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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of stories to get into this week. First, the shocking

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Speaker 1: news that came out of Tucson, Arizona this weekend that

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Speaker 1: Savannah Gunthries's mom is missing and it appears that the

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Speaker 1: crime a crime was committed. We'll get into the latest

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Speaker 1: with that. Then we'll talk about the devastating news that

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Speaker 1: beloved actress Catherine O'Hara died last week. You guys may

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Speaker 1: have heard a little story that millions of Epstein files

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Speaker 1: were dropped. Of course, it comes as no shock to

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Speaker 1: us that there were a lot of prominent figures in

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Speaker 1: the file, and we'll talk about one particular scumbag who

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Speaker 1: has a big presence in our field of medicine and health.

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Speaker 1: And then onto freak accidents, one involving a veterinarian who

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Speaker 1: died in his mobile vet office, and reports of a

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Speaker 1: really explosive case of a rectal foreign body. A few

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Speaker 1: years ago we reported on a very similar case. It

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Speaker 1: may be too similar in the grosser room, so we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that as well. In true crime news, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the dangers of the Facebook marketplace. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: get into some of your feedback questions and comments, all

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Speaker 1: that and more on today's episode. So Savannah had gone

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Speaker 1: through this is like crazy.

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Speaker 2: She has one of those last names. I keep doing

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Speaker 2: it too, and I don't know if it's the way

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Speaker 2: we talk in New Jersey, but I keep you yes

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Speaker 2: and there's no end your last whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I can't say pop up says, what's the difference?

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Speaker 1: You know who I'm talking about?

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Speaker 2: No, totally. So yesterday this news came out that her

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Speaker 2: eighty four year old mother was missing. So I want

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Speaker 2: to start off by saying that I didn't find this

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Speaker 2: so striking at first, because old people go missing sometimes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's literally a system in place called silver

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Speaker 2: alerts because sometimes they have cognitive issues and whatever. Right,

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Speaker 2: So at first I just kind of glazed over it.

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Speaker 2: Then I see that homicide investigators and the FBI are

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Speaker 2: eventually involved in this case because at this point they're

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Speaker 2: thinking she was abducted from her home in the middle

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that the fact that there's homicide

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Speaker 1: that there's even more evidence that they're letting us onto,

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Speaker 1: even if they thought that she was kidnapped, I don't

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Speaker 2: La Times was reporting as of this morning that there

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what more information we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: as far as that, but I mean, what seemingly is

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Speaker 2: what happened is that Savannah's sister got dinner with the

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Speaker 2: And I mean this is obviously like we live in

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Speaker 1: Really. I mean, a lot of people, including some of

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Speaker 2: Well exactly, I mean to your first point what you're

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Speaker 2: So there's somebody out there that hates everybody.

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Speaker 1: But is she like is she like the Katie Kirk

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Speaker 2: Actually pretty sure she replaced Katie Kiric, so.

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Speaker 1: I guess that they just I mean, anybody could take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it. It doesn't necessarily bother me that they're

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Speaker 2: they could have that information, they're just not releasing it

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Speaker 2: this up. It happened in Pima County or Pima County whatever,

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Speaker 2: saying the world's weirdest crimes occur. So it's just a

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just recently there a couple

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Speaker 1: It's the same area where she lived. It's like so

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we'll report back when we hear what happens.

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Speaker 1: Olympics now she flew out there. It's just something to

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Speaker 1: think about with people, like you would say, for example,

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Speaker 2: Well she might, we just don't really know all the

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Speaker 1: Of last year. It's a little sauce. All of it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're going to try to keep up

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Speaker 2: it's really sad. I mean, this is an old lady

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Speaker 1: This happened, So, momm, this is exactly what I thought

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Speaker 1: of when this case happened. Actually, So momm used to

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Speaker 1: inside of the body which help move fluid along to

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00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 1: kind of say like okay, you go over here, and

434
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: you go over here and develop, and then something's wrong

435
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: with those cilia and they just move in the wrong

436
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: direction and all of the organs form. They form perfectly fine,

437
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: it's just that they're completely opposite, so they they work great.

438
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: I have a case in the gross room because we

439
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: did this on our high profile death dissection this week

440
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: of a ninety six year old woman who it was

441
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: found in a cadaver like a cadaver lab of her.

442
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: She didn't even know she had it her whole life.

443
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: So and Catherine O'Hara was an adult with kids already,

444
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, had given birth, didn't know that she had it.

445
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: So it's so cool. There are some variations you can

446
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: get of it though, that cause defects in the heart,

447
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 1: Like if your heart is in the normal spot but

448
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: the organs are reversed, then sometimes those people have more

449
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: problems with it. But this likely did not contribute to

450
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: her death at all.

451
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: Didn't her husband make a joke when she was diagnosed

452
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: and was like, yeah, her head's on backwards. Yeah, you

453
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: like know, really your organs are all reversed. Yeah, I

454
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: think I I think it's just so cool, And I mean,

455
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: she's just so cool. I was saying, like, my favorite

456
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: movie that she ever did was, I mean, obviously from

457
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: like Beetlejuice and stuff is best in show. It's just

458
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: so funny, and her character in it is hilarious, Like

459
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: I mean when she's with Eugene Levy, like it's so good.

460
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: She has some of the most iconic roles of our time, right,

461
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: Like she's in Beatle Juice' Diliadets. You said she had

462
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: a name in Home Alone, which she was the mom.

463
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: I didn't what was her name? Oh, Kate? Did anyone

464
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: ever call her by.

465
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: Her Name'm pretty sure the husband called her Kate.

466
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: That's another weird thing too. So I was reading how

467
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: he had died years ago.

468
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: Right, same age, seventy one.

469
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: One, and like, in my mind, and I know that

470
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: you guys probably go through this too, that guy, especially

471
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: like he wasn't really in much after Home Alone right,

472
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: was he was.

473
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Like this major scumbag in the Sopranos, and that kind

474
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: of overrided the whole way I see him in.

475
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So I didn't watch the Soprano so I don't know,

476
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: but like in my mind, I'm like, oh, he's like

477
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: forty five were So when I see he died, I

478
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: was like, shit, he died. I didn't even know he died.

479
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: How'd he die? And I look it up. I don't

480
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: even know how he died because once I saw his

481
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: birth date was nineteen forty five, I was like, he's

482
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: literally like born the same ex that year as my dad,

483
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: And if he was still alive, he'd be eighty years

484
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: old right now. So I'm like, it's just funny, how

485
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: when you when you have a visualization of someone in

486
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: a movie and then you never see them again. It's

487
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: just weird to see them getting older, you know, Yeah, totally.

488
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: I Mean I felt extra like pit in my stomach

489
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: about it, because like I just watched this John Candy

490
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: documentary that was so good about his life and they

491
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: had worked together so early on, and then I kept

492
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: thinking about her and how tragic this all is and

493
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: how close her and John Candy were and then they

494
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: did Home Alone together. Of course, most recently, I loved

495
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: her in Shit's Creek. I know you didn't watch that show,

496
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: but her character is seriously like the funniest thing. I'm

497
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: gonna start watching. Can the kids watch that? Don't know?

498
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: I don't think really inappropriate thing?

499
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: I hate that I don't.

500
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: I'll rewatch it and let you know, because there's there's

501
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: like some references to like hand jobs, and so.

502
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: I feel like, is that's something that the kids would

503
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: even pick up on?

504
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I watched it years ago, So I

505
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: have to just go through and rewatch it. I want to, though,

506
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: because her character is truly if she didn't play that role,

507
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: that character would not have been nearly as good. She

508
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: is just so funny in it, and in the studio

509
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: she's so great. So like, I really wonder how they're

510
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do. I doubt they're gonna kill her off, right,

511
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: They'll probably just write her off or say she's doing

512
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: some project, which sucks because she really brought in a

513
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: really hilarious element to that show and was so good.

514
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: So I think she I agree with you what we

515
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: were saying in the grosser room because we covered this.

516
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: She is one of those rare actresses where everybody really

517
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: loves her, and there's not many disgruntled people about this,

518
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: so it's definitely a huge loss.

519
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to these Epstein files. Of course,

520
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: the information is still pouring out because there's three million

521
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: plus documents to review, but this one really like pissed

522
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: me off. So there's all this damning information coming out

523
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: about all these public figures, which I don't think is surprised,

524
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: and that's what's been basically happening the whole time. But

525
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: what we're talking about today is Peter Attia, who is

526
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: this prominent doctor and new CBS contributor, So you could

527
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: probably explain this better than me, But my understanding is

528
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: that years ago he had a baby who was hospitalized

529
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: in the ICU in serious condition. While the baby was

530
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: in there, he claimed he was at work and not

531
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: visiting his wife the whole time this baby is in

532
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: the hospital, and now that these documents have come out,

533
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: it seems like he wasn't actually at work and he

534
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: was instead hanging out with Jeffery Epstein, even though he

535
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: later wrote a book apologizing for not being there. For

536
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: his wife, saying that he was sorry he was a

537
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: workaholic and prioritizing being with his patients. Yeah, so this

538
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: is a huge disappointment because this guy, I think in general,

539
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: was a highly respected doctor. He wrote a book called Outlived,

540
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: which is it was the best New York Times bestseller,

541
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Like that's what he's known for. And in that book

542
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: he wrote this apology to his wife about not being

543
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: there for her and for her for their child when

544
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: this baby went into cardia. It wasn't like an illness,

545
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: like this baby's heart stopped and was in the ICU,

546
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: like could have died if it didn't get caught, probably

547
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: would have died.

548
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean, his wife was a nurse and resuscitated the baby. Yeah,

549
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: so if she didn't have that background, it might have

550
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: gone he I was always under the impression that.

551
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of us, especially people that

552
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: have children, would just be like, that's so, that's just

553
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: so insane to even think that she would have stayed

554
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: with him after that, because because it's just like, I

555
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: just can't imagine any excuse in the world that my

556
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: husband would not come home in a case like that,

557
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: for both of us, for me and for the baby

558
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: just to be there. I just unless they were physically

559
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: stuck somewhere in another country and like couldn't get back. Right.

560
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: So when you read this apology in his book, I

561
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: think that it was it seemed as if it was genuine,

562
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: and just because he's such a high level, high accomplished person,

563
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: he put it off like I'm so obsessed with my

564
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: work that I couldn't stop doing my work to come home.

565
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: And I look back and I think, like I shouldn't

566
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: have been like that, and.

567
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: Which is unacceptable on all levels. But like I could

568
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: sit back and be like, we're talking about this yesterday

569
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: if Gabe was in this situation right, like it it's

570
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 2: totally unacceptable on all levels, but you could sit back

571
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, well they're saving other people.

572
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we had there was a situation I think

573
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: after I had lu Cha. It was like he got

574
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: called for overtime on the last day I was in

575
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: the hospital, and I was just kind of like I

576
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: kind of was like, yeah, you can go, I don't care,

577
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: and then he was like, no, I'm not going to go.

578
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: But like the fact that we were even talking about it, Like,

579
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: in hindsight, it is kind of but you know, you

580
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: don't want to give up money and things like that,

581
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: and I don't really didn't really need them there anymore.

582
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: But but then a couple years later, another person that

583
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: he worked with, his wife went into the hospital and

584
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: had the baby, and then the guy like came in

585
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: for his overtime shift, like right away, like right after

586
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: the baby came out, and Gabe was just like, no,

587
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: you need like my husband actually said, you need to

588
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: go back, like this is out of control. So some

589
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: I think some guys don't like really know their their place,

590
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: and they think that you haven't handled and they're not

591
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: like they don't need you around and this and that

592
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: she's a nurse, Like she handled it and she's fine

593
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: and she's got family around her and we have money

594
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: and this and that whatever, Like that's a whole other conversation.

595
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: So but then when you read it in the book,

596
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, well, this guy at least acknowledges

597
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: that he was too obsessed with his work, and hopefully,

598
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes situations happened that changed the way people are,

599
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: and it seemed like he was he had learned a

600
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: lot from that lesson, and now like so let me

601
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: read you some of these emails that were in this drop. Recently,

602
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: he had been corresponding with Jeffrey Epstein and put quote,

603
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: got a fresh shipment, And a lot of people obviously

604
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: are thinking that these shipments and these words that are

605
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: being used are referencing girls, yes, sex trafficking and illegal behavior.

606
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: He is since come out with a statement yesterday and

607
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: said that he was talking about a fresh shipment of

608
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 1: met form and he got a drug, which I'm just like, no, Like,

609
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: his statement is just written like PR some PR person

610
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: wrote it, and it's total bullshit. He doesn't address any

611
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: of this stuff. So then there's also and a lot

612
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: of his statement that he just put out contradicts like

613
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: all of these things that he was saying in the

614
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: Epstein files. So one of it in quote it says

615
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: the biggest problem of being friends with him was the

616
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: life that saying this about Jeffrey Epstein is the life

617
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: that you lead is so outrageous, and yet I can't

618
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: tell a soul. And then he also made really crude

619
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: comments saying pussy is indeed low carb. This is this

620
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: is like a lifestyle expert that we should be listening to, right.

621
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess it's like, this is my problem

622
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: also with I mean, with everything this guy did, his

623
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: statements just being total bullshit. He said, quote what, I

624
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: was not involved in any criminal activity. Two, my interactions

625
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: with Epstein had nothing to do with his sexual abuse

626
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: or exploitation of anyone. Three I was never on his plane,

627
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: never on his island, and never present at any sex parties. Well,

628
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: I want to contradict number two saying my interactions had

629
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: nothing to do with his sexual abuse or exploitation of anybody,

630
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: because you knew this motherfucker was a convicted pedophile in

631
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, And there's emails in twenty eighteen

632
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: where you were asking if he had any fallout from

633
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: the Miami Herald expose. So like there's also where therefore

634
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: your complicity.

635
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's also documents of him or his assistant

636
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: like booking flights and things like like he's totally full

637
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: shit and whatever. Like we're not even talking about the

638
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: potential legal thing. I just am thinking about this from

639
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: a wife perspective and just how stupid people are. All

640
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: of these people that are in these emails know that

641
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: all of this stuff was eventually going to come out,

642
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: So do they just sit back and keep their fingers

643
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: crossed that it's never going to come out, Like did

644
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: his wife know that this was all coming out? It

645
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: took two minutes for people who read his book, because

646
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: thousands of people have read his book. It's it's like

647
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: it was one of the number one books for a

648
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: very long time. For people to put two and two

649
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: together with the dates of when he was missing with

650
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: his son and when these emails were sent. It took

651
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: five minutes for people to realize that.

652
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: So, like, I guess problem number one with that is

653
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: the Sun's in the ICU for four days. He didn't

654
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: come home for ten days after the wife first told

655
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: him the kid was going to the hospital, which is

656
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: disgusting behavior. And then they're saying that day there's an

657
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: email dated the day after the Sun's near death experience

658
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: showing him making plans to meet Epstein that next morning.

659
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, if if she stays with him

660
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: after this, it almost is it's such a disservice to

661
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: just women in general, Like, you cannot it doesn't matter

662
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: how much money you make or how sorry he says

663
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: he is, like that, it's it's just like the embarrassment.

664
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: It's so gross. And then his son is is, what, uh,

665
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: how old is he? Nine years old? When did this happen?

666
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, so he's like ten years old right now,

667
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: nine ten around there, Like, how do you feel if

668
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: you're his son? A boy, a man and this is

669
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: how like you're you you're you treated his mother? You

670
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it's and him too, as

671
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: a baby. Just it's just so it's so gross. It

672
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: just makes me think that this guy's total bullshit. I

673
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: don't trust a word he says anymore. He's a complete narcissist.

674
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. It's like I saw some people saying, well,

675
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I commend him for apologizing. He's changed my life and

676
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: this and that, and it's just like, no, dude, and

677
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: like any man that still follows this guy, if you

678
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: women are listening, because I know we have a majority

679
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: female audience, Like if your husband even still supports this guy,

680
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I said, I told Gabe about it. He

681
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: read this book before, and he's just like that, like

682
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: he he was like, yeah, he like wrote this whole

683
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: thing to his wife that he was sorry for being

684
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: obsessed with his work because a lot of men relate

685
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: to that, and I'm like, no, dude, this is what

686
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: actually happened, and he couldn't believe it, and I'm just like,

687
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he just and I'm not like, I'm definitely

688
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: not a fan of canceling people. But when your whole

689
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: thing is that you're trying to teach people how to

690
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: live a long, like good life, this like it's just like, no,

691
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: I don't think so well.

692
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: Ricky last night was like, did you hear about the

693
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: doctor that said pussy was low carb? And I was like,

694
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: did you hear that his kid was dying in the ICU?

695
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: And instead of attending to his family, he was with

696
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein Maybe in crimes like that, that's the bigger

697
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: That's the bigger problem to me than the disgusting emails

698
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: he sent.

699
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: So he So he just got hired as the health

700
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: correspondent for CBS. It's like such a huge deal. So

701
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: and they just recently re branded and stuff. So have

702
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: they definitely caught ties with him as of yet? Because

703
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: I know it was like they they were debating on

704
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: it and this and that because and and like because

705
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: I think that they rebranded and they're not doing so

706
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: great as it is, and this is like the last

707
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: thing that they need. But I don't know. I just

708
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: think that if you, if you care about women, like

709
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: you just can't have this guy he needs. He could,

710
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: he could have a chance, like everybody has a chance

711
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: for forgiveness at some point, but he needs to go

712
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: away for a while.

713
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: And we're not talking about like a man that was

714
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: just being a s gumbag and cheating on his wife

715
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, he was potentially we don't know

716
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: for a fact, he was potentially committed crimes with minors

717
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: or involved in sex trafficking because he was clearly friends

718
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: with a guy that was in jail for sex trafficking.

719
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: So and he was clearly aware of it because he

720
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: acknowledged seeing the Miami Herald expos in twenty eighteen, and

721
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: he should have been aware that his bestie was a

722
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: convicted pedophile a decade prior to that.

723
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: He said, as he said in his statement yesterday, as

724
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: soon as he found out, he sent emails that he

725
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: had to stop the relationship and stuff, and I was like, oh,

726
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: but no, no he did, But those didn't come out

727
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: in the drop.

728
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: He said. They were outside of the organism Yeah, it's

729
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: just it's just such.

730
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: A turn off. And this happened. This happened to another

731
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: guy that was like a podcaster that was being a

732
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: scumbag behind the scenes too. I just think like when

733
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: you have these these influencers that that are having influence

734
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: over men and men think they're the greatest things ever

735
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: and then they're doing stuff like this, it just it

736
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: just really is so gross. Like this is like the

737
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: last example of a man.

738
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: Are you talking about? Huberman was because emails came out

739
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: because he also was hired by CBS, So like, what,

740
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: what's their problem?

741
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: At least at least with him, he's been I don't

742
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: even know what happened with him, but at least that

743
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: happened years ago, and that that's just like he I

744
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: think he was having like a bunch of girlfriends behind

745
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: each other's back and stuff, which it's just not even

746
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: on the same level as this even a little bit.

747
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: But I don't even think anybody even cared ye that.

748
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: It's just like you just have to be careful of

749
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: these people that you like look up to and think

750
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: are the best things in the world, because like what's

751
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes is not true of what

752
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: they're putting out there. I mean, like I think that

753
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: it's and the same could be said for women too.

754
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: It's just like when you're when you're looking up to

755
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: people and trying to live your life like a person,

756
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: it's just it's just gross.

757
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: And I'm definitely not for cancel culture or anything, but

758
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: like he should have in theory been canceled, and he

759
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: admitted to not being there for his wife despite saying

760
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: he was at work. I'm sorry, no explanation is reasonable

761
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: at all unless you're being held hostage somewhere and you

762
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 2: like literally could not come home.

763
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: And then I do believe that there are some people,

764
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, listen like this, this is a back and

765
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: forth because if you talk about prominent figures in history

766
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: and in current times that are accomplishing just astounding things,

767
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: you could say that about Alex whatever his name is,

768
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: what's his last name?

769
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: The guy never climbed this skyscraper.

770
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: Guy like he just accomplished something well prior to that,

771
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: when he climbed the mountain that was in the documentary.

772
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: He accomplishes something that barely anybody in the world could

773
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: do and has done, and with that greatness comes like

774
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: he's not a present thought either, like you can't and I.

775
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: Called that out. I'm not okay with that either.

776
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: Well, but like then nobody would ever do anything great

777
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: in the world.

778
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: Then don't have children.

779
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: No, No, that's because you're still being selfish to somebody.

780
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: Like Tom Brady's a good example, like he's the greatest

781
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: football player of all time or whatever. Like the you

782
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: see the cost it took on his marriage and kids.

783
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: Like though, the way that you're good at something like

784
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: that is to be obsessive with it. And for him

785
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: to write the book and apologize for that and and

786
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: put that out there, I thought that that was awesome. Actually,

787
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: I don't think he should have got canceled for that

788
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: at all. I think he acknowledged it and was like,

789
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: you know what, like I'm obsessed with my work and

790
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: and and like I'm I'm trying to be a better person.

791
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: Because a lot of a lot of people can relate

792
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: to that.

793
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 2: It's just funny because like, you can't you can't say

794
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: that because then like nobody's gonna do shit because everybody's

795
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: gonna stay home and be safe, Like that's just ridiculous.

796
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: But like if he didn't put that in his book,

797
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: would this have even become a big deal. Well, I

798
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: mean because like his name would have came up in

799
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: the documents, but.

800
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he it's definitely like I think that if

801
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: you talk about anybody that's talking about his character, that

802
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: people are very just flabbergasted by this, Like you know.

803
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: It's unacceptable at all levels. This episode is brought to

804
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: you by the Gross Room guys.

805
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: This week in the Gross Room, of course, we had

806
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: the breaking news of Catherine O'Hara's death, so we have

807
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: that this section, and don't forget to check that out

808
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: because I talk about all of the different kinds of

809
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: forms of ciitis and versus, along with showing the difference

810
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: at autopsy, which is super cool. Both cases I show

811
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: were also incident. All the people didn't know that they

812
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: had it prior to their death. And we also talk

813
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: about some videos that have gone viral this week, including God,

814
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: a woman did you see that one? The woman that

815
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: was taking out her trash and it's all caught on

816
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: her ring doorbell camera and some person fell asleep at

817
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: the wheel and like hit her in there. Yeah, and

818
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: I actually showed the kids that video because it's not

819
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: bloody or anything, and I just always tell them about

820
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: walking too close to the curb and how easy it

821
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: is for a car that in a neighborhood. This is

822
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: like a residential neighborhood. You wouldn't think that that would happen, right,

823
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: And it's all caught on video. And then also this

824
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 1: other video that's going viral about mosquitoes that like when

825
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: you put a warm blooded animal near mosquitos in a

826
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: lab environment, what they do and it's so it's like

827
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: one of the most terrifying videos that I've ever seen.

828
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Like people smeared across the highway. Whatever doesn't bother me,

829
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: but like all of these mosquitoes trying to stab this

830
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: person is really so disturbing. So and then we talk about,

831
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, mosquito born illness and why they're so dangerous

832
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: to humans. So all that and more in the Grossroom.

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Speaker 2: Head over to the grocerroom dot com now to sign up.

834
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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've had a lot of and we've probably

835
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: been covered all of the deaths that have been happening

836
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks because we've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of fairly extreme weather in this area, like half

838
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: the country has gone through this. I heard my niece

839
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: is in Florida right now, and she said it was

840
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: like forty degrees or twenty degrees or it's like really

841
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: cold in Disney World right now.

842
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Disney's really cold. Texas got hit with snow.

843
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: I saw that my beloved Chip and Joanna store was

844
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: closed in Waco.

845
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: Which it was that bad that it had to close

846
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: or is it more just like they don't know what

847
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: to do when it snows?

848
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: Think about Texas. I mean, I've been seeing videos of

849
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: people at Texas that are like, I literally don't have

850
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: snowshovels or the things we have in our car, you know,

851
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 2: the brushes and whatever. They're like, they don't even sell

852
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: those here. So I'm getting the ice off my car

853
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 2: with a lip cloth.

854
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

855
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but this one's pretty So in

856
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: New York, these people had been running a mobile vetinary

857
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: clinic out of a van, which was seemingly would park

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00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: on the street and operate as a normal clinic. So

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00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: over the weekend they were parked by some snow and

860
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: while operating on a dog, the exhaust from their generator

861
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: must have gotten clogged or blocked by the snow outside,

862
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: which made the exhaust come into the fan. So as

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Speaker 2: a result of that, the vet working on the dog

864
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: and the dog died and another man who was the

865
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: owner of the clinic was found unconscious.

866
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is a terrible freak accident that

867
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't think about. And the generator aside,

868
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: like this could happen to any car at all. If

869
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: car gets stuck in snow, gets stuck in the exhaust pipe,

870
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: so when the car is on. It usually happens in

871
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: the same exact situation where a person is pulled over

872
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: and has the vehicle on and it's idling and the

873
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: heat is on and they're sitting there and the carbon

874
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: monoxide that is formed from the engine cannot go out

875
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: of the exhaust pipe and instead it kind of backs

876
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: up into the system and leaks and could get in

877
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: through the vents and just any kind of you know,

878
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: if it's an older car, could get through cracks in

879
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: the system and stuff like that. And carbon monoxide is

880
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: called the silent killer because you can't smell it, you

881
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: can't taste it. You just start feeling like you have

882
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: a headache, you have nausea, things like that. And if

883
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: they were in the middle of operating on a dog.

884
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: They might have not felt great, but you can't just

885
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: kind of stop doing an operation right then and there.

886
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden they ended up passing

887
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: out because of it, and the one guy died, I mean,

888
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: he was exposed to too much of it. The other

889
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: guy was able to get out of when I guess

890
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: when he came to he was able to get out

891
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: and get transported to the hospital and is still alive.

892
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 2: The dog died too, right, Yeah, I mean, I guess

893
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 2: what I can't understand about this is how I've seen

894
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: like mobile grooming vans stuff, but I've never seen a

895
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: mobile vet clinic that's just operating out of a van

896
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: to the point where they would allow operations on animals

897
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: to be going on inside of it.

898
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: Well, if it was, I mean, like if you look

899
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: at some of these campers and stuff, they have running water, electricity,

900
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: Like I guess I just was like, I don't know,

901
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't a trailer. It was just like yeah, but

902
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: it didn't look like one. Yeah, Like I mean sprinter

903
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: vans have all that stuff. Yeah, I want one. Actually

904
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: they have toilets sometimes, like all that stuff. So if

905
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: it if it was set up and approved for something

906
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: like that. I know that they definitely have mobile like

907
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: dog grooming things. I've seen stuff like that, but if

908
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean he, I feel like the guy was like

909
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: doing a good thing with it. It was like for

910
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: people that were of lowering common stuff like that sometimes,

911
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: And it could have been simple procedures like sterilization procedures

912
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: and things that are a specially with a mail dog,

913
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: like doing a sterilization procedure is not super invasive procedure

914
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: like it could have been like I don't know if

915
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: they were cut open and like taking out their spleen

916
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: or something, you know what I mean, Like, no, for sure,

917
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: I just never heard of it before.

918
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: And when we were getting all of that snow a

919
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, I was seeing a lot of

920
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: graphics on social media basically just even at your house

921
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: making sure that the exhaust from your like HVAC system

922
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: or furnace wasn't blocked by the snow because that could

923
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: possibly cause issues with the house. I don't know how

924
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: true that is. I just kept seeing it, and then

925
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: it was like kept crossing my mind.

926
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: Well, whenever you have stuff burning like that, you want

927
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: to make sure it's vented out. So and this is

928
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: this is like a thing that could happen easily when

929
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: a car is in a garage. I mean, people kill

930
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: themselves that way all the time, right, But I guess

931
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that they're safe because that

932
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: they're outside. But if you're in a car with the

933
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: windows up, which I'm sure they were because it's freezing out,

934
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: you're encasing it in that environment and the levels are

935
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: becoming too high. So what happens is you have this

936
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: protein on your blood cells, it's called hemoglobin, and that

937
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: protein with the hemoglobin kind of carries all of the

938
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: oxygen that you breathe in to your organs to deliver it.

939
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: And when you breathe in carbon monoxide that binds to

940
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: the hemoglobin like four hundred times faster and easier than

941
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: oxygen is does, so it overtakes it. And then when

942
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: these blood cells are not able to grab oxygen and

943
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: all they have is this hemoglobin with the carbon monoxide

944
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: on it, that's going to the organs, and like the

945
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: organs can't function without the oxygen, and that's what happens.

946
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: So you're almost that dizziness, you're feeling a nausea and stuff.

947
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: It's like you're slowly depriving your organs of oxygen and

948
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: dyeing and you can survive it, but it's very and

949
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: a lot of times people just don't realize it until

950
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: it's too late.

951
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: All right, Well it's happened again. A World War One

952
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: artillery shell was discovered in a patience but in the

953
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: hospital had to be evacuated because they didn't know if

954
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: it was going to explode.

955
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: So this is so as soon as I saw this,

956
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, how on earth is there another

957
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: person that put a World War One artillery shell in

958
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: their rectum? Right? I mean, how what are the chances

959
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: that that happened again? So the story is almost exactly

960
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: the same as the story from that I thought about,

961
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: and I went in the grocer room in search and

962
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: sure enough found it from twenty twenty two.

963
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure we talked about that on the

964
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: Six Shocking Stories.

965
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: And like, when I look at the news story that's

966
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: being reported, they're showing the pictures from the article from

967
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So I'm just really confused, like if

968
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: this is a new story, I'm like, how do I

969
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: have these pictures from twowenty twenty two, and so so, like,

970
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm really confused as to what's going on. The story

971
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: is almost exactly the same except in the first in

972
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: the one from twenty twenty two, it said it was

973
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: an eighty eight year old man, and now it's saying

974
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: it's a twenty four year old man. But all of

975
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: the other details are the same, like they didn't know

976
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: what it was, and then they figured it out, and

977
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: then they called the bomb squad, and the bomb squad

978
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: came and they were able to take it out. And

979
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: so is it a news story? Isn't it a new story?

980
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think it's weird that

981
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: that they're using the same picture unless the news sources

982
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: are just like just searching artillery shell and finding that

983
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: picture and using it and saying it's the same one.

984
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: I think that's what happened, because it seemed like a

985
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: stock image on this article I reference for my notes anyway,

986
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: of an artillery show. But it's not I'm not talking

987
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: about the stock image I'm talking about there is an

988
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: image of a person that is wearing a blue hospital

989
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: gown holding it like it came out as a rectal

990
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: foreign body. So why why is the same exact picture

991
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: being used that that's not a stock image, that's like, oh,

992
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 2: this is the thing we took out of this guy's ass.

993
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't know why they're using it and you, I mean,

994
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: I see that it's reported on New York Posts and

995
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: what they met. They were at different they were at

996
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: different hospitals, so there are different cases, but they were

997
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: both in France, not very far from each other. But

998
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: apparently they're saying there's this Iron Festival, which is this

999
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: annual collection of often unexploded ammunition from both World Wars

1000
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: found on farmland, building sites and other disrupted lands. So

1001
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 2: these things pop up at these iron harvests and that's

1002
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: where they think it happened. Again, like that's where the

1003
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: people are getting them, and these incidents seem to be

1004
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 2: around the time this harvest happens.

1005
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I'm a little saus that it's

1006
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: that it's it's the same story just getting retold but with.

1007
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: The incorrect information.

1008
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I just like, like I said, like they're

1009
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: using they're using an old picture. So I'm just kind

1010
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: of like, did this story just start circulating again and

1011
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: it didn't really like.

1012
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the details were a little different because the

1013
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: one you initially reported in twenty twenty two, they're saying

1014
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: that they saw it and then they had to call

1015
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: the bomb squad in and then they determined it was

1016
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: then safe to take it out, whereas this new story

1017
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: is saying this guy came in with pain and they

1018
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: were in the middle of emergency surgery and that's when

1019
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: they saw it and then had to have the bomb

1020
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: squad come in and determine if it was safe. And

1021
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: also at that point, like do they have what did

1022
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: they do if somebody's cut open and they're taking it

1023
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: out and then the bomb squad has to go, well.

1024
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: They would just they would either close them up really fast,

1025
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: if that was possible, or they would just have the

1026
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: only the essential personnel that needed to be there. I mean,

1027
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I just can't even believe that

1028
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: this would happen two different times.

1029
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the desirable shape that if you look

1030
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: at the shape of it, it is exactly the shape

1031
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: of other things people are sticking up their butts.

1032
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: I guess.

1033
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So if five pregnant woman was found dead after

1034
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: she was stabbed seventy times and her home was set

1035
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: on fire during a Facebook marketplace meetup.

1036
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is such a scary and terrible story. So

1037
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: this woman's husband had listed a pickup truck for sale

1038
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: and he was at work and someone came over to

1039
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: look at it. I don't know if she had set

1040
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: it up and they had called him and said can

1041
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: I come look at it or whatever. But I don't

1042
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: really understand what happened that this guy decided to come

1043
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: into her house, attack her, stab her to death seventy times,

1044
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: so it's like super crime of passion overkill. She told

1045
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: the guy she was pregnant and begged for her life,

1046
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: and he still stabbed her to death. Then he stabbed

1047
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: their dog. The dog was able to get out of

1048
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: the house, and then he set the house on fire.

1049
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean he has he has to be on drugs

1050
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: or something or like. I don't know what triggered that

1051
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of a response.

1052
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either, because they're staying. Based on

1053
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: surveillance footage, it looks like he showed up. He was

1054
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: supposed to only be switching license plates out, so they

1055
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: have surveillance of her giving him a screwdriver, and then

1056
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: a couple minutes later, the surveillance shows him coming into

1057
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: the house with the screwdriver. Then, based on that, I'm

1058
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: assuming it's a doorbell camera footage. So then they said,

1059
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: based on this footage, it looks like the door was

1060
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: opening and closing really quickly, and the door handle was

1061
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: jiggling a lot, which made them think that she was

1062
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: trying to get out or somebody's trying to get out.

1063
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: But then he sets the house on fire. Police go,

1064
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: They respond to the fire to call the fire. They

1065
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: find her in there with all those stab wounds in

1066
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: her face and in her neck. The dogs also stabbed.

1067
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: Thank god. She had a toddler too that wasn't home

1068
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: at the time, thank god. But her husband was at

1069
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: work during all of this. So can you imagine all

1070
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: of this going down?

1071
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: And then the guy. They found the guy pretty easily.

1072
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: The truck. He obviously stole the car, so then the

1073
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: car's in his driveway, just like sitting there, and he

1074
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: admitted to doing this. And what there's what he's seeming

1075
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: to say is that he was annoyed by the condition

1076
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: of the truck and he took out his rage on her.

1077
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: This person is nineteen years old that stabbed this thirty

1078
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: year old mother to death.

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00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she like this. This is just I

1080
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: feel so bad for the husband because it was his

1081
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: truck that he posted, so he probably feels like it's

1082
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: his fault looking back on on that, so whole have

1083
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: to deal with that for the rest of his life.

1084
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not his fault. This guy's just a psycho.

1085
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you could talk to a lot of people

1086
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: that have dealt with the Facebook marketplace and have had

1087
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: no problems, but cases like this just make it so scary,

1088
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: and you're just really show that you're inviting any stranger

1089
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: to your house. I mean, the whole world could see

1090
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: what's going on on Facebook. Your name, your address, probably

1091
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: could have figured out that the husband had a job,

1092
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: wasn't there. You know, you'll give a lot of information

1093
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: out online and don't even realize it.

1094
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: Well, remember that Listener had written in a couple of

1095
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: weeks ago saying she was having a problem with somebody

1096
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: on Facebook marketplace and it made her think she could

1097
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: potentially be on a future episode of our show because

1098
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: of it. And it is scary. I especially see an

1099
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: uptick and issues with people that are pregnant on Facebook marketplace,

1100
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: people targeting them.

1101
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it just sucks. Like I mean, like

1102
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: you just look at it, and now the guy's on

1103
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: suicide watch. He tried to kill himself or something like that,

1104
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, dude, why didn't you just kill yourself

1105
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: and like leave these people alone? If you're if you're

1106
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: that miserable with your life, Like, why are you just

1107
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: deciding to do something like this? Like could you imagine

1108
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: being that angry about the car and then this woman saying,

1109
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: please don't hurt me, I'm pregnant, and then just continuing

1110
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: to stab a person Like it's it's like, God, it's

1111
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: so scary that people are walking around like that right now.

1112
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: You know there's other people that were just waiting to

1113
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: do something like that, or one little thing's gonna make

1114
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: them snap, like snap like that.

1115
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm five months pregnant and this makes me extremely ir

1116
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: like uneasy to.

1117
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Hell about our own Facebook market.

1118
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: Please, Well, this is what I was saying though, when

1119
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: that listener wrote in a couple of weeks ago, like

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00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: there is a part of you that has to be

1121
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: hesitant because there are crazy people. And even though you'll

1122
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: set all the stipulations like porch pickup whatever, put the

1123
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: cash in my mailbox or something's free, just literally come

1124
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: take it out of my driveway. There's always some creep

1125
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: that still knocks on the door, and you're just like

1126
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: what the fuck, Like, Yeah, I had this planned out.

1127
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: I've done it before with certain things. And then Gabe

1128
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: was just like, we're not doing this anymore. I don't

1129
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: care that you might be able to make a couple

1130
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: hundred dollars or something. I'd rather you just like give

1131
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: it to someone or throw it in the trash. We're

1132
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: not taking the risk anymore. And I was like, okay,

1133
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: but no, I mean.

1134
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, all right, on your questions and emails, First,

1135
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: do you ever need to take a mental health break

1136
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: from seeing gory pictures and learning about all the gruesome stories?

1137
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: Has any of this ever impacted either of you like that.

1138
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: Really, I'll be honest with you, it doesn't ever impact me.

1139
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: The only time that I really I turned off the

1140
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: news and everything for an entire month and social media,

1141
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: like I really cut it down and everything else was

1142
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: when the school shooting happened at the Uvaldi School. I

1143
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: just like it was the only time I don't even know,

1144
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: like and like all the other ones have bothered me too,

1145
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: But like, especially when the Sandy Hook one happened, I

1146
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: wasn't even on social media yet, I don't think, no,

1147
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: I I wasn't so like I didn't have to really

1148
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: do much to avoid it. And obviously that one bothered

1149
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: me too, but the Uvaldi one, it just was like

1150
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: I feel like it was my kids were in the

1151
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: same grade. Like it just it just hit me. It

1152
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: just made me feel so gross. I had to turn

1153
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: it off. And every time I was on social media,

1154
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: if I saw anything of it, I just swiped by

1155
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: it really fast. But just I turned off the news

1156
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't listen to it, and

1157
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: I know that they they were in court recently and

1158
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: everything with the sheriff and all that, and I just like,

1159
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't I avoid it. But other than that, no,

1160
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't really. I don't really get bothered by things.

1161
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you just have to train

1162
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: yourself to turn off that part of your brain and

1163
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: not let it bother you. I mean, there's been a

1164
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: handful of stories that have really affected me. Like I

1165
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: remember when I was trying to get pregnant for so long,

1166
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: and then we had a story about people that were

1167
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: doing fentanyl and having babies with small heads, and I

1168
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: like cried all night about it really upset me so

1169
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: bad because I'm just like, why can't I have a baby,

1170
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: But these like people that are doing drugs and have

1171
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: no regard for life babies.

1172
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: Or like that guy what was his name, Horro what

1173
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: was his first name?

1174
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: Oh? J Carrow?

1175
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy that they like made that whole fake

1176
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: kidnapping and then here he killed the baby. But then

1177
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: we found out that he had beat his last baby

1178
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: so bad that she had shaken baby syndrome and was

1179
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: forever like handicap because he beat or so bad. And

1180
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: You're just like, how come like people like Maria can't

1181
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: get pregnant and have a baby that like really want

1182
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: to love a baby, and then you have like these

1183
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: scumbags that that do stuff like this.

1184
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's just I feel like stuff with

1185
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: children in particular, like and we really cut so many

1186
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: stories in children. Obviously we do, you still talk about

1187
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: some stuff, but we really cut so many and I

1188
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: feel like those are the ones that affect me the most.

1189
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: And then there's just this weird thing when you're pregnant

1190
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: that everybody, like, even at our family Christmas party, just

1191
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 2: people coming at me like, oh, so and so died

1192
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: in childbirth. I know somebody that's baby died in thirty eight.

1193
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't want to hear this. What

1194
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: makes you think I want to hear this. It's it's

1195
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: very weird, but.

1196
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: I hear It's funny because I do hear about some

1197
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: stories since you've been pregnant, and like I don't even

1198
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: put them on the list. And I'm like, if she

1199
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: sees it and she puts it on the list, she

1200
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: could put it on the list, but like unless it

1201
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: was like really important to talk about, like this one

1202
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: with the Facebook marketplace, But like I could turn my

1203
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: brain off though for certain ones, you know, cause like

1204
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: this Facebook marketplace one, for example, I don't know that

1205
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: her being pregnant had anything to do with it. Like

1206
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: if she was there by herself and a single woman,

1207
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: she still was getting killed. Like that guy just it

1208
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he went there looking for a pregnant

1209
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: person to kill. Like he's just unhinged, you know.

1210
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: And I don't remember if we covered that influencer nurse

1211
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: that died during childbirth while I was pregnant or it

1212
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: was either while I was like early pregnant. I don't

1213
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: remember the timeline of it, or it was while I

1214
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: was like about to be pregnant, like mid IVF, so

1215
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't know things like that where it's like a

1216
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: really totally healthy person suddenly dies. Like I don't like

1217
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: those and I don't want to hear because it's like whatever,

1218
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: and I fully am going into it knowing something could happen.

1219
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: I just don't want it to have it in the

1220
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: back of my mind.

1221
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: It's just like I had two circumstances with that because

1222
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: the first time, when I was pregnant with you, obviously

1223
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: I was fifteen years old and I didn't know anything,

1224
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: and it was like bliss, Like I never even knew

1225
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: that that was an option, that you could die, or

1226
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: that your baby could die.

1227
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,479
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like I was yeah.

1228
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: And then it's like and then the last two that

1229
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: I I have, I'm like highly educated in pathology and

1230
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: doing autopsies on fetuses every day, and it's just like

1231
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: a completely opposite reality of like what could happen, and

1232
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: you just have to like it happens and you just

1233
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: have to be like, hopefully it won't happen to me,

1234
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: just like people die in car accidents. It's like a

1235
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: weird thing, Like more people die in car accidents than anything,

1236
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: And like, do you ever hesitate leaving the house to

1237
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: go in a car to go anywhere? No, you don't

1238
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: even think about it.

1239
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: Like no, And people want to make fun of me

1240
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: for reading like romance books and stuff or whatever. But

1241
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: sometimes when we have like these hard stories back to

1242
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: back to back, I'm like, I just need to read

1243
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: some dumb Hallmark level no conflict problem people are on

1244
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: vacation and falling in love right, Like, I know it's stupid,

1245
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: but like that prevents me from having a mental breakdown

1246
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: because I'm able to like turn it off and restart

1247
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: my brain for the next day. But yeah, all right.

1248
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: Next is from Emily first Absolute, I love you too.

1249
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I found you in your podcast. So

1250
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: about autistic Barbie, I'm not necessarily offended by it, I

1251
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: just think it's stupid to put it bluntly. I was

1252
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: diagnosed at forty nine years old. I always had a

1253
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: feeling I was on the spectrum. I just didn't get

1254
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: diagnosed until later in life. My thing with the Barbie

1255
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: as it puts all on the spectrum in one little

1256
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: box myself, my brother, and two nephews are on the

1257
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 2: spectrum and none of us walk around with big headphones

1258
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: on and what looks like a fidget spinner in our hands.

1259
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: Autism is, as it states, a spectrum. We're all different

1260
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: in many ways, and honestly, autism doesn't have a look.

1261
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: I think it just shows whoever's idea it was to

1262
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 2: put this out no zero about autism and possibly out

1263
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: of ideas.

1264
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: Lol.

1265
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm just listening to that episode and wanted to throw

1266
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: my two cents in.

1267
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with your two cents.

1268
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: I feel like you're trying to like they just are

1269
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: trying to appeal to all of these different things and

1270
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: it's just dumb because like why one group get a

1271
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: barbie and the other one does it and stuff. It's

1272
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, I never got the whole

1273
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: barbie thing because when I was younger, it was like

1274
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: every barbie was blonde hair and no, you know, no vagina,

1275
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: and like you know, they plastics, very skinny, didn't bend

1276
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: their body, permanent high heel feet. And there was a

1277
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: big thing when I got older that it was it

1278
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: was showing women like a negative image and that's not

1279
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: what real people look like. And I don't know, like

1280
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: I never looked at the doll and thought that real

1281
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: people looked like that because it's a doll and it

1282
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a real person. I never felt away

1283
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: because I didn't have blonde hair. I just like never

1284
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: did and I'm a brown hair person. I never dyed

1285
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: my hair blonde. I never was like, oh, that's the

1286
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: only person that's beautiful because of this doll. It's just

1287
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't get that whole thing,

1288
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: but I mean, I guess I respect if people feel

1289
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: like they should have a doll for them they have

1290
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: an American doll that has for hearing loss.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say that because there's a

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Speaker 2: meme about the American Girl dollar where it's true American

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Speaker 2: Girl just released its first deaf doll, and then the

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Speaker 2: meme is like, wait, the other ones could hear us.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm off for releasing the accessories if

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Speaker 2: people choose to use them or they want them. But

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Speaker 2: this is exactly what I was saying on that episode,

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Speaker 2: that people that actually have autism are like not necessarily offended,

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Speaker 2: but they're just like, what are you doing, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm always a person like and I know people feel

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Speaker 1: completely different about this. This is just my personal way

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Speaker 1: of being that I don't ever want to be like

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Speaker 1: treated special or different because it's something that's wrong with

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Speaker 1: me or my kid, or because I'm a woman or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. I just want to be treated like

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Speaker 1: everyone else. And so it's just like I don't really

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Speaker 1: want a doll that's just for me. I'd rather just

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Speaker 1: play with the same one that all the other people

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Speaker 1: play with. Like, I don't want special treatment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Last is from Amanda. One of the questions that keeps

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Speaker 2: coming up is how we can determine the value of

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Speaker 2: a case and Texas medical expenses that are paid or

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Speaker 2: incurred are what we can expect an insurance company to

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Speaker 2: consider for reimbursement. Another way we could prove future expenses

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Speaker 2: is through a life care plan. When I was in

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Speaker 2: an accident, I injured my neck and lower back. We

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Speaker 2: did a life care plan for my neck and they

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Speaker 2: take so many things into consideration. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 2: having a transfer done on Friday. Oh good, look to transfer.

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Speaker 2: That's so awesome. And this is the same lawyer. I

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Speaker 2: believe that rode in with other information about the Chipotle case.

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Speaker 2: Please keep sending us the legal breakdowns because we don't

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Speaker 2: understand anything. All right, guys. Well, we have our Valentine's

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