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Speaker 1: Whenever you hear that sound, it can only mean two things.

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Speaker 1: One Brian Campbell's probably about to commit a sex crime,

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Speaker 1: and two it's time for Morning Combat. Hello everyone, on

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Speaker 1: this twenty seventh day of March twenty twenty six, it

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Speaker 1: is time for MK. I am merely one half of

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Speaker 1: your hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I join

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Speaker 1: you from the capitalist you know, right here in Washington,

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Speaker 1: sort of. It's better call y'all, Jed Michue Hi, Jed,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 4: Where'd you go to high school?

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Speaker 1: Marrietta High School, suburb suburbs. I can't really claim Atlanta Atlanta,

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Speaker 4: No, Marietta is fine if you were like out in

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Speaker 4: fucking Conyers, the know.

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Speaker 1: But Conyers, Conyers, Georgia. That is not a place I

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Speaker 1: say this, though, Jed. I will say this. My senior

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Speaker 1: the time. Wow. I didn't realize this until I was

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Speaker 1: watching the tournament. Kennesas State made the fucking tournament.

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Speaker 4: Dude, they got like they're like a good d I

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Speaker 4: now too, they're they're an enormous university. Now they're like

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Speaker 4: forty thousand people. So you haven't thought of Conyers?

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Speaker 1: How about Georgia coming Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Just putting that out there for the next video.

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Speaker 3: Dicks, dicks everywhere, Dicks.

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Speaker 1: more for us. It's my friend and yours. It's Long Island.

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Speaker 5: What's up? Boys? I you know, I trimmed the beer.

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Speaker 5: Jed went clean shaven today. I mean, look at us,

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Speaker 1: I do have to remind everyone. I'm gonna do this

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Speaker 1: doing the Fundora Thermin fight. I think is that in Vegas? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And smaller venues are better. The whatever the hard rock

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Speaker 1: off topic number one, Let's go with what I consider

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty good weekend. By the way, in

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Speaker 4: And that is one of the better fights the UFC

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Speaker 4: Like, this fight makes sense? Luke, you know, like is

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Speaker 4: You can go DJ, you can do other things, you

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Speaker 4: I have. How often do fighters leave when they should leave? Never?

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm at. They just kind of

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Speaker 6: Like look at who Anderson's Olfa beat, Like I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like i'd so even in the way, like there's

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Speaker 7: Well, to be just completely honest. I feel I've had

429
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Speaker 7: a complete resurgence, like life change through sixty as far

430
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Speaker 7: as my faith, and I felt like I had an

431
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Speaker 7: outer body experience with something that happened in my life

432
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Speaker 7: where I was able to see who I was and

433
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Speaker 7: I was pretty disappointed, like I always felt guilty about

434
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Speaker 7: certain things. And a girl I've been with, her name's Ashlyn.

435
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 7: She's been a girlfriend of mine for six plus years now,

436
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 7: and you know, just a envisioning marriage and a family

437
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 7: and God at the center of everything is going to

438
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Speaker 7: be something that I feel like is my true legacy.

439
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 7: Didn't like who I was when I was able to

440
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Speaker 7: see who I was, and thanks to the you know,

441
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 7: God putting my girlfriend in my life the way that

442
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,239
Speaker 7: he did, because she's been the only person in an

443
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Speaker 7: intimate level that has ever come into my life and

444
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 7: loved me through anything and everything. I'm in a rebuilding

445
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 7: phase of my life. I'm a baby Christian, but I

446
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 7: feel like I'm born again believer, and I feel like

447
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 7: it's very important for me to talk about it so

448
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 7: I know it's not everybody's.

449
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: Cup of tea.

450
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 7: For the ones that don't believe, give yourself a chance

451
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,719
Speaker 7: because it's true freedom.

452
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Speaker 1: I'll say this. I'll say this. I mean, he's certainly

453
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Speaker 1: on the life style side, seems to be making maybe

454
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Speaker 1: healthier decisions, and he seems pretty tranquil relatively speaking, and

455
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Speaker 1: he's not saying insanely racist shit about Mexicans, So like,

456
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: already we're at a pretty big upgrade. I also, Jed

457
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on my life chat yesterday, which is,

458
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: I have definitely seen cases where guys, you know, had

459
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Speaker 1: this kind of like renewed emphasis on religion in their lives,

460
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: and then simultaneously they would lose their edge. And I

461
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: don't mean that like going to religion made them presy,

462
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Speaker 1: because I has seen some very religious people who could

463
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: fight their fucking ass off. It's not that, but it's

464
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: that they're undergoing something personally, and it expresses itself in

465
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways. One is the sort of

466
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: turn religiously, and then the other one is that they

467
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: can't something has happened to them internally that they can't

468
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: muster the same kind of fire. I'm not saying I

469
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: am saying that for Joe Pifer, but maybe something to

470
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Speaker 1: keep an eye on, depending on how this goes on Saturday, it.

471
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Speaker 4: Didn't Roy McDonald like straight up say I found Jesus

472
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 4: and couldn't hurt people anymore. Yes, Like that doesn't appear

473
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: to be how Pifer has interpreted his relationship with Jesus.

474
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: And look, if this makes him a better person, good

475
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 4: for him. You know, I don't why would I ever

476
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: have issues with that happening. If this makes him just

477
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 4: more focused on his career, maybe this works for him,

478
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: Like I guess we will find out. I hope the

479
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: best for him in this regard, because the less people

480
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 4: say insanely racist things about random countries, the better of

481
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: the world probably is. So Also, I just don't you know,

482
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 4: you want to take people at face value, and you

483
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 4: want to take people at the word, and so Joe

484
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: Pipher isn't really giving us a reason not to and

485
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: so I'm happy to take him at his word. But

486
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 4: you know, John Jones is a deep and abiding relationship

487
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 4: with his faith, and I wouldn't say that that has

488
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: worked out as great as you might hope it would.

489
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 4: So Like, I don't know, but I think if you

490
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: take the broader picture of like, he does seem more grounded.

491
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 4: Right Like in his interviews he has just been like

492
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: a much chiller dude as far as like not just

493
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 4: trying to be about all that, not like foolishness. And

494
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how that manifests in the cage. Let's

495
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: find out, but I hope that this is what's best

496
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Speaker 4: for him.

497
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Speaker 1: You know, let's talk about x's and o's here. Let

498
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: me tell you where I'm out on Piper, because I

499
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: really think that he's more of the X factor here

500
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: than is he is he It has a lot much

501
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: more known quantities. Those are degraded. There is a question

502
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: of how much fight to fight they're going to keep

503
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: being degraded. I guess we shall see. But the Pifer question,

504
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: to me is a little bit more interesting, and I'll

505
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: tell you why. It's that, you know, I he is

506
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: good enough and athletic enough to beat a certain level

507
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: of MMA fighter ten times out of ten, and to

508
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: do it very quickly. But I'm just not super convinced

509
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: by his upside yet. Now that's not me declaring that

510
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: there isn't one that he can now reach beyond what

511
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: he has shown us, just that he hasn't done it yet.

512
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: And you know, for example, in the Gastolum fight where

513
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: he starts out like looking amazing and gasol I mean,

514
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: I understand that Gaslam has legendary durability that is a

515
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: huge component of this, but he also was able to

516
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: just kind of slowly and methodically work his way back

517
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: into the fight. I don't think is he is going

518
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: to have the physical durability of Gastolum. So some of

519
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: this may not even be relevant in that kind of

520
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: a way, but the reality it shows is that, I mean,

521
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: he did well again Hermanson, or at least better against

522
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: Hermanson early, and then that fight got you know, away

523
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: from him as well, like these guys who have technical

524
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: maturity are are able to either beat him or to

525
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: bare minimum when as down the stretch as the fight

526
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: goes longer. So obviously the question here is one is

527
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: the durability, that's a big part of it. But two,

528
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: if that isn't the defining factor, that's where this fight,

529
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: to me becomes significantly more interesting. I don't know if

530
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: I have not seen anything from Pifer other than crowding,

531
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: big power, athletic, you know, explosivity into big exchanges. You know,

532
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: he's got some set up, to be clear, But if

533
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: that becomes diminished in the first two rounds. What I

534
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: want to see here is Jed some kind of other

535
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: gear he can go to in the third round to

536
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Speaker 1: really enable him to not be able to fade against

537
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: someone who does have an all likelihood much greater technical

538
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: mastery than him.

539
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like this six and one half dozen

540
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: of the other But to me, the X factor is

541
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: is he's durability, because I have no reason to believe

542
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 4: Pifer has done any of those things right, Like, this

543
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: is a very straightforward matchup in my opinion, could be wrong,

544
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: been wrong a lot. Pifer doesn't have an off speed pitch,

545
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: he doesn't have a plan B. He doesn't have a

546
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: deep bag of tricks, which is why, like, as a

547
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: fight goes on, if you can survive the initial onslaught

548
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: and you have like tools and tricks and a depth

549
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 4: to your game, you can start to make hay against him.

550
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: What Jack Romanson basically did with his jab is he

551
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: has a huge bag of tricks. So obviously, if we

552
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: get into the third, fourth and fifth round, I strongly

553
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: anticipate Izzy to win those. It is purely a question

554
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 4: of his durability unless has Pifer started to add something

555
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: anything like any sort of a change up because right

556
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 4: now he's got a big right hand and he can

557
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: kind of tackle you sometimes, Like if he can add

558
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: any sort of other work on the feet, like that

559
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 4: would help him. But it he just hasn't shown us

560
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: that in like it's not like a short career. He's

561
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 4: fought a bunch of times. So that's why I am

562
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 4: interested in this fight because if he does, like if

563
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: he comes out and wins this fight, not by just

564
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: bombing on his early all right now he's a real player.

565
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 4: He's given me something to say. Okay, he is marrying

566
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: his athletic gifts with like a technical skill and acumen,

567
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: and now that can be a real problem for a

568
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: lot of dudes. If not, I think is he's gonna

569
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: get his first win since Poeton.

570
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: Another. Again, all of these measurements are crude, but just

571
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: to sort of an exercise you can go over. It's

572
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: like which of the guys that is he has lost to.

573
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: Would you favor Piper to be Poetson no, Strickland no,

574
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: see no, and then Imovov No. I would not favor

575
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Joe Pifer to beat any of those guys. And so

576
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't make is he's durability not a question? It

577
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: is a question, but it sort of kind of shows you, like, like, honestly,

578
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: if is he loses this one, even by split decision

579
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: or something, this is clearly the worst guy he'll have

580
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: loss to in mma, like by far, like this will

581
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: be the this will be by far his worst loss.

582
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: And so he's never lost to someone I think ranked

583
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: like fourteenth or whatever. Whatever Pifer' is at at the

584
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: present moment. Just a crazy kind of situation that he

585
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: finds himself in. But as we indicated for Pifer, a

586
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: big opportunity here, if ever there was one.

587
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying to look back at is He's kickboxing career

588
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: and be like, would this just be the straight up

589
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: worst duties I've lost too? I can't quite say that confidently,

590
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: but in.

591
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: No question about it. Last thing, the our friends at

592
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: DraftKings have the odds. I think this is probably right.

593
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: They have is he as a minus one forty eight

594
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Joe Pifer as a plus one twenty four. You want

595
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: to hazard a guess on how you think this one goes.

596
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: I think is he is going to win probably a

597
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: decision because he is just he doesn't put the pedal

598
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: down once he gets comfortable in you know, if you're

599
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: in second gear and he can get to third gear,

600
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: he's very happy to just stay there and ride it out.

601
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: Piper is the most dangerous in the first seven minutes.

602
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: After that, I strongly anticipate if he hasn't gotten it done,

603
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: and he can, because the thing about Adasanya is his style.

604
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: Some of it is built on fast twitch, quick reflexes,

605
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: and as those diminish, you get more hittable and then

606
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: boom goes to dynamite. But I don't think it'll happen.

607
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: I think he's got enough tricks, good good enough at

608
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: maintaining a range, which Piper has not really showed a

609
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: great ability to navigate, and so as he just sort

610
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: of cruises to perhaps slightly lack luster, but a good

611
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: win for him to finally get back on track.

612
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to topic number two and we'll

613
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: talk about the rest of this UFC Seattle card. Let's

614
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: go to the main event now, Jed, we have a

615
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: contest here. I'm very much looking forward to it between

616
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Alexa Grosso and Macy Barber. This is a women's flyway about,

617
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: of course. This is the rest of the card. Very quickly,

618
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Michael Kisa, we'll talk about him taking on Nico Price.

619
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: Juliana Rossa is on this card. My favorite one, the

620
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Abdulla Malik Bell Garwi. I'm not sure I pronounced his

621
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: last name properly. Love that one. And of course you

622
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be two guys shot out of a

623
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: cannon and McKinney and Nelson. We'll come back to those

624
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: in just a minute. But this co main event Alexa

625
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Grosso Macy Barber. It is a rematch between them. But

626
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: my question actually starts with Macy Barber, which is that

627
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: you know she had a big plan to be the

628
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: youngest champion beating John Jones. She couldn't do it. She's

629
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: not twenty seven, still quite young. And I think this

630
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: might be jed the final, like real contendership moment, Like

631
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: this might be one of those things where we finally

632
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: get because she's been building and building and building more recently,

633
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: obviously having a bit of a tough stretch some years ago,

634
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: but it's been the sort of a and then I

635
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: know there was some health complications too, but it's kind

636
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: of been the steady accumulation of better and better wins.

637
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I feel like a if she can get revenge, that

638
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: kind of sends an important message, but two to me,

639
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 1: a good win here would basically declare her as your

640
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: number one contender potentially in the division. I know this

641
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: might be some debate about that, but it just feels

642
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: like this is too small of a card, maybe to

643
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: be a breakout moment as a star, but definitely the

644
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: thing that finally turns her into the top contender in

645
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: this division.

646
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is what this fight is set

647
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: up to be, is you know, shades of frankly the

648
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: main event as well here where it's like, all right,

649
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: you got a former champion, a bit of a losing streak,

650
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: they've come against good names, but how much does she

651
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: have left? Here's the young person we got behind, had

652
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: some setbacks, put together a win streak, still very young.

653
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: Can we go here? I think that that is good

654
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: matchmaking again, like right, I don't think this necessarily precludes

655
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: Macy Barbera if she loses to Lexa Grosso, from contending.

656
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: She's still so young and this why class is relatively

657
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: poor that like she Coults still get back there. But

658
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 4: this is the Hey, we've teed you up to get

659
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: revenge on one of your only career losses. To avenge

660
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: the last loss you had, right, Like this big winning

661
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: streak started the fight after she lost to Grosso in

662
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: weird circumstances, right, and hey, I mean probably is the

663
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: number one contender the Natalia Silva thing. We assume she's

664
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: getting the next cracket val and then Aaron Blanchfield sort

665
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: of exists around these They were obviously supposed to fight

666
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: each other and didn't, so I don't know how that

667
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: will all shake out. But like a fight winning streak

668
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: victory over her former champion, Like, what else do you

669
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: have to do to get a title shot? So this

670
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: is set up for Macy Barber to finally, several years

671
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: off her own schedule, get to an actual title fight.

672
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Our own Brian Campbell or formerly are Brian Campbell? Anyway, Yeah,

673
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: spoke to Macy and it was a bit of a

674
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: weird con conversation. Let's watch this.

675
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: You get a victory over the former champion. Here, is

676
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: there anything else stopping you on an eight fight wind

677
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: streak if that happens from getting your crack at the title.

678
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: I think the only thing that's stopping me is if

679
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 5: Bana decides that he just doesn't want to see me

680
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: have a belt.

681
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: That's the only thing is if they're like, nah, we

682
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: just don't want to have it. There's no one else

683
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: or nothing else in.

684
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: My way, I think he was distracted by closing the

685
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: ads on the corn side he was watching at the time.

686
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm not feel.

687
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: But it's around his ankles.

688
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: What do you make of the notion there that, oh, well,

689
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: data might be the thing standing in her way. I

690
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: mean she was. She was sort of like half kidding,

691
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: I think. But again, your reaction to this clip, I

692
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: think it was.

693
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: Mostly tongue in cheek with like maybe you know, I've

694
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 4: had some issues with the promotion. I've you know, she

695
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: pulled out of a fight like immediately before walkouts, you know,

696
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: like that is that's not a thing that endears you

697
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: to the brass. But like, realistically, if you ask Dana

698
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: White off the record or on I don't think he

699
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: genuinely like cares if Macy Barber, probably broadly speaking, the

700
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: UFC wouldn't mind having a young, outspoken champion like because

701
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: think about it. Valentinoshipchenko, in my opinion, of the greatest people

702
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: fighter of all time, great champion to have like holistically right,

703
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: like wow, one of the greatest fighters ever holds the

704
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: belt that's awesome, not like great on the mic, doesn't

705
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: have the most fun fights you've ever seen, So that's

706
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: pretty tough promotionally. They finally unseat her, and it's Alexa Grosso,

707
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 4: who not you know, at least has Mexico behind her,

708
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: but isn't like the most outspoken, doesn't have the best fights.

709
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: Macy Barber would present probably sort of the like err

710
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: ideal of a promotion fighter to get behind. So I

711
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: don't think that that would be a problem for her.

712
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: I think the problem might just be she's sort of

713
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 4: behind other people online right now. Also, the problem would

714
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: be I don't think she beats Valentine Schifchenko. That would

715
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 4: be the biggest problem for her holding a belt, not

716
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: Dana White.

717
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's a separate kind of question.

718
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: And getting a crack at the belt, I think is

719
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: sort of more what she's getting after here. But I

720
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: understand the point. Also, well, you know, we'll come back

721
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: to this here in just a minute, so if you

722
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: watch their first fight, well you know what, actually, before

723
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: we even do that, let's talk about Alexa Grosso here, Dude,

724
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: I have lost all kinds of confidence in her. I mean,

725
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: you know the I don't think the win against Chefchenko

726
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: the first time was fluky. Fluky implies like extremely low percentage.

727
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that. I thought it was low

728
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: percentage that that kind of opportunity would present itself, but

729
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: she took advantage of it when it did. That's Legit

730
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: couldn't really repeat it in the in the second fights,

731
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: although you know, the scoring on that one we know

732
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: is weird. But then, dude, her wrestling kind of degraded.

733
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: It's never been great, but it didn't get better between

734
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: the first and second Shi of Chenko fights, and it

735
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: appeared to get even worse in the third one, to

736
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: say nothing of her more recent fight against the Talia Silva,

737
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: where she just got outstruck basically the entire time too.

738
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't what has gone wrong with Alexa Grosso. Did

739
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: her game stop developing? Did the rest of the pack

740
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: catch up? Where are we with her?

741
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 4: I think her game just is what it always was.

742
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 4: She stagnated and her I do not like you, I

743
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: do not want to take anything away from the title win.

744
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: I think her winning the title is like one of

745
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 4: the greatest accomplishments in recent memory, because like it happened

746
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: for a very specific She is not as good a

747
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: fighter as Valentino Schifchenko, Like she just simply isn't. We've

748
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: seen them fight a bunch. We know this fairly definitively.

749
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: At this point, she was losing the first fight until

750
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 4: val spun and she attacked. She attacked something they specifically

751
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: drilled because like, this is a thing that will happen

752
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: and we can try to take advantage of it. And

753
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: that's why, like being a long reigning champion is so hard,

754
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: because fighters get to prepare very like specific minutia for

755
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: you to attack you in unique ways. And that just

756
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: like happened. But if you look at like look at

757
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 4: the full argraph her career, at what point were you like, man,

758
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: this woman really has the goods. She's going to be

759
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: one of the best fighters in this division forever. No,

760
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: she's always been like a very solid fighter, but she

761
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: doesn't have this enormous, uh dynamic offense right Like she's

762
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: not going to finish you out of nowhere, which always

763
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: makes things a little harder. And she's never been a

764
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: great wrestler. She's had some moments, but you know, like

765
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: that that's come to bite her in the ass a

766
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: couple of times, So I don't think anyone caught up necessarily.

767
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: I just think this is who she always was, and

768
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: she was on a pretty hot run to get to

769
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: the belt. And credit to her.

770
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me she had early footwork in

771
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: co be Nation boxing. Also, if you look at the

772
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: first fight between these two, Barber was like way way

773
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: outside and so her feints wasn't really working because there's

774
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: really no threat based on the distance. And then when

775
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: she did try to close the distance, you could just

776
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: time her because there was no real setup from it

777
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: that was, you know, genuinely threatening behind it. You have

778
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: to kind of play with that obviously, and so she

779
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: would get tagged coming in. She did land some big overhands,

780
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 1: did a lot of clenching along the fence, but also

781
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: got reversed on the ground a couple of times, and

782
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: at least one time certainly, and then you know, nearly

783
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: got submitted for it. So like Grosso was way ahead

784
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: of it. I just feel like Barber has made up

785
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: a lot of ground since then. In fact, the odds

786
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: makers they don't quite agree, Yes they do. Sorry, they

787
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: have Grosso at plus one fifty four of the DraftKings

788
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: odds makers and then Maycy Barber they have at minus

789
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: one eighty five. I think slight lean Barber is the

790
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: right call here to me Jed who's gotten better since

791
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: their last fight. It's not just that Barber has made

792
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: up a lot of ground, although that's part of it.

793
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: I think she's made up enough ground and Grosso has

794
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: i think either stagnated or even declined such that they're

795
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: now in different places. We shall see tomorrow.

796
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with the odds, I think because there's

797
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 4: Barbara obviously has improved more, right, like just very clear.

798
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 4: There's also like just the point of what was five

799
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: years ago. Barbara was twenty two, so yes, you're going

800
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: to get better when you're that age. That was also

801
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: Barber's coming off her first loss and a knee injury,

802
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: so probably not her best performance in general, So you know,

803
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: you can extrapolate a little out of there. I will

804
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: say the thing that I'm the most concerned about with

805
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 4: Grosso less than like I think she is stagnated in general,

806
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 4: is she really kind of just gave up against Chefchenko

807
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 4: and there was like a hair of that against Natalia

808
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 4: Silva as well. And look that's the number one and

809
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 4: two fighters in this weight class, But like, you don't

810
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 4: where's she mentally? You know, she climbed to the top

811
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: of the mountain, and sometimes when you get there, that's it.

812
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: You're there, and you don't You're not the type of

813
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 4: person who wants to defend or you know mentally can

814
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: stay locked in and defend forever and ever. Look at

815
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: Rosna Munus, you know, like on her best nights, an

816
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: elite fighter also often doesn't have her best nights or whatever.

817
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: So like, where is Grosso mentally? How how focused is

818
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: she on this fight? Because if she's not, like at

819
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: her apex, I think Macy Barbara is going to win

820
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: this cleanly. If she is, you know, the Grosso we

821
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 4: saw in Chevchenko's one and two, this fight gets very

822
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 4: very competitive. I just I don't know that we have

823
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: any reason to believe that's the Grosso we're going to

824
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 4: get on Saturday.

825
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Well, here's the Macy we got in an important part

826
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: of MK history.

827
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: Let's roll that footage, Luke, we have a couple more

828
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: minutes before our guest joins.

829
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: I mean if I if I urinated right now.

830
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: It would you be very mad at me urinate On

831
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: your pants.

832
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: No it just like you know, run to the no

833
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: ship at Can.

834
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: I tell you that I didn't use this restaurant us

835
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: the one in the back.

836
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: Which fifty percent of the time, no one's taking it down.

837
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so two things will happened to me in the

838
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: far I didn't see who it was. He was making

839
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: noises with his anus. Sounded like the t rex roaring

840
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: in Jurassic Park. Deer goes like this. There was a

841
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: gentleman who stood next to me who unzipped his pants

842
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: and did this number were number six and nine?

843
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: Put together a number you got for me?

844
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: He unzips his pants and goes ah and then audibly fart.

845
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: We got the velociraptor in the corner, and then we've

846
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: got an old man at the gym, audibly farting next

847
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: to me at the urinal.

848
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: You should have just tripled deck to Joseph a beak

849
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: style and just been like you want a war, I'll

850
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: give you a war.

851
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: King Finn where he just took a dumb in the urine.

852
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: Okay, that's disgusting. Hey.

853
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: On that note, why don't we welcome our fantastic guests

854
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: this week on the program, Macy welcome to Morning Combat.

855
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: Great to see you. We are itching to see you

856
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: back in action. How's everything going?

857
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: I know I can't wait.

858
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you guys introed me on like

859
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 5: the most random conversation that I got to walk in.

860
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: I was like, what are ex assive about?

861
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 5: What kind of question is that?

862
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

863
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: It was one of the finer moments in this show's history.

864
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: That's how every guest on the show should be introed

865
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: by a by a preamble of bodily functions that we

866
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: can inventory.

867
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: What if I take a ship in a urinal and

868
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: now Macy Barber Jesus D, how is there show still

869
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: a thing?

870
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm dubbed and I really want to vae it's the

871
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: fact that I've not been fired is genuinely one of

872
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know what the it would be.

873
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, like Mick Parking, No,

874
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: not even no, let's we gotta go work like a

875
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: Inco Price. Yeah, like Neco Price just going on a

876
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: twenty win heater to become the champion and defend it

877
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: multiple times. Like that's the That's that's how rare, Like,

878
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: that's how statistically unbelievable. It is that I've not been

879
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: let go really truly.

880
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 4: Shout out to Macy for taking that in stride.

881
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fucking hilarious. God, that was great. All right,

882
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the other fights on this card. Hey, listen.

883
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: He's a minus eight hundred Michael kisa is to Nico

884
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: Price's plus five to fifty. Of course, is filling in

885
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: on short notice. He's not even the original opponent. He

886
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: also got knocked out fifty days ago. I don't know

887
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: what you want to say about this fight, Kiss from Seattle.

888
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: It's a great time to call it off. He's got

889
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: a budding career and he's very good at it as

890
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: a commentator. Do you have any memories about his career?

891
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: What can you say about this fight?

892
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: I love this fight. I think sometimes he used he

893
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: gets it right, and Nico Price should be the default

894
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: retirement opponent. It worked so well with Robbie Lawler. Michael

895
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: Casey does not have the same level of storied career

896
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: as Robby Lawler obviously, but like, let's that can be.

897
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: Nico Price's only job is like you get to fight

898
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: guys leaving because you're going to send them out on

899
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 4: a high note. Anthony Smith should have fought Eco Price.

900
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: I don't care about the way classes that's what should

901
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: have happened, because it's just it's perfect. And I think, like,

902
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: what was the original matchup? Do you have that in

903
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: front of you? I don't. I can't ever remember what

904
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: it was supposed to do.

905
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you the original matchup, Yes, I have

906
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: it here in my notes. It was Carlston Harris. I

907
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: think he's Guyanese maybe.

908
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, like that's you. That would be like a

909
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: fine fight in general, but it's not like a walk

910
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: over win for Kisa and like Casa get one. You know,

911
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: like he's had a very good career. You know he

912
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 4: is He's not going to be a Hall of Famer,

913
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: but he he's He's Emon Schumpert, right, Like he had

914
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: a solid career, did some good things. Can be proud

915
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: of his athletic achievements, and transitioned that into a job

916
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 4: on the desk, and he's good at that job, right,

917
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: So like credit to him. Let's send him out on

918
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 4: a victory. Nico Price's perfect matchmaking to do that, and

919
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 4: we're sending him at home. This is a plus work.

920
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: From the UFC in terms of MMA prospects, and they're

921
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: fighting one another, Who are you higher on Mensor abdulah

922
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Malik or U three belgar WII For me, I gotta

923
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: tell you cards on the table. Abdulah Malik one of

924
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: the more interesting American prospects that we have.

925
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 4: I think, I think, I mean, I am a huge

926
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: Mensor Abdulmhleak. Guy granted him very highly coming off Contender series.

927
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 4: He's gotten a little older, right like, I think he's

928
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: twenty eight now, so time's not over, but we're getting

929
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 4: up against it where you're gonna need to start making

930
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 4: the big jumps. I love this match because I didn't

931
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: think I didn't think as much of Bulgarie, but he's

932
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 4: more accomplished, right He has a win over po Aton

933
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: in kickboxing Glory. Guys transitioning over have largely done quite

934
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 4: well in the UFC. I feel like the answer to

935
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: that question, Lucas, whoever wins, this is the guy I'm

936
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: gonna be higher on. Like right now, I would take

937
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 4: Mensor abdulm Malik, but if he loses, I don't really

938
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: know what his ceiling is anymore. Like the time starting

939
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: to catch up to him, he would need to have

940
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: a quick turnaround to get back on top. So whoever

941
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: wins this, that's the guy to get behind in this

942
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: weight class for like the foreseeable future.

943
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even sure what you're supposed to

944
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: say about Terrence mckinniy and Kyle Nelson. These two are

945
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: shot well. One of them is definitely shot out of

946
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: a can. The other one can. I think slow the

947
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: fight down if he has to do that, being Kyle Nelson,

948
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: but it probably won't go past the first round because

949
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: Terrence McKinney just doesn't go past the first round any

950
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: other context. That is noteworthy here.

951
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 4: Twenty four of his twenty five career fights have not

952
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 4: hit the over one point five. So Terrence McKinnie is.

953
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: I think he's great because he knows what he is

954
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: and he will probably be employed for as long as

955
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: he wants because the way he fights, he's never gonna

956
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: win a championship. And that's okay. It's always a fun

957
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: time when he's on a fight card. Let's watch this

958
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: four minutes of chaos, all right.

959
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of other fights on this card that

960
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: I actually really like or not telling Nikomain, but the

961
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: uh Juliana Rossa versus Larry and Douglass. If you like

962
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: that fight, great, I don't really care about it one

963
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: way or the other. However, Ignacio bam Mundes taking on

964
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: to Fikumasaia MUSAIV had a different fight schedule. That one

965
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: fell out, so they pumped in Bob Mundes, who I

966
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: am still pretty high on twenty eight years old. However,

967
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: coming off that loss to Rafaelfhazive and it was kind

968
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: of one sided on top of it. Of course, he

969
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: did have the nice win street before that against Giago's

970
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: Torres and then Jalen Turner, but that was a Jalen

971
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: Turner who's kind of at the end of his run

972
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: there Tofiku Musayev to me is not like obviously an

973
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: unbeatable fighter. He's got six losses and he is coming

974
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: off the loss to oral By, but so fucking what

975
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: like oral By is real good. And then he has

976
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: a loss to Alexander Shavleebak in Belatore in twenty twenty three.

977
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: But these are all really good dudes, and frankly both

978
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: of them in my view, better than Bob Mundees. Do

979
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: you do you share this analysis, I.

980
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: Might pick like nitpick about like better or whatever because

981
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: I'm very high or I was very high on bomb

982
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 4: Monday's I've had to reset myself because the physiv loss

983
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: was daunting. But I think this fight is awesome. This

984
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: is terrific matchmaking. It's probably should be on the main card.

985
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 4: It's like arguably the best pure fight of any on

986
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: this card, and I am interested to see how bab

987
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: Monde's rebounds, right, because he is still young enough to

988
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: make like a real run in this weight class. He's

989
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: super dynamic and super fun, and you don't want him

990
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: to end up being like Joel Alvarez who just kind

991
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: of never got there right, like was awesome but didn't

992
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: get there. We want, we want Nacho to be good.

993
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 4: I think this is a good matchup for him to say, hey,

994
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: Fazi is one of the ten best dudes in the world.

995
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 4: That's okay that I lost to him. I'm going to

996
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: get better and I'll catch up that and if not

997
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: like for for defeat, hey man, like you're win this

998
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 4: and we can get you into a real is bamb

999
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 4: Monday isn't rank right now?

1000
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Is he? No?

1001
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 5: Not?

1002
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: No? Not topic?

1003
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he I think he was for the

1004
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: physique topology.

1005
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: Lost typology has him at eighteen, so he's hovering in

1006
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: that in that's sixteen to twenty range exactly.

