Speaker 1: Well, I definitely learned something today in our brand new
Speaker 1: second date update. Yeah, we all get Jeffrey in the morning,
Speaker 1: and this woman has a very unique style of dating.
Speaker 2: I'm really well.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too into it because I
Speaker 1: don't want.
Speaker 3: To spoil it for you.
Speaker 1: So let us know what you think, Yes, you think
Speaker 1: or I've ever heard of it before? I mean that also,
Speaker 1: I would like to know, especially to our international listens,
Speaker 1: absolutely because we love reading your comments.
Speaker 3: When you see Alexis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brandon Martin said, currently in the hospital. My wife
Speaker 4: just had our third baby. Shout out theo archer. But
Speaker 4: I'm still here to get my fixed on our YouTube page.
Speaker 2: What a beautiful name.
Speaker 3: Three kids?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is so cool. Yeah, and you're still
Speaker 1: on our YouTube, Brooke and Jeffery YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is there, it is.
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations and make sure you give you know your
Speaker 1: wife all the flowers she deserves. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: locks there, especially the third time around. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get your brand new second date updates started right now.
Speaker 2: Date update.
Speaker 5: What are the classic signs that your date is not
Speaker 5: going well?
Speaker 2: Maybe they keep forgetting your name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they asked the waiter for separate checks before you
Speaker 5: even order out, or they FaceTime their mom trying to
Speaker 5: hook you up with her instead. I mean, you.
Speaker 6: Upgrading dates.
Speaker 2: They liked the show.
Speaker 5: May it's not as bad about I thought, But our
Speaker 5: listener Noah said he saw clear signs immediately on his
Speaker 5: date that things were just not going right immediately.
Speaker 1: That means she's not even given you a chance.
Speaker 2: Let's hear from him, Noah, Welcome to the show man.
Speaker 6: Hi, Hi, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: God immediately this is terrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So tell us about the name of this
Speaker 5: lady and how you met her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So her name is Sophie, and we met on
Speaker 7: a dating app. When I saw her picture, I mean,
Speaker 7: she's totally my type. She's got these beautiful brown eyes,
Speaker 7: long dark hair. I mean, to be honest with you,
Speaker 7: I just felt like I was lucky that she matched
Speaker 7: with me.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a nice compliment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: And we started like messaging really quickly, and the messaging
Speaker 7: back and forth was good and it was natural, and
Speaker 7: I got the impression that she's like a worldly.
Speaker 1: Person, like she travels a lot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like she's a traveler, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Like what from her pictures that she was traveling.
Speaker 7: No, No, just like the way she was talking. You know,
Speaker 7: she would like bring up weird facts about like countries
Speaker 7: and stuff, or talk about smart, loving to go on
Speaker 7: vacations and things like that, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool and you like that about her obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 7: I mean I admit I haven't really traveled much in
Speaker 7: my life, but I like that, you know, I like
Speaker 7: somebody to know stuff.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's somebody, yeah, introduce it to you.
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, I mean it was. I was all about it.
Speaker 7: And eventually it got to the point where I was like, well,
Speaker 7: do you want to meet up in person? And she
Speaker 7: said yeah, And she said she wanted to go on
Speaker 7: a European date.
Speaker 1: Does that mean it dinner starts at eleven pm?
Speaker 7: It was kind of weird thing, right, Like I didn't
Speaker 7: exactly know what that meant.
Speaker 5: Like actually in Europe and travel there, or just a
Speaker 5: European style cuisine.
Speaker 7: You know, I didn't get the impression she wanted to
Speaker 7: go to Europe. She said that European you know, go
Speaker 7: to like a European place, and she mentioned Scandinavia.
Speaker 6: That was the thing.
Speaker 7: It was like Scandinavia, like the Nordic countries or something,
Speaker 7: and Okay, let's go have some pickled fish.
Speaker 4: Oh there's a Scanningion coffee shop here that's really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Or maybe she wanted to go Dutch, meaning she wants
Speaker 1: to split it equally.
Speaker 7: And I didn't want to like ask anything, because they
Speaker 7: didn't want to be like dumb, you know. I didn't
Speaker 7: want to seem like I didn't know what she was
Speaker 7: talking about. I just sort of pretended that I knew
Speaker 7: what she was talking about.
Speaker 1: Wait, and you're going to have to plan a date
Speaker 1: without knowing what she wants, Like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I had a history of this. I
Speaker 7: mean in college, I took a girl out and she
Speaker 7: said she had a gluten allergy, and so I didn't
Speaker 7: know what that meant. So I took her to an
Speaker 7: Italian restaurant.
Speaker 2: We can't go to German because that glug.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, I better to ask forgiveness and permission.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 7: This is okay, And so I just rolled the dice
Speaker 7: and I made her reservation at a couple of different places,
Speaker 7: and I just figured I'd let her pick, you know.
