
Speaker 1: hell yeah, the stone that we're using the boomdocks right,
Speaker 1: the stonege the head cornerstone. That's the Bob Marley joints.
Speaker 1: It may you know have earlier, but um, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was the Ball Mauley joint and bars. You know. My
Speaker 1: man Paul called me. He was like, Yo, come to
Speaker 1: the studio right now. Man. I'm like, all right, boom
Speaker 1: to get on the bus and should I had to
Speaker 1: walk man oh types of ship. It was crazy went
Speaker 1: there is right there? Yo, you made that Bess just
Speaker 1: funcky y'all listen to what we listen to what we
Speaker 1: and they was working on fucking just a Friend. He
Speaker 1: played me just a friend that day he played me
Speaker 1: the mud for ship, all that ship. So I was
Speaker 1: like inducted. I was like, oh shoot, I'm saying with busy.
Speaker 1: They asking me how I feel about the ship and everything.
Speaker 1: They're like, how you like that? I'm like, no, that's
Speaker 1: that's ill. So I'm like, you know, got Chelsea do?
Speaker 1: And after that he's like, yo, how you get old?
Speaker 1: I'm like, get on the bus. He's like, now, come
Speaker 1: with me. Man getting a small gray maximum and she
Speaker 1: got the fucking system is going crazy all through the street.
Speaker 1: People like this. But we go to the Colosseum. They
Speaker 1: got the shirt kings downstairs, everybody bis been. He takes
Speaker 1: me back the flushing and ship everybody, Yo, who ship?
Speaker 1: He come upstairs? Meet my Mom's the whole man. It
Speaker 1: was crazy man. Bears Man, God, bless you bear Man,
Speaker 1: love you man. This man before we go to let's
Speaker 1: go back to policy possi. Uh it's this little known
Speaker 1: genius people that no no right. Paul worked with a
Speaker 1: lot of artists from back in the gap, and but
Speaker 1: he meant an early demise. Uh what was Paul I?
Speaker 1: Twenty four years old and he died under tragic circumstances?
Speaker 1: Did they ever find out, you know, why he was killed?
Speaker 1: But they didn't. They arrest somebody they had. He was
Speaker 1: actually one of the episodes of America's Most Want It
Speaker 1: was actually New York Most Wanted. It was New York's
Speaker 1: Most Wanted. Man. I wish, man, I wish, you know,
Speaker 1: just you know, they're they're speculations of suspects and you know,
Speaker 1: but I think somebody did. I don't know, but it's
Speaker 1: just like they made they made I know they heard
Speaker 1: that they made a couple of arrests, and I don't
Speaker 1: know whatever happened to it because it just was not
Speaker 1: something that was that was put out there to begin with, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was tragic. Man. I would really like to
Speaker 1: see what he was, yeah, man, and and so gifted,
Speaker 1: and he was working with a lot of people, he
Speaker 1: was doing a lot and so unique to be a
Speaker 1: dude doing this, man, and to be so funky man
Speaker 1: like it was it was like man like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was almost I don't know, man, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say nothing spiritually, man, but you know, God blessed man,
Speaker 1: my man Paul, So I have a production company to
Speaker 1: this day. I dedicated to him poule C Productions instead
Speaker 1: of the letter C is S E A because we
Speaker 1: both liked, uh, we liked Alan Toussaint and Marshall C. Horn,
Speaker 1: the producers for the Meters, and that was a black
Speaker 1: dude and a white dude, you know, working together. So
Speaker 1: I made it Paul C s E A because Marshall C.
Speaker 1: Horn and Allan Toussaint always did funny ways with their
Speaker 1: publishing companies or what is to C C two and
Speaker 1: things like that, So I did Paul C. You know,
Speaker 1: from a production company man too, And now we're here
Speaker 1: with Mad Productions man, and um it's all under poll C.
Speaker 1: So definitely they were questioning a lot of people, I know,
Speaker 1: they they questioned a whole lot of people from it.
Speaker 1: They they, I mean, they really was seeing I ain't.
