1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea, Hi? What is going on? 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: Not too much, just loving the fall weather. You've been 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: traveling all over though. Where are you headed? 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Well? I'm performing in Milwaukee on Friday night, and then 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: I have two shows in Chicago Saturday, Sunday, Milwaukee Sat. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: And Friday night. And then where is that? What's the theater? Oh, 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Bradley's Symphony Center, and then the Chicago Theater Saturday and 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Sunday night. Oh shit, and then another show Sunday night. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: But that's sold out. Chicago first show is sold out. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: We have tickets available for Saturday night, October twenty eighth, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: and tickets available for Milwaukee Thursday night, October twenty six 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: I am in New York City waiting for I just 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: had to get some more knee surgery. I had to 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: get my hat cleaned out, so I am off the pills. 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: I had a two day party, pill party, and then 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: I have to throw them. Well, I don't throw them 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: away because they're gone. They're gone after two days. And 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: that's how any excuse to be put under? Yeah, and 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: he excuse to be put under. But my doctor said, 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: this will allow me afford me the ability to ski 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: without pain because my knee has really been acting since 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: my worka so I'm going to either get my leg 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: removed and replaced. I'm waiting for them to come out 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: with some sort of knee enhancement replacement thing where you 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: don't even have to get surgery but be put under obviously. Yeah, 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I just think it's a matter of months before they 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: have some new technology or AI comes up with a 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: new knee or something. Yeah, you know. So anyway, we 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: have one of my childhood crushes on today mine too. 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: His name is John Stamos. I'm very excited about today. 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: I know he has a new book out. What is 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: it called? 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: It is called if You would Have Told Me? 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: If you would Have Told Me? Okay, well, we're going 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: to see what he is going to tell us because 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of juicy stuff in that book. So 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: he did tell us a lot of things. A lot 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: of celebrity books coming out lately with a lot of 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: insight and inside scoop. He is a three time Emmy 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Award No TV Film and Theater actor and his memoir 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: is called If You would Have Told Me, and it's 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: out this week. Please welcome John Stamos. How are you, honey? 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: Pretty good. 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. John Stamos is in the house. Everybody, John my 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: childhood crush. I loved you so much when I was 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: talking about you. I mean not to say I don't 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: love you now, I mean you're very attractive. 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: So I'm getting old. Well we all are I love 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: I have a crush on you, oh, because you're smart 50 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: and you're beautiful and I love Remember when I was 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: on your other show. 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, a bit, I've interviewed you before. 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: Are you doing good? You look great? 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 55 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. You talk about being happy now and 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: stuff that makes me happy. 57 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: Oh are you happy? 58 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: I am? 59 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what what? I was reading your book? 60 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: You guys, Yeah, yes, of course. The book is called 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: if you would have told me it's out this week, 62 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: it's John Stamos's it's your first. 63 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: Book, yes, right, yeah, I want to talk to you 64 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: about the process, because. 65 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Well, what do you want to talk about? Let's get started. 66 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: How was it? 67 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: I like, I mean, listen, it's a very different medium 68 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: than everything that you're probably used to. So if this 69 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: is your first book, I can understand you probably feel 70 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: a little bit overwhelmed, right. 71 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I feel good now that it's done. 72 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: But then no, no, we have to gotten. You don't 73 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: have to gotten sell it. 74 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Sell it and promote it, and that is a different beast. 75 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: But you know what I find that is nice and 76 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: refreshing about books. And maybe you can think about this 77 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: while you're promoting it. It's like you're not promoting a 78 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: project that you're not completely responsible for. It's your story, right, 79 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: so they're your truths and then you get to just 80 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: talk about yourself in the most kind of I feel like, 81 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: most organic way, rather than promoting a show or a movie. 82 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: You're right, Yeah, it has been interesting that the interviews 83 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: I've done so far, especially the doing this long form, 84 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: because you can really get into because there's a lot 85 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: of you know, intricate stuff in the book and ups 86 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: and down and toffic. But to do it, you know, 87 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: do a quick pop on it. 88 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: It's difficult, right, yes, absolutely, but you want to get 89 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: people interested enough to buy it. Listen, there's a lot 90 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: of interesting stuff in this book. 91 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: And can I ask you a question, So therapies you've 92 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: been that's your Do you think. 93 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: You're interviewing me right now? 94 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: Is that what you're not trying to I just I'm 95 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: fascinated by you always, and I like to ask questions. 96 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I went to therapy for about two years, intense therapy 97 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: with the sky Dan Siegel, and it changed my I 98 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: mean it took a while. Like if someone said, oh, 99 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: therapy was going to take two years and then probably 100 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: two years of absorbing what you learned in therapy, I 101 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: would have been like, that's too fucking long, like fuck it. 102 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: But I went in before I knew how long it 103 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: was going to take, and so it was like. 104 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: You think it was a couple a couple of a 105 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 3: couple of seconds. 106 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I thought I'm pretty smart, like I'll 107 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: get this quickly. And then as soon as you get deeper, 108 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: have you are you in therapy? 109 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I talk about in the book to this 110 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: guy Phil Stutz, who's sort of a famous Oh yeah. 111 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: Stuts, the one that they did the documentary. 112 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: Was right, Yeah, okay, I was going to way before. 113 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: I think it was like twelve years ago. I can't 114 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: remember who sent me there. Maybe I had saga go 115 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: I said, we can't be friends anymore until you go 116 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: to therapy. Oh yeah, he was. He was there till 117 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: he died. How he still owes film money? Phil told 118 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: me he said he didn't pay for his last session. 119 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't need the money. 120 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: So it helped you. 121 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: Then it helped me, Yes, it helped me immensely. It 122 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: helped me with my self awareness. It helped me understand 123 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: the way that I the vibes I'm giving off if 124 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: my personality was coming before any sort of thoughtfulness. So 125 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: now I'm a little bit more thoughtful and careful with 126 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: my personality rather than throwing it out there. It's not 127 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: necessary for me to insert myself all the time. 128 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: Mike, I said, you've already chimed the world. Stop. You 129 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: don't have to do anymore. Just sit back and you know, yes, 130 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: stuff trying is hard. Maybe that's you. 131 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Well we get I think we get interesting conversation because 132 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: I think we get very wrapped up in who we. 133 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: Think we are and who we think they want us 134 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: to be. Yes, yeah, I had that a lot too, 135 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: you know, just coming under the scene, you know, being 136 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: a teen idol, and then you know some sort of 137 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 3: you know guy which wasn't me, like, you know, and 138 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: I'd go on Howard Stern or Jamie Kimmel or all 139 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: these shows, and I gas, oh, you're a playboy. Tell 140 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: me about all the girls you fucked I'm like, oh, yeah, 141 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: doesn't did that none of it? It was true, but 142 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: I felt I had to be that guy for that, 143 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: which is when I and they didn't. It wasn't their fault. 144 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: I played into it. But once I let that go, 145 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: and it's just hard to trust yourself that you're good 146 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: enough and you're interesting enough, and they're charming enough, right 147 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: just to sit and talk. And I didn't like I 148 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: went into growing up kicking and screaming. I just barely 149 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: made it too. I just didn't want to because it 150 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: just seemed boring to me and it really required sober 151 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: up to But it's you know, it's been the greatest. 152 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: I've just turned sixty. 153 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Really, yeah, that's amazing. 154 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: Well look I'm tired of that. 155 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: But you know it's okay, I'm forty. 156 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: We're gonna have a big birthday. 