1007
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 4: He's hovering right there. So if defeat gets this one,

1008
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: his next opponent is probably somebody with the number next

1009
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 4: to their name and can try and climb the rankings. Here,

1010
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: it's a great fight. Love it.

1011
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: Chase Hooper and Lance Gipson Junior are two guys who

1012
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: are looking for redemption. Do you have a feeling about

1013
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: who this might favor? And in particular, like like, is

1014
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: there an upside question here you're ready to answer?

1015
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: I mean this, do you feel like this favors Chase Hooper?

1016
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: Both because the odds makers say it does and the

1017
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: UFC in general is going to give Chase Hooper a

1018
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: soft touch. I gotta be honest. I was really liking

1019
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 4: the run Chase Hooper was on until Alexander Hernandez, and

1020
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 4: even in that fight, I was like, Oh, he's he's

1021
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: showing some stuff and then he got caught. He got

1022
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: a little lazy at the end of the round and

1023
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: he got knocked out. He is just like the most durable,

1024
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 4: which might be prohibitive right, that just might preclude him

1025
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: from being a real contender, but he's still young and

1026
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 4: keeps getting better every time out. I mainly just want

1027
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 4: to see Chase Hooper showing continuing to show development because

1028
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: I I don't know, we've been following him since he

1029
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 4: was a child. It's I feel like he's part of

1030
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 4: the family. We want to see him grow and succeed. So, sorry,

1031
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 4: Lance Gibson, I hope Chase Hooper shows that he is

1032
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: continuing to improve as a fist fighter.

1033
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Navajos Sterling is on this card. He is taking on

1034
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: Bruno Lopez. He is on a hell of a wind streak.

1035
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Navajos Sterling, he hasn't lost since he fought back in

1036
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: kickboxing in twenty nineteen. He has done quite well. However,

1037
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: he had a finish on the Contender series and he's

1038
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: had three UFC fights since then, including against Rudolpho Belato

1039
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: and he won it, but he has looked much more

1040
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: pedestrian since then. Bruno Lopez enters this contest at thirty

1041
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: two years of age with a record excuse me, fourteen

1042
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: and two, and he's coming off of Dustin Jacobi loss,

1043
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: but does have some wins of some note before this,

1044
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't know do you have a clear sense about

1045
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: this view? Are this this fight? Excuse me?

1046
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: I mean I think Navo Starling's gonna win a very

1047
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: Navajo Starling fight. Yeah, which is like you would like

1048
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: him to be better than he is because he is young,

1049
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: he has gifts, he is from a good camp, you know,

1050
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: like he should be Carlos Oldberg, but he's kind of

1051
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: like the bad version of Carlos Olberg. And maybe he

1052
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: gets better, but you'd you'd like, like Twoko Tokos is

1053
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: a dude. You should get out of there, you know,

1054
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: like not just sort of edge out decision wins. That

1055
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 4: is a tough road to hoe. Honestly, my biggest thought

1056
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: have you seen the show Mobland?

1057
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't watch TV.

1058
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: Oh well, if any of you have, I thought this

1059
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: just now. He looks like the dipshit kid on Mobland?

1060
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 4: And now I can't get that out of my head.

1061
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Do you watch Do you watch mom Land?

1062
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 5: I've never even heard of it?

1063
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's uh, it's so I'm paramount. Plus it's

1064
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: Tom Hardy and uh Patty Constantine and uh, who's the

1065
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: James Bond from my age group? Why can't I think

1066
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: of Pierce Brosnan, Helen Mirren. It's a freaking great cast.

1067
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: Okay, it's actually I was gonna say the cast sounds.

1068
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 4: It is not a good show, but it is a

1069
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: fun show.

1070
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: Is it better than Love Is Blind Germany, which my

1071
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: wife watches, you know?

1072
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: I mean I've never seen the Love is Blind Germany,

1073
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: so I can't I can't really speak to that.

1074
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 5: But she only watches the German one, or she's out

1075
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 5: of the English, so she's now resorted to the German.

1076
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: You got it. She finished the other ones and is

1077
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: just trying to find any kind of love.

1078
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 5: My girlfriend did that once with like the UK ones

1079
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 5: and we got like a couple episodes in. I was like,

1080
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: this is too much where the English are enough.

1081
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: If you like Guy Richie, like mob Lands, like a

1082
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: Guy Richie show, I think he epeedd or whatever, and

1083
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: it's it's bad trash, but it's kind of fun. And

1084
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: he looks Novo Sterling looks like the dipshits on in

1085
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 4: that show.

1086
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: Bro. My wife watches the show in Colombia, it's like

1087
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: their number one show in the country. They are called

1088
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: La Casa de los Fomoso's The House of the famous,

1089
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: and uh, it's the worst show you've ever seen in

1090
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: your life. It's basically their version of Big Brother, except

1091
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: the people that they choose are all like these meta

1092
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: gene influencers. So the conversations are the fucking worst conversations

1093
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: you've ever fucking heard. And it's a four month season.

1094
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Four month season, it's like four months of my life.

1095
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: I have this ship playing on every night and I'm like,

1096
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: holy fuck, I can ask my wife, how the fuck

1097
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: can you watch this?

1098
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 4: Is that the show where the dude I feel like,

1099
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: like a year ago, on TikTok, there was some Hispanic

1100
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 4: dude who got caught cheating on his girlfriend like on

1101
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 4: camera and then was devastated and like crying. It was awesome.

1102
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: It is great, but I can't remember enough su.

1103
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: So this one has a guy who got left by

1104
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: his wife on this season and doesn't even know it

1105
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: because they don't tell them what's happening in the outside world.

1106
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: Has been served with the world, they're about to be

1107
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: served with the worce fapers.

1108
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 4: I mean, that's honestly great TV.

1109
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, unfortunately you have to hear them converse, and

1110
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: it's like hearing you know that that that that line

1111
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: on Twitter. You've seen like two dumb bitches being like exactly,

1112
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: it's that over and over and over again. All right, Last,

1113
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: but not least, Ricky Simone taking on a Adrian Adrian

1114
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: jan Yez. This is an interesting one. Young yes, thirty

1115
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: two years of age, but lost three of his last

1116
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: four now not necessarily against bad fighters. Rob font This

1117
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: is all the way back in twenty twenty three, good

1118
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: fighter Jonathan Martinez, hell of a leg kicking game, it's

1119
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: how he got the stoppach and Daniel Marcos out of

1120
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: Peru is one of the more underrated I think Hispanic

1121
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: kind of prospects out there in the sports. But these

1122
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: are all guys you would have thought that Yaniez would

1123
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: have beaten. I think he may have been favored in

1124
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: most of these to win. Simon is not, you know,

1125
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of leveled out, but has cardio

1126
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: pace wrestling. How do you assess the stakes here, Jed,

1127
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: and as well as how they match up.

1128
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: Uh, just looking at it, Yanyees was not favorite over

1129
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: Daniel Marcos. He's favorite of everybody else. So yeah, I

1130
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: think this fight also is really like great. It's weird

1131
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: that it's so low on the card, But then you

1132
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 4: look at it and kind of makes sense. Basically, both

1133
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: dudes are just sort of out of the mix, right,

1134
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: Like they had moments they were top fifteen, top twenty

1135
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: guys in the weight class, fell enough that were not there.

1136
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: There was like a real brief moment where I was like,

1137
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 4: Ricky Simone might be the truth because he's I don't know,

1138
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 4: one of his performances, like I he might just be

1139
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: the greatest fighter of all time, but didn't end up

1140
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 4: out frankly, but like this is it's a great style matchup.

1141
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 4: Raghizman's obviously going to try and wrestle him. Yanyez has

1142
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: great hands and pretty good takedown defense, Like that's not

1143
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: really where his faults have been there to think, Daniel

1144
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: Marcus got him down a few times. So I don't

1145
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: know what the stakes are here, like other than the

1146
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: losers not like gone, but they're gone. They're out of

1147
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: ever really thinking about them much again. But like this

1148
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: is just sort of a really fun fistfight to put

1149
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: on a card. I'm excited to.

1150
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Watch what went wrong with Yanyez? Was he overestimated? I'll

1151
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: give you one of my theories. I don't know if

1152
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: it's the right answer, certainly not the most complete answer.

1153
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: A big part of it for me was defense. You know,

1154
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: when he was dealing on guys and putting combinations together

1155
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: and then funneling them through his pressure and his jab,

1156
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, I think you saw some pretty impressive things.

1157
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: But when they were able to move around and then

1158
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: land on him or you know, otherwise find ways to

1159
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: create openings on him, it just totally derailed his offense.

1160
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: So he actually does have pretty signal I think, pretty

1161
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: good ability, but I think it's a little lopsided in

1162
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: favor of his offense.

1163
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's correct, right, Like he rob

1164
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: Famp was durable enough to take it and then dished

1165
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: it back and that was the end of it. And

1166
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: like you've got a guy like Martinez who's just very

1167
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: very composite, well built, all parts of his game are there,

1168
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: and it just it struggled for him. Danny Marcus again,

1169
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: like a really well rounded dude can kind of take

1170
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: the fight everywhere. And if you have a defensive liability

1171
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: like Yanyez does, then your offense needs to really get

1172
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: going fast, and it hasn't. He doesn't have that dynamic

1173
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: of an offense. It's good if he can start settling

1174
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: in and cooking, but he's not going to blow your

1175
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: doors off almost instantaneously. And so I'm with you. I

1176
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: think defense is sort of the biggest issue for.

1177
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: Him Long Island. What do we miss on this card

1178
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: that you have your eye on.

1179
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 5: I mean you literally just didn't talk about the two

1180
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 5: women's fights the return at Casey O'Neil. He talked about

1181
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 5: the coin all right, Well, the two women's fights on

1182
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 5: the prelims and then the other rebatch on the card.

1183
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 5: Alexia Tinara had taken on Bruno Brazil. I believe Tinara,

1184
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: besides Michael Kisa, the second biggest favorite on the card,

1185
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 5: but she technically lost their first fight, so she's looking

1186
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 5: for redemption here. I mean, whatever, man, When I looked

1187
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: at this card, she didn't.

1188
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: Technically lose she lost.

1189
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 5: No, she did lose. I'm just saying she's a minus

1190
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 5: seven hundred favorite now, so she's supposed to redeem.

1191
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: Her Why how did that happen? How did what happen

1192
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: the favorite or the how did she go from losing

1193
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: to ending of being a miss.

1194
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 5: Was like their first or second professional fight. It was

1195
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 5: like on the region all years ago. But the other

1196
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 5: thing is, Dude, I was actually pleasantly surprised when I

1197
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: just looked at this card top to bottom. I was like,

1198
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 5: there's actually a lot of fun fights on it. Like

1199
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: I'll actually gladly be doing the full card watch a

1200
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 5: long tomorrow five pm. Tune in, Thank you very much.

1201
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: This is what I mean, jed, Like, this is where

1202
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: UFC is excelling. To me. They are troublesome at the

1203
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: bottom end of their product because no one wants the

1204
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: Apex slop. They're troublesome at the high end the product

1205
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: because they don't want to make the fights that are

1206
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: the most important to make right now. But that in

1207
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: between tier the fight night on the road tier where

1208
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: they've got you know, a former champion surgeon contender in

1209
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: a main event. This is actually where the product I

1210
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: think is actually the least deserving of criticism. There's actually

1211
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: a lot to like on this card.

1212
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I really enjoy this card. I didn't, which

1213
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 4: I didn't think I did when I sort of just

1214
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: was casually looking at it, And then as I started

1215
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: to prep this week and dive into it's like, there

1216
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 4: are a lot of good things. It's probably a Little Long.

1217
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 4: There are a couple of thats like I don't care

1218
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 4: about I don't care about Tyn Arborzil Like that also

1219
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 4: a fight that wasn't supposed to happen on either side.

1220
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 4: It is a total true Like it is a total

1221
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: Frankenstein of a fight, like both women were not initially

1222
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 4: booked against each other. You know, we took the circuitus

1223
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 4: route to get here in this proxy war that I

1224
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: don't care about. But like everything else or most everything

1225
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 4: has purpose. It has something of interest either one side

1226
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: or both. The fights are not all of them, but

1227
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 4: many of them are competitive. Like this is this is

1228
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 4: as good as you're gonna get these days for like

1229
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 4: a non pay per view show, and like should be

1230
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 4: a really good time, right, Like this is what I

1231
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: hope and expect from a road show UFC card.

1232
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Long Island.

1233
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 5: You wanted to chime in here lastly, Yeah, I was

1234
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 5: just gonna say, this is everything like Judd just said

1235
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 5: we want in a road card. Look at next weekend's card,

1236
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 5: and that is everything that is currently wrong with the product.

1237
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 5: Next Weekend's card is arguably the worst card of the

1238
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 5: year this weekend, Like you, I wish they almost took

1239
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 5: four or five fights off of this, sprinkled them on

1240
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 5: next weekend vice versa, because next week is bad.

1241
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 4: Not arguable, it's the worst card of the year.

1242
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: Next week can't wait? All right, Before we get to

1243
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: topic number three, let's remind everyone about our good friends

1244
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: at Cuervo, and you guys know how this goes. April eighth,

1245
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: will be back in studio to get you ready for

1246
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: UFC three twenty seven. But right now, from face off

1247
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: to final decision, fight night delivers the adrenaline, and Cuervo

1248
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: has the energy to match. Whether you're hosting your crew

1249
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: at home or catching the action at the bar, Quervo

1250
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: brings the good vibes that turn every round into a celebration.

1251
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 1: From margaritas to palomas. Every main event simply tastes better

1252
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: with the world's most iconic tequila. So no matter who

1253
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: walks out with the belt with Quervo in hand, you're

1254
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: already celebrating like an undisputed champion for every round. Keep

1255
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: it fun, keep it Quervo one more time, April eighth.

1256
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: April eighth, back in New York City for UFC three

1257
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: twenty seven pregame preview. All right, Jed let's move to

1258
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: topic number three. We're gonna talk about PFL in just

1259
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: a little bit, but the news that happened after last

1260
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 1: Monday was the basically this, we're waiting on a Chris

1261
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: Avila fight, but in general, we know what the full

1262
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: card is now for Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carano. It's

1263
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: a most viable promotions card. It's gonna be on Netflix,

1264
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: as we all know, May sixteenth, Los Angeles at the

1265
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: Enduit Dome, and in your main event, we already knew

1266
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: Rowsy Carano. Then you have Enganu Lens and you have

1267
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz and Michael Perry. They finally added the other fights.

1268
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: Let me very quickly go through them. Saladin Parnass taking

1269
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: on Kenny Cross, Junior dol Santo's taken on Robalista Spain,

1270
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: Muhammed Makayev taking on Adriano Moraisch. You have Lorenz Larkin

1271
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: Tasent taking on Jason Jackson. A couple of prospects down there,

1272
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: including but not limited to the sister of Poeton, Aleen Pereira,

1273
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: who I don't think is all that great, but you know,

1274
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: I see why she's on the card, all right. Jed

1275
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: taking a look at this card. First, I want you

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Speaker 1: to rate it, like give me some kind of a

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Speaker 1: rating system and where this card would fit in. And

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Speaker 1: then secondly I will tell you, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: just anecdotal, I don't really know, but it does seem

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Speaker 1: like fans seem to be pretty positive towards this event.

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Speaker 1: What is this card doing right that is appealing to them?

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Speaker 1: So first the rating, then why it's appealing.

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Speaker 4: Luke, I have two rating systems that I use for

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Speaker 4: depending on quality, and we're gonna use the letter. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's always around, always always around. At the base, it's.

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Speaker 3: Imports, dicks everywhere, dicks.

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Speaker 4: Uh. I'll give this a two maschuelin star system, which

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Speaker 4: is based on the Michelin Guide of you know, one

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Speaker 4: star means like, one star means is really good, like

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Speaker 4: you should you know, if you're in town, you should

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Speaker 4: go to this place. Two star means this is worth

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Speaker 4: a you know, a trip, not a big trip, but

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Speaker 4: like you can plan. And three star means to just go,

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Speaker 4: like fly across the country whatever. I think, Like this

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Speaker 4: MVP card, if I was in the this is going

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Speaker 4: down at the end to it dome. If I was

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Speaker 4: in the general Las Vegas area, I'd go to this

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Speaker 4: car like because the spectacle, the interests, like are the

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Speaker 4: fights elite? No, but some of them are pretty good frankly,

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Speaker 4: as they filled out this undercard, so like, I would

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Speaker 4: definitely go if i'm And also tickets aren't even that expensive,

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Speaker 4: Like I would plan a short drive, you know, a

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Speaker 4: couple hours to go see this if I were in

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Speaker 4: the area. And I think so I read the down

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Speaker 4: obviously when you send this out and you start to

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Speaker 4: do the prep, and I spent a lot of time

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 4: thinking about why this is resonating because it's a really

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01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 4: good question that I hadn't considered it because I was

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 4: just like, oh, I'm into this, and people seem to

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Speaker 4: be into this, and I think the answer, at least

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Speaker 4: for me, maybe not for everybody else. Man, they're trying,

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 4: like this is what effort looks like. Is it the

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Speaker 4: best card?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Is this as good as the White House card? No,

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Speaker 4: it's not. I'm not here to say that. But they can't.

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Speaker 4: They don't have all the fighters to do that. But

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Speaker 4: what MVP has done is they have put their best

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Speaker 4: foot forward. And what we didn't get is like we

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Speaker 4: got with the White House car, where it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: we wanted these matchups, but instead we got the like

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Speaker 4: these are the fights they wanted to book. Largely, there's

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Speaker 4: obviously a little bit asterisk there because they they wanted

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Speaker 4: Francis and Ganu Brahoven got you know, took a boxing

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Speaker 4: fight instead. But the rest of this is effort, and

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Speaker 4: some of it's effort I didn't even really can considered

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Speaker 4: to be options. Right, Like we when they first announced

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Speaker 4: this loop, we did a how should they match make

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Speaker 4: this out? And it never occurred to me that Nataz

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Speaker 4: Mike Perry was a possibility. It never occurred to me

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Speaker 4: that Muhammahaa Agrion Martinz was a possibility.

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Speaker 5: Like they have.

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Speaker 4: Filled this out with really high coal, like the best

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Speaker 4: stuff they can make. They're making an effort, and like

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Speaker 4: we just I at least appreciate that they're doing the

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Speaker 4: best they can, which is not felt like what the

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Speaker 4: UFC has proffered us this year.

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Speaker 1: I think these are great answers. If I may let

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Speaker 1: me float to you one of my theories on this, because,

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Speaker 1: like you, I thought about this because when they first

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Speaker 1: announced the main event, I was like, all right, it'll

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Speaker 1: do big business. But you know, I saw a Rousey's career.

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Speaker 1: I covered Genus fights, like you know, it doesn't move

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Speaker 1: me in that particular way. It still doesn't. However, they

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Speaker 1: accumulated total of this card. Now it's kind of interesting

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Speaker 1: to me. My theory on this is among your reasons.

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Speaker 1: I think it is a good explain tory way. The

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Speaker 1: other one is, like you know, partly it's just new

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Speaker 1: and remixed, so it feels a little fresher. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got who had Mohammed Mokayev and Adreano Martins getting

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Speaker 1: put together? I mean heads heads No what Adreon Martinez Maraish,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, I did it?

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Speaker 4: I did it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm dead wronging us in real time. It's not

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Speaker 1: Martinez is morasch.

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Speaker 5: I just got to point out, Luke, you said it

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Speaker 5: all last episode and we got like a lot of

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Speaker 5: dead wrong emails.

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Speaker 4: Yes, as I was watching, like because I just it

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Speaker 4: just happens, just happens.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of names you have to remember in

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Speaker 1: this game, all right, Marish, but who would have thought

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Speaker 1: to put that pairing together? That's and also Slidin Parnass

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Cross. It's a great fight. Those two are

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Speaker 1: my favorite fights. On this card by a million miles.

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Speaker 1: But they're unusually new remixed pairings, so that's big. But

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Speaker 1: the real reason I think that this is kind of

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Speaker 1: resonating Jed is that, again not by just the main

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Speaker 1: event itself, but like the the event is that people

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Speaker 1: are pointing out that these fights are frivolous, Right, the

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Speaker 1: main event, what is it really mean for women's one

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Speaker 1: forty five? Whatever the fuck that even is anymore? And

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Speaker 1: like not much really right, or you know, Nate Diaz,

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Speaker 1: Mike Perry, like, do we think that this tells us

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Speaker 1: who the top welterweight in the world is? Like, of course,

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Speaker 1: we don't not even close. So in that sense, they're frivolous.

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Speaker 1: But I actually think that that's working out for it

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Speaker 1: because I think because it has star power and because

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Speaker 1: it's remixed in new and interesting and novel ways. To

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Speaker 1: your point, they're also just trying and spending money to

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Speaker 1: build up the grandiosity. And then on top of it,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, if Nate Diz wins, is he close

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Speaker 1: to a title shot? Who gives a fuck? Just have

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Speaker 1: a good time. Like the fact that it's low stakes

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Speaker 1: actually in this particular case, now not always certainly you

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Speaker 1: need stakes, you need architecture, you need the weight of

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Speaker 1: like you know, this guy's fighting for a UFC contract.

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Speaker 1: Those are good forces to have generally. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying I think this card works because it doesn't have

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Speaker 1: any of that pretension. It doesn't matter, Oh, where's Ronda

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Speaker 1: gonna go from here, whatever big ass fights they can

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Speaker 1: make if she wins, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 1: there's no there's no heaviness to it about being attached

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Speaker 1: to some kind of architecture or system. It just feels

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Speaker 1: free and light and fun and frivolous because I think

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Speaker 1: by design that's what they're going for. They're going to

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Speaker 1: make fun and frivolity something that seems to be missing,

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Speaker 1: and rather than it being a marker of a lack

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Speaker 1: of quality, it's a marker of the amount of fun

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Speaker 1: you can have. It's actually, I think, to me, an

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Speaker 1: interesting time for this, for this effort, dude.

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Speaker 4: This has been my longest standing take. Maybe in the

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01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 4: whole sport is like, stop doing what you're doing, PFO,

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01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 4: and your brand just needs to be where the fun.

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01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 4: Organization like MVP just did that in one thing, and

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Speaker 4: maybe they don't ever put on another card I think

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01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 4: they probably will, but like they did it, there's like, hey,

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 4: look what if we're just fun? What if we just

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 4: have a good time and that's all We're just And

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Speaker 4: you know what the sport needs right now, Luke, it

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01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 4: needs some vibes franally, So this is awesome. Like I

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Speaker 4: am very much looking forward to the MVP card. I

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 4: think they did about as good as you could ever

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Speaker 4: hope for them to do their first time out. Now,

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Speaker 4: whether that translates, whether all the fights ends up being fun,

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Speaker 4: They've never you know, these are not, you know, inexperienced promoters.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that they will put forth a fine live product,

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Speaker 4: but your first time doing something new always comes with challenges.

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Speaker 4: We'll see how that manifests. But broadly I'm pumped about

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 1: Uh Long Island. You have been a critic of this

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01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: card and in general a hater. Where are you now

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: that you see the entire effort? Where what is your

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01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: temperature on this?

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Speaker 5: I mean, dude, there's some fun fights on it, But

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Speaker 5: I gotta say Jed giving it to Michuelenz stars as

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Speaker 5: wild to me. I would not drive to go see

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 5: this card could be at MSG and I am not

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Speaker 5: going to that card.

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Speaker 1: A price point there selling it. It's very affordable.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I would probably go with media. I

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 5: wouldn't pay anyway, But the point is like, I wouldn't

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 5: waste my time going. It's like going to a PFL card.

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 5: I feel like it's like, sure, you're gonna see some

1435
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 5: legends on it, you're gonna see some old washed UFC veterans,

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Speaker 5: and you might see.

1437
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: Something much bigger than that goff something like this.

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01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 4: I have been to many PFL cards.

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01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 5: It feels PF PFL E to me, where it's just like, yeah,

1440
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 5: there's some names I know on it, and there's some

1441
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 5: fun prospects, but it's not enough to like, I don't know, dude,

1442
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: it's gonna do good numbers. Don't get me wrong, You're right,

1443
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 5: I am a hater on it, but I just feel like,

1444
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 5: first of all, I'm not driving. I'm not. I wouldn't

1445
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 5: even go. If that ship is fucking down the road

1446
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 5: for me right now, I would go, Hell no, I

1447
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 5: wouldn't ludicrous PFL. Bro, you brand this PFL right now,

1448
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 5: and I feel like you guys wouldn't. You'd be like, oh, this.

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01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: Card sucks, Yeah, that's got no equity is not going

1450
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: to help much.

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01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 5: It's card. It's the same EXCT card.

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01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: This is the level of celebrity Netflix, dude. Just Ronda

1453
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: alone introduces a level of celebrity that PFL has never

1454
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: even approximated.

1455
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 5: Like I'm talking about here, all right, Randa sure is

1456
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 5: a level above like in Ghanu. But they've had a

1457
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 5: card headlined by Anghanu. They've had this exact gimmick before.

1458
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,959
Speaker 1: Essentially, No, dude, this is a much greater level of celebrity.

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01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: I fundamentally disagree with that on this terrible.

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01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 5: Take this.

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 4: Straight up, luke, Like this is going to be the

1463
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 4: biggest MMA event of all time. I would absolutely drive

1464
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 4: three hours to be part of. Like more people are

1465
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 4: going to watch this event than have ever watched an

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01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 4: M and A fight by a lot by like a

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01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,440
Speaker 4: lot a lot. I would absolutely drive to that. And

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01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 4: it's gonna be pretty fun, man, Like I genuinely believe

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01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 4: we're gonna have fun.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you just like to eat junk food. This is

1471
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: just junk food, you know what I mean. It's just

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01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: junk food.

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 5: And I just got to say, you were giving me

1474
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 5: ship when the UFC you asked for state and they

1475
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 5: give you jello. This is fucking jello too, bro, And

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01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 5: you just said it's dunk food and you're willing to eat.

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01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: It's a little more than Jello's right.

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01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 4: If I go to a prime steakhouse and you offer

1479
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 4: me shit, I'm going to be upset. But if I

1480
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 4: brought the McDonald's, I run McDonald's.

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01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 5: You're going to the into It Dome, the Prime Steakhouse,

1482
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 5: the Prime Venue just to get this shit for me.

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: This is more like, hey, when I want a steak,

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to be served jello. That's one problem.

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01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: This is to me trying to find a really good

1486
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: Philly cheese steak, you know what I mean, and you

1487
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: go to like a nice place that makes it real

1488
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: fucking good. It's not a steak. It can never be

1489
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: a steak. It's not on the same level as that.

1490
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: But it's got its own kind of trashy value. That's

1491
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: what this has to me. You know, you now have.

1492
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 4: Me debating internally if would I rather have a great

1493
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 4: steak or a great Philly cheese steak. And that's a

1494
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 4: tough fight.

1495
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: And it depends on the steak. If the steak is

1496
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: truly next level then I want the steak, you know,

1497
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: but if it's gonna be shitty ass steak, I'm gonna

1498
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: pick cheese steaks. What cut you, oh, I'd say, I'm

1499
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: a First of all, I'm a big prime rib guy.

1500
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: I love prime rib. I I'm not too picky on cut.

1501
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: Really depends on the place I can go strip, you know,

1502
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: depending more recently, I'll go boning RIBI kind of thing.

1503
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 4: What about you, I'm a pussy. Give me a filet

1504
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Blue perfect.

1505
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: Due you that shit. I remember the first I used

1506
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: to work at a steakhouse. This was my first job

1507
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: after college before I got a decent job. And I

1508
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: mean that was a fine job too, for you know,

1509
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: the summer after college. But you know, anyway, it was

1510
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: in Williamsburg, Virginia. I mean there's you know, if you're

1511
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: gonna do it like I work at a steakhouse, trying

1512
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 1: to do it work at a place that's not in Williamsburg, Virginia.

1513
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: But uh, I had never even heard of Blue until

1514
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: someone introduced it to me. And I was like, so wait,

1515
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers don't want you to cook their shit.

1516
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 4: And just in the general vicinity of the fire that

1517
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 4: the way it was explained to me was they want

1518
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 4: you to cook it just enough so they don't get sick.

1519
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 4: Let's correct, dude, it's so good.

1520
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: I think I could do that with like wag you,

1521
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: but I couldn't do it with like regular American steak

1522
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: I could.

1523
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 4: I would never do that at a fucking outback, but

1524
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 4: like you go to a real steakhouse. I will go

1525
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 4: like people, because I don't even know if alback would

1526
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 4: do it, Like if you're like, can I do? I

1527
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 4: assume they'd be like, I know, but you go to

1528
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 4: their a couple of very good steakhouse in Atlanta. There's

1529
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 4: one right next to me that I love to go to.

1530
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 4: Uh and man, that's the best.

1531
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to topic number four here. The

1532
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: other major event taking place this weekend is PFL Pittsburgh.

1533
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: We talked about it on Monday, a dueling middleweight non

1534
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: title main events. It's headlined in this particular case by

1535
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: Johnny Evelin taking on Brian Battle. This will be Brian

1536
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: Battle's PFL debut. Is it fair to say that the

1537
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: common thread in this fight are the multiple ways jed

1538
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: that Frankly, both Johnny Eblin and Brian Battle need their

1539
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: own forms of redemption, I guess.

1540
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 4: But I don't know why when you, Like, when I

1541
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 4: was reading the docket, something just struck me wrong, as

1542
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 4: like it doesn't feel like redemption is the right word.

1543
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: But I can't think of the right word for Brian

1544
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 4: Battle because like for Eblin, yeah, he lost, and this

1545
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 4: is the return for Brian Battle. It's like, Okay, Eblin

1546
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 4: lost because he lost. Brian Battle hasn't lost, but just

1547
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 4: sort of was undone by his own arrogance and hubrist

1548
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 4: as a tragic hero. But like in the tragic hero arc,

1549
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 4: when you are undone by it, you don't you just

1550
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 4: get to know that you did it and then you

1551
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 4: still have a tragic end, Like that's how Sophocles fucking works,

1552
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 4: you know. So I think that's the hope that you

1553
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 4: go with, is that or maybe not the hope, but

1554
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 4: that's how it feels like this should be Brian Battle's

1555
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 4: come up and which he hasn't really received, whereas Eblin

1556
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 4: feels very redemptive, right, like, hey man, you were seconds

1557
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 4: away from beating Castello Monstinas and continuing this run and

1558
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 4: now the worst thing happened. Can you get back on track?

1559
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 4: He just resigned with the PFL, So it's not like

1560
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 4: he wins and then leaves. He wins and maybe rematches

1561
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 4: monstenas But I guess you're right, right, like Battle is

1562
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 4: trying to redeem himself. But is he has he said

1563
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: something that makes you think he's learned the error of

1564
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 4: his ways, because I haven't seen that if he has.

1565
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: Said it, I'm not so sure about that part. Where

1566
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: did I go? Where am I? Did you lose me?

1567
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: Long Island?

1568
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: It's my show? Now there you go?

1569
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 5: But the I don't know why you're gone?

1570
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: This is fun. Well, now you can hear both of them.

1571
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: There we go, There we go? You glitched out on us? There,

1572
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: Long Island? My bad.

1573
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 5: I got the two computer situations.

1574
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 1: All right, very good. I forgot what point I was

1575
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna make here about oh Brian about to learn his lesson? Well,

1576
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: I mean, let's see if he makes weight, right, that's

1577
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: kind of a pretty critical component here. Let's see if

1578
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: he MAXs weight, and let's see what he looks like

1579
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: when he gets out after it. I think also, like

1580
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm in lockstep with the fan

1581
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: base on this particular equation, And maybe you are I'm

1582
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: not sure. The fan base has been pretty high on

1583
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: Brian battle. He had a pretty good win streak for

1584
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,959
Speaker 1: the most part. You know, obviously it's not without blemish,

1585
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: but I'm saying in generally like like that. For example,

1586
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: like the Juse fight in France, where he just kind

1587
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: of you know, battered the guy over time, getting in

1588
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: his face, lancing behind the jab was pretty impressive, and

1589
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a and then he talked big on

1590
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: the mic like people were like, oh, he's a guy

1591
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: to pay attention to. But like, to my mind, well,

1592
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: I think he's certainly intriguing and that's a nice win,

1593
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: and certainly the one against Randy Brown he got you know,

1594
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in a minute. But like to

1595
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: me in general, Jed, he hasn't beaten anyone that makes

1596
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: me go, oh wow, you know, this is destined for

1597
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: something quite big. Beating Eblin to me would be exactly

1598
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: that kind of a win. And I guess what I'm

1599
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: trying to point out is I find the hype around

1600
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: him intriguing because it's of course hype often precedes authenticity,

1601
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: but to me, this one is like very much in

1602
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: excess of what we now know to be true. So

1603
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: it's not declaring he can't. It's just that I found

1604
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: it kind of intriguing that the fan base jumped on

1605
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: this guy when he's clearly good. But I don't it's

1606
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 1: it remains very unclear how good he actually is.

1607
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, this would be the best one of his career

1608
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 4: by a lot, right, by a substantial margin. And it

1609
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 4: feels like people just got behind him because he was

1610
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 4: having some good performances, right, not not over the best competition,

1611
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 4: but he was having good performances, and when he was

1612
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 4: on the mic and saying stuff, it felt authentic, right,

1613
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 4: like he he showed himself. And I feel like we

1614
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 4: underestimate how much people can gravitate to a specific kind

1615
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 4: of self, you know, Like I think I think if

1616
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 4: he had been full Colby Covington, maybe that doesn't really

1617
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 4: work for everybody because it's obviously an actor put on,

1618
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 4: but Brian Battle just kind of seemed like a bit

1619
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 4: of an ass and that is going to engender feelings

1620
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 4: one way or another, especially when you're coming off of

1621
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 4: several good performances and then the controversy of the way cuts,

1622
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 4: et cetera. So yeah, I don't know where the public

1623
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 4: stands on him as like a guy to pay attention to.

1624
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 4: But this fight I think is good booking, and if

1625
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 4: he wins, we will simply have to pay attention to him,

1626
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: because Johnny Ablin may not be a top fifteen guy,

1627
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 4: though he probably is in the neighborhood, but he's certainly

1628
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 4: like a top twenty twenty five guy at middleweight. So

1629
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 4: Brian like this will be the best one of his career.

1630
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: All right, These odds, to me are are correct because

1631
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: I did some tapes out ahead of obviously today's show.

1632
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: Johnny Evlin is sitting at minus three ninety five versus

1633
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: Brian Battle at plus three ten. You know it is true.

1634
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 1: For example, if you go to the fight as I

1635
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: mentioned between Brian Battle and Randy Brown that was his

1636
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: last UFC fight, he gets up. Excuse me, I should

1637
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: say Brown gets no takedowns in the second or the third,

1638
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: and he attempted. Although also it should be noted that

1639
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: Brian Battle went like zero for four on takedowns in

1640
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 1: the third round. But Brown did take him down very

1641
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,600
Speaker 1: easily two times in the first round, once off a

1642
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: judo trip and the one off a bobby lock. And

1643
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: then more importantly Jed. If you look at Brian Battle's game,

1644
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: he lances behind the jab, which I think is a

1645
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: fun part of it. He'll mix it up into clinch,

1646
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: which I think is another fun part of it. But

1647
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: he loves to pressure people physically, like locked hands into

1648
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,919
Speaker 1: the fence and to get into that kind of clinch scenario.

1649
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that seems like a really fucking bad

1650
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: idea against Johnny Evelin, who I don't think is as

1651
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: well rounded as he needs to be to maximize his potential.

1652
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: But just on the wrestling side of things, you're like

1653
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: serving it up for him if he does that. Do

1654
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: you think that this style of fighting is what's going

1655
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: to trip up Brian comes Saturday night.

1656
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is probably gonna be bad for him.

1657
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 4: I mean also, like he's I don't know if this

1658
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 4: is his first middleweight fight. I don't remember what the dbx's.

1659
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 4: I think we're middleweight. But that's also a little bit different.

1660
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 4: And those were not very good fighters that he competed against.

1661
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 4: But you know, like he mostly was a welterweight. He

1662
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 4: couldn't make weight, so like, I think he'll just be

1663
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 4: giving up some natural size in general and against a

1664
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 4: very good dude who has a style that should on

1665
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 4: paper pose real problems for him. And I don't you know,

1666
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 4: this is only three rounds, right, so it's not like

1667
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: he can even maybe hold on to pull off a

1668
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 4: miracle comeback like Vonstein has did at the end of

1669
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 4: that fight. Like he's got to find a way to

1670
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 4: get ahead, because I don't love his chances to finish Eblin,

1671
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: who is in general quite durable. I think Johnny Eblin's

1672
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 4: getting back and the win calm on Saturday.

1673
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: Then we takes us to and I think by the

1674
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: way of Eblin, I mean winner here probably gets a

1675
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: title shot no matter what Eblin. Certainly, here's your rankings

1676
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: for PFL at the time or at the moment, I

1677
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: should say, Vancine is currently you're champion obviously, Evelyn sitting

1678
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: at one, Edwards, who just fucking lost in the worst

1679
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: way imaginable, basically sitting at number two. Kasanga, who's in

1680
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: the main event comin eventscuse me, we'll talk about him,

1681
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: and then Rosta is sitting there as well. Battle is

1682
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: sitting at nine. But obviously if you beat the number

1683
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: one guy, it's probably going to be used. So let's

1684
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: talk about that comine event. Dalton Rosta is coming into

1685
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: this fight after suffering a terrible loss against Fabian Edwards.

1686
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: He got head kicked in the third round if Kasang

1687
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: and I has certainly been up and been down. His

1688
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: ups have been pretty great, his downs have been pretty low.

1689
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: He did lose todovoletz Don Yaksha Muradov back in twenty

1690
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: twenty four and then back to back Fabian Edwards, but

1691
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 1: he rebounded against Andrew Sanchez, scoring a stoppage in round

1692
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: number three. So how do you what's the context here

1693
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: when you look at this matchup between them? I certainly

1694
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: expect action, and I do think they have an outside

1695
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: case for a title shot depending on how it goes.

1696
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else to say about the context

1697
01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: of this matchup.

1698
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not much to say. This is just like

1699
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 4: good fight, right, like a a high quality top ranked

1700
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 4: middleweights in PFL, Like this is Paulo Costa versus Jared

1701
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 4: Cannon here, you know, like sure, and in the PFL

1702
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 4: that means maybe you're getting a title fight. Probably not,

1703
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 4: because I do think the winner of uh the main

1704
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 4: event is gonna get it. But like, this is a

1705
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 4: pretty good fight. Like if you were purely looking at

1706
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 4: this as like what is a quality matchup? Again, PFL

1707
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 4: has done very well. I learned this in our pre

1708
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 4: show Dalton Rosta from Pittsburgh. So they're taking a local

1709
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 4: guy there like they're the bones of something good here

1710
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 4: from pfluh and like I'm I'll tune in tomorrow. It

1711
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 4: will depend on the timeframe, right because a lot of

1712
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 4: stuff's happening tomorrow and they're going late with this PFL card.

1713
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 4: But good matchup.

1714
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention this on the Brian battle part.

1715
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: But if you just look at his UFC numbers, so

1716
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: take that for what it is worth. His takedown defense,

1717
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: you want to guess what it is percentage wise?

1718
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: Whow fifty five.

1719
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: Very close, fifty three not great, not great. I think

1720
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: against a guy like Johnny Evlin, that's going to prove

1721
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: to be very very difficult over. Yeah, that's a tough one.

1722
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: There are some other interesting elements on this card. Julio Rs,

1723
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: former UFC VET Colombian guy by the way, a three

1724
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 1: fight win streak taking on this kind of I don't

1725
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: know if i'd call him a prodigy. Pearaganda, I'm not

1726
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: sure I pronounce his last name Gond, but he's twenty

1727
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 1: four years old. He's undefeated, a little bit inexperienced, but

1728
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: pretty interesting and put up the card one more time

1729
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: if you can, sorry about that, you know. And then

1730
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: depending on the Ariana o Lipski now Ariana Desilva's on

1731
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: this card taking on Inaba, who is a belatoor veteran.

1732
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're what your level of interest is,

1733
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: but there you have it.

1734
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 4: I'm interested in the Paragonde fight because he's young, he's talented.

1735
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 4: I first, he first came like on my radar at

1736
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 4: a PFL where he beat a dude I used to

1737
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 4: train with, and I was like, and I beat him

1738
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 4: pretty convincingly Akeem Bashir, who's like not a great fighter,

1739
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 4: but you know, you know the guy. So you're like, oh,

1740
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 4: let's go a Keem. You're on the PFL. And then

1741
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 4: he got cooked. Young dude seems really talented. Some amateur

1742
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 4: experience where he was also quite good, So like that

1743
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 4: seems like the sort of guy that PFL wants to

1744
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 4: wants to grow. And Julio Arce is like a solid

1745
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 4: veteran test and that's a really good.

1746
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 1: Fight, all right, fair enough, I'm not even gonna ask

1747
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: long look about the rest of that. Let's go too

1748
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: if we can topic number five, we'll do MMA hits

1749
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: and misses, just kind of smaller stories, sort of from

1750
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: around the sport, okay, Jed. It was announced this week

1751
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 1: that Manel Kopp is going to face off for the

1752
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: second time against Kyogi Horaguci. You can see the graphic here.

1753
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: It'll be June twentieth. It'll be in las of A,

1754
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: I guess, at the Apex, which is fucking hilarious. We

1755
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: have this is where they fought when this Sytomas Super

1756
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: Arena the first time. On the left side of your screen.

1757
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: This is what it's going to be on the right now, Jed,

1758
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm not going to complain about the matchmaking. Hell of

1759
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: a fight. We were just talking about it, right the

1760
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: non title top contender fights. The UFC is actually doing

1761
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good job of those so far in twenty

1762
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: twenty six. But Jesus Christ, we're putting this in the

1763
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: fucking Apex. What's happening here?

1764
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 4: It's so stupid, man, I gets so like, I mean,

1765
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 4: this would be a perfect fight to take to Japan.

1766
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 4: You know, if you're trying to go back to that market,

1767
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 4: which they're kind of This seems like there's a semi

1768
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 4: permanent Well maybe we'll go back to Japan conversation. This

1769
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 4: would have been obviously ideal for that. I love the fight,

1770
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 4: I love the matchmaking. Fight makes sense at this point,

1771
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 4: right Like I thought Cop was gonna get the title shot.

1772
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 4: They gave it to Tyra. I don't really have any

1773
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 4: issues with that. Probably should have given it to Cop,

1774
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 4: but it's fine, So he's gonna have to fight again.

1775
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 4: You pair the two of these together. Pantosia is still

1776
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 4: in there, like we don't really know where his timeline is.

1777
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 4: But the winner of this fight obviously should their next

1778
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 4: fight should be for the belt. I hate when that

1779
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 4: is the case. And then you are in the APEX, right, like,

1780
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 4: you're never going to build this weight class if its

1781
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 4: job is to main event the Apex, because like that's

1782
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 4: just not how stars are born. Stars aren't born in

1783
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 4: the UFC Apex main events. This should be somewhere on

1784
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 4: a road show, preferably Japan, but anywhere you want to

1785
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 4: go is fine. But you know, set all out aside

1786
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 4: that rocks. The first fight was fun as hell. Can't

1787
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 4: wait to see him do it again, all right?

1788
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: Our next one is going to be our friends at

1789
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: Quervo helping us through with this one. What we're mixing

1790
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: up presented by Quervo for every round, Keep it fun,

1791
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Keep it Querovo. April eighth, one more time, April eighth.

1792
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back in studio for UFC three twenty

1793
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: seven pregame preview. Let's talk about this one. Rumors are

1794
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: swirling jed that Islam Akachev would return. I think they

1795
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: said in July, and then Dana White put out this

1796
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: on Instagram. He said, not true, it's August. I want

1797
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: to say something here if I can. I have seen

1798
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation that Islam. You know, remember there

1799
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he has a hand injury, which then

1800
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: do you see him hitting a heavy bag and he

1801
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: has no injury at all. And I saw a lot

1802
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: of people running to the idea that he was offered

1803
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: a fight against Ilia and ducked it. Let me just

1804
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: tell you what I heard, which I can't. I don't

1805
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: There's there's some parts that I don't know that I

1806
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: so I just can't say. But what I have heard,

1807
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: and I I feel like pretty good sourcing on this.

1808
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: The notion that Islam didduct anyone or denied any fight

1809
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: could not be further from the fucking truth that my

1810
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: understanding was that I'm not this part. I don't know,

1811
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what the issue is, but there were

1812
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: some other factor, some other force that caused some of

1813
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: the bigger matchups that were his way to not go through.

1814
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: And what those are your guests is certainly as good

1815
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:05,959
Speaker 1: as mine, but I had it on pretty good authority.

1816
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: He absolutely ducked zero fucking smoke. So I want to

1817
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: kind of put that out there. If it's going to

1818
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: be in August with now we're not gonna have Obviously

1819
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: it wouldn't put him a connor on the same card,

1820
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Who do you think it might be? Who do you

1821
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: think it should be? And what do you make of

1822
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: some of these kinds of claims about him ducking smoke.

1823
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna address the last part first. Uh, this is

1824
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 4: just the Islam Markichev story, which is really frustrating, Like

1825
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 4: it's really really stupid, and I think there are a

1826
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 4: number of reasons why. I think there are some people

1827
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 4: in this space who have inadvertently or maybe inadvertently helped

1828
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 4: to drive this like he's the best pound for pound

1829
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 4: fighter on the earth, on the planet. Do you really

1830
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 4: think he's ducking fucking anyone? No, I do. Have you

1831
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 4: ever heard that man talk and thought, that's the man

1832
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 4: who doubts his ability to defeat people? Of course, not

1833
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 4: like it's a ludicrous thing, but it is the story

1834
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 4: of Islamarkachev. Like, when he retires, I don't know if

1835
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 4: he'll be like in the real Goat conversation or not.

1836
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 4: He's one of, if not the best fighters of this generation.

1837
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 4: When he retires, we will all be like, man, we

1838
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 4: kind of didn't really appreciate him, huh, Like we just

1839
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 4: sort of told that guy to fuck off constantly. He

1840
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 4: was just the best dude in the world for like

1841
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 4: a really long time. And some of it is matchmate

1842
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 4: like just timing. You know, he fought Alexander Volkanovski twice,

1843
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 4: who is obviously very beloved, fought Dustin Poria is very beloved.

1844
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 4: You know, these sort of things happen, But like it

1845
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 4: was always ludicrous. The whole Taporia saga has been very,

1846
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 4: very ridiculous to me. But like the most infuriating part

1847
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 4: is people being like Iliot Tapuria has scared Islamokachev up

1848
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 4: to welterweight, which is an on its face, ridiculous assessment.

1849
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 4: But that's just sort of how we are with Islam.

1850
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 4: Like we hate him. The public broadly dislikes him for

1851
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 4: reasons that I don't think are valid, but whatever.

1852
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to be as clear as I

1853
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: possibly can. I heard that this from a couple of

1854
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: different people, and they were it was the notion that

1855
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: Islam was the issue here was fucking comical. And I

1856
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: think it's comical that he gets put in these situations constantly.

1857
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,679
Speaker 1: People are you to your point, You're so right, People

1858
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: are like, oh, Islam doesn't want these fights, and then

1859
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: eventually somebody these fights getting made and he fucking bulldozes

1860
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: these people. It's ridiculous. But one more time. That's what

1861
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: we're mixing up. Presented by our friends at Cuervo for

1862
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 1: every round, Keep it fun, keep at Cuerrevo. We'll see

1863
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 1: you guys April eighth. April eighth, back in New York City. Uh,

1864
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: continuing on for our hits and missus here Jed, Let's

1865
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: see we have one championship announced yesterday that they're cutting

1866
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 1: their strawweight division and some of the fighters that were

1867
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 1: going through with it. I don't know if I have

1868
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: any big reaction other than they're not necessarily not an

1869
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: MMA organization anymore, jed, but they're only, like it's very

1870
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 1: clear at this point they're only a very partial MMA

1871
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: organization and they're much more kind of a striking based

1872
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,719
Speaker 1: martial arts promotion that does some MMA. Do you agree

1873
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: with that?

1874
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 4: How do you disagree with that? At this point, Like

1875
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 4: they have consistently just sort of bottomed out their MMA

1876
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 4: for years now, and that makes sense I get apparently,

1877
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 4: you know, talking to some people, it seems like the

1878
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 4: numbers they release are always curious and I don't want

1879
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 4: to say they're false because I can't say that affirmatively,

1880
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 4: but like they've made good, broad decisions right to focus

1881
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 4: on the things that they are very good at, which

1882
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 4: is making muay Thai and kickboxing matchups a little bit

1883
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 4: of grappling stuff.

1884
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1885
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 4: The rotolos are still over there that they are pitched behind,

1886
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 4: but like none of their successes of the last like

1887
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 4: four or five years have been MMA related really, and

1888
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 4: so it kind of just feels like once DJ retired,

1889
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 4: the last thing they had that really made them super

1890
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 4: invested in this left and now they can slowly just

1891
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 4: kind of say goodbye to it and focus on the

1892
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 4: things that they are best at, which, you know, good

1893
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 4: for them, it's good business.

1894
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: Uh, brock Lesnar, we don't have the whole thing, but

1895
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: he told a Barstool podcast this week, and here's just

1896
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 1: sort of a quote you can pull from it. Quote,

1897
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Dana White wanted nothing to do with me. This was

1898
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: on the Spit and Chicklets, which is a hockey podcast

1899
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: that they do jed and as you actually one that

1900
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure how they booked that, but

1901
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: they booked it.

1902
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 4: Does his Sun play hockey? Maybe his Sun plays hockey?

1903
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: His Sun does play hockey. Yes, Okay, both his kids

1904
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: are I think D one athletes or maybe his kids

1905
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 1: still in high school, but it's his daughter is certainly

1906
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: a D one athlete. But he had said in this

1907
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: interview a few different things, wanting it to like buy

1908
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: his own ticket to the event, just to like to

1909
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: track down Dana to make it happen, and that Dana

1910
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: had no interest in it. You know, it's kind of funny,

1911
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: like I can't claim that before brock Lesner came into

1912
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: MMA that I was high on that idea. I didn't

1913
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: know anything about pro wrestling. I didn't know how big

1914
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: brock Lesner was. What I can tell you is, I

1915
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 1: remember the first time I looked at my traffic on

1916
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: BloodyElbow dot com after the brock Lesner versus Frankmeir fight,

1917
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy fucking shit. I've never even

1918
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: seen traffic numbers like that at any point but prior

1919
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: to running that site. And that's when I knew this

1920
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be a different animal. But like, between that

1921
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 1: and like not wanting rousing in there, it's like Dana

1922
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: often has to get talked into very good decisions that

1923
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: the organization ultimately takes.

1924
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 4: Dude, I love that story from you because I don't

1925
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 4: know if you like read or watched the full interview

1926
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 4: or read like a full write up, but that is

1927
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 4: it's like, that's exactly how Brock tells the story for Dana.

1928
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 4: It's like Dana didn't want to be involved with me.

1929
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 4: I had to run up and show, you know, buy

1930
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 4: my own ticket, which was wild. Like that part of

1931
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 4: the story, assuming it's true, which is no reason not

1932
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 4: to believe, it was like I didn't that's insane that

1933
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 4: he like just made this happen, but Dana didn't want to,

1934
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 4: so he gave me a one time trial basis and

1935
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 4: I lost. And I was in the rocker room in

1936
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 4: the back saying, oh, why fucked it up up? And

1937
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 4: then Dana walked in was like, dude, have you seen

1938
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 4: your pay per view numbers? Let's work out a deal.

1939
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the best.

1940
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 4: I loved that story. This was awesome, Like, I had

1941
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 4: no idea any of this. You know that, Dana, because

1942
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 4: it always just felt like Dana would have been very

1943
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 4: invested in this, right like, because I mean shit, Dana

1944
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 4: let James Tony fight in the UFC, you know, man, Like,

1945
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 4: at least brock Lesner had something that you could maybe

1946
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 4: get behind, and even in the loss to Frank Mier,

1947
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 4: you saw something outside of the pay per view numbers

1948
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 4: that was like, Okay, there's something to work with here.

1949
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 4: And then he became a champion in four fights and

1950
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 4: we know the rest of the story. But to your point,

1951
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 4: that was my The first thing when I read this headline,

1952
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 4: the first thought I had before I read into the

1953
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 4: story was, man, Dana just misses all the time and

1954
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 4: has succeeded in spite of himself a lot, which is

1955
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 4: a great skill to have. I I mean, I'm still

1956
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 4: employed and mostly I'm shit at my job. So way

1957
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 4: to go, Dana, good work.

1958
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: And then we got a couple more here very quickly.

1959
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 1: Let's throw this up from Colby Covington. In the future,

1960
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: you won't see me involved in politics. Loyalty is never rewarded.

1961
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: There's a million different angles from this one, but he

1962
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: is basically what he has done Jed is declare that

1963
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 1: the I'm going to be the living embodiment of a Margatrol.

1964
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 1: Like he's just dropping that whole gimmick. I'm not saying

1965
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: he like all all of a sudden now he's like,

1966
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, AOC's number one booster, but he's not doing

1967
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: that gimmick as like a way to attract attention anymore.

1968
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 1: Your biggest takeaway from that is.

1969
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 4: This is hilarious, Like it is, you know, outside of

1970
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 4: it being just an on the nose metaphor for all

1971
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 4: of this, of like, I really like this for my

1972
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 4: own personal gain, but the moment I don't get the

1973
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 4: thing that I should have gotten aka fighting on the

1974
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 4: White House, fucking all the hell, I'm not just it's

1975
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 4: so spot on and I am I can't believe I'm

1976
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 4: gonna say this. I'm genuinely interested to see where Colby

1977
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 4: Covington goes like the character, because he's so like that

1978
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 4: is his brand is this? And so if he's moving away,

1979
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 4: does he try to like be a late career good

1980
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 4: guy Colby? Like, how does this? How does this work?

1981
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 4: I would like to see it. But this was deeply funny.

1982
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. He should become a Bernie bro and like

1983
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 1: really come full circle. And then, last, but not least,

1984
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Paul Hughes was scheduled to headline the Belfast event for PFL.

1985
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: Again PFL making a good call to do that in Belfast.

1986
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he is injured. He says, quote, I'm out of

1987
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: PFL Belfast. Did everything I possibly could. Surgery next week

1988
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: to fix the issue. I'm sorry to all my supporters.

1989
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely crushed. The car's gonna go ahead, and he mentions,

1990
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: you know some other Irish teammates who are gonna be

1991
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: on there. I'll be back as soon as humanly possible.

1992
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: The obstacle is the way I don't have much of

1993
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: a take there, Jed just you know it sucks for PFL. Well,

1994
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: but I think so far they put Van Steenis, they

1995
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: put him in Spain, Belfast, they had they have him,

1996
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: at least they tried to put him. Dalton Ross, I

1997
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: think is from the Pittsburgh area, so they've got him

1998
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: on this card. Like they're trying to do a more.

1999
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 1: They're trying to make a better effort at marrying what's

2000
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: on that card with the geographic location in which it

2001
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: takes place. And I feel like that's a lost art

2002
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: in mma, especially relative to boxing. But unfortunate just the same, I.

2003
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 4: Think this is the best thing the PFL is doing

2004
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,759
Speaker 4: right now. It's very unfortunate what has occurred with Paul Hughes,

2005
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 4: and that's sort of the downside to do something like

2006
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 4: this right you are putting a lot of eggs in

2007
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 4: one fighter basket and if this happens like that card.

2008
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 4: I comped it yesterday. We talked about this on a

2009
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 4: btail and I was like, that card is just a

2010
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 4: menu card now, like no one's going to care. It's

2011
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 4: not It doesn't really have any juice, Whereas with Paul

2012
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 4: Hughes it felt like, oh that's yeah, we're PFL Belfast now,

2013
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 4: this is just like a regional PFL card. And that's okay,

2014
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 4: but it stings. But you still credit DFL for trying

2015
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 4: this because like the UFC took step a to break

2016
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 4: in Ohio once, you know, like they don't do that,

2017
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 4: and so it's good that the PFL is trying to

2018
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 4: do things like this.

2019
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: All right, that is our top five and now it

2020
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 1: is the part of the show that Long Island Luke

2021
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 1: gets to drive my friend take it away.

2022
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 5: Let's go, guys. First up, we're gonna play everybody's favorite game.

2023
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:21,959
Speaker 5: It's time for rank that.

2024
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 4: Car that card. It sucks, all right.

2025
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 5: First up, LT is the underdog with the best chance

2026
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,919
Speaker 5: of winning. Joe Pifer, Alexa Grosso or Kyle Nelson.

2027
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:45,759
Speaker 1: Kyle Nelson won ye Piper two, Grosso three.

2028
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 5: Oh Jed.

2029
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 4: I mean Kyle Nelson's definitely one for sure. That's not good.

2030
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:54,839
Speaker 5: He's just reckless.

2031
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, just survives four minutes and you're going to win

2032
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 4: the fight. Pier Pifer two. Just because I'm you know what,

2033
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 4: let's be different, I'll say Grosso two Pi for three.

2034
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 4: I really just think is he's gonna show out. I'm

2035
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 4: probably gonna look real stupid, but I think is he's

2036
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 4: gonna win this fight. So I'll go easy, I'll go

2037
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 4: piper Last.

2038
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 5: I hope you're right, and I also think Grosso has

2039
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 5: a better chance of winning than Joe Pifer. I feel

2040
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 5: like although the odds would tell you otherwise, all right, Jed,

2041
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 5: Who's most likely to win by finish lake On, Douglas,

2042
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 5: Michael Kisa or Nova host Sterling.

2043
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,560
Speaker 4: Kisa is obviously number one, though if you listen to

2044
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 4: No Bets Barred this Week or bto Yesterday, Michael Kisa

2045
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 4: by Ko that is my favorite bet of the whole year.

2046
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 4: Let's go baby.

2047
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 5: Just a donation. What is the odds? What are the odds?

2048
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 4: I don't know what they are currently At the time

2049
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 4: when I got it, it was plus thirteen hundred. Because

2050
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 4: he has never t kot anyone in his professional That's.

2051
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 5: Why I'm saying it's a donation. DraftKings right now has

2052
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 5: Michael Kissa by Ko at plus eight hundred Long Island.

2053
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 4: That's where you're wrong. It's not a donation because this

2054
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 4: is last fight. Do you think that in fifteen years

2055
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 4: Michael Keyson wants to tell his kids I wasn't man

2056
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 4: enough to knock somebody out as a professional fighter. He

2057
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 4: doesn't want to look his son in the eye and

2058
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 4: say that he's going to knock out Nico Price, who

2059
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 4: got knocked out like fifty days ago.

2060
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 5: Just word it differently. I mean, no, I fight talk

2061
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 5: of the distance. So I'm rooting for you too.

2062
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2063
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 4: Case is clearly the most likely to finish Larry and

2064
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 4: Douglas next now, but Sterling doesn't finish people. Is very sad.

2065
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 4: But that's just the reality. So that's the order.

2066
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 5: But he is fighting a guy who gets finished Bruno Lopez.

2067
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 5: So LT, you got any different order, I'll go in

2068
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 5: the order you see.

2069
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: Douglas kiss Sterling.

2070
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 5: Okay, I think that's fair, all right? ELTI uh, whose

2071
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 5: stock will drop the most with the loss on Saturday,

2072
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 5: Chase Hooper, Isy or Alexa Grosso.

2073
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,520
Speaker 4: Man, that's interesting.

2074
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 5: Because Chase Hooper, you know, not necessarily the high stock,

2075
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 5: but he's taking on a guy he should be. Is

2076
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 5: he obviously taking on you guys said arguably.

2077
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 1: Answer, it's probably is he because this week, as we

2078
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: talked about, represents if you were to lose to Pyford,

2079
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 1: to be the worst guy I ever lost to.

2080
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 5: How about Alexa Grosso though, coming from winning the belt

2081
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 5: to now winless? If she loses in three str.

2082
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,759
Speaker 1: True still, but she's still fighting like a top contender,

2083
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 1: So I'll go Isy. I'm actually gonna go Hooper second

2084
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: because I feel like that might actually really damage how

2085
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 1: he's perceived. And then I'll go Grosso third. But I

2086
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: think you could swap those last two.

2087
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I think you make an argument for any of it, honestly,

2088
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna agree with Izzy because I think if

2089
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 4: he loses, it will just be like came in retire

2090
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 4: and neither of the other two will be in that situation.

2091
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 4: I'll agree, though, I'll say Hooper second because I think

2092
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 4: Grosso there's just the baked in story of well, she

2093
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 4: lost to the three of the four best women, that's

2094
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 4: not that bad, Whereas Hooper it would be damaging. So

2095
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 4: I'll agree with Luke all right.

2096
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 5: Jed who's most likely to avoid a second straight loss,

2097
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 5: Adrian Yanyez, Julian Arosa or Martine Tibora man Uh.

2098
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 4: I like I can see any of them winning, right,

2099
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,719
Speaker 4: I don't think that's necessarily true, but I'll go Yanyez.

2100
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna beat Ricky Simone. I mean, I

2101
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 4: don't think JUICYJ is gonna beat Larry and Douglas, and

2102
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 4: since Luke said he's the most likely to get a finish,

2103
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 4: I'll put Julian Rosa last, and I'll do Marcine Tibora

2104
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 4: because like that fight can just get really ugly and heavyweighty,

2105
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 4: real fast, and he can sort of win two of

2106
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 4: the three rounds.

2107
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 5: I'll see you got any different m hmm.

2108
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: I'll go Tybora one.

2109
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 5: I'll go in reverse order.

2110
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: I'll go Tybora Erosa Yanez.

2111
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 4: Luke, how excited are you to watch Marcine Tabora tyrrell

2112
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 4: fortune in the middle of.

2113
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 5: Party and he's thriving. He just got knocked out by Delia.

2114
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 5: He was on like a three fight win streak before

2115
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 5: I cut him. Now I'm taking him as a dog.

2116
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 5: By the way, Let's go Tabora h ELTI which tough

2117
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 5: contestant or coach has the biggest chance of losing on Saturday,

2118
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 5: Alexa Grosso, Michael Kiessa or Julian Arosa.

2119
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:38,719
Speaker 1: I'll say Grosso one, uh, Erosa two, Kiosa three. Funk

2120
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 1: would the odds.

2121
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 4: Say, I'm gonna just go on the odds and go

2122
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 4: Aroso Grosso.

2123
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of agree with the odds. Jed who's

2124
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 5: most likely to challenge for UFC belt one day Alexia Tainara,

2125
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 5: Mansur Abdula Malik or Navajos Sterling.

2126
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 4: Tinara is probably the most Sterling. Interestingly, this is in

2127
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 4: the reverse order of how much I like them as

2128
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 4: fighters functionally. But Tyinara the weight class is bad and

2129
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 4: she's pretty decent. Sterling the weight class atrocious. He probably

2130
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 4: gets there, and then Mensor Abdomlik will be last, even

2131
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 4: though I like him the most of the three of these.

2132
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: LT Man sore number one Tara to Sterling three.

2133
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 5: Okay, fair enough. Lt Who's got the most intimidating nickname? Again?

2134
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 5: Just go buy the nickname gun Slinger, t Rex or

2135
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 5: body bags, like you gotta fight gun slinger today or

2136
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 5: you gotta fight t Rex later.

2137
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: I'll go in the order you have it, because I've

2138
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: known a lot of t rexes. Now this is different.

2139
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 1: This is t dot w Rex and I knew a

2140
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 1: guy named Terry t Rex Cohen. I mean, I've known

2141
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes who have the t Rex in

2142
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,759
Speaker 1: their name. But I do like the twist that Terrence

2143
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 1: McKinney uses on it, so I think it deserves some credit.

2144
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: But I like gunslinger. It sounds fucking dope. The word

2145
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: gun is cool, you know, it's just kind of cool.

2146
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 1: And body bags with a Z just tells me that

2147
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: we're not reading books at this point in our lives anymore.

2148
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 5: Dude, but body all right, well, I'll let you go

2149
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 5: first before I make my point, Jed, what is your order?

2150
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 4: I agree for similar fact, gunslinger is a cool word.

2151
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 4: This is a really cool word.

2152
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Great fucking words.

2153
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 5: Not intimidated by body bags because I and he's going

2154
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 5: to carry you home in a fucking body bag with

2155
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 5: a Z.

2156
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: Dude, anytime someone takes a word and remixes it with

2157
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: the letter Z, unless they're easy, they're fucking stupid.

2158
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 5: I always imagine giveaway. I always imagine it like a

2159
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 5: Kimbo backyard brawl and I'm sitting there, I'm shadow boxing,

2160
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 5: I'm getting ready, and they're like, yo, long Island, You're

2161
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 5: fighting body bags, and then I just have like two

2162
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 5: minutes to like visualize who the fuck.

2163
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're not fighting body bags. You're fighting

2164
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: body bags with a Z.

2165
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 4: Body bags. Yeah, yeah, I'd like on the other side,

2166
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 4: if you're just doing it on what you hear like,

2167
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,560
Speaker 4: I don't know have you ever seen Jurassic Park, Like

2168
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 4: TX is the most Yeah that is still the worst

2169
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 4: of those three.

2170
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,839
Speaker 5: Ye, I don't know, uh Jed, who's the most entertaining

2171
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 5: fighter on the card? Ignaci Obaha, Mundays, Izzy or Terrence McKinney.

2172
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 4: Pure entertainment, it's Terence McKinney. He's fought twenty five times

2173
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 4: and he's never been to the judges. So Terrence McKinney

2174
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 4: is number one. If you're just like dipshit fun Uh

2175
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 4: Bajamonde's is number two. I'm this is I'm going on

2176
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 4: dipshit fun is He's obviously the most entertaining if you're

2177
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 4: like Luke and you only want the highest, most elevated

2178
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 4: of combat sports. But I like big dumbozzos too, So

2179
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 4: give me McKinny Bahamond's ognia elt.

2180
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: There are ways to measure this, but like you know,

2181
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: McKinney's never had the entertaining moment that Izzy had in

2182
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: his win over Poeton, right, Like you know, there's ways

2183
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: to kind of look at this. I'd say on a

2184
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 1: per minute basis, it's definitely Terence McKinney. Hell yeah, right,

2185
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean pound for pound per minute basis.

2186
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 5: I would say, dude, next to Justin Gatchee, they're like

2187
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 5: one A one be most exciting.

2188
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: She's shot out of a fucking cannon. He's the evil

2189
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: Canievel of MMA, Like I truly believe that. So he's

2190
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 1: got to be one, And yeah, I think is he?

2191
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean bab Mondez is like the boring part of

2192
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 1: him has not been nearly as boring as the boring

2193
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: part of Izzy is. He's been more boring in that regard,

2194
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: but the entertaining parts of Izzy have been way fucking better.

2195
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with that.

2196
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 5: That's fair, all right. I'll see who have more UFC

2197
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:48,560
Speaker 5: fights after this card Marchine, Tybora, Nico Price, or Israel Atasania.

2198
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,719
Speaker 1: Probably Tybora, to be honest with you, he's.

2199
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 5: Forty plus and if he loses on Saturday, that's two

2200
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 5: in a row. And if he gets finished to finishes.

2201
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: In d They've got motherfuckers on his roster who've lost

2202
01:49:58,880 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: five or six in a row.

2203
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 5: I don't yeah, well Nico being one of them, So

2204
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 5: you think Nico last?

2205
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go Tybora? Is he Nico last? Yeah?

2206
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:10,759
Speaker 4: I just want to point out the set like sheer

2207
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 4: sadness in Luke's voice what he said, probably time, dude.

2208
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: I just I can't with heavyweight. It's so fucking boring.

2209
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: It's so fucking boring, you.

2210
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 5: Know, Jed, what's your order?

2211
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 4: Oh, Luke's got it right. This would be one or

2212
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 4: two loss in a row. It's heavyweight. He'll stay forever. Uh.

2213
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 4: I think Nico gets his walking papers with the loss,

2214
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 4: which again they should just keep him on ice until

2215
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 4: the next you know, popular guy retires, but I think

2216
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,759
Speaker 4: is he will fight again, win loser draw this weekend.

2217
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 4: So Luke had the right or all.

2218
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 5: Right, and Lance but not least, Which fighter from Washington

2219
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 5: is most likely to win? Terence McKinney, Chase Hooper or

2220
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 5: Michael Kiasa.

2221
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 4: Also isn't Lance Gibson from Washington too?

2222
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 5: He's from Canada, I believe, but fought in Washington a bunch. Also,

2223
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 5: he's fighting Chase Hooper, and I'm gonna give Chase we

2224
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 5: were more Washington cred.

2225
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 4: Lance Gibson was born in Seattle.

2226
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 5: All right, but he reps Canada, so he grew like

2227
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 5: Chase has just been in Washington the whole time. You know,

2228
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 5: I'll give him more.

2229
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: His dad relocated. I think to Canada. That's why.

2230
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because he married who was a mm A fighter.

2231
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 5: Shout out, uh, Jed.

2232
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 4: What's your order though, Hooper? Oh no, you just go

2233
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 4: the odds. Kisa Hooper McKinney.

2234
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 5: All right, lt mm hmm.

2235
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 1: The contemplation is real. I'll go in reverse order. Kissa McKinney.

2236
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:48,680
Speaker 5: All right. So Sam as daid, all right, guys, that

2237
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 5: was ranked that card. Hope you enjoyed it. Now we

2238
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 5: move on to one. Everyone enjoyed last week, so we're

2239
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 5: gonna do it again. We always played when Jed's here,

2240
01:51:55,520 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 5: it's time for a better call, y'all. A number you

2241
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 5: have dialed A right, LT gavel you are up, so

2242
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 5: uh in honor of BC, we got some regional mma

2243
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 5: where anything can happen. Did you guys see this at

2244
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 5: a PFC Anthony Pettis Fighting Championship. Ben the Bain was

2245
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 5: on the call this zero to three guy Diantrey Butts, Yes,

2246
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 5: b U t t S won by mother's milk submission

2247
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 5: or some mother choke, whatever you want to call it,

2248
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 5: which is definitely the funniest way a fat guy named

2249
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 5: Butts can win a fight. What got me think, in LT,

2250
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 5: who would you call out for an mma about in

2251
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:45,839
Speaker 5: which the winner can only win by mother's milk. Mike Coppinger,

2252
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 5: Jake Paul or Dana White.

2253
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: I have to beat them or the person fighting them

2254
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 1: has to beat them. You have to beat them, but

2255
01:52:58,680 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 1: also maybe you lose.

2256
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 5: I mean, who are you giving yourself the best chance

2257
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 5: to beat by mother's milk, Cop Paul or Dana White?

2258
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 5: You know, maybe it would need to have.

2259
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 1: It would need to have some utility for me and

2260
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: this integrity of combat sports, so it has to be

2261
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: Jake Paul.

2262
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm stunned. I thought you were just going to

2263
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 4: be like roll the clip of me ruining Mike Coppinger's

2264
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 4: entire No.

2265
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: I've I mean, I mean, what is there left to

2266
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: say about that situation? I'm supposed you'd just be easier

2267
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 1: to do. Jake Paul is like, yeah, but I mean,

2268
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: what's what's the point there, Like Jake Paul getting whooped

2269
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: up on, especially by mother's milk submission, this would this

2270
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: would this would be very degrading, and I think he

2271
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 1: needs that.

2272
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 5: I think Dana would be also just as like good

2273
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 5: for for everyone. He's old, Yeah, but it was he's

2274
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:55,679
Speaker 5: sight to see like you beating him. Don't tell Dana

2275
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 5: that he's going to be boxing that he heard soon.

2276
01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 5: That's true.

2277
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:00,959
Speaker 1: He has to go train that fight, motherfucker.

2278
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 5: We will get to that. We will get to that. Jed, Guys,

2279
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 5: we talked about it earlier. Are your guy's favorite card

2280
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 5: of the year, maybe favorite card.

2281
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 1: In the history?

2282
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 5: Said? Nobody said that, but Jed, the Rousy Corono card

2283
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 5: has your casual friends talking before it happens. They want

2284
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 5: to get to know the sport a little better and

2285
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 5: get more into it, so they ask you to recommend

2286
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 5: to fight. Unfortunately, the new paramount plus you know UFC

2287
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 5: library isn't really all up to date, still doesn't have

2288
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 5: all the fights you mistakenly canceled your fight Pass subscription,

2289
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 5: so there's only three fights you can choose from. Which

2290
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 5: fight are you calling up on the TV to get

2291
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 5: your casual friends more into mixed martial arts? Rosdama Unis

2292
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 5: versus Carla Sparza to No, Michael Venim page for Sam Patterson,

2293
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 5: I hate you? Or Francis and Ganu verus Derek Lewis.

2294
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 4: Oh no, there's not a way that any of those

2295
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 4: fights get people to want to keep watching. I think

2296
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 4: I think the answer, I'm gonna say Francis Derek and

2297
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 4: it's bad, but they're Rose Carla. I think might actually

2298
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 4: be the worst fight of all time.

2299
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 5: Rose Carla. I looked at these all these stats recently

2300
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 5: and because especially because I was five rounds, they had

2301
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 5: the most output of these three fights.

2302
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, but that's over five rounds, which is like,

2303
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 4: I mean, they can watch twenty five minutes of that ship.

2304
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 4: They would meet me with bars of soap like.

2305
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: That was that was That was a sparring session straight up.

2306
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 1: There were shadow boxing each other was fucking insane.

2307
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 5: MVB. Patterson had more significant strikes than Anghana Lewis, So

2308
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 5: maybe maybe go that at least within.

2309
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 4: Ghana and Lewis, you can be like, you see how

2310
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 4: big they are, maybe one of them will hit the

2311
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 4: other and it will work. Where the MVP Patterson was

2312
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 4: just like nothing, nothing matters. What are we doing here?

2313
01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 5: But I think if you're not into MMA and you

2314
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 5: see a hea you wait fight where no one does anything,

2315
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 5: You're like, aren't they supposed to hit each other and

2316
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 5: go down? Like what?

2317
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Just there's there's no good answer. You picked three black holes,

2318
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 1: you know which one is less black, Holy.

2319
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 4: Just you can't pick rose call. It's twenty five minutes.

2320
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 4: You can't do that.

2321
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree that that's the worst call. For sure,

2322
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: that's the worst call.

2323
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're saying MVP Patterson, or we're saying in

2324
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 5: Gona Luis.

2325
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking in Gona Lewis. But there's you know,

2326
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 4: that's shit and Turret Sandwich Man. There's no good answer,

2327
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 4: all right, Eltu.

2328
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 5: The Afroman trial resurface this week with him coming out

2329
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 5: victorious against the Adams County Sheriff's Office in their defamation suit,

2330
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 5: which got me thinking all the things you've said through

2331
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 5: the years, lt about all the different people. I mean,

2332
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 5: God knows what's out there. Who knows who would sue

2333
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 5: you for a defamation case? Right like it could happen,

2334
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 5: you never know. So who would you call to defend

2335
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 5: you in a defamation case? John Jones? You wanna young

2336
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 5: j Chuck or a completely inebriated Jed Michue, a completely

2337
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 5: inebriated Jed Michue? Really yeah, because he's an actual lawyer,

2338
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 5: or because you trust him the most out of all

2339
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 5: those people.

2340
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: Or because the other two you're you're gonna lose, right,

2341
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean you're I mean, you're gonna lose everything.

2342
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 5: I think you want to could get you a winning case, Dude,

2343
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 5: I don't know I can.

2344
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm generally unsure if she can, like how well she

2345
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: can read much less, you know, win a case for me. Jed,

2346
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 1: even inebriated, could probably utter a few words about like

2347
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: different things. I could eventually plug into AI to come

2348
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: up with some kind of a defense using claude or something. Right,

2349
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: he could at least leave crumbs to follow. I mean,

2350
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 1: this would also not be a great way to go,

2351
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 1: but I would take a inebriated Jed over basically any

2352
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: of the names you mentioned.

2353
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 5: I guess that's a fair I was trying to make

2354
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 5: Jed not pickable by making him an abriated, But I

2355
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 5: guess I get better.

2356
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 4: When I'm drunk.

2357
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 5: I mean you can.

2358
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could be like he's drinking and he's driving

2359
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: and he's blindfolded, and I'd be like, yes, I'm still

2360
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 1: going with Jed. I mean, I trust his judgment more

2361
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: than those other two.

2362
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 4: There are just somethings in life you're better at when

2363
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 4: you're drunk, and this is I'd about it as one

2364
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 4: of them all right, Jed, well, you recently tweeted this video.

2365
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 5: In fact, you tweeted it at Luke asking him about it.

2366
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 5: But it's Yuri Prahasca for the audio listeners, deadlifting five

2367
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty one pounds, a feat that most of

2368
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 5: us will likely never accomplish in our lifetime.

2369
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 1: It's really it's really a block poll and not a deadlift.

2370
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 5: But okay, all right, well let's you know, that's what

2371
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 5: the caption said. I'm not a wait guy, you know whatever. Anyways, Uh,

2372
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 5: no one will have accomplish that in our lives, most

2373
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:48,839
Speaker 5: likely unless we had a good spotter.

2374
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 1: I've lifted more than that on the deadlift. Just to

2375
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: be very clear, what lift max?

2376
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 4: Lude? Huh, what's your deadlift max?

2377
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 1: On the trap bar like that? I've done five ninety

2378
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 1: five for three on stiff bar, I've gone six hundred

2379
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: and five.

2380
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 5: Lucky for you, Luke, this question isn't for you.

2381
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 1: It's for Jed.

2382
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 5: Jed, you'll likely never lift that amount in your lifetime.

2383
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 5: No offense, hopefully. Uh So, let's just say you needed

2384
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 5: a spotter to help you lift, give you a little

2385
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 5: extra lift on that bar, make it look good like.

2386
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 1: You're doing it not being serious about the six o five.

2387
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 5: By the way, who are you calling Jed to be

2388
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 5: your spotter? AKA? Who will give you the best chance

2389
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 5: to help you lift some of that weight? Option one?

2390
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 5: Anderson Silva after the second Wideman fight, Option two, Wideman

2391
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 5: after the Uriah Hall fight. Option three. Connor McGregor after

2392
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 5: the third Pourier fight.

2393
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 4: Jesus, so all of them have one leg essentially, Yeah,

2394
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 4: I mean, no one's gonna spot me, which is fine.

2395
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 4: It's you're spotting on a deadlift. That's what they can.

2396
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 4: They are gonna help me deadlift anyway.

2397
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 5: Uh. For the rioting on a deadlift is more like again,

2398
01:59:58,560 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 5: it was to help you lift the bar.

2399
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 1: It was just because they can.

2400
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, none of them are useful. I do just want

2401
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 4: it for the record, My deadlift PR is three eighty

2402
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:16,520
Speaker 4: so not remotely close to this. Uh, I wouldn't succeed,

2403
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 4: But give me Connor because I would be very very

2404
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:22,960
Speaker 4: upset listening to him talk, and so maybe that gives

2405
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 4: you a little extra anchor juice.