Speaker 7: And I was even worried, like my car's a Japanese car, Like,
Speaker 7: should I rent a European car?
Speaker 2: Taking this too much?
Speaker 4: But she'd move there.
Speaker 5: You're like way up in your own head before you've
Speaker 5: even actually met her in person. Did you eventually meet her?
Speaker 7: I did, so. She wanted me to pick her up
Speaker 7: at her apartment, and she looked just like a pick.
Speaker 6: Okay, time okay?
Speaker 1: And then where does it go bad? Because you said
Speaker 1: it went you got bad signs immediately.
Speaker 6: Well, so this is where it started to get weird.
Speaker 7: So while I was at her place, I told her
Speaker 7: that I made some dinner reservations at European restaurants and
Speaker 7: she said, I don't know if we should do that.
Speaker 7: This kind of a weird thing to say, right, So
Speaker 7: I said, well, should I cancel the reservation? Well, like,
Speaker 7: what do you want to do? And she was just
Speaker 7: sort of noncommittal, you know, she said she was pretty tired.
Speaker 1: Oh didn't that annoy you? I'm sorry, but like you
Speaker 1: went through all this trouble and she's being kind of
Speaker 1: rude about it in her house.
Speaker 7: Well, it was less annoying and more just weird because
Speaker 7: she had confirmed a half hour before this, and she
Speaker 7: said that she was like ready to go to bed
Speaker 7: and you're.
Speaker 1: A night's over, Like Alexi said, you're inside her apartment
Speaker 1: and she's canceling the date in Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I was starting to get worried that maybe
Speaker 7: I didn't look like my pictures or something like did.
Speaker 2: I accidentally catfish this woman?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: Right, I didn't think I missrepresented myself, but I just
Speaker 7: didn't know.
Speaker 3: What was going on.
Speaker 5: Or maybe she has a certain standard of European restaurant
Speaker 5: that she wants to go to and the ones that
Speaker 5: you chose weren't up to that level.
Speaker 1: Or maybe she was asking you to go to bed
Speaker 1: with her immediately.
Speaker 2: Bro, that's just how works. Maybe you were so sexy
Speaker 2: that you walked in and she's like, cool, I am tired.
Speaker 2: It's the dinner.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was lying If I said that thought didn't
Speaker 7: briefly pass through my head, but that was not the
Speaker 7: vibe I.
Speaker 3: Was doing it all.
Speaker 5: Okay, So did you end up going out to eat anywhere?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: I only spent like fifteen minutes there at her apartment,
Speaker 7: and eventually I said, you know, I'll just go, and
Speaker 7: so I left and I've been texting her but she
Speaker 7: hasn't been responding, and I really want to go out
Speaker 7: with her, but I figured, like maybe I screwed up somehow,
Speaker 7: and I just don't know how.
Speaker 2: Well, obviously you did, but I just don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. It's our fault, for sure.
Speaker 1: It's hard to think that you should even give this
Speaker 1: girl any more time because of the way she treated you.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, it sounds like he wants
Speaker 5: to know what the reason was before he finally moves on.
Speaker 8: Well, and it.
Speaker 1: Also sounds like she's really hot, so he'll put up
Speaker 1: with a lot really hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, we're going to come back. We'll call Sophie
Speaker 5: and try to get her to agree to I mean,
Speaker 5: at least an American date, all the fast food cupon
Speaker 5: she can handle.
Speaker 2: We'll do it right after this hold On second date update.
Speaker 5: Out of all the dates that we've heard about this year,
Speaker 5: this one might be the shortest. Just fifteen minutes that
Speaker 5: Noah spent was Sophie Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Most of it was spent talking about how she didn't
Speaker 1: want to be in it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, or trying to figure out which European restaurant they
Speaker 5: should go to if they go out at all. It
Speaker 5: wasn't a very productive conversation till eventually she just said,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm tired.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to bed.
Speaker 8: God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would not even come with me. No,
Speaker 2: just like I'm sleepy. That was basically it.
Speaker 5: But now, to be fair, Noah did say she is
Speaker 5: very hot, and hot girls do require more beauty sleep,
Speaker 5: so we should probably give her a little bit.
Speaker 2: Of grace on that works, so I've heard.
Speaker 1: I will say, I feel like I dropped a couple
Speaker 1: points since kids, and it's not because of anything other
Speaker 1: than just the lack of sleep.
Speaker 2: Oh, just a couple of points.
Speaker 5: To at least get me some answers out of this, right, Brooke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know that you should probably
Speaker 1: go out with her again? What do I know?
Speaker 4: You're hey, what if he did something wrong? We don't know.
