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Speaker 1: Well, I definitely learned something today in our brand new

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Speaker 1: second date update. Yeah, we all get Jeffrey in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and this woman has a very unique style of dating.

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Speaker 2: I'm really well.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too into it because I

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Speaker 3: To spoil it for you.

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Speaker 1: So let us know what you think, Yes, you think

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Speaker 1: or I've ever heard of it before? I mean that also,

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Speaker 1: I would like to know, especially to our international listens,

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Speaker 1: absolutely because we love reading your comments.

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Speaker 3: When you see Alexis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brandon Martin said, currently in the hospital. My wife

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Speaker 4: just had our third baby. Shout out theo archer. But

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Speaker 4: I'm still here to get my fixed on our YouTube page.

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Speaker 2: What a beautiful name.

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Speaker 3: Three kids?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is so cool. Yeah, and you're still

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Speaker 1: on our YouTube, Brooke and Jeffery YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is there, it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, congratulations and make sure you give you know your

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Speaker 1: wife all the flowers she deserves. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: locks there, especially the third time around. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get your brand new second date updates started right now.

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Speaker 2: Date update.

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Speaker 5: What are the classic signs that your date is not

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Speaker 5: going well?

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Speaker 2: Maybe they keep forgetting your name.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they asked the waiter for separate checks before you

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Speaker 5: even order out, or they FaceTime their mom trying to

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Speaker 5: hook you up with her instead. I mean, you.

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Speaker 6: Upgrading dates.

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Speaker 2: They liked the show.

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Speaker 5: May it's not as bad about I thought, But our

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Speaker 5: listener Noah said he saw clear signs immediately on his

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Speaker 5: date that things were just not going right immediately.

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Speaker 1: That means she's not even given you a chance.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from him, Noah, Welcome to the show man.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Hi, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: God immediately this is terrible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So tell us about the name of this

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Speaker 5: lady and how you met her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So her name is Sophie, and we met on

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Speaker 7: a dating app. When I saw her picture, I mean,

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Speaker 7: she's totally my type. She's got these beautiful brown eyes,

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Speaker 7: long dark hair. I mean, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 7: I just felt like I was lucky that she matched

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a nice compliment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 7: And we started like messaging really quickly, and the messaging

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Speaker 7: I got the impression that she's like a worldly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like she's a traveler, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: Like what from her pictures that she was traveling.

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Speaker 7: No, No, just like the way she was talking. You know,

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Speaker 7: she would like bring up weird facts about like countries

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool and you like that about her obviously, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean I admit I haven't really traveled much in

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's somebody, yeah, introduce it to you.

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Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, I mean it was. I was all about it.

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Speaker 7: And eventually it got to the point where I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: Does that mean it dinner starts at eleven pm?

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Speaker 7: It was kind of weird thing, right, Like I didn't

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Speaker 5: Like actually in Europe and travel there, or just a

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Speaker 7: You know, I didn't get the impression she wanted to

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Speaker 7: It was like Scandinavia, like the Nordic countries or something,

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Speaker 7: and Okay, let's go have some pickled fish.

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Speaker 4: Oh there's a Scanningion coffee shop here that's really good.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe she wanted to go Dutch, meaning she wants

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Speaker 7: And I didn't want to like ask anything, because they

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I had a history of this. I

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Speaker 2: We can't go to German because that glug.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, I better to ask forgiveness and permission.

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Speaker 7: This is okay, And so I just rolled the dice

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Speaker 7: And I was even worried, like my car's a Japanese car, Like,

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Speaker 2: Taking this too much?

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Speaker 4: But she'd move there.

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Speaker 5: You're like way up in your own head before you've

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Speaker 7: I did, so. She wanted me to pick her up

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Speaker 1: And then where does it go bad? Because you said

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Speaker 6: Well, so this is where it started to get weird.

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Speaker 7: So while I was at her place, I told her

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Speaker 7: This kind of a weird thing to say, right, So

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Speaker 7: I said, well, should I cancel the reservation? Well, like,

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Speaker 7: sort of noncommittal, you know, she said she was pretty tired.

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Speaker 1: Oh didn't that annoy you? I'm sorry, but like you

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Speaker 7: Well, it was less annoying and more just weird because

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Speaker 1: A night's over, Like Alexi said, you're inside her apartment

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I was starting to get worried that maybe

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Speaker 2: I accidentally catfish this woman?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Right, I didn't think I missrepresented myself, but I just

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Speaker 3: What was going on.