157 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Well in two years. I mean, yeah, I gotta start 158 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: planning it now if I'm going to have the right 159 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: kind of birthday party. I just want everyone to know 160 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: that I offered John an edible before this interview started, 161 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: because I forgot he was sober, and this is a 162 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: big problem with me as well. Back to the therapy thing, 163 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: real quick. One of the things I learned, which is 164 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: interesting what you're saying, is, you know, I always thought 165 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: I had to be the center, like the excitement of 166 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: a dinner party or like the entertainment for everybody. Like 167 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I thought that's what people expected of me, that I 168 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: had to go to every dinner party and just be 169 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: the funniest person there. And if there was another funny 170 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: person there, I was so relieved. I was like, let 171 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: them do it. But everyone is so insecure about their 172 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: own funny that people would look to me and be like, no, 173 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: you go, you do it, and I'll you know. So 174 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: it became this weird cycle of like you impress upon 175 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: yourself what you assume people are expecting of you, when 176 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: really maybe not everybody's expecting any of that. 177 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: No, And then they go to Chelsea's she got to 178 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: calm down, calm down, you know, say with me, I 179 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: thought I was had to be that, and I, you know, 180 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: drinking too, I thought I gotta be, you know, so 181 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: I can be funny and sharp. People see, you know, 182 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: it's fuzzy, is what they saw. Yeah. I bet you 183 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: feel that too, because you know you're you are people 184 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: see you on TV and you're funny, and you're sharp 185 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: and you're very smart too. I think that's what impresses 186 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: me most about you. 187 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate you lost you. 188 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: I know you lost your brother when you're young and 189 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: abandonment issues. But then there was another really sweet brother 190 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: who I met on your show. 191 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Is he still yeah, Roy is the best, He's the sweetest. 192 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I will he'll love that he still y passed? 193 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: Did he really? 194 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 195 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean I'll see you're doing great. By 196 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: the way, I'll see. 197 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Him in the afterlife anyway. You know how when did 198 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: he die a couple of years ago? Yeah? He was sweet, right, Yeah, 199 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: he was a sweetheart. One of the things that I 200 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: was reading about in your book that I took issue 201 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: with is your love of Disneyland and disney World. 202 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: Well I find that annoying, right, Yeah, to be honest 203 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: with you, I was, I was over it. I was done. 204 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: And then I met my wife and he's like me 205 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: back in you know last night. 206 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Your wife loves disney World? Yea, and she and so 207 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: what was the period of time you were able to 208 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: stay away from disney World or Disneyland a couple weeks? 209 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: It was a couple It was a while, I was 210 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: just it was enough already, I thought, you know, honestly, 211 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: but last night this. 212 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Why were you spending so much time there? 213 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: In the first it was have you been? 214 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? I was. 215 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: I was there honestly, like towards like before I sobered 216 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: up for ten years. It was kind of fun to 217 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: go and get drunk there, you know, And there was a. 218 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: It was dry. It was dry for a long time 219 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: time in the world. They didn't have any alcohol there at. 220 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: The at the Magic Kingdom, Catherine Magic Kingdom they don't, 221 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: but but Epcot they have. You'd have beers across the world. 222 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: But no. I did get over because it's when you 223 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: walk to those gates the rest of the world goes 224 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: away and it's just a it's you have. It's a 225 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: happy place to be. 226 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about the Playboy. Man. 227 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: You it used to be the last night. So I'm 228 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: leaving town. I'm so busy with all this book stuff. 229 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: And my wife says, and we do this once in 230 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 3: a while. I was like, I got a surprise. We're 231 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: going on date night tonight. This is the last night. 232 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: I said, great, where is it? I can't tell you, 233 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 3: you know, I said, O, yeah, I don't have a 234 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: lot of time, but I want to at least spend 235 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: one good night with you before we go. And so 236 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: I said, what do I wear? Said? Boots? Boots are good. 237 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: What else? Well, that's good what you have on? I said, 238 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: is it a hike? Is it outdoors? It might be 239 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: my not you know. So we get so we're driving 240 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: a by Pasadena. We're going up to this neighborhood house 241 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: and there's no parking. I said, what's the date night? 242 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: You and need to what's a Disney party? And there's 243 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: a couple of Disney legends that are going to be 244 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: there and a hundred other Disney any geek fans that 245 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: you're gonna take pictures? I said, this is date night? 246 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: And it was that nice people. But you know, I said, 247 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: every selfie I take you give me a hand job? 248 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: And did she did? 249 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: She? 250 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? It was about eight hundred. 251 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, when is she going to start giving you the 252 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: hand job? 253 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: I should have Scott something better? Huh probably, So, I 254 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: don't know, but she loves it. I'm you know, I'm. 255 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Just happy you're in a happy relationship. You know what 256 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: I mean? If you have to give a bunch of 257 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: hand jobs and go to a bunch of Disney events. 258 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't have to give that hand Oh no. 259 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: I mean if you have to get sorry to get 260 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: a bunch of hand jobs and go to a bunch 261 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: of Disney events, then that's the bed you made, and 262 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: now you're to lie in it. 263 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: You're right now. You can I ask you about this, 264 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: Joe Koy, because I. 265 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: Love that you think you're fucking interviewing. 266 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm interested. 267 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: I have a series of questions I want to ask 268 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: you already. 269 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be the greatest thing 270 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: ever to you. I was so happy for for you. 271 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know him much. But and then, but do 272 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: you feel like if you fall in love again, you 273 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: kind of keep it quiet for a couple of years. 274 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Probably you know. I don't need to learn that lesson twice. 275 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: Although I didn't even listen. To be very honest, I 276 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: don't feel regret or a rootful towards the way that 277 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I behaved publicly with him. I think that was a 278 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: very good exercise for me, and it was nice for 279 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: other people to see that side of me, because I've. 280 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: Never been soft. 281 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: It was a softer show, very. 282 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Like publicly in love before, so I don't really regret that, 283 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: even though I probably wouldn't choose to operate like that again, 284 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it's like, you know, 285 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: who needs to It's almost very like teenager ish. But 286 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: that's how it was cute. It was a thing. 287 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: It just felt so bad. 288 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: But it's okay. I mean, just a relationships end, you know, 289 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: and you learn from them, and and I think that 290 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: the most important thing to do as we get older 291 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: is to remember not to villainize or demonize the people 292 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: who've left our lives and actually look at them and say, 293 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you know what, what did that person bring out in me? 294 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: That someone that I hadn't been brought out in me before? 295 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: So I think that's okay. 296 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: I have like I think before taking top. 297 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Off, because John's turning me on. 298 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I think before I wrote this book, I would say, oh, 299 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: I have regrets. Yeah, this I didn't. I got dumped, 300 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: I got cheated on a man, And after writing I 301 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: were like, no, that's like what you said, Like, if 302 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: I didn't have those heartbreaks that happened, I wouldn't have 303 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: known how to be right for my marriage. 304 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: Now, well you're yeah, because especially because you were married 305 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: to Rebecca Romaine first before your current wife, and you 306 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: talk about that in the book, and you talk about 307 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: your therapist and that marriage ending right and your therapist 308 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: basically telling you that you weren't ready to be with 309 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: the one and that you had a lot of work 310 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: to do, right, So what were those conversations like. 311 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, it was more it was more about it was 312 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: heartbreaking and I didn't want it to end. And you know, 313 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: I always thought have kids and a thing and you know, 314 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 3: fairy tale ending. And when it did, it ripped me apart. 315 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: And I was angry for many years, too angry, and. 316 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't her or angry at the situation. 317 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: Well her, you know, as I learned. So I had 318 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: the first chapter I wrote was I thought I'd take 319 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: the hardest ones and I wrote about this terrible the 320 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: low point in my life. I had this dui and 321 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: I was driving drunkers drive around Beverly Hills, and I 322 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: went to rehab and I think it was there where 323 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: I discovered, like, so the steps you probably know something. 324 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: The fourth step is your resentments. So I was like, 325 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: she did this to me, she did that, And I'm 326 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: making this long list and the sponsors. Have you done 327 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: I said, noff, and then he goes, so, what part 328 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 3: did you play in that? I said, what do you mean? 329 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: What none? It might have played, even if it's one percent. 330 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: And I started writing and say, oh, yeah, yeah. And 331 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: it was the first time I really was honest about it. 332 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: And I had just as much to do with the 333 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: end of our marriage as she did, so you know, you. 334 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: Learn, yeah, yeah, what was that last thing that broke 335 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: the like the last straw that broke the camel's back 336 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: in the marriage? 