Speaker 7: Well, that's the thing. I just want to know if
Speaker 7: I did do something wrong, what it was, and maybe
Speaker 7: still give me a second chance.
Speaker 1: Okay, So but remember, no matter how hot she is,
Speaker 1: self respect is priceless.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah, half of heartless audience.
Speaker 2: Just to thank you for that, Conrad, Brooke, here we go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dial Sophie.
Speaker 5: Hopefully we can get her to agree to if not
Speaker 5: a European date, just an American style one.
Speaker 2: But let's see what she has to say. Here we go. Hello, Hey,
Speaker 2: is this Sophie?
Speaker 3: Yes? This is she? Who's this?
Speaker 5: Hey? This is a radio show that you're on right now.
Speaker 5: It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 3: What SOE? Glad to have you on it? This is random?
Speaker 3: You guys? How did you guys get my number?
Speaker 5: We got your number from one of our listeners that
Speaker 5: you went on a date with recently, a guy named Noah.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if we could even say you
Speaker 1: went on a date. He came to your house to
Speaker 1: take you on a date. It just never seemed to happen.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, according to him, because we spoke to him
Speaker 5: about it, it only lasted, he said, about fifteen minutes, and
Speaker 5: he was pretty bummed out.
Speaker 2: That's where it ended.
Speaker 3: What is this whole thing about? How am I involved
Speaker 3: in this?
Speaker 2: This is a segment called a second Date Update.
Speaker 5: It's where we try to help our listeners get answers
Speaker 5: for why things didn't go well on their first meetup
Speaker 5: or why there hasn't been a second one. So we're
Speaker 5: just trying to help know a figure out if he
Speaker 5: did something wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's pretty easy to own that it could
Speaker 1: be him.
Speaker 5: I mean, and it is interesting that you said you
Speaker 5: were bummed out that you didn't spend more time together.
Speaker 2: Can you elaborate what you mean?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 8: Like I tried to give him some hints about what
Speaker 8: I want for our first date, and I kind of
Speaker 8: told him I wanted to do a European style date.
Speaker 6: Okay, and we heard that, Oh he told you that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he mentioned that you had brought it up and
Speaker 5: that it was something you wanted to do. He wasn't
Speaker 5: one hundred percent sure what you meant by a European date.
Speaker 8: Though, so I tried to like give him more hints,
Speaker 8: Like I brought up like Scandinavian date, Norwegian date, I
Speaker 8: like listed those three things and was hoping if.
Speaker 3: He didn't know, maybe he'd google it. Here's the deal.
Speaker 8: Like, after college, I traveled a lot, Yeah, and I
Speaker 8: became more used.
Speaker 3: To that style of dating. Are you guys picking up
Speaker 3: what I'm putting down?
Speaker 7: Because he definitely just what's a European style of dating?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: So? I know this is like on the radio.
Speaker 8: I don't want to be inappropriate, but when you go
Speaker 8: on a first date, you're with that person, you hang
Speaker 8: out at like their home or your home.
Speaker 3: And then you go out and eat. Makes sense, you
Speaker 3: mean more than hangout.
Speaker 8: Yes, so, like it's the opposite in America where you
Speaker 8: have to like play games and I'm small talk, try
Speaker 8: to impress each other. But in Norway, you like, get together,
Speaker 8: get all of the nerves out.
Speaker 1: O you test the chemistry right away.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like.
Speaker 7: A pre agreement, like you come over.
Speaker 4: Let's because you were a tourist there seeing there, it's
Speaker 4: like beautiful.
Speaker 1: The Norwegian mat are like, no, we swear, this is
Speaker 1: how we do it.
Speaker 5: You're saying that's what you were wanting to do by
Speaker 5: European dates.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I thought he knew that's what I wanted,
Speaker 8: but he just didn't seem interested when he got when you.
Speaker 1: Did say, when you said, oh I'm tired, I need
Speaker 1: to go to bed, you wanted him to come with you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, okay, interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that did not show up on
Speaker 1: a Google search.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I promise you he was not on standing the
Speaker 5: hints that you were laying down for him, but I
Speaker 5: way for dinner, he really was a European style dinner.
Speaker 5: But now I assure you he probably understands because he
Speaker 5: has been listening to this conversation on the other line
Speaker 5: waiting to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Are you joking.
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 8: Why are you embarrassed?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want him to know this?
Speaker 3: Not now I feel horrible.
Speaker 2: Well, don't feel feel terrible.
Speaker 5: Just talk to him because Noah's there, right, Noah.
Speaker 6: Hi, yeah, Hi, yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 1: He's like the biggest missed opportunity of my life.
Speaker 6: Well, hi, hi, Sophie. U h, I'm trying to understand.
Speaker 7: You wanted to, like, you know, do the thing and
Speaker 7: then and then go to dinner.
Speaker 2: His voice.