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Speaker 5: Or maybe she has a certain standard of European restaurant

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Speaker 1: Or maybe she was asking you to go to bed

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Speaker 2: Bro, that's just how works. Maybe you were so sexy

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Speaker 2: It's the dinner.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was lying If I said that thought didn't

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Speaker 3: Was doing it all.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So did you end up going out to eat anywhere?

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Speaker 7: I only spent like fifteen minutes there at her apartment,

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Speaker 7: so I left and I've been texting her but she

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously you did, but I just don't know what

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Speaker 2: it is. It's our fault, for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to think that you should even give this

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, it sounds like he wants

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Speaker 8: Well, and it.

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Speaker 1: Also sounds like she's really hot, so he'll put up

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, we're going to come back. We'll call Sophie

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Speaker 5: and try to get her to agree to I mean,

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Speaker 5: at least an American date, all the fast food cupon

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Speaker 2: We'll do it right after this hold On second date update.

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Speaker 5: Out of all the dates that we've heard about this year,

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Speaker 5: this one might be the shortest. Just fifteen minutes that

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Speaker 1: Most of it was spent talking about how she didn't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, or trying to figure out which European restaurant they

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to bed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would not even come with me. No,

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Speaker 2: just like I'm sleepy. That was basically it.

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Speaker 5: But now, to be fair, Noah did say she is

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Speaker 2: Of grace on that works, so I've heard.

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Speaker 1: I will say, I feel like I dropped a couple

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Speaker 2: Oh, just a couple of points.

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Speaker 5: To at least get me some answers out of this, right, Brooke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know that you should probably

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Speaker 7: Well, that's the thing. I just want to know if

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Speaker 1: Okay, So but remember, no matter how hot she is,

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Speaker 1: self respect is priceless.

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Speaker 5: Blah blah blah, half of heartless audience.

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Speaker 2: Just to thank you for that, Conrad, Brooke, here we go.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna dial Sophie.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully we can get her to agree to if not

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Speaker 5: a European date, just an American style one.

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Speaker 2: But let's see what she has to say. Here we go. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 2: is this Sophie?

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Speaker 3: Yes? This is she? Who's this?

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Speaker 5: Hey? This is a radio show that you're on right now.

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Speaker 5: It's called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 3: What SOE? Glad to have you on it? This is random?

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Speaker 3: You guys? How did you guys get my number?

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Speaker 5: We got your number from one of our listeners that

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Speaker 5: you went on a date with recently, a guy named Noah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if we could even say you

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, according to him, because we spoke to him

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Speaker 2: That's where it ended.

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Speaker 3: What is this whole thing about? How am I involved

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Speaker 2: This is a segment called a second Date Update.

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Speaker 5: It's where we try to help our listeners get answers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's pretty easy to own that it could

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Speaker 5: I mean, and it is interesting that you said you

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Speaker 2: Can you elaborate what you mean?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 8: Like I tried to give him some hints about what

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Speaker 8: I want for our first date, and I kind of

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Speaker 8: told him I wanted to do a European style date.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and we heard that, Oh he told you that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he mentioned that you had brought it up and

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Speaker 8: Though, so I tried to like give him more hints,

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Speaker 8: Like I brought up like Scandinavian date, Norwegian date, I

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Speaker 8: like listed those three things and was hoping if.

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Speaker 3: He didn't know, maybe he'd google it. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 8: Like, after college, I traveled a lot, Yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: To that style of dating. Are you guys picking up

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Speaker 3: what I'm putting down?

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Speaker 7: Because he definitely just what's a European style of dating?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: So? I know this is like on the radio.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to be inappropriate, but when you go

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Speaker 8: on a first date, you're with that person, you hang

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Speaker 3: And then you go out and eat. Makes sense, you

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Speaker 8: Yes, so, like it's the opposite in America where you

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Speaker 8: have to like play games and I'm small talk, try

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Speaker 8: get all of the nerves out.

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Speaker 1: O you test the chemistry right away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's like.

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Speaker 7: A pre agreement, like you come over.

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Speaker 4: Let's because you were a tourist there seeing there, it's

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Speaker 1: The Norwegian mat are like, no, we swear, this is

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Speaker 5: You're saying that's what you were wanting to do by

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I thought he knew that's what I wanted,

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Speaker 8: but he just didn't seem interested when he got when you.