337 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 3: I started to get emasculated, and I don't know how 338 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: much of it was her fault or how much was mine, 339 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: but I felt the relationship just was like she was 340 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: here and I was down here and I was, oh, 341 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 3: you're on TV. I'm and it just was not good. 342 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: And we split up for a while and we got 343 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: back together and it was there was a lot of 344 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: rules just didn't work, and I just said, this is 345 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 3: not working, you know, and we walked away. But I 346 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 3: have never seen her since. 347 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: But have you never spoken to her since? 348 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 3: The last time I talked to her was in this 349 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: But thank god, because I did more about myself, like 350 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go I would never go into a 351 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: relationship the same way, and thank god I didn't when 352 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: Caitlyn came around. 353 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: Right, And so how did you what tools did you 354 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: have or like that you developed over the years that 355 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: made you be able to like start in a healthy 356 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: way this relationship or healthier. 357 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean I knew that I wanted to. 358 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: I could get by for so many years with fifty 359 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: percent more than most people sixty percent maybe in anything work. 360 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: And I was just always afraid to give a hundred 361 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: because if you failed, then you're then Wow, you gave 362 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: it as all and you failed. So with the relationships, 363 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it my all. I'm gonna throw everything 364 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be and if it doesn't work, at least 365 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: I know how to do that right. Sober and loyal 366 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: and honest and all the stuff it and it it worked. 367 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 368 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it makes sense. How many years have 369 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: you been sober? 370 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: Close to eight? 371 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: Eight years? Okay, So would you consider that newly sober? No? 372 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was drinking into my fifties 373 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: and it just it was just time. 374 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: Well, you talk. You have a lot of examples in 375 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: the Book of Times where you I mean you don't 376 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: make yourself look good in this book and a lot 377 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: of areas, and I actually appreciate that because I also 378 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: like to be honest. You it's very important to be 379 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: honest and not to gloss over like and pretend like 380 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: you've got your crushing it all the time. 381 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: I started out that way. I was like, I'm going 382 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: to write a hero book. And I started writing like 383 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: this is sex pullshit, and it turned into a phuman 384 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, it was a human story because again, like 385 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: I never wanted. I never thought i'd write a book. 386 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't in my thing. I didn't think I was 387 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: sharp enough. And friends of mine that were writing, but 388 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: how do you do it? Why do you even start it? 389 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: I just didn't get it, didn't get it. And then 390 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: when Bob died, I wrote a beautiful obituary kind of 391 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: thing in La Times. I remember, and so people say, oh, 392 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: you're a good writer. And I had a kid too, 393 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: and I said, okay, so now I'm a father. What 394 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: was that like? And I just kept saying no, And 395 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: then I really thought about leaving something behind for him, 396 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: A love letter to all the beautiful people that have 397 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: come in and out of my life, to my wife, 398 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: and I've had a lot of mentors over the years 399 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: that I wanted to talk about. But then the clutch 400 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: was that I found I knew I had them, but 401 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: I dug up all these letters that my mom left me, 402 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: these little notes that she would leave me and my sisters. 403 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: I said, Okay, that's a good place to start. Yeah, 404 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: did your mom pass away? 405 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom and my dad are both Dad I'm 406 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: an orphan. I just have my brothers and sisters. 407 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: It's a lot five or so. 408 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's enough of us to go around. Plus we 409 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: have eight nieces and nephews, so there's like, you know, 410 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: we have a big family and all of them are 411 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: married or have girlfriends. And then we have like ten 412 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: cousins that live in LA so we just well not ten, 413 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: but I say ten as a round number, but there's 414 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: eight anyway. 415 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: Who lives at your house? 416 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 6: Now? 417 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: Do you have any I'm. 418 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: Actually living with No, I'm waiting for my house to 419 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: be built, and I am living with my neighbor. So 420 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: talk to me about being like a father. 421 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: This is something I always wanted, and through the book, 422 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: I was trying to find, like you do, like try 423 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: to find as many relatable issues you know, it's like, 424 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: how many people can relate tonight and play with the 425 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: beach boys people? 426 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: But well, you bring up another topic beach boys. You 427 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: learn transcendental meditation with beach boys, right, because you drum 428 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: for the beach boys. I don't do TM. I do 429 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: regular meditation, but I know a lot of people who 430 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: do TM. What Yeah, Howard does it for sure? How 431 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: do you? How would you. 432 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: Describe it TM? 433 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 434 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: You know it's meditate twice twenty minutes. I'm not very 435 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: good at it any more. I mean, I don't keep 436 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: up with it as much as they should. But even 437 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: just to sit for twenty minutes, and you say this 438 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: mantra over over again, one own mind. 439 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're not supposed to tell your mantra so 440 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: that much. I know. 441 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: I got it, Catherine, You're doing great, brother way. 442 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh think I'm just enjoying the conversation. 443 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: Well, so, wait, so I wanted to come up with 444 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: relatable things. Oh this is the point was that it 445 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: had something to do with sex. Gosh darn it. 446 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: What was it that you want to have sex with me? 447 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: I want it? I want it. Well, hey, honey, we're 448 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: going date night? Where is it going to be we'll 449 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: be at your house. Yeah, okay, And she was so 450 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 3: mad because I wouldn't take a tour of the house. 451 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: Is about this. It was Disney's house, lived there for 452 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: a little while, but it wasn't very big. And she's like, 453 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: come on, let's go on this tour. 454 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: But I want to know what you do for four 455 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: hours when you go to Walt Disney's house before the tour. 456 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: What's selfies with everybody there? 457 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 6: Oh? 458 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Really? 459 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Do you hate taking selfies? No? 460 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't mind. 461 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't mind it either. 462 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 3: I want it's easier than signing autographs. And I heard 463 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: you talking about like, you know, you spell a certain 464 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: name and that's not how I spelled it. That's not 465 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: my my mom mom spelled it wrong. 466 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. I once had a girl name like 467 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: it was Lafourtia, but she spelled it Lafourtia out of 468 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: book signing. This happened. She said her name was Lafortia, 469 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: but with the number four, so la apostrophe four and 470 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: then s H A E. And I was like, that 471 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: can't be on your license like a regular spelling. So 472 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: that's what I was like, Oh, fuck, I better be. 473 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: You have to ask when you're doing. You always go 474 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: like if it's if it's you know, Kate the normal way, 475 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: is it? Kate ka y t? 476 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I hate that. 477 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: You're also going to get carpal tunnel syndrome. 478 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 3: I writing because I've been signing. But wait, we were 479 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 3: talking about sex. I was trying to find relatable stuff. 480 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: I was talking about having a kid, right. 481 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that you have to have sex to have a kid. Yeah, 482 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: you do. Yeah. 483 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: I was trying to find where's the last time he 484 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: had six? 485 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: It's been a few months for me. 486 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we know. 487 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: Somebody in London? 488 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was. 489 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: I was on vacation, so I usually get most of 490 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: my action overseas. 491 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: Was it somebody who's met. 492 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 6: At a bar? 493 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 494 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: Wow. 495 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: I like that kind of interaction. 496 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: When I was single, And if I saw you at 497 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: a bar in London. First of all, be these guys 498 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: are not intimidated by you. 499 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Men are intimidated by me, and a lot of them 500 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: cannot perform. 501 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: Is it the glasses do you think? 502 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: No, I don't wear my glasses when I'm out. Those 503 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: are only for today. Because I was reading, men are 504 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: intimidated that how do you mean? And and it see 505 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: and it plays out like they have trouble performing sexually. 506 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: So a lot of times I will be out with 507 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: a man and you know, we're at a bar or something, 508 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: or at a club. I mean not that I'm a clubber, 509 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: but like when I'm in London, I go out. When 510 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: I'm in Spain, I'm out and I'll be like, do 511 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: you want to come back to my house? And then 512 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: we get back to my house and they cannot perform sexually. 513 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: This is a constant in my life and it's obviously 514 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: my personality, and men are just either scared or turned 515 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: off or I don't know, But why would they come 516 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: back to my house if they weren't going to be 517 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: able to perform? I don't get that. 518 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: There're the wrong guys, these guys. 519 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just keep auditioning different people and seeing 520 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: who could appen. 