Speaker 1: I think that was probably the most investigated. The big,
Speaker 1: big Big. Maybe the big Big might be more big Big,
Speaker 1: might be a little bit more. I mean, but damn
Speaker 1: they ain't. They still ain't come up with nothing for
Speaker 1: neither one of them. I think the big thing was
Speaker 1: more like Yo, let's just do this because let's put
Speaker 1: our name in the book so I can write this
Speaker 1: book or whatever. I don't think they were ever serious
Speaker 1: about trying to starve a big murder, because if they
Speaker 1: wanted to, they would have done it, the same thing
Speaker 1: with Pop they wanted to, they could have done it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can find a man and a whole clear across
Speaker 1: the globe exact, could have found out who did that
Speaker 1: in the desert exactly what you know with that yellow
Speaker 1: journalism man, Ever since I learned that term man, man,
Speaker 1: that's when they just put the paper out and they
Speaker 1: just tell you whatever the funk they want to tell you,
Speaker 1: and you don't know fucking ben Loud and even really
Speaker 1: exists and ship like that. Like I'm serious, man, I'm
Speaker 1: I've been skeptical of all of that ship man since
Speaker 1: ever since I learned that learned that term though. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't mess with that ship man, I don't,
Speaker 1: I know you, you know you, But you got a
Speaker 1: nice radar on all of that, man, So you could
Speaker 1: speak on it, man, and my man Lord j to
Speaker 1: Lord Jamal, he he'd be speaking on it, you know
Speaker 1: a lot. So look absolutely so you know it's it's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. We need brothers like y'all, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then after y'all get that lesson
Speaker 1: and should come get that musical blessing you know me,
Speaker 1: and then you know we're gonna think, Yo, all of that. Man,
Speaker 1: just get busy, man, like we wortered this earth. Man,
Speaker 1: this is our ship. Man, like Swan said, this is
Speaker 1: for us. You know about dot Com named you as
Speaker 1: the number thirteen produce it in hip hop history? Wowte best. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now that's on a list of top and then the
Speaker 1: greater list. That's halfway almost, that's almost halfway and that's
Speaker 1: the greater list. Is like everybody right, Uh, what do
Speaker 1: you think about that on it? Or? Is it an
Speaker 1: honor to year? Yes? I don't mean it's cool just
Speaker 1: to even be on the list, man, And to you know,
Speaker 1: I took this likeness, this name laws professor, you know,
Speaker 1: sticking my chest out, you know, talking that ship on
Speaker 1: the mic and all of that ship and put it
Speaker 1: out here in the world. And now it's on the
Speaker 1: list somewhere. So yo, man, I I'm I'm with it. Man.
Speaker 1: Anybody on that list you think you should be a
Speaker 1: hit of mad dudes mad that's that's that's really popping.
Speaker 1: But look, man, we got we got we got the list.
Speaker 1: Let's go to about dot com uh best hip hop producers.
Speaker 1: So I mean you've got different categories of it though,
Speaker 1: so and I'm accepting of that. Is that you know,
Speaker 1: you got boomed back, you got trapped, draill all of that.
Speaker 1: So I played my part man on the you know,
Speaker 1: on the boom back failed fore front, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: we're good, man, Like just started from you know, started
Speaker 1: from the bottom. Now we're here, yeah for real, man,
Speaker 1: Like this is being tape recorded. Man, people are gonna
Speaker 1: see this, man Like, that's what we wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: just to put our likeness out there and the art man.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm grateful not not to be labor the point,
Speaker 1: but I really want to know how you feel, you know,
Speaker 1: about your status in the game with all that you
Speaker 1: brought to the game. I really want to know how
Speaker 1: you feel, like deep ones side, how you really feel
Speaker 1: political career. Absolutely, you want to know really how you
Speaker 1: feel somebody who's given so much right. I feel excited
Speaker 1: because I've always been like now I need to put
Speaker 1: in more work I need to put in more work,
Speaker 1: like I need to put in more work. And now,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't know if it's too
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what's going on. But I
Speaker 1: now feel like, all right, all right, And I've been
Speaker 1: saying that a lot lately to people, the work is in,
Speaker 1: the work is in. I've been saying that a lot lately.
Speaker 1: I've been saying stay close, and the work is in
Speaker 1: a lot lately. But yeah, the work is in. And
Speaker 1: so I feel good, man, because the community now is
Speaker 1: not and it's it's not an industry community. It's just
Speaker 1: a natural like the Internet, technology has it fun. The
Speaker 1: industry shipped up, you know, the industry had a hold
Speaker 1: on like oh no, you can't, you know, And it's
Speaker 1: like the Internet just like now you're gonna see whatever
Speaker 1: you're interested in and if you if that man get
Speaker 1: his you know, ship popping like that, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: see it like it's gonna go viral whatever. So that's
Speaker 1: what I'm loving. That's what I think is part of
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm like I'm excited now because like
Speaker 1: the Internet, like all right, you put remember I'm skill driven,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm based on that's the first song.
Speaker 1: I can't based on skill, that's the first. Like when
Speaker 1: I made my little tapes and ship, I had concentration
Speaker 1: on work and I had based on skill. And that's
Speaker 1: my ship now. So I'm like, you know, if you
Speaker 1: look at my I g all I'm doing is just
Speaker 1: putting up records ship like that people. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a small community now, but it's gonna grow. I'm taking
Speaker 1: all these records from America, American history, sucking them up
Speaker 1: like twist them up on some hip hop ship, making
Speaker 1: them translating to some hip hop ship, and people was
Speaker 1: getting it, and you know, it's growing worldwide and that's
Speaker 1: what I'm loving. So I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited. The
Speaker 1: god rock can't Rock Cam. He was somebody that keeps
Speaker 1: collaborating with a few times now. Rock Kim has a
Speaker 1: mythical type aura about it, mystique, right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's like he's a very down to earth, humble guy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't allow too much access to himself. Uh,
Speaker 1: give us a story. I think I think that I
Speaker 1: think that's double edge. And he said that just recently,
Speaker 1: that that that was double edged about him because the
Speaker 1: industry started turning into like everyone coming together and like yo,
Speaker 1: we collaboro and all of that. And you know, at
Speaker 1: that time, he was just a stand alone dude and
Speaker 1: dudes were just like you know, he was always approachable
Speaker 1: and the God always show love. But just on the
Speaker 1: artist tip. It was just like a one of one,
Speaker 1: like stand alone type. But um man, yo, rock kim Man, Man,
Speaker 1: give us give us one of them stories about Rock him,
Speaker 1: because we don't really have stories about Rockets. What style,
Speaker 1: like what some crazy something? I mean because the god,
Speaker 1: that's that's the god. Like maybe something happened in the
Speaker 1: studio or he gave you a car one day that
Speaker 1: you ain't will never forget. All right, oh man, One
Speaker 1: time we were in the lab. I think he was
Speaker 1: working on his solo joints. It wasn't it could have
Speaker 1: been every being rocking. I don't, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: we was in the lab in the city and uh
Speaker 1: I had my man Land with me and lan Lane.
Speaker 1: We was cool. And Ship he knew Rock him from
Speaker 1: when when I was working with him. This is after
Speaker 1: all the work was in from that time. Now we
Speaker 1: got another time we're working with him and Ship we're
Speaker 1: gonna see him. Oh man Land with me and ship
Speaker 1: were chilling, rock him, embracing him. You know, they clicked
Speaker 1: up and ships everybody smoking weed, chilling whatever. So my
Speaker 1: man Lane he going downstairs and ship go to store whatever.
Speaker 1: He coming back upstairs, got this girl or whatever. He
Speaker 1: got some girl with him, might have been two or whatever.
Speaker 1: Wanted two girls and ship Russian chick. I guess he
Speaker 1: told her downstairs like Man, I got rock Himmel. No
Speaker 1: Ra allowed it. So now the chicks is in there.
Speaker 1: That's the end of the story. I go. You know,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say nothing else. Man, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say nothing else. Man, it was why now I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I'm i'm, i'm, I'm. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: block out one part and go to this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to this right here. So my man Land right
Speaker 1: now to check like one of them. I guess it was.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh man Land, try to, you know,
Speaker 1: because it was trying. You know, everybody was trying to
Speaker 1: do their little studio thing at the time, Like you
Speaker 1: know we're talking earlier about to you know, pull a
Speaker 1: seat back in the g type ship. No they're trying
Speaker 1: to do their studio thing, right, so you know the
Speaker 1: chick just come up. No no, no, no rock him
Speaker 1: Rocky not you rock not not who my manly man, Right,
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. Yeah, we was all laughing then.
Speaker 1: You know it was crazy man, Yeah, you know it
Speaker 1: was It was crazy. It was crazy. It was some
Speaker 1: wild ship. It was some wild ship. Uh you know
Speaker 1: for a studio session. We didn't supposed to be doing music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: happens should be happening. Work with tribe call Quest oh man, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: honorable brother Q Tip, oh man, Yo, that's that like
Speaker 1: to be involved with a brother that you know Q
Speaker 1: Tip with brothers actually. But I was like, you know
Speaker 1: because we had so many similarities on me and my
Speaker 1: man Q Tip, Like we're both to every ship and
Speaker 1: using same records and all this, you know wild ship
Speaker 1: we found out about the other each other whatever and ship.
Speaker 1: So it's like wow, man, like yo, we got a
Speaker 1: lot in common. Start rocking like dogs man, that the
Speaker 1: records that they put the world onto, that the world
Speaker 1: still reverves through their music like artists. Now, like this
Speaker 1: is like a portal, man, this is like them dudes.
Speaker 1: Was like you know, even their album covered with all
Speaker 1: the faces on. You know what I'm saying. They were
Speaker 1: like a portal for like hip hop man and to
Speaker 1: this day man, like you know, I reach out to
Speaker 1: Tip Man. He just recently rocked on a song that
Speaker 1: I have my Mannique the Exotic. He was on faking
Speaker 1: the funk with me. Um. We just did a project
Speaker 1: called Extra Exotic, so q Tip came through on that.
Speaker 1: We did a joint co qu I talked to him
Speaker 1: here and there, you know what I mean, like he
Speaker 1: he out there, Man, that that's a that man has,
Speaker 1: you know, put the world onto something, you know, and
Speaker 1: just trial Man brought just such a great vibe man,
Speaker 1: and just for me to get a shout out and
Speaker 1: to like do a track for them, you know, it
Speaker 1: was just like an honor man like them. Them dudes
Speaker 1: was already going and we clicked up. They got greater better,
Speaker 1: you know when they kept going and getting great at
Speaker 1: your incredible man, incredible experience. My um. Okay, So when
Speaker 1: the Midnight I've been on tripic call question since um
Speaker 1: the low End theory, but when the Midnight Marauders came out,
Speaker 1: I was smoking. We really really really a body. Everybody
Speaker 1: at that time, and I had an eighth fifty what
Speaker 1: color black? Okay, had an eight fifty with two fifteens
Speaker 1: and all it like it was done up like professional sound.
Speaker 1: You remember that. You remember that with that here's talking
Speaker 1: about right there with black joint. You had a black
Speaker 1: I love this. A couple of dynamic y'all got man,
Speaker 1: I love it, man, And every day call you, no doubt,
Speaker 1: make big money, Big calls him man. All right, so
Speaker 1: you're fifty man and riding. Molly had the red one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody in the bridge like man. Prince had a purple one,
Speaker 1: I mean a yellow one. You remember that. Willie went
Speaker 1: the Princess of Yeah, you went to that compound. I
Speaker 1: went to that compound. He had a yellow eight fifty
Speaker 1: with purple seats in it. I went to that compound.
Speaker 1: He clowned Tevin Campbell, Chris came to a ghetto boys
Speaker 1: show show? Did he? Sure? Did? Two? We had to.
Speaker 1: We played two shows at glam and I was out
Speaker 1: there with Rice was in the back and the singing
Speaker 1: every word. And Prince went and Willy said, they go
Speaker 1: Prince up at the top and people look back, and
Speaker 1: Prince did this, and big dude hauled him out real ship.
Speaker 1: All right, you said chial cold question. So I'm wait,
Speaker 1: let me finish. William't cut me off no more. So
Speaker 1: I'm in that, bitch man, let's go. So hit the weed,
Speaker 1: right and this is this is my partner is coming
Speaker 1: down from uh Oakland nice and they're bringing that. They're
Speaker 1: bringing that weed that's rolled up like you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 1: So I fired up the square man. I go to
Speaker 1: the record so I'm high as fuck. I pick up
Speaker 1: the Midnight maraudas bro and that'ship so fucking how do
Speaker 1: I put it in the cranky Doom Doom? Yeah? Blown
Speaker 1: the fuck? Yeah, oh way. Yeah. To this day, that
Speaker 1: is my favorite tribe called quest album because of the experience,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: That's like a game Star joint. Yeah where you were where?
Speaker 1: Yeah you remember? I remember that ship like it was
Speaker 1: this morning. I was high as fuck and that song
Speaker 1: came on, yeah, and I was just drove. Yo tip
Speaker 1: throw the Brethren Jones behind the Ronnie Forrester guard man,
Speaker 1: Yo shoever you are tip tip to ghetto boys. Yeah
Speaker 1: know that your tip throw the Brethren behind yo bro man.
Speaker 1: Now that's a fly guy man. All right. So y'all
Speaker 1: told the Prince story. So I'm riding the Jersey, go
Speaker 1: get some records with this dude. There was just diner man.
Speaker 1: This dude. I found out, my man, Charlie, there was
Speaker 1: a diner. My bad. I'm gonna rambler. So there's this
Speaker 1: diner man to dude, white guy man, Yo, tough, tough guy.
Speaker 1: Tough guy. He's a tough guy, short too man, but
Speaker 1: tough like what you want type ship. So we're in,
Speaker 1: they're getting records. He's showing us love doing it like
Speaker 1: we so borm. We're driving over there. Ship fucking phone
Speaker 1: ranging ship he talking and ship like yo, Prince with
Speaker 1: up man like I don't want to speak of ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, I had a good Prince moment
Speaker 1: for you. Okay. So Prince Londale and Q two. Londale
Speaker 1: and Prince were together and Londale was representing me and
Speaker 1: Lindale made me let me meet Prince man and he
Speaker 1: told my name or whatever. He said, hello, brand, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: and then he said tip and they went to the back.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, all right, well okay,
Speaker 1: well fly guy Q Tip my brother. I love man
Speaker 1: comal the abstract. So I'm with the family Christmas Day chilling.
Speaker 1: We're chilling, you know what I'm saying, family, extended family, everybody.
Speaker 1: You know. He called me up, yo, I'm coming, I'm
Speaker 1: coming through. I'm coming through, all right, cool? You know
Speaker 1: because he I moved out to Jamaica. He had just
Speaker 1: left it. You you know, so like, Yo're go and
Speaker 1: visit Marvs and I'm gonna come through. Come to the
Speaker 1: back doorship, opened the door and ship got Jannie Jackson
Speaker 1: with him. I'm like, come in. What was he doing
Speaker 1: with Jenny? Man? Bro? They were just hanging out there?
Speaker 1: Just want to man. It was in the movie together
Speaker 1: on the table. Bro. They was in the movie together.
Speaker 1: Quane minds want to know you got Jannie Jackson? What
Speaker 1: you're doing with them? Said? You didn't say? Johnny gets
Speaker 1: Tall Wahsington was from over there, man fifth Ward man hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard, It's hard. I don't know what Jennie. Where
Speaker 1: is Johnny? We can't be canceled. I think Johnny get
Speaker 1: Tard Washson might be young. Galveston is a Galviston. That's
Speaker 1: that's a very white right right right? Good? So no
Speaker 1: now like Queens, the the ependyme like the start of it,
Speaker 1: and in our opinion down here was run DMC. That's
Speaker 1: when we first heard about Yeah, somebody's just saying Queens
Speaker 1: loud and proud. Yeah, absolutely, Kings from Queens. From Queens
Speaker 1: comes Kings. Fifth Ward. They don't say no fifth Ward.
Speaker 1: Oh really the King from Queens, from Queens comes Kings. Yeah, Houston, Texas,
Speaker 1: but it don't say no, Yes, sir, I see all right,
Speaker 1: fifth board. So that's that's shout south the Fifth War.
Speaker 1: How about that? Did you ever get a chance to
Speaker 1: work with run DMC or talk to them and hang
Speaker 1: out with them? Me and and D Me and D
Speaker 1: is like I'm young Brol because I was like the
Speaker 1: second dude to come out with glasses from Queens. So
Speaker 1: I was inducted in that way. So you know, we
Speaker 1: got that camaraderie like that. But um nah, man, I
Speaker 1: didn't get to I ain't get not yet, not yet,
Speaker 1: because them brothers are still credible and I know they
Speaker 1: could pulla that's my mission these days. Yeah, because um,
Speaker 1: I just recently gave a beat the Grandmaster cast like
Speaker 1: one of the yeah, the originator, like it is rapture
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of going in different ways with who
Speaker 1: I want to work with and and and things that
Speaker 1: I think people you know. So yeah, man, we know
Speaker 1: all of that. Man, we might still be able to
Speaker 1: do that with running them. Man for real. I walked
Speaker 1: out the a loft in Harlem. Oh yeah yeah, right yeah,
Speaker 1: and on the block. Who do I see cool Mo
Speaker 1: d No but he was from right down the block. Yeah,
Speaker 1: comment and all that right there. Yeah, and man, that
Speaker 1: was like wow, that was that was a hip hop
Speaker 1: wild moment. Yeah. And Doug Doug live right up the
Speaker 1: block first, right up the block from there. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Speaker 1: So man, I get I get I get birthday calls
Speaker 1: from O D. I get Ice Yeah when he heard
Speaker 1: I got sick, man, I got calls from my beat
Speaker 1: and when when I got my transplain you know, check
Speaker 1: on me like like tips, Like yeah, that's a beautiful
Speaker 1: damn man. To have people that you grew up listening
Speaker 1: to to be your friend like l L, like you know,
Speaker 1: l L. Hit me up a cube, you know, text cube,
Speaker 1: and like these are my people. Ice team Man, ice Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ice Man Man. I did an art I did an
Speaker 1: art exhibit with Ice Man. We did a show called lyrics.
Speaker 1: It was me Ice, and so it was like the
Speaker 1: dude do a painting or whatever. We just write the
Speaker 1: lyrics over the painting. And you know, it was cool
Speaker 1: with me Ice, Cool, Keith Smooth, the hustler. A few
Speaker 1: of us were. That was just recently, no, and I
Speaker 1: was a few years ago because Chuck just told me
Speaker 1: he was with iced Tea and some kind of art
Speaker 1: thing that was branching out. So that, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a cool experience. Man. That's that's the to what he
Speaker 1: say is to real o G. It was he's the
Speaker 1: He's the O G tle. I'm o G realie double
Speaker 1: o G. So iced ta gotta be triple o G. Whatever.
Speaker 1: The motherucking you ain't that you ain't old yet. It
Speaker 1: ain't gotta be flavor flamel than you experienced ex experience.
Speaker 1: So iced t nobody reckless. Got a song called reckless Man,
Speaker 1: and people didn't know that was iced tea. That's iced tea, right,
Speaker 1: reckless reckless. I don't I can't think of that right now.
Speaker 1: I know a DJ's task was just to play records.
Speaker 1: When more could you ask that first record? You're talking
Speaker 1: about mixes, scratches and cuts, when you're talking about that
Speaker 1: first record, Reckless. Yeah, they just sently. I think they
Speaker 1: had them on the series that Cash actually was hosting
Speaker 1: and they yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. It's it's
Speaker 1: like with the b Boys or something like that was
Speaker 1: with the Breaking Up. Ye see, it's from like New
Speaker 1: Jersey or absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Man, You've been with a
Speaker 1: lot of records. Man, You've done a lot of business
Speaker 1: with a whole lot of people. Yeah. You ever thought
Speaker 1: about being an executive? Yo, I'm doing that now, man.
Speaker 1: I mean I know people were like, yo, words, you're
Speaker 1: gonna do that now. I'm like, yeah, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that now. I got a good team around me.
Speaker 1: It's industry free. All that bitch ass industry ship ain't
Speaker 1: nowhere around me. Man. I got Gorillage next to me.
Speaker 1: That's fucking tanning up the road. We was just in Denver,
Speaker 1: all over the place. She fucking Oakland del Dell came out.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, yo, Dell, don't never Dell,
Speaker 1: don't never pop out for people. You already know when
Speaker 1: I was out there with High Road, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, so we just hand up the road
Speaker 1: with you know, with the respected artists that we know
Speaker 1: from our ever, from the new era, all of that, man,
Speaker 1: And I don't know what just made to click, man,
Speaker 1: but just more than ever now it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of doing that now, man, Like you know,
Speaker 1: to some it may be late, but we're working with
Speaker 1: a lot of times. So you know, it's still a
Speaker 1: lot of talent to scale, man, based on scale brothers,
Speaker 1: based on the experience and and and and the respect
Speaker 1: and so it shouldn't be hard for you to make
Speaker 1: the moves and you got to connect absolutely do whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do at that man. So what's next? Yo? Man?
Speaker 1: We got this up down south up top project with
Speaker 1: my man Royal. Why this man, he's actually the brother
Speaker 1: He reached out to eight King. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: while we're out here, man, you gotta go see the brothers.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, damn, we just just at rock
Speaker 1: the bells. I'm like, Yo, that make all the sense
Speaker 1: in the world. Man. So Roal, why this man? We
Speaker 1: got that project. We're turning up. Yo. We we all
Speaker 1: over the place right now. You know, the families got
Speaker 1: our back, you know what I mean, Like we we
Speaker 1: are here, you know, picking up the luggage, doing what
Speaker 1: the funk. We do ship like that, Um, I mean
Speaker 1: always man. I just I just knocked out a joint
Speaker 1: for the locks, you know, and they last joint, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it was ringing off real real funky joint,
Speaker 1: real funky joint. And they actually included, um that new
Speaker 1: movement to Griselda Brothers was on there, Benny the Butcher.
Speaker 1: Yeah so that yeah, they yo, so, And it was
Speaker 1: good to have a new movement come from New York.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't from the Inner City, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was like the brothers from up top
Speaker 1: because they know, they they you know, the city, the city.
Speaker 1: I came front, and I'll actually I'll say it, man,
Speaker 1: like the inner city got kind of like not boogie,
Speaker 1: but got kind of like you know, like you no,
Speaker 1: that's stable. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: and in the South like all these other just was
Speaker 1: coming through and they you know these people, you know,
Speaker 1: they know, y'all brothers come, you know, like yo, we're
Speaker 1: hitting these streets like New York and you know the
Speaker 1: officers was right there, you know, you know somebody there
Speaker 1: that you know, so like I came front, I was
Speaker 1: one of them. You know I was the office. You know,
Speaker 1: you get out to the city, go to the office,
Speaker 1: see what's up. Like so now to open up and
Speaker 1: just like go to all these different regions and the
Speaker 1: work is in, so people, it ain't like I'm going
Speaker 1: out here square one. You know, it's like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: going out here with some working so you know, it's
Speaker 1: the likeness. But just put that work in and I
Speaker 1: think we'll get it to where we where we needed
Speaker 1: to be so that you know, uh not even on
Speaker 1: the industry tip, just for the culture. You know, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll have because I was always inspired by like Africa
Speaker 1: band Bada you know, um uh, Africa Islam. You know
Speaker 1: the Zulu dudes. These were they had a term called
Speaker 1: record masters. These were record masters. These were dudes that
Speaker 1: you know, your bam got every break, you know, that
Speaker 1: type of ship. You know, that's that was where I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship Yo and Yo bam played
Speaker 1: Frisco disco at you know, like you know Africa Islam
Speaker 1: and that like that was the ship that always had
Speaker 1: me wide. I like Africa Islam, cutting up Bob James
Speaker 1: Nordless and ship on the you know the Zulu Beat show.
Speaker 1: Jazzy J and them record masters and ship like that. Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I think because that community, the records store community.
Speaker 1: Like I've been linking with record store owners and things.
Speaker 1: So it's just a whole other world out there, man
Speaker 1: that I see how it could be done, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get it done. For show Magacine. Man, it's definitely secure.
Speaker 1: Breby louis absolutely man. That's what we was out there.
Speaker 1: He was, That's where we was out in Oakland. He's
Speaker 1: out there posted with the high Road Brothers now Man.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he the o G take care of the
Speaker 1: turntable is um Yeah, definitely man. So you know we
Speaker 1: are circulating with the old and the new man and
Speaker 1: just in the name of hip hop in your opinion,
Speaker 1: in your opinion, what can we do to make hip
Speaker 1: hop better? Like, what can we do to make hip
Speaker 1: hop better? What can hip hop do to make hip
Speaker 1: hop back? Well, one thing that I saw that was
Speaker 1: really nice was my man Puff opened out Academy up
Speaker 1: Man for them children, man, the kind of like because
Speaker 1: that's what we need. We need these next generations, man,
Speaker 1: to know what it really is and to follow suit
Speaker 1: and to have the proper guidance man, So y'all you,
Speaker 1: especially you when you came in that I didn't even
Speaker 1: say how. I was like, Yo, I love what you're
Speaker 1: doing because you're putting a lot of common sense out
Speaker 1: there for a lot of people who just like it's
Speaker 1: this is common sense, like you know, and I love
Speaker 1: that man and your brothers. Man, just just keep forging ahead, man,
Speaker 1: how y'all do man? And you're doing it now. Man
Speaker 1: when you hit the stage at the rock to else,
Speaker 1: when you putting the word out there, that's the good
Speaker 1: word man for real. I'm telling you there ain't no
Speaker 1: bullshit man. You you you are upright dude, man. And
Speaker 1: you you're standing on something. You're standing on something like people. People.
Speaker 1: People may not be able to you know pinpoint what
Speaker 1: it is, but you got a solid stance that you
Speaker 1: come from that's like, Yo, this is the world that's
Speaker 1: that's heavy and and and it's real in my heart.
Speaker 1: And I'm the relatest to you. If you if you
Speaker 1: if you come up with something different, you know, like
Speaker 1: you you're there for if somebody got something you know,
Speaker 1: to add on or if they want you know, but
Speaker 1: where you stand is strong, and I we need black
Speaker 1: men to you know and very very well spoken, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, from start to finish, like very
Speaker 1: well spoken, both of your brothers. Like I think that
Speaker 1: was part of the law, is how well spoken your
Speaker 1: law and yo, just continue that man, and y'all we're good. Man.
Speaker 1: I I got chills when they told me, man, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, the brothers man, and I know
Speaker 1: we all got mutual respect for one another, art and everything, man,
Speaker 1: but to actually sit down and chop it with y'all,
Speaker 1: man is a super honor man for real, because I
Speaker 1: got super respected before we get out of here, Before
Speaker 1: we get out of here in October in eighteen sixty six,
Speaker 1: Texas passed as a law providing that black people cannot
Speaker 1: testify in court unless the defendant is black or the
Speaker 1: crime charge was committed against a black person. M M yo,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It was a law, bro, Yo, brother. This
Speaker 1: is what's crazy is that. Um I was. I I'm
Speaker 1: sitting out there and on Fort Worth and I mean,
Speaker 1: y'all maybe y'all maybe like really uh acclimated to this.
Speaker 1: But you know, the police called Robot and that ship
Speaker 1: said white settlement on it Settlement County, but the police
Speaker 1: car said white Settlement and believe it or not, I
Speaker 1: kind of felt good because I'm like, you know, we
Speaker 1: got a lot of black black lives matter, you know,
Speaker 1: all of that kind and I kind of want, like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Let's not hide that ship. Man,
Speaker 1: put it out there. Man, if you won't be proud
Speaker 1: to be white, you know, don't put it out there
Speaker 1: and ship, like, don't don't hide that ship and you know,
Speaker 1: under the hood or nothing, and do all this ship
Speaker 1: like just play and put it out there like we're
Speaker 1: putting it out there. Black lives matter, Like, yo, I know,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be no wall if we're being you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We're just having everybody gonna have
Speaker 1: motherfucking pride. People have pride. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to go there, you know,
Speaker 1: but like every don't hide it man like. So it
Speaker 1: was it was kind of like, oh, ship, white Settlement,
Speaker 1: Like it's a city. It's a city. It's a city, yo.
Speaker 1: And it was crazy because I looked up. I looked
Speaker 1: up White Settlement police car showing enough that ship came
Speaker 1: up and it says white Settlement on the side. Man,
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, that's that's so when you read that, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know it still exists, but you know,
Speaker 1: hip hop is is definitely penetrating, man, because that ship
Speaker 1: looks stupid as funk when these people be racist and
Speaker 1: all of that ship, man, because it's like, man, you
Speaker 1: you part of the like the fucking the small Like nah, man,
Speaker 1: you've got too many people. That's like we were rocking together, man,
Speaker 1: Like it's so crazy. Man, I don't I don't know nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, Flushing was a fucking melting pot. Man, Like
Speaker 1: I grew up with Hang June. I grew up with
Speaker 1: John Soul. You know what I'm saying, My man, our galoes,
Speaker 1: Ja rookies and you know Joel Lestraw. You know, I
Speaker 1: mad people. So I ain't never had no fucking racism
Speaker 1: ship with me, you know, just from where I came
Speaker 1: up at. You know, understand for you to go and
Speaker 1: you ain't got no more how you want to be remembered, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be remembered, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be remembered. That's it. Man. They in some history
Speaker 1: books somewhere, they're gonna be like large professor and Nick
Speaker 1: guarantee there's gonna be the bloodline still holding it strong
Speaker 1: because I got I just seen man. Mom oh man,
Speaker 1: that's a whole another show. Man. I know where you're
Speaker 1: going with this, but YO, definitely man, Ladies and gentlemen. Man,
Speaker 1: love y'all. Manl Gettle Toys reloaded bird page. This episode
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