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Speaker 1: Did say, when you said, oh I'm tired, I need

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, okay, interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that did not show up on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I promise you he was not on standing the

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Speaker 5: But now I assure you he probably understands because he

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Speaker 3: Are you joking.

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Why are you embarrassed?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want him to know this?

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Speaker 3: Not now I feel horrible.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't feel feel terrible.

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Speaker 5: Just talk to him because Noah's there, right, Noah.

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Speaker 6: Hi, yeah, Hi, yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: He's like the biggest missed opportunity of my life.

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Speaker 6: Well, hi, hi, Sophie. U h, I'm trying to understand.

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Speaker 7: You wanted to, like, you know, do the thing and

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Speaker 7: then and then go to dinner.

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Speaker 2: His voice.

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Speaker 3: Guys, So I tried. I really tried giving you the hints.

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Speaker 3: But if you do it that way.

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Speaker 8: The Norwegian way, then all that tension is gone and

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Speaker 8: you can really enjoy each other's company and get to

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Speaker 8: know each other on the date.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I am.

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Speaker 1: Going to be so fascinated by our Norwegian listener feedback

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Speaker 2: Actually, that does make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 5: If you get all the stress out early, then you

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Speaker 2: When you're going out.

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Speaker 5: Idiots, Well, I'm not saying I would do it, but

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Speaker 2: To me, like you're more relaxed that yeah, well yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm tired. No, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I think it's cool. It's just kind

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Speaker 6: you know, but I mean sure, I'm down for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well that was then the moment has kind of passed.

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Speaker 1: Now you're not going to give a guy a chance

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Speaker 8: I just don't know if he's as assert as I want.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he was trying to be a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to like presume anything.

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Speaker 7: I just I think you're gorgeous and I just really

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Speaker 7: But if you want me to be assertive, I mean,

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Speaker 7: I'm ready to take you to Norway whenever you want.

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Speaker 8: I will say, I do think it's kind of sweet

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Speaker 3: And to figure it out. And I think that's kind

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I mean that is how they do it

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Speaker 5: Listeners are going to be like, yeah, So, now that

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Speaker 5: Noah has heard everything and he's fully clued into what

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Speaker 5: with you? Because if you do, we're willing to pay

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Speaker 5: for the date, just the date, though nothing else.

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Speaker 7: Look Sophie, I will do all the research on Norwegian

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Speaker 7: style dating. I will call a Norwegian Yeah, I will

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Speaker 7: phone a friend all. I will make sure that I

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Speaker 7: am prepared and it'll be the best date you've ever had.

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Speaker 1: Promise.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a lot to live up to. I'm definitely

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, you got to.

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Speaker 7: Show up with the bare minimum on you know what,

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Speaker 7: run to the bedroom ready.

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Speaker 5: Well, congratulations, Noah, you got yourself. I guess the first date,

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Speaker 6: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 7: It's Sophie. Like, before we get off here, like, should

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Speaker 7: I go on Amazon and buy like a Norwegian flag

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Speaker 7: because I'll wear that.

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Speaker 6: And only that I don't want?

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Speaker 3: You know, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 6: Opened to surprises.

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Speaker 2: Right ready for a full salute of that flag right

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Speaker 2: up the flagpole congratulations. Definitely let us know how the

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Speaker 1: Not all the details though, Yeah, just.

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Speaker 2: A video will do. Yeah, brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 6: Brook.

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Speaker 5: You ever feel like you were born in the wrong country?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, I feel like I maybe have done Norwegian dating

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Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, it seems more like your style.

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Speaker 5: It calls like this make me feel like I should

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Speaker 5: have been Scandinavia. I knew it, and by the way,

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Speaker 5: I did google it. I typed in Norway sex and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do my.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of that whole region up there. They hate

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Speaker 4: Aren't they also hotter?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I told you, but long in Norway, right,

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Speaker 5: Some people believe that style of dating actually really helps.

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Speaker 5: Not everybody agrees with it, though, to each their own.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like Columbia was the big tourist destination

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Speaker 1: Goes to air, probably just because they were trying to

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Speaker 1: get hair transplants.

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Speaker 2: Whatever. It is I'm on that plane too.

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Speaker 5: You want to you want some help in your dating life,

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Speaker 5: European or American style will try to help you out.

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Speaker 5: Just email the show. We'll call that person who's not

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Speaker 5: calling you back. And go check out all of our

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Speaker 5: Second Date podcasts. They're up online wherever you get yours.

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Speaker 5: Abrooke and Jeffrey