1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Let's continue the conversation about hal Steinberner's comments with Ken 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Rosenthal right now, Ken, what did you take from what 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: House said, including the always ever so popular oh no, 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: we're not that rich off this team comment? 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: I had a three word reaction, open the books. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: No team is going to do that, except the Braves, 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: who are publicly traded. But when an owner makes such 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: a claim, and it's not only how who does that, 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: then the obvious question is, Okay, show us, prove it 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: to us, let us see what you are talking about, 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: and that never happens. Why does it never happen? Perhaps 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: because what the owner is saying cannot be reflected by 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: actual accounting practices. Now, even if the Yankees are spending 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: a ton of money, and they are spending a ton 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: of money on things besides major league pay, well we 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: all understand that. But there is the money they're taking 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: in not just from the ball club, but from the 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: Yes Network and from other properties that are related. 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: To the Yankees. 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Then there is the potential resale values. So when owners 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: cry poor, if you're a thinking fan, I can't imagine 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: you would buy that without some evidence of it. And 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: we never get to see any evidence of any of this. 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: All we hear is the poor mouthing. 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: Do you think how is really just saying what the 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: other owners, the other minority owners that are not forward facing, 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: like hal is what they're saying. And he's going to 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: the public and being like, well, you know, guys, it's 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 4: not that great. 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: That's possible. Eric. I don't know the inner workings of 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: the Yankees ownership hierarchy, but if that's the case, put 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: on a better face publicly and don't say just parrot 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: what these guys are telling you and complaining about. You 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: have to understand as the owner of the Yankees, and 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: we all do respect that he does talk to the 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: media when so many other owners don't. But when you're 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: the owner of the Yankees and you say the things 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: you do again, you cannot expect people to simply take 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: that at face value. I'm sorry, there's no reason to 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: take it into face value unless we see some actual 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: evidence that what he is saying is happening is happening now, 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: even if and I don't believe this to be the case, 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: but even if the Yankees are operating at a loss 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: each year based strictly on revenues from the team and payroll, 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: going out and other operating expenses. You still have all 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: the other things I was talking about, the ancillary properties, 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: the potential retale value. And I know the owners always say, 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: and people from baseball always say, well, you don't run 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: your personal budget on the potential resale value of your house. 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 3: That's true, the average person doesn't. The average person also 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: isn't sitting on a multi billion dollar property. 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you also don't win a ring from your 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: World series legendary history from your house either, So not 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: a not compare for me. But have you heard how 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: recently because I know he said it a few years ago, 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: but recently said say anything about not wanting to go 57 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: over that CBT because he doesn't want to keep giving 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: more money to the teams that aren't trying. 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: He hasn't said it quite like that. And like any team, 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: they do not want to go over the CBT repeatedly, 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: because of course, the penalties only increase to lose draft picks. 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: All of these things that come into place, and you 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: can understand that a team that resets often is doing 64 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: it in a very wise way to reset all the 65 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: penalties and kind of start over with the CBT. But 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: do the Yankees like giving money to teams like the Pirates, 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: the Marlins, other teams that don't necessarily reinvest it into 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: their payroll. I would think the Yankees do not like that. Now, 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: he's not going to say that publicly. One owner is 70 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: not going to rip another, particularly now as we get 71 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: closer to labor negotiations. But that is and has been 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: historically in this sport friction ever since revenue sharing came 73 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: into play. The big market small market thing is there. 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: It's always going to be there. The owners would like 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: to believe that if you put in a cap and 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: a floor system that it would solve the problem. As 77 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: I've said before, I'm not convinced of that. To me, 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: the current system can be tweaked to ensure that the 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: money is better spent and that perhaps those teams get 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: even more money and more draft picks, whatever it would 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: take to make them more competitive, not even the playing 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: field necessarily. You can't do that, not in this sport, 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: which is driven by local revenue, but to make it 84 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: more balanced. 