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Speaker 1: Good morning, Josh, Good morning Mike. How are you great?

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Speaker 1: How how important is the vertical element in the passing

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Speaker 1: game and can the passing game be considered successful maybe

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Speaker 1: long term if you're not hitting that with some frequency.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's important to have the ability to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball vertically, horizontally horizontally UM. You know in

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Speaker 1: every game, you know, and most pass patterns have that

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Speaker 1: element UM available to them. UM. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: you know, part of that process which involves certainly decision making. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, whether you want to you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: do everything you can to try to force it down

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Speaker 1: the field where there's times where you could do at

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Speaker 1: UM or you call plays that have an option to

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Speaker 1: UM throw the ball down the field vertically and if

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Speaker 1: the defense were to play you know, specific coverages that

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Speaker 1: take those elements away that you then make the decision

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Speaker 1: to do something else with the ball. UM. You know, certainly,

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Speaker 1: UH you want to be able to attack all areas

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Speaker 1: of the field and force the defense to defend everything UM.

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Speaker 1: And we'll continue to try to work hard at doing that.

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Speaker 1: And again I know I can I can do UM

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Speaker 1: more and in that area to to give us chances Um.

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Speaker 1: I think there's also a balance of the timing of

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Speaker 1: the game, the score, the situation itself. You're weighing a

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Speaker 1: little bit of risk versus reward, um, etc. So I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of factors there. But to know,

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Speaker 1: the short answer to your question is, yes, it's important

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Speaker 1: to have the ability to throw the ball to all

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Speaker 1: levels of the defense and make them defend everything, which

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Speaker 1: certainly would open up other things for you underneath possibly.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think is an important

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Speaker 1: balance between just closing your eyes and heaving it deep

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Speaker 1: when it's really not there. You know, we had a

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Speaker 1: chance I think in the maybe the second quarter, maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe the first quarter. You know, we ended up with

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Speaker 1: two guys back there on a post and they ended

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Speaker 1: up being off sides on the play. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the decision making process is the scheme available to you.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have to make smart decisions about that

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Speaker 1: if you're going to do it. Thank you, Josh, Yep

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Speaker 1: expression Phil Perry Fall by Michael Brulin, Hey, Josh, how's

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Speaker 1: it going good? Phil? How you doing it good? You

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Speaker 1: mentioned there's obviously a lot that goes into those decisions.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's I would assume the play call or the

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Speaker 1: decision and in real time that the quarterback has to

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Speaker 1: make to throw it down the field. But I just

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Speaker 1: want to ask you, as as a play caller and

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Speaker 1: working with obviously a young quarterback who's only played two

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Speaker 1: games here, do you maybe call fewer of those types

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Speaker 1: of plays that would ask for Mac to push it

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Speaker 1: down the field just to help him get his feet

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Speaker 1: wet with what looked like more manageable passes. Or do

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Speaker 1: you trust him fully to if that throw is there,

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Speaker 1: to take it and be as aggressive as he wants. Yep,

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Speaker 1: I trust him completely, And so I think I think,

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Speaker 1: and again kind of a piggyback off of Mike's question,

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Speaker 1: and I understand your question too, Um, I think there's

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Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into each decision. And again, look,

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Speaker 1: I I'm the first one to say that I could

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Speaker 1: do a better job at a number of things, you know,

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Speaker 1: as I look back at what I've done the first game,

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Speaker 1: the second game, and how we want to try to

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Speaker 1: grow and evolve as the season goes on in terms

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Speaker 1: of a lot of areas of our offense making progress. Um,

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Speaker 1: But I think you you know, protection is one of him.

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Speaker 1: You know, the discussions. You have to you have to,

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Speaker 1: you know, be aware of um blitz. Is there a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure you know coming at you? Can you

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Speaker 1: hold the ball? You know? Are you able to do

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Speaker 1: things with certain protections to add time to your pocket? Um?