Speaker 3: Guys, So I tried. I really tried giving you the hints.
Speaker 3: But if you do it that way.
Speaker 8: The Norwegian way, then all that tension is gone and
Speaker 8: you can really enjoy each other's company and get to
Speaker 8: know each other on the date.
Speaker 2: Oh, I am.
Speaker 1: Going to be so fascinated by our Norwegian listener feedback
Speaker 1: on the podcast on this one.
Speaker 2: Actually, that does make a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: If you get all the stress out early, then you
Speaker 5: can just bet yourself more.
Speaker 2: When you're going out.
Speaker 5: Idiots, Well, I'm not saying I would do it, but
Speaker 5: mentally it makes sense.
Speaker 2: To me, like you're more relaxed that yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm tired. No, what do you think about that?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I think it's cool. It's just kind
Speaker 6: of surprising, I mean because I just had never heard that,
Speaker 6: you know, but I mean sure, I'm down for that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Okay, well that was then the moment has kind of passed.
Speaker 1: Now you're not going to give a guy a chance
Speaker 1: to learn the Norwegian way.
Speaker 8: I just don't know if he's as assert as I want.
Speaker 3: Oh, the person I'm dating to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was trying to be a
Speaker 1: respectful right like he was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to like presume anything.
Speaker 7: I just I think you're gorgeous and I just really
Speaker 7: wanted to do my best to do the right thing.
Speaker 7: But if you want me to be assertive, I mean,
Speaker 7: I'm ready to take you to Norway whenever you want.
Speaker 8: I will say, I do think it's kind of sweet
Speaker 8: that even though I didn't really explain it to you,
Speaker 8: you still got these radio people to contact me.
Speaker 3: And to figure it out. And I think that's kind
Speaker 3: of cool.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I mean that is how they do it
Speaker 7: in europe European.
Speaker 5: Listeners are going to be like, yeah, So, now that
Speaker 5: Noah has heard everything and he's fully clued into what
Speaker 5: you were going for, would you be willing to give
Speaker 5: him another chance to have a proper European first date
Speaker 5: with you? Because if you do, we're willing to pay
Speaker 5: for the date, just the date, though nothing else.
Speaker 7: Look Sophie, I will do all the research on Norwegian
Speaker 7: style dating. I will call a Norwegian Yeah, I will
Speaker 7: phone a friend all. I will make sure that I
Speaker 7: am prepared and it'll be the best date you've ever had.
Speaker 1: Promise.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a lot to live up to. I'm definitely
Speaker 3: down to try again.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, you got to.
Speaker 7: Show up with the bare minimum on you know what,
Speaker 7: run to the bedroom ready.
Speaker 5: Well, congratulations, Noah, you got yourself. I guess the first date,
Speaker 5: first European style date for yourself.
Speaker 6: Thank you, guys.
Speaker 7: It's Sophie. Like, before we get off here, like, should
Speaker 7: I go on Amazon and buy like a Norwegian flag
Speaker 7: because I'll wear that.
Speaker 6: And only that I don't want?
Speaker 3: You know, that's hilarious.
Speaker 6: Opened to surprises.
Speaker 2: Right ready for a full salute of that flag right
Speaker 2: up the flagpole congratulations. Definitely let us know how the
Speaker 2: first date goes.
Speaker 1: Not all the details though, Yeah, just.
Speaker 2: A video will do. Yeah, brooking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 6: Brook.
Speaker 5: You ever feel like you were born in the wrong country?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, I feel like I maybe have done Norwegian dating
Speaker 1: and not even.
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, it seems more like your style.
Speaker 5: It calls like this make me feel like I should
Speaker 5: have been Scandinavia. I knew it, and by the way,
Speaker 5: I did google it. I typed in Norway sex and
Speaker 5: a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I wanted to do my.
Speaker 5: Research and a lot of things came up, and it
Speaker 5: did say casual intimacy is more common in Norway than
Speaker 5: it is in other cultures.
Speaker 1: It's kind of that whole region up there. They hate
Speaker 1: small talk.
Speaker 4: Aren't they also hotter?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I told you, but long in Norway, right,
Speaker 5: Some people believe that style of dating actually really helps.
Speaker 5: Not everybody agrees with it, though, to each their own.
Speaker 5: But I feel like Columbia was the big tourist destination
Speaker 5: for dudes last year. Norway is going to be seeing
Speaker 5: a big uptick after this.
Speaker 1: Goes to air, probably just because they were trying to
Speaker 1: get hair transplants.
Speaker 2: Whatever. It is I'm on that plane too.
Speaker 5: You want to you want some help in your dating life,
Speaker 5: European or American style will try to help you out.
Speaker 5: Just email the show. We'll call that person who's not
Speaker 5: calling you back. And go check out all of our
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