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, mine's more of a hypothetical. Can if George was 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 5: still running the team, and George was still alive, how 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 5: much do you think he would enjoy kind of competing 88 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: with what the Dodgers are doing right now from a 89 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 5: payroll perspective, and. 90 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 3: He would definitely enjoy it. Kevin, Now, it's an unfair 91 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: question in many ways, because he's not alive. Obviously, times 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: have changed. The money is greater than even it was 93 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: when he was on, even in a relative sense. But 94 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: hal Steinbrenner, perhaps because of what Eric was saying before 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: the obligation to other owners in his group, has a 96 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: different approach than George did, and that's fine. George, in 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: many ways was not a great owner. He bullied people, 98 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: he treated people badly, he was suspended. They're all kinds 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: of things happened when George was owner that a lot 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: of fans sometimes seem to forget things that weren't very pleasant. 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: But his desire to win was more insatiable than how 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: I don't know that there's any question about that. 103 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: If you are still carrying a clunky, leather brick that 104 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: can be mistaken for an old school wallet, may I 105 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: introduce you to what Eric Kratz is getting himself for 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: the holidays. 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the greatest wallet that I've ever 108 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: seen in my life. Your credit card's fitting here. It's 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: a justable lifetime guaranteed like what like? This is a 110 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: must have for the holidays. 111 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Absolute must have Ridge Olive matt That is the design 112 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: that Kratz has right now, and you can get a 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: hold of that. There's over fifty plus colors and styles 114 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: to choose from. 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 2: Over at Ridge. 116 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: You can even get a wallet that features every NFL, 117 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: MLB or college team. And for a limited time, Ridge 118 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: is having their huge Black Friday sale. Head to Ridge 119 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: dot com slash foul to get up to forty seven 120 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: percent off your order. This is by far the biggest 121 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: discount they've given all year. That's Ridge dot com slash 122 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: foul for up to forty seven percent off your order 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: during their biggest sale of the year. After your purchase, 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: I'll ask you where you heard about Ridge. Tell them 125 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: Foul Territory sent you. I'm going to get last line 126 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: on this one. Just to something you said a few 127 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: minutes ago, most people selling their houses aren't getting dividends 128 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: on their house while they own it, unless they're running 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: some type of business out of their homes. So the 130 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: comparison for me is laughable. But we'll see what happens 131 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: with George and or excuse me with hol and with 132 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: the Yankees this offseason. Now let's get to the Red Sox, 133 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: the team of the day for acquiring Sonny Gray, and 134 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: very interesting how high and Bloom is now running the 135 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals and making a deal with the team that he 136 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: used to run. 137 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: What do you think of this trade? 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 3: This was quite interesting and really it's the second big 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: surprise of the week. Simeon for Nimo was one. This 140 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: one is another because my expectation from the Red Sox 141 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: was that they were going to go to a guy 142 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: they believe would slot in with some certainty as a 143 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: number two starter in a postseason series behind Garrett Crochet. 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm not sure Sonny Gray, at thirty six years old, 145 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: is that anymore. Now, Sonny Gray has some things to 146 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: definitely recommend him. Strikeout to walk rate last year fourth 147 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: best in the major leagues. You see the numbers right there. 148 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: Schoobl was best. Crochet of the Red Sox next Wu 149 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: and then Sonny Gray even ahead of Paul Skeens two 150 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: hundred and one strikeouts. Second straight two hundred strikeout campaign 151 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: for Gray. The Red Sox obviously of the swing and 152 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: miss he threw one hundred and eighty innings. I don't 153 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: know that he's an ace or even a number two anymore, 154 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: but he's still a quality major league pitcher. You run 155 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: the risk of the age coming into play in his 156 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: age thirty six season, but certainly he has not showed 157 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: signs of slowing down yet and he keeps himself in 158 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: excellent shape. That all said, I thought the Cardinals did well. 159 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: They did well to get Richard Fitz who's a major 160 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: league pitcher, and Clark, who is one of the Red 161 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: Sox or had been one of the Red Sox top prospects. 162 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: They send the Red Sox twenty million of the forty 163 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: one million that Gray is owed with his restructured contract, 164 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: so the Red Sox obligation will be twenty one million. 165 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: That's a reasonable number on a one year deal for sure. 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: But the Cardinals get players, they get financial relief, and 167 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: because this deal was front loaded Gray's three years, seventy 168 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: five million dollar deal, they got the value out of 169 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: Gray in those first two years and now the big 170 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: money has to go be paid by the Red Sox 171 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: in with the Cardinals. So I thought the Cardinals did well. 172 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure the Red Sox did well enough, but 173 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: maybe they see this differently. Maybe they say, you know what, 174 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: we're not give it one hundred and fifty million to 175 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 3: Dylan Ce's or fromber Valdez or range of Swarz or 176 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: am I no, let's do one year with Sonny Gray, 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: do some other things to upgrade offensively, maybe get another 178 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: lesser starter as well. I don't know what they're thinking exactly, 179 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: but it was an interesting choice to me, the one 180 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: that they made. 181 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: Can you glean anything else from it? Because you kind 182 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: of just hit on it. Breslo said, Hey, we want 183 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: to get that one. A. We're not looking at threes, 184 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: fours and fives, but they're spending the exact same, essentially, 185 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: the exact same money that they spent on Walker Bueller. 186 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: So can we glean the fact that unless there's a 187 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: free agent out there that is in the Sonny Gray 188 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: category and will accept twenty or less million a year, 189 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: the Red Sox are done hunting for pictures. 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: I never want to rule anything out, Eric, because at 191 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: this time, he ye, things happen that you don't expect. 192 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: We've seen that already this offseason, and it's still early, 193 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: and we've seen surprises. But it doesn't seem to me 194 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: that that's the direction they want to go. They've got 195 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: other options to remember, They've got the two kids coming 196 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: back totally and early that were so good last year 197 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: for them. They've got Brian Beao, They've got Crochet of course, 198 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: they have a number of different options, and maybe even 199 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: Patrick Sandoval comes into play this year. So I don't 200 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: know that they're done. I can see this being their 201 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: big pitching move and then investing the rest in offense, 202 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: but it's hard to know for sure what they're thinking. 203 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 4: All Right, can we roll out JT Real Muto to 204 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: the Red Sox? Can we can? I mean, it's hard 205 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: for me to see it, especially with the fact that 206 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: you're probably looking at fifteen million a year and it 207 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: would be kind of a platoon slash Narvaias and Real 208 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: Muto roll Can we roll that out? Even though we 209 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: just saw it was just written that there's interest the 210 00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 4: old interest work. 211 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wrote it, And I don't write stories about 212 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: teams being interested in players lightly, because as the story mentions, 213 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: every team is interested in every player for the most 214 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: part at this time of year. But I heard this 215 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: yesterday from a couple of different places. Now I didn't 216 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: hear it strong enough to think that it's likely or 217 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: anything like that. But I thought it was interesting because JT. 218 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: Real Muto, who is going to be entering his age 219 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: thirty five season, is a fit for the Red Sox 220 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: in a certain respect. If you pair him with Nevius, 221 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: who did struggle at the end of last year, albeit 222 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: with a knee injury. You pair him with Nevvias, you 223 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: dhm as well, and you resign Alex Bregman or another bat. 224 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: Maybe it's Pete Alonzo. 225 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: That's two bats instead of one, and it just gives 226 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: you a little bit more oomph. Now, JT. Real Muto 227 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: is still one of the most athletic, if not the 228 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: most athletic catchers in the game. He's a guy that 229 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: any team would want. Now, is this the Red Sox 230 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: top priority. No, I don't believe it is. But could 231 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: it be something that develops in a certain scenario. I 232 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: don't see why not. He's a right handed bat. They 233 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: need that, he's a leader, they need that, and he 234 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: is still a highly regarded catcher. But when you look 235 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: at his market, of course, the expectation within the industry 236 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: and my expectation as well, is that when we signed 237 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: with the Philadelphia Phillies. One of the points of writing 238 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: something like this, and we listed some other teams as well, 239 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: is to show that it's not just the Phillies. It's 240 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: never just one team looking at these guys, and teams 241 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: will make mistakes, in my opinion, when they think, ah, 242 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: he has no market, we're good. It's too often a 243 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: free agency you can get blindsided when you think that way. 244 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: Do I think this is likely with real Moto to Boston. No, 245 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: but it's certainly as interesting to me that it would 246 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: at least be a possibility for them in the many, 247 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: many possibilities that they are considering. 248 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned two names. I want to ask you 249 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: Bregman Alonzo, which is a better fit. To me, Bregman 250 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: kind of going to Boston just kind of screams perfect 251 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 5: fit for Boston. I know they have some young internal 252 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 5: candidates that could play third base, but I feel like 253 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: Bregman was the exact guy that that team needed. 254 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: I agree with that, Kevin, and to me, Bregman is 255 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 3: a difference maker in so many ways. Obviously the bat, 256 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: that's one thing, the defense really good that's another thing. 257 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: And also that intangible that he brings to a team. 258 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: And we've seen it now and we've seen it documented. 259 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: He helps other players improve, he makes suggestions even to pitchers, 260 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: and he is a total difference maker in the clubhouse. Now, 261 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: that's not why you sign a guy. If he's not 262 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: a good enough player, you don't. But Bregman, to me, 263 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: is still the best fit. I know They've got Meyer 264 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: and they want to find a position for him, but 265 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: you put Bregman in third base, you worry about the 266 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: rest later. He's a better fit than Alonzo for me 267 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: one because of the defensive ability too, because you have 268 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: Tristan Cassis. First base is an easier position to fill 269 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: long term if. 270 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: Cassis is not the answer. 271 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: So while Anzo would be a good fit as well 272 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: if they lost Bregman, Bregmant to me still is the 273 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: guy that they should be targeting first and foremost, and 274 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: I expect that they will all right. 275 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: Now that Sonny Gray's gone Aeronato and Wilson Contreras. Is 276 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: it more likely less likely because of how much the 277 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: money was taken, or is this agenda number one and 278 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: two to get possibly get rid of Wilson Contreras and 279 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: Aeronauta Arnatto. 280 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: For sure, he's gonna go in my expectation Wilson Contreras 281 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: is a little bit different. He has said he wants 282 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: to stay. Now will he want to stay once they 283 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: start trading not only those guys, but Brendan Donovan and 284 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: potentially Laura's nutbar Nolan Gorman. That's a different question, and 285 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: maybe at that point Wilson Contrera says, you know what 286 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: it can go to. It's kind of the same logic, 287 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: different circumstance, but we've written this. Dan Hayes of The 288 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: Athletic has that if the Twins keep taking it apart, 289 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: if they trade Joe, Ryan, Trey, Pablo Lopez, then Byron 290 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: Buckston would say, what am I doing here? 291 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: I can get traded too. 292 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: I'll be waiving my no trade clause if you find 293 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: the right fit. I expect that if the Cardinals completely 294 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: tear it up, as it appears they will do to 295 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: a certain extent, then maybe Contreras reconsiders. 296 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: And for all of you that had questions, we didn't 297 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: get to good news. Fair Territory is happening tomorrow before 298 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: the holiday, so you'll get more from Ken there. Who's 299 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: going to get back to work. It's a busy day, Ken, 300 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Thanks guys again Fair 301 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Territory for you. Grill and Ken is a big part 302 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: of the second show of the week for Fair Territory. 303 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: So if you have questions twelve thirty Eastern time Again 304 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: twelve thirty Eastern time on Wednesday you can catch Alana 305 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: and Ken. They will be filling up Grill and Ken 306 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: if you have those live questions to ask about this 307 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: current trade and whatever else happens over the next twenty 308 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: four hours. 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Gallon Giolito, Merril, 339 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: Kelly Kpu faced these guys and I'm going to start 340 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: this segment off with a bang. I completely disagree with 341 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: the order that ended up this way and this quote. 342 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: I think we'll say it all. Number three ranked Tatsuya 343 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: am I has this quote from one NL evaluator. He's 344 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: not a real physical guy, but he's a super athlete. 345 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he has quite the stuff Yamamoto has, 346 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: but it's in the same ballpark. 347 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: Uh, Number one for me? 348 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if there's even a comp to Yamamoto, 349 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 5: he has to be one on that list. I mean 350 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 5: I don't know much about him. I haven't seen him pitch. 351 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: But if someone that's been there overseas in Japan and 352 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: has Washington pitch and can even you know, feel comfortable 353 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: putting that out out of their mouth that he is 354 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 5: a close to Yamamoto, he has to be number one 355 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 5: on your list. Because Yamamoto finally had his coming out 356 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 5: party last year and year two, and you know he's 357 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: in that a handful of best pitchers in baseball. So 358 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: if that guy's even remotely close to him, he's got 359 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 5: to be number one on this list. 360 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 361 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: There's just too much inconsistencies and questions about about Cease 362 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: and Framber ahead of him. If this is the evaluation, 363 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 4: I don't I don't have obviously don't have the evaluations. 364 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: I think the thing with Cese is he's gonna be 365 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: he's gonna make his starts thirty two starts. I think 366 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: in five consecutive years, five straight years strikeouts, the strike 367 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 4: asks for nine are just tremendous for Sease, I think 368 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: it's an under I think everyone sees the numbers of 369 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 4: him giving up too many runs and I think there's 370 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 4: a negative there. But I think the the values on 371 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 4: the mound for him, same with Framberg makes his starts. 372 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: But if Ami can be what they're saying he is, 373 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: and it's always a question in Japan that transition over here, 374 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: but he can he strikes dudes out more than one 375 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 4: per nine. I I think Amaia's got to be number one. 376 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you could be looking at nobody getting more 377 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: than him. Let's put it that way. 378 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: Hey, there's a guy on this list. Though to Scott, 379 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: you may have, you may have the quote, but I 380 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 5: think talking about Ranger Schwarz being boring to me facing 381 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 5: a lot of these guys, he was one of the 382 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 5: more difficult guys to face. He's not overpowering, you're not 383 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: intimidating getting to him. And Kratzy knows this term that 384 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: we use. It's a comfortable for four. But his ability 385 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: to pitch and change speeds and locate. He's an absolute 386 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 5: nightmare to face. 387 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: So how would you guys rank Maybe because. 388 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 5: Because maybe because he doesn't get big strikeout numbers, but 389 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 5: he gets a ton of weak contact. It's not sexy, 390 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 5: but this guy takes the ball. He's gonna go deep 391 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 5: in games. He can be very efficient. Yeah, I mean 392 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: I would have to like I would. I'd like to 393 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: hear Cratzy's list first. Obviously for me, someone that hasn't 394 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 5: pitched in the big leagues coming from Japan, I know 395 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 5: we've seen pitchers come over and be successful. I always 396 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 5: get a little hesitant until I see him pitch in 397 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: the big leagues. So my rankings may be a little 398 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: bit different. But if Cratsey wants to go, I'll follow. 399 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 4: I won't even put Amye on the list, just just 400 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: for the guys that played in the big leagues last year. 401 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 4: To me, I go, I go Dylan Cees because there's 402 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: a scarier upside if he was if he was left handed, 403 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: I think it would be a slam dunk. But I 404 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: like Rain, I like Ranger over Framber. I know that 405 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 4: sounds crazy, but I'm gonna save some of my money 406 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna get a guy who I get it. 407 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: He might not make, he might not make twenty five 408 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 4: starts on the year. But I think there's plenty of 409 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: teams that have the money to put out there. The 410 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: starts that you're gonna get, I think are going to 411 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 4: give you. You're gonna get more bang for your buck. I'm 412 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: just fearful of fearful of some of the things that 413 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: I saw from Framber. But that is it's really against 414 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: my it's really against my code to pick somebody who 415 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: makes who makes twenty two to twenty five starts a 416 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: year over somebody who who makes all thirty two of 417 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: his starts. And I feel like Framber does that, and 418 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: Dylan Ceese does that, and I actually have Dylan Cease 419 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: above because I think somebody can get with him and 420 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 4: figure this out. 421 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: And Framber third, So you have Ranger Cease. 422 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: No Framber, Ranger rain Cease, Ranger, Framber, And who I 423 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: would want who the best is that's that's that's the 424 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: line that I would want. That's who I would want 425 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: in that way. 426 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: Wait, hold up, hold up, So this is free agent list. 427 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: If let's say money is the same for all of 428 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: these guys who do you want. 429 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: So ranked ranked one through four. 430 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: Of these guys one through four of who you would 431 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: want that. That's the exercise that I'm asking here, one 432 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: through four, who do you want on your team? On 433 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: a five year contract? They're all getting about the same money. 434 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: For me, am I as first. 435 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: What about you? 436 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: If they're getting all the same money one hundred percent, 437 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: I'm going to my first Okay, then I'm going. Then 438 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 4: I'm going framber I mean, I think I think they 439 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: have the list. I think they have the list, and 440 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: now I got to pull the list back up, but 441 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: I think. 442 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: They have framber cees my ranger. 443 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: And the problem I have is that many of the 444 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: scouts were like, oh, I could change this list each day, 445 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I can rank this list. 446 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 5: I think there's one I think there's one name we're 447 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 5: missing on that list too, And I think arguably he 448 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 5: has the best stuff, and I think that's Michael King. 449 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: I think there's injury history, recentcy bias with him, but 450 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: when you I've only faced him one time, but the 451 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 5: stuff I see on TV, it looks like he's playing 452 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 5: withootball with this stuff, and I think he was showing 453 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 5: the world the type of Pitcher he was before he 454 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 5: got hurt. I mean, I would make a case that 455 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: he could be even number one on my list. 456 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: I need you guys to rank it though, whether it's 457 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: one through four, one through five. If you want to 458 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: include King Kratz first, then KP will follow to finish. 459 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: This, because it's all everyone's getting to save money. Then 460 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, am I Framber Ranger sees my list? 461 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: The original list was because of was because I'm paying 462 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 4: less for Ranger. Rangers is not going to get as much. 463 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 4: But that's why I liked him. That's why I had 464 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: him higher. 465 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: But okay, that's fine, that makes sense. 466 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are two different spears here, because you do 467 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: have to factor in money when you're talking about real life. 468 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: This article was just trying to rank the pictures in 469 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: terms of who's best to who's not as good, right 470 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: one through four or one through five. And that's where 471 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: I had the issue with am I getting slighted based 472 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: on a recent track record of a picture of his 473 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: ilk coming over from Japan. 474 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: KP. 475 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna keep the same list. I'm just gonna 476 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 5: slide Michael King in the third spot there because I 477 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 5: just think his his stuff is so good and the 478 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 5: upside is so great with him, I'd slide him in 479 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 5: in front of Ranger. 480 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: So lay it out for me. 481 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: Who's one Amaya? 482 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 5: Wait? Is Amaya? What's his name? 483 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 484 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, Maya Maldas King. Ranger sees