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Speaker 1: You know, and and and he has to deal with

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Speaker 1: all of those same things. You know, he has to

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Speaker 1: weigh what is the coverage, how am I seeing it

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Speaker 1: doesn't give me a chance to do that? At the

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Speaker 1: same time, react to maybe something in the pass rush

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Speaker 1: or what have you that forces the ball to come

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Speaker 1: out of his hand a little quicker. That's been the

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Speaker 1: case for every quarterback who's ever played. And I think

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Speaker 1: for me, I'm there's believe me, there's not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot that we're holding back for him. UM. I think

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Speaker 1: this was a very aggressive front that we saw in

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Speaker 1: New York. Certainly, Um, they did a good job of

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Speaker 1: trying to get up the field and get into the

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Speaker 1: middle of the pocket some which certainly we can improve

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Speaker 1: in that area as well. And then we talked, you

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Speaker 1: know last week about you know, how much pressure Miami

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Speaker 1: brought and so on and so forth. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's a combination of all those things you can call

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Speaker 1: as many as you want. It doesn't mean the ball

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Speaker 1: is going to go there because the defense certainly has

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Speaker 1: a vote and where the ball is going to end

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Speaker 1: up going. And then our execution across the board. The

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Speaker 1: read from the quarterback's perspective, was the coverage, you know,

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Speaker 1: applicable for us to take a shot or throw it

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Speaker 1: down the field or throw it intermediate. The execution of

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Speaker 1: the protection, the execution of the blitz, pick up the route,

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Speaker 1: did we run the route the right way? Did we

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Speaker 1: get open down the field? Did we give ourselves an opportunity?

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of things that go

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Speaker 1: into that. Certainly, you know, like I said, you want

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Speaker 1: to be able to test those areas of the field

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Speaker 1: as you move forward. But I also want him to

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Speaker 1: make smart decisions. I want him to protect the football,

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Speaker 1: and I want him to be aggressive when it's time

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Speaker 1: to be aggressive. And I you know, look, he's throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball down the sideline to Nelson Aguilar in Miami.

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Speaker 1: He's throwing the ball up the middle, you know, the Miami.

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Speaker 1: He threw it down the sideline to Jacobe this week.

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Speaker 1: You know. So it's not like he's not doing that.

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Speaker 1: It's just there's certain times when it's the right time

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Speaker 1: to do it, in certain times where there's not, And

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Speaker 1: I got to continue to work hard at myself to

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Speaker 1: try to provide our offense with opportunities to do that

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Speaker 1: if it presents themselves. Thanks Josh, yep, thanks though, and

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Speaker 1: Droid Mayo's waiting, so we're gonna probably make this the

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Speaker 1: last question. Michael Hurling, go ahead, Hey, Josh, I'm just curious,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially earlier in the year, as you're trying

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Speaker 1: to establish what you want to do for a game plan,

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Speaker 1: how much does the opponent factory And I asked because

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Speaker 1: the Saints, you know, kind of have had two very

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Speaker 1: different performances thus far. As so I'm wondering how much

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Speaker 1: you're key did on your offense versus their defense as

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Speaker 1: you're trying to put the game plan together. It's a

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Speaker 1: combination of both. You know, you certainly have to take

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Speaker 1: into account where you're at as a as a unit,

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Speaker 1: what you do well, where you want to try to

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Speaker 1: improve and progress, and try to do as many things

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Speaker 1: as you can to put your players in a position

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Speaker 1: to be successful doing things that they're comfortable doing and

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Speaker 1: they do well. At the same time, I think you

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Speaker 1: always have to consider the defenses personnel, the defense's personality,

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Speaker 1: the play caller. I've I've coached against Dennis a number

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Speaker 1: of times. He's an aggressive coach. They are very very

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Speaker 1: well they're they're they're totally attached at all three levels there.

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Speaker 1: They have good communication. They rarely make a mistake. They

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Speaker 1: challenge you up front, they challenge you with different coverage disguises.

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Speaker 1: They play zone, they play man, They're mixing in their

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Speaker 1: pressures throughout the game. They have a very difficult third

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Speaker 1: down package. So there's a lot of things I think

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Speaker 1: you have to consider when you're getting ready for an opponent.

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Speaker 1: You start with your own team, and then you factor

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Speaker 1: in their scheme, their personnel, the problems that they present

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Speaker 1: to you, and then you try to figure out the

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Speaker 1: best way to approach the game plan on a day

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Speaker 1: to day basis. So right now we're working on first

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Speaker 1: and second down and hopefully we can put together a

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Speaker 1: good plan and then we'll move on to the other

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Speaker 1: downs and situations in the game as we move through

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Speaker 1: the week. Thanks for Josh. Trod Mao will be next.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys,