1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Get you know, boys, it's back and reoded all in 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroading, the distant franchise, the 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: truth escape building. And they ain't know when we speak 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: The North South East coat is the g B my 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: twa keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: wants to be drips head by And then the system 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: is so corrupt they throw the rock out of their 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: heads and then blame it on us. Don't get twisted 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: on code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: are the ghetto Boys Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: beautiful world. And the studio large, Professor, appreciate your respect, 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: super respect that that we are sitting in the building 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: with with not only hip hop history, but hip hop royalty. 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Bro Man, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Man, I'm just trying 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: to live up. Man, got a bunch of records in 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: the in the call right now, Man, Man, forever, man 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: doing it. We're still doing it, man. This is what 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: we do. What we do. You know what, Man, when 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: I when I think of you, when I look at you, man, 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: it's just would be tripping me out a lot, because 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: I know that we know who you are, we know 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: what you've done, we know your contributions. But you know, 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: you take the average blow, you know, out on the 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: street or whatever. They don't know, they don't understand the impact. 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: I got work to do. I got work to do. 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: We won't be here for it. Was that something that 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: you did. You did you intentionally like play playing low key, 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, and not really trying to get all the 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: way after that, everybody know, yeah I did this, Yeah, 34 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: I did this, I did this, I did that. I 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: did this, I did that. I did that, Like you 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: did that. You did this, you did that, you did that. Yeah, 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: people don't even know. Yeah, you know, I think I 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: can attribute that to like just that industry thing. You know, 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: once you get in the industry, it started becoming you know, 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: like I was one of them dudes from that ever 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: where dudes thought they had to go up in the 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: office to get their music out there, you know what 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean. That's one of the earlier days. So that 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: was my thing. But I think that was a thing 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: that kind of contributed to that where it was like, 46 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: all right, he's on this label and name promoting and 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, so it wasn't me because I was trying 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: to stick my chest out as far as I could 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: with the music, you know what I mean, and put 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: it out there, MTV, whatever, whoever. You know, it wasn't 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: for them. But if y'all want offer the platform, we're 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna rap. You know. That was my thing. So now 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: it's it's when I look at it in retrospect, I'm like, yo, 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if the industry was meant for me, 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't know if it was. 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it got me out there, It definitely got 57 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: me out there, but you know, I think that's what 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: that was. It was like a like an industry stigma 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: with you know, just the big corporations and the indies 60 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: and you know that kind of that was a real 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: turn off for me too. Man, when it came. You know, 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: at first making records, it was fun, man, you know 63 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, it really it was, um, it was 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: it was an outlet for me. You know, free to 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: express however it was I felt that day. And as 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: time went on, the ship turned into a business that 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: turned into another business that's now totally different business. You 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm like, bro, I don't really 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: want to be a part of this ship. Certain things, 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, certain things we want to you know, we 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: we're like this right here, this is beautiful. You know 72 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. All right, yo, ghetto boys and laws 73 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: pro kicking it like beautiful, man, like beautif. I'm glad 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: we hear you know what I'm saying. And but it's 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: just certain things that the industry board that you know, 76 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I kind of shot away. So that might be what 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: it was like, because there was a lot of the 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: industry stuff. I was like, that ain't for me. Right there, 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do. I got the records in the car. 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm ready for the turntables. I'm ready to get busy 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: in a sense, man, in a sense like like our music, 82 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: like music is now like an n F T. Bro, 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: because you can't you can't touch it no more, you 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. At first we have CDs. Uh, 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: you can open the ship up. You can read the creatives. Man, 86 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: you can actually physically touch the product, man, But now 87 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: it's like you can't tell. It's just in the atmosphere, 88 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: in the air of the cloud, you know, things like yeah, 89 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: and it caused less than the penity hit this dude ship. Yeah, 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Like that's a fucking that. That's a disgrace to humanity 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: in my opinion when it comes to the music, bro. 92 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: That's why we had in these streets. Man. We was 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: out there in Austen last night. Yo, um discovered the 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: this girl was spitting last night. I'm in there cutting 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the records up. We're doing it like original recipe, favor staff. 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Get busy, I'm cutting the 97 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: records up. I got the forty five. I opened the 98 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: mic up, like, yo, who get busy. This girl took 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: flight this other dude Like so that's where you know. 100 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: And so once I revisited that, I was like, right, 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: this is what I always want, you know, just the 102 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: party's going out to Germany with these people, you know, 103 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: where it's a community man like that. We were out 104 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: here now like we it's not them corporations, it's it's us. 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: So that's what I was. I think I was waiting 106 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: for that like, so we're here now and it's good. 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: We tend to rolls up, you know, doing doing what 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: we gotta do. Take hippop back. Is that kind of 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: like going in full circle? Man, when you think about 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: where you started in Queen's New York, absolutely all were 111 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: doing it and it wasn't really about corporations and money. 112 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: It was for the love of the art and just 113 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: who got the busy is you know, you gotta you 114 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: gotta remember I grew up in Flushing. That's over there 115 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: by the globe, by the tennis courts and all of 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: that where they do um the tennis you know tournaments. 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: Then now right across the bridge is like Eric being 118 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: rock Kim Kid and playing all of them. So you know, 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: it's it's it's like, it's it's these people. It was 120 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: like right there, like I could go down the block 121 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: and see Herbie love Bug count out stacks in front 122 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: of the mall type ship with that red that same 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: red ship that he had on and adding a heavy 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: D video that red that red whip he had. He 125 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: had that ship down the block from me. So I'm 126 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: seeing that video called I'm like, man, like, so you 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: want to do it big? You know, and I was 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: more reliant on my skills, not on my marketing or nothing. 129 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I know if I chopped this, 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: oh man, we're gonna get him. Man. You hit that 131 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: ship then, my man. And they're like, yeah, oh ship, 132 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: how you get that ship like that? Then we're like, yeah, 133 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna get So I was more relying on my skills. 134 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: And we know, industry ain't about skills. They're about ma 135 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: and y'all brothers, y'all took to you know, y'all took 136 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: the reins, you know what I'm saying. Like we in 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: New York, we was more like, yo, go out to 138 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: the city real quick, you know, get with these people 139 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: like the south Board that shipped to the game big time. Like, Yo, 140 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: we're taking this ship in our own hands and blasting it. 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: We had to. We did it out of necessity because 142 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: nobody wanted right now from New York to see. That's 143 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: what it was. Y'all was going up to New York 144 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: and it was and it was kind of the same 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: for us. So I'm just glad to be, you know, 146 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: like doing it how we're doing it. I'm glad that, 147 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, I did what I did in the industry, 148 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: and now the proceeds have me in a position where 149 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: I could go out here and spread love to the 150 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: hip hop community how we're supposed to and build it 151 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: strong where we you know, just the arts and everybody 152 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: making money, you know, getting busy. So you know, yeah, 153 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I definitely all the way back. Man. I want to 154 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: know who raised you? Oh man, Man, it was a 155 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: whole community, man, Like I was born in hallm uh 156 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: who raised me was my mother and father, you know 157 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Mother, I always thought she was she 158 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: was born in Queens, but you were born in Hallan 159 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: born in Ham. Yeah. My moms and pops they was 160 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: they was living in Queens and they just so happened 161 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: to be in Halem when you know she went in 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: the labor But her mother, my grandmother, she lived in 163 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: the building that Big Els standing in front of on 164 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: his album cover DA. So that's Grandma's house right there 165 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: with Big Ell of standing. That's grandma's house. You know. 166 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: That's where I was going back and forth from Flushing 167 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: to uptown and so like you you know what I'm saying. 168 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: But I had more close you know, proximity. Yo. We 169 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: was good, Like I always getting my uptown you know, 170 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: my original because my mom was just from Uptown, my 171 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: pops from Virginia. So you know, it was that dynamic. 172 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, I had the sassy my mom's ain't you know, 173 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: like maybe your moms maybe you'll you know what I mean. 174 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Where it was just like, yo, it ain't no joke, 175 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean for real, she put it down. 176 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I think I am who I am 177 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: a lot because of her and my pops. You know, 178 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: I got a smooth side to that. My pops are smooth. 179 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: He put a lot of people, like a lot of 180 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: people like he was a messenger dispatcher and so like 181 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: you know, you'd be chilling in the projects. He did 182 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: his thing, you know, smoke a little weed, drink all 183 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: that type ship and you know a lot of like 184 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: my man l E. S who produced produced on like 185 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, he used to you know, like my pops 186 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: used to be in the projects like you know, and 187 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: dudes giving dudes jobs and things like that with the 188 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: messenger dispatching, you know, things like that. So it was 189 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: it was cool because I was always like in the 190 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: communities where I was supposed to be at, like I 191 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: was catching Paul jams, because Flushing ain't really like the hood. 192 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Hood is hood. You know. We got the Globe, we 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: got the tennis tournament and all that, you know, city field, 194 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, and all that so and this diverse, but 195 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: it ain't like the most hood hood place. But it 196 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: got it hood. It has its hood elements. But I 197 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: was still like, we got the Bland projects. That's where 198 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: my man black sheep dress is from. Hell of a 199 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: golfer too, exactly. So his, his father and my father 200 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: used to hang out back in the days, what I'm saying, 201 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: and they had us like together, we're growing up. We're 202 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: here in the park jams and all of that, you know. 203 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: So it was a community kind of thing, man. But 204 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: I mean Grandma's grandpops like I had. And now I'm 205 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: even learning more because I thought I came from a 206 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: small family, but now I'm learning more. Man. And the 207 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: people's out in Virginia. Man very prestigious man, very prestigious 208 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: man for real. So you've got siblings I had. I 209 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: had an older system man twelve years older than me, 210 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: and it was like Tom and Jerry like it. My 211 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: my I think my my sticking my chest out is 212 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: a lot because of her, you know what I mean, 213 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: like she she it wasn't no joke, like you know, 214 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: she raised me kind of like a pitbull almost like 215 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: it was like because she was like my second mother 216 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. And after a while, after all, 217 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was able to withstand when she was 218 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: sending at me. You know, I mean, I'm going out 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: there now, I'm conquering you know, the streets like Nicks 220 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: can't tell me, you know, I'm I'm ready. So you know, 221 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: after a while, man, you know, shout out to my 222 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: sister Nina. Her name was Lofty times lofty times crazy crazy. 223 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: My sister used to be shout out to calin man crazy. 224 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: I was. I was like, will you you your sister 225 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: beat you man? My sister beat anybody I see. I 226 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: see my sister kicked. I see my sister kick this 227 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: dude in his face. I came, I was like, yo, 228 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: she so was that ever? That was that ever? You 229 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, liked that was that ever where 230 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: where the sisters was just as I mean, they still 231 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: got him, you know, because Megan the Stallion, I don't know, 232 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I don't know if 233 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: you want to around, you know, what exactly, So you 234 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: know they're still around, but at that time there was 235 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot more prevalent and it was like, no, I 236 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: know a few still to this day that who you know, 237 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: it's a problem and ship, but they they beautiful women 238 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: to this day. But question what, um, at what point 239 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: in your life did you just fall in love with 240 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: hip hop? Like I love you like that? When did 241 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: you say that to hip hop? Like yeah, when I 242 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, it was one thing. I'm just saying, I 243 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: love that. I mean, that's that's that's how you know 244 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: about this ship? I love. I love the game, man, 245 00:12:54,120 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: I love, but I don't like that. I'm melting for man, 246 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: because when it comes to music, bro, and putting uh 247 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: instruments where they go, not cluttering this ship up, putting 248 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: them where they go. Man, you know, like it's it's 249 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful thing, bro. It's almost it's probably 250 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: the piece of as saying. I'm telling you, man, you made. 251 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I was watching Hawaii five Oh in my studio and 252 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: I did a song for the product and the song 253 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: was called shoot. I can't even remember the name of it. 254 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I'll snap back to me. But 255 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: it had that Hawaii five. Oh, vibe to it. Man, 256 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: It's crazy how you can be watching some ship no 257 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: sound but just vibe, man, just the vibe man, na 258 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: na it was it was Hawaifi five. I don't know. 259 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have a sound on. I just had the 260 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: very yours. Well, y'all know that that fat Joe loop 261 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: gotta flow Joe, that's her life. Yeah, shout out the 262 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: diamond D. That's right there. But man, when when when 263 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: did that? Like? Oh man, well, I think I think 264 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: for all of us, probably it happened even before hipcom 265 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like because Marvin Gaye all 266 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: of that. You know, I'm like Tupac like Yo, I 267 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: was rocking. I was rocking all of that. I loved 268 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: all of that. So when hip hop came, it was 269 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: like the Because I always try to explain to people 270 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: like for hip hop with us like me, you know, 271 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: Fisher Price turntables and a like Records was like toys 272 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: to us. So now when hip hop came around, like 273 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: remember the Fisher Price turn I mean for real, like 274 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: for real, you know. But so when hip hop came around, 275 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, that's that like that, you know, 276 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: we're touching the record and we're moving to you know, 277 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And it was like you here 278 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: a grand Master Flash record, and then that you're going 279 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: your parents records and here the record that they use, 280 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that's what they're doing, like okay, 281 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: Like and then now you get out there and start 282 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: getting with the you know, the elders like my man 283 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: and the b X, my man, Sergeant Laying Funk. He 284 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: used to put me on the Mad records like and 285 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: get me the stores to go get you know. So 286 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: it was just that that community thing, man, And and 287 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: you have different versions of it. Some people getting you know, 288 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: they fall in love with hin themself talk all day 289 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: and fucking wrapped two people all day they you know, 290 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: and really we all got some ship to say, though, 291 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: he got some ship to say. Y'all better listen every 292 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: time that man speak, both of them for real. So 293 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was just basically that man. 294 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, and and because it was 295 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: the birthplace, you know, I'm going uptown. I'm getting the 296 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: real uptown flavor and coming back to Queens, which is 297 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more I would it's more a little 298 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: more sophisticated you know what I mean, Like you could 299 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: hear some R and B ship uh linked up with 300 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: some hip hop vocals like a blending that was the 301 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: Queen style and like it was. It was just so 302 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: you had them two different worlds together and I was like, yeah, no, 303 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: this is for me. And then as a hip hop kid, 304 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: breaking drunk graffiti all of that, I went through all 305 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: the channels, you know what I mean. So it was like, 306 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, we were here with it. You know, this 307 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: is what we're doing. All right, I'm with it, So 308 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: check this out. When when? When when did the cuts 309 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: and scratches come about? Because to me and for me, 310 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: when I heard Herbie Hancock due Rocket, you know, that's 311 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: the you know what I mean? And then and then 312 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the the Hungry like a Wolf was I think the 313 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: first sample was the first, like it was something yeah, 314 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: yeah from Duran durand you can't mention music. No, Now 315 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: we didn't talk. I don't know, We're gonna talk a 316 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: little bit, but yeah, I think that was the first 317 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: sample really on the record. Really word but yeah, the 318 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: Herbie Handcock I think was the first because that's when 319 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: I heard it. Yeah, it could could be, but I 320 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: think definitely sugar hell in them was kind of putting it. 321 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: They were the backspinning it, you know what I mean, 322 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: Like when when when when we got homework, I'm gonna 323 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: do the home. Let me respond respond with that fact 324 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: the rappers did Light? Was that a backspin? Was that 325 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: a sample? Now? That was a band? Really? Yeah? Rappers 326 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: Delight was a band. Sylvia and them had the band 327 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: up in that. The message was a band. Oh, I 328 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: know that was a drum machine and dudes, you know, like, yeah, 329 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: that was a drum machine and dudes playing, you know, 330 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: but yeah, no, that was damn it man. Yeah, and 331 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that that was a Curtis Blow was an 332 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: incredible producer as well and sing in sane. You know 333 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: you already know, man, Curtis Blow had one of my 334 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: favorite rap songs ever, way back West, from away back East, 335 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: coming from the place you'd expect the least that came 336 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: a stranger, just the black from a hall of town 337 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: a long way back like Curtis Blow. Man, YO, give 338 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: me all that job about things you wrote before a 339 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: live three. Now I'm the guy named Curtis Blow. And 340 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Christmas is one thing I know, so every year, just 341 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: about this time, I celebrate it ware the rhyme doing 342 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: crazy like so you know it's coming coming from Curtis, 343 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Curtis blown like mod and insane inspirations for 344 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: me man. So you know, just hearing them guys like 345 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: hearing their palk tapes, hearing s Ricks park tapes, like 346 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: you know those tapes used to circulate like records. Was 347 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: do you have like early records from Slick Rick before 348 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: he got with Douggete Fresh, No, they were the park tapes, 349 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: him and him and him and Doug like out there 350 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: like in parks, you know what I'm saying, getting busy. 351 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: So that was our culture before records. It was like 352 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: you would have like the uh, the cold crushed Forward 353 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: tape with them doing her over, you know, the Billy 354 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Joel stiletto, you know, and they got routines like things 355 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: that are record ready, but they just doing it in 356 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: the park like they're treating it like a whole show, 357 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, and you getting it on tape. It's like 358 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: that so crazy, so crazy that you know, just the 359 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: ingenuity and the thought that went into that, like that's 360 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: something from nothing thing that now we're sitting here, you know, 361 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: it's worldwide. I swear. We go all over the world 362 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: and there's a community, there's a hip hop community that's there. 363 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: I just went we was in Cologne, Germany. I went 364 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: to a fifty cent show out there, arena packed, packed packed, 365 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: they know the words everything. I'm like hip hop man, 366 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: it started. It started in New York bro and and 367 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: and and everybody speaks the language. Everybody speaks the hip 368 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: hop language. And that's that's probably the most beautiful thing 369 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: about that art man. Everybody around the world speaks And 370 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: that's that's why I always say my man m c 371 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: shan is a prophet because he made the song living 372 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: in the World of hip Hop, and he said that, 373 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: he said all all the things that we're doing right now, 374 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: he said that, he said, we're gonna be living in 375 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: the world of hip hop and that's where we at. Man, Like, 376 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: that's the coolest ship you could be as someone who 377 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: hip hop. Like, you know, either your friend you ain't 378 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: gotta be hip hop, but you know you you got 379 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: a friend that you know and you know you know 380 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: Wouchane clan, you better know whoch clan. Yeah. Yeah, So 381 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, if you want to get a 382 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, more go down the rabbit hole and find 383 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: the rest of that. You know. That's what you know. 384 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: Everybody know a little something to that. It got a 385 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: new it got in the windows, see through the events 386 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: when um you're being from Queen's Rock San Sean take 387 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: Queens And I got a chance to actually check out 388 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: her um movie on Netflix and like Roxane started a 389 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: whole lot of ship in Queens when it came to 390 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: hip hop. Absolutely she was on the front line. Shout 391 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: to her and and then Nas tell me about the 392 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: Nas encounter man, So Nas Nas Nas cool brother from 393 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: queens Bridge, My man Joe Fatal, I know on him, 394 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: And Flushing says five five years old, Like we was 395 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: like you know, we was out and rocked the bells 396 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: when him Fader was in there, and yeah, so Fader 397 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: was in there. So I know him since five years old. 398 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Every something happened where he moved away for a while, 399 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: then like high school days, he just popped back up 400 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: and now he's this long island city Queensbridge dude. And 401 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, damn, I ain't seen you in 402 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: the wild, Like you're like, yo, I know, g rap 403 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: I know that's when I know that one and I 404 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: was already kind of making beats, so he's like, Yo, 405 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: bring yo, come to this party. Come there. Uh. So 406 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: he started connecting the dots. Then one day he was like, Yo, 407 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: I got this dude, Yo, he's mad nights, I'm telling you, 408 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, because I was reluctant with like I was 409 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: ready to go, like I was already kind of working 410 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: with g rap so I ain't want hit none of 411 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: these sub level you know what I mean, Like I'm 412 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: like dogs, like were you He's all right, man, all right, 413 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this with you. Like and so this 414 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: was nas you know what I'm saying. We went out 415 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: to Coney Island. We took a damn a system cab 416 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't knew you. We used to have cabs 417 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: that used to have the crazy system like y'all had 418 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: to damn your own car and ship. But we used 419 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: to call a cab and get that had a system 420 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: and ship you know, he's Latin brother or whatever and 421 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: ship goose neck ship all that, you know, I mean 422 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: back in the days e Q all that bang. That's 423 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: how we got faking the funk popping and ship because 424 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: we used to ride around the system cab with that 425 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: going to the weed spots and ship like that. Just 426 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: listening to that ship blasting, like yo, it's gonna be 427 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: a record, you know. So we took the System cab 428 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: out to Coney Island. That ship. I know that ship, 429 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't know then, but I know that 430 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: she was a grip because that's miles and miles. So 431 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: we did that, went to this studio named Staring the Sky. 432 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: I made the beat on site and he said the 433 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: rhymes right there, my man. Where was there a few 434 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: other people? My man rage um yeah rail um yo. 435 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: So and I was like when I first had and 436 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: after that, I like I said, I was already working 437 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: with g Rap. So we was like Queensbridge and Power 438 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: Place Studios. I got some great stories for y'all two 439 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: about like you know, some of the origins. But um, 440 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: if that involved y'all, you know what I'm saying. Uh So, 441 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge is right there and then the studios right there. 442 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: So like late night, if Rock Kilmer g Rap wasn't 443 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: coming in, I'll be like, yo, the studio is open, 444 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: come through. You know. After that first session I established 445 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: with him, I'm like, yo, we're gonna work again. And 446 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: so I would be in the lab and I'll be like, yo, 447 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 1: come through. The lab is open, and be like two 448 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: or three in the morning. His mom's pick up the phone. 449 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: I'll be like, you know ms Jones. She'd be like, oh, 450 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get him up boom and be like yo, yo, 451 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: come up the block right now. Labs open. So you 452 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: know he was He met me halfway with that, and 453 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: that's why he is where he is now at this 454 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: at this time, nas is what seventeen, Absolutely, something like seventeen. 455 00:24:54,760 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: What was the live at the Barbecue the first song 456 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: that you recorded with him that that was from the 457 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: Breaking Adams album. Absolutely? Absolutely, yes, sir, Yeah, now wet 458 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: we had love, man, we had love. We didn't do 459 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: many many shows, but we did do a show in 460 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Houston and we had love out here. It was packed. 461 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: It wasn't like a strip mold kind of spot that 462 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: it was. It was like a corner spot. He was 463 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: at the Ryan Stone Wrangler or the Thunderdome or something 464 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: like that. What was it ull It was nice. It 465 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: was like a grocery exactly, and it was but it 466 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: was the corner joint like it was in the corner here. 467 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: It was packed. It was packed, and they in that 468 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: front door joint was they joint? That was they joined. 469 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: They was cool with the other ones. But they in 470 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: barbe Q two where you heard a seventeen year old 471 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: Nas speaking on that track, what's your first impression? Well, 472 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: I already knew he was ill and out of the ordinary, 473 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: because you know, you're here dudes rhyme cat and Hat. 474 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, he's like cat and arafat, you know what 475 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean? Like that You're like, oh, okay, you know 476 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I already knew it was. It 477 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: was just like what is he gonna say now? That 478 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of thing, because we had a couple of renditions 479 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: of the song that were trying to get together. But 480 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: then when we was like it was go time, it 481 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: was like and so when we heard it, it was 482 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: you know, he delivered, man, it was it was I 483 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: think Nas may have. I mean, because there are a 484 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: couple of people all this earlier that have, but I 485 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: think he kind of re rejuvenated, like shock rap, like 486 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: that ship that's like what did that nigga say? Yeah, 487 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: like what huh? Let me bring that back? Like I 488 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: think after that, like eminem kind of you know what 489 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying kind of follow suit with like a lot 490 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: of shock rap, like just ship that shocked you that 491 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: the Nickel would say on the mic. You're like, huh, 492 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: let me rewind that what I'm saying. And then it 493 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: becomes a norm. No, now it's like the norm. It's 494 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: like now that ain't shock rap no more. That's just 495 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: the norm. That's just how we're speaking now. So it's 496 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing man, that you know he had he 497 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of you know, and then I didn't 498 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: know as much about his father, but but he had 499 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: a legacy exactly, so he already had that in his bloodline. 500 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: So you know, he just applied it to wrap you know, 501 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: which is a beautiful you know, and that's why he 502 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: is with no much success world? How did how did 503 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: you foster that relationship with man? So it's that was 504 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: a high school thing. That was like kids getting busy. 505 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: I still got that spirit too, you know you hear me, Man, 506 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeall got the records in the car, like 507 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: where's the turntables? Like that was my thing. So after 508 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: school we jet over their house or whatever. You know. 509 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: Their moms was like really, I mean I had my turntables. 510 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: I had my things, but you know, we jet over 511 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: their house. You know, their moms was like really like 512 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: in the beginning, she was really inviting, really supportive, like no, yo, 513 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: y'all come over here, y'all do your work and I 514 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: want to hear it, and you know that kind of thing. 515 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I'll go over there and after schools. 516 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: It's funny because Shae Stadium City Field, like where I 517 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: was working, they their their window looked straight at City Field, like, 518 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, because that's the Flushing Corona area right there, 519 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: Like g rappers right there, Corona, like all of them. 520 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: So it was that it was just a lot of 521 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: good vibes and you know, things going on. So we 522 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: was able to like put it out there to the 523 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: world musically and ship. But it was like a high 524 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: school thing. No dudes just getting up after high school 525 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: on some wrap, watch the watch the videos. You know 526 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Do a little scratch and take some 527 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: flicks for the chicks. You know that type of thing. 528 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: Man did I man yo during those times. And and 529 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, man, while we were recording 530 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Wanted Dead or Alive, I listened to a lot of 531 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: ghetto boys. Bro really and g Wraps call word up man, 532 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: like we was listening to y'all. We was listening to 533 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: y'all and to que because I always remember the line 534 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: because I always said I want to use that ship 535 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: as a scratch. And I think it was Bill God 536 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: bless Yo. I think he was like, some of y'all 537 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: niggas are bitches too. I wrote that. Well he did 538 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: right there, I said, will I know? I said, Bill, Yeah, Bill. 539 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: Bill said it sounds like, yo, that ship that one line, 540 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: some of you niggas are bitches too, Yo that ship 541 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: something about that one. And g Rap used to play 542 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: that album and for and that one line used always 543 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: like and I was like, Yo, now these brothers is 544 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: ill and que. He listened to a lot of Cube 545 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: while we was McCoy and word ice Cube is a 546 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: class act too, man. So g Rap and I got 547 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: to hanging out in New York um and we became 548 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: tight man. And he was like a big gass influence, 549 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, from from listening to uh, 550 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: you should stand on the block, selling cooked up rocks, 551 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: busting out my socks and a really good clock. That 552 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: was all kind of things, bringing Jackison, jeans, magazines, anything 553 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: just hustle of being he was. He was what I 554 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: had was bad from my shoes to and the first 555 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: time in my life, dadrazy man, I love it man, 556 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I love it, bro. Yeah, you work with Molly, yo. 557 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: Molly gave me my first check, you know. Molly gave 558 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: me my first check for doing the stuff I did. 559 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: Uh gave me my friends. Not to cut you off, man, 560 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: but only game my first check on production. You know, man, 561 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: One thing that I've been hearing about Marley I never met. 562 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I haven't met Molly. But one thing 563 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: I always hear about him is that you're afraid to 564 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: break bread. Oh no, because his his cup runneth over. 565 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Like you know why. You know why, because Molly got 566 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the motherfucking skills. Molly got them skills. Molly touched the 567 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: fucking machine and this money every fucking time. Man, Molly 568 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: got them skills. And like me, like he gets busy, man, 569 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: Molly just be dj and for nothing, just getting busy. 570 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: And that's that spirit. So his cup gonna running over 571 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: for forever. So it ain't nothing for that man to get, 572 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, lose something something though for this because his 573 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: cup gonna he got them skills. That's that's why I 574 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: want following that. He's like, YO, any year, any time, 575 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: like Yo, what you got? You know, they won't hit 576 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: me with the O G ship now, they won't hit 577 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: me with now and all that ship. But when they're like, 578 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: oh ship, you know, we want to pull me to 579 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: the side now like oh shine you know, and things 580 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: like that. So you know we're still standing. Man, I 581 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: didn't think this. I never foresaw this time frame happening 582 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: where it's like you're gonna be doing this and be 583 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: this person in this, you know. So now I'm just 584 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: kind of standing up like for like, I just want 585 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: us to always be able to party New York style, 586 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: like Park style, have some records. You know what I'm saying, 587 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: like get funky, if face more, if well won't pick 588 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: up the mike. Absolutely I will always encourage that. You 589 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that just drop a gem on him, 590 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: break out, you know what I'm saying, jump in the 591 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: fly ship. You know what I'm saying. Practice I might 592 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: have practiced, but will yeah, I'm sure. But that that's 593 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: that's that's where you know, like last night in Austin, 594 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: it was that kind of thing and it pleads my heart. 595 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody know what nobody was gonna say, even though 596 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: you know we did the show ed O g was 597 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: dead big up. That's my dog right now. So you know, 598 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: he puts some gems out there, you know. So that's 599 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: where I think us as artists, like you know, we 600 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: we want to give him. You know, we won't give 601 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: him that like I we got the arenas we got, 602 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: but we won't give him that that that Marvin Gay cover, 603 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: Marvin Gay cover, the uh I want you to cover 604 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: with all the people dancing and ship like that and 605 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: it's the boarding ship and yeah, that's what we want, 606 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: you know. Was l L was l L already big 607 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: at that time. He was huge. He was already big. 608 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Huhvous as that to be nineties the nineties nineties, it 609 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: was already no, oh yeah, L was that was had 610 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: ninety aready No I'm talking. I'm talking about this is 611 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. He shout out, my man 612 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: shot to page. I'll sitting in the call with my 613 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: man shot you page. He played me some old Paul 614 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: jam sh l Tennis niggaup damn oh l Tenny. I'm like, 615 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: oh ship, I had to jump on Instagram and I 616 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: didn't know what he posted or nothing. I'm just like, yo, 617 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: I heard this tape L like YO had to comment, man, yo, 618 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: not L being a beast man like shout out Dr Butcher, 619 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: like all Original Crew, Royal Rich, all of them, man 620 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: like Mikey d all of them dudes. Man, L been 621 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: a beast man and he just took the reins early 622 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: man like he he'd been a beast on the microphone 623 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: man like from one man. Yeahah, when I heard that 624 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: Paul jam ship, that was solidified, because you know, you 625 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 1: want to hear that. That's why I'm like, I feel 626 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: like I gotta do you know. I kind of went 627 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: straight to doing records and ship. It was like, Yo, 628 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: we're your Paul Jam m looms and ship like that, 629 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: like so you know, I gotta get that in now, 630 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: Like Yo, we're doing it, but we're doing it big, 631 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, so I do it like that. But L 632 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: like when I heard that Paul Jam ship, I was like, man, 633 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: so that's some ship that never made that nowhere. Now. 634 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: I was that was streaked ship that you know, dudes 635 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: just got circulating around and I was like, man, yeah, 636 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: not sat you page. We were good. And then there's 637 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: there's my man. I can't think of his name right now, 638 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: but he's the tape master. He got all that ship man, 639 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: all of them a little like Bis and Red Man 640 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: a Farmers and all that. Yeah, we're much love to 641 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: be hell too. Absolutely man Funky is held like I 642 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: gotta beat from U Biz before he left, and I 643 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: want to record it. But this is this is big 644 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: with me because Biz Biz always like Bis business like 645 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: so Biz always. He said, like, Yo, I'm the one 646 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: that brought you out, like because you know I met 647 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: Bi my, my my mentor, my mentor, Paul C. He 648 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: let me his drum machine for like two weeks. He 649 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: was he was, he was already he was working with Latifa, 650 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: he was working with Ultramagnetic. Yes, yes, sir. So he 651 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: lent me the sp and I'll beat it out for 652 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: like two weeks. He came back, got the machine. He 653 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, let me let me slide with these disks. 654 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, like I ain't got no machine, but you 655 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: know he's taking the machine, so like, yo, let me 656 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: slide with you this No but no, but I ain't 657 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: got no machine no more because he's taking that ship back. 658 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: He lent it to me. So he's taking it back 659 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: now and he's like, yo, let me take the dish too. 660 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: So he got back to the studio. He plays the 661 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: beat for bids. He played one of my beats for bits. 662 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: It was just Bob Mauley joint. I had um um 663 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: the uh the um. It's funny because you pulled up. 664 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: So it was the Bob Mauley was the joint called Uh, 665 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was cornerstone. Yeah, the the 666 00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: cornerstone joint. Uh. The builder will be the head cone. 667 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: The stone that the build a refuse will always be 668 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: the head cornerstone. Man, I need to hear that. It's 669 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: hell yeah, the stone that we're using the boomdocks right, 670 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: the stonege the head cornerstone. That's the Bob Marley joints. 671 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: It may you know have earlier, but um, yeah, it 672 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: was the Ball Mauley joint and bars. You know. My 673 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: man Paul called me. He was like, Yo, come to 674 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: the studio right now. Man. I'm like, all right, boom 675 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: to get on the bus and should I had to 676 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: walk man oh types of ship. It was crazy went 677 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: there is right there? Yo, you made that Bess just 678 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: funcky y'all listen to what we listen to what we 679 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: and they was working on fucking just a Friend. He 680 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: played me just a friend that day he played me 681 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: the mud for ship, all that ship. So I was 682 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: like inducted. I was like, oh shoot, I'm saying with busy. 683 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: They asking me how I feel about the ship and everything. 684 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: They're like, how you like that? I'm like, no, that's 685 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: that's ill. So I'm like, you know, got Chelsea do? 686 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: And after that he's like, yo, how you get old? 687 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, get on the bus. He's like, now, come 688 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: with me. Man getting a small gray maximum and she 689 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: got the fucking system is going crazy all through the street. 690 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: People like this. But we go to the Colosseum. They 691 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: got the shirt kings downstairs, everybody bis been. He takes 692 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: me back the flushing and ship everybody, Yo, who ship? 693 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: He come upstairs? Meet my Mom's the whole man. It 694 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: was crazy man. Bears Man, God, bless you bear Man, 695 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: love you man. This man before we go to let's 696 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: go back to policy possi. Uh it's this little known 697 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: genius people that no no right. Paul worked with a 698 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: lot of artists from back in the gap, and but 699 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: he meant an early demise. Uh what was Paul I? 700 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: Twenty four years old and he died under tragic circumstances? 701 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: Did they ever find out, you know, why he was killed? 702 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: But they didn't. They arrest somebody they had. He was 703 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: actually one of the episodes of America's Most Want It 704 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: was actually New York Most Wanted. It was New York's 705 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: Most Wanted. Man. I wish, man, I wish, you know, 706 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: just you know, they're they're speculations of suspects and you know, 707 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: but I think somebody did. I don't know, but it's 708 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: just like they made they made I know they heard 709 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: that they made a couple of arrests, and I don't 710 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: know whatever happened to it because it just was not 711 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: something that was that was put out there to begin with, right, Yeah, 712 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: but that was tragic. Man. I would really like to 713 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: see what he was, yeah, man, and and so gifted, 714 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: and he was working with a lot of people, he 715 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: was doing a lot and so unique to be a 716 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: dude doing this, man, and to be so funky man 717 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: like it was it was like man like, you know, 718 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: it was almost I don't know, man, I don't want 719 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: to say nothing spiritually, man, but you know, God blessed man, 720 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: my man Paul, So I have a production company to 721 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: this day. I dedicated to him poule C Productions instead 722 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: of the letter C is S E A because we 723 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: both liked, uh, we liked Alan Toussaint and Marshall C. Horn, 724 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: the producers for the Meters, and that was a black 725 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: dude and a white dude, you know, working together. So 726 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: I made it Paul C s E A because Marshall C. 727 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: Horn and Allan Toussaint always did funny ways with their 728 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: publishing companies or what is to C C two and 729 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: things like that, So I did Paul C. You know, 730 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: from a production company man too, And now we're here 731 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: with Mad Productions man, and um it's all under poll C. 732 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: So definitely they were questioning a lot of people, I know, 733 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: they they questioned a whole lot of people from it. 734 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: They they, I mean, they really was seeing I ain't. 735 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: I think that was probably the most investigated. The big, 736 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: big Big. Maybe the big Big might be more big Big, 737 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: might be a little bit more. I mean, but damn 738 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: they ain't. They still ain't come up with nothing for 739 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: neither one of them. I think the big thing was 740 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: more like Yo, let's just do this because let's put 741 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: our name in the book so I can write this 742 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: book or whatever. I don't think they were ever serious 743 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: about trying to starve a big murder, because if they 744 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: wanted to, they would have done it, the same thing 745 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: with Pop they wanted to, they could have done it. Yeah, 746 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: they can find a man and a whole clear across 747 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: the globe exact, could have found out who did that 748 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 1: in the desert exactly what you know with that yellow 749 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: journalism man, Ever since I learned that term man, man, 750 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: that's when they just put the paper out and they 751 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: just tell you whatever the funk they want to tell you, 752 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: and you don't know fucking ben Loud and even really 753 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: exists and ship like that. Like I'm serious, man, I'm 754 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: I've been skeptical of all of that ship man since 755 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: ever since I learned that learned that term though. It's like, 756 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't mess with that ship man, I don't, 757 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: I know you, you know you, But you got a 758 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: nice radar on all of that, man, So you could 759 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: speak on it, man, and my man Lord j to 760 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: Lord Jamal, he he'd be speaking on it, you know 761 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot. So look absolutely so you know it's it's 762 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. We need brothers like y'all, you know 763 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then after y'all get that lesson 764 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: and should come get that musical blessing you know me, 765 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: and then you know we're gonna think, Yo, all of that. Man, 766 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: just get busy, man, like we wortered this earth. Man, 767 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: this is our ship. Man, like Swan said, this is 768 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: for us. You know about dot Com named you as 769 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: the number thirteen produce it in hip hop history? Wowte best. Uh. 770 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: Now that's on a list of top and then the 771 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: greater list. That's halfway almost, that's almost halfway and that's 772 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: the greater list. Is like everybody right, Uh, what do 773 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: you think about that on it? Or? Is it an 774 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: honor to year? Yes? I don't mean it's cool just 775 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: to even be on the list, man, And to you know, 776 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: I took this likeness, this name laws professor, you know, 777 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: sticking my chest out, you know, talking that ship on 778 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: the mic and all of that ship and put it 779 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: out here in the world. And now it's on the 780 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: list somewhere. So yo, man, I I'm I'm with it. Man. 781 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: Anybody on that list you think you should be a 782 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: hit of mad dudes mad that's that's that's really popping. 783 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: But look, man, we got we got we got the list. 784 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to about dot com uh best hip hop producers. 785 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: So I mean you've got different categories of it though, 786 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: so and I'm accepting of that. Is that you know, 787 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: you got boomed back, you got trapped, draill all of that. 788 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: So I played my part man on the you know, 789 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: on the boom back failed fore front, and I'm like, yo, 790 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: we're good, man, Like just started from you know, started 791 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: from the bottom. Now we're here, yeah for real, man, 792 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: Like this is being tape recorded. Man, people are gonna 793 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: see this, man Like, that's what we wanted, you know, 794 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: just to put our likeness out there and the art man. 795 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm grateful not not to be labor the point, 796 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: but I really want to know how you feel, you know, 797 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: about your status in the game with all that you 798 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: brought to the game. I really want to know how 799 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,959 Speaker 1: you feel, like deep ones side, how you really feel 800 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: political career. Absolutely, you want to know really how you 801 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: feel somebody who's given so much right. I feel excited 802 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: because I've always been like now I need to put 803 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: in more work I need to put in more work, 804 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: like I need to put in more work. And now, 805 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't know if it's too 806 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what's going on. But I 807 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: now feel like, all right, all right, And I've been 808 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: saying that a lot lately to people, the work is in, 809 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: the work is in. I've been saying that a lot lately. 810 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: I've been saying stay close, and the work is in 811 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: a lot lately. But yeah, the work is in. And 812 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: so I feel good, man, because the community now is 813 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: not and it's it's not an industry community. It's just 814 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: a natural like the Internet, technology has it fun. The 815 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 1: industry shipped up, you know, the industry had a hold 816 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: on like oh no, you can't, you know, And it's 817 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: like the Internet just like now you're gonna see whatever 818 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: you're interested in and if you if that man get 819 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: his you know, ship popping like that, and you're gonna 820 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: see it like it's gonna go viral whatever. So that's 821 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: what I'm loving. That's what I think is part of 822 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: the reason why I'm like I'm excited now because like 823 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: the Internet, like all right, you put remember I'm skill driven, 824 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm based on that's the first song. 825 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: I can't based on skill, that's the first. Like when 826 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: I made my little tapes and ship, I had concentration 827 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: on work and I had based on skill. And that's 828 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: my ship now. So I'm like, you know, if you 829 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: look at my I g all I'm doing is just 830 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: putting up records ship like that people. You know, it's 831 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: a small community now, but it's gonna grow. I'm taking 832 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: all these records from America, American history, sucking them up 833 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: like twist them up on some hip hop ship, making 834 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: them translating to some hip hop ship, and people was 835 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: getting it, and you know, it's growing worldwide and that's 836 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: what I'm loving. So I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited. The 837 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: god rock can't Rock Cam. He was somebody that keeps 838 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: collaborating with a few times now. Rock Kim has a 839 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: mythical type aura about it, mystique, right, Yeah, I mean 840 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: he's like he's a very down to earth, humble guy. 841 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't allow too much access to himself. Uh, 842 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: give us a story. I think I think that I 843 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: think that's double edge. And he said that just recently, 844 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: that that that was double edged about him because the 845 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: industry started turning into like everyone coming together and like yo, 846 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: we collaboro and all of that. And you know, at 847 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: that time, he was just a stand alone dude and 848 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: dudes were just like you know, he was always approachable 849 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: and the God always show love. But just on the 850 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: artist tip. It was just like a one of one, 851 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: like stand alone type. But um man, yo, rock kim Man, Man, 852 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: give us give us one of them stories about Rock him, 853 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 1: because we don't really have stories about Rockets. What style, 854 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: like what some crazy something? I mean because the god, 855 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: that's that's the god. Like maybe something happened in the 856 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: studio or he gave you a car one day that 857 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: you ain't will never forget. All right, oh man, One 858 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: time we were in the lab. I think he was 859 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: working on his solo joints. It wasn't it could have 860 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: been every being rocking. I don't, I don't know. But 861 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: we was in the lab in the city and uh 862 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: I had my man Land with me and lan Lane. 863 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: We was cool. And Ship he knew Rock him from 864 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,479 Speaker 1: when when I was working with him. This is after 865 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: all the work was in from that time. Now we 866 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: got another time we're working with him and Ship we're 867 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 1: gonna see him. Oh man Land with me and ship 868 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: were chilling, rock him, embracing him. You know, they clicked 869 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: up and ships everybody smoking weed, chilling whatever. So my 870 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: man Lane he going downstairs and ship go to store whatever. 871 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: He coming back upstairs, got this girl or whatever. He 872 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: got some girl with him, might have been two or whatever. 873 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 1: Wanted two girls and ship Russian chick. I guess he 874 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: told her downstairs like Man, I got rock Himmel. No 875 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: Ra allowed it. So now the chicks is in there. 876 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: That's the end of the story. I go. You know, 877 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say nothing else. Man, I ain't gonna 878 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: say nothing else. Man, it was why now I'll tell you. 879 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I'm i'm, i'm, I'm. I'm gonna 880 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: block out one part and go to this. I'm gonna 881 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: go to this right here. So my man Land right 882 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: now to check like one of them. I guess it was. 883 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh man Land, try to, you know, 884 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: because it was trying. You know, everybody was trying to 885 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: do their little studio thing at the time, Like you 886 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: know we're talking earlier about to you know, pull a 887 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: seat back in the g type ship. No they're trying 888 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: to do their studio thing, right, so you know the 889 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: chick just come up. No no, no, no rock him 890 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: Rocky not you rock not not who my manly man, Right, 891 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. Yeah, we was all laughing then. 892 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: You know it was crazy man, Yeah, you know it 893 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: was It was crazy. It was crazy. It was some 894 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: wild ship. It was some wild ship. Uh you know 895 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: for a studio session. We didn't supposed to be doing music. Yeah, 896 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: happens should be happening. Work with tribe call Quest oh man, yeah, man, 897 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: honorable brother Q Tip, oh man, Yo, that's that like 898 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: to be involved with a brother that you know Q 899 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: Tip with brothers actually. But I was like, you know 900 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: because we had so many similarities on me and my 901 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: man Q Tip, Like we're both to every ship and 902 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: using same records and all this, you know wild ship 903 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: we found out about the other each other whatever and ship. 904 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: So it's like wow, man, like yo, we got a 905 00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: lot in common. Start rocking like dogs man, that the 906 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: records that they put the world onto, that the world 907 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: still reverves through their music like artists. Now, like this 908 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: is like a portal, man, this is like them dudes. 909 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: Was like you know, even their album covered with all 910 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: the faces on. You know what I'm saying. They were 911 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: like a portal for like hip hop man and to 912 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: this day man, like you know, I reach out to 913 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: Tip Man. He just recently rocked on a song that 914 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: I have my Mannique the Exotic. He was on faking 915 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: the funk with me. Um. We just did a project 916 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: called Extra Exotic, so q Tip came through on that. 917 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: We did a joint co qu I talked to him 918 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: here and there, you know what I mean, like he 919 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: he out there, Man, that that's a that man has, 920 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, put the world onto something, you know, and 921 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: just trial Man brought just such a great vibe man, 922 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: and just for me to get a shout out and 923 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: to like do a track for them, you know, it 924 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,959 Speaker 1: was just like an honor man like them. Them dudes 925 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: was already going and we clicked up. They got greater better, 926 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: you know when they kept going and getting great at 927 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: your incredible man, incredible experience. My um. Okay, So when 928 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: the Midnight I've been on tripic call question since um 929 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: the low End theory, but when the Midnight Marauders came out, 930 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: I was smoking. We really really really a body. Everybody 931 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: at that time, and I had an eighth fifty what 932 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: color black? Okay, had an eight fifty with two fifteens 933 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: and all it like it was done up like professional sound. 934 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: You remember that. You remember that with that here's talking 935 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: about right there with black joint. You had a black 936 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: I love this. A couple of dynamic y'all got man, 937 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: I love it, man, And every day call you, no doubt, 938 00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: make big money, Big calls him man. All right, so 939 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: you're fifty man and riding. Molly had the red one. Yeah, 940 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: everybody in the bridge like man. Prince had a purple one, 941 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean a yellow one. You remember that. Willie went 942 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: the Princess of Yeah, you went to that compound. I 943 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: went to that compound. He had a yellow eight fifty 944 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: with purple seats in it. I went to that compound. 945 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 1: He clowned Tevin Campbell, Chris came to a ghetto boys 946 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: show show? Did he? Sure? Did? Two? We had to. 947 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 1: We played two shows at glam and I was out 948 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: there with Rice was in the back and the singing 949 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: every word. And Prince went and Willy said, they go 950 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: Prince up at the top and people look back, and 951 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 1: Prince did this, and big dude hauled him out real ship. 952 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: All right, you said chial cold question. So I'm wait, 953 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: let me finish. William't cut me off no more. So 954 00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm in that, bitch man, let's go. So hit the weed, 955 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: right and this is this is my partner is coming 956 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: down from uh Oakland nice and they're bringing that. They're 957 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: bringing that weed that's rolled up like you wouldn't believe. 958 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: So I fired up the square man. I go to 959 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: the record so I'm high as fuck. I pick up 960 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: the Midnight maraudas bro and that'ship so fucking how do 961 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: I put it in the cranky Doom Doom? Yeah? Blown 962 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: the fuck? Yeah, oh way. Yeah. To this day, that 963 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: is my favorite tribe called quest album because of the experience, 964 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. 965 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: That's like a game Star joint. Yeah where you were where? 966 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah you remember? I remember that ship like it was 967 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: this morning. I was high as fuck and that song 968 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 1: came on, yeah, and I was just drove. Yo tip 969 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: throw the Brethren Jones behind the Ronnie Forrester guard man, 970 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: Yo shoever you are tip tip to ghetto boys. Yeah 971 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: know that your tip throw the Brethren behind yo bro man. 972 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: Now that's a fly guy man. All right. So y'all 973 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: told the Prince story. So I'm riding the Jersey, go 974 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 1: get some records with this dude. There was just diner man. 975 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: This dude. I found out, my man, Charlie, there was 976 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: a diner. My bad. I'm gonna rambler. So there's this 977 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: diner man to dude, white guy man, Yo, tough, tough guy. 978 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: Tough guy. He's a tough guy, short too man, but 979 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 1: tough like what you want type ship. So we're in, 980 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: they're getting records. He's showing us love doing it like 981 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,280 Speaker 1: we so borm. We're driving over there. Ship fucking phone 982 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: ranging ship he talking and ship like yo, Prince with 983 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: up man like I don't want to speak of ship. 984 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, I had a good Prince moment 985 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:14,720 Speaker 1: for you. Okay. So Prince Londale and Q two. Londale 986 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 1: and Prince were together and Londale was representing me and 987 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: Lindale made me let me meet Prince man and he 988 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: told my name or whatever. He said, hello, brand, that's crazy, 989 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: and then he said tip and they went to the back. 990 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, all right, well okay, 991 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: well fly guy Q Tip my brother. I love man 992 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: comal the abstract. So I'm with the family Christmas Day chilling. 993 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: We're chilling, you know what I'm saying, family, extended family, everybody. 994 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: You know. He called me up, yo, I'm coming, I'm 995 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: coming through. I'm coming through, all right, cool? You know 996 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: because he I moved out to Jamaica. He had just 997 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: left it. You you know, so like, Yo're go and 998 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: visit Marvs and I'm gonna come through. Come to the 999 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: back doorship, opened the door and ship got Jannie Jackson 1000 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: with him. I'm like, come in. What was he doing 1001 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: with Jenny? Man? Bro? They were just hanging out there? 1002 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: Just want to man. It was in the movie together 1003 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: on the table. Bro. They was in the movie together. 1004 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: Quane minds want to know you got Jannie Jackson? What 1005 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 1: you're doing with them? Said? You didn't say? Johnny gets 1006 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: Tall Wahsington was from over there, man fifth Ward man hard. 1007 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: It's hard, It's hard. I don't know what Jennie. Where 1008 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: is Johnny? We can't be canceled. I think Johnny get 1009 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: Tard Washson might be young. Galveston is a Galviston. That's 1010 00:57:53,120 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: that's a very white right right right? Good? So no 1011 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: now like Queens, the the ependyme like the start of it, 1012 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: and in our opinion down here was run DMC. That's 1013 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: when we first heard about Yeah, somebody's just saying Queens 1014 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: loud and proud. Yeah, absolutely, Kings from Queens. From Queens 1015 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: comes Kings. Fifth Ward. They don't say no fifth Ward. 1016 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: Oh really the King from Queens, from Queens comes Kings. Yeah, Houston, Texas, 1017 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: but it don't say no, Yes, sir, I see all right, 1018 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: fifth board. So that's that's shout south the Fifth War. 1019 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: How about that? Did you ever get a chance to 1020 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: work with run DMC or talk to them and hang 1021 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: out with them? Me and and D Me and D 1022 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: is like I'm young Brol because I was like the 1023 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: second dude to come out with glasses from Queens. So 1024 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: I was inducted in that way. So you know, we 1025 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: got that camaraderie like that. But um nah, man, I 1026 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: didn't get to I ain't get not yet, not yet, 1027 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: because them brothers are still credible and I know they 1028 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: could pulla that's my mission these days. Yeah, because um, 1029 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: I just recently gave a beat the Grandmaster cast like 1030 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: one of the yeah, the originator, like it is rapture 1031 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of going in different ways with who 1032 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: I want to work with and and and things that 1033 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 1: I think people you know. So yeah, man, we know 1034 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: all of that. Man, we might still be able to 1035 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: do that with running them. Man for real. I walked 1036 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: out the a loft in Harlem. Oh yeah yeah, right yeah, 1037 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 1: and on the block. Who do I see cool Mo 1038 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: d No but he was from right down the block. Yeah, 1039 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: comment and all that right there. Yeah, and man, that 1040 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: was like wow, that was that was a hip hop 1041 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 1: wild moment. Yeah. And Doug Doug live right up the 1042 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 1: block first, right up the block from there. Yeah. Hell yeah. 1043 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,919 Speaker 1: So man, I get I get I get birthday calls 1044 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: from O D. I get Ice Yeah when he heard 1045 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: I got sick, man, I got calls from my beat 1046 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: and when when I got my transplain you know, check 1047 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: on me like like tips, Like yeah, that's a beautiful 1048 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 1: damn man. To have people that you grew up listening 1049 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: to to be your friend like l L, like you know, 1050 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: l L. Hit me up a cube, you know, text cube, 1051 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 1: and like these are my people. Ice team Man, ice Man, Yeah, 1052 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Ice Man Man. I did an art I did an 1053 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: art exhibit with Ice Man. We did a show called lyrics. 1054 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: It was me Ice, and so it was like the 1055 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: dude do a painting or whatever. We just write the 1056 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: lyrics over the painting. And you know, it was cool 1057 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: with me Ice, Cool, Keith Smooth, the hustler. A few 1058 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: of us were. That was just recently, no, and I 1059 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: was a few years ago because Chuck just told me 1060 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: he was with iced Tea and some kind of art 1061 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: thing that was branching out. So that, yeah, that was 1062 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: a cool experience. Man. That's that's the to what he 1063 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: say is to real o G. It was he's the 1064 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: He's the O G tle. I'm o G realie double 1065 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: o G. So iced ta gotta be triple o G. Whatever. 1066 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: The motherucking you ain't that you ain't old yet. It 1067 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: ain't gotta be flavor flamel than you experienced ex experience. 1068 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: So iced t nobody reckless. Got a song called reckless Man, 1069 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: and people didn't know that was iced tea. That's iced tea, right, 1070 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: reckless reckless. I don't I can't think of that right now. 1071 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: I know a DJ's task was just to play records. 1072 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: When more could you ask that first record? You're talking 1073 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: about mixes, scratches and cuts, when you're talking about that 1074 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: first record, Reckless. Yeah, they just sently. I think they 1075 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: had them on the series that Cash actually was hosting 1076 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: and they yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. It's it's 1077 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: like with the b Boys or something like that was 1078 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: with the Breaking Up. Ye see, it's from like New 1079 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Jersey or absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Man, You've been with a 1080 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: lot of records. Man, You've done a lot of business 1081 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: with a whole lot of people. Yeah. You ever thought 1082 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: about being an executive? Yo, I'm doing that now, man. 1083 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean I know people were like, yo, words, you're 1084 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 1: gonna do that now. I'm like, yeah, man, I'm gonna 1085 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: do that now. I got a good team around me. 1086 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: It's industry free. All that bitch ass industry ship ain't 1087 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: nowhere around me. Man. I got Gorillage next to me. 1088 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: That's fucking tanning up the road. We was just in Denver, 1089 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: all over the place. She fucking Oakland del Dell came out. 1090 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, yo, Dell, don't never Dell, 1091 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: don't never pop out for people. You already know when 1092 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: I was out there with High Road, you know what 1093 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, so we just hand up the road 1094 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: with you know, with the respected artists that we know 1095 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: from our ever, from the new era, all of that, man, 1096 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know what just made to click, man, 1097 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: but just more than ever now it's like, you know, 1098 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of doing that now, man, Like you know, 1099 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: to some it may be late, but we're working with 1100 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: a lot of times. So you know, it's still a 1101 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: lot of talent to scale, man, based on scale brothers, 1102 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: based on the experience and and and and the respect 1103 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: and so it shouldn't be hard for you to make 1104 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: the moves and you got to connect absolutely do whatever 1105 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: you want to do at that man. So what's next? Yo? Man? 1106 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: We got this up down south up top project with 1107 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,439 Speaker 1: my man Royal. Why this man, he's actually the brother 1108 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 1: He reached out to eight King. He was like, Yo, 1109 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: while we're out here, man, you gotta go see the brothers. 1110 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: I was like, well, damn, we just just at rock 1111 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: the bells. I'm like, Yo, that make all the sense 1112 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 1: in the world. Man. So Roal, why this man? We 1113 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: got that project. We're turning up. Yo. We we all 1114 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: over the place right now. You know, the families got 1115 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: our back, you know what I mean, Like we we 1116 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 1: are here, you know, picking up the luggage, doing what 1117 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: the funk. We do ship like that, Um, I mean 1118 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: always man. I just I just knocked out a joint 1119 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,439 Speaker 1: for the locks, you know, and they last joint, Yeah, 1120 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it was ringing off real real funky joint, 1121 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 1: real funky joint. And they actually included, um that new 1122 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: movement to Griselda Brothers was on there, Benny the Butcher. 1123 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah so that yeah, they yo, so, And it was 1124 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,439 Speaker 1: good to have a new movement come from New York. 1125 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: And it wasn't from the Inner City, you know what 1126 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was like the brothers from up top 1127 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,920 Speaker 1: because they know, they they you know, the city, the city. 1128 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: I came front, and I'll actually I'll say it, man, 1129 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: like the inner city got kind of like not boogie, 1130 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: but got kind of like you know, like you no, 1131 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that's stable. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And 1132 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: and in the South like all these other just was 1133 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: coming through and they you know these people, you know, 1134 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: they know, y'all brothers come, you know, like yo, we're 1135 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: hitting these streets like New York and you know the 1136 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: officers was right there, you know, you know somebody there 1137 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: that you know, so like I came front, I was 1138 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: one of them. You know I was the office. You know, 1139 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: you get out to the city, go to the office, 1140 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: see what's up. Like so now to open up and 1141 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 1: just like go to all these different regions and the 1142 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: work is in, so people, it ain't like I'm going 1143 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 1: out here square one. You know, it's like I'm I'm 1144 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: going out here with some working so you know, it's 1145 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: the likeness. But just put that work in and I 1146 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: think we'll get it to where we where we needed 1147 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: to be so that you know, uh not even on 1148 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: the industry tip, just for the culture. You know, we'll 1149 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: we'll have because I was always inspired by like Africa 1150 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: band Bada you know, um uh, Africa Islam. You know 1151 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: the Zulu dudes. These were they had a term called 1152 01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 1: record masters. These were record masters. These were dudes that 1153 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, your bam got every break, you know, that 1154 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 1: type of ship. You know, that's that was where I was. 1155 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh ship Yo and Yo bam played 1156 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 1: Frisco disco at you know, like you know Africa Islam 1157 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: and that like that was the ship that always had 1158 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: me wide. I like Africa Islam, cutting up Bob James 1159 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: Nordless and ship on the you know the Zulu Beat show. 1160 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: Jazzy J and them record masters and ship like that. Like, 1161 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 1: that's what I think because that community, the records store community. 1162 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Like I've been linking with record store owners and things. 1163 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: So it's just a whole other world out there, man 1164 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: that I see how it could be done, and we're 1165 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: gonna get it done. For show Magacine. Man, it's definitely secure. 1166 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Breby louis absolutely man. That's what we was out there. 1167 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: He was, That's where we was out in Oakland. He's 1168 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: out there posted with the high Road Brothers now Man. 1169 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, he the o G take care of the 1170 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 1: turntable is um Yeah, definitely man. So you know we 1171 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: are circulating with the old and the new man and 1172 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 1: just in the name of hip hop in your opinion, 1173 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 1: in your opinion, what can we do to make hip 1174 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 1: hop better? Like, what can we do to make hip 1175 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 1: hop better? What can hip hop do to make hip 1176 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: hop back? Well, one thing that I saw that was 1177 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: really nice was my man Puff opened out Academy up 1178 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: Man for them children, man, the kind of like because 1179 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: that's what we need. We need these next generations, man, 1180 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 1: to know what it really is and to follow suit 1181 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: and to have the proper guidance man, So y'all you, 1182 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: especially you when you came in that I didn't even 1183 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: say how. I was like, Yo, I love what you're 1184 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: doing because you're putting a lot of common sense out 1185 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: there for a lot of people who just like it's 1186 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: this is common sense, like you know, and I love 1187 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: that man and your brothers. Man, just just keep forging ahead, man, 1188 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: how y'all do man? And you're doing it now. Man 1189 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 1: when you hit the stage at the rock to else, 1190 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: when you putting the word out there, that's the good 1191 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: word man for real. I'm telling you there ain't no 1192 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: bullshit man. You you you are upright dude, man. And 1193 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: you you're standing on something. You're standing on something like people. People. 1194 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 1: People may not be able to you know pinpoint what 1195 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: it is, but you got a solid stance that you 1196 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: come from that's like, Yo, this is the world that's 1197 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: that's heavy and and and it's real in my heart. 1198 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: And I'm the relatest to you. If you if you 1199 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,640 Speaker 1: if you come up with something different, you know, like 1200 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: you you're there for if somebody got something you know, 1201 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 1: to add on or if they want you know, but 1202 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 1: where you stand is strong, and I we need black 1203 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: men to you know and very very well spoken, you 1204 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean, from start to finish, like very 1205 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: well spoken, both of your brothers. Like I think that 1206 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: was part of the law, is how well spoken your 1207 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: law and yo, just continue that man, and y'all we're good. Man. 1208 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: I I got chills when they told me, man, because 1209 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, the brothers man, and I know 1210 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: we all got mutual respect for one another, art and everything, man, 1211 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 1: but to actually sit down and chop it with y'all, 1212 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,560 Speaker 1: man is a super honor man for real, because I 1213 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 1: got super respected before we get out of here, Before 1214 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 1: we get out of here in October in eighteen sixty six, 1215 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Texas passed as a law providing that black people cannot 1216 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: testify in court unless the defendant is black or the 1217 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: crime charge was committed against a black person. M M yo, 1218 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: it's crazy. It was a law, bro, Yo, brother. This 1219 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 1: is what's crazy is that. Um I was. I I'm 1220 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 1: sitting out there and on Fort Worth and I mean, 1221 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: y'all maybe y'all maybe like really uh acclimated to this. 1222 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 1: But you know, the police called Robot and that ship 1223 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: said white settlement on it Settlement County, but the police 1224 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 1: car said white Settlement and believe it or not, I 1225 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of felt good because I'm like, you know, we 1226 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of black black lives matter, you know, 1227 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 1: all of that kind and I kind of want, like, yo, 1228 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Let's not hide that ship. Man, 1229 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 1: put it out there. Man, if you won't be proud 1230 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: to be white, you know, don't put it out there 1231 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,080 Speaker 1: and ship, like, don't don't hide that ship and you know, 1232 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 1: under the hood or nothing, and do all this ship 1233 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 1: like just play and put it out there like we're 1234 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: putting it out there. Black lives matter, Like, yo, I know, 1235 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be no wall if we're being you 1236 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We're just having everybody gonna have 1237 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 1: motherfucking pride. People have pride. I don't want to go 1238 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to go there, you know, 1239 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: but like every don't hide it man like. So it 1240 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,719 Speaker 1: was it was kind of like, oh, ship, white Settlement, 1241 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 1: Like it's a city. It's a city. It's a city, yo. 1242 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 1: And it was crazy because I looked up. I looked 1243 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: up White Settlement police car showing enough that ship came 1244 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 1: up and it says white Settlement on the side. Man, 1245 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, that's that's so when you read that, man, 1246 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know it still exists, but you know, 1247 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: hip hop is is definitely penetrating, man, because that ship 1248 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,560 Speaker 1: looks stupid as funk when these people be racist and 1249 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: all of that ship, man, because it's like, man, you 1250 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: you part of the like the fucking the small Like nah, man, 1251 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: you've got too many people. That's like we were rocking together, man, 1252 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 1: Like it's so crazy. Man, I don't I don't know nothing. 1253 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Flushing was a fucking melting pot. Man, Like 1254 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: I grew up with Hang June. I grew up with 1255 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 1: John Soul. You know what I'm saying, My man, our galoes, 1256 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 1: Ja rookies and you know Joel Lestraw. You know, I 1257 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,040 Speaker 1: mad people. So I ain't never had no fucking racism 1258 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: ship with me, you know, just from where I came 1259 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 1: up at. You know, understand for you to go and 1260 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: you ain't got no more how you want to be remembered, Man, 1261 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be remembered, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I'm 1262 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 1: gonna be remembered. That's it. Man. They in some history 1263 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 1: books somewhere, they're gonna be like large professor and Nick 1264 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: guarantee there's gonna be the bloodline still holding it strong 1265 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 1: because I got I just seen man. Mom oh man, 1266 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: that's a whole another show. Man. I know where you're 1267 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: going with this, but YO, definitely man, Ladies and gentlemen. Man, 1268 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: love y'all. Manl Gettle Toys reloaded bird page. This episode 1269 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,840 Speaker 1: was produced by A King and brought to you by 1270 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: The Black Effect Podcast Network at I Heart Radio