521 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: What happens. So you're in London, you say come back 522 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: to my place and the guy goes. 523 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll so once a guy was like, I go, 524 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: do you want to come back to my place? And 525 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: he left, He goes, he goes, I'm going to the bathroom, 526 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: and he goes, I'll be right back, and he never 527 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: came back. 528 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: I can't imagine any fool would do that. But see 529 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: the thing about these fantasy like and I try to 530 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: talk about it in here too, where when I was 531 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 3: a kid, some penhouse girl came into my dressing room 532 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: at General Hospital and had sex with me, and I 533 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: was depressed afterward, you know, and I think, you know, 534 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: I think people maybe think that our lives, they probably 535 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: think our lives are fantastic, right they pulled the curtain 536 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 3: behind like, oh she's fucked up, Yeah, captain. 537 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I like that scene too, because you 538 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: talk about like the glaring overhead light and the vinyl 539 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 540 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: Like it. 541 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't the fantasy. 542 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: No. I tried to Yeah again, I tried to find 543 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 3: the relatable stuff. I started off with getting this dui, 544 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: and so I thought, okay, that's a good place to start, 545 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: the hardest thing I thought. It turns out it wasn't. 546 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: And the five stages of grief there were more booze 547 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: and taccon bullshit. And then then the second chapter I wrote, 548 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: which happened to be the end, was the day I 549 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 3: found out that Bob died. And by this point, you know, 550 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: my five stages of grief were therapy and family and prayer, 551 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: you know, getting my shit together, and it was so 552 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: then I had to figure out how a to b Yeah, 553 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: but I tried not to be honest. You know a 554 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: lot of the times. My mother kept every teen magazine, 555 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: every calendar, every journal, every picture. You took a lot 556 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: of pictures, so it was sort of easy to fact 557 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: check everything as well. 558 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because you don't want to put out a 559 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: book like this and not be truthful. And I think 560 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: part of the catharsis of doing writing a book is 561 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: being able to be truthful because when you are in 562 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: the public eye, you have such little privacy that you 563 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: try to retain. I know this from being friends with 564 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: lots of celebrities, and I know you've been famous since 565 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: you were a little boy basically, so I've really never 566 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: had a private private life. You have to kind of 567 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: really protect what is private because so much of it 568 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: is public, and now with social media, everyone there's no privacy. 569 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not a private person. I don't care, like 570 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be private. I don't care if 571 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: people know about my personal stuff. I'm not that kind 572 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: of celebrity. But I can respect the fact that celebrities 573 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: feel that way. You know, they want they want something 574 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: that they can keep for themselves. So I get that, 575 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: but I think the true like, you know, when you 576 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: write a book like this, you kind of have to 577 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: give people something that they don't know. 578 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: It was very hard at first, and then I really 579 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: got into it and it was doing all and then 580 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: the audiobook was a trip to you. 581 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, that's annoying. I don't like. I don't love 582 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: recording that that could. 583 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: Be like thirty five days. They say it takes four 584 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: or five days. 585 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: First of all, it should not take you thirty five days. 586 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's like an elephant's gestation period. I don't 587 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand that should never take you. 588 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: It was my fault was rewriting it as I had 589 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: time to rewrite it. 590 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I don't like when they give 591 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: you direction when you're recording your audiobook, but they're like, 592 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: talk more slowly. I'm like, I don't talk slowly, so 593 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: what that doesn't sound like me? 594 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: I had a good dragon. I did this thing for 595 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: Amazon that that's that didn't come out or something, but 596 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 3: it was it was sleep. It was first to put 597 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: people to sleep, and I was like okay, and I 598 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: didn't really know what kind of voice I The Cowboy 599 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: and the Horse. Can you slow it down a little bit? People, okay, 600 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: the Cowboy and the Horse. Could you, sorry, Dan, can 601 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: you less inflection? We're trying to put people to sleep. 602 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: And the night up. All right, we're going to take 603 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: a break and we're going to be right back. And 604 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: we're right back. We're back, John Stamos. And guess what 605 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: we're doing now. We're going going to give advice to 606 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: the strangers. Okay, that's what we're doing. 607 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: And what's and okay, the show is about giving advice. 608 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: It's called Dear Chelsea. 609 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: I know I listened to it. Do you feel you're 610 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: qualified enough to give? 611 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 5: No? 612 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: Okay, but that doesn't matter. And by the way, yes, 613 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: actually I am because I'm right, I read, I listen, 614 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: and I care. So I think those are really. 615 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 3: Your super intelligent The last time you're on Howard Stern, 616 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: I was so impressed too with you. Do you remember that? 617 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: I don't know? Okay, So anyway, Catherine, what advice do 618 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: you need from me? Well we're going to see we 619 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: have letters and we have callers. What's the first one, Catherine? 620 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: So this first one comes from sober. 621 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's you, and then I guess your 622 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: alter ego. 623 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: Yes, it keeps me out of trouble being. 624 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: So I can see that, and I can see that 625 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: that you get into trouble. I don't get into. 626 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: That much trouble. I would tell me this though, in 627 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: order to get into that, in order to be picked 628 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: up by some British guy with bad teeth in a bar, 629 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 3: you'd have to be a little fucked up, right. 630 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean I'm drinking, yeah, and yeah, sometimes I smoke weed. 631 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes I do mushrooms, LSD. I like all sorts of microdosing, 632 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: So I do that a lot. I know you're jealous 633 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: right now. 634 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: A little bit. 635 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: I know a. 636 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: Lot of it. 637 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get into trouble. Trouble like, I have 638 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: a pretty good system going. 639 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: But I mean the inhibition's dropped down. Have you ever 640 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: been sober and just like met some guy in London 641 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: and ask them to come home. It takes a little 642 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: bit of right, Yeah, no, I haven't. Yeah, that was 643 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: a big part of it for me. It was. And 644 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 3: then you get yourself in it would be with the 645 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 3: wrong people and the wrong yeah type of right. 646 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, wowkay good, it is trying to 647 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: get me sober. 648 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: And no, sounds like you are sounds to have a problem. 649 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: Sounds like you're jealous. 650 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 6: H No. 651 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well let's keep this guy's sober. He's says dear Chelsea. 652 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 4: I'm a forty four year old gay man who's newly sober. 653 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 4: I started using drugs and alcohol when I was fifteen 654 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: and took to them right away. I loved the feeling 655 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: of being drunk or high, and I felt like it 656 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: took away all my problems. At first, I used socially, 657 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 4: and for many years it wasn't a problem in my life. 658 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 4: But after about twenty years it cut up with me 659 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: and turned into abuse. I hit my low when I 660 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 4: lost a really big job. I've been sober for ten 661 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 4: months now and plan to stay that way. My drug 662 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 4: use became such a daily part of my life. I 663 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 4: had something come up and something to come down, and 664 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: something to go really up and something to go really down. 665 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: I'm not working right now, by the way. No, but 666 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 4: you do mention in your book. You were like, yeah, 667 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: it was my own pharmises. I don't have a boyfriend, 668 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 4: and I'm not working right now, and I'm really missing 669 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: drugs and alcohol a lot. I'm having trouble finding joy 670 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: without my vices and worried I'll never have fun again. 671 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 4: Daily life and socializing seems boring to me. I know 672 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: you enjoyed drugs socially and thought you could help shed 673 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: some light on my scenario. Best sober, Oh, this is 674 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: perfect time. Just this is for you to answer because you. 675 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Know you have to speak to sobriety. I'm the one 676 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: who still uses and you don't, so. 677 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: You have to you do half of it. Then I'll 678 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: do this. 679 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: Well, okay, I would say that if you've been listen, 680 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: if drugs have caused you to lose a job, to 681 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: lose anything important in your life, you've made the right 682 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: decision by getting sober. For ten months you've been sober. 683 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: Do not throw that in the garbage. You need to 684 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: stay sober. And this is a test. These tests come 685 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: up all the time, right with sobriety, with life, with 686 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: ever you have to have. You can't do something for 687 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: ten months and expect your whole world to change and 688 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: for everything to be perfect for the rest of your life. 689 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: You're feeling down, and then this is a test for 690 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: you to get through to the other side, and I 691 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: promise there will be late at the end of this tunnel. 692 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: I've seen it. 693 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: Yes, speak to sobriety and that's it. 694 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: Exactly, And that was that same way you you were, sir, what's. 695 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: The same sold Just yeah, he just said sober. 696 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 3: Hang on, just hold on, hold on, holy because it 697 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: does get better. It's hard at first because all of 698 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: a sudden, when you're not doing drugs and drinking, all 699 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: you have is yourself and you're just like, oh, and 700 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: your life is probably pretty shitty from all that. And 701 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: then you go, well, what do I have? What am 702 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: my wife stay sober? What am I staying sober for? 703 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: I have nothing? 704 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: And also, don't define yourself like even you signing the 705 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: letter is sober, writing the letter is sober. It's like, 706 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: that's a very one dimensional way to look at yourself. 707 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: You're so much more than your sobriety. Even though the 708 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: sobriety is the most important thing for you to continue 709 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: doing right now, you're more than that. And once you 710 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: get through the like challenges of remaining sober, because the 711 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: first year is the most difficult, they say, and it's true. 712 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure I can only imagine that you are tested 713 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: and tempted so many times. Once you get through this year, 714 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: I promise you you will feel differently about your sobriety 715 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: and it won't be such a teen isn't that right? John? 716 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: One percent? And when the good things come to you, 717 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: and they will, I promise you they will. You go 718 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: to say the course, then you go, oh, I don't, 719 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: and they start to outweigh the you know, the drinking 720 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: and the drinking like we just said, it just would 721 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: take me down the I would, It would low hanging 722 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: fruit good. I'll take three of those, not and just 723 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: the comfort it brings you at the moment. But then 724 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 3: the next day you wake up, oh shit, I got 725 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: nothing matter what am I doing here? 726 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 5: All? 727 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: I wanted my whole life? Man, I don't know, but 728 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 3: this gentleman. I just wanted a family. I wanted kids. 729 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: I wanted a wife. I wanted someone who I loved. 730 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: My parents were great, you know, they had a good relationship, 731 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: and that's what I wanted. And it finally came to me. 732 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: But it would not have come if I slipped after 733 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: ten months or a year and people could see it 734 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: on me, you know, And when I stopped and I 735 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: could be clear and like you do. And now you 736 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 3: have it where you could just look at someone and 737 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: just be honest and boom boom, then the good stuff comes. 738 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: My wife would have run for the hills if she 739 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: saw how you know how it was before. I thought 740 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 3: it was cool, man, it was funny. 741 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I know, it's so funny. I had a friend that 742 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: was telling me the story. We were in my arca 743 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: this summer. A girlfriend of mine and I were and 744 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: she was saying she was taking some drug. I forget 745 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: what it was called. I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't 746 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: even familiar with it. But she was taking some street drug, 747 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: smoking something that's not very popular, but like in certain 748 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: areas of the country it is. Anyway, she was smoking, 749 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: and she thought she was crushing it, you know, she 750 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: thought she was going out being entertaining, having these nic 751 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: where she was so funny and so awesome and charming. 752 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: And she goes and then her friend took a video 753 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: and she was basically passed out, knotted out the entire 754 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: dinner like this, just sitting with her head down. And 755 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: she thought she had crushed that night. And she saw 756 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: that video and she never did that drug again, which 757 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: is a good way to keep people sober. 758 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: I know, I saw this shit like I was slumped 759 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: over in my car when the cops came and TMZ 760 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: has it. All I have to do is look at 761 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: that picture for one second. It makes me so second 762 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: kind of killed. I'm a fucking terrible man. And it 763 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: was on my way to go meet Sago by the 764 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: way with the palm, so I blame him. But I 765 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: want to say a little bit about my wife too, 766 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: because I'm making jokes and stuff about her. She is 767 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: the most wonderful. She's, first of all, the greatest mother sent, 768 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: maybe as good as my mom, and that says a lot. 769 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: And the conversation that we have in our house now 770 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: is so smart and so you know, sharp of politics, 771 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: about the world, about you know. My son's a flirt, 772 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: and he's more like her. I was not a flirt 773 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: at five five and a half. But he's terrible. He's 774 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: like her. He's always got. It was my birthday and 775 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: the other four or five girls bella stella, you know, 776 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: and he's looking at me like, Dad, help him. You 777 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: got yourself into this. But we were at Disney and 778 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: we were embarrassed in a couple. 779 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: Of in August and Disney World there too. 780 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, have a great test so much? No, I mean anyway, 781 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: So we're there and one we're there for two days. 782 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: One day we have a guide. She was a nice woman, 783 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: maybe fifty to fifty five, got of just a normal 784 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: and he didn't really pay attention. Day two we have 785 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: this thirty year old hot French girl and he's like, well, 786 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: and his plays and I can't do this because I'm 787 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: married now, but it's pretty good. It's like sola, what's 788 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: my favorite color, what's my favorite food? 789 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 5: You know? 790 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: And I'm like, can't you do better than that? Son? 791 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: And so he then I over here him saying I 792 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: have his girlfriend and her name is Bella and she's 793 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: really cute and she lives down the street. And then 794 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: the guides at each the rest of me. She walks 795 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: away just as she gets out of earshot. I swear 796 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: to god, he goes, why did I tell her I 797 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 3: have a girlfriend. But my point to that was that 798 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: we have these great conversations and we are very clear 799 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 3: with him that no means no and respect women. And 800 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: we didn't have that conversation in my home, but my 801 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: dad was that. My dad was so respectful to my 802 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: sisters and to my mom, and never held she wanted 803 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: to be a housewife and it was beautiful, and he 804 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: never held that over her. He never thought money or 805 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: anything like. He always thought that she had the more 806 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: important job, which she did. Stay sober, buddy, because you 807 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: know it's the thing. It's it's not easy. You know, 808 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: it's not easy thing. 809 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to go on to our next question. Yeah, 810 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: so let's let's move on to the next one. 811 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: Well, our next question comes from Chloe. She is joining 812 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: us here. She is Chloe with a kay. 813 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Chloe, my neighbor, was supposed to come on this podcast. 814 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Friends with Them Chloe, I mean yeah, I mean I 815 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: like Chloe. She's cute and sweet. She's the taller one, 816 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: the taller one, they're all very sweet. You can't say 817 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: that they're not nice and smart. 818 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: Whoever's making a dough for them. 819 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: Anyway, Well, Chloe says, I need your advice. I'm currently 820 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: in love with one of my best friends. I know 821 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: Taylor as old as time. And I actually did not 822 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 4: pick this one for the Disney reference. I just thought 823 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: it'd be a fun one. 824 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: I noticed my feelings for him about a year ago. 825 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: You're wearing a Mickey Mouse shirt looking she loves Disney World. 826 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: Because she knows how I feel about it, and Chelsea, 827 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: that's why n No, I don't want to bother you 828 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: with these fucking Disney Worlds. I mean, that was the 829 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: most upsetting part of your book to me, was the Disney. 830 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 4: No. 831 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: I just personally, I was like, really, this is what 832 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: you're doing in your spare time. I mean that was 833 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: I was. I was flabbergasted. Really, yeah, I didn't. 834 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: Know I used to go and take drugs there. You 835 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: would have liked that, Yeah. 836 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: I would have liked that version of you better. 837 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Key and the and the hair, Yes is focus. 838 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: That's the color of the tank top that I wore 839 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: in the Cocomo video. 840 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: That was a good song. So it's still okay, go 841 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: on solo, John, stay focused, focused, but just try and 842 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: listen to these are about the callers about to get 843 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: raising Bobby questions. 844 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: Where are they. 845 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: Come on? 846 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 4: You? 847 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: Just stay focused and watch what happens. 848 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 4: So I noticed my feelings for him about a year 849 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: ago and didn't want to act on them because he's 850 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: part of my core group of friends. We recently went 851 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: on a trip to celebrate a friend's thirtieth birthday, and 852 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: since we were the only single people in the group, 853 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: we were put in the singles room together and well, 854 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 4: after many cocktails, we ended up hooking up. 855 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: I need your advice on what to do next. 856 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 4: His best friend told me that I'm his dream girl, 857 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: but he's hesitant to make a move because he doesn't 858 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 4: want to lose our friendship. I initiated the hookup. Do 859 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: I need to also initiate the next move? And do 860 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 4: I tell him how I feel or risk losing our 861 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: friendship forever? 862 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: Chloe, this is the first time you've been one step 863 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: ahead of me the entire the entire episode. John just 864 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: put on his headphones before I did, and that was pretty. 865 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: Quick, or observen I've I've had him since I walked 866 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: in the room. 867 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: Chloe, Hi, Hi, Chloe, how are you? 868 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 6: I'm doing great? 869 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: How are you? 870 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Guys? Chloe with a K. 871 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 6: Chloe with the K. 872 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: Is our special guest and he's going to start to 873 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: ask you a series of questions. I'm right to referred 874 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: to it as a barrage. 875 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 3: But so so how long have you been close? Like 876 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: how does that? Have you ever fall in love with 877 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: a friend? 878 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 879 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had sex with them and thought I was 880 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: in love with them, And then. 881 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 3: Are you in love with him? Do you love him? 882 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 6: I definitely do. He's the dream of man, He's the 883 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: total package. 884 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: Well, she's worried about his family, his reaction and if 885 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: he feels the same way because he's a little bit 886 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: more trepidacious than she is. Right, yes, exactly. 887 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 3: You guys hooked up, right, and so afterwards was it like, uh, 888 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: you know, like straight up you know, like like why 889 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: do we do that? 890 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 6: Or No, not at all. It was just very much 891 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 6: like I think we're both in the zone of, well 892 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 6: we did that. Now we either go back to just 893 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 6: being completely friends, or we naga maybe of friends with benefits, 894 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 6: a relationship, whatever that next step would be. 895 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: Would you be okay with friends with benefits? 896 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be opposed. 897 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: Oh is he there? Can we talk to him? 898 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: No, he's not here, obviously not there about it? 899 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: Or is a teacher? 900 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 2: That's very cute. 901 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful, that's cute. 902 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I think you should just listen. I think there's only 903 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: one avenue forward, and you just need to make this happen. 904 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: I think you need to just go to him and 905 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: be very honest about how strong your feelings are. You 906 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: just said you love him, you feel like you're in 907 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: love with him? Yes, yeah, go for it. Go tell 908 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: him you know what's he gonna and if he says 909 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: no and he resists it, then be like listen, You've 910 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: told him your truth. Hopefully he will come to his senses. 911 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: But you can't move forward without honesty. You only get 912 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: to live once. You should just go take a leap 913 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: of faith and hope that it works out. And it 914 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: probably will. 915 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I just needed a little a little push 916 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 6: in that direction because all of my friends are very 917 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 6: wishy washy on maybe you should, maybe you shouldn't. 918 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: But what advantage would you have by not saying anything? 919 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 6: Nothing, No advantage. We would be stuck in the unknown. 920 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 3: Does he listen to this podcast? 921 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: No, he's a straight man. You're the only straight man 922 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: that listens to this. Listen. I think it's good to 923 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: take life by the balls and have balls, you know 924 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: what I mean? And I think by you calling in, 925 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: is you trying to just get your balls in the 926 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: right order. And I want to tell you they're in 927 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: the right order. Go for it. I don't think you're 928 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: ever gonna regret speaking your truth to somebody and saying 929 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: and proclaiming your love or adoration and saying, let's go 930 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: for it. There's nothing set in stone. We don't have 931 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: to commit to each other. We're not getting married, but 932 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: we're both gonna try and have a relationship and see 933 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: where we go and if it works out, fucking awesome, 934 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work out, we'll always try to 935 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: remain friends. 936 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great about tomorrow. Like you said, you gotta 937 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: fucking go for it. 938 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: How are you gonna do it? How are you gonna 939 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: tell him? 940 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: Do you want us to do it? 941 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 6: I have started a little text note in my phone 942 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 6: of things I was gonna say, and then I deleted 943 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 6: it and I restarted, and so far it's I think 944 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 6: you know that I like you something along those lines, 945 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 6: because it's very I'm not being hidden about it. I'm 946 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 6: not being coy about it. He knows that I find 947 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 6: him attractive, he knows that I like him. So I 948 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 6: think it's just again me taking the initiative and being like, hey, 949 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 6: what should we do? 950 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 5: Now? 951 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 6: What are we doing? 952 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: H But like, I don't think this is a text, right, 953 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 2: Like this is a like invite him out? Go to dinner. 954 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this is a face to face And 955 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: don't be like this is coming from somebody who's a 956 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: very dominant personality. You don't have to make him agree 957 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: to anything. You just are inviting him to join you 958 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: in this relationship. It's not like this is how I feel, 959 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen. I don't think you're 960 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: going to say it that way, but I don't want 961 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: you to confuse what I'm saying with that you want 962 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: to go in and say this is how I feel. 963 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: I want to start something with you. I would like 964 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: to have us try a relationship and with the understanding 965 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: that if it doesn't work out, we will remain friends. 966 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: We can both be very mature about this. And let's 967 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: not go into this assuming it's all going to be 968 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: sunshine and roses, because that's a big mistake people make too. 969 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: And at the first sign of like a difficult time. 970 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: You know some people, you want to be able to 971 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: know that they can handle that in your relationship and 972 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: handle difficult conversations and blah blah blah. So it's not 973 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: like you're signing up to get married. Yeasant, love is blind, 974 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: Yeah right, we barely know you, but I think he's lucky. 975 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: You'd be lucky to have you. Oh you seem like 976 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: a really good person. 977 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 6: Thank you. 978 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: I agree. 979 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: What is that on? What can you figure? What's that 980 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 3: on the side? There is that? That's a screen or puppets? 981 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 6: It's a ball ross finger puppet. 982 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: That's cue and your finger blast and your finger puppet 983 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: right now, that's a finger blast. You know what that is, John, 984 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: A finger blast? 985 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 3: That's a Oh yeah, I'm doing it right now to myself. 986 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in, Thank you for calling in, 987 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for showing us your puppet, thank you for 988 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: dealing with Thank you for dealing with John Ranks. And 989 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: keep posted let us know what happens. Okay, Yeah, totally, 990 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Love you guys. Yeah, absolutely more. 991 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: Sorry John, but Chelsea, all right, cut off. So I 992 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: just want to finish. 993 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: I think she was gonna say me, how do you 994 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: keep your balls? Or what were you saying? Get your 995 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: I think you're all mixing. 996 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I could do I could do whatever 997 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: I want. It's my podcast. 998 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 3: If you pray to your balls, is that sack relgious? 999 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: I think I think keeping your balls in order means flying, right, 1000 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: flying straight, you know what I mean, I'm doing it 1001 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: like you know, I'm always heading north. 1002 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: I feel like that conversation would be easier if she's 1003 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 4: just like hooked up with him again. 1004 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 3: I don't know, I could never figure out like being 1005 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 3: friends and all a sudden falling like one has to 1006 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: like Kimmel and Molly, like they work together a song 1007 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 3: and all a sudden one day they're in love with 1008 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 3: each other. It's interesting. One has to She's looking at 1009 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: me like I'm a fucking. 1010 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I'm just thinking like it's I mean, 1011 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: there are a million ways to fall in love. Sometimes 1012 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: it's one person. Sometimes with well, Joe Coy and me, 1013 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: I I knew he liked me a lot and had 1014 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 1: a crush on me, so it had to be my idea. 1015 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: But every dynamic is different, and it's kind of the 1016 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: most respectful thing to do to another person is also 1017 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: is be honest, you know, like in a relationship, like 1018 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: these are my feelings, so that they know this is 1019 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: how I feel. And if you don't feel the same way, 1020 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: like okay, we're coming from two different places, and that 1021 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: gives them an opportunity to act in kindness and you know, 1022 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: respect as well. 1023 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's gonna hate herself if she doesn't say anything, 1024 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 4: and then he winds up with somebody else, you know, 1025 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 4: and she like didn't get in there when she had 1026 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 4: a chance. Well, our next color. It's a little bit 1027 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 4: of a turn emotionally. 1028 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: But I think John's ready for anything. 1029 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: I think so. 1030 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: I think what you've demonstrated thus far is that you're 1031 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: ready for. 1032 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 4: Okay, right, I have to go, Beth says. I'm hoping 1033 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 4: to get your advice on something I think you can 1034 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 4: relate to. It will make sense in the end, I promise. 1035 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 4: When I was seven, my mom got cancer. At ten, 1036 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 4: my dad got cancer, and at fourteen, my mom got 1037 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: a different cancer too. I learned that my dad was 1038 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 4: diagnosed with his second cancer. When I was twenty five. 1039 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 4: My mom had to move into assisted living, and the 1040 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 4: next year, my dad's body lost its battle with the disease, 1041 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 4: and my sister and I helped him pass peacefully via hospice. 1042 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 4: Within the last eighteen months, I hit a triple whammy. 1043 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 4: My mom's body lost its battle. I turned thirty and 1044 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 4: ended a seven year relationship with Many people ask how 1045 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm so strong, quote unquote, Well, my coping mechanism is humor. 1046 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 4: I often joke about using the dead parent card to 1047 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 4: get what I want, and I turned things into jokes 1048 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 4: in an attempt to help avoid making my friends uncomfortable 1049 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 4: with my grief. I use self deprecation to give people 1050 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 4: an out if my feelings are too real or heavy. Lately, 1051 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 4: I've realized that now nobody takes my emotion seriously anymore. 1052 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 4: The people who love me assume I can handle everything 1053 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: that's happened because I'm used to the trauma. This is 1054 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 4: where I'm hoping Chelsea can help. As a fellow strong 1055 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 4: woman who's been through a lot of shit, who has 1056 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 4: a sarcastic sense of humor and uses dead pan tones, 1057 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 4: how do you convey your needs when necessary? Is it 1058 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 4: your time on a voice? Do you do this only 1059 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 4: in therapy and not with your friends? I could really 1060 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 4: use some help to figure out how to re establish 1061 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 4: connections with those that I know want to support me 1062 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 4: without taking my own jokes on the chin. 1063 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 3: Hi, what's her name? 1064 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Beth? 1065 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 3: Beth? Hi? Bet? 1066 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: Hi Bet? This is John Hi? 1067 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 3: Bet? You know Saya was the king of that and 1068 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 3: he would make jokes out of you know when you 1069 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 3: know he had a lot of tragedy in his life, 1070 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 3: and yeah, that was his way of getting through grief. 1071 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 3: And it was probably as Beth was dealing with a 1072 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 3: little bit. He was like that. He would use jokes 1073 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 3: when tragedy is strict, and he had a lot in 1074 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,959 Speaker 3: his life. We didn't get along in the beginning at all. 1075 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: We had different styles and we you know, we were 1076 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 3: like this, but we finally when his sister, you know, 1077 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: got slurroderma and she passed away, and Dave's sister had cancer, 1078 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 3: and my sister. 1079 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: The chances that all three of your sisters were so sick. 1080 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 3: My sister made it, thank god, but theirs didn't. And 1081 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: so he would make jokes about it. And it was 1082 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 3: fun at first, but then it would be come on, Bob, 1083 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: you know, but that was his way. It was it 1084 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: was his only way out. But he was always there 1085 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: for someone like he would do the jokes jokes, but 1086 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: probably you are and then he was there. Then he 1087 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 3: became Bob and he was the most reliable guy on 1088 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: the planet. I asked him to host my father's funeral 1089 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 3: and he got up and started with tonight specials or 1090 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 3: cake and cock, and we're out of cake and I 1091 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 3: was like okay, and my Mom's like, oh, but we 1092 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 3: needed but that was a time when everybody we just 1093 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 3: needed to laugh and that was great. And then he 1094 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 3: got very serious and then after that he was right 1095 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 3: by my side through all of it. So maybe you 1096 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 3: do that, Yeah, definitely. 1097 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 5: And I feel like a lot of my friends that 1098 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 5: have tragedy in their lives too, you know, they come 1099 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 5: to me because they know that I've experienced it and 1100 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 5: I've made it through it, and I do have copying 1101 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 5: mechanisms that I've used. It's just this particular loss of 1102 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 5: the loss of my mom, you know, just six months ago, 1103 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 5: has hit me harder than everything else. And I think 1104 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 5: that they're just kind of assuming, you know, I'm going 1105 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 5: to stay on the same track that I have always had, 1106 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 5: and it's kind of like this one's different, though, and 1107 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 5: I really need somebody else to be there for me 1108 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 5: the way that I've been there for a lot. 1109 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: That you just said it perfectly, and listen, I want 1110 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 1: you to think you're in therapy. You said yes, yes, yes, okay, 1111 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: So I want you to think this is a whole 1112 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: new chapter in your life. You've lost your mother and 1113 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: that's been the biggest blow. But you've had a million blows. 1114 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: But that doesn't make that make this blow any less painful. 1115 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: Your reaction and deflection with humor. I have used humor 1116 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: my entire life for difficult situations. When anybody used to 1117 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: say I'm sorry about your brother dying, I would be like, well, 1118 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: you didn't kill him, Like what did you do push 1119 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: him off a cliff? Like it is so uncomfortable? 1120 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 3: But was that hard because you didn't take it? You 1121 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 3: would try and then when you were lone it did 1122 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 3: it hit you? 1123 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: Or well, it hit me many years later. I had 1124 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of delayed grief because I wasn't allowed to grieve 1125 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,959 Speaker 1: in my in my mind at that time, I didn't 1126 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: want to let myself grieve because everyone around me was 1127 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: grieving and I didn't like the looks of that. So 1128 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: it hit me a lot later in life, like what 1129 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: I lost in the impact that that had on me. 1130 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: But I think, listen, you have so much experience in 1131 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: this that you need to take this like new chapter 1132 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: of your life. You're thirty, this is the first time 1133 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: you're going into life without your mother. This can be 1134 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: a new experience for your grief, and you can easily 1135 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: explain in the most art, you know, eloquent way that 1136 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: you just did that you have been using humor to 1137 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: deflect to the friends that you need. And this is 1138 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: a time in my life where I need to be 1139 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: honest with you. I actually need to lean on you, 1140 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: I actually need help from you. Just because I've had 1141 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of tragedy doesn't mean that I've become anewer 1142 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: to it. You know, you can say all of these 1143 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: things to people that you trust and know that love you, 1144 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: and I guarantee you are going to get responses that 1145 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: are going to help you through this time. And you 1146 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: can also look at this new chapter in your life 1147 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: as the period of time where you're not going to 1148 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: deflect your pain anymore. You're not going to use humor 1149 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: every chance you get. And to know, the way that 1150 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: John just retold the story of Bob, it does make 1151 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: people uncomfortable and it makes them unable to understand how 1152 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: to communicate with you or how to help you grieve 1153 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 1: when you're constantly making jokes. So it's not even really 1154 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: benefiting you in any way anymore. So you know how 1155 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: Oprah always says, things work until they don't. Like humor 1156 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 1: has worked for you now and now it doesn't. 1157 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I hadn't even thought about it from their 1158 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 5: perspective that like, if they are really trying to connect, 1159 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 5: because they'll I have wonderful friends and they'll ask me, 1160 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 5: you know, how things are going, or they'll try to 1161 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 5: bring up both of my parents. And I hadn't even 1162 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 5: considered that, you know, that's selfish of me, that you know, 1163 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,959 Speaker 5: they might have been genuine in that. I guess I 1164 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 5: had just always assumed, you know, that they were just 1165 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 5: trying to be nice, or that they just wanted to 1166 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 5: acknowledge the giant elephant in the room, that is, you. 1167 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 3: Know, you're denying their friendship to you. They want to help, 1168 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 3: They want to pour their heart out, and when you 1169 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: put this wallup of jokes and things, then they go, oh, man, 1170 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 3: that felt bad because they didn't get to help you. 1171 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 6: Right. 1172 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate that I hadn't thought of it that way. 1173 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 5: And I would be frustrated if somebody did that to me. 1174 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 5: And I'm you know, am the friend that would sit 1175 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 5: down and you know, grab their shoulders and say, you know, 1176 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 5: I'm here, talk to me. 1177 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes all you just need is you like 1178 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: as soon as you break that damn and just let 1179 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: them know that you're aware of this cover that you've 1180 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: been using. All you need is a good cry, and 1181 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: your friends show it's not even that we need so much, 1182 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 1: it's that you've put up this kind of wall around 1183 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: yourself and you just need to like let that wall 1184 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: crumble down. 1185 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 3: Did you get to spend great time with her at 1186 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 3: the end there, and were you guys close and oh yeah. 1187 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 5: I was her primary caregiver for about six years. 1188 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 1189 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 3: She must have been so proud of you and the 1190 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: way you took care of her. That means so much 1191 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 3: to a parent, you know. And she died knowing that 1192 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 3: that you are the great daughter and you took care 1193 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 3: of her and you put other your needs aside for 1194 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 3: hers at least you have. That's that's really sweet, right. 1195 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very valuable. Six years. I mean, oh my god, 1196 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: I felt that a lot of people, or that every 1197 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: person would do something like that, give of themselves in 1198 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 1: that way. So you can also take comfort in knowing 1199 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: that you know, you were such a support system to 1200 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: your mother. But I think more importantly moving forward, you 1201 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: want to create this kind of new way of life, 1202 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: right like you're thirty. Now you're a grown up. You 1203 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: don't have to deflect anymore. You're allowed to be in pain, 1204 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: and the minute you let a little out, it's like 1205 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: you're blowing up entire gasket. You don't have to look 1206 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: at this as like, oh, you're going to be crying 1207 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: on your friend's shoulder every single day, Like it's not 1208 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: like that. You know how grief is. It comes in 1209 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: spurts and it's not constant. And the minute you get 1210 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: those walls down, you're just gonna feel so much more 1211 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: support coming at you and so much loving energy coming 1212 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,959 Speaker 1: towards you that you've been kind of holding at bay. 1213 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 4: I would encourage you next time that you're feeling down 1214 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 4: or you're feeling really emotional, send a text to a 1215 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 4: friend and say to them, you know what I'm really 1216 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 4: going through it right now? Would you be able to 1217 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 4: come over and talk with me or be with me tonight, tomorrow, whenever. 1218 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 2: Let that be sort of your. 1219 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 4: Entree into opening up to a friend that way. You know, 1220 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 4: you know and they know this isn't like funny, funny 1221 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 4: fun times. This is I'm really dealing with it and 1222 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 4: I really need somebody to like, come be with me 1223 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 4: while I process this grief tonight and your friends are 1224 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 4: going to be thrilled. 1225 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hope. 1226 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 5: So I kind of you know, I had written in 1227 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 5: because I was just of saving it for therapy. And 1228 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 5: you know, I have a great therapist and I have 1229 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 5: a great psychiatrist that helps me with my meds, and 1230 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 5: I trust both of them and I'm really thankful for that. 1231 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 5: But I know that that's not healthy to just you know, 1232 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 5: keep it between myself and the person that I'm paying. 1233 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 3: That's free. We're free. 1234 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And friendship is free. 1235 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: Friendship is free. I bet you've helped so many of 1236 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 3: your friends right in the past, You've been that, You've 1237 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 3: been that person to them, Let them be that to you. 1238 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. We have a dead parents club group text. 1239 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. 1240 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 5: From like different friend groups that have lost parents or 1241 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 5: siblings in some cases. So yeah, I've brought a few 1242 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 5: people together in that way. But it just struggled when 1243 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 5: it comes to myself and not deflecting. 1244 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: What's one of the great things that your mom bestowed 1245 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 3: on you? 1246 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, everything. I know that that's a cliche answer, 1247 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 5: but she was just spicy and sassy and never apologized 1248 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 5: for being herself. She was super materialistic and like, not 1249 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 5: in a annoying way, but in like, yeah, I'm gonna 1250 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 5: buy nice things I like and deserve nice things. I mean, 1251 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 5: like she demanded that she'd be buried with a full 1252 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 5: manicure and jewelry on and I pick up your outfit 1253 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:12,959 Speaker 5: for her to wear. 1254 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 3: And that's that's beautiful, just even to talk about her, 1255 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 3: because did just that movie Coco. Have you ever seen 1256 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,399 Speaker 3: that movie Coco? It's a Disney movie. 1257 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry talking about it. You and me, No, Vanessa 1258 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: and me. 1259 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 3: She it was you know, when the somebody dies, they 1260 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 3: go up to a certain part of have and then 1261 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 3: if you don't keep their name alive, you don't talk 1262 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 3: about them all the good things they did, like you 1263 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 3: just talked about in the Wonder the qualities of your mother. 1264 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 3: Then they die again up there. So it's important to 1265 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 3: talk tell stories about her, laugh about her and make jokes, 1266 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 3: put pictures of her everywhere, and call into podcasts and 1267 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 3: talk about her if you can. 1268 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: Okay up, yeah, wrap that up, honey, Okay, keep us 1269 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: You're You're gonna be fine, okay. And this is I 1270 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: just want you to when you get off this like 1271 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 1: you're thirty. Now you're going into a new part of 1272 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: your life. Those old things are going to become something 1273 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: of the past, and now you're going to enter adulthood 1274 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: and womanhood and you're going to be the woman that 1275 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 1: your mother knew that you were and that you know 1276 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: you are. I appreciate that. 1277 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1278 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, love you, love you, thank you, thank you. 1279 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 3: I am woman. Can you be my friend? Because I 1280 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 3: betually all the friends call you and go, hey, this 1281 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 3: and that you're really good at it. Now I know 1282 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 3: why you have this show. 1283 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: She's good at advice. 1284 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1285 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, because you've lived so much asot it. 1286 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like people and I'm interested in 1287 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 1: everyone's story, so I pick up a lot of information. 1288 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: I think maybe that's why. But sometimes I feel like 1289 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about it, and sometimes I 1290 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: feel like I do. So that's just like everybody in life, right. 1291 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: Sometimes you think you're like crushing it, and sometimes you're 1292 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: like what the fuck am I doing to giving advice out? 1293 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I just don't take myself too seriously, 1294 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: so it doesn't ever really become a problem. 1295 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 3: Or you're a good friend. I bet. Well, you talk 1296 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 3: about your friends luck, you take them on vacations. 1297 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I like friends, John Stamos. Yes, the book 1298 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: is if you would have told me you guys can 1299 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: order it. You can go to your local bookstores, which 1300 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: I would say to support your local bookstores so that 1301 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: we have bookstores in fifty years. And I thank you 1302 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: for being here. 1303 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 3: My pleasure. I'm glad. 1304 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure, John Stamos, always a pleasure. 1305 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 3: So it's not enough. We need to get together more 1306 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 3: often and talk and stuff. 1307 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: Well, we can just meet up at Disney World. I'm 1308 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: there usually two three times a week. I usually go 1309 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: from twelve to four Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. I love 1310 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: to hit the La traffic. 1311 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 3: You're the one who Mickey Mouse out. 1312 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not me. That's not me. But 1313 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: I do have a joke in my stand up about 1314 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: going to Disney World for the first time at seven, 1315 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: and even then I knew it was horseshit. Why because 1316 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,280 Speaker 1: I just thought, what is this? This is a nightmare, 1317 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: this place, A bunch of grown mice running around trying 1318 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: to take photos with me. 1319 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 3: And people say she's bitter. Now you're not. You've changed, 1320 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,479 Speaker 3: You've gotten soft, that's bitter. Yeah, except for that Disney rand. 1321 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan and I think you're smart and 1322 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 3: beautiful and great, and I'm glad to reconnect with you 1323 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 3: because i haven't seen you a few years. And Catherine's fantastic. 1324 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 3: She's like, you need her because I've heard you on 1325 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 3: your own And thanks for having me. I love you. 1326 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, John about Shalloe. Okay, second shows have been 1327 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: added for those of you coming to see my new 1328 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: stand up tour, which you have to come because I'm 1329 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: having the best time. We added a second show in 1330 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati in the daytime at five o'clock PM. I'm doing 1331 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: my first show because I don't have a night where 1332 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: I can go back, so we added a second show 1333 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,959 Speaker 1: at five pm, and the original show is at eight pm. 1334 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 1: Original show is sold out. Second show tickets are available Cincinnati. 1335 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm also coming suit Chicago, the Chicago Theater, Portland, Oregon, 1336 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: San Francisco. They're both almost completely sold out. And you 1337 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: can go to Chelsea Hamler dot com for other tickets 1338 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 1: and other information and if you want to buy some 1339 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: of our merch that's all available on Chelseahandler dot com. 1340 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, guys, I'll see you on the road. 1341 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 4: If you'd like advice from Chelsea, shoot us an email 1342 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 4: at Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com and be 1343 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 4: sure to include your phone number. Dear Chelsea is edited 1344 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 4: and engineered by Brad Dickert executive producer Catherine Law and 1345 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 4: be sure to check out our merch at Chelseahandler dot 1346 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 4: com