2406
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 5: Fair enough. Elt Eddie Hearn recently posted this video of

2407
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 5: him on a speedbag, and he eventually calls out Dana

2408
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 5: White at the end. Of it now furthering their beef.

2409
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 5: But which venue could hold such an historic event of

2410
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 5: two washed billionaires who have never fought professionally. So lt

2411
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 5: which venue are you calling to book Dana White versus

2412
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 5: Eddie Hearn, the Meta Apex, the Avoneer Center in Moncton, Canada,

2413
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 5: or the Tachi Palace in Lamore, California.

2414
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 1: You gotta go Tachi Palace. First of all, let me

2415
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: say this shout outs to rest in peace to the

2416
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 1: great Jordan Breen. Jordan Breen for folks who don't remember him,

2417
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: fucking loved Tachi Palace and used to commentate Tachi Palace

2418
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 1: fights with TJ. DeSantis along with some other folks. And

2419
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 1: I just have to say, I think it is fucking

2420
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 1: a travesty that what Tachi Palace used to offer on

2421
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: the regional side has been all but forgotten and in fact,

2422
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 1: our own Brian Campbell turning them into a punchline by

2423
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: because that Dana White was during the you know, I've

2424
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 1: every recalls during the pandemic was like, Oh, we're gonna

2425
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 1: go to TOUCHI Palace and then they never fucking went.

2426
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 1: Tachi Palace is great. I've heard nothing and I cannot

2427
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 1: be more sincere. I've heard nothing but good things about

2428
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: people on the regional side of MA have had to

2429
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 1: say about Tachi Palace. So the answer, motherfucker, is Tachi Palace.

2430
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 5: All right, all right, I'll give it to you. Jed

2431
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 5: matt Ravola recently backed up Daniel Cormier's claims that UFC

2432
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 5: fighters get royalties for the UFC video game, but for

2433
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 5: Vola's check was only for two hundred and fifty dollars.

2434
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 5: Not sure. They didn't give him any stats on how

2435
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 5: much he got played, you know whatever. But let's assume, Jed,

2436
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:18,080
Speaker 5: that you are in the video game and you need

2437
02:02:18,200 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 5: some extra cash. Who are you calling to play as

2438
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 5: your character as much as possible in their spare time

2439
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 5: to help up that revenue. Demetrius Johnson, Sean O'Malley or

2440
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 5: Curtis Blades. These are all known gamer fighters, so you know,

2441
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 5: you know, they got plenty of time for it.

2442
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta go Demetrius Johnson because he like

2443
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 4: does a lot of streaming with games. And it would

2444
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 4: be poetic because like a year ago dj came out

2445
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 4: and was like, here's how much money I got in royalties,

2446
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 4: and it was like two grand from being like in

2447
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 4: the UFC game or whatever, was not a significant amount

2448
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 4: of money. And so if I could get DJ to

2449
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 4: spur me to make more money off UFC six or

2450
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 4: whatever than him, that would just be funny.

2451
02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 5: See, I feel like you gotta go like to me,

2452
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 5: Demitrius Johnson's too busy. He's got his YouTube channel, he's

2453
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 5: doing interviews, concert He's got too much going on. He

2454
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 5: doesn't have that much. He does those streams you mentioned, Jed,

2455
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 5: but how much is he just playing in his own

2456
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 5: spare time? I don't know. Sean O'Malley rubs me as

2457
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 5: someone like train go play video games, Train Go play

2458
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 5: video games. And maybe I'm wrong. He's got kids now,

2459
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 5: maybe it's different. But and then like Curtis Blades has

2460
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 5: like newly launched his like twitch, so he's been like

2461
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 5: extra playing. So like I'm trying to think of, like

2462
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:35,760
Speaker 5: who's gonna put in the most hours for you? I

2463
02:03:35,800 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 5: don't know if Demetrius is the guy.

2464
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 4: I standing by it.

2465
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like his commitment, he'll just make other

2466
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 1: things suffer in his life to do that job correctly,

2467
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

2468
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 4: Because Curtis Blades is still like theoretically fighting. I'm not

2469
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 4: even theoretically he's booked to fight, Like, yeah.

2470
02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, all right. Lt. Deontay Wilder's Taylor

2471
02:03:57,400 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 5: recently revealed that he measures the Deontay Wilder statue rather

2472
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 5: than Deontay himself. Do you think he makes out with

2473
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 5: it like Deontay does too? Anyways, picture scenario where you

2474
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,960
Speaker 5: finally get that dream job Luke at joseph a Bank

2475
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 5: and you get paid to take dumps. Now you're a

2476
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 5: tailor and your famous client is too busy to get measured,

2477
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 5: so you have to resort to their statue. So ELTI,

2478
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 5: who are you calling to be your famous client? George Saint, Pierre,

2479
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 5: Connor McGregor or on lun Song.

2480
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:37,760
Speaker 1: So none of these would work and the clothes wouldn't fit.

2481
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,960
Speaker 5: However, Oh I forgot to mention George every time you're

2482
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:45,680
Speaker 5: getting near the crotch area, says, oh you intoxicated to you, so,

2483
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 5: like it's really annoying for you to do it, because

2484
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 5: his is clearly the most set up for like being

2485
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 5: able to tailor a suit towards.

2486
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're gonna be like, are you impressed with

2487
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 4: my performance?

2488
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

2489
02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 5: That's true?

2490
02:04:56,720 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, I have. I've met and talked to

2491
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:05,840
Speaker 1: Ong in public. He's much bigger than he looks in person.

2492
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's much bigger in person than he looks

2493
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 1: on camera. And I've I've obviously, I've seen Connor in person,

2494
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:15,600
Speaker 1: and I've seen Georgi in person numerous times. The one

2495
02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: that would be the closest, just in terms of pure

2496
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 1: size off season anyway, would be On Ong has a

2497
02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 1: big ass head like mine.

2498
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,839
Speaker 5: He's got you know, it's built in on the shoulders

2499
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 5: though you would never get the shoulders right.

2500
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 1: A credible tailor would be able to work with that.

2501
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying what I'm.

2502
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 4: Saying, He's bigger. Ang's easily the correct choice.

2503
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, in person, it's the only one that would even

2504
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 1: make sense.

2505
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 5: What about the McGregor one man? You could get all

2506
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 5: up in that like cave structure they got, like really

2507
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 5: like it looks very detailed too. I feel like you

2508
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 5: could actually get.

2509
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 1: The best I feel weird wearing a suit that was like, yeah, no,

2510
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: Connor sucks, fuck him.

2511
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 5: You'd have to pose in it like in that noo

2512
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 5: would sick?

2513
02:05:57,920 --> 02:05:59,480
Speaker 1: Connor sucks? All right?

2514
02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 5: Uh, who do we got next? Jed, RAF we didn't

2515
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 5: talk about this in our hits and misses continues to

2516
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,839
Speaker 5: make strides. They just signed Gable Steveson against a TBD

2517
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 5: opponent at the end of May. And unlike the PFL, Jed,

2518
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 5: you even brought it up this episode. Funny enough, how

2519
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 5: you want to be the master of fun or whatever

2520
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 5: it's called, the minister of what's it called, Jed.

2521
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 4: I don't I think minister is the term I previously abused.

2522
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, either way, unlike PFL, RIF has seen your resume

2523
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 5: and they want to hire you as their new matchmaker.

2524
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 5: So what is the best matchup you can make? Who

2525
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 5: are you calling to be Gable's opponent in his first

2526
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:47,720
Speaker 5: RAF headliner brock Lesner, John Jones or Wyatt Hendrickson.

2527
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:51,360
Speaker 4: O brock Lesner because they're gonna do why hindredcing. But

2528
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 4: that's not the one you do first, right, you build

2529
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 4: to that why I think is wrestling tomorrow. I assume

2530
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 4: when you build to that later you do Brock because

2531
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Speaker 4: Gable is basically Brock two point zero. You know, he

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Speaker 4: was very accomplished and more accomplished in wrestling, tried to

2533
02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:12,920
Speaker 4: play football, tried to do pro wrestling, now he's doing

2534
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Speaker 4: MMA and others, so you do Brock also. That just

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02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:19,560
Speaker 4: boosts the star profile the most. And then you go

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Speaker 4: to the rematch of the NCAA Championships with Rob White Indrickson.

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Speaker 5: You don't think the John Jones the coach versus prodigy

2538
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 5: kind of vibe is the thing.

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Speaker 4: To paraphrase, Luke, John Jones sucks.

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Speaker 5: No, all right, LT, I'm curious of your thoughts on

2541
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 5: this because it was a more serious one.

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Speaker 1: Who I couldn't agree more with, Jed. You gotta go

2543
02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 1: brock Lesner first. That's the thing you do. First, you

2544
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 1: build up, You build him up, he becomes big, and

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02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 1: it makes the rematch fucking huge. Yeah, definitely that way.

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Speaker 5: All right all right, LT. Last one for you, uh

2547
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:55,120
Speaker 5: Ilia signed with Richard Milli and you called the promo.

2548
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:57,120
Speaker 5: You could see it right there, the best sizzle reel

2549
02:07:57,200 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 5: a fighter made by a commercial non fight entity that

2550
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 5: you've ever seen, which got me thinking what other companies

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02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 5: might do in this situation. So picture this, LT. You

2552
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 5: are the head of creative at McDonald's. Which fighter are

2553
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 5: you calling to be the lead in a McDonald's promo?

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02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 5: And they're selling a product to so McKenzie dern selling

2555
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,200
Speaker 5: the big Mac, you know, the sesame seed.

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02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 1: Buns, the big Mackenzie.

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02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 5: Exactly Tony Ferguson selling McNuggets when he was like calling

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02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 5: out McGregor or Connor McGregor selling coke products or.

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Speaker 1: So oh Jesus Christ, the answer is unfortunately, probably Connor

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02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 1: because that just works too well. So if I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do a bit of a rank that card kind of answer,

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Speaker 1: I think the answer would definitely be Connor. Unfortunate. I

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Speaker 1: hate to say it, but I do think it's true. Second,

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Speaker 1: I would go McKenzie. I go that mackenzie burger right,

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02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 1: a happy smile, and you know, horny MMA fans would

2566
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 1: just want to say, like turn around to eat it. Yeah,

2567
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 1: exactly totally, and then you know works yeah, And honestly,

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02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 1: you could make them look like the Hamburgler or some ship.

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02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,280
Speaker 1: But then putting Tony Ferguson as the McNugget cellar, it

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Speaker 1: was like the last choice.

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Speaker 5: I'm imagining Tony though, Like ready, like someone's like order

2572
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 5: number or whatever, and Tony like hijackson mic and he's like,

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02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:30,800
Speaker 5: you know, McNuggets, where are you at? And he's like

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02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 5: behind the register with the mcmarket, Like, but you.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't lead with that, you know, that's a fun little addition.

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02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:39,200
Speaker 4: That one. That's a deeper cut for mm A people.

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02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:41,880
Speaker 4: But like if you did McKenzie give her those old

2578
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:49,960
Speaker 4: what is it Hardy's Burger commercials do that and that's

2579
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 4: but the Connor one is the most fun by far.

2580
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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, all right, Jed, last one for you.

2581
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw this, but this

2582
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 5: guy went viral recently for single handedly taking out Look.

2583
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 1: Look the guy who just got kicked in the face.

2584
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 5: Watch him here takes out numerous different opponents in an audience,

2585
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 5: including effortlessly throwing a woman like five rows by the hair.

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02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: He beats up this guy.

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02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 5: Yep, Jesus dude, watch him take this girl.

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02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:19,320
Speaker 1: After this guy comes in the in the in the shirt,

2589
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna get smoked here in just a second. Watch

2590
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 1: this boom boom, watch him grab right now, watch him yep,

2591
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 1: frisbeat her get and then these guys are like, don't

2592
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 1: hit me. He's like, fuck, y'all gonna hit you anyway.

2593
02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:36,720
Speaker 5: Look at a terminator, bro so Jed, this guy needs

2594
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 5: to be stopped. You can only find one person to

2595
02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 5: do it. Who are you calling to put to attempt

2596
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 5: to put an end to this man's rain death sentence

2597
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:52,840
Speaker 5: wing to see or Mark Zuckerberg.

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02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:55,560
Speaker 1: To see if you want someone to win a fight.

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Speaker 4: I do not give the answer here though, I just

2600
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:01,400
Speaker 4: don't know death sentences that that.

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02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:04,440
Speaker 5: That sentence is like boys with wing see he's the

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02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 5: guy that he's a street beefs guy. He sucks.

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02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 4: Uh, the answer is Zuckerberg because if someone gets within

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02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:16,640
Speaker 4: ten feet of harming him, I assume security swarms him

2605
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 4: and shoot him with tasers.

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02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 5: So let's just assume he give I think he pulls

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02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:22,680
Speaker 5: guard or something.

2608
02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 4: Also like can grapple. And but he clip was wild, man,

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Speaker 4: I had not seen that before.

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Speaker 1: Dude, he tossed that girl like a fucking throw pillow.

2611
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 4: Especially because like early on in the clip, he looks

2612
02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:38,240
Speaker 4: like he sucks, like he's doing like slappy like this

2613
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 4: guy's kicks.

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Speaker 1: He had a first round, but he rallied big, really.

2615
02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 4: Rallied in a major way.

2616
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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: That was wild.

2618
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Speaker 5: Hell yeah, guys, that was better. Call y'all, hope you

2619
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 5: enjoyed it.

2620
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 1: While we should watch more street fights on this fucking

2621
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 1: stupid incorporate.

2622
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Speaker 5: Have you seen this ship with it.

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02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I kind of I want to watch

2624
02:11:55,720 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 1: more dumb ass street fights and just comm home because

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Speaker 1: they're fucking fun.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: While I'm here, fifteen minutes, I got the first ever

2628
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Speaker 5: rematch in prop quiz history, Jose Young's taking on Mike

2629
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Speaker 5: Bond twenty dollars on the Line Championship out. Tune in

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Speaker 5: for that UFC Seattle tomorrow at five. And I want

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. We are on socials everywhere very quickly.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, Brian Campbell, if you're gonna be watching

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Speaker 1: boxing at all on Saturday, and I know there's a

2639
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Speaker 1: lot of MMA, but if you're gonna watch any he'll

2640
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Speaker 1: be on the call, So check that out if you can. Jed,

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Speaker 1: your coverage plan for the weekend is uh.

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Speaker 4: Mmafinding dot com. We are gonna have our preview show.

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02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:49,080
Speaker 4: It says like we're supposed to be going in fifteen minutes,

2644
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 4: but wayans are going on, So we're going whenever wayns

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Speaker 4: are over, so probably close to two. Uh. We are

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Speaker 4: also covering ARIF seven. Mike Kech is on location in

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Speaker 4: Tampa for them. And then tomorrow, you know, so we've

2648
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Speaker 4: got that for tomorrow, We've got the UFC, we've got PFL.

2649
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Speaker 4: It's Autumnayfighting dot Com. We'll have a pre fight Q

2650
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Speaker 4: and a over on the YouTube channel. I'll be running that.

2651
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Speaker 4: We'll have a post show, you know, all the same stuff.

2652
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Speaker 4: I think I'm on submission radio this Sunday too, so

2653
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Speaker 4: you know all around.

2654
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Speaker 5: Oh right, Jed, I'll see you then.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, there you have it, Long Island. What do

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Speaker 1: you have for this weekend?

2657
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:27,600
Speaker 5: I got my UFC Seattle watch along tomorrow, five pm

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Speaker 5: Eastern full card tune in, be there, there you have it.

2659
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:32,160
Speaker 1: Of course you have his main card minute coming up

2660
02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 1: for me. I will definitely have either a post fight

2661
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 1: show or a watch along, but at a bare minimum,

2662
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Speaker 1: a post fight show for UFC Seattle, so you can

2663
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Speaker 1: check that out of YouTube dot com slash Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are done. Thank you all so much

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Speaker 1: for watching. I greatly appreciate it. See you guys Monday,

2666
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 1: we'll recap all of the action from the weekend for

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02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 1: JED for Long Island, I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: all on Monday and until next time, May all of

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Speaker 1: